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Speaker 4: Hey Daniel, what's your favorite science fiction movie?

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Speaker 1: Hi I'm Daniel. I'm a particle physicist, and I am

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Speaker 4: Well, today you have four really interesting and tough questions,

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Speaker 5: No, Yes, I'm going big today. I'm here to light

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Speaker 1: Questions about secret jelly belly flavors or anything. We're going big.

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Speaker 3: No, we're going big.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know which one you guys want

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Speaker 5: And I feel like, oh no, we got to like

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Speaker 3: You know where we're at right now a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But you're assuming the future of humanity is grim?

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Speaker 5: So I don't know if you want to leave that

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Speaker 4: I feel like there's a good one to end on.

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Speaker 1: End on the downer that sounds good.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you'll then, in which case it's all movie.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The recent discovery or advancement I guess is this picture

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Speaker 1: I thought it looked more like a fuzzy donut, actually

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Speaker 1: But there were people online who thought it was all faked.

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Speaker 1: He has eleven blops of data.

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Speaker 1: I think they took pictures of two. They've only released

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Speaker 4: It seems almost impossible to me. I mean, you can't

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Speaker 4: It's just like a little fuzzy oval. And so you're

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Speaker 5: Wow, Okay, I mean I'm confused by a few things.

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Speaker 5: Number One, conspiracy corner here. Why not release.

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Speaker 3: The other.

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Speaker 1: Why the other picture?

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Speaker 3: You said they have two, and one's released and one's not.

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Speaker 3: So what's the government hiding?

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Speaker 4: Good question.

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Speaker 1: Aliens and chocolate, that's usually the answer.

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Speaker 4: That was the picture of it's like the black hole,

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Speaker 4: but there's like an alien doing a selfie. Yeah, chocolate.

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Speaker 3: I want to see that.

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Speaker 1: They found the tests act No, I think they're just

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Speaker 1: it's coming out.

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Speaker 3: They're staggering them like Game of Thrones episode. It's not

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Speaker 1: They're waiting for the ad campaign, you know, they get

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 1: And the reason it took so long is that it's

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Speaker 1: really far away and it's tiny, and the wavelength of

444
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Speaker 1: light that we used to see it radio waves are

445
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Speaker 1: really really large, and so in order to see something

446
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Speaker 1: really really far away you need a really really big telescope.

447
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 1: You got to gather enough light. And also because the

448
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 1: length of the light waves is so large compared to

449
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Speaker 1: the size of the thing and the distance, you need

450
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Speaker 1: basically an earth size telescope.

451
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Speaker 3: Jesus.

452
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we don't have that we don't really have that.

453
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Speaker 1: We don't have a single telescope that's the size of

454
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Speaker 1: the Earth, right, Okay. But what they did is they said,

455
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Speaker 1: let's take a bunch of telescopes all around the Earth,

456
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: oh okay, and take pictures from each of those little

457
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Speaker 1: ones and then pretend that they're all part of a

458
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Speaker 1: bigger telescope. Okay, And you're thinking, okay, but you're missing

459
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 1: most of the telescope and that's true. But you know,

460
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: the Earth spins and it rotates, so you can sort

461
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Speaker 1: of like fill in the gaps. So you're never taking

462
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Speaker 1: one earth size picture. But if you wait a few

463
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Speaker 1: years and then you collect eleven jiggle blocks of data

464
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Speaker 1: and analyze it, you can reconstruct the black hole. Because

465
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Speaker 1: it's not like an action shot, right, It's not like

466
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Speaker 1: in motion. This is like integrated over years a single picture.

467
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Speaker 4: And as the Earth rotates around the Sun too, right,

468
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Speaker 4: did that give us an actually a little bit of

469
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Speaker 4: like coverage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. As the Earth spins and it rotates,

471
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Speaker 1: and you know, our galaxy is moving compared to that galaxy,

472
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Speaker 1: and so we get all these different angles and you

473
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Speaker 1: have to add them all up to get one picture.

474
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Speaker 3: So it's not a picture.

475
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Speaker 5: It's not a snapshot of a moment of this black

476
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Speaker 5: hole's life. It's a combination of a bunch of cameras

477
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Speaker 5: taking a bunch of pictures and then for a long time.

478
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like, say you had a statue in a

479
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Speaker 1: town square and you had a picture from somebody's tourist

480
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Speaker 1: photo of the back of it, and then a year later,

481
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Speaker 1: somebody took a picture of the front of it. A

482
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Speaker 1: year later, somebody took a picture of the side, and

483
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Speaker 1: you put together like a three dvconstruction of what that

484
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Speaker 1: statue looked like. Because that's not moving, it's pretty cool

485
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Speaker 1: you can do that.

486
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Speaker 5: Okay, But the stuff around the black hole is moving, right,

487
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Speaker 5: I mean, can we do we know how fast that

488
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Speaker 5: stuff's moved, Like the speed at which it's getting sucked

489
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Speaker 5: into the abyss.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's moving really fast. It's getting sucked in there.

491
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Speaker 4: And I was glowing, right, It's like it's falling and

492
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 4: being shredded so fast that it just explodes.

493
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And the environment around a black hole is

494
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Speaker 1: not a nice place to be, right. Gravity is a

495
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Speaker 1: really powerful force, but the strength of the force varies

496
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Speaker 1: with distance, Like the further you are away from the

497
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Speaker 1: black hole, the weaker it is, and the closer you are,

498
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Speaker 1: the stronger it is, right, right, But because the gravity

499
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Speaker 1: is so strong near the black hole that if you

500
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Speaker 1: were near the black hole, the force of gravity on

501
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Speaker 1: your legs, for example, would be different than the force

502
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Speaker 1: of gravity on your head. There are different distances, and

503
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Speaker 1: that means there is effectively a force tearing you apart.

504
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: So black hole, if you got near it would literally

505
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Speaker 1: pull you in pieces because the differential gravity on the

506
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Speaker 1: different parts of you, that would recommend it. Okay, And

507
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Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the gas, That's what Jge was saying.

508
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: So that gas is getting squeezed and pulled and torn apart,

509
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Speaker 1: and that makes it glow. And that's what we're seeing,

510
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Speaker 1: is the glow of the gas around the black hole.

511
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Speaker 4: Interest that's the donut.

512
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Speaker 1: That's the donut.

513
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Speaker 3: That's the donut.

514
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Speaker 1: Yeah okay, that's the thing that looks like a donut,

515
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: not actually a donut.

516
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Speaker 4: Hoax.

517
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

518
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Speaker 4: So it's like space is black and then you got

519
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Speaker 4: the glowing stuff around the center, the edges, but then

520
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 4: the center is black again, right, because that's what the

521
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Speaker 4: black hole that's right.

522
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Speaker 1: That's the event horizon. That's the place after it, inside

523
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Speaker 1: which no light can ever leave. And so what you

524
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Speaker 1: see in the picture is gas around the black hole, right,

525
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: which is glowing, and then in the center is blackness, right,

526
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Speaker 1: and that's where the black hole is.

527
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Speaker 5: Well, it just looks like blackness, but actually it's like

528
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Speaker 5: a wormhole to the other side of the universe.

529
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Speaker 1: To the DC universe.

530
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Speaker 3: Okay, I just wanted to make.

531
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Speaker 1: Sure exactly, And the size of that hole is not

532
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Speaker 1: really the size of the black hole itself, right, Like

533
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Speaker 1: the black hole, we don't know what's happening inside the

534
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Speaker 1: event horizon, like huge mystery of science, like what's in there?

535
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Speaker 1: Is it a tiny little dot that's super duper heavy,

536
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Speaker 1: is it some quantum fuzziness? Is there something else going on?

537
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: We don't know, But there's a sphere we call the

538
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: event horizon that says nothing from inside here can ever leave. Okay,

539
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: but the picture you see of the black hole is

540
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Speaker 1: actually bigger than that event horizon. Whoa, yeah, because it's

541
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Speaker 1: really complicated the space around a black hole. Like you

542
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: look at something, you imagine that you're seeing the photons

543
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Speaker 1: sort of in the same order that they were sent

544
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Speaker 1: to you, Like I see the photons from your head

545
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Speaker 1: above the photons from your foot, So imagine your heads

546
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Speaker 1: above your foot. Right. But if there's some like complicated

547
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: lens or mirror between us, that can get all mixed up, right, sure, well,

548
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: a black hole is a huge complicated lens. It bends space,

549
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: So part of the blackness you're seeing is like the

550
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Speaker 1: backside of the event horizon because light from that comes

551
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: around and gets bent towards your eyes. So it's it's

552
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Speaker 1: a really complicated mix of all.

553
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Speaker 3: The matrix here. What you're describing broken part of reality.

554
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: It's no, it's a reveals the matrix, right, It shows

555
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: us how the matrix actually works. It tells us like

556
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: what's going on in science? This is the best the

557
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: most extreme uh areas of the universe are the place

558
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Speaker 1: to learn, like where things break down and where we

559
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Speaker 1: don't understand them. And so that's why it's pretty awesome.

560
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Speaker 4: But he's sort of right in that it does break

561
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: our models of the universe, right, like things like we

562
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Speaker 4: don't have a good model for what's happening inside about

563
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: black hole, right, like everything just breaks down.

564
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: We have two models for what's happening inside of a black hole.

565
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Speaker 1: They don't agree. Both of them are wrong. Wow, and

566
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: so yeah, we don't know.

567
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Speaker 4: They both write about everything else in the Yeah, did

568
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 4: you just disagree about what's inside exactly?

569
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Speaker 1: And the black hole is the place where they disagree

570
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Speaker 1: most and also a place where we can't look inside.

571
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: So that's like frustrating and tantalizing and amazing.

572
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Speaker 5: Yeah, do you prescribe to you know that this could

573
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 5: be an interdimensional thing, like there's some other I don't

574
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Speaker 5: know dimension or universe, multiverse like, and black hole is

575
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Speaker 5: the I don't know what entry point for something.

576
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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

577
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Speaker 1: That would be pretty awesome if they were true. There

578
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Speaker 1: are a lot of theories of wormholes, like how black

579
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Speaker 1: holes could be connected to white holes and they could

580
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Speaker 1: be and these are really big black holes. So you

581
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,239
Speaker 1: know it, honestly, it could be true, Like all that

582
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: crazy stuff you just said honestly could be reality. That's

583
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: the thing I love about it, Like, great, you know.

584
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Speaker 4: We get credit for it though, if to be true.

585
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not sure. He's the first person to

586
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: speak credited to Maybe that's a unique set of science

587
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: where it's nobody's ever said before. Right in that order.

588
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: Hey, I'll take it.

589
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: I'll give it to you. Get an honorary degree from

590
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: Daniel and Jorge.

591
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 3: Finally, our mom is gonna be so proud.

592
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: But I think also there's a larger context, Like I

593
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: think some people think, oh, we saw a picture of

594
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: black hole, so now we know they're real. We sort

595
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: of already knew they were real. We could tell the

596
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: black holes were there indirectly from their gravity, the way

597
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: the stars move around them. A lot of black holes

598
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: are not that hard to see, Like the gas around

599
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: them is super bright. It's actually one of the brightest

600
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Speaker 1: things in the universe. We call them quasars. They emit

601
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: a huge amount of radiation. These ones that they took

602
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: a picture of are the more common ones that are

603
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: not very bright, that are hard to see. That's why

604
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: it's so impressive.

605
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 3: But wait, wait, if quasars are the brightest.

606
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Speaker 5: Thing, it's easy to see and it's around the black hole,

607
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 5: why haven't we seen pictures of that?

608
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: We have, We've seen quasars, quasis are all over the place.

609
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: Well, we've seen them as stars. Basically, we haven't. We've

610
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: never had this kind of detailed picture of an actual

611
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 4: black circle. Right, this is the first time we see

612
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 4: like an actual black circle.

613
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: Right. The cool thing about this is it's the first

614
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: time we've seen them in this way. This directly and

615
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: resolved the shape of the event horizon. That's the thing

616
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen. It's like, what does the event horizon

617
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: look like? We think it's a circle? What if it

618
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: was something else? When it was a hexagon or like

619
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: a big middle finger, right.

620
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: The cube?

621
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, or the agent agents of shield symbol or something.

622
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: So that's what you're looking at in the picture. Then, right,

623
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 4: that's you're looking at the glowy stuff. The donut is

624
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 4: the gas around the black hole. But then what you're

625
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 4: seeing the black spot in the middle. That is like

626
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 4: the event horizon of a black hole. That's like the

627
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 4: spot where no not even light can escape.

628
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: It's the first time that we can put it as

629
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: our wallpaper.

630
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, first selfie.

631
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: Very cool. And wait, what about white holes?

632
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: Then?

633
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: That is also real? Have we seen those? Do we

634
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 3: have pictures?

635
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: A white hole could be real? We don't know, theoretically possible,

636
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: never been observed, but yeah, could be a thing in

637
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: the universe for sure, could be a thing.

638
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: Okay, stay tuned and I Remember, black.

639
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: Holes used to be in the could be a thing

640
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: in the universe category, but nobody really believed it because

641
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: it sounds too crazy. Now actually a thing, we have

642
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: picture them. Yeah, so there's a good, long, rich history

643
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: of stuff going from crazy idea nobody really believes, but

644
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: we can't rule it out to Look, there's one hundred

645
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: of them over there.

646
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's pretty awesome. Wake up, you doubters.

647
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, the universe is filled with crazy, nasty, hot stuff,

648
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: weirder than we could ever imagine. So let's say it's

649
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: a great source of entertainment for me.

650
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 4: Cool. Well, that's that's your first question. Even we'll get

651
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 4: to your other questions, but first, let's take a quick break.

652
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Speaker 1: When you pop a piece of cheese into your mouth

653
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: or enjoy a rich spoonful of Greek yogurt, you're probably

654
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: not thinking about the environmental impact of each and every bite.

655
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: But the people in the dairy industry are us. Dairy

656
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: has set themselves some ambitious sustainability goals, including being greenhouse

657
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Speaker 1: gas neutral by twenty to fifty. That's why they're working

658
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: hard every day to find new ways to reduce waste,

659
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: conserve natural resources, and drive down greenhouse gas emissions take water.

660
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Speaker 1: For example, most dairy farms reuse water up to four times.

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Speaker 4: All right, we have Ethan Edinburgh here from the podcast

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Speaker 4: Bad Science, a podcast which deconstructs science fiction movies. We're

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Speaker 4: real sciences and comedians.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, doesn't even have to be science fiction movies.

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Speaker 5: Just anything that there's a science spin on science. Well

707
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Speaker 5: attack its sciencey movies.

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Speaker 1: And you ever like take a movie and you're like, actually,

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Speaker 1: this is all good science, So we should rename our

710
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Speaker 1: podcasts or cancel this episode?

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Speaker 3: Has that never happened accurate science.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes there are like Apollo thirteen was one of them

713
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Speaker 5: that science was all pretty you know, accurate.

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Speaker 4: If they were watching documentary by accident and be like,

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Speaker 4: oh wait, we can't Oh no, it's not true.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, when you ever dismantled documentary claimed the

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Speaker 1: bogus then discovered it.

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Speaker 5: Was real that normally what we do, no we I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 5: we will just use it as like a launching pad

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Speaker 5: to talk about science so I'm not in the field.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not trying to attack these movies or

722
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Speaker 5: say like, oh this is wrong and this isn't good,

723
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Speaker 5: you know, I mean normally because I don't know anything,

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Speaker 5: but also just to uh, you know, say, the.

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Speaker 3: Movie is great, here's what I love about it. Here's

726
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Speaker 3: what didn't really make sense to me.

727
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Speaker 5: But let's dive into how snakes reproduce because that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I see is interesting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We just did ant Conda so it's on my mind.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, wow, it was a going So they just

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Speaker 1: like butt off a little mini and aconda off the

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Speaker 1: back or how does that work?

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Speaker 3: It's honestly, and they have how snakes. I had no idea.

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Speaker 3: Well they so first of all, the I'm not going

736
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Speaker 3: to get super into so we don't have a ton

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Speaker 3: of time.

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Speaker 4: We can look up your podcast, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, goes to the anaconda episode. I'll just tease

740
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Speaker 5: you with the fact that males, and this is across

741
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Speaker 5: a lot of species apparently, you know, multiple males will

742
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Speaker 5: like smell the pheromones from a female and all want

743
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Speaker 5: to mate with the same female and they'll create this

744
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Speaker 5: anaconda ball. So like there's like seven snakes all wrapped

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Speaker 5: in one and they'll just stay that way for like

746
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Speaker 5: weeks at a time. I'm fighting and trying to mate,

747
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Speaker 5: and it's it's a disaster.

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Speaker 1: You just gave all our listeners nightmares.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. It's a ball of snakes.

751
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Speaker 1: Guys, this is real. It's out there. It's probably not

752
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Speaker 1: in your backyard.

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Speaker 3: It's scarier than the film and a conda, so imagine that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, finally, well to they were answering your science questions

755
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: about physics and the universe, and so your next question

756
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 4: is about Jupiter.

757
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: Right.

758
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Speaker 5: So I've always been fascinated with Jupiter because it's the

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Speaker 5: largest planet and it's like a gas giant and that

760
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Speaker 5: huge red spot is super weird. And I remember learning

761
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Speaker 5: as a kid that we just don't know what's in

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Speaker 5: the middle because we just can't send anything out there,

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Speaker 5: we can't measure what's there. And so I want to

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Speaker 5: know if that's still true, And what do you guys

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Speaker 5: think you know, theoretically is in the middle?

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Speaker 3: You know? And why can't we tell We.

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Speaker 5: Can see a picture of a fuzzy donut in the

768
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Speaker 5: middle of the galaxy, and you don't know about Jupiter?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, why is that, Daniel, Well, we.

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Speaker 1: Actually have learned the core of Jupiter is actually a

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Speaker 1: huge ball of snakes.

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Speaker 3: They're all fighting.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's a fascinating question, and you know, it's

774
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Speaker 1: really interesting, like we see these things in the sky,

775
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Speaker 1: can we understand them? What's in there? Are they like

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Speaker 1: our planet or not? When I was a kid, I

777
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Speaker 1: always wondered, like, why can't you land on Jupiter? You

778
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Speaker 1: just like sink forever through gas and pass through the

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Speaker 1: other side or something. But Jupiter is really interesting. It's

780
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Speaker 1: got a lot of layers. It's like an onion, you know,

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00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: you cut through it and you get to different stuff.

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Speaker 1: And we can actually probe it a little bit two

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Speaker 1: different ways. One is we can study the density of Jupiter, okay,

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Speaker 1: because we fly satellites around it, and those satellites can

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Speaker 1: measure the gravity of Jupiter, and the gravity of Jupiter

786
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Speaker 1: depends on how much stuff there is, right, more stuff,

787
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Speaker 1: more gravity, So we can measure sort of in the

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Speaker 1: same way that we can measure like what's inside the Earth,

789
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Speaker 1: we can measure the density of different regions inside Jupiter

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Speaker 1: just by measuring how the gravity changes as you move around,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this is sounding like we do kind of

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Speaker 3: know what's in.

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Speaker 1: There, so that gives us a picture. And then once

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Speaker 1: we actually dropped something into Jupiter and we're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: let's see what's in there. They build this thing, they

797
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Speaker 1: try to make it really really tough. I guess they

798
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Speaker 1: use you know, adomandum or vibranium or whatever, and they

799
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Speaker 1: dropped it in there and it lasted like, you know,

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Speaker 1: tens of seconds before it was just like crushed into

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Speaker 1: a tiny pulp. So, because Jupiter is really big, and

802
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: so it has a lot of gravity, and so it's

803
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Speaker 1: squeezing things really really hard, and so it's really dense

804
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: and so mostly Jupiter is a huge ball of hydrogen.

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Speaker 1: But that ball of hydrogen gets compressed by all that gravity,

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Speaker 1: and crazy stuff starts to happen.

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Speaker 4: Well, it changes a mad As state of matter, right,

808
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Speaker 4: Like it most of the baldy that you see in

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Speaker 4: Jupiter is like hydrogen, right, but it's in different forms

810
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Speaker 4: of hydrogen.

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Speaker 1: Right, So as hydrogen gets hotter or more compressed, it changes.

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00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Hydrogen here on Earth is just a gas. We can

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Speaker 1: breathe it or you know, put it in a balloon

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Speaker 1: or whatever, or inside of individuals ill fated airship for example,

816
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: you know the humanity, the humanity, But on Jupiter it

817
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: gets compressed and so the outer layer is gaseous hydrogen.

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00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: Then you sink down further and you get liquid hydrogen. Right,

819
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: so you can press a gas and it turns into

820
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Speaker 1: a liquid, and then below that it turns into this

821
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Speaker 1: crazy stuff. It's helium rain, helium rain rain. It's like

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Speaker 1: drops of helium that are like going up and down

823
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: like clouds of helium then raining down and like helium

824
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: is crazy stuff, and like you got to be really

825
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Speaker 1: really dense or really really cold to get it liquid.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's under a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 5: So it's raining inside these other layers of and it's

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Speaker 5: raining helium.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me, yeah, it's raining helium, and that you're

830
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Speaker 1: trying to I'm trying to actually deliver some real science exactly.

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Speaker 1: And then it just gets crazier, Like as you go down,

832
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Speaker 1: you get crazier and crazier stuff. A huge blob of

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Speaker 1: it is this thing we call metallic hydrogen. It's like

834
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Speaker 1: hydrogen that acts like a metal, like a conduct electricity

835
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Speaker 1: that likes.

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Speaker 4: Heavy metal musical.

837
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Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, exactly, and it can conduct electricity.

838
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Speaker 1: It can be a solid or it can be a liquid. Right,

839
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Speaker 1: So if you went down far enough, you would like

840
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Speaker 1: pass through the rain of helium, assuming you were in

841
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Speaker 1: some like incredibly powerful ship that could withstand all this pressure,

842
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Speaker 1: and then you would either get to the surface of

843
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: the you get like an ocean of liquid metallic hydrogen,

844
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Speaker 1: and then you get to like a surface of like

845
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Speaker 1: metallic hydrogen, which I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know what that would be. Like, we don't have that here.

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00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: We can do not have that here now exactly.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, So that's the answer. That's it's metallic possibly liquid.

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Speaker 1: There's one more layer though, because Jupiter is not just

850
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: hydrogen hydrogen plus is a bunch of like rocks and

851
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: other stuff in there, and that stuff all sunk to

852
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Speaker 1: the bottom. So the very very core of Jupiter is

853
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Speaker 1: actually basically a big rock. You know, it's like a

854
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: big rocky icy ball. Oh okay, you know, like the

855
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: kind of stuff that made the Earth. And so when

856
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: the Solar System formed, different planets got different amounts of stuff.

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00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: Jupiter got a huge serving of hydrogen and a big

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Speaker 1: blob of rock. Earth got mostly rock, right, So you

859
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: could sort of think of like Jupiter as a much

860
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: smaller planet with a really really really big and really

861
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Speaker 1: really dense atmophe that's like liquid hydrogen. It's pretty crazy

862
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: over there on Jupiter.

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Speaker 4: Well, and again, it's not like we have a picture

864
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Speaker 4: of this or if we send the probe down or

865
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Speaker 4: we've taken X rays of Jupiter. It's more like we

866
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Speaker 4: have models of what's going on in there, and those

867
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Speaker 4: match what we're seeing from satellites that go around Jupiter.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And we can probe it gravitationally. You can

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Speaker 1: also probe it electromagnetically, like we can look at the

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Speaker 1: magnetic field of Jupiter, and in order to have a

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Speaker 1: magnetic field, you have to have certain stuff going on inside,

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Speaker 1: and so we can compare like is the magnetic field

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Speaker 1: the way you would expect if this model works. So

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Speaker 1: it's indirect, like we haven't sent probes deep into Jupiter

875
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Speaker 1: that survived, but we have a pretty good picture. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's indirect.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I do think taking an X ray is a

878
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Speaker 3: smart idea.

879
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 4: There, Yeah, get on it.

880
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: Okay.

881
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 5: So I was also wondering about the Big Bang and

882
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 5: if something happened before the Big Bang.

883
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a wonderful question. Tell me, why do you

884
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: want to know? Like if I told you the answer,

885
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: If I knew the answer and I told you, how

886
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: would that change your life?

887
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 5: It probably wouldn't, because even just the Big Bang is

888
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 5: a huge mystery to me. And the how the universe

889
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 5: came to be and how it's all evolving all the time,

890
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 5: expanding all the time, that's just mind numbing. But I

891
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 5: just I'm very you know, it's like that what comes

892
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 5: after the end or what comes before the beginning?

893
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: You know?

894
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 5: So I just was curious if there's any because we

895
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 5: can measure, which I already find fascinating, that the Big

896
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 5: Bang even happened. What of thirteen point eight million years

897
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 5: ago or nice? So just that is crazy to me

898
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 5: that we even know that that happened. But yeah, I

899
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 5: don't know. I mean, why, if there's any information at

900
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 5: all out there, how could that a have happened? And

901
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 5: what could have possibly been before that?

902
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: It's a great question. I think it's a really deep question.

903
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: I think we knew the answer, it would change the

904
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: way we felt about like our whole existence. You know,

905
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: like if you knew like how the universe came to

906
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: be and what beforehand that made it happen. That's a

907
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: pretty deep question.

908
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it.

909
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 4: Would change the human the human condition that much like

910
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 4: you know, people suddenly abandoned Instagram and devote themselves knowing

911
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 4: more about do you know what I mean? Like, do

912
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 4: you think really think people would change their everyday life?

913
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's a delicate territory. But

914
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people believe in a creator

915
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: and also accept the the you know, old universe hypothesis.

916
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: The universe is fourteen billion years old almost, and they

917
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: imagine the universe had a creator because there was this

918
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: moment when it started. But what if there wasn't. What

919
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: if we knew that moment was instead the end of

920
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: the previous universe, just part of some infinite cycle and

921
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: there was no moment of creation. I think that argument

922
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: play is a big role in a lot of people's

923
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: context for the universe, and they're belief in God, So

924
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: I think it would inform people's decisions. Just says, the

925
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: more we learn about our origin and where we are

926
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: in the universe and how big and old it is,

927
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: we learn about our context and it changes people's views

928
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: about how important we are or aren't so yeah, answer,

929
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: so what is the answer the question? Though, The answer

930
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: is we have no idea what came before the Big Bang? Okay,

931
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: and also we might never wow, like it might be

932
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: impossible to learn.

933
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: You know, it might be that you're still in the

934
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: Big Bang, right, Daniel.

935
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is that. Also, like what does the Big

936
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: Bang even mean? Right? Some people think of the Big

937
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: Bang as this moment very very early on in the

938
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: universe when the universe expanded really really fast, and the

939
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: numbers I'm about to tell you are crazy. It's really

940
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: hard to imagine. But like the universe expanded by a

941
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: factor of ten to the twenty five. It's like ten

942
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: to twenty five zeros in ten to the minus thirty seconds,

943
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 1: So like whoa, Yeah, they went from really really small

944
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: to enormously massive really really quickly.

945
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: And it's not moving at that rate anymore. It like

946
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 3: slowed down.

947
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it did that really really briefly, okay, and then

948
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: it's just sort of puttered along for about ten billion

949
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: years okay, and then five billion years ago it started

950
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: expanding again. Wow, And we don't know why, but we

951
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: call that dark energy. So, you know, loop back to

952
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: the podcast. We talk to you about that's the testa

953
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: act man, and you know, the Infinity Stones were created

954
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: in the moment of creation and responsible.

955
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I just feel like I'm equally insignificant no

956
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 5: matter how the Big Bang happened or what happened.

957
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: You're a musical man, so you're definitely significant of those records.

958
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, for billions of years.

959
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: But I think the point is that, you know, fourteen

960
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 4: billion years ago sounds like a long time, but if

961
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 4: you imagine maybe the universe is trillions of years, it's

962
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 4: going to be around for trillions of years. And you know,

963
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 4: technically we're sort of like at the beginning of the universe, right,

964
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 4: we could be still in the kind of like the

965
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: echoes of the Big Bang.

966
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 5: I mean, it makes still makes me feel like I'm

967
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: totally meaningless.

968
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: But I hear you, yeah, and that's.

969
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: Nicely special, extra special dames.

970
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, no, it's both. That's true.

971
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 4: That's true.

972
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: It is both.

973
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: And so we look backwards, we try to understand, like

974
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: what happened to those first few moments. We have some

975
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: ideas for like how do you get this crazy expansion

976
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: and what would you need to make that happen? We

977
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: have like a few sort of ideas for how to

978
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: put that together that are really pretty fuzzy. But we

979
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: don't know is how do you create those conditions in

980
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 1: order to make the universe explode in the first few moments,

981
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: you need this stuff called inflationary matter? All right, how

982
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: do you make inflationary matter? We literally have zero ideas. Okay,

983
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: but you know that's how science works. We're like, okay,

984
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: explain this. We need you know something before it. How

985
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: do we explain that? Okay, now, how do we explain that?

986
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: It's an iterative process? But if the universe started from

987
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: this like really really dense state, it might be that

988
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: all information from what happened before it is destroyed, right,

989
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: that it's just gone. The records were swe yes, and

990
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: you could never know.

991
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 4: Nobody will ever know, nobody like humans and billions of years.

992
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's possible. Or it could be that there's like

993
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: dregs of information and super duper smart scientists will be

994
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: able to figure it out. Yeah, that could be Also,

995
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: we don't know, but it could be that the universe

996
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: is in a cycle, you know, it expands and then

997
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: we don't know what dark energy is doing, or if

998
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: it could turn around and make a crunch. So it

999
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: could be that our universe started at the end of

1000
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: the last universe when there was a crunch. There's also

1001
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: a lot of really crazy philosophical questions, like was there

1002
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: time before the Big Bang? Like what is the word

1003
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: before the Big Bang?

1004
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 10: Even?

1005
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: Mean?

1006
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: Right? Right?

1007
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: Sure?

1008
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 4: And you might think, but maybe there's no before the

1009
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: big bang? Yeah, like big bang? Is it?

1010
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: That's when time started?

1011
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 3: Right?

1012
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: And you might think, well, that's crazy, that's just like

1013
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of words. It don't mean anything but me.

1014
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: But like imagine, for example, I think this is Stephen

1015
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: Hawkins analogy. Imagine you're at the north pole, right, which

1016
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: direction is north? From the north pole? There's no more north. Yeah,

1017
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: that's the.

1018
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: North, the northeast.

1019
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, sure, And so it might be the time

1020
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: is like that, it sort of started there, and you

1021
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: can't if you go back to zero, you can't really

1022
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: ask what's before because there is no more before. Hiness. Yeah,

1023
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: we don't know.

1024
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: I would like that.

1025
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 5: Actually, that seems like a nice organized you know, like

1026
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 5: this is when it started.

1027
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: That's it's well with you.

1028
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice, all right.

1029
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 4: That's pretty that's definitive.

1030
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I appreciate that.

1031
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 4: Cool, all right, so you have one less question for us,

1032
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: even a big one.

1033
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 5: Yes, it is a bit going because I worry about

1034
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 5: this all the time, and I'm talking to you know,

1035
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 5: marine biologists and environmentalists of different expertises, and sometimes we

1036
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 5: get into this place of sheer frustration because of what's

1037
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 5: happening with the climate, and to me, it's hard to

1038
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 5: be optimistic about it. And it seems like we are

1039
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 5: messing up huge and have been for a while. And

1040
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 5: you know, you can look up these like little documentaries

1041
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 5: even from the sixties and like they knew that what

1042
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 5: we're doing is bad and we need to stop, and

1043
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 5: like we just keep on, keep on trucking. So, yeah,

1044
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 5: my question is how do you guys view that? How

1045
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 5: do you deal with it? How do you know, do

1046
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 5: you think that we're headed in a good direction or

1047
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 5: a bad direction or both?

1048
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: Are the things to be optimistic about? And please tell

1049
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 3: me about them? No, all right, I'll see you next time, guys.

1050
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 4: We'll end it there.

1051
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: That's our uplifting podcast.

1052
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: That when when you ask questions are we going to

1053
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: save the earth or destroy? You? Talking about the climate

1054
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: and the our ability to live on the planet, not

1055
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: like if we're accidentally going to open a wormhole.

1056
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: Or no, I mean I think that possibility.

1057
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: Look at me when you say that I'm not opening

1058
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: any worm.

1059
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: But I didn't. I didn't, like, I didn't look at

1060
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 4: the scientists working to create black holes in the earth.

1061
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, blinding, weirdly tapping his fingers. I mean, I think

1062
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 5: that whole thing is possible. Nuclear bombs, Like, Okay, that's

1063
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 5: a threat that you know, at any moment we could

1064
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 5: all just end. Sure, but it seems like we're in

1065
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 5: this slow decline that we know about with the climate,

1066
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 5: man made climate change, global warming, all this, you know,

1067
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 5: melting ice caps and so yeah, that that's really what

1068
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 5: I'm referring to. It's like, can we reverse this process?

1069
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 5: Can we save the earth? How will we do it?

1070
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 5: Or in your guys opinion, if are we screwed?

1071
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: You know, I think we're screwed. But I think the

1072
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: answer is different from what you might expect, because the

1073
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: thing I worry most about is actually the nuclear bombs. Oh,

1074
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: because I group in Los Alamos, I know a lot

1075
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: about like the nuclear infrastructure and all this kind of stuff,

1076
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: And you know, we have a lot of nuclear weapons yeah,

1077
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: and they have a lot of nuclear weapons and they're

1078
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: all pointed at us and where ours appointed at them? Right,

1079
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: and they're on a hair trigger like that. You have

1080
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: to be able to launch nuclear weapons within like a

1081
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: minute of hearing that somebody else has attacked you. Otherwise

1082
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: all your nukes are destroyed. So dumb, So you need

1083
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: like to be able to launch nukes within a minute,

1084
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: No congressional approval, nothing else, just whoever is the president.

1085
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: It's like shocking that it hasn't happened.

1086
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. So now I ask yourself this question, how

1087
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: long can we go on for with people having this

1088
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: their finger on this button and never press it?

1089
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: Never ever, ever, ever, ever, I don't know, billion years.

1090
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think I think it's inevitable.

1091
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 1: I think as long as.

1092
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 4: We think going to present at some point, no, I.

1093
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: Think there's going to be a miscommunication, right, a mistake

1094
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: or a technical glitch. And you know, even close to

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Speaker 1: that several times, it's really terrifying. If you look up

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Speaker 1: the history of that, there's been times when like one

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Speaker 1: guy has just said that no, we're not launching and

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Speaker 1: has like save literally saved humanity. So it's pretty dangerous.

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Speaker 1: We're living with huge guns pointed at our heads at

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Speaker 1: a hair trigger all the time, and that will eventually

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Speaker 1: go off unless climate change destroys human civilization and then

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Speaker 1: we lose we lose the capability to maintain a fire

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Speaker 1: nuclear weapons, so.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully we ruin the planet and you know, then the

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Speaker 5: few survivors, you know, living in the swamp will not.

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Speaker 1: Dive of radiation poisoning.

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Speaker 4: Sweet okay, But you know, I think I have a

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Speaker 4: more positive view, which is I feel like I think

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Speaker 4: I think things are not going to get better anytime soon, right,

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Speaker 4: And I think part of the problem is just that

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Speaker 4: a lot of it is just kind of a communication problem.

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Speaker 4: You know, like our forecast for the future is based

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Speaker 4: on models and you know, our current understanding of things,

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Speaker 4: and they're projecting far into the future, and so right now,

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Speaker 4: I think it's it's harder for scientists to communicate and

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Speaker 4: for people to really absorb the idea that we're heading

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Speaker 4: in a bad direction. But you know, I think eventually

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Speaker 4: things will become more obvious and people population, hopefully through

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Speaker 4: podcasts like Yours and Hours, She's kind of become more

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Speaker 4: familiar with science and are able to absorb the message

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Speaker 4: and hopefully it won't be too late.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be nice.

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Speaker 5: And maybe in the process we could also make some

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Speaker 5: sort of nuclear arms treaty where we just all agree

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Speaker 5: to blast them all into the black hole, or at.

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Speaker 4: Least make it like a two step button, you know.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that that would help a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just a clever proposal from an ex defense secretary

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Speaker 1: of Defense to get rid of all of our stationary

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Speaker 1: nuclear weapons, the ones that are like vulgionary, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: ones like in underground silos, those are the ones that

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Speaker 1: can be destroyed by their nukes. Right, So if your

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00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: nukes are on submarines, you know, or in the instead

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Speaker 1: that you don't have to launch within a minute. You

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00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: can like wait and really make sure it's happening, and

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Speaker 1: you have thirty minutes or so, because your nukes are

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Speaker 1: not necessarily going to be destroyed by their nukes, so

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Speaker 1: you don't have to be on a hair trigger.

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Speaker 3: Shouldn't we just not allowed nukes? I mean, is that

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Speaker 3: a crazy thought? Why do we need huge bombs? Right?

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00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why don't we all just get along you talk

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Speaker 1: it out?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think guns are even unnecessary. Can't we just

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Speaker 5: use a like paintball. Why a nuke replaced nukes with paintballs?

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Speaker 1: That's why is there war in human Yeah, I think

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00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: we can answer that today.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great, well.

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Speaker 4: I feel ethan. I feel like maybe the answer to

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00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: all of your questions today has been we have no idea. No.

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Speaker 4: By the way, it's the title of our book, Daniel

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00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 4: book Plug.

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Speaker 3: Oh there it is. Yeah true? But yeah, do you

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00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: feel like we I very informed? I think there was

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00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 3: a lot of answers today. I mean the Core of

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00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: Jupiter was a big one for me. I mean Helium

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Speaker 3: Rain was shocking.

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Speaker 1: Titled your next album?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that does sound I'm.

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00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: Sure people would be like before us, come on, what

1160
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: does helum Rein sound.

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00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 3: Like Helium Rain? It sounds like almost like a love song.

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00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: It's actually a cover. It's a weird al parody.

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Speaker 5: Actually, No, I think, well, first of all, that's a

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00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 5: really intriguing title. I think anything helium Rain I'm gonna

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00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 5: check out just based on the title is like, what

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00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 5: the hell is that? But no, I think the whole

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00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 5: like the black whole stuff, and if there was a

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Speaker 5: lot there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel I feel what's the word looking for? Educated?

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00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: I got I got schooled today.

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00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 4: Right, here's your degree.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, Yes, it's so gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: Put up on you all show it to all your friends.

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Speaker 3: I will, I will.

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Speaker 4: But I think that's a big part of what we

1176
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 4: like to talk about is that there are still big

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Speaker 4: mysteries out there, and even the scientists and the experts

1178
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 4: are still asking questions. Yeah, and everyone out there, people listening,

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00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 4: people uh, studying this and kids in the future. It

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Speaker 4: can all anticipated in answering these questions.

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00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of these questions that we're asking, people

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00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: will know the answer to them in fifty years, right,

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00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: and they'll look back and be like, ha ha ha,

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00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: those guys didn't know anything, you know, how silly were they?

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00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 5: Hey listen, if people are listening to this in fifty years,

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00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 5: we did something, right, boys, that's obviously.

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Speaker 1: Dig this out of the rubble of human civilization.

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Speaker 4: Our climate.

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Speaker 1: But I mean imagine, like what people used to think

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Speaker 1: about one hundred years ago, the questions they had two

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00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: hundred years ago. Right now children know the answers to

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Speaker 1: those questions. Yeah, So in years yeah, six year olds

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00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: will like casually know the answer to questions we are

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Speaker 1: struggling with today. And I love that progression of human knowledge.

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Speaker 1: It's just wonderful to think about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Cool.

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Speaker 4: Well, I hope people enjoyed that, And thank you Ethan

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Speaker 4: for being on the show too, thing and having us

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Speaker 4: in your show.

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Speaker 3: A bad science anytime, anytime? Yeah, absolute delight.

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Speaker 1: That's right, bad science, some good answers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can find bad science at.

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Speaker 3: Anywhere listen to the podcast. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And also, if you're curious, have a very stupid fake

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Speaker 5: financial podcast called success Express. They're like fifteen minute episodes

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Speaker 5: and they're just basically a bunch of fake advertisements. So

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Speaker 5: if you want to laugh and not think about anything,

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Speaker 5: that's probably.

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Speaker 1: The way to Goo founder Jill thanks for being on

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Speaker 1: and thanks to all of you guys for listening to

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Speaker 4: See you next time.

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