Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, we're brown. Well well, ambition, ambition.
Speaker 2: Ambition shut Hey.
Speaker 1: Me and Mandy are both sporting high ponies because it
Speaker 1: just is what it.
Speaker 3: Is, because it's been one hundred eleven degrees lately and
Speaker 3: this is the only hairstyle that will do. That is
Speaker 3: my story of you and that I love you pretty
Speaker 3: and pink ah girl.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, there is this line. This
Speaker 1: is not an ad or anything, but like one of
Speaker 1: my friends, the Cole Walters, he's like one of my
Speaker 1: faforite social media friends. She was wearing like this little
Speaker 1: sweat outfit and I was like, Sis, this looks like
Speaker 1: that could go from bed too around the house to
Speaker 1: the grocery store to like, and so it was super
Speaker 1: cute because they're like kind of the pants are kind
Speaker 1: of crop, you know, it gets a little booty lifted.
Speaker 1: All the things are cute and so I'm like, where'd
Speaker 1: you get this from? She was like Amazon. They're called Jessica.
Speaker 1: It's not a name burner or anything like that, but
Speaker 1: they're loungewear. But they're so cute. So I brought every
Speaker 1: single color available. Girl, I got pink. I have coral,
Speaker 1: I have blue, I have green, I've got yellow. But
Speaker 1: I tell you, I know people are just so sick
Speaker 1: of me, Like if she don't did she go with that?
Speaker 1: Zessica again, I am honestly, I love it my family.
Speaker 3: It's like one of those randoms brands you see in
Speaker 3: like this shopping mall. Yeah, right right next to like
Speaker 3: hot topic.
Speaker 1: But surprisingly, Like I was like, isn't gonna be good quality?
Speaker 1: She was like, honestly, really, and it is. It's like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't suggest it for like middle of the summer
Speaker 1: because they're actually pretty thick, but yeah, the quality is
Speaker 1: great and it just feels so comfy on and so
Speaker 1: it's cause I was like, I really don't want to
Speaker 1: look super bummy at home because I think I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I do have a husband, and so I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: how do I be comfortable at home and not look crazy?
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to wearst the lettos. This is not the sixties. Not
Speaker 1: the sixties. What was that the fifties where women were
Speaker 1: heels at home?
Speaker 2: The Destiny of your Child era, you know, but you.
Speaker 1: Know any one of them does and would come home
Speaker 1: and you would have a red lip on with your
Speaker 1: with your mules. I'm like, am I trying to live
Speaker 1: that life? So I'm a Zachica and Superman is happy
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 3: Man, whenever I want to look sexy, I just uh,
Speaker 3: I get the garden hose. And I asked Baye if
Speaker 3: he wants to wash the TESTI that's what I that's
Speaker 3: how that way get that gets him in the mood.
Speaker 3: He's like, yes, please, let's clean the car.
Speaker 1: What is about many cleaning cars? They love doing that.
Speaker 3: When I tell you the number of times this man
Speaker 3: cleans that car, he probably washes the car more often
Speaker 3: than he bathes. Now, I don't want to go viral
Speaker 3: like Ashton Kutcher amilakunis like we do shower here, okay,
Speaker 3: But I will tell you that that car and even
Speaker 3: Rio's little play cars, they get more TLC than any
Speaker 3: other human or thing in this household.
Speaker 2: And he it's like stress relief for.
Speaker 3: Him or or just you know, it's like his meditative practice.
Speaker 3: It's fine, it's fine. There's way worse things he could
Speaker 3: be doing.
Speaker 1: I get right, been lossing the car, girl, please, but he, he.
Speaker 2: And Rio need their own IM.
Speaker 3: I'm manifesting, and I keep telling him like we need
Speaker 3: y'all need their own they need their own YouTube channel
Speaker 3: or TikTok channel where it's just him and Rio doing
Speaker 3: doing like home improvement projects. Because every time Enrique, every
Speaker 3: time he's doing something, whether it's you know, especially if
Speaker 3: it's putting together furniture, Rio is right there. He knows
Speaker 3: how to use the little Alan wrenches, he knows where
Speaker 3: the screws go. He loves taking things apart. And I'm
Speaker 3: just like, this is great cute content. You know, He's like,
Speaker 3: shut up and go do your TikTok dances.
Speaker 1: So, speaking of TikTok, I have decide say now that
Speaker 1: doesn't last long, don't don't get too happy. Now here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I said, you know what, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be doing no dances. I'm not gonna be doing none.
Speaker 1: So I decided that, you know what, I Am going
Speaker 1: to challenge myself to post something for the next thirty
Speaker 1: days every day and so but it's not I mean,
Speaker 1: no tick, no music, no nothing. Literally I pressed the
Speaker 1: button and I decided, you know what, what's gonna be
Speaker 1: easy to do thirty day street? I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna tell the step by step story of
Speaker 1: how I legit became a millionaire. I'm shying the dances
Speaker 1: you're already you're not doing. Literally, I woke up this morning.
Speaker 1: I told I promised myself. I said, tivity, you're gonna
Speaker 1: start TikTok today. I literally still had my you know
Speaker 1: how you have your bedbun where you're like, this is
Speaker 1: where how I were my head to sleep here to sleep.
Speaker 1: I still have my bedgun on in my target night
Speaker 1: dress on. And I was like, hey, I'm not coming
Speaker 1: to UQ. I made myself a promise. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: trying to keep it. Let's talk about how I became
Speaker 1: a millionaire. Whatevs. You know. So I just like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna post the videos I told myself. I'm not,
Speaker 1: you know, like but hona say. I just feel like
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever told the story from
Speaker 1: beginning to end, because it's really only been like the
Speaker 1: last four years. I'm I guess on paper, maybe I
Speaker 1: was a millionaire by maybe thirty five, thirty six, maybe
Speaker 1: because I never had the company evaluated. But I'm talking
Speaker 1: about like an actual I won't say actual because you know,
Speaker 1: but if I had to look at my actual money
Speaker 1: investments like capital liquid millionaire, it was by thirty seven
Speaker 1: that was able to look and say, oh, look there's
Speaker 1: a million, and then by thirty eight more and more
Speaker 1: and more, and now I'm forty one. So by thirty
Speaker 1: seven I became like a there are seven figures I
Speaker 1: can visibly see, excluding homes and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, and other assets. So I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I never really told that story because that happened at
Speaker 1: thirty seven, but by thirty three I was still broke.
Speaker 1: So what happened in kind of like that four years
Speaker 1: and what led up to it? I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna literally, I'm just gonna do it one
Speaker 1: minute clips until the story is done, and then you know,
Speaker 1: if I like it, maybe I'll say I thought.
Speaker 3: You said that you didn't want Penguin to come talk
Speaker 3: to you anymore about Boo. I thought that you said
Speaker 3: that wasn't what you wanted. Anyway. I'm so excited because
Speaker 3: first of all, it's kind of like I want more.
Speaker 3: I just want more familiar faces on TikTok, just more friends.
Speaker 3: It's nice, like I want Sandy Smith on I think
Speaker 3: Kevin backfielding bread he would be hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is hilarious.
Speaker 2: He has so many hot takes.
Speaker 3: But uh no, I mean TikTok is great because I
Speaker 3: feel like you can be your full authentic self and
Speaker 3: I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Let's play.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. You don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2: You're like, there isn't a filter and I'm sitting there
Speaker 2: like it's right there.
Speaker 3: You have hundreds of filters tipping.
Speaker 1: Get this like exactly how baby, I'm like, hey, it's me,
Speaker 1: I'm at the park, I'm sweaty, so let me finish
Speaker 1: the story. So literally, yes, if you are on TI
Speaker 1: what is your name on TikTok?
Speaker 3: Mandy Mandy Money with three a's really so m A
Speaker 3: A A N D I Money Okay literally because I
Speaker 3: panicked because Mandy Money was already taken and hasn't posted,
Speaker 3: but like two things and I was like.
Speaker 1: So, my obviously is a budgete. So that's one thing
Speaker 1: I did do on TikTok when it was actually musically,
Speaker 1: I grabbed the budget Lisa and that a TikTok. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have smart So I tried to not going to catch.
Speaker 3: Tiffany without a domain or a social media handling call.
Speaker 1: So, because what I try to do is any type
Speaker 1: of new thing that comes out, I go and grab
Speaker 1: the Budgetista, even if I'm like, I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: going to be on here, but I'm like, but what
Speaker 1: I won't have you is on here be smirching. The
Speaker 1: budget lista brand, So I just grab it to keep it.
Speaker 1: So if you guys want to follow along and learn
Speaker 1: literally how did I become a millionaire? Especially how like
Speaker 1: with having such hard times and then like you know,
Speaker 1: and then four years, you know, turning it around, like
Speaker 1: what happened? Come follow? You know you can comment or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 3: You know, I found on my videos that I've been
Speaker 3: posting a lot about the power of quitting your job,
Speaker 3: a lot about how I'm on my path to having
Speaker 3: a million dollar net worth. And it's been It's happened
Speaker 3: a few times now where someone's commented and they're all obsessed.
Speaker 2: Like what do you do for work? What do you
Speaker 2: do for work? What was your job?
Speaker 3: And I'm like journalism and marketing, And then one persons
Speaker 3: bond and he said, well, this could never be true
Speaker 3: for teachers. You know, we hardly make any money as
Speaker 3: it is, and if you want to get paid more,
Speaker 3: it's really expensive degrees that stand in your way. And
Speaker 3: I hear that, but I also am like Tiffany was
Speaker 3: a preschool teacher. Yeah, like what you're talking about, I mean,
Speaker 3: that's a defeatist attitude, it is.
Speaker 2: I yes, of course.
Speaker 3: The point is, like Tiffany, you didn't become a bajillionaire
Speaker 3: by continuing to teach preschool, but you know, you'd harness
Speaker 3: those skills in those teaching you know tea and you
Speaker 3: teach yes exactly, and I think you it's about like
Speaker 3: you broadened the concept of what teaching could look like exactly,
Speaker 3: and you you made it almost like no one could
Speaker 3: ever think that a teacher could you know, reach the
Speaker 3: heights that you've reached, But you envision that for yourself
Speaker 3: and you created it, and I think that is what
Speaker 3: separates some people.
Speaker 2: You really have to unlearn this.
Speaker 3: Idea, the box that you you put yourself in and
Speaker 3: like society puts you in as well.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's true, like it I mean, and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pretend like it's not hard to do so.
Speaker 1: But one of the things, like you know, one of
Speaker 1: my goals for the last like since I came back
Speaker 1: for my six weeks, really has been to expand my capacity.
Speaker 1: You know. It's almost like I had just done actually,
Speaker 1: like so on my on my ig feed, I've got
Speaker 1: you know, I do this thing called the budget needs
Speaker 1: to break down and that's like the most recent breakdown
Speaker 1: video on my ig. It's like, expand your capacity. So
Speaker 1: how do you So It's almost like you have this cup,
Speaker 1: and this cup can hold eight ounces, and that is
Speaker 1: the way you're thinking now, but you want to be
Speaker 1: able to hold sixteen ounces. Well it can't be the
Speaker 1: same cup because that cup is not going to hold
Speaker 1: more than eight. So unless you expand your capacity, get
Speaker 1: a new cup, you know, and introduce new ideas, new ways,
Speaker 1: new ways of thinking and navigating things, you will always
Speaker 1: only hold up to eight ounces. And so that's really
Speaker 1: the key. And it's it's all it's hard word, you
Speaker 1: know because even me, so despite the fact that we
Speaker 1: hit ten million dollars last year, I still think I
Speaker 1: think too small, you know what I mean, because like
Speaker 1: I still feel like I have not widened, you know,
Speaker 1: my capacity for thinking beyond where I am now. Because
Speaker 1: I will talk to someone else and I'm just like, wow,
Speaker 1: I never thought about it that way, and I'm enjoying that.
Speaker 1: So I'm actually spending so much time now. I have
Speaker 1: shifted what I thought I should be as a CEO
Speaker 1: to something different. So in the beginning it was a
Speaker 1: lot more hands on because I had to be like,
Speaker 1: what's this, what's that? What about this? What about that?
Speaker 1: You know, like no, no, no, like this like that.
Speaker 1: So but I have grown the team enough and the
Speaker 1: six weeks away has taught me to trust them enough
Speaker 1: that they got it and I just kind of come
Speaker 1: in and make some changes. So my role as a
Speaker 1: CEO is to remove blockages and challenges. So let's just say,
Speaker 1: you know, the content team has been trying to reach
Speaker 1: out to somebody they want to partner with and the
Speaker 1: person's not responding. I'll just make a phone call. I'm
Speaker 1: been like, says, pick up your phone, you know. So
Speaker 1: I removed challenges. I set vision, you know, like here's
Speaker 1: the north star what we're headed toward. I also am
Speaker 1: in charge of company culture, you know, because it really
Speaker 1: does kind of trickle down from the top. But also
Speaker 1: something that I've incurred is that, like, to me as
Speaker 1: a really good, CEO. I have to be an amazing student.
Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of studying Mandy, a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had been watching so many YouTube videos
Speaker 1: about creating, about investing, about anything I can think of,
Speaker 1: any kind of interest. I have read so many books.
Speaker 1: I just finished one Atomic Habits today, and I have
Speaker 1: I'm going to read Trevor Noah's Border Crime. I've been
Speaker 1: listening to so many podcasts.
Speaker 3: Glad you're I'm glad you're getting some memoirs in there too.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, I love a good memory these days. But
Speaker 1: you know, like I just feel like that's one of
Speaker 1: the best ways to increase your capacity is you have
Speaker 1: to interject new ideas and new ways of thinking, and
Speaker 1: new people and you know, and just just new experiences
Speaker 1: into your life. So the gentleman who said, like, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: maybe a school teacher may not be able to you know,
Speaker 1: grow to you know, millions and millions of dollars, and
Speaker 1: even that I don't believe. But teaching, certainly, when if
Speaker 1: you can teach, do you understand how few people like
Speaker 1: what a what a highly monetizable skill set teaching is yo?
Speaker 1: If you can teach, you can like literally rule the world,
Speaker 1: and so like, I just challenge anyone who kind of
Speaker 1: feels like they're in a position or you know, or
Speaker 1: any sort of position, yeah that where they think that
Speaker 1: they're meant there what they can make is limited. I
Speaker 1: challenge you to be like, I don't that's not true.
Speaker 1: Let me find an example of that's where that's not true.
Speaker 1: And I'm an example where that's not true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really glad that I brought that up because
Speaker 3: I know I'm like Tiffany is proof positive of this.
Speaker 2: But I love that. And I think I think you only.
Speaker 3: Fail in life if you're if you think you have
Speaker 3: a figured out and if you think that you have
Speaker 3: nothing left to learn, and there's no right way to
Speaker 3: learn either, there's no right way to listen. You just
Speaker 3: kind of have to find the stories that you know
Speaker 3: or access people, either.
Speaker 2: One on one or it can be podcasts, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I personally listen to podcasts. I watch a lot
Speaker 3: of great documentaries and shows on TV, and I love
Speaker 3: I love fiction and I love memoirs and I love talking.
Speaker 2: To people about it. And it's not like there's any
Speaker 2: one right path.
Speaker 3: But it's like we're constantly students, and I think about
Speaker 3: Michelle Obama's memoir Becoming, and in the intro of the book,
Speaker 3: she talks about why she named it becoming, and she says,
Speaker 3: it's because we're always becoming, you know, the next version
Speaker 3: of ourselves, the next layer of ourselves. We're becoming that
Speaker 3: person every day. We're in a constant Nothing is finite,
Speaker 3: nothing is final. And I hope that Brown Ambition is
Speaker 3: a place where people feel like they can come and
Speaker 3: help there and help and we help them, you know,
Speaker 3: see a bigger vision of what their life can be
Speaker 3: as well. And that's what it feels like to me
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: And also to you know, what I've been learning, Like
Speaker 1: a lot of what I've been learning. I was just
Speaker 1: talking to a friend of mine who has an online school.
Speaker 1: She also hit ten million dollars last year and then
Speaker 1: this year, I think she hit ten million dollars in
Speaker 1: her online school. But then she also trades, and so
Speaker 1: she made ten million dollars in trading, so twenty million
Speaker 1: I believe, right. So anyway, we were talking about that
Speaker 1: and how she was sharing how she went to this
Speaker 1: conference where she sat on this panel with some of
Speaker 1: the largest names in the creator space, and she just
Speaker 1: knew that these huge names got to be making fifty
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars something crazy, and she found that
Speaker 1: on that panel, she was like, not only was she
Speaker 1: making more than most, Like almost everyone on that panel,
Speaker 1: they like, it's one thing to gross ten million, it's
Speaker 1: another thing to net. So the difference, y'all is gross
Speaker 1: is oh this is all we you know, you get
Speaker 1: the complete bag? Net is after I pay all these expenses,
Speaker 1: what's left over? And she said that, you know that
Speaker 1: there were people who maybe make eight or nine, but
Speaker 1: they were like, we're negative, We're not actually making any money.
Speaker 1: And she was so shocked because she just assumed I'm
Speaker 1: not famous, I'm not well known. You've got millions and followers,
Speaker 1: and you've got twenty million followers here, and you've got
Speaker 1: this big platform here, and you need to tell me
Speaker 1: you're in the negative. And she just couldn't believe because
Speaker 1: I was telling her like, oh, you know, I really
Speaker 1: got to do better. She was like, girl, no, you
Speaker 1: are a freaking unicorn, because I think the last time
Speaker 1: I checked, our our net was forty six percent or
Speaker 1: forty six percent profit, So that means of the ten
Speaker 1: you know, you get to keep four point six million,
Speaker 1: four point eight million, So that's high for kind of
Speaker 1: any company. And so that was just like such an
Speaker 1: eye opener of some You don't need to be as
Speaker 1: big as you think you need to be to be
Speaker 1: as successful as you like to be.
Speaker 2: It all depends on how you're measuring that success.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: And net is the keyword here. Net net net Yeah,
Speaker 3: networth net proceeds, net profit.
Speaker 2: That's where it's really at. That's where the truth.
Speaker 1: Is because you can have like a highly actionized, like
Speaker 1: a community of one hundred thousand that yield your business
Speaker 1: more than someone who has two million, three million followers
Speaker 1: and like nobody cares what they have to say, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. People just follow, but they're not
Speaker 1: really like they're not moved. And so like for me,
Speaker 1: like when I think of like my business girl crushes,
Speaker 1: one of them is Girl Trek. So if you guys
Speaker 1: are not familiar with Girl Track, girl Track is a
Speaker 1: black women's nonprofit and the premise of girl Trick is
Speaker 1: to get black women out walking treking, right, and so
Speaker 1: girl Trek without any ads, it's first I could see
Speaker 1: signed up like about one million women in about a
Speaker 1: year and a half a year year and a half
Speaker 1: to Girl Track. That's like incredible because you don't understand
Speaker 1: like everybody here, everybody spends so much money on ads
Speaker 1: for the most part. So I look at girl Track
Speaker 1: and if you like, if you I was just on
Speaker 1: TikTok to see this. Girl Trek have a TikTok. They
Speaker 1: do zero post. If you go to their Facebook, it's decent.
Speaker 1: But if you go to their Instagram, Okay, it's decent.
Speaker 1: But eh, they they don't send out a ten of
Speaker 1: emails because I'm on the Girl Trek email list, and
Speaker 1: yet they have been able to get this amazing this
Speaker 1: like a million women to move right. I remember they
Speaker 1: they did a partnership with like Oprah via WW they
Speaker 1: did a partnership I think with like Walmart and Target.
Speaker 1: And you're like, so sometimes you can get so sidetracked
Speaker 1: by like the flashy that you see that you're missing
Speaker 1: out on these real amazing lessons of like these diamonds.
Speaker 1: So to me, I don't look at another other stuff
Speaker 1: I'm looking at. So how does girl Trek do this?
Speaker 1: I know I know both Morgan and Vanessa Hork, founders
Speaker 1: of girl Trek, and that's another thing that I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed with Girl Trek is that it's Girl Trek, not
Speaker 1: Morgan and Vanessa. Like I would love to be able
Speaker 1: to like really in the next five years. I wanted
Speaker 1: to fall off as Tiffany. I want like the new
Speaker 1: financial people like oh remember the budget Nessa when she
Speaker 1: was oh, look at Tiffany, and I'm like, yes, I
Speaker 1: fell off. I fell off and you can't find me anywhere,
Speaker 1: and like the business is the phrase fronting thing and
Speaker 1: so like I just study like those types of brands.
Speaker 1: I think I think we're in danger these days of
Speaker 1: like kind of like giving all of our energy toward
Speaker 1: the things that look outwardly successful but inwardly are really not.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Amen, period.
Speaker 1: Paragraph.
Speaker 3: If there's one takeaway from this show, let that be it.
Speaker 3: What you see is not.
Speaker 2: The full picture.
Speaker 3: And that's why it's like you see it. Take it
Speaker 3: with a huge handful of salt.
Speaker 1: And then a handful of assault.
Speaker 2: Just salt.
Speaker 3: They all over it.
Speaker 2: That's just farse.
Speaker 3: I mean, I try to be so authentic on social
Speaker 3: media to the point where I have my screaming toddler
Speaker 3: sometimes on my tiktoks while I'm trying to do it
Speaker 3: because I'm like I need to do this TikTok and
Speaker 3: he's here, so this is what it's like to be
Speaker 3: a mom preneur. Meanwhile, he's like smacking my hands.
Speaker 1: I love it. I was like, that's why he was like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: I want to play just I try to do so much.
Speaker 2: Yes, you have to.
Speaker 3: We just need more pople authentic and sharing their journey.
Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely, And if you see people being successful,
Speaker 3: yay for you love to see it, but.
Speaker 2: You don't know the real real you don't.
Speaker 3: You only know what's happening in your own house, and
Speaker 3: that's where you have to focus. Yeah, So what do
Speaker 3: you think it is about those Let's drill into that
Speaker 3: a little bit because especially as you're looking at businesses
Speaker 3: that you see, you know, huge social media following, but
Speaker 3: is that a business model versus good business model? And
Speaker 3: maybe not so not such a huge focus on social media.
Speaker 3: What do you think it is about movements and businesses
Speaker 3: that separate those that maybe have you know one or
Speaker 3: the other.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that the difference between a huge social
Speaker 1: media following and someone that has a business that resonates
Speaker 1: you know, because you can have a huge social media
Speaker 1: following and a business that resonates. So for example, Tabitha Brown, right,
Speaker 1: her book hasn't even come out yet, it's already like
Speaker 1: top one hundred on Amazon. Her McCormick Seasoning sold out
Speaker 1: in like thirty minutes, right, So she has a you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what her business model is, but let's
Speaker 1: just you know, from the outside, successful business, huge following.
Speaker 1: People move as a result of Tapatha. But she has both.
Speaker 1: And then you might have someone like, for example, like
Speaker 1: a ray J. No shade to you, Brandy's brother, but
Speaker 1: he I've seen him post things and they'll say like
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's busted, like and no one, no
Speaker 1: one has purchased it, no one has moved, although he's
Speaker 1: got more than a million followers, right. And so the
Speaker 1: difference is trust. You watch Tapatha Brown, and based upon
Speaker 1: the things that she's sharing, you trust her, and so
Speaker 1: as a result, you move when she says to move.
Speaker 1: And so I look at ray J. Now I'm not
Speaker 1: saying no things, but if ray J is telling me
Speaker 1: about a bank account, I don't care. If ray J'
Speaker 1: is telling me maybe about a music app, I might
Speaker 1: because I'm like, okay, he comes from a musical family.
Speaker 1: And so that when you build trust with your audience,
Speaker 1: you don't need as much audience as you think, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, relatively speaking for most people, it
Speaker 1: might seem like I have this huge audience. But in
Speaker 1: the social media space now, these like five year olds
Speaker 1: have like five million you know followers doll but you know,
Speaker 1: literally an egg, an uncooked egg on Instagram has more following.
Speaker 1: But what I do have with my audience is trust,
Speaker 1: and especially in a space personal finance, where trust is
Speaker 1: not easily won or kept. And so as a result,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't need it's huge of an audience
Speaker 1: because of one I do have moves. So trust is
Speaker 1: built with consistency. Trust is built with do you say
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do, do you say what you know,
Speaker 1: do what you said, and did you do it when
Speaker 1: you said it. Trust is built with transparency. Trust is
Speaker 1: built with genuineness and care. And so that's really the difference.
Speaker 1: Like when you hear Tabitha Brown speak, you trust her
Speaker 1: because she seems real, you know, whereas there might be
Speaker 1: a brand that like you know, you follow for the
Speaker 1: for the giggles, but you're like, hmmm, they're probably a liar,
Speaker 1: but this is fun, you know, like I'm not clicking
Speaker 1: on what they asked me to click on. And so
Speaker 1: just asking yourself, like, how can you increase the trust
Speaker 1: the trust between you and your audience wherever you currently
Speaker 1: are with your audience by being consistent showing up? Like lately,
Speaker 1: I've been doing these lives and I told myself, I
Speaker 1: don't look at the numbers anymore. But my sister was like, girl,
Speaker 1: have you noticed your lives are increasing? I'm like, huh,
Speaker 1: because you know, for my own mental health. Like I
Speaker 1: told doctor Greed, I love teaching. So she was like,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, but I don't like social media anymore.
Speaker 1: And she was like, well, why not just go on
Speaker 1: teach and come off. That's what I do, Like, I
Speaker 1: actually add the app of TikTok on what I feel
Speaker 1: like doing a live because maybe I got an amazing
Speaker 1: lesson or something came to me. I'll do a live,
Speaker 1: and then as soon as I go off, I take
Speaker 1: off TikTok. I'm not TikTok. I take Instagram off my phone.
Speaker 1: So at first, when I was doing lives, it was
Speaker 1: maybe like a month or so ago. I started to
Speaker 1: do them, and I got maybe like a on average,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty, one hundred and fifty people would
Speaker 1: show up, and that number would maintain, you know, and
Speaker 1: then it crept up to two hundred, and now we're
Speaker 1: up to four fifty five hundred in a span of
Speaker 1: about a month and a half. I don't save them
Speaker 1: cause quite honesty, like I don't want to upload them
Speaker 1: for later for critique or whatever. I just have a
Speaker 1: lesson that I want to teach a jewel that I
Speaker 1: want to drop, typically about business or personal finance, and
Speaker 1: then I like, drop, Mike, I'm out. But people have
Speaker 1: been really loving them, and you know what it's been doing,
Speaker 1: It's been building trust. Because the other day I didn't
Speaker 1: even talk about the book. I jumped off. I think
Speaker 1: someone said something like, oh, I have your book, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, thanks so much. I hope you're
Speaker 1: enjoying it. I jumped off. A few hours later, I
Speaker 1: looked on Amazon because I checked my my numbers book
Speaker 1: sell numbers all the time, and I jumped like five
Speaker 1: hundred spots and I was like, what, I don't want
Speaker 1: I wasn't even selling the book. But no, it was
Speaker 1: because of that trust from that live and people were
Speaker 1: having such a good time, they said, what else does
Speaker 1: Tiffany have? And so like keeping that in mind, like
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a business owner or just even
Speaker 1: like in your career, that like it's trust is truly
Speaker 1: the commodity that you were in the business of. You know,
Speaker 1: if you can do that, then everything else becomes so
Speaker 1: much easier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's so true. And You've always talked
Speaker 3: about trust. And I think as a black woman owning
Speaker 3: a business, and now that I'm building my own business too,
Speaker 3: I remember, I think about what happens when a black
Speaker 3: business or a black anything insert here, a black musician,
Speaker 3: black artist, black creator of any kind.
Speaker 2: You know, you are so.
Speaker 3: Supported by the community that you lean into that you
Speaker 3: are speaking to, and then the star rises and then
Speaker 3: the brand gets bigger, You become more noticeable. You're in
Speaker 3: rooms that don't look like you know your audience all
Speaker 3: the time. And I was thinking recently while I was
Speaker 3: taking my little girl chek walk earlier four miles whatever,
Speaker 3: and I was thinking about the Shae moisture controversy when
Speaker 3: they sold Shay moisture to what was it, Sundial which
Speaker 3: owns Loril and a bunch of other brands, and they
Speaker 3: had that really tone deaf commercial, uh and shit hit
Speaker 3: the fan, and it was like, you know, black women
Speaker 3: especially and I personally also took a little bit personally
Speaker 3: because you feel like this was for.
Speaker 2: Us, it was our thing.
Speaker 3: It was it was for our texture, It made our hair,
Speaker 3: you know, it gave us a safe space in the
Speaker 3: in the in the drug store to get a product
Speaker 3: that we knew was made for us. And then it
Speaker 3: became everyone else's and look.
Speaker 2: What's happened to it.
Speaker 1: It broke trust.
Speaker 3: It broke trust, and I think it's really important even
Speaker 3: I and I don't. I'm not saying this to say
Speaker 3: that I worry about Tiffany, like, not at all. I
Speaker 3: think that you're so in tune with your audience and
Speaker 3: you care about them so much that wouldn't happen. But
Speaker 3: I especially, I mean, look at Brown Ambition when we
Speaker 3: joined a network. I think that you know, there's a
Speaker 3: little bit of fear. Okay, they're working for a network
Speaker 3: now it's not just Tiffany and Mandy anymore, but we
Speaker 3: are still here in it, you know, on every email,
Speaker 3: a chain, making every decision about who who, who sponsors us,
Speaker 3: who doesn't, who's the guest, who's not the guest, and
Speaker 3: that I think helps continue that trust and we have
Speaker 3: to continue thinking about that. It gets harder to do
Speaker 3: when the money gets bigger and the opportunities bigger.
Speaker 1: Probably, And I'll say this, one of the ways that
Speaker 1: like how I've been able to navigate is well, one,
Speaker 1: you have to get clear like me and Manda are
Speaker 1: very clear. We've had the conversation over and over who
Speaker 1: are we speaking to and why. That's one, so you
Speaker 1: have to get clear on like what's your north star?
Speaker 1: And then two, what honestly helps is that you have
Speaker 1: some and you might not always be able to do this,
Speaker 1: but you have some underlining other things, meaning that we
Speaker 1: can say no to money now and wait hold out
Speaker 1: for what we really what we really want, you know,
Speaker 1: because we're this money. We don't live and die by
Speaker 1: this the you know what's happening now that we will
Speaker 1: play the long game, you know. And so with Budgeteiza,
Speaker 1: it wasn't always so, because I was definitely broken in
Speaker 1: the beginning. But what I used to say was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can say yes to this even though it's not
Speaker 1: in alignment, or I can babysit in tutor and wait
Speaker 1: until something's in alignment. So I always made sure that
Speaker 1: like and from the very beginning, I said to myself, Tifton,
Speaker 1: you're going to have to create a way that income
Speaker 1: comes in that is not in aligned with not aligned
Speaker 1: with anything else other than delivering to the audience. Because
Speaker 1: he keeps you honest. So now when a brand like
Speaker 1: you should see me on my lives, I'm wild. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm like, ooh god, I don't save it because I'd
Speaker 1: be like these brand couple, Why these brands can't kiss
Speaker 1: my behind? And you know what they do? They love it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Tiffany, you're so authentically black. I'm like,
Speaker 1: get out of my inbox. Get out of my inbox,
Speaker 1: you know, because you don't to know why. Because eighty
Speaker 1: to ninety percent of that ten million dollars came directly
Speaker 1: from the audience. I don't have to do anything I
Speaker 1: don't want to do as long as I'm in alignment
Speaker 1: and I pour back into the very people that I
Speaker 1: have said that I've been going to serve. I don't
Speaker 1: ever have to worry. There's not a brand I've had
Speaker 1: brand say to me there was one brand in particular.
Speaker 1: I won't say it was a big bank you can't run,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a little hint. Anyway, they wanted me
Speaker 1: to do something and I was like nah, and the
Speaker 1: guy actually wrote back, we work with people bigger than Tiffany. Ooh,
Speaker 1: you man, we work with people bigger than Tiffany and
Speaker 1: something he said. And I was tempted to be like, sir,
Speaker 1: what are you in my inbox? Waste in my time?
Speaker 1: My dad and I just was like, oh, delete. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't care. I don't care. I
Speaker 1: don't care if you want to offer me one hundred thousand,
Speaker 1: I don't care if you want to offer me one million,
Speaker 1: I don't care. If you're want to offer me ten million.
Speaker 1: I can make that myself. You can kick rocks. The
Speaker 1: better I am to my community, the better my business is.
Speaker 1: And so if you develop your business on that kind
Speaker 1: of foundation, and it might be slow in the beginning.
Speaker 1: Remember I told y'all that I didn't really I got
Speaker 1: to millionaire status. I'm talking about capital liquid millionaire status
Speaker 1: at age thirty seven, but at thirty three I was broke, right,
Speaker 1: So it took a long time thirty three was like,
Speaker 1: oh my U's ever gonna thirty four? I started a
Speaker 1: little peak thirty six and then it finally hit. But
Speaker 1: you see, it's so much better this way because literally
Speaker 1: there's nothing that I have to say yes to. Nothing.
Speaker 1: I always ask myself, is this an alignment? Isis you
Speaker 1: want to go? Is this good for the audience? Does
Speaker 1: this feel right? I'm not going to sell like someone
Speaker 1: just offer me a ton of money to sell some
Speaker 1: crappy payday loan. It's a different type of payday loan.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, take this and shove it. Like
Speaker 1: you know, if it knows who you are, they're always
Speaker 1: offered me. I'm telling you now, most of my contracts
Speaker 1: now are six figure contracts, and so I probably say,
Speaker 1: note about seven figures a year, you know. But and
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, you know, doing that because I
Speaker 1: always said the money was I needed enough to be
Speaker 1: safe and secure with my family, and we're here now,
Speaker 1: and so oftentimes I let go of the money just
Speaker 1: to just to make sure that, like you know, I'm
Speaker 1: working from a place of you know, what I really
Speaker 1: believe to be right and true. I want to be
Speaker 1: able to sleep well at night. Like, one of my
Speaker 1: companies make seven figures a year and I don't take
Speaker 1: any money from that. Instead, I use it to hire
Speaker 1: more women that look like me on purpose. And I
Speaker 1: told the team that the other day they're like, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I'm like, I could be making an
Speaker 1: additional an additional million dollars a year and take home
Speaker 1: pay a year, and I have said, noice that because
Speaker 1: I want you to be able to work here, because
Speaker 1: I know where you were before they mistreated you. I
Speaker 1: know that where you were before they didn't care about
Speaker 1: your your your feedback. I know where you were before
Speaker 1: you know they they took your ideas and pretended it
Speaker 1: was theirs. So as a result of that, I will
Speaker 1: relinquish this million dollars a year for my family and I.
Speaker 1: But I expect excellence from you that I want you
Speaker 1: to come to the table with the best that you
Speaker 1: have in you, and I don't. I don't accept any
Speaker 1: excuses for excellence. Excellence just means doing your best, and
Speaker 1: so in doing so, there is no brand that could
Speaker 1: come to me that can tep me with anything. I'm like,
Speaker 1: since I say note to a million dollars, but my
Speaker 1: own damn company. I don't give a damn about your
Speaker 1: credit card. That's you said it's going to make me rich.
Speaker 1: I'm already rich.
Speaker 3: Bye, that's the show.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just on one today because Brand pissed me
Speaker 1: off today and I was just like.
Speaker 3: I.
Speaker 2: Love a Tiffany Brand.
Speaker 3: I got nothing to say. Listen, money is freedom. Don't
Speaker 3: let them tell you that money cannot buy you happiness.
Speaker 3: It can buy you a lot of things that make
Speaker 3: you happy, and one of them is freedom of choice.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what Tiffany is demonstrating. Okay, so
Speaker 3: take your payday loans and your credit cards and be
Speaker 3: gone and shove it.
Speaker 2: Oh that was good, all right?
Speaker 1: Should we do a little.
Speaker 3: Brown boosty breaking a boosty breaky.
Speaker 1: Now we's time to boost up, break up, boost up,
Speaker 1: break all boost oh break boo break? Are you going
Speaker 1: to boost or are you going to break?
Speaker 3: Mandy? I am gonna do a boost and a break Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm buying myself time to come up with both of them.
Speaker 1: But look here, I'm trying to think, like I know,
Speaker 1: like I had a boost break, but I forgot in
Speaker 1: my head, in my head, where did it go? I
Speaker 1: will boost for so I don't know. You heard the
Speaker 1: story of that podcast called Call Call Me Daddy, Call
Speaker 1: Her Daddy.
Speaker 2: I've heard of it, but I haven't listened to it.
Speaker 1: So no, like, really this the stories is really interesting
Speaker 1: of like what happened? What happened? It was these two
Speaker 1: young women that like, I think it's called Call Me Daddy, Call.
Speaker 2: Call Her Daddy.
Speaker 1: I think, so we have this podcast. Well I don't
Speaker 1: have this podcast, but it's called Call Her Daddy. And
Speaker 1: it was just a really interesting story of how it
Speaker 1: all went dune. But so it was these two girls
Speaker 1: that started this podcast. They're you know, one thing you
Speaker 1: learned is that, you know, my my mentor reminds me
Speaker 1: that greatness is polarizing, meaning that they were really outlandish
Speaker 1: and like, you know, crazy while talking about everything, which
Speaker 1: is awesome. And so they partnered with a podcast company
Speaker 1: called Oh you know my brain is really Like, I
Speaker 1: feel like I had something to do about beer their podcast.
Speaker 3: Coming Sarah, Sarah, what podcast company did Call her Daddy?
Speaker 1: Barstool?
Speaker 4: You see, I said beer, But I was like, you
Speaker 4: see how my mom works. Yeah, okay, so call her Daddy.
Speaker 1: Partners on the ride now, I promise, I promise I'm
Speaker 1: a Tarnets ride around were going well, get back on
Speaker 1: the track, and so they partnered with Barstool and as
Speaker 1: a result, you know, they really blow up. Like they
Speaker 1: went from twelve thousand downloads a month to two million,
Speaker 1: and it's doing really well. They decide that they're going
Speaker 1: to renegotiate after a year ne negotiate the terms of
Speaker 1: their contract. They were being paid seventy thousand dollars base
Speaker 1: and then a percentage of merch sales and percentage of ads,
Speaker 1: and so they renegotiate, negotiate, negoti But one of the
Speaker 1: things that they negotiate for is ownership of the IP,
Speaker 1: the intellectual property of Call Her Daddy. And at first
Speaker 1: the answer was no, no, no, no no. But they
Speaker 1: fought for it, and one of the girls, I guess
Speaker 1: she wanted to go a different way, ended up leaving.
Speaker 1: But the girl who stayed, she got her IP, she
Speaker 1: got to keep Call Her Daddy And recently, you know,
Speaker 1: she just got bought by Spotify for sixty million dollars.
Speaker 1: And I guess, really the booster, I know, I guess
Speaker 1: really the boost for me is like the power of ownership.
Speaker 1: Now you can't always own everything all the time, you know,
Speaker 1: but sometimes creative you know, sometimes when you start in
Speaker 1: a business, sometimes when you're doing whatever it is that
Speaker 1: you're creating, you know, in the beginning, you're so eager
Speaker 1: to make the money or get put on that you
Speaker 1: can easily give away your power by giving away your ownership.
Speaker 1: I remember I read this thing like it was a
Speaker 1: podcast something where Nas was on, and he said one
Speaker 1: of the things that Prince told him was like, own
Speaker 1: your rights, own your publishing, own your There are people
Speaker 1: who don't own those things. From my understanding, like Mary J. Blize,
Speaker 1: for example, as much money as she's made, I read
Speaker 1: somewhere that she still owes the record label twenty five
Speaker 1: million dollars and it's hard for her to make that
Speaker 1: money back because she doesn't own the rights to her
Speaker 1: own songs and things. And so ownership is key because
Speaker 1: you can have someone that's not as popular as a Mary,
Speaker 1: but because they have ownership, they are still making more,
Speaker 1: you know, because every dollar they have a greater take
Speaker 1: of every dollar that comes in. And so I just
Speaker 1: just was thinking about that, that how important ownership is.
Speaker 1: And with all these new amazing creators that are coming out,
Speaker 1: I hope that They're just keeping that in mind that
Speaker 1: like ownership, you're not always able to keep everything. But
Speaker 1: like so, for example, like books, right, so I traditionally published,
Speaker 1: I don't own like I own the basic copyright for
Speaker 1: like the words and things I wrote them, but I
Speaker 1: don't really own the book. Like I can't take this
Speaker 1: book and sell it myself. Penguin owns it. But I
Speaker 1: knew that like that was a trade off for me
Speaker 1: because I knew in order for me to get a
Speaker 1: New York Times bestsellers list and to do what I
Speaker 1: needed to do to take the budget East to the
Speaker 1: next level, I was willing to give that up. But
Speaker 1: I still am able to self publish my own books
Speaker 1: on my own if I decided to move forward. Sorry, Penguin,
Speaker 1: That's what I decided. That's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1: But I also too. A publishing company had asked to
Speaker 1: buy Molly Moore. I think it was Simon and Schuster.
Speaker 1: So they wanted to buy get it with money, but
Speaker 1: they also wanted to buy Molly Moore, and I said no.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I said hell no, because my plans
Speaker 1: for Molly are different. And so if I forecast forward,
Speaker 1: I want to maintain ownership of Molly Moore. And if
Speaker 1: a production company just reached out to buy it for me,
Speaker 1: I said no because I have a longer term, Like
Speaker 1: this book was like I need to give something amazing
Speaker 1: to my audience. Here's a guide. I want to get
Speaker 1: a New York Times bestsellers list. I want to raise
Speaker 1: the profile of budget needs to like, don't play with me.
Speaker 1: We reel out here done, but Molly more is in
Speaker 1: ten years. I want this to be a billion dollar business.
Speaker 1: I want to see her on every streaming platform. I
Speaker 1: want the babies to be wear Molly Moore t shirts
Speaker 1: and Molly Moore shoelaces. That doesn't happen, you know, without
Speaker 1: me attached to it, Like y'all am not gonna make
Speaker 1: Molly Moore happen. And I'm just sitting like at home
Speaker 1: like that used to be me. So just consider that,
Speaker 1: like ownership, ownership, ownership is really it's really critical, especially
Speaker 1: in today's days and time, as you create things on
Speaker 1: different websites and partner with different organizations to try to
Speaker 1: maintain as much ownership as possible. So that's my brown boostye.
Speaker 3: Ah, that was a really good one, and it actually
Speaker 3: thank you because it reminded me of a really good
Speaker 3: boost that I could boost. But also as a freelancer
Speaker 3: myself now part of my income.
Speaker 2: I have several streams of income. In one of them is.
Speaker 3: When I want to, I will write articles for other
Speaker 3: websites and even just as a writer. I don't know
Speaker 3: if I should say this or not, but anyway I wrote.
Speaker 3: I wrote a pretty big piece for a pretty big site,
Speaker 3: and I was going to get paid for it. But
Speaker 3: then I saw the contract and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't want to sign that and I don't need
Speaker 3: the money, so not going to sign it. And it's
Speaker 3: mine forever, it's not yours. And it's been this ongoing
Speaker 3: thing because the language in these contracts it is just
Speaker 3: like we, I mean, who are these attorneys? We will
Speaker 3: own this an importuity and worldwide, I don't know, in
Speaker 3: all the universnational universe. Yes, these words are ours. It was.
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, I wrote the piece and then I shopped
Speaker 3: it around to different outlets. It wasn't like it was
Speaker 3: commissioned directly from this particular outlet, and I was like, no,
Speaker 3: you can keep the money. And I negotiated like three
Speaker 3: times normally what they would have paid, and I'll take
Speaker 3: the the accolade and the fact that I got my
Speaker 3: piece published on your site, and we'll just call.
Speaker 2: It a day.
Speaker 3: But as a creator, and especially even this we talk
Speaker 3: about TikTok and people creating now, they want to like
Speaker 3: they want there's a there's a business that's trying to
Speaker 3: trademark dances as intellectual property like a chore choreography, because
Speaker 3: a lot of black and brown creators are making these
Speaker 3: huge dances go viral it which has led to songs
Speaker 3: that weren't even Like people are talking about Jason Derulo
Speaker 3: now because he had a TikTok song that one like
Speaker 3: where was he anyway? No shade Jason, and.
Speaker 2: Like we know your name, you did it, you got
Speaker 2: the jingle.
Speaker 3: But as black people and brown people in general, we
Speaker 3: have to, like we have to focus on ownership and
Speaker 3: on that intellectual property and actual tactics that you use
Speaker 3: to protect it. And that will bring me to my
Speaker 3: boost because I was just talking about this with a
Speaker 3: dear friend of ours called Sandy Smith from Yes I
Speaker 3: Am Cheap, Hey Sandy Girl, and I just love Sandy.
Speaker 3: She's a bucketful of sunshine and I don't know how
Speaker 3: she does all the things that she does with the
Speaker 3: Tiny Human and being a landlord and all that. But
Speaker 3: one of her passion projects is the Elevate Money conference,
Speaker 3: which came about I think the first conference was maybe
Speaker 3: last year or the year before, and it's right, and
Speaker 3: she made it happen even through the pandemic. But Elevate
Speaker 3: Money is really supposed to be a safe space for
Speaker 3: black and brown people to get together here from black
Speaker 3: and brown creators and influencers and learn lessons about wealth building,
Speaker 3: creating a business, and being empowered. And this year she
Speaker 3: was supposed to host it and Tulsa, which probably you
Speaker 3: might have heard, supposed to host it and Tulsa. It
Speaker 3: was all set up, it was going to be at
Speaker 3: this amazing location, but then you know, the Delta variant
Speaker 3: came to town and she decided to no longer do
Speaker 3: the in person conference, and in fact, it was canceled altogether.
Speaker 2: But Sandy never.
Speaker 3: Lets projects go, and she she has set such such
Speaker 3: a high bar for herself, so she's decided to turn
Speaker 3: the conference into a free virtual conference. So if you're
Speaker 3: listening to this, you can check out Elevate Money. We'll
Speaker 3: post a link in the show notes and a ten.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a free virtual online conference. I
Speaker 3: don't know none of the details, but I know Sandy
Speaker 3: and I know it's going to be extraordinary. And she
Speaker 3: and I were talking about in one particular part of
Speaker 3: the conference helping people understand how to get things trademarked.
Speaker 3: You know, how to protect your IP girl, and yeah,
Speaker 3: by the way, brand Emission's trademark, you got it, don't
Speaker 3: go for it, you know, and how to own all
Speaker 3: of that. So that's what Thanks for reminding me of that.
Speaker 3: And I'm really happy for Sandy that Elevate Money is happening.
Speaker 3: I will I will be there and we'll post a
Speaker 3: link in the show notes so you guys can check
Speaker 3: it out and join for free.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know we love free. But no, that's true
Speaker 1: because I like one of the best things. I'm like
Speaker 1: a gift someone gave me was I remember it was
Speaker 1: like probably year one or two of the Budjanista and
Speaker 1: they asked me if I had a trademark. I was
Speaker 1: like no, and they were like you shit. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't have any money, and I think it was
Speaker 1: like two hundred and seventy five dollars and I remember
Speaker 1: being like, I how any money. He was like put
Speaker 1: it on a credit card. You know, I couldn't even
Speaker 1: afford an attorney. But he had trademarked his name, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, he said come to He was
Speaker 1: a musician, and he was like, come to the studio.
Speaker 1: I'm going to walk you through online. So I literally
Speaker 1: sat and did it. Oh my gosh, I it is
Speaker 1: the best thing I ever did, because a year later
Speaker 1: I got a Google alert that said Meet the Budgeonisa,
Speaker 1: and it was like traced back to the Wells Fargo
Speaker 1: website and I was like, oh, Wells Fargo. I wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was this beautiful Asian woman. I'm sure she's super nice.
Speaker 1: It wasn't me. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, what do I do?
Speaker 1: And within twenty four hours it was down because clearly
Speaker 1: someone did their googles and found the trademark belonged to it.
Speaker 3: Wah wait, this is my face because I just remember
Speaker 3: what my real break was gonna be and it.
Speaker 2: Is so related. How did I forget this?
Speaker 3: Tiffany, did you see the drama on Instagram? There is
Speaker 3: an account, So first of all, there's an author shit.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get her name wrong.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get her how now there's no information.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's the ta okay Igioma Oluu And
Speaker 3: I'm really sorry if I pronounced that Wrong's Jama, that's
Speaker 3: my sister's name, Ejama, beautiful name, Ejama, Oluo Oluo okay
Speaker 3: today Ollulah. She is the author of a very famous
Speaker 3: book called So You Want to Talk About Race?
Speaker 2: And Igioma?
Speaker 1: Wait did I do it wrong with Jama?
Speaker 2: Ejama? Thank you?
Speaker 3: Ejama Ejama. She's when you see things and you don't
Speaker 3: say them out loud, and then you're on a podcast
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden it's like, oh, maybe I
Speaker 3: should have practiced ejama. Anyway, So she is this famous author,
Speaker 3: and especially in the wake of twenty twenty last year,
Speaker 3: a lot of books about racism suddenly were sore into
Speaker 3: the tops of you know, bestseller's list because a lot
Speaker 3: of people were very interested all of a sudden in
Speaker 3: talking about race, especially her book. And around that time,
Speaker 3: this other Instagram account became wildly popular called so You
Speaker 3: Want to Talk About That was the name, and it
Speaker 3: came to it came to be and it was all
Speaker 3: it's all very it's not led by a face. It's
Speaker 3: just called so you want to talk about? And every
Speaker 3: day or every other day, they kind of created these
Speaker 3: these carousel posts of PowerPoint slides talking about different issues,
Speaker 3: a lot of things about race and racism but also politic,
Speaker 3: social justice, et cetera. And it became wildly popular, like
Speaker 3: three million followers popular. And this author was People were
Speaker 3: joining this page so you want to talk about because
Speaker 3: they thought it was this author. Yes, And it turns out,
Speaker 3: of course, it's run by a white woman whose name
Speaker 3: is Jess. And this came out this past week. I
Speaker 3: don't know if there was a particular incident, because she's
Speaker 3: this controversy's kind of been there, like people have known, hey,
Speaker 3: this is not really a Jama and this is not okay.
Speaker 3: And Ajama got on Instagram and she actually told her
Speaker 3: story of finding out about the account and really just
Speaker 3: kind of tucking it away and just saying, listen, I
Speaker 3: can't do anything about it. I'm just gonna, you know,
Speaker 3: go on my merry way. But because of so much
Speaker 3: backlash and because so many people were really you know,
Speaker 3: fighting for Ajama and wanting her to be you know,
Speaker 3: to have some form of justice. Finally, the Jess, the
Speaker 3: founder of so you want to talk about, she decided
Speaker 3: to rename her handle, so it's a different name handle,
Speaker 3: and she's like, I'm putting my name out there, and
Speaker 3: she had this like very week week disclaimer kind of
Speaker 3: shoved down in her Instagram bio that's like not affiliated
Speaker 3: with a gema, you know, not affiliated with that book.
Speaker 3: And she's but now it's a whole different name, and
Speaker 3: I just thought that that was, yeah, very similar, because
Speaker 3: it's about so often it's like black creators, black artists,
Speaker 3: black writers, black entertainers who create something and it's ours, right,
Speaker 3: and then it becomes you put a white face on it,
Speaker 3: in a white name or a white you know. Oh yes,
Speaker 3: so Lizzo said black people created rock and roll. Okay,
Speaker 3: oh wow, we know please single. Yeah, And it just
Speaker 3: it continues to happen even today.
Speaker 1: And girl takes something that bitcoin. You know that Dallas
Speaker 1: sign b bitcoin. You know, I trademarked that a year
Speaker 1: before bitcoin ever came out, like that Dallas sign B.
Speaker 1: I own that, Yeah, because everybody I see that, I
Speaker 1: think of you, Yeah, because remember it used to be
Speaker 1: in all my stuff and I didn't because I had
Speaker 1: never Bitcoin wasn't a thing. I was like, I literally
Speaker 1: had a dream and in the dream, my sister was
Speaker 1: drinking from a bug and there was a dollar sign
Speaker 1: B on it, and I was like, what do you
Speaker 1: do with my mug? And then I woke up and
Speaker 1: I was like sleeping on my my parents' couch. I
Speaker 1: was like, ooh, that's my logo dollar sign B. So
Speaker 1: I went, if you go try trade type in dollar
Speaker 1: sign B like it says owned by Tiffany Eliche. I
Speaker 1: still own it. I'm not giving up this, but there
Speaker 1: was nobody to sew because bitcoin's I owned by anyone.
Speaker 1: So it's just really frustrating, you know. Like I was
Speaker 1: just like because I was using it for like a
Speaker 1: year to two years, and then bitcoin came out, someone
Speaker 1: decided this is the artwork for it, and then it
Speaker 1: went crazy, and I just decided, you know, what do
Speaker 1: I do. Do I fight against this like machine thing,
Speaker 1: or do I say that the real the real power
Speaker 1: is in my name budgetista, you know, And so I
Speaker 1: kind of like let it go. But yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 1: I mean I own that, I own that Xala slime
Speaker 1: b baby.
Speaker 3: I mean that sounds like a whole like saga for
Speaker 3: another day, like finding that no one can figure out
Speaker 3: who created a bitcoin, But in Ejama's case, at least
Speaker 3: you know she has. I mean, I don't think it'll
Speaker 3: it can't undo because her social media following is a
Speaker 3: lot less and you know how many people follow So
Speaker 3: you want to talk about thinking that it was because
Speaker 3: they read the book, you know, And that just pisses
Speaker 3: me off, really does. And I'm sure just said all
Speaker 3: the right things about how sorry she is, et cetera,
Speaker 3: et cetera, but it's still that privilege of just just
Speaker 3: even casually, Oh, I didn't know any better. I just
Speaker 3: thought it was a good name. But to not have
Speaker 3: to think about that, and to take something else that
Speaker 3: was the fruit of someone else's work and then turn
Speaker 3: it into your own. That is hmm, colonialism, white supremacy, racism.
Speaker 1: Every day.
Speaker 3: We're living it even now. So to Tiffany's point, yes,
Speaker 3: try your best to protect your IP.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, for real, yep. The determine that you're going
Speaker 1: to be big time one day, and what we you need?
Speaker 1: You know, what what protection do you need now to
Speaker 1: make sure when you are big time you're like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I own that? Who you know?
Speaker 3: So?
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Speaker 1: Grow, I said, we got a broad ambition of TikTok.
Speaker 1: That's right, right, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I lost it with IG and with Twitter, but I
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