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Speaker 1: at the Star in Presco is starting to fill up
Speaker 1: with cars. It's time to get back to work it is.
Speaker 1: We're past the bye week. Now it's time for the Titans.
Speaker 1: And this is Talking Cowboys. Bill Jones along with Brian
Speaker 1: brought us, Rob Phillips, Mickey Spagnola, Kim Garrison taking your
Speaker 1: phone calls, and we will take your phone calls today
Speaker 1: as there's lots to get to eight eight, eight, five,
Speaker 1: two two nine seven. And of course we were here
Speaker 1: yesterday wrapping up the weekend and then later in the
Speaker 1: day yesterday the Cowboys break some news as they get
Speaker 1: set to start their work week here at the Star.
Speaker 1: As a change has been made on the coaching staff.
Speaker 1: Paul Alexander is out and Mark Colombo promoted from assistant
Speaker 1: offensive line coach too offensive line coach, and Hudson Howk
Speaker 1: is coming back of course, the forty year or so
Speaker 1: veteran of coaching is coming back. He was with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys from ninety three to one and then again from
Speaker 1: eight to through the twenty eleven season, and he's going
Speaker 1: to be an advisor on the staff. We'll see how
Speaker 1: what his role actually will be once we start seeing
Speaker 1: some practices out there and so forth. But let's get
Speaker 1: some initial reaction right off the top. Rob you want
Speaker 1: to start, something had to change up front. I think
Speaker 1: we've talked about it at nauseum. Really that everything starts
Speaker 1: up front. If you want to talk about out the
Speaker 1: passing game not making plays downfield consistently, the running game
Speaker 1: not being consistent. Mary Cooper coming in can help, but
Speaker 1: you gotta have time, you gotta have pass protection. You
Speaker 1: got open holes. And they decided to go at the
Speaker 1: top in terms of coaching staff and make a move
Speaker 1: with Paul Alexander and see if that can change. Now
Speaker 1: the question is what changes with him coming in. Do
Speaker 1: they just go back to what they used to do
Speaker 1: in terms of techniques and things that they've worked in
Speaker 1: the past. We'll see, but this is two o line changes,
Speaker 1: coaching changes in the last two years. So regardless of
Speaker 1: who's involved there. They've got to figure out what the
Speaker 1: differences between the road and AT and T Stadium because
Speaker 1: at and T Stadum has been okay, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: fixing what's been the issue on the road. And I
Speaker 1: think what happened when the running game, specifically against Washington
Speaker 1: was really alarming. Let's say that was a big concern.
Speaker 1: Ye I'm gonna let you finish, Okay. I want to
Speaker 1: go with Mickey next because I want to give the
Speaker 1: proper introduction to Brian here in just a second. So Mickey,
Speaker 1: your initial reaction. We gotta reason for this, Okay. I
Speaker 1: would just wonder what proper? Was nothing proper with this group.
Speaker 1: I think we kind of beat around the bush last
Speaker 1: week about this possibility and a possibility to me and
Speaker 1: I sensed it. It's like it just seemed to be
Speaker 1: a bad fit. It was like a disconnect, and I
Speaker 1: think they finally decided, Okay, we got to do something.
Speaker 1: We the last two road games, Zekiel Elliott ran the
Speaker 1: ball thirty five times for eighty eight yards. Something one
Speaker 1: working up front. They've Dak Prescott has been sacked twenty
Speaker 1: three times. Only four teams in the league have given
Speaker 1: up more sacks going into this past weekend, and three
Speaker 1: of them were Buffalo, San Francisco and the Giants, and
Speaker 1: those teams, Buffalo has the most wins of all those
Speaker 1: three teams two. The fourth team was Houston, and I
Speaker 1: believe they suffered seven sacks in one game before the
Speaker 1: Cowboys played him. So the average going into week eight
Speaker 1: of the season, where teams were suffering sixteen point three
Speaker 1: sacks to that point, Cowboys giving up twenty three and
Speaker 1: they still got nine games to play. Figured out the
Speaker 1: pace is fifty. Yeah, So I just think something had
Speaker 1: to change up front. The guys were not playing, and
Speaker 1: I'll just use Laylee Collins as an example. I know
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick's not there, and I understand Joe Looney is
Speaker 1: not Travis Frederick, and I understand about the rookie, but
Speaker 1: Laal Collins was looking like he was getting it last
Speaker 1: year the second half at right tackle, and I think
Speaker 1: he regressed. Now why he grew regressed, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I think obviously they were looking for reasons why
Speaker 1: this offense wasn't functioning. They brought into R Cooper and
Speaker 1: then they made the change on the offensive line and Frankly,
Speaker 1: I thought from the beginning that Mark Colombo should have
Speaker 1: gotten the job. I thought he looked the part, he
Speaker 1: sounded the part I think the players reacted to him.
Speaker 1: And the fact they brought in hud It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Colombo's never had the room by himself, and maybe he
Speaker 1: just needed a sounding board to bring in a guy
Speaker 1: that you've been around for thirteen years over two different stints.
Speaker 1: So and it wasn't like they woke up Monday morning
Speaker 1: and said, oh, let's do this, right, HUD's already here yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was here yesterday. And we'll talk more about Hudson
Speaker 1: here and just here just a second, okay, Brian, I
Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on the change. But also
Speaker 1: you've have a unique attire today. Yeah, just before we
Speaker 1: get started, though, I know we have a lot of
Speaker 1: fans in the UK and you know, tragedy happened for
Speaker 1: one of our We have a lot of fans in
Speaker 1: Leicester City, in London, all over Europe really, but I
Speaker 1: just wanted us to know that, you know, we're thinking
Speaker 1: with our English side in Leicester City. You know, they
Speaker 1: tragically lost their owner in a helicopter crash and you know,
Speaker 1: Dan Turner is one of our great friends over there
Speaker 1: who you know, we've really got to know, and he's
Speaker 1: a long time Leicester City fan, and I just wanted
Speaker 1: to know that all of us here we're thinking of
Speaker 1: you guys. We love all you guys over there, and
Speaker 1: we're sorry about your loss. So today I'll honor you
Speaker 1: with the scarf and and hope that this getch you
Speaker 1: guys through a little bit. And the sixty year old
Speaker 1: owner of the team was one of one of five
Speaker 1: people on board the aircraft when it burst into flames.
Speaker 1: If you're crashing in a parking lot next to King
Speaker 1: Powers Stadium, I think after their match on Saturday, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a statement described the chairman as a man of kindness,
Speaker 1: of generosity, a man whose life was defined by the
Speaker 1: love he devoted to his family and those he so
Speaker 1: successfully led. I'm not about to try to pronounce. It's
Speaker 1: very difficult online, but yeah, if, yeah, if you go
Speaker 1: on line and listen to and read the story about
Speaker 1: Leicester City and this is a team that was five
Speaker 1: thousand to one to win the Premiere Championship, Premier League Championship,
Speaker 1: and they did it a couple of years ago. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a great story, greatest underdog story history of
Speaker 1: traditional sports, honestly, but they're they're going through some tough
Speaker 1: times right now with this loss. So we just want
Speaker 1: to let everybody know here with you. Yeah, we're all
Speaker 1: thinking about you over there, and that's why we're doing this.
Speaker 1: That's why were my shirt. I didn't think of it now,
Speaker 1: it just Dandy gave me one when we went over there,
Speaker 1: says Mickey on the back too. It does really where
Speaker 1: tomorrow great we can kit um my thoughts on this,
Speaker 1: and I think Micky hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 1: I think Rob is very good with his assessment as well.
Speaker 1: Now it's on the players. This is this is really
Speaker 1: on the players that you know, we've we've talked about
Speaker 1: throughout though that that they need to play better as
Speaker 1: as an offensive line. They don't need to give up hits,
Speaker 1: they don't need to give up pressures, they don't need
Speaker 1: to give up sacks. They need to do better in
Speaker 1: the running games. So Mark Colombo, I think we'll come
Speaker 1: in and do an outstanding job. I think he's prepared.
Speaker 1: I think he's ready. I think he has the respect
Speaker 1: in that room. I like them bring in Hudson. How
Speaker 1: long time guy Hudd will be a great sounding board
Speaker 1: like Mickey's talking about. Had a chance to visit with
Speaker 1: him yesterday. He's excited about being back and back and
Speaker 1: potentially helping out here any way that he can. But
Speaker 1: now this is on As Rob said, the last two years,
Speaker 1: this team on the offensive line has had two different
Speaker 1: offensive line coaches. Okay, you know you don't do that
Speaker 1: unless you know you talk about what's going on. Is
Speaker 1: there a fit? Is that the fact the players aren't responding?
Speaker 1: You know? I think now that to me, there's really
Speaker 1: not any excuse. There's not any excuse. You know, Mark
Speaker 1: Colombo will get them prepared. Hudd will get them prepared.
Speaker 1: But now it's on Lyle Collins to be better. It
Speaker 1: is on Smithy Smith to be better. It's on Da
Speaker 1: Martin to be better. This group is a very capable group.
Speaker 1: They just have not played like a capable group right now.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest problem I have. You
Speaker 1: can change out the coach, you don't always get to
Speaker 1: change out the players. I don't know if you necessarily
Speaker 1: want to change out these players from what we've seen
Speaker 1: in past. But I will put the ball now in
Speaker 1: their court. They have got to find a way these
Speaker 1: last nine weeks or so to play better as a unit,
Speaker 1: find a way to protect the quarterback, run the football better,
Speaker 1: and get this offense going to the level it needs
Speaker 1: to play at so that they can make some type
Speaker 1: of a run for the division and then get into
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Because from a talent standpoint, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of teams in the NFL that would take this this
Speaker 1: group this talent, no question. But you know, Brian said
Speaker 1: it again, Frank Paula got fired last year. Really for
Speaker 1: those last eight games of the season, right, Dak got sacked.
Speaker 1: You know, Mickey pointed out the stats, thirty two sacks
Speaker 1: for Dak last year. I think twenty two were in
Speaker 1: the final eight games. And now you've got a seven
Speaker 1: game stretch that's very s He's just not getting enough
Speaker 1: protection and uh and when Zeke is not is kind
Speaker 1: of on again, off again home road. Look, something has
Speaker 1: to change because everything, the foundation of this offense is
Speaker 1: what they do upfront. And that's why partly why they
Speaker 1: kind of went with a committee at wide receiver to start,
Speaker 1: because I think they felt like that, well, we can
Speaker 1: control the line of scrimmage. Yes, it hasn't happened, at
Speaker 1: least not consistently, and again not in those four losses
Speaker 1: they've had away from home. You know, um, and I
Speaker 1: agree with what all of you are saying. Colombo with
Speaker 1: a candidate for the job back in the spring, and
Speaker 1: I think one of the big things is recognizing quickly
Speaker 1: that Okay, you made a mistake or whatever it might
Speaker 1: however you want to term it, and go ahead and
Speaker 1: make the move. And maybe they're making this move in
Speaker 1: time to salvage what's going on. I think Nicky's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a very odd fit considering that,
Speaker 1: yeahs is what is Paul Alexander in his history and
Speaker 1: Incinnati as far as his coaching technique and one of
Speaker 1: them when everybody talks about what his the way the
Speaker 1: hand placement thing was like high hand, low hand. You know,
Speaker 1: they talk about zone blocking, power blocking, they talk about
Speaker 1: all the different things that the changes that they've had
Speaker 1: to make. They you know, this this one to me
Speaker 1: and I need to dig a little bit further, but
Speaker 1: you know, I felt like that that Jason's brother John
Speaker 1: coach with Paul Alexander while they while he was at
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and so you know, there's probably probably a connection
Speaker 1: there as far as what's going on. So you know,
Speaker 1: I was I was hopeful that Mark was going to
Speaker 1: get this job. And I'm not looking at this as hindsight.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking. I was trying to think of how
Speaker 1: do you keep consistency, how do you keep and so
Speaker 1: to come in and say, okay, and Mickey's right about
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins. His his technique has gotten worse from last
Speaker 1: year and I think a lot of it, and and
Speaker 1: talking to a couple of players about it as well,
Speaker 1: they were saying, the worst thing that could have happened
Speaker 1: to Lyle Collins as they changed coaches, that's the worst
Speaker 1: thing that could have happened him because now he was
Speaker 1: having to think everything out, rethink it again. And even
Speaker 1: Paul Alexander, if you go back and listen to his interview,
Speaker 1: he's like, well, some guys get it and some guys
Speaker 1: haven't got it. I think that interview last week to me,
Speaker 1: if you go back and watch it on Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com, I think it's very telling. I think it's
Speaker 1: very telling that that, you know, and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's going to rip his offensive line and say oh,
Speaker 1: this and that, and you know, we have to do
Speaker 1: this and do that, and you know Tyrn Smith's gradeni.
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to be a former NFL
Speaker 1: scout or a writer or a TV man or anything
Speaker 1: to see this offensive line wasn't playing well enough, just wasn't.
Speaker 1: And you know, for him to stand up there and say, oh, no,
Speaker 1: everything is okay. Yeah, it's kind of a big shoulder shrug. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's like, well, you know what they I just teach,
Speaker 1: that's all I do. No, you're more than that. You're
Speaker 1: more than that, you know, and find a way to
Speaker 1: get this This group right here is at one time
Speaker 1: was one of the top five lines in the league,
Speaker 1: and right now they're not. They're not that and this
Speaker 1: team and if you listen to the owner general manager
Speaker 1: talk this morning, he expects a lot from this offensive line.
Speaker 1: He expects the way that he has, the way he
Speaker 1: used resources to get them, and the way the resources
Speaker 1: he's used to pay them. He expects a lot. And
Speaker 1: if it's not living up to his standards, then by
Speaker 1: all means, make this change. But I agree with Mickey
Speaker 1: though it was a very very bad fit to begin with,
Speaker 1: because I think it compromised some of the development of
Speaker 1: the guys you had that you were counting on. One
Speaker 1: more stat that, Mickey, I don't know if you pointed
Speaker 1: this one out. Dack's rookie year twenty five sacks the
Speaker 1: entire season, and again, every sack that he takes is
Speaker 1: not solely on the offensive line. Sometimes he's holding the
Speaker 1: ball too long, yea, but or guy's not getting open. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go, covers sack or whatever. But that's that's
Speaker 1: indicative of the shift we've seen with this old line
Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen, when this was a dominant offense. See,
Speaker 1: this is all new to us. I think. I think
Speaker 1: this is new because we didn't expect and I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I shouldn't speak for everybody. This is new to me
Speaker 1: because I didn't expect this offensive line to have the
Speaker 1: struggles that's having. I didn't expect them to go out
Speaker 1: there and be the Oh, wait, they're giving up pressure,
Speaker 1: or they're not running the ball. Oh they're not. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect it. I expected, you know, with the
Speaker 1: loss with Travis Fredick, I was worried. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: sit here and act like I wasn't. I was worried help.
Speaker 1: But Joe Looney has not been the problem. Joe Looney
Speaker 1: hasn't been the prompt. But as a group, they have
Speaker 1: not played as well as I thought that they would play.
Speaker 1: And I think that I think that's why you make
Speaker 1: the change. I think that's why the front office said, no,
Speaker 1: we need better from this group. And if it means
Speaker 1: Mark Colombo coming in here and saying, all right, listen, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and do this for you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try and help you with technique. I'm gonna try and
Speaker 1: get you better. We're gonna think about things. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go back to some of the things that were good
Speaker 1: at you know. It's it's like Paul Oxander maybe said, hey,
Speaker 1: I want you guys to do it this way. For
Speaker 1: twenty four years he did it that way, you know,
Speaker 1: but maybe that doesn't work. Well. Obviously it doesn't work
Speaker 1: with this group because the man lost his job, you know.
Speaker 1: And I didn't point it out, but in seven games,
Speaker 1: the quarterback has also been hit forty six times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's do the math on that. They're not even
Speaker 1: halfway through the season. He's on pace to get hit
Speaker 1: a hundred times. Seriously, something's wrong. And I agree with
Speaker 1: with Brian that you know, the guy's got to play better.
Speaker 1: But maybe there's a reason why they're not playing so aggressively.
Speaker 1: And you know how many times have we seen you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, Tyron Smith is not going to be perfect,
Speaker 1: but he's close to it, and he's getting beat off
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, like he's thinking instead of just
Speaker 1: reacting and playing. And I just I don't know, I
Speaker 1: you know what. And the other thing that's going to
Speaker 1: help out also is having Travis Frederick. They're still there
Speaker 1: helping in practice. Yeah, because those guys he was their guy, right,
Speaker 1: he was the leader of the band, and he's still
Speaker 1: there helping. And maybe he has a bigger voice now,
Speaker 1: yeah with Colombo there, and maybe he feels like he
Speaker 1: can say more. I don't know if these guys would
Speaker 1: admit it, but there might be some relief here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe they might be in their mind there
Speaker 1: might you know, Buddy will probably say the right thing,
Speaker 1: but but deep down inside, when they all get together
Speaker 1: for a state dinner, they'll say, you know what, it
Speaker 1: is on us, but you know what, let's let's let's
Speaker 1: listen to Mark let's figure out. You know, Mark is
Speaker 1: a hard nosed guy, and I just see I see
Speaker 1: him bringing a different attitude to this. I love watching
Speaker 1: I love watching Mark coach. I really just fourth year,
Speaker 1: fourth year on the staff here. He was hired as
Speaker 1: a coach here in twenty fifteen. He was here throughout
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen scouting before that too. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know we forgot about the scouting. Yeah, so you know.
Speaker 1: And the good thing is, normally it's very hard for
Speaker 1: a player to step off the field and into a
Speaker 1: coaching routine because you were buddy and now you're in charge.
Speaker 1: But he's had enough time span. But I mean when
Speaker 1: he last played till now, and I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: you gained some respect. But it's almost like he did
Speaker 1: an internship. Well, he didn't play with any of these
Speaker 1: guys except for Tyran for maybe a year, maybe tyrantson
Speaker 1: his last year. No, I don't even think that twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: think he left left was his last year here. His
Speaker 1: last year playing was with the Dolphins in twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: which would have been Tyrant's first year here. So he
Speaker 1: did scouting now, but he was he did play four
Speaker 1: Hudson Holk here. Yeah, right, So I just think I
Speaker 1: just think it's a better fit. Well, I think the
Speaker 1: room will be more Mickey's nailed it here. No, No,
Speaker 1: he's right, what's more relaxed? I don't know. That's the
Speaker 1: feeling you get around here after this move was made. However,
Speaker 1: the question I have and you played offensive line, is like,
Speaker 1: not very well, well you talked about consistency. Yeah, Do
Speaker 1: they just say scrap what you've learned in the last
Speaker 1: six months and say, let's go back to what we
Speaker 1: used to do. Can you do that on the fly?
Speaker 1: I mean, how how does that transition work? You know?
Speaker 1: I think I think you have one rookie guy. You
Speaker 1: have one rookie there left guard that probably will be
Speaker 1: a little bit shell shock to begin with. His heads
Speaker 1: are going to be swimming. But but he's also the
Speaker 1: good thing about this is Mark Colombo has been around
Speaker 1: these guys, so they they that he knows their deficiencies.
Speaker 1: You know, he knows Okay, they they're good at this,
Speaker 1: they're good at this. Okay, they're bad at this. They're
Speaker 1: bad at this. They're bad. He could at least work
Speaker 1: on the things, but scrap Yeah, I think that I
Speaker 1: think that you have to say listen, like the hand yet, listen,
Speaker 1: We're gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna teach you back at
Speaker 1: Mickey's talking about. I'm gonna get you back to malling, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you back to that two hand punch
Speaker 1: hands in side control feet all that. You know, That's
Speaker 1: where I think there's some pride in this group too.
Speaker 1: You know, I think I think this group is also
Speaker 1: looking at each other and saying, Okay, we just got
Speaker 1: coach fired, and say what you want. I mean, their
Speaker 1: play ultimately was not good enough for the owner and
Speaker 1: general manager. They had to make a decision or make
Speaker 1: a choice, and they made the choice to get rid
Speaker 1: of the coach. And that's on the players. And that
Speaker 1: is ultimately on the players. Now we talked about fits
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, but you know that that is
Speaker 1: a group they have to and hopefully they see this
Speaker 1: as an opportunity like okay, breath of fresh air, Mark
Speaker 1: in the room, Hud helping out. Oh this ought to
Speaker 1: be interesting. Now let's go out and play some football.
Speaker 1: If they don't do that, this season won't be good enough.
Speaker 1: This season will not be good enough. This this team
Speaker 1: will go on its offensive line. That's this is where
Speaker 1: it's like to going to get in a receiver. It's
Speaker 1: just like going to get in a receiver. The owner
Speaker 1: is trying to help the quarterback. He's trying to help
Speaker 1: the offense. He's trying to help the defense. Now he's
Speaker 1: trying to help the offensive line. He's trying to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I understand, I get it. We're not playing well enough.
Speaker 1: My assessment is not playing well enough because of the
Speaker 1: offensive line coach. I'm changing that guy out. He's doing
Speaker 1: everything he can to get this team in a position
Speaker 1: to compete, and if it's good enough, we'll see it.
Speaker 1: If it's not, then the evaluation starts at the end
Speaker 1: of the year. A quote from Jerry Jones from his
Speaker 1: radio show This Morning on the Fan, You're on the
Speaker 1: spot a little bit when either playing or coaching our
Speaker 1: offensive line, because that's an area we want to be
Speaker 1: a symbol of what this team is about. I'd say
Speaker 1: after seven games, we weren't getting the job done to
Speaker 1: the standard. Yeah, that's what Jerry said, and flat and
Speaker 1: you know what could have said that after week three,
Speaker 1: Week four, it was obvious. Yeah, everybody wanted to come
Speaker 1: up with a narrative that the quarterback can't read the field,
Speaker 1: the quarterback can't throw straight. You know, you gotta go
Speaker 1: for it on fourth and one in Houston because this
Speaker 1: team is built on the offensive line. The offensive line
Speaker 1: is the strength of the team. Well, the offensive line
Speaker 1: wouldn't get it was not right, and you know, the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator suddenly doesn't know how to call plays. Well,
Speaker 1: the whole thing starts right there. And everybody avoided that.
Speaker 1: No one want to talk about then we didn't want
Speaker 1: to believe that. Yeah, I think that's I know, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to believe. There was too many people coming
Speaker 1: up with other stuff when you saw the root of
Speaker 1: the evil, and it was the offensive line not playing
Speaker 1: to the level we've been used to seeing. And the
Speaker 1: other thing. I don't know how long this is in play,
Speaker 1: this decision they made back dating back to last week,
Speaker 1: but the Washington game had to be the trigger for this,
Speaker 1: in large part because it's not just the past protection.
Speaker 1: It's I think Zeke's yards per carret's the second lowest
Speaker 1: he's had in his entire career, and against thirteen yards
Speaker 1: on ten carries. Yeah, and it's not all on him.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think and I didn't see a ton
Speaker 1: of you know, loading the box all the time either.
Speaker 1: I just think they got and Jason Garrett spoke to
Speaker 1: it last week. The communication upfront was better. They just
Speaker 1: got beat up front by a really good defensive line,
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, something's got a change. Several several
Speaker 1: Basically they were chump plays on offense got eliminated because
Speaker 1: of holding better old penalties as well. That was huge.
Speaker 1: That was on the line. All right, we're just getting
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Speaker 1: as the Cowboys get back to work. As I mentioned
Speaker 1: off the top, the players parking lot filling up with cars.
Speaker 1: This isn't still an optional day for the players to
Speaker 1: come up here and they officially get back to work tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Of course, they got a longer week this week at
Speaker 1: being a Monday night game tomorrow, so Wednesday will be
Speaker 1: like a Tuesday, Thursday will be like a Wednesday, and
Speaker 1: on and on. Another thing on the coaching staff change.
Speaker 1: There were so many changes made on the coaching staff
Speaker 1: and back in the January February the decision to hire
Speaker 1: Paul Alexander Overmark Colombo, Jason Garrett and everyone involved in
Speaker 1: the hiring process. There were promotions made from within the
Speaker 1: staff as well, Ben Bloom the linebackers coach. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, I mean Quinn, Yeah, Keith Quinn exactly. It
Speaker 1: gets promoted a special teams coordination. So it's not like
Speaker 1: this this staff or the the hierarchy here was immune
Speaker 1: from they want to hire from within two But they
Speaker 1: looked at Paul Alexander's got twenty four years experience at
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Mark Colombo with three years experience as a coach,
Speaker 1: and they decided to make that move. And they have
Speaker 1: quickly discovered sometimes this coaching higher stuff doesn't work. Look
Speaker 1: what that's going on in Cleveland right now exactly, and
Speaker 1: that's a head head coach, right. The only thing that'll
Speaker 1: probably is, yeah, you know, you make changes on the
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Okay, well you you only have available what's
Speaker 1: out there at that time. Sure, so there there are
Speaker 1: people that you may want to hire, but they're under
Speaker 1: contract with other teams and so there's a limited inventory
Speaker 1: of candidates. I'll say this, I'm gonna I'll ask you
Speaker 1: this question, Bill, because you've been in the broadcasting world
Speaker 1: for a long time. Are there other broadcasters, young broadcasters
Speaker 1: you look at that you would like to work at
Speaker 1: work with sure. I mean, do you have an idea? Yeah? See,
Speaker 1: that's that's my That's something that I always myself when
Speaker 1: I was involved. I took a great deal of pride
Speaker 1: in knowing who the guys were around the league and
Speaker 1: no one scouts and knowing minorities and knowing you know,
Speaker 1: I've had people. I've had people asked me from other
Speaker 1: teams because I do. And I'm not trying to brag
Speaker 1: or pat myself on the back, but I've had Really,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. Jeff Lourie knew nothing about Andy
Speaker 1: Reid until I told him about Andy Reid. He knew
Speaker 1: nothing about Andy Reid. I'd worked with Andy Reid, you know,
Speaker 1: I'd known Andy Reid for a long time. I knew
Speaker 1: what kind of coach he was, so I mean, that
Speaker 1: was an easy one for me. Andy was a quarterback coach,
Speaker 1: tied inline coach, all that stuff. You know, He's a
Speaker 1: guy that deserved an opportunity to be a head coach.
Speaker 1: And you look, but I think that we all in
Speaker 1: our profession to have people in mind, you know, and
Speaker 1: shame on them if they didn't have, you know, a guy,
Speaker 1: there are two that they said, you know what, and
Speaker 1: you're right, guys are under contract and stuff, but they're
Speaker 1: also opportunities, you know. I remember John Harbaugh was a
Speaker 1: special team's coach at you were of Indiana when we
Speaker 1: got him as a special teams coach in Philadelphia. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's guys. You have lists of guys you'd like to
Speaker 1: work with, and I'd like to hope that they had
Speaker 1: the same kind of thing going here. They just made
Speaker 1: a mistake, like Mickey was saying, with the fit and
Speaker 1: and I agree with him one hundred percent that to me,
Speaker 1: was not a good fit for this organization. I've never
Speaker 1: understood whether it's a college football, high school of whatever
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, if you're in a position to make hires, okay, right,
Speaker 1: and you have to anticipate that you're a head coach
Speaker 1: or you're, in this case an offensive line coach, right,
Speaker 1: they make a move to and you need to have
Speaker 1: a handful of candidates that you these are guys that
Speaker 1: I would want, and so you're always looking for that
Speaker 1: those type people out there. I've never understood the search
Speaker 1: committees and people will throw and yeah, you're right, if
Speaker 1: if an athletic director has to hire a search committee,
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to be exactly. He doesn't need to
Speaker 1: be your ad because his responsibility his responsibility. But what
Speaker 1: does will McClay always have? He has a short list
Speaker 1: for personnel roster wise, yea, something happens to abc D
Speaker 1: exactly whether and that's whether his running back gets hurt
Speaker 1: or his third string tackle offensive tackle gets hurt. He's
Speaker 1: got to have a list of guys or he loses
Speaker 1: his Midwest scout. That's right, you know you got the list,
Speaker 1: and that's why he brings in guys for workouts. Last week. Everybody, well,
Speaker 1: why didn't they Why didn't they hire these guys or
Speaker 1: why they sign them? Yeah, it's like, well, okay, but
Speaker 1: when I'm doing my research, you know, I've always uh god,
Speaker 1: I wish I can tell you how many sports editors
Speaker 1: I've had over in the years, and they've changed, right,
Speaker 1: and the new guy comes in and and he wants
Speaker 1: all his own people. Yeah, Well, the key thing is
Speaker 1: can you come in and take what you get, becau
Speaker 1: as you don't always get your own people right. You know,
Speaker 1: they're maybe they don't want to move, maybe they don't
Speaker 1: they don't like you as much as you like them.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair. No, But you got to work with
Speaker 1: what you got. You can't just you know, and I
Speaker 1: think that's always important. Now, just rab boy, are you laughing?
Speaker 1: I just there as a sports editor. Two you didn't
Speaker 1: like so much, I can give you about five or six.
Speaker 1: The shorter list would be the ones that really knew
Speaker 1: what they were doing over the years. That's right, all right?
Speaker 1: Alan is not Ra You're next up here on Talking Cowboys. Hello, Alan,
Speaker 1: Good morning, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my call. I want
Speaker 1: to make a comment or two and then ask a question,
Speaker 1: and I guess the couple of comments are. I do
Speaker 1: commend the Cowboy organization for trying to address the different
Speaker 1: issues that we are all concerned about about why the
Speaker 1: offense hasn't been functioning as it should, and to go
Speaker 1: out and get a number one receiver to now address
Speaker 1: the offensive line and the way that they're doing. I'm
Speaker 1: happy about that as a fan that they're taking action.
Speaker 1: But my question is and about Amari Cooper. I just
Speaker 1: want to say that I think the whether that's a
Speaker 1: great decision or a bad decision is going to be
Speaker 1: like any other draft pick. If we consider him a
Speaker 1: number one draft pick, a number four pick in the draft,
Speaker 1: If he performs like a number four pick in the
Speaker 1: first round, I think we'll all be happy that we
Speaker 1: got a wide receiver at number four, whether that pick
Speaker 1: came this year or three years ago. If he doesn't
Speaker 1: perform like that number one pick, I think we're all
Speaker 1: going to be upset that we don't have a number
Speaker 1: one draft choice next year. But my question is about
Speaker 1: I need your guys expert opinion on what you're seeing
Speaker 1: about Dak Prescott. If we come back to the quarterback,
Speaker 1: they've addressed the offensive line. Now they're addressing the receivers
Speaker 1: when it comes to the quarterback play. And Mickey asked
Speaker 1: that question a couple of times. You know, what's the
Speaker 1: difference between Dak Prescott now and through the first year
Speaker 1: and a half of his career? And I know, when
Speaker 1: I go back, I think about his decision making in
Speaker 1: the pocket. Ever since that middle of the year, ever
Speaker 1: since that Atlanta game and some other games, he definitely
Speaker 1: seemed to be from the casual fans perception, quite rattled.
Speaker 1: And when he gets back in the pocket and the
Speaker 1: pressure starts coming in around him, this is when it
Speaker 1: looks to me like he's really not performing like an
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback needs to And the question that Brian, you
Speaker 1: watch so much tape, what I'm wondering is do you
Speaker 1: see a guy who isn't making NFL quarterback decisions that
Speaker 1: you need to be able to do under pressure or
Speaker 1: is it more that he's rattled that he is just
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and looking around too much and he can't find
Speaker 1: the open receivers. And that's what I can tell, sit
Speaker 1: and get home from my couch. What the bigger problem
Speaker 1: there is? So I would really love to hear your
Speaker 1: opinion on that. All right, thanks, Alan. I think the
Speaker 1: owner answered one of your questions why he's looking around
Speaker 1: if guys aren't immediately open, I mean, they wouldn't have
Speaker 1: gone and spent a first round pick on a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: And and you know the other thing, would they have
Speaker 1: just gotten any receiver or was this something they thought
Speaker 1: they could take advantage of, Like if Amari Cooper wasn't available,
Speaker 1: were they traded for somebody else? Thomas, Yeah, yeah, thirty
Speaker 1: one years old. Yeah, I wouldn't given up a first round.
Speaker 1: So the question is did they see something they thought
Speaker 1: they could take advantage of for not only now but
Speaker 1: the future, that maybe he was good enough and this
Speaker 1: is my guy, he's twenty four years old. Or would
Speaker 1: they have traded for a Larry Fitzgerald, Not that he
Speaker 1: was available or will be available, but would you have
Speaker 1: done that a guy that as at the end of
Speaker 1: his career. So I think they just saw an opportunity
Speaker 1: to try to take advantage of, not necessarily going, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I gotta have somebody and give up a
Speaker 1: first round pick. I think it had to availability and
Speaker 1: need had to coincide, and the skill set was a
Speaker 1: fit for what they needed. But there's a reason why
Speaker 1: the guy's looking around in the pocket, right yeah and rattle. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you got hit forty six times and taken down
Speaker 1: twenty three times, do the math, that's seventy that's seventy
Speaker 1: hits on your quarterback. That's way too many. I actually
Speaker 1: give him credit for hanging in there and trying to
Speaker 1: make plays when he's getting hit a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: this last game was an example. He kept hanging in there,
Speaker 1: and the protection finally kind of cleared up those last
Speaker 1: two drives in old Lo and behold, they're in position
Speaker 1: to go tie the game. That's why that stupid next
Speaker 1: gen stat is bs about. Oh he's had the best protection.
Speaker 1: He gets three point zero zero or whatever seconds. Well,
Speaker 1: the reason is is because he's got to hang in
Speaker 1: there for forever loving time just to try to get
Speaker 1: a pass off to somebody. What's his biggest fault? If
Speaker 1: you had to just pick one, holds the ball too long?
Speaker 1: All the real good? Why is he holding the ball
Speaker 1: too long? Now, we just went to his instincts, his instincts,
Speaker 1: so he didn't have he he had instincts in a
Speaker 1: rookie year, and he had instincts his first eight games
Speaker 1: last year, and suddenly those instincts have gone away. No,
Speaker 1: that was as big as fault coming out of school
Speaker 1: was that he held the ball too long thirteen and three.
Speaker 1: So it was the fourth round pick thirteen and three.
Speaker 1: I I understand that. No, but you can overcome it. Bill,
Speaker 1: What do you got? I mean, what's this? What do
Speaker 1: you if you had to if you? I mean, if
Speaker 1: you I mean, I'm not trying to blast the guy.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if we could work on one thing,
Speaker 1: you know, And and and Mickey's right that the guy
Speaker 1: he's I give him in Rob you're right too, I
Speaker 1: give the guy credit. There's there should be a lot
Speaker 1: more secks. How many he's escaped a lot of bad situation.
Speaker 1: He's he's perfected that spin move he have, he's he's gone.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get thrown from different platforms. Maybe you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's. Yeah. He seems to be the type that
Speaker 1: he needs to have his feet. He has to have
Speaker 1: the proper technique in order to throw accurate passes, and
Speaker 1: so he needs a clean pocket, okay, and so it
Speaker 1: helps ninety eight percent, right exactly? I mean yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we saw it even in his rookie year. Remember
Speaker 1: the game against the Eagles in mid season. He was
Speaker 1: not sharp and he let him back in that game. Sure,
Speaker 1: but he was able to and it leads to one
Speaker 1: of his greatest strengths his competitiveness. His competitiveness, and he
Speaker 1: will work at it too. He's got tremendous desires and
Speaker 1: there's no question at that. But it is a desire
Speaker 1: and a willingness in practice to work on his his
Speaker 1: put placement and so forth, you know, and his technique
Speaker 1: in order to correct an issue. But he's not he
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to me to be a natural passer passer,
Speaker 1: you know, in a lot of ways, I like, for instance,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not fair to compare toive mahomes, but
Speaker 1: you see, the home is not a natural pastor. Though
Speaker 1: if you look like the way he he's more of
Speaker 1: a street ball guy. He is a very street ball game,
Speaker 1: you know, yea, and Dak is not so much, although
Speaker 1: I'm seeing signs it. I think he's improving along those lines.
Speaker 1: And even against Washington, I thought that that was one
Speaker 1: of his better games as far as being able to
Speaker 1: throw off different platforms and so forth. And are we
Speaker 1: just asking him to do something he just might not
Speaker 1: be capable of doing. But again, I think he's improven
Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, it kind of gets back to what
Speaker 1: Garrett was talking about. Yeah, I go back to what
Speaker 1: you said before, and I agree with you. I don't
Speaker 1: expect Dak to be a three hundred yard passers. I
Speaker 1: don't think that every game. Think. I think what worked
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen is what Bounced needs to work for.
Speaker 1: But you know, you could say that about, like you said,
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the league. There's a small handful of guys,
Speaker 1: and we watched a few of them the other day.
Speaker 1: They're in the bye week. Just put it on my shoulder.
Speaker 1: I'll do it, you know, I think and maybe some
Speaker 1: of this too is Wilson right now, that's another one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dak's in that group that you know, you need to
Speaker 1: support and casts around you. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's necessarily a huge criticism, that's just that's just kind
Speaker 1: of a fact for most quarterbacks in the NFL. Jim
Speaker 1: Jim McMahon won a Super Bowl. Yeah, he was not
Speaker 1: a pure passer, right, he was kind of was my
Speaker 1: next point where he's kind of yeah, you know, Alex
Speaker 1: Smith is that's one of his greatest trips time and too.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's thrown for over two hundred yards
Speaker 1: the last many weeks, but he's won in the league.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and a lot of games. Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we last week we were we were talking about
Speaker 1: he's like the third winning is quarterback in the regular
Speaker 1: season since twenty twelve in the league. I think this
Speaker 1: guy depends on so much around him. I just think
Speaker 1: that's the I think that's the biggest thing. I think
Speaker 1: that's why the owner of general manager did what he
Speaker 1: did to try and get the receiver, because he knows
Speaker 1: how dependent this quarterback is. That the quarterback's not going
Speaker 1: to be technique sound. You know, he's gonna have his
Speaker 1: fault standing in the pocket and not seeing everything and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. He needs help. He needs guys that
Speaker 1: can get open. So who doesn't. No, I'm saying though,
Speaker 1: him more than others, him more than others. Go back
Speaker 1: and watch the documentary we did on Dak Prescott. We
Speaker 1: have the war room footage of the conversation that they
Speaker 1: were having when they drafted him, and the conversation was
Speaker 1: how is he Jerry asked Jason, how is he different
Speaker 1: than these other quarterbacks? And he said the difference between
Speaker 1: him and Jason said, the difference between him and Jared
Speaker 1: Goff is Jared Goff is about a second and a
Speaker 1: half faster in his release in the NFL. That's a
Speaker 1: big deal. And then Jerry asked, well, how do we
Speaker 1: compensate for that? And then he said, whoa, we have
Speaker 1: a running game. We do this play action stuff, like
Speaker 1: we look at what Caroline is doing with Cam Newton
Speaker 1: and some of these other running quarterbacks, and that'll be
Speaker 1: our plan. And then Jerry's like, let's do it. So
Speaker 1: that was the plan all along. It was for him
Speaker 1: to utilize him in other ways. Other than just be
Speaker 1: a pocket passer. Very good, King Garrison. Let's go back
Speaker 1: and watch that. That's good. Yeah, check it out. Oh
Speaker 1: yeah I did. Yeah, check it out the documentary. Now,
Speaker 1: I just I just you know, I'm kind of I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of feel like he is what he is.
Speaker 1: I think he's always going to work hard. I think
Speaker 1: he's always going to compete. I think he's gonna make
Speaker 1: some incredible plays with his feet and you know, him
Speaker 1: throwing on the move. But maybe we're asking him to
Speaker 1: be something that he's not. Well, think think about it.
Speaker 1: How many guys in the league have that the quick
Speaker 1: release of a Jared Goff or an Aaron Rodgers or
Speaker 1: a Drew Brees. I mean, how many of Tom Brady?
Speaker 1: I mean, how many of those are there in the league. Well,
Speaker 1: think about even with a quick release, how do you
Speaker 1: keep Drew Brees from throwing for two hundred yards Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings through for one hundred and something. Ye first time
Speaker 1: in like one hundred years. How did the Cowboys when
Speaker 1: they beat New Orleans, how did they beat him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they beat up Drew. They breed up Drew Brees. Right,
Speaker 1: that's the key. So if you keep a clean pocket,
Speaker 1: all these little faults go away. Yeah right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's pretty simple. You know, we don't have to
Speaker 1: come up with stuff. Yeah, everybody thinks Eli Manning's done,
Speaker 1: and you know he's down. He's through three yards. I
Speaker 1: got beat. He's on the downslope of his career. Obviously
Speaker 1: he's approaching forty years old. But if he had more
Speaker 1: protection with those weapons, I think he might be there'd
Speaker 1: be an entirely different narrative in New York. Right now,
Speaker 1: what did he get sacked Sunday? Was like five or
Speaker 1: six times? He threw for three hundred yards. Washington Howard
Speaker 1: was Jared Goff before they redid their offensive line. Well,
Speaker 1: they got changed Curly and a bunch of receivers, but
Speaker 1: they also got Andrew Whitworth at left tack. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: went out and they went out and changed that all up.
Speaker 1: They got they got rid of Jeff Fisher, which really helped. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Bedlam's it's in Norman. That didn't matter. You guys lost
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State in Norman when Bob Stoops came a second
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Speaker 1: caused the no no, What happened at the end of
Speaker 1: the game. Punted, they ran motion? What did they do? They? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. What they set off? They set up in
Speaker 1: punt formation and then they and no one was down
Speaker 1: in a three point stance. Otherwise it would have been
Speaker 1: a penalty automatically, I mean, none of the offense, not
Speaker 1: none of the offensive simon. But what they did They
Speaker 1: then all rushed to the line of scrimmage like they
Speaker 1: were going to run a play. And um they said
Speaker 1: it was in the in the official and so Texas player,
Speaker 1: I guess, jump jumped, and um the officials said it
Speaker 1: was a legal play. But what Texas contended was the
Speaker 1: right guard for OSU made a move simulating a snap
Speaker 1: whatever he made, he moved to his left when all
Speaker 1: that happened. And so once again it's officials. Mickey know better,
Speaker 1: and so it should not have been it should have
Speaker 1: been a false start. It should have been a false start.
Speaker 1: False Texas got screwed on the play and then Osu
Speaker 1: I think maybe scored on that possession. Whatever. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Tom Herman went ballistic more than one time in that game.
Speaker 1: That's better than the coaches getting at each other. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, We've got Palmer in Georgia. Next up, I'm
Speaker 1: talking cowboys. Hello Palmer, Hello, gentlemen, how are you great? Good? Hey,
Speaker 1: here's I'm a Chasmal observer. Right, but here's my stuff
Speaker 1: on Dak Prescott. I've owned restaurants for years, and with
Speaker 1: hiring people and training people, one thing you have to
Speaker 1: have in the restaurant business is a sense of urgency.
Speaker 1: And I've come to find out the hard way urgency
Speaker 1: is not something you can train. And I would assume
Speaker 1: that anticipation is not something you can train either. I
Speaker 1: think you have anticipation in urgency or you don't. And
Speaker 1: if you look at Dak Prescott's throwing charts, you don't
Speaker 1: see anything in the middle. There's no crossing route, there's nothing,
Speaker 1: no deep end slants, and that's Brian. Isn't that anticipation
Speaker 1: to be able to throw the ball twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: yards to a receiver in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: Don't you have to anticipate the throw? Yeah, you do,
Speaker 1: but you also have to anticipate when the guy makes
Speaker 1: his break. There's going to be some separation there, understood,
Speaker 1: And I'm really excited that we have Cooper because we're
Speaker 1: about to find that out right. Sure, absolutely, If you
Speaker 1: get to this game and you see separation there, but
Speaker 1: you don't see the accurate and the anticipation, then then
Speaker 1: you've then you've done your your due diligence. You now
Speaker 1: figured that out. And then my next question with with
Speaker 1: Colombo is last the last game against Washington, I saw
Speaker 1: one top sweep the whole game to Zekiel and went
Speaker 1: into the boundary. Yeah, I went to the boundary. Are
Speaker 1: we going to see more wide runs, some top sweeps,
Speaker 1: hopefully to the white side? And with that, I'll get
Speaker 1: off and listen. I appreciate all you guys. Do want
Speaker 1: some holding calls shop block? Do you want tight ends
Speaker 1: getting compressed? You know? That was another problem that they had.
Speaker 1: If you if you can't capture the edge, it's hard
Speaker 1: to run the ball on the edge. And that's been
Speaker 1: a little bit of an issue. But do have lineman
Speaker 1: that can get out in space? You do. They were
Speaker 1: better on the move. They are better on the move,
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. But remember what kind of
Speaker 1: def defense Washington plays. Three to four, they got five
Speaker 1: guys on the line of scrimmage, big defensive ends. It's
Speaker 1: hard to get on the outside. Yeah, it was. It was.
Speaker 1: I gotta give Preston Smith and and Carrying a lot
Speaker 1: of credit. You know, they they do. You know, those
Speaker 1: are two really good players. We knew that going into
Speaker 1: the game. You know, this challenge this week will be
Speaker 1: just as you know, just the same, you know, with
Speaker 1: with with what Tennessee presents this journal Casey who plays
Speaker 1: like as a defensive tackle. He's just as disruptive as
Speaker 1: any guys I've seen this year. So most underrated players
Speaker 1: in the league, there's no question about that, no question
Speaker 1: about that. Derek Morgan's a good player. I mean, they've
Speaker 1: got some guys up front. The Cowboys are going to
Speaker 1: have their hands full. You know, if they don't block
Speaker 1: this front, Brian or Rock Poe is part of this, uh,
Speaker 1: this team. So yeah, it's gonna be about they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to find a way to get some push, especially
Speaker 1: if they're gonna run the ball on the edges, and
Speaker 1: a little bit, not a little bit. A lot of
Speaker 1: it has to do with the way that the tackles
Speaker 1: and the tight ends have have handled that right now.
Speaker 1: It just hasn't been good enough. And you know, we've
Speaker 1: we've I shouldn't say. It seems like to me that
Speaker 1: on the road again, they've had the more problems running
Speaker 1: the football than they have at home. We've seen them
Speaker 1: run the ball in the edges with some success. I
Speaker 1: felt like in the Lions game they had some success
Speaker 1: running the football. I felt like in the Jacksonville game
Speaker 1: they had some success running the ball in the edge.
Speaker 1: But when they've gone on the road, it just has
Speaker 1: not materialized like it needs to. And a lot of
Speaker 1: it has to do with what's going on as a
Speaker 1: point of attack blocking. Okay, does it have to do
Speaker 1: with the opponent opponent's good, no question. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm all right, I'm hearing this this excuse whatever it
Speaker 1: is that they're playing on the road and it's different whatever,
Speaker 1: It's not that different. No, the opponent's been very very
Speaker 1: good defensive. The defensive they played if have been better,
Speaker 1: and everybody thought Jacksonville was it right, Well they're still
Speaker 1: did they lose, They're not. They did, they did. Jacksonville's
Speaker 1: defense was very good going in this game. They still
Speaker 1: have a good personnel, and to me, that gives that's
Speaker 1: impressive what they were able to do. I'm giving them
Speaker 1: credit for it, but I'm just saying that that kind
Speaker 1: of debunks the trend. For me, it's all about who
Speaker 1: they're facing on the road, because I still am very
Speaker 1: impressed with what they did against Jacksonville. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't can't put my finger on why it's different
Speaker 1: on the road. I really don't. Because crowd noise. You know,
Speaker 1: the run game is supposed to travel, you know, it's
Speaker 1: really not supposed to be that much. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: um so if the other guys are better than you,
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't travel. I think they took advantage of
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's aggressiveness on defense. I thought that's what they needed
Speaker 1: to do going into the game. We talked about that.
Speaker 1: I felt like they needed to take advantage of their
Speaker 1: aggressives and the lighter linebackers for sure, right, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they were able to do that. Good for them. You
Speaker 1: gotta win. It was like everybody everybody was, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of well not everybody but Drew Locke was getting
Speaker 1: sacked by Kentucky. Yeah. Well, guess who was doing Guess
Speaker 1: who was doing the don't start, guess who was in
Speaker 1: the sacking. The guy from Kentucky that's leading the SEC
Speaker 1: in sacks. Yeah, he got two. There's a reason why
Speaker 1: he gives us a name. I can't remember the guy's name.
Speaker 1: I've seen that I got to help the draft show,
Speaker 1: and he's Mickey's right. Though. Mickey's right about the player.
Speaker 1: Guy's pretty good. I haven't seen him yet. I've watched
Speaker 1: several players, but I haven't seen this Kentucky defensive end
Speaker 1: that's been outstanding. I don't know if he's all right.
Speaker 1: Named two Kentucky football players who have made it in
Speaker 1: the NFL Randall Cobb, but I'll give you one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's another one who's a high draft pick still still
Speaker 1: plays in the in the NFL. No, it's still plays
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Antonio, who's an edge Rusher, Walter McCarty,
Speaker 1: bud Dupree Dupre. Yeah, yeah, that's right, So they're the
Speaker 1: next bud Dupree Kentucky. Yeah. Okay, all right, let's go
Speaker 1: to Joe Joe in Maryland. You're next up. I'm talking Cowboys, Joe.
Speaker 1: How's it going, guy? Um. I was at the game
Speaker 1: and landover and I had a front row view of
Speaker 1: seeing our quarterback run for his life. I'm also we'll
Speaker 1: be at the game this Monday night in Dallas, so
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to come down. Last time I got
Speaker 1: to meet Mickey. Hopefully I can get to meet mister
Speaker 1: Brian brought us. But to uh get to my point,
Speaker 1: I really like to move with Amari Cooper. But on
Speaker 1: all of the shows and all of these social media,
Speaker 1: it seems to be like everyone thinks that our offense
Speaker 1: is a run first offense, which I think is focus
Speaker 1: because we no longer have that two thousand and sixteen
Speaker 1: offensive line. This offensive line is terrible. Besides Zack Martin,
Speaker 1: I would like to see it get back to similar
Speaker 1: to the twenty fourteen, which was more balanced, where you
Speaker 1: had an eighteen hundred yard rusher man wide receiver on
Speaker 1: the on the edge. So I was wondering if you
Speaker 1: guys think that was adding Cooper or that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will be more more frequently able to throw it down
Speaker 1: the field and get some heat off the Z And
Speaker 1: I'll hang up and listen and hopefully I get to
Speaker 1: see all you guys on Monday night. Thank you. All right, Joe,
Speaker 1: We'll look for you. How do you think defenses are
Speaker 1: going to play them? Cooper again? A manam you know
Speaker 1: what I need to feel. I need to go back
Speaker 1: and really study this and see and we talk about
Speaker 1: how really stacked. I think the linebackers have been playing tighter.
Speaker 1: I think that safeties have been playing near the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. You know, if you're a Cowboy fan and
Speaker 1: the team, you got to hope that you can back
Speaker 1: some people out of there. But you got to prove
Speaker 1: to them you can make some throws, right, you know
Speaker 1: you gotta And I know you were talking about just
Speaker 1: air the damn thing out and go for it. I'm
Speaker 1: with you on that. I'm also though the previous the
Speaker 1: call before was talking about the end routes and the
Speaker 1: cuts and things like that. Yeah, I'm all for if
Speaker 1: you can get the ball down the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: I think that would be I think that would be
Speaker 1: very helpful. But I also think that watching Tennessee play,
Speaker 1: they really struggle when they play his zone defense. They
Speaker 1: give up some big plays. When they play zone, they
Speaker 1: give up some big plays. Now I'll tell you another
Speaker 1: thing they give up. They give up some long passes
Speaker 1: playing man. People have taken shot me. In the last
Speaker 1: three games Chargers Baltimore Philly those games I watched, every
Speaker 1: team has taken a shot down the field and hit
Speaker 1: a play. The Chargers opened the game in London with
Speaker 1: the pass that was for a touchdown on a deep
Speaker 1: on a deep ball, you know, against a Dory Jackson.
Speaker 1: So this team is going to offer the opportunity to
Speaker 1: make some plays down the field. Are you good enough
Speaker 1: to do it? That's the question you have to And
Speaker 1: if they're not, then it's going to be another one
Speaker 1: of those tight games. It's gonna come down to the
Speaker 1: bitter end. But this team will allow you to make
Speaker 1: some plays. And I think that Amari Cooper can make
Speaker 1: some plays. You know, if you go back and watch
Speaker 1: this guy play against Tennessee last year when they opened
Speaker 1: the season, he made plays a lot of the same
Speaker 1: eyes out here in coverage. Malcolm Butler's a little bit different.
Speaker 1: He's from New England. But still, I mean, they've got
Speaker 1: to prove to people they can complete some passes before
Speaker 1: they do anything. Have you liked taking a close look
Speaker 1: at Tennessee's defense? How do they play their corners? They
Speaker 1: can say they when they play zone, they're they're a disaster.
Speaker 1: Who's playing? They've used a lot of Yeah, they've used
Speaker 1: a lot of different Dory Jackson has been off and
Speaker 1: on as a starter, Logan Ryan has been off and
Speaker 1: on as a player there, and Butler's been playing as well.
Speaker 1: They've got an They've got a guy they're safety. Kevin
Speaker 1: Bayard is good. He said he's a good player. And
Speaker 1: you know they got Kenny Veakaro now yeah, and he
Speaker 1: has not been playing. He's been banged up. They've been
Speaker 1: using they've been using Kendrick Lewis at safety in his spot,
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been very good. There's some places to
Speaker 1: be made against this group. You just got to go
Speaker 1: out there and make some plays against these guys. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, If you don't, then, like I said, get
Speaker 1: ready for a nineteen to seventeen game. Trying to drive
Speaker 1: the ball to kick a field goal to win the
Speaker 1: damn thing. Who do they play in the slot? The
Speaker 1: slot will be Jackson's been playing in the slot because Butler,
Speaker 1: Butler and U Ryan Logan Ryan had been playing and
Speaker 1: then Jackson was the starter. He's against the but against
Speaker 1: the Chargers, he was the slot player. Dorry Jackson was
Speaker 1: a slot player. And he's a really quick footed guy,
Speaker 1: and he's kind of a little bit of a gambler,
Speaker 1: and the way he plays, he will pick off some passes,
Speaker 1: but he will also miss some place too. But every
Speaker 1: team that I watched has opened the game with a
Speaker 1: shot down the field against this guys. And it started
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia. And I wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: immediately opened this thing up and take a shot down
Speaker 1: the field to see they did it against the Michael
Speaker 1: Gallop both at Gallop and let get vertical on and
Speaker 1: then use and use Cooper the way you need to
Speaker 1: use Cooper inside and and and and you know, hit
Speaker 1: some play. They just need to get some confidence that
Speaker 1: they could throw the ball successfully down the field. And this,
Speaker 1: hopefully Amari Cooper brings that to this group. Hopefully Mickey's
Speaker 1: offensive line can get a little bit better protection, so
Speaker 1: you guys not getting hit in the face as he's
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. They're at home. All's well, all's well,
Speaker 1: at home, calling to w here in the gut, feeling already, Yeah,
Speaker 1: why not? Okay? The early prediction by Rob Phillips and
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