WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Turning Point Up Front? 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:05.000 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:16.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:20.200 Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hears at the 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:31.560 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:37.000 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. The players parking lot here 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:39.680 at the Star in Presco is starting to fill up 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.760 with cars. It's time to get back to work it is. 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.000 We're past the bye week. Now it's time for the Titans. 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.880 And this is Talking Cowboys. Bill Jones along with Brian 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:54.680 brought us, Rob Phillips, Mickey Spagnola, Kim Garrison taking your 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.520 phone calls, and we will take your phone calls today 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.319 as there's lots to get to eight eight, eight, five, 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.360 two two nine seven. And of course we were here 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.640 yesterday wrapping up the weekend and then later in the 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.320 day yesterday the Cowboys break some news as they get 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.200 set to start their work week here at the Star. 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.199 As a change has been made on the coaching staff. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.920 Paul Alexander is out and Mark Colombo promoted from assistant 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.000 offensive line coach too offensive line coach, and Hudson Howk 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.800 is coming back of course, the forty year or so 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.960 veteran of coaching is coming back. He was with the 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.960 Cowboys from ninety three to one and then again from 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.720 eight to through the twenty eleven season, and he's going 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.120 to be an advisor on the staff. We'll see how 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:44.280 what his role actually will be once we start seeing 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.200 some practices out there and so forth. But let's get 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.440 some initial reaction right off the top. Rob you want 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:55.000 to start, something had to change up front. I think 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.760 we've talked about it at nauseum. Really that everything starts 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:00.280 up front. If you want to talk about out the 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.440 passing game not making plays downfield consistently, the running game 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:08.480 not being consistent. Mary Cooper coming in can help, but 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.040 you gotta have time, you gotta have pass protection. You 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.280 got open holes. And they decided to go at the 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.639 top in terms of coaching staff and make a move 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.960 with Paul Alexander and see if that can change. Now 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.640 the question is what changes with him coming in. Do 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.600 they just go back to what they used to do 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.160 in terms of techniques and things that they've worked in 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:30.120 the past. We'll see, but this is two o line changes, 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.600 coaching changes in the last two years. So regardless of 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.239 who's involved there. They've got to figure out what the 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.200 differences between the road and AT and T Stadium because 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.720 at and T Stadum has been okay, it's it's it's 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:44.480 fixing what's been the issue on the road. And I 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.160 think what happened when the running game, specifically against Washington 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.160 was really alarming. Let's say that was a big concern. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.040 Ye I'm gonna let you finish, Okay. I want to 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.920 go with Mickey next because I want to give the 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.760 proper introduction to Brian here in just a second. So Mickey, 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.600 your initial reaction. We gotta reason for this, Okay. I 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.800 would just wonder what proper? Was nothing proper with this group. 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.640 I think we kind of beat around the bush last 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:16.400 week about this possibility and a possibility to me and 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.959 I sensed it. It's like it just seemed to be 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:25.000 a bad fit. It was like a disconnect, and I 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.000 think they finally decided, Okay, we got to do something. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:34.600 We the last two road games, Zekiel Elliott ran the 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.680 ball thirty five times for eighty eight yards. Something one 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:42.240 working up front. They've Dak Prescott has been sacked twenty 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.720 three times. Only four teams in the league have given 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:51.880 up more sacks going into this past weekend, and three 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.360 of them were Buffalo, San Francisco and the Giants, and 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:59.040 those teams, Buffalo has the most wins of all those 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.760 three teams two. The fourth team was Houston, and I 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.680 believe they suffered seven sacks in one game before the 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:10.960 Cowboys played him. So the average going into week eight 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:15.040 of the season, where teams were suffering sixteen point three 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:21.279 sacks to that point, Cowboys giving up twenty three and 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.320 they still got nine games to play. Figured out the 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:28.600 pace is fifty. Yeah, So I just think something had 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:32.280 to change up front. The guys were not playing, and 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.159 I'll just use Laylee Collins as an example. I know 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.640 Travis Frederick's not there, and I understand Joe Looney is 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.200 not Travis Frederick, and I understand about the rookie, but 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.239 Laal Collins was looking like he was getting it last 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.160 year the second half at right tackle, and I think 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.400 he regressed. Now why he grew regressed, I don't know, 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.800 but I think obviously they were looking for reasons why 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:01.200 this offense wasn't functioning. They brought into R Cooper and 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.080 then they made the change on the offensive line and Frankly, 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:08.080 I thought from the beginning that Mark Colombo should have 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.880 gotten the job. I thought he looked the part, he 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:16.000 sounded the part I think the players reacted to him. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.760 And the fact they brought in hud It's like, Okay, 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.840 Colombo's never had the room by himself, and maybe he 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.159 just needed a sounding board to bring in a guy 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:31.480 that you've been around for thirteen years over two different stints. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.119 So and it wasn't like they woke up Monday morning 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.880 and said, oh, let's do this, right, HUD's already here yea, yeah, 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.279 he was here yesterday. And we'll talk more about Hudson 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.840 here and just here just a second, okay, Brian, I 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.480 want to get your thoughts on the change. But also 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.279 you've have a unique attire today. Yeah, just before we 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.320 get started, though, I know we have a lot of 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.840 fans in the UK and you know, tragedy happened for 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.080 one of our We have a lot of fans in 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.159 Leicester City, in London, all over Europe really, but I 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.760 just wanted us to know that, you know, we're thinking 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:11.000 with our English side in Leicester City. You know, they 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:15.159 tragically lost their owner in a helicopter crash and you know, 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.520 Dan Turner is one of our great friends over there 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.240 who you know, we've really got to know, and he's 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.919 a long time Leicester City fan, and I just wanted 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.279 to know that all of us here we're thinking of 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.000 you guys. We love all you guys over there, and 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.560 we're sorry about your loss. So today I'll honor you 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.800 with the scarf and and hope that this getch you 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.800 guys through a little bit. And the sixty year old 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.400 owner of the team was one of one of five 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.320 people on board the aircraft when it burst into flames. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.760 If you're crashing in a parking lot next to King 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.920 Powers Stadium, I think after their match on Saturday, Yeah, 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.919 a statement described the chairman as a man of kindness, 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.680 of generosity, a man whose life was defined by the 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.680 love he devoted to his family and those he so 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.200 successfully led. I'm not about to try to pronounce. It's 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.760 very difficult online, but yeah, if, yeah, if you go 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.760 on line and listen to and read the story about 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.159 Leicester City and this is a team that was five 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:12.400 thousand to one to win the Premiere Championship, Premier League Championship, 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.080 and they did it a couple of years ago. It's 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.160 a it's a great story, greatest underdog story history of 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.360 traditional sports, honestly, but they're they're going through some tough 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.600 times right now with this loss. So we just want 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.440 to let everybody know here with you. Yeah, we're all 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.240 thinking about you over there, and that's why we're doing this. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.680 That's why were my shirt. I didn't think of it now, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.000 it just Dandy gave me one when we went over there, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.320 says Mickey on the back too. It does really where 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.840 tomorrow great we can kit um my thoughts on this, 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:42.960 and I think Micky hit the nail on the head. 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.440 I think Rob is very good with his assessment as well. 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.800 Now it's on the players. This is this is really 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.520 on the players that you know, we've we've talked about 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.840 throughout though that that they need to play better as 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.600 as an offensive line. They don't need to give up hits, 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.240 they don't need to give up pressures, they don't need 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.440 to give up sacks. They need to do better in 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.280 the running games. So Mark Colombo, I think we'll come 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.840 in and do an outstanding job. I think he's prepared. 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.480 I think he's ready. I think he has the respect 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.560 in that room. I like them bring in Hudson. How 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.600 long time guy Hudd will be a great sounding board 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.600 like Mickey's talking about. Had a chance to visit with 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.040 him yesterday. He's excited about being back and back and 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.600 potentially helping out here any way that he can. But 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.560 now this is on As Rob said, the last two years, 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.160 this team on the offensive line has had two different 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.560 offensive line coaches. Okay, you know you don't do that 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.640 unless you know you talk about what's going on. Is 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.160 there a fit? Is that the fact the players aren't responding? 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.200 You know? I think now that to me, there's really 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.400 not any excuse. There's not any excuse. You know, Mark 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.080 Colombo will get them prepared. Hudd will get them prepared. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.520 But now it's on Lyle Collins to be better. It 0:08:53.720 --> 0:09:00.120 is on Smithy Smith to be better. It's on Da 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.680 Martin to be better. This group is a very capable group. 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.920 They just have not played like a capable group right now. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.880 And I think that's the biggest problem I have. You 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.240 can change out the coach, you don't always get to 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.280 change out the players. I don't know if you necessarily 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.720 want to change out these players from what we've seen 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.600 in past. But I will put the ball now in 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.040 their court. They have got to find a way these 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.959 last nine weeks or so to play better as a unit, 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.920 find a way to protect the quarterback, run the football better, 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.800 and get this offense going to the level it needs 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.920 to play at so that they can make some type 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.080 of a run for the division and then get into 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.040 the playoffs. Because from a talent standpoint, there's a lot 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.160 of teams in the NFL that would take this this 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:45.240 group this talent, no question. But you know, Brian said 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.200 it again, Frank Paula got fired last year. Really for 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.120 those last eight games of the season, right, Dak got sacked. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.800 You know, Mickey pointed out the stats, thirty two sacks 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.240 for Dak last year. I think twenty two were in 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.839 the final eight games. And now you've got a seven 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.720 game stretch that's very s He's just not getting enough 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.760 protection and uh and when Zeke is not is kind 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.200 of on again, off again home road. Look, something has 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.959 to change because everything, the foundation of this offense is 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.800 what they do upfront. And that's why partly why they 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:16.920 kind of went with a committee at wide receiver to start, 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.559 because I think they felt like that, well, we can 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.360 control the line of scrimmage. Yes, it hasn't happened, at 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.560 least not consistently, and again not in those four losses 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:28.120 they've had away from home. You know, um, and I 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:33.360 agree with what all of you are saying. Colombo with 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.440 a candidate for the job back in the spring, and 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.280 I think one of the big things is recognizing quickly 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.839 that Okay, you made a mistake or whatever it might 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.640 however you want to term it, and go ahead and 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.240 make the move. And maybe they're making this move in 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.440 time to salvage what's going on. I think Nicky's absolutely right. 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.319 I thought it was a very odd fit considering that, 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.760 yeahs is what is Paul Alexander in his history and 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:04.240 Incinnati as far as his coaching technique and one of 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.440 them when everybody talks about what his the way the 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.880 hand placement thing was like high hand, low hand. You know, 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.240 they talk about zone blocking, power blocking, they talk about 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.280 all the different things that the changes that they've had 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.240 to make. They you know, this this one to me 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.080 and I need to dig a little bit further, but 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:27.280 you know, I felt like that that Jason's brother John 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.600 coach with Paul Alexander while they while he was at 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.800 Cincinnati and so you know, there's probably probably a connection 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.480 there as far as what's going on. So you know, 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.280 I was I was hopeful that Mark was going to 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.840 get this job. And I'm not looking at this as hindsight. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:44.959 I'm just thinking. I was trying to think of how 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.040 do you keep consistency, how do you keep and so 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.800 to come in and say, okay, and Mickey's right about 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:56.000 Lyle Collins. His his technique has gotten worse from last 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.160 year and I think a lot of it, and and 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.320 talking to a couple of players about it as well, 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.720 they were saying, the worst thing that could have happened 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.679 to Lyle Collins as they changed coaches, that's the worst 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.000 thing that could have happened him because now he was 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.560 having to think everything out, rethink it again. And even 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.960 Paul Alexander, if you go back and listen to his interview, 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:15.880 he's like, well, some guys get it and some guys 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.800 haven't got it. I think that interview last week to me, 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.160 if you go back and watch it on Dallas Cowboys 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.880 dot Com, I think it's very telling. I think it's 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.600 very telling that that, you know, and I'm not saying 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.839 he's going to rip his offensive line and say oh, 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:30.320 this and that, and you know, we have to do 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.960 this and do that, and you know Tyrn Smith's gradeni. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.920 I don't think you need to be a former NFL 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.160 scout or a writer or a TV man or anything 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.640 to see this offensive line wasn't playing well enough, just wasn't. 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.080 And you know, for him to stand up there and say, oh, no, 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.679 everything is okay. Yeah, it's kind of a big shoulder shrug. Yeah, 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.319 it's it's like, well, you know what they I just teach, 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.320 that's all I do. No, you're more than that. You're 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:54.959 more than that, you know, and find a way to 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.360 get this This group right here is at one time 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.199 was one of the top five lines in the league, 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.679 and right now they're not. They're not that and this 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.600 team and if you listen to the owner general manager 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:12.079 talk this morning, he expects a lot from this offensive line. 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.280 He expects the way that he has, the way he 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.760 used resources to get them, and the way the resources 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.320 he's used to pay them. He expects a lot. And 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.079 if it's not living up to his standards, then by 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.560 all means, make this change. But I agree with Mickey 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.079 though it was a very very bad fit to begin with, 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.400 because I think it compromised some of the development of 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.679 the guys you had that you were counting on. One 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.839 more stat that, Mickey, I don't know if you pointed 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.240 this one out. Dack's rookie year twenty five sacks the 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.800 entire season, and again, every sack that he takes is 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.640 not solely on the offensive line. Sometimes he's holding the 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.480 ball too long, yea, but or guy's not getting open. Yeah, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.000 there you go, covers sack or whatever. But that's that's 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.400 indicative of the shift we've seen with this old line 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.720 since twenty sixteen, when this was a dominant offense. See, 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.679 this is all new to us. I think. I think 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.920 this is new because we didn't expect and I'm sorry 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:06.880 I shouldn't speak for everybody. This is new to me 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.560 because I didn't expect this offensive line to have the 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.280 struggles that's having. I didn't expect them to go out 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.000 there and be the Oh, wait, they're giving up pressure, 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.600 or they're not running the ball. Oh they're not. You know, 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.160 I didn't expect it. I expected, you know, with the 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.000 loss with Travis Fredick, I was worried. I'm not gonna 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.840 sit here and act like I wasn't. I was worried help. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.080 But Joe Looney has not been the problem. Joe Looney 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.680 hasn't been the prompt. But as a group, they have 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.040 not played as well as I thought that they would play. 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.560 And I think that I think that's why you make 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.040 the change. I think that's why the front office said, no, 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.080 we need better from this group. And if it means 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.000 Mark Colombo coming in here and saying, all right, listen, guys, 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.000 I'm gonna try and do this for you. I'm gonna 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:47.800 try and help you with technique. I'm gonna try and 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.000 get you better. We're gonna think about things. We're gonna 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:51.960 go back to some of the things that were good 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.160 at you know. It's it's like Paul Oxander maybe said, hey, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:56.800 I want you guys to do it this way. For 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.400 twenty four years he did it that way, you know, 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.200 but maybe that doesn't work. Well. Obviously it doesn't work 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.760 with this group because the man lost his job, you know. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.360 And I didn't point it out, but in seven games, 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.400 the quarterback has also been hit forty six times. Yeah, 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.440 so let's do the math on that. They're not even 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.520 halfway through the season. He's on pace to get hit 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:22.600 a hundred times. Seriously, something's wrong. And I agree with 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.960 with Brian that you know, the guy's got to play better. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.920 But maybe there's a reason why they're not playing so aggressively. 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.480 And you know how many times have we seen you know, 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.520 I mean, Tyron Smith is not going to be perfect, 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.120 but he's close to it, and he's getting beat off 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.960 the line of scrimmage, like he's thinking instead of just 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:46.960 reacting and playing. And I just I don't know, I 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.320 you know what. And the other thing that's going to 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.120 help out also is having Travis Frederick. They're still there 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:58.760 helping in practice. Yeah, because those guys he was their guy, right, 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.600 he was the leader of the band, and he's still 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.000 there helping. And maybe he has a bigger voice now, 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.000 yeah with Colombo there, and maybe he feels like he 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.040 can say more. I don't know if these guys would 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.680 admit it, but there might be some relief here. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:13.880 I mean maybe they might be in their mind there 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.360 might you know, Buddy will probably say the right thing, 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.080 but but deep down inside, when they all get together 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.320 for a state dinner, they'll say, you know what, it 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.680 is on us, but you know what, let's let's let's 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.840 listen to Mark let's figure out. You know, Mark is 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.720 a hard nosed guy, and I just see I see 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:35.040 him bringing a different attitude to this. I love watching 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.000 I love watching Mark coach. I really just fourth year, 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.320 fourth year on the staff here. He was hired as 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.680 a coach here in twenty fifteen. He was here throughout 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:47.320 the twenty sixteen scouting before that too. Yeah, and uh, 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.480 you know we forgot about the scouting. Yeah, so you know. 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.680 And the good thing is, normally it's very hard for 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.400 a player to step off the field and into a 0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:02.160 coaching routine because you were buddy and now you're in charge. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.600 But he's had enough time span. But I mean when 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:10.399 he last played till now, and I think that, you know, 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.080 you gained some respect. But it's almost like he did 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.200 an internship. Well, he didn't play with any of these 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.280 guys except for Tyran for maybe a year, maybe tyrantson 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.040 his last year. No, I don't even think that twenty eleven, 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.399 think he left left was his last year here. His 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.199 last year playing was with the Dolphins in twenty eleven, 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.639 which would have been Tyrant's first year here. So he 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.560 did scouting now, but he was he did play four 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.800 Hudson Holk here. Yeah, right, So I just think I 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:39.959 just think it's a better fit. Well, I think the 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.840 room will be more Mickey's nailed it here. No, No, 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.359 he's right, what's more relaxed? I don't know. That's the 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.440 feeling you get around here after this move was made. However, 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.679 the question I have and you played offensive line, is like, 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.760 not very well, well you talked about consistency. Yeah, Do 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:00.000 they just say scrap what you've learned in the last 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.320 six months and say, let's go back to what we 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.200 used to do. Can you do that on the fly? 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.679 I mean, how how does that transition work? You know? 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.639 I think I think you have one rookie guy. You 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:13.439 have one rookie there left guard that probably will be 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.720 a little bit shell shock to begin with. His heads 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.720 are going to be swimming. But but he's also the 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.840 good thing about this is Mark Colombo has been around 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.919 these guys, so they they that he knows their deficiencies. 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.800 You know, he knows Okay, they they're good at this, 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:30.920 they're good at this. Okay, they're bad at this. They're 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.240 bad at this. They're bad. He could at least work 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.720 on the things, but scrap Yeah, I think that I 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:40.400 think that you have to say listen, like the hand yet, listen, 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.320 We're gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna teach you back at 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.040 Mickey's talking about. I'm gonna get you back to malling, guys, 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.600 I'm gonna get you back to that two hand punch 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:51.920 hands in side control feet all that. You know, That's 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.280 where I think there's some pride in this group too. 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:57.640 You know, I think I think this group is also 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:59.960 looking at each other and saying, Okay, we just got 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:04.280 coach fired, and say what you want. I mean, their 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.760 play ultimately was not good enough for the owner and 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.640 general manager. They had to make a decision or make 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.400 a choice, and they made the choice to get rid 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:17.439 of the coach. And that's on the players. And that 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.879 is ultimately on the players. Now we talked about fits 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.560 and all that stuff, but you know that that is 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:27.080 a group they have to and hopefully they see this 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:31.040 as an opportunity like okay, breath of fresh air, Mark 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.679 in the room, Hud helping out. Oh this ought to 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.000 be interesting. Now let's go out and play some football. 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:40.040 If they don't do that, this season won't be good enough. 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.359 This season will not be good enough. This this team 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:47.000 will go on its offensive line. That's this is where 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.480 it's like to going to get in a receiver. It's 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.680 just like going to get in a receiver. The owner 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.640 is trying to help the quarterback. He's trying to help 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.280 the offense. He's trying to help the defense. Now he's 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.879 trying to help the offensive line. He's trying to say, Okay, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.960 I understand, I get it. We're not playing well enough. 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:04.440 My assessment is not playing well enough because of the 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:08.360 offensive line coach. I'm changing that guy out. He's doing 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.200 everything he can to get this team in a position 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.359 to compete, and if it's good enough, we'll see it. 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.679 If it's not, then the evaluation starts at the end 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:19.760 of the year. A quote from Jerry Jones from his 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.520 radio show This Morning on the Fan, You're on the 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.680 spot a little bit when either playing or coaching our 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.399 offensive line, because that's an area we want to be 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:31.280 a symbol of what this team is about. I'd say 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.080 after seven games, we weren't getting the job done to 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.280 the standard. Yeah, that's what Jerry said, and flat and 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:41.200 you know what could have said that after week three, 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:45.639 Week four, it was obvious. Yeah, everybody wanted to come 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.800 up with a narrative that the quarterback can't read the field, 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.840 the quarterback can't throw straight. You know, you gotta go 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.119 for it on fourth and one in Houston because this 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.200 team is built on the offensive line. The offensive line 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:58.959 is the strength of the team. Well, the offensive line 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.080 wouldn't get it was not right, and you know, the 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.840 offensive coordinator suddenly doesn't know how to call plays. Well, 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:08.760