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Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with

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Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks.

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Speaker 1: You know, I want to start off today with talking

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Speaker 1: sense of cruelty that Republicans are rolling out that I

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Speaker 1: about what we are seeing and now, provided the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice has finally decided to step in because of

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Speaker 1: what has been happening, that is just absolutely egregious. So basically,

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Speaker 1: all of these states are implementing their trigger laws and

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Speaker 1: are taking away any exception for the life and the

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Speaker 1: well being of a pregnant person. In Georgia, they have

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Speaker 1: decided that life begins at conception. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: the fuck it doesn't begin at ejaculation, because then maybe

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Speaker 1: they could start, oh, I don't know, making it mandatory

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Speaker 1: that men get vasectomies, which are then reversible when they

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Speaker 1: show that they are responsible enough to become fathers. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm so confused about why it is the regulation of

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Speaker 1: a body that contains a uterus, as opposed to recognizing

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Speaker 1: that it takes more than one person in order to

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Speaker 1: create said life. Nonetheless, other places like the state of Idaho,

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Speaker 1: which the Department of Justice has decided to file charges against,

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Speaker 1: has put in place a law that would criminalize doctors

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Speaker 1: for implementing an abortion procedure in order to save the

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Speaker 1: life of said pregnant person. And they are pushing the

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Speaker 1: limits because the doctor could say, well, they weren't going

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Speaker 1: to die, but what will happen is that they'll be

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Speaker 1: disabled for the rest of their life, right, And the

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Speaker 1: you know, we could give a fuck about the host body,

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Speaker 1: so long as the collection of cells is able to survive,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to provide it with any healthcare. We're

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Speaker 1: not going to provide any parental leave, We're not going

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Speaker 1: to provide any neonatal care, We're not going to do

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Speaker 1: any of those things. Right, so long as you know,

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Speaker 1: we can force birth and that be the end of it.

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Speaker 1: So the Department of Justice, led by Merrick Garland, has

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Speaker 1: will make it very clear that these abortion bands are

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Speaker 1: violating federal law, and federal law supersedes state law. Hence

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Speaker 1: why we are looking to congress this very napped, dysfunctional

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Speaker 1: Congress to codify Roe v. Wade and folks, I got

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Speaker 1: to tell you that the more you listen to these Republicans,

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Speaker 1: the more I ask myself on a daily basis, what

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Speaker 1: the fuck is wrong with white women? Like, and I

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Speaker 1: mean that with absolute shade included, like white women, And

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Speaker 1: I am specifically talking about white women that vote for

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Speaker 1: alongside their boyfriends or their daddies or like whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: What the fuck do you think is wrong with them? Right?

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Speaker 1: I did a panel Mary L. Trump does a weekly

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Speaker 1: show on YouTube and I have joined on as one

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Speaker 1: of her nerd Avengers along with several friends of Woke,

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Speaker 1: like completely star studded. I was just you know, elated

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Speaker 1: to be included were lawyers and academics, journalists discussing what

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Speaker 1: it is going to take essentially to activate people, and

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Speaker 1: will Rob Wade that were the overturning of such be it?

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Speaker 1: And what I said was, you know, I'm not quite

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Speaker 1: that these men who they believed that they gained their

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Speaker 1: power from, view them as incubators. You, my dear woman,

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Speaker 1: are an incubator for white supremacy. There are no exceptions

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Speaker 1: for rape, there are no exceptions for insects, there are

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Speaker 1: what said doctor, if you are having complications, isn't going

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Speaker 1: a fetus that they choose in you. So I need

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Speaker 1: white women in this country to wake the fuck up.

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Speaker 1: And now I know that it isn't going to be

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Speaker 1: I need you all to utilize your platforms, start groups,

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Speaker 1: start talking to your mom's and your aunts, and your neighbors,

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Speaker 1: By the time that you all listen to this, five

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Speaker 1: which is Kansas, because it's going to be the first

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Speaker 1: keep on keeping on because they no real pushback coming.

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Speaker 1: We will find that out by the end of the week.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is is that I need you to

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Speaker 1: start holding your own focus groups, holding your own town halls,

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Speaker 1: time when they really have drawn the battle lines of

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Speaker 1: but having weekly conversations, consistent conversations, getting on zoom calls,

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Speaker 1: with your church members, your synagogue. You're like, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: role of waking up other white women because otherwise this

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Speaker 1: country ain't surviving, right, And you know, I would love

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Speaker 1: to believe that there are more people who believe in progress,

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Speaker 1: And right now, the other fucking side is winning, and

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Speaker 1: they are winning fucking big. And the setup for our

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Speaker 1: like the We're going to have another chance at this again.

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Speaker 1: We are two elections away from losing our democracy fucking completely.

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Speaker 1: That is not an exaggeration. That is an alarm to

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. America is done. America already as we

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Speaker 1: many decades. Isn't never going to happen again? Right? We

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Speaker 1: climate change and uncontained fire, superstorms. They are all of

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Speaker 1: so I don't need, you know, to hair about healthcare.

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Speaker 1: And I'm wealthy so I can do whatever the fuck. No,

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Speaker 1: they are coming for everything, and frankly, it's pretty fucking

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Speaker 1: I need people to start doing, utilizing your platforms, your voice,

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Speaker 1: that whenever we have the opportunity to talk with our

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Speaker 1: in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, we are overjoyed and

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Speaker 1: yet Jonathan, here we are where last week New York

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Speaker 1: say the most important thing is there's a monkeypox vaccine

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Speaker 1: so they'll be enough for everybody. Because I think that

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Speaker 1: are we not expressing the dangers and talking about protocol

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Speaker 1: in the way that we need to when we know

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Speaker 1: that American children are going back to school in the

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Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. I mean, hell yeah, I'm I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm obviously thinking about this for college also, right, because

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Speaker 1: college students live indoors, yes, the community that yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they also put everything in their mouth and in a

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Speaker 1: different way. And so I would just say that, I

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Speaker 1: would just say that, like, where's the information right now?

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Speaker 1: And again I realize it's probably just being I mean,

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Speaker 1: the fear of like saying stuff that's not right, I

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Speaker 1: think is the is the is the lesson of COVID

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Speaker 1: people are afraid of. But I feel like we're airing

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Speaker 1: on the other side right now, which is just kind

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Speaker 1: of acting like, you know, don't have unprotected gay sex

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Speaker 1: and you'll be I feel like, yeah, we're acting like that.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing that is scaring the shit out

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Speaker 1: of me is that I honestly, I feel like we

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Speaker 1: are acting as if there is no like that this

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00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: isn't a big deal like it was initially. Like again,

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00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: the initial reports of this and how we have shifted

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Speaker 1: in terms of the conversation from the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: end of June until now has changed dramatically, and so

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Speaker 1: initially it was just like, oh, look at this weird

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Speaker 1: thing that's happening on this continent that the world doesn't

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Speaker 1: give a fuck about because it's filled with black people,

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Speaker 1: so like, who really cares and it'll never come here.

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Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, it's like, no, there are

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Speaker 1: cases that are popping up in Europe and cases that

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Speaker 1: are popping up here. Because, as I've said, everything is

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Speaker 1: just one flight away. So if you're seeing things that

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Speaker 1: are happening in you know, in in in an African nation,

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Speaker 1: and you're thinking to yourself, oh, well, I'm safe because

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Speaker 1: I'm in Kansas. It only takes one goddamn flight, right,

463
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: Like we're a global community. There was a there was

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Speaker 1: a viral tweet quote unquote from Spain about a doctor

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Speaker 1: who was writing public transportation and if you saw it,

466
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Speaker 1: and he saw somebody with active monkeypox lesions all over

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Speaker 1: his body and he was just like right in the

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Speaker 1: middle of train and the doctor was like, you cannot

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Speaker 1: be here, and and the guy said, oh, people say

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Speaker 1: it's respiratory, so I'm fine if I don't touch anybody.

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00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 1: And then all these people were around him and all

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00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: the people were like, if we don't have gay sex

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Speaker 1: with him, we should be all right, and stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: and it seemed to be a legit tweet, and I

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00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: think there are so many stories like that now. And

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Speaker 1: the question is, really the question is how do you

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Speaker 1: change perceptions when it's so embedded in bias already. And I,

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Speaker 1: you know, I hope they get their act together. Honestly,

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00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: it's not too late for them to get their act together.

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00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: Monkeypox is not COVID. It's actually much more containable than COVID.

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00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: We already have treatments for it. But but I feel

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Speaker 1: like the lack of centralized information right now is pretty urgent.

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00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: And again, I know they're probably right about freaking people out.

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00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: I know that, you know, we're already gearing up to

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Speaker 1: try to get people to get their COVID shots again.

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Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know, I don't know. I mean,

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00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: but I think that the right answer is, like people

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00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: need to be intellectually fucking nimble, right, Like, the more

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00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: information that we have, the more information that you'll get.

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Speaker 1: But the fact is for me, is that the federal

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Speaker 1: government needs to be running PSAs on every goddamn network

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Speaker 1: as like as information comes out, So every day there

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Speaker 1: should be multiple PSAs about like what monkeypox is looking

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Speaker 1: like in your area, how to stay safe. Like, this

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Speaker 1: is what we know right now, which is it can

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Speaker 1: live on surfaces, it can live outside the body. This

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00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: is not an STD right, So if you're just quote

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Speaker 1: unquote avoiding gay sex like that is not the end

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00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: all be all right. There are people that are getting

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Speaker 1: this and it's spreading rapidly and we're still trying to

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Speaker 1: get a hold on it. So in the meantime, wash

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Speaker 1: your fucking hands, wash the surfaces. Stay like if you

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Speaker 1: feel activated with fever or legions, like, go see a doctor.

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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: How hard is this? I mean, you know, again, I

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00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: think the information infrastructure is the entity that got caught

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00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: with their pants down. I think that in a way,

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00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: we are just really behind the curve here, and it's

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00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: and and again the other issue is the minute it

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00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: gets embedded in bias or homophobia or things like that,

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00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 1: that just becomes what people think and remember. So then

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00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: it becomes harder to give any kind of neutral information

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Speaker 1: or to motivate people. And so I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a real there's a real emergency right now. I

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00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: in no ways making light of it because this is

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00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: a really serious, really painful, really scarring condition. And again,

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00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: you have vesicles internally as well as externally. So you

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Speaker 1: don't want this. People don't want this, you know, right now,

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00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: what am I doing? I've gotten rid of so much

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00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: of my stock poll crap, and now I just ordered

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00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: four more huge boxes of gloves, and so I have

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00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: rubber gloves now just in case. I got some eye goggles,

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00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: just in case. You know. That's that's where this is going,

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Speaker 1: because I travel a lot and I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: stay up on the information. I mean, there's some pretty

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Speaker 1: concerning studies that again are showing suggesting that this thing

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00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: can be propelled in an aerosol way that I think

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00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: people might want to pay attention to. I don't know

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00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: if that's going to be true or not, but I'd

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00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: rather be safe safe than sorry. And I don't know.

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00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: I haven't gone back to tell you. I'm getting back

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00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: to a place where I just like, am about to

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00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: just go back to self quarantine. It like it is,

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00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: it is so I mean, but it's so real that

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00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: like I don't want to be on I haven't taken

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00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: public transportation because I broke my toe two months ago,

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00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I don't want to be on public transportation.

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00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in like shared spaces with

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00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: people that I don't know in a way that it

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00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, the world is open back up,

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00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, we're never going to enter back into

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00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: a space I don't believe because of politics of going

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00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: back into quarantine in order to keep people safe, because

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00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: people are crazy, right. So the reality is is that

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00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: you're going to have to take in your own information

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00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: and make choices about how you're about how you're moving

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00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: and existing. And the fact is that we have two

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00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: major friggan viruses that like result in serious injury and depth.

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00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: Ye like we're just having conversations now. And also it's

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00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: understanding the effects of long term of long term COVID, yeah,

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00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: you know. And also our epidemics are mirroring our political dysfunction, right,

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00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: So it's just it's all these things. It's a it's

552
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: a perfect storm, and I don't know, and until we

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00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: figure this out, I mean, I don't know. I ninety

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00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: million per L's if anybody needs a per L. If

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00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: you get on the airplane, take the take the wipe

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00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: down thing they give you. But I mean it's it's

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00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's you know, the other issue is

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00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: if you were born before nineteen seventy two, you might

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00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: have some lingering protection from the smallpox vaccine, which they

560
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: stopped giving in the early nineteen seventies. So I mean,

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00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: just be careful right now, because you know, I would

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00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: bet you by the time we talk next week, there's

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00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: going to be a lot more information. Even I just

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00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: feel like we I mean, and there are people who've

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00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: been trying to sound the alarm on this and have

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00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: been not listened to. In fact, they were the same

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00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: people who tried to sound the alarm back COVID. So

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00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: but I don't know, there's still time for us to

569
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: correct course here. I know we have a big vaccine

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00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: shipment coming in in October, so everybody is to just

571
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: be really careful till October and then we can all

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00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: go back to Spotcastle, which I miss dearly. Um and

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00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: so um. You know, but I would just say right now,

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Speaker 1: I think you're it's good to be wary, it's good

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00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: to be suspicious. It's just I don't know. We sound

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00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: like conservatives, don't, We like we don't trust the government.

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00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: But it's not it's not that I don't trust. See,

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00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: It's not that I don't trust the government in terms.

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00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: I just don't think that they are sounding the alarm.

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00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: So it's actually the different from conservatives, like I don't

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00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: think that they're sounding the alarm on this in the

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00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: way that they Yeah, yeah, I want I want PSAs.

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00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: I want a fireside chat. I want you know, regular

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00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, updates at one o'clock in the afternoon on

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00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: every fucking channel that tells us where we are with COVID,

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00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: where we are with monkey pox, and how to keep

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00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: yourself safe. Right, I want a town hall right before

588
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: back to school about what you need to do with

589
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: your fucking kids, on top of giving them bulletproof backpacks

590
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: like Jesus Christ, you know in other countries, on top

591
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: of every hour the you'll hear three beeps and then

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00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: a national news broadcast that's like from BBC or I

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00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: don't know, it's an utuel day have, like you know,

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00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: just national radio, and everybody's like, oh, yeah, we trust it,

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00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. I wish I wish we had

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00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: some neutral information. And the funny thing is when I

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00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: interviewed conservatives about COVID, they would all say, I wish

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00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: we had neutral information. I'm like, yeah, you're at home

599
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: writing reading brightebart give me a break. But that's the thing,

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00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: is like, at times like this, you just want to

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00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: know the information, like what is risk, what is protection?

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00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: What should I do? And right now we're having a

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00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: hard time getting that out. I mean optimistically though, this

604
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: is about as good as it's going to get, so

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Speaker 1: I enjoy it. Oh Jesus Christ, job, we're ending on

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00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: that note. I mean, you know, by the time this

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Speaker 1: this errors, will know the outcome of some pretty important

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Speaker 1: votes today. So um, so you know today could be

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Speaker 1: a turning point or on one way or another. So

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Speaker 1: one way or another there We'll be back next week.

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Speaker 1: Both doctor Jonathan Metzl, author of Dying of Whiteness, and

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