WEBVTT - Incubators For White Supremacy 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.480 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:20.000 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks. 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.959 You know, I want to start off today with talking 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.080 about what we are seeing unfold across the country as 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:37.880 it pertains to access to abortion. There is a profound 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:43.320 sense of cruelty that Republicans are rolling out that I 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.880 really do not think is being discussed in the manner 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.879 that it should be. So let me be very blunt 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:56.760 about what we are seeing and now, provided the Department 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:01.959 of Justice has finally decided to step in because of 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:07.880 what has been happening, that is just absolutely egregious. So basically, 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:14.800 all of these states are implementing their trigger laws and 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:19.680 are taking away any exception for the life and the 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.959 well being of a pregnant person. In Georgia, they have 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.959 decided that life begins at conception. I don't know why 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.920 the fuck it doesn't begin at ejaculation, because then maybe 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.640 they could start, oh, I don't know, making it mandatory 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.399 that men get vasectomies, which are then reversible when they 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:42.039 show that they are responsible enough to become fathers. You know, 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.959 I'm so confused about why it is the regulation of 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:51.120 a body that contains a uterus, as opposed to recognizing 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.360 that it takes more than one person in order to 0:01:54.360 --> 0:02:00.440 create said life. Nonetheless, other places like the state of Idaho, 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:05.800 which the Department of Justice has decided to file charges against, 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:12.560 has put in place a law that would criminalize doctors 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:17.359 for implementing an abortion procedure in order to save the 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.080 life of said pregnant person. And they are pushing the 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.880 limits because the doctor could say, well, they weren't going 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.000 to die, but what will happen is that they'll be 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.840 disabled for the rest of their life, right, And the 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.600 State of Idaho is like, okay, bet, so long as 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.400 you know, we could give a fuck about the host body, 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.600 so long as the collection of cells is able to survive, 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.359 we're not going to provide it with any healthcare. We're 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.960 not going to provide any parental leave, We're not going 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.640 to provide any neonatal care, We're not going to do 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.080 any of those things. Right, so long as you know, 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.320 we can force birth and that be the end of it. 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.520 So the Department of Justice, led by Merrick Garland, has 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.880 decided to step in and they are suing the State 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:08.840 of Idaho and hoping that in this lawsuit, essentially it 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:14.760 will make it very clear that these abortion bands are 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:20.040 violating federal law, and federal law supersedes state law. Hence 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:24.520 why we are looking to congress this very napped, dysfunctional 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:30.839 Congress to codify Roe v. Wade and folks, I got 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:35.720 to tell you that the more you listen to these Republicans, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.760 the more I ask myself on a daily basis, what 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:43.200 the fuck is wrong with white women? Like, and I 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:49.080 mean that with absolute shade included, like white women, And 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.920 I am specifically talking about white women that vote for 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.280 Republicans and vote for the Republican Party or just vote 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.640 alongside their boyfriends or their daddies or like whatever it is, 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.200 What the fuck do you think is wrong with them? Right? 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.360 I did a panel Mary L. Trump does a weekly 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:14.440 show on YouTube and I have joined on as one 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:19.200 of her nerd Avengers along with several friends of Woke, 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.839 a f and folks that you all see on MSNBC 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:27.760 and other news outlets. And on this panel that was 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.760 like completely star studded. I was just you know, elated 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:38.600 to be included were lawyers and academics, journalists discussing what 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.440 it is going to take essentially to activate people, and 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.680 will Rob Wade that were the overturning of such be it? 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:50.839 And what I said was, you know, I'm not quite 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.359 sure what it is going to take white women to 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.280 pull their heads out from the fucking sand and realize 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.479 that these men who they believed that they gained their 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:05.279 power from, view them as incubators. You, my dear woman, 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:09.400 are an incubator for white supremacy. There are no exceptions 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.960 for rape, there are no exceptions for insects, there are 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:16.120 no exceptions. And frankly, if you land right on an 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:22.440 operating table, guess what your life is at risk? Guess 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:27.000 what said doctor, if you are having complications, isn't going 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.520 to save your life. And there is no amount of money, 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.599 no plane ticket that when you are on that operating 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.120 table and the choice is being made between you and 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:40.279 a fetus that they choose in you. So I need 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.040 white women in this country to wake the fuck up. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.919 And now I know that it isn't going to be 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.000 me that these women are going to listen to. So 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:56.480 I want the many white women's supporters of all ages 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.800 that listen to woke. A f Folks asked me all 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.880 the time, what can I do? What can I do? 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:08.000 I need you all to utilize your platforms, start groups, 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.440 start talking to your mom's and your aunts, and your neighbors, 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:17.560 and your friends, and your child's teacher and the daycare person. 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:22.680 I need you to start having regular conversations with what 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.080 is at stake and what is coming down for vote. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.280 By the time that you all listen to this, five 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.360 states will have voted, including the one that everybody is watching, 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.040 which is Kansas, because it's going to be the first 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:38.520 either referendum on the overturning of Rov Wade or it's 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.880 going to signal to Republicans that that they can just 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.640 keep on keeping on because they no real pushback coming. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.440 We will find that out by the end of the week. 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:48.919 But the reality is is that I need you to 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.320 start holding your own focus groups, holding your own town halls, 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:57.039 and having conversations with other white women about their role 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.400 in this revolution these revolution luctionary times that we are 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:05.080 living in. It is no longer incumbent on the responsibility 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:09.280 of black Indigenous women of color right to be on 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.960 the forefront, even though we are the ones that are 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:16.600 victimized the most from the systemic failures that this country 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:21.920 has had over generations. Right, we are entering into a 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.200 time when they really have drawn the battle lines of 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.840 us versus them, and your whiteness is not going to 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:32.480 fucking save you, right, So it isn't going to be 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.120 me that is going to sound the alarm that is 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.720 going to wake these women up. But it is going 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.200 to be all of you. It is going to be 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.120 all of you, not just having one and done conversations, 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:48.000 but having weekly conversations, consistent conversations, getting on zoom calls, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.640 getting on you know, getting on a phone chain, talking 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:56.000 with your church members, your synagogue. You're like, whatever it is, 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.880 it is time for white women to take on the 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:04.840 role of waking up other white women because otherwise this 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:09.720 country ain't surviving, right, And you know, I would love 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.040 to believe that there are more people who believe in progress, 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.800 equity and justice in this country than who don't, but 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.200 I'm not so sure. I think that it's about fifty fifty. 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.560 And right now, the other fucking side is winning, and 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:26.880 they are winning fucking big. And the setup for our 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.280 loss in twenty twenty two for the midterms election isn't 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:34.080 like the We're going to have another chance at this again. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:39.359 We are two elections away from losing our democracy fucking completely. 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.560 That is not an exaggeration. That is an alarm to 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:48.760 go off in everyone's head. Republicans achieve a win in 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.920 these midterms and then are set up to win in 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:55.800 twenty twenty four. America is done. America already as we 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:00.160 have known it and understood it right throughout our all 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:06.400 many decades. Isn't never going to happen again? Right? We 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:11.160 are already so removed from the Obama years, let alone 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:15.440 any years prior to that. We are in such a 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.839 dark and dismal place in this country that there isn't 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.160 a day that goes by. There isn't a fucking hour 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:26.120 that goes by that another virus isn't announced, another talk about, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.120 you know, somebody being shot or killed or beaten or stabbed, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:34.000 a black person, unarmed by police or a vigilante. There 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.000 isn't a headline that goes by that isn't talking about 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:41.280 climate change and uncontained fire, superstorms. They are all of 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:45.319 these things, right, And so you add on top of 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.680 all of the man made climate change and disaster that 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:53.440 we are experiencing right now, and combine that with the 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.959 fall of our democracy and the fact that we all 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.040 continue to kind of move throughout the world right now, 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.800 like everything is going to somehow work itself out. It 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.800 ain't working itself out unless we work it out, and 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.360 unless everyone gets to the same place. A fucking rage 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.000 of where we are and all of the rights that 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.520 we are losing, and what is going to happen when 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.440 the Supreme Court now takes up affirmative action when they 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.160 get back, takes up birth control when they get back, 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.800 takes up marriage equality right, and all of these things. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:30.840 Tick tick tick tick tick right. So my feeling is 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.320 I need for folks to be talking to the members 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:39.640 of their own community, to be getting these people on board, 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.880 to coming to them and saying I am like you 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:48.240 and you are like me, but this cannot stand right, 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.000 that no one is going to be safe. So while 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.320 you may have been able to be like, yeah, well, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.040 I'm not black, so I don't need to care about 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.040 police reform or voting rights or you know, I'm not this, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.120 so I don't need, you know, to hair about healthcare. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.480 And I'm wealthy so I can do whatever the fuck. No, 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:08.880 they are coming for everything, and frankly, it's pretty fucking 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.920 simple and easy because they have recognized that they don't 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.920 need Congress, they don't need the federal government, they needed 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.480 the courts, and they needed more than half of the 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:24.400 states to be controlled by Republican governors. Right that they 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.840 can just rewrite constitutions, They can rewrite the law and 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.240 think that no pushback is going to come. And what 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.479 I'm saying is that it is time for the population 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:40.079 right that handed Donald Trump a win in twenty sixteen, 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.200 that decided not to vote for one of their own 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.640 but instead go for the pussy grabbing, misogynist, racist pig 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:52.760 and do so again in twenty twenty. This is on 0:11:53.160 --> 0:12:01.280 all y'all. So for the good, progressive, thoughtful, strategic white 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.800 women that are listening to me right now, I need 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.720 you to jot down a list of ten to fifteen 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:12.960 women that you can call into conversation. Invite them and 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.280 not bereade them, but say, do you know what is 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:22.000 happening in our state? Right? Here is where abortion stands, 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:25.360 Here is where voting rights stands, here is where canceling 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:30.920 of student debt stands. Here's where this stands. Our democracy 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:36.400 is crumbling, and if we don't activate ourselves now, there 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.880 will be no next time. This is what I need. 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:45.080 I need people to start doing, utilizing your platforms, your voice, 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.720 and your network and recognizing that everything is at stake 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:54.120 right now and everyone has a responsibility. Coming up next, 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:58.880 dear friends, my conversation with our friend, our in house doctor, 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.400 doctor Jonathan. 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Folks, you know 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.680 that whenever we have the opportunity to talk with our 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:54.400 in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, we are overjoyed and 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:59.120 also terrified at what the latest virus discussion will be about, 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:03.320 or how much America is failing once again when faced 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:08.160 with a health pandemic that we should learn from. We 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.720 should have used the things that we learned over the 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.960 past two years with COVID to engage with monkeypox, and 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:19.400 yet Jonathan, here we are where last week New York 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:25.000 State declared a state of emergency. This week California has 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:30.040 declared a state of emergency. Tell us, how is it 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:36.600 that we got this wrong again? Well, first, let me 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.960 say the most important thing is there's a monkeypox vaccine 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.440 that stops this right. It's going to be mandated by 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.680 the government. The government is going to force you and 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:51.080 your family to get the vaccine, and you should resist. 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.560 You should not listen to the government force you to 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.760 get the vaccine. This is big government. The reason I'm 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.360 saying that is because there's only so much monkey box 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:06.720 vaccine around, and so I have a feeling, first of all, 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.040 that this is going to be a totally different Like 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.560 with COVID we mandated, there was plenty of vaccine, everybody 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.640 just go in and get it, and that led to 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.440 all this crazy politics. But I think, as we talked 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.200 about last week, one of the main issues is that 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.440 there's We've had the technology for a while, because you know, 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.560 we had smallpox, for example, and there's only one company, 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.400 but veryan Nordic, that makes this vaccine and there and 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.120 there's not enough of it, and so I feared that 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.080 this is going to turn into like the Hunger Games 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.240 in a way for the vaccine. So we have to 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.440 say the same things as the COVID vaccine to get 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.120 like millions of my fellow honkys to not get the vaccine, 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.800 so they'll be enough for everybody. Because I think that 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.400 the fact that this thing is going to be this 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.160 thing is going to get really bad. I'm sorry, it's 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.080 a beautiful day out, but this thing is going to 0:16:56.120 --> 0:17:00.520 get really bad. And so number one one is like, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.840 we this isn't COVID. We're not starting from nowhere. We 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:07.040 actually have a treatment for this, but it's in limited supply, 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.760 and so how we how we kind of narrate this 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.560 as this thing starts to spread is going to be 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.119 super duper important. Now back to your question, I just 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.399 wanted to do that as a public service announcement, but 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.800 I will say that, you know, there's been a version 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.400 of monkey Box, as we talked about before, that has 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.439 been circulating a round Africa for a long time. But 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.520 it's it really seems like it's behaving differently now. If 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.000 you look at the if you look at the transmission patterns. 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.760 I mean it's it's doubling in New York and other 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.679 places like every week, Like yep, how's that happening? And 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.040 so I called my parents the other day, who are 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:47.280 like smart liberal doctors and I and I said, hey, 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.280 you know, you guys should get the monkey box vaccine 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.359 if you can, because this thing is not behaving the 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.040 way the way you know, it's behaving like smallpox. Which 0:17:56.040 --> 0:18:00.560 smallpox it's on a surface for like twenty five years. Um, 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.320 that's how this thing is acting, right, This thing is 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:07.920 acting like like smallpox used to. And can you can 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.800 you explain just give us a give us a bit 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:15.040 of a history lesson in terms of how smallpox actually 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:20.520 acted and how monkeypox is deviating from what has been 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:25.159 discovered as it has circulated throughout countries in Africa, um, 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.720 and how it's acting differently and like smallpox. Now yeah yeah, So, 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.680 I mean the issue with with smallpox, right, and it's 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.880 kind of similar with monkeypox, right, is that, Um it's 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:40.239 initially everybody thought, oh, here's an illness that's causing you know, 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:44.960 vesicles or um blisters, those kind of things, but it 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.080 turns out it's also affecting your internal organs And then 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:49.760 it turned out that if you have it in your 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:53.920 like internal organs um and you call for your sneeze, 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.520 it's not like an airborne virus. But if somebody's near 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.840 you and has it in their gi or respiratory track, 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:04.760 there's a chance they could propel that onto you and 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.680 then all you have to do is like rub your 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:08.560 eye or something like that. But the other thing is 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.600 if they cough on a surface, like smallpox, would just 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.040 you know, the famous cases right were when it was 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.440 in blankets, right, and we gave it to Native Americans 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.240 and wiped out like millions and millions of millions of people, 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.119 And so this stuff can live outside the body. I 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.760 think it's kind of the main point. And if it's 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.560 that same category everybody before was like, oh, you have 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.119 to like rub against the vesicles or the story with 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.960 my parents actually kind of terrifying as that I said, 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.600 you guys should get the smallpox vac scene and my 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.840 dad not at all, but he just said, really, sincerely, 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:45.200 I haven't had gay sex, and so I think everybody 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:46.960 thinks like, oh, you have to have this is like 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.600 HIV that you actually have to have, like penetrating gay 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:54.240 sex to have it, and I'm sorry that's not the case, 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.040 you know, But I mean, you know, Jonathan, what what 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:03.919 makes me and you know, like jokes aside about the 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:05.919 name and all of these things, but what has pissed 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.320 me off in terms of the way that the media 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:12.480 and the CDC and others have rolled out their faques 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.800 around monkey pox is in fact the same way that 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.800 they stigmatize HIV and AIDS. And it's like as if 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.280 there has been nothing that has been learned in the 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:25.520 last thirty forty fucking years about like not situating a 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:31.159 virus in one community and thinking that oh, because you're saying, oh, 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.800 it's it's concentrated in a community of men that sleep 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:39.800 with men, which then essentially announces to heterosexuals or those 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.960 that receive themselves to be heterosexual that like, I don't 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.119 need to pay attention to this, so I'll click the 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.439 channel when we're talking about monkey pox and go on 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.600 to something else. And they have stigmatized it and created 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:54.520 a stereotype around It's one group and one type of 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.320 person that is getting this, and by virtue of them 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.480 getting it, oh, well, they just aren't paying attention and 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:02.919 they're not taking their health seriously and what have you. 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:08.320 So can you talk about how this rollout of expressing 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:13.439 to people the dangers around monkey pox has made it 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:18.680 spread so quickly because of how they've done it. Well, 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.760 I mean, it's not just HIV, right, it's also it's 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:25.680 this is a this is a this is a basically 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:30.639 a likely epidemic that's happening after they've been so badly 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.720 burned by COVID, right, and so COVID so much has 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:39.280 shaped this also and so um. And the other part 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:42.359 I think is that they just completely minimized how contagious 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:44.399 this is. I mean, again, nobody's saying that it's just 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:47.840 me looking at the data. But again, if it's spreading 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.320 the way that they initially said, there's just no way 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.800 it would be multiplying the way it is. But it's 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:58.359 multiplying like crazy, And so I don't know, gay people 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:02.160 also use laundry, They also use linens and towels, right, 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.320 you know, Like I mean, it's fully spreading by lots 0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:08.920 of different ways that are not just you know, the 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:12.280 domain of gay people like kids, you know, But no, 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.920 because I'm actually I'm thinking about the fact that if you're, 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:20.160 if we're if you're talking about what we all remember 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:24.160 or read about smallpox in history class when we were 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:29.920 in K through twelfth school. The reality here is that 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:34.240 in cities, right, let's just look, let's just look at 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:39.160 New York City. Right, in cities, I live in an 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.720 hold on I'm sorry, I live in an apartment building 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:48.439 that does not have laundry, right, so I send my 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:52.120 laundry out, like millions of people that live in New York, right, 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:56.439 And you're telling me that if this is functioning in 0:22:56.480 --> 0:23:00.720 the same way as smallpox, which was wrapped up in blankets, 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:05.080 and many people in this city use laundry mats, use 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.879 laundry facilities, and we have again just been talking about 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:12.520 monkey pops as if you have to come into sexual 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:16.439 or like close physical contact as opposed to touching a 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:20.120 surface or going or using a laundry machine or what 0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:24.199 have you. Like? Are we not looking at literally and 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:28.119 figuratively all of the touch points here, how this is 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:32.399 spreading in a city right now, in a state like 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:37.359 New York and California. I you know again, I'm just 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.960 looking at the numbers. I'm looking at the graphs, and 0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:44.200 just as a totally independent observer who's not studying this 0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:47.639 I'm saying, there's no way this thing is spreading this 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:52.399 fast if it's just through gay sex, that's just that's so, 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:55.000 that's me independently saying that. I want to be clear. 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:58.360 It's not like I have some knowledge, but I would 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:00.640 not be surprised. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong, 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:04.280 you know, but I would not be surprised if this 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.480 thing spreads because it's spreading in ways that we didn't anticipate, 0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.880 and so and so, in that sense, I feel like 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.600 it is on one hand, it's been minimized. On their hand, 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:19.120 our public health infrastructure, let's be honest, has been devastated, demoralized, 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:24.000 and is still fighting the COVID pandemic. And so, you know, 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:28.239 there are reasons that aren't just ignorance here. I think 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:29.959 a lot of people know it. I just think that 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:32.000 you know, I have to see. And the other point, 0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:36.320 of course, is that we don't have anywhere near enough treatment. 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.919 And so I think every time you see anybody just 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.680 say this is a government plot to vaccinate your children 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.200 or something like that, because until we have enough vaccine, 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:51.400 I think, you know, the unfortunate thing is public health 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:54.040 awareness is just going to be really really important, especially 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:57.080 in a place like New York, and so I do 0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.000 think there needs to be more consistent, updated information about 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:03.040 the ways that it's spread. I'm I mean, I'm a 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.880 crazy person, right, but I get the monkeypox text messages 0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:07.760 on my phone, you know, from the city. I don't 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.760 know if you do that. But initially it was kind 0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:12.879 of like, um, like I'd see if they can find it. 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:17.240 I mean, initially it was kind of like, um, don't 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:21.440 go to the bathhouse. But now it's kind of like 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:23.840 the stuff that's coming out is kind of like do 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:25.760 you have a fever, go see your doctor right away 0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:27.679 or something like that. So even judging on that, I 0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:31.159