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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts.

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Speaker 2: Now, there have been some absolutely major shifts. The idea

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Speaker 2: that Ukraine's going to achieve complete victory. That idea has

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Speaker 2: collapsed within Ukrainian society. What are we talking about here,

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Speaker 2: Ukrainians on the war versus Russia. You go back to

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, the start of the war, fight until

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Speaker 2: Ukraine wins. Look at this, The vast majority, about three

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Speaker 2: quarters seventy three percent agreed with that position. Negotiate to

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Speaker 2: end the war as soon as possible, only twenty two percent.

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Speaker 2: Look at where we are now, it's a complete flip.

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Speaker 3: It's the inverse.

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Speaker 2: Now, sixty nine percent want to negotiate to end the

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Speaker 2: war as soon as possible, compared to just twenty four

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Speaker 2: percent who want to fight until Ukraine wins. That's a

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Speaker 2: forty nine point drop in this position.

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Speaker 4: Russia's two unsuccessful in Dnienst region has been unable to

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Speaker 4: take it for twelve years, and the constitution of Ukraine

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Speaker 4: makes it impossible impossible to give up territory or trade land.

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Speaker 4: Since the territorial issue is so important, it should be

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Speaker 4: discussed only by the leaders of Ukraine and Russia at

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Speaker 4: the Trilateral Ukraine, United States, Russia. So far Russia gives

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Speaker 4: no sign that trilateral will happen, and if Russia refuses,

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Speaker 4: then new sanctions must.

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Speaker 5: Follow on Crimea again as a Gigna's pulled out. There

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Speaker 5: there's a difference between formal recognition of Russian ownership sovereignty

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Speaker 5: over Crimea.

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Speaker 6: Which Ukraine is won't agree to, but they can make

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Speaker 6: account apolem. They could on that one.

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Speaker 5: On Crimea, they could say, look, we will acknowledge that

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Speaker 5: you Russians now occupy Crimea.

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Speaker 7: We don't like it, we don't.

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Speaker 5: Accept it, but we acknowledge it and we will not

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Speaker 5: try to take it back militarily. Your claims could say

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Speaker 5: that could be a reasonable accountable. On NATO, they could say, okay,

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Speaker 5: we agree that we're not going to go with NATO today,

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Speaker 5: not now, but we won't agree that we can never go.

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Speaker 1: You know, there is concern from the Europeans that President

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Speaker 6: Into signing something away.

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Speaker 7: That's why you have these European leaders coming as back

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Speaker 7: up tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: Can you no, it isn't that's really.

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Speaker 8: Sure, that's not true, But that's not why that's not true.

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Speaker 8: They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelenski from being bullied.

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Speaker 8: But you said that they're coming here tomorrow to keep

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Speaker 8: Zelensky from being bullied. They're not coming here tomorrow. This

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Speaker 8: is such a stupid media narrator that they're coming here

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Speaker 8: tomorrow because the Trump is going to bully Zelensky into

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Speaker 8: a bad deal. We've been working with these people for weeks,

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Speaker 8: for weeks on this stuff. They're coming here tomorrow because

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Speaker 8: they chose to come here tomorrow. We invited them to come.

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Speaker 8: We invited them to come, The President invited them to come.

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Speaker 9: Can you name any concessions that Vladimir Putin made during this?

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Speaker 6: Has any any concess Why would I do that?

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Speaker 7: Where is the question?

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Speaker 6: Because you can't have a piece agreement.

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Speaker 8: You can't have a peace agreement unless both sides give

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Speaker 8: and get. You can't have a peace agreement unless both

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Speaker 6: That's a fact.

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Speaker 8: That's true in virtually any negotiation.

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Speaker 6: If not, it's just called surrender.

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Speaker 8: And neither side is going to surrender, So both sides

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Speaker 6: So, of course concessions were asked.

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Speaker 8: But what utility would there be of me going on

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Speaker 8: Bootin and told them you must do this, then you

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Speaker 8: must do that. It's only make it's only going to

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, the Russians are.

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Speaker 8: Already facing very severe consequences that there's not a single

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Speaker 8: facing all the same sanctions that have been in place today.

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Speaker 8: All the American support continues for Ukraine. And ultimately, look,

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Speaker 8: if we're not going to be able to reach an

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Speaker 8: and POTENTI new sanctions on top of it as well.

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Speaker 8: But what we're trying to do right now is.

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Speaker 6: End of war.

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Speaker 8: And in order to end the war, you've got to

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Speaker 8: give every opportunity that exists. You have to be open

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Speaker 8: the thing to remind everybody, and when the President says,

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Speaker 8: is not our war. The United States is not in

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Speaker 8: a war. Ukraine is in a war, and we've been

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Speaker 8: supporting Ukraine. We happen to be in the role of

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Speaker 8: the only country in the world. We're the only leader

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Speaker 6: Discuss these things. Now.

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Speaker 8: The President has traveled all the way to Alaska all

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Speaker 8: the way back, has dedicated months and months of work him,

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Speaker 8: our entire team on this matter, because we want to

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Speaker 8: see an end of the war. But if tomorrow the

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Speaker 8: war continues, life in America will not be fundamentally altered.

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Speaker 6: So I think that we have to understand is that

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Speaker 8: Been a priority for this president because he wants to

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Speaker 8: promote peace.

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Speaker 6: He wants to promote the end of a war.

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Speaker 8: And I think we should be happy that we have

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Speaker 8: a president that's trying to promote peace and bring a

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Speaker 8: war to an end.

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Speaker 10: Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 10: coming from every angle, but the will to deceive fear not.

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Speaker 10: You found the place for truth, the voice of a

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Speaker 10: generation that still has the will to believe in the

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Speaker 10: greatest country in the history of the world. This is

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Speaker 10: the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: Fuck a lot.

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Speaker 3: Here we go on.

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Speaker 1: Okay everybody, radio stations across the country, honor to be

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Speaker 1: with you is always Happy Monday. It is going to

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Speaker 1: be an amazing week. We had a epic weekend. We

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Speaker 1: are here at the Bitcoin dot Com studio. President Trump

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Speaker 1: is about to host the EU leaders at the White House,

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Speaker 1: including Zalenski, and they are standing by to welcome them.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna be covering that in great detail. Throughout

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Speaker 1: this entire program will be kind of left in suspense

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Speaker 1: as more and more information becomes available. The first, we

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Speaker 1: want to start with a very important topic, all about

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Speaker 1: the courts and how do we navigate what we are seeing,

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Speaker 1: which is this this pattern of judges that are interfering

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Speaker 1: with President Trump's agenda and the agenda that people voted for. Well,

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Speaker 1: no better person to talk about that. And also, more broadly,

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Speaker 1: how to Beat the Left and Court is the author

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Speaker 1: of the new book on the Last Line of Defense,

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Speaker 1: How to Beat the Left in Court by Senator Eric

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Speaker 1: Schmidt from the great state of Missouri. Senator, great to

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Speaker 1: see you. Please tell us about your new book.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm excited. It's available on Amazon right now. Charlie

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Speaker 7: I think your audience is going to love it. It's

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Speaker 7: really sort of a field manual of what it's like

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Speaker 7: to be on the front lines battling this left wing

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Speaker 7: lawfair machine and winning. When I was Attorney general in Missouri,

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Speaker 7: we saw the landscape we took on the left. Whether

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Speaker 7: it was the vaccine mandate case, the COVID vaccine mandate case,

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Speaker 7: we took that to Supreme Court. We won, the student

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Speaker 7: loan debt forgiveness case. Missouri took that to the Supreme

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Speaker 7: Court and we won. We filed the Missouri versus Biden

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Speaker 7: case that exposed this vast censorship enterprise. In the book

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Speaker 7: that's available now, you can read about the deposition of

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Speaker 7: Anthony Fauci, the deposition about Elvis Chan, the deposition of

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Speaker 7: somebody from SISA who most people have never heard of.

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Speaker 7: That organization. They were working to suppress speech, the CDC

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Speaker 7: working with the federal government to supressed speech. So I

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Speaker 7: just thought it was important to sort of talk about

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Speaker 7: what our playbook can be, what it was like to

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Speaker 7: win those fights and really hold the line until President

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Speaker 7: Trump could get back into office. And now what does

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Speaker 7: that playbook look like as we fight the battles to

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Speaker 7: make sure that the will of the people actually is

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Speaker 7: able to move forward. Now that President Trump kind of

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Speaker 7: broke this fever dream that we were in for four.

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Speaker 1: Years, Let's read this from the book. Quote History will

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Speaker 1: show the Biden administration brought the most aggressively liberal, authoritarian,

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Speaker 1: and anti liberty excesses of government that America has ever seen.

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Speaker 1: This book tells the story of how Eric Schmidt and

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Speaker 1: his small but mighty team held the line during those

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Speaker 1: dark days until the cavalry arrived. Tell us more about that,

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Speaker 1: because you were really holding the line, and I mean

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Speaker 1: from fauci to censorship. It's also a model how one

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Speaker 1: state attorney general's office in Missouri could have nationwide implications.

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Speaker 1: Tell us more, Senator, Yeah, I mean, I think Charlie,

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Speaker 1: the first part of the book, which again you'd go

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Speaker 7: Right now and order it. The first part of the book.

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Speaker 7: I think there's a tendency to sort of now that

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Speaker 7: I talked about about how this was all inevitable, right,

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Speaker 7: that it was inevitable that President Trump would get back,

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Speaker 7: But you got to go back four years or so

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Speaker 7: time of you know, lockdowns. This is some compulsory COVID shots,

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Speaker 7: forced masking of kids, esg DEI struggle sessions in this

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Speaker 7: vast censorship enterprise. And what you needed was courage. So like,

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Speaker 7: for example, we brought these cases. They were ridiculed, they

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Speaker 7: we did that. And I'll just take the student loan

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Speaker 7: debt forgiveness case. If Missouri hadn't brought that, we had

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Speaker 7: I think it's important. There's a check writer, Malone Kadera,

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Speaker 7: which is the title of the book. And ultimately the

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Speaker 7: cavalry did arrive. The American people rejected the excesses of

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Speaker 7: now with this band of disruptors and all the good

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Speaker 7: and we're going to use the law common sense that

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And so, Senator, what now is the blueprint for

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Speaker 1: some of the lawfare that we're experiencing from these judges.

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Speaker 1: It's a different type of lawfare, right, but they are

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Speaker 1: preventing President Trump from doing the most essential actions of

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Speaker 1: his presidency. We have well over eighty to one hundred

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Speaker 1: of injunctions. I think twenty nationwide injunctions. It is about delaying,

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Speaker 7: I'm just really grateful that we have a president that's

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Speaker 9: That meeting was a disaster. It was an embarrassment for

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Speaker 7: So there have to be like adult conversations, and you

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Speaker 7: have to be willing to engage people that you don't

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Speaker 7: want necessarily to date your daughter, right Like, That's what

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Speaker 7: the real world is, and that's what real diplomacy is.

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Speaker 7: And I think what they're really objecting to, Charlie is

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Speaker 7: a shift in foreign policy here from this kind of

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Speaker 7: Wilsonian adventurism, this globalist view that America should be the

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Speaker 7: cop on the beat everywhere, and you know, we don't

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Speaker 7: have our own core national interests. What the presidents do

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Speaker 7: is re orienting all of that to say, our role

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Speaker 7: here is to try to bring these two parties together

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Speaker 7: because in the United States life will go on. This

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Speaker 7: is not you know that we President Trump one's piece here,

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Speaker 7: but having the European allies step up a little bit more.

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Speaker 7: If you really believe that Vladimir Putin is some existential

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Speaker 7: threat to Europe, then you ought to be acting like it.

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Speaker 7: You ought to be providing more for your own defense.

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Speaker 7: And you know, our subsidization to the degree that's out

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Speaker 7: of balance of NATO has to be rebalanced. You know,

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Speaker 7: we basically subsidize their their their social welfare programs in Europe.

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Speaker 7: All of that has to change. And President Trump's that

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Speaker 7: change agent. And so I'm I'm glad that he's willing

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Speaker 7: to me. It's a demonstration of strength and confidence that

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Speaker 7: an American leader would take that on. Joe Biden, first

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Speaker 7: of all, couldn't stand up to even do that. His

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Speaker 7: handlers wouldn't do it because they in many ways, all

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Speaker 7: this invasion happened on their watch and they had no

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Speaker 7: real you know, plan. So anyway, I just think this

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Speaker 7: is all part of Trump arrangement syndrome. Whatever he does,

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Speaker 7: they take the opposite of you. They're for crime in

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Speaker 7: DC now, I mean, it's like it's just insane.

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Speaker 1: So Senator Eric Schmid, thank you so much. Check out

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Speaker 1: the latest book, Senator Eric Schmidt. It's terrific. It is

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Speaker 1: on the Last Line of Defense, How to Beat the

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Speaker 1: Left and Court. Thank you so much, Senator Schmidt. When

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Speaker 1: talk more about NATO Ukraine with Matthew Whitaker.

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Speaker 11: Next, Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice News Break,

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Speaker 11: Thanks so much for being here with us. The eyes

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Speaker 11: of the world are on the White House right now,

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Speaker 11: as several world leaders already there meeting with President Trump.

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Speaker 11: Were told that a number of European leaders have already

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Speaker 11: arrived at the White House. This is a live look.

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Speaker 11: As you can see, the honor guard is in place

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Speaker 11: to meet Voldemir Zolensky. Zelensky is expected to arrive at

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Speaker 11: any moment now in order to talk about negotiations for

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Speaker 11: a potential peace deal with Russia. President Trump, of course,

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Speaker 11: on Friday, met with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the commander

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Speaker 11: in chief also claiming quote big progress on Russia for today.

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Speaker 11: Proposals on the table reportedly include Russian relinquishing small pockets

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Speaker 11: of Ukraine in exchange for Kiev giving up Ukraine's eastern

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Speaker 11: Dnbas region major cities like Dunesk and lou Hans in

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Speaker 11: that region, which is already under Russian control. Zelensky argues

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Speaker 11: the region was taken unjustly. But Sunday, top Trump administration

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Speaker 11: officials taking to the airways to explain the process and

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Speaker 12: That the United States is potentially prepared to be able

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Speaker 12: to give Article five security guarantees, but not from NATO,

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Speaker 12: directly from the United States and other European countries. That

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Speaker 12: is big, I mean really big.

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Speaker 8: Our goal here is to have a peace agreement to

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Speaker 8: end this war, Okay, And obviously we felt and I agreed,

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Speaker 8: that there was enough progress, not a lot of progress,

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Speaker 8: but enough progress made in those talks to allow us.

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Speaker 6: To move to the next phase.

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Speaker 8: If not, we wouldn't be having Zelenski flying all the

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Speaker 8: way over here. We wouldn't be having all the Europeans

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Speaker 8: coming all the way over here. Now understand and take

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Speaker 8: with a grain of salt. I'm not saying we're on

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Speaker 8: the verge of a piece deal. But I am saying

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Speaker 8: that we saw a movement, enough movement to justify a

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Speaker 8: follow up meeting with Zelinski and the Europeans, enough movement

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Speaker 8: for us to dedicate even more time to this.

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Speaker 6: You talk about the sanctions.

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Speaker 8: Look, at the end of the day, if peace is

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Speaker 8: not going to be possible here and this is just

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Speaker 8: going to continue on as a war, people will continue

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Speaker 8: to dive by the thousands. The President has that option

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Speaker 8: to then come in and impose new sanctions.

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Speaker 11: And here's another live look at the White House as

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Speaker 11: more and more world leaders are continuing to show up there.

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Speaker 11: We'll of course have live coverage throughout the day here

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Speaker 11: in Real America's Voice. Make sure to stay tuned for

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Speaker 11: the very latest. For now, let's get you back to

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Speaker 11: your regularly scheduled programming in the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 3: The next Great Awakening is here. Welcome back to the early.

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Speaker 1: Cursh out okay, everybody, welcome back. And this is a

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Speaker 1: second We have the Ambassador to NATO, great Man Matthew Whitaker,

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Speaker 1: impact dot Com. Joining us now is Ambassador Matthew Whitaker,

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Speaker 1: US Ambassador to NATO. Thank you so much, my friend,

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Speaker 1: for making the time. You have a very difficult job,

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Speaker 1: and so you are navigating it brilliantly and really honoring

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Speaker 1: the President's directive in NATO. Ambassador Whittaker, give us an

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Speaker 1: update of how the President is thinking about this and

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Speaker 1: will Ukraine be able to join NATO.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Well, first of all, Charlie's good to see you again.

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Speaker 13: Great to be on your show. You know, first, I

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Speaker 13: think President Trump's been very clear that there currently is

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Speaker 13: no path for Ukraine to join NATO. And it's not

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Speaker 13: just a matter of snapping your fingers either on who

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Speaker 13: joins NATO.

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Speaker 3: There's thirty two members. Everything we do.

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Speaker 13: Is done by a unanimous decision, and so right now

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Speaker 13: there's not thirty two people at the table that would

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Speaker 3: Even qualify for membership.

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Speaker 13: That would include some real rigorous anti corruption efforts that

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Speaker 13: I'm not certain that they would reach right now, and

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Speaker 13: many other steps. But remember, the one thing that we

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Speaker 13: need to understand about Ukraine is right now they're the

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Speaker 3: Army.

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Speaker 13: That's that's actually the largest European army because Turkey, who

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Speaker 13: and so Ukraine does bring some advantages in their defense.

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Speaker 13: Industrial base is by far the most productive currently and

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Speaker 13: so Europe. I'm encouraging all my European allies and friends

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Speaker 13: to buy from the Ukrainians once this piece is reached

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Speaker 13: by President Trump, because they, you know, they're going to

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Speaker 13: need that hard currency to rebuild their economy, but they

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Speaker 13: have a lot of things to improve.

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Speaker 3: Before it would ever be on the table.

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Speaker 13: But right now, you know, President Trump has been very

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Speaker 13: clear that they're not in line, not going to be

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Speaker 13: a member of NATO. But ultimately that's up to the

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Speaker 13: thirty two allies.

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Speaker 1: So Secretary of State Mark Rubio said that there's talk

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Speaker 1: about Vladimir Putin being open to security guarantees for Ukraine

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Speaker 1: in return for not being in NATO. Would those guarantees

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Speaker 1: include US troops on the border of Russia and Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: I would be surprised.

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Speaker 13: Ultimately that's up to President Trump, who's mediating, as you know,

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Speaker 13: of this war and trying to bring it to a truce.

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Speaker 13: And hopefully an enduring peace, because, as he says, the

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Speaker 13: killing and the slaughter need to end. It's a complete

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Speaker 13: damage to property and to civilians, and so it needs

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Speaker 13: to end. President Trump is trying to do everything he can,

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Speaker 13: obviously to end this war. But at the same time,

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Speaker 13: you know, Sexuar Arubio, when we talk about security guarante,

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Speaker 13: I think that any boots on the ground, any security force,

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Speaker 13: so I don't think that there would be American boots

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Speaker 13: kind of way. There might be some command and control,

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Speaker 13: there might be some other things that only the US

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Speaker 7: Charlie.

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Speaker 13: I think that's the other thing we've got to make

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Speaker 13: sure because people are using this Article five like guarantee,

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Speaker 13: and I think that's very dangerous when you talk about,

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Speaker 13: you know, Article five like guarantees, because that makes people

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Speaker 13: security guarantees. In fact, they will be specifically out of it,

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Speaker 13: because again, there wouldn't be thirty two allies that would

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Speaker 13: agree to that framework.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just I'll be honest. The perspective of my

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Speaker 1: at all. We think this is long past, exhausted and tired.

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Speaker 1: And I think the President's perspective has been amazing, which

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Speaker 1: what can we expect today? Let me tell you where

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Speaker 1: our perspective is. And you're the ambassador to NATO and

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Speaker 1: so you have to be very diplomatic, and you've got

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Speaker 1: a tough job, and you're doing a great job. But

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Speaker 1: let me tell you my thoughts and you can navigate everyone.

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Speaker 1: This looks as if this is a full court press

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Speaker 1: by European leaders that want to continue this land in

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Speaker 1: kinetic war in Ukraine and are very mad that President

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Speaker 1: Trump might cut a deal with Adam or Putin because

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Speaker 1: for the European Union they view this existential. You got

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Speaker 1: Georgia morony, you have the Germans, you have all the

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Speaker 1: right now, that are likely trying to and cure Starmer,

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Speaker 1: that are trying to paint a completely different picture and

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Speaker 1: potentially continue this war. You could almost say the European

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Speaker 1: leaders are here to chaperone Zelenski through this entire thing

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Speaker 1: in case there would be another blow up. And so

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Speaker 1: tell us about the meeting and then I'll have a

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Speaker 1: follwup quite what's going on today? And can you give

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Speaker 1: our audience some hope that America won't be involved in

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Speaker 1: this thing can be ended?

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Speaker 13: Well, first of all, Charlie, I want to on the

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Speaker 13: beginning premise, you know, like you because we were running

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Speaker 13: into each other. You know, since twenty nineteen, there's been

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Speaker 13: nobody like you and I and so many others Cash

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Speaker 13: Pattel that we're out there, you know, supporting the president,

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Speaker 13: including you know in twenty twenty one when there weren't

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Speaker 13: a lot of people supporting President Trump.

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Speaker 3: And so you know, I have met a lot of.

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Speaker 13: Your listeners and viewers, you know, I you know, I

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Speaker 13: have spent a lot of time with them, gone to

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Speaker 13: you know, your events, so many other events in the movement,

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Speaker 13: and so I have, like you, as a sense of

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Speaker 13: of what you know, the base and what President Trump

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Speaker 13: perspective as the US Ambassador to NATO. I don't see

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Speaker 13: that Europe wants to continue to continue US for And

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Speaker 13: one of the great things that President Trump did and

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Speaker 13: then I'm involved in, is the selling of US equipment

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Speaker 13: to our European allies, so they're paying for it and

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Speaker 13: then they can supply it to Ukraine. That changed the

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Speaker 13: entire dynamic where under Joe Biden, we were just sending

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Speaker 13: American equipment and munitions to Ukraine with with no no payments,

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Speaker 13: no promises, And I think, you know, President Trump dramatically

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Speaker 13: changed that situation. And so the bearing of European security

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Speaker 13: is now on the shoulders of European taxpayers. And you know,

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Speaker 13: President Trump got that right, and I was I was

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Speaker 13: proud to stand with him shoulder to shoulder and work

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Speaker 13: on that. And that's part of the what we agreed

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Speaker 13: the five percent, uh you know, of of of European security,

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Speaker 13: it's gonna it's gonna make a huge difference. And on

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Speaker 13: the war in Ukraine, you're right. I mean this is

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Speaker 13: ultimately it is a European interest.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't.

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Speaker 13: Secretary of Ruby, I think said it really well yesterday.

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Speaker 13: You know this, this is not America's war. This isn't

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Speaker 13: Donald Trump's war. You know, it would never happened if

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Speaker 13: he had been in office in twenty twenty two, and

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Speaker 13: so you know a lot of this is at the

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Speaker 13: feet of Joe Biden. Now that doesn't mean that as

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Speaker 13: a peacemaker, Donald Trump can't come in here, having you know,

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Speaker 13: already settled about six other conflicts, come in here and

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Speaker 13: try to mediate this and get to a position where

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Speaker 13: the killing and the fighting ends. But you know, ultimately

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Speaker 13: those decisions are going to have to be made by

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Speaker 13: the Ukrainians and the Russians because they are the ones

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Speaker 13: that are fighting this war, and they're going to have

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Speaker 13: to come to some agreement. And I think President Trump's

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Speaker 13: just trying to see if there's a set of circumstances

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Speaker 13: where he can bring this to an end.

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Speaker 1: You are correct, it is not our war. But here's

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Speaker 1: the fear is it can quickly become our war because

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Speaker 1: we're funding it, We'll send armaments, and before you know it,

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Speaker 1: we're involved in other quagmi. I mean, Joe Biden spent

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Speaker 1: over two hundred billion dollars in this, you know, proxy

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Speaker 1: conflict with Russia, and so Ukraine's position is a little unclear,

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Speaker 1: is it. Some European leaders are saying, you can't get

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Speaker 1: any of the land back to Russia even though Russia

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Speaker 1: has won it. Can you comment on the land here?

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Speaker 1: Because the land component of this is major Russia to Crimea.

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't have invaded. It was run that they did it.

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Speaker 1: That was an immoral action by the hands of Latimir Putin.

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Speaker 1: But they did win significant gains in Ukraine. How is

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Speaker 1: the land factoring in all this? Because security guarantees Article five?

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Speaker 1: We got NATO off the table. Security guarantees is very

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Speaker 1: very murky because you'll probably you can get basically the

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Speaker 1: way we look at it is like, okay, you'll get

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Speaker 1: the spirit of NATO without NATO. So not thrilled about that.

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Speaker 1: But what about the land. I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of clamoring about this, please, Ambassador Whittaker.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, Charlie, first of all, there is a lot

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Speaker 13: of clamoring and to some extent right now, what's going

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Speaker 13: to happen soon here at the White House is the

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Speaker 13: conversation with the Europeans and with President Zelenski as to

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Speaker 13: what putin put on the table in Alaska. Why President

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Speaker 13: Trump determined that we could take a step forward in

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Speaker 13: those negotiations and in trying to get to a peace deal.

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Speaker 13: But you know, I think a lot of it is

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Speaker 13: yet to be determined. I think even you know, we

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Speaker 13: talk about security guarantees, I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 13: just don't think that there is a complete agreement among

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Speaker 13: the coalition of the willing. You know, President Trump has

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Speaker 13: said that the US would be involved. I don't think

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Speaker 13: that means American troops in Ukraine. Now, obviously they would

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Speaker 13: love that, especially if there is an attack on one

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Speaker 13: as an attack on all kind of a treaty or

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Speaker 13: an agreement. But you know, right now, I think President

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Speaker 13: Trump has earned the space to try to negotiate this,

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Speaker 13: and he's mediating it, Charlie, as you know, and so

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Speaker 13: mediators oftentimes see how far people can come, try to

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Speaker 13: get their best and final and try to bring both

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Speaker 13: parties to a deal that's a deal. It's not a

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Speaker 13: great deal for either side, but ultimately gets the killing.

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Speaker 1: So he more than earned everybody's confidence after the Iran

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Speaker 1: Israel masterclass. I mean, that's and so we've just got

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Speaker 1: to let the Master do his thing. The fear that

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Speaker 1: we have is all these other European actors that are

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Speaker 1: going to be lying to President Trump along the way.

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Speaker 1: I know that you got to deal with them, but

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Speaker 1: they got a whole separate agenda. And President Trump had

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Speaker 1: a truth social about this earlier. He said, I'm convinced

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Speaker 1: if Russia completely surrendered and gave up all the land

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Speaker 1: that the fake news meeting their Democrat partners would say,

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Speaker 1: this would be a humiliating day for President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: And so, just in closing here, Ambassador Whitaker, can you

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Speaker 1: just give the audience some faith and confidence that America

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Speaker 1: First will be resolutely defended, that we are going to

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Speaker 1: have a commitment to this realignment of foreign policy will

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Speaker 1: also in the pursuit of peace, because our audience is

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Speaker 1: a little bit a little bit uneasy, not at President Trump,

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Speaker 1: not at you, but at the European actors that are

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Speaker 1: trying to keep this thing unnecessarily going. Final thoughts, Ambassador Whitaker.

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Speaker 13: My final thoughts, Charlie, are quite Frankly, I think, you know,

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Speaker 13: President Trump represents the America First movement. I'm with him

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Speaker 13: and have been from the beginning, as you know, and

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Speaker 13: so you know, we are fighting hard every single day

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Speaker 13: for America First and for a resolution of this war.

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Speaker 13: And I would not listen to a lot of the

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Speaker 13: noise that you hear from the mainstream media and a

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Speaker 13: lot of you know, kind of the chatter that's coming

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Speaker 13: out of Europe, because again, that's not the deal that

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Speaker 13: President Trump's gonna cut. He's just going to see if

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Speaker 13: he can get a deal done that is in the

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Speaker 13: interests of the American people, because again, this is not

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Speaker 13: his war. It's not America's war. You know, We're not

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Speaker 13: fighting this war. And so ultimately, I think President Trump,

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Speaker 13: like I mentioned you and I know you agree, has

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Speaker 13: earned our trust to try to land this plane if

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Speaker 13: it can be landed.

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Speaker 1: He has, and in their discussions just reiterated no US troops.

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Speaker 1: That is a that is a very serious salvo here.

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Speaker 1: That is the last thing that we need. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much, Ambassador Whitaker. Keeve up the great work. You

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Speaker 1: an illegal immigrant driver, who killed three people this weekend

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Okay, this story can happened over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: and of course the media is ignoring it. This goes

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Speaker 1: to show the where the Bitcoin dot com studio, the

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Speaker 1: cost and the consequence of illegal migration in ways you

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Speaker 1: don't even know. He's not recognized. So there's a guy

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Speaker 1: by the name of Horror Jingder sing Her Jingder sing

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Speaker 1: He is an illegal immigrant. He came into this country illegally.

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Speaker 1: Now he's not Mexican, he's not Nicaraguan. No, he is

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Speaker 1: from I think he's from either Bangladesh or from India. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I think he's India. Yeah, India. The truck driver he

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Speaker 1: made an illegal U turn on Florida's turnpike that led

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Speaker 1: Har Jinger Singh has been charged with three counts of

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Speaker 1: vehicular homicide. Singh got his commercials driver's license as an

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Speaker 1: Florida never should have allowed an illegal immigrant in their state.

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Speaker 1: Why are we putting up with this? He's a Sikh

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Speaker 1: is just kind of watching, you know, dead panning while yep,

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Speaker 1: Unfathomable that a person got this, got a commercial license

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Speaker 1: doing this unless you realize what's actually going on here.

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Speaker 1: California will give a driver's license to anyone as long

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Speaker 1: you're just so casual about it. You know, people say

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Speaker 1: Aren't they doing well? Law abiding ones become unfortunately responsible

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Speaker 1: killed three people. This is your guy, har Jinger Sing.

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Speaker 1: If you are a Democrat, that is what you believe in.

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Speaker 1: Here's a full DHS background. By the way, why have

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Speaker 1: find more of these or else this is only going

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Speaker 1: to continue. On September twenty, twenty eighteen, he entered the

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Speaker 1: United States. This is under Donald Trump, without being inspected, admittled,

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Speaker 1: by the way, it was a whole different set of circumstances.

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Speaker 1: US Border patrol arrested Sing and was served near an

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Speaker 1: I eighty and processed as an expotile removal for credible fear.

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Speaker 1: But then the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service issued

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Speaker 1: a positive fear finding and notice, a notice to appear.

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Speaker 1: He was arrested seven years ago and stayed into America.

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Speaker 1: He got a bond and got a CDL and got

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Speaker 1: a job. In twenty nineteen, immigration judge set a bond

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Speaker 1: for five thousand dollars, and then he just kind of escaped.

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Speaker 1: No one followed up. The Executive Office for Immigration Review

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Speaker 1: reclendar's hearing to April fifteenth, twenty twenty one, in Seattle, Washington.

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Speaker 1: Again the court's delay at Harbinger saying is a criminal.

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Speaker 1: He committed a crime, he was arrested, but he was

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Speaker 1: allowed to stay in the United States and now in

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Speaker 1: ij grants change a venue from Seattle San Francisco, and

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Speaker 1: then in August twenty twenty five, San Francisco placed an

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Speaker 1: I two four seven a immigration detainer for saying with

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Speaker 1: the San Joaquin County Sheriff's office. But he was in

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Speaker 1: Florida and he had a driver's license given to him

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Speaker 1: by California. Red States must start removing any reciprocity agreements

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Speaker 1: with California for CDLs immediately. Florida, you got to step

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Speaker 1: up here, Florida, You're a great state. Enough is another,

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Speaker 1: and that goes for all the mass Muslim immigration that's

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Speaker 1: coming in this country as well. Enough. We had to

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Speaker 1: close the loopholes, and we need mass deportations. We need

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Speaker 1: more people deported. The federal government needs to wage war

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Speaker 1: on sanctuary states that do this. Why are we not

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Speaker 1: arresting mayors that are allowing sanctuary cities. Why are we

889
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Speaker 1: not arresting the people that are involved in sanctuary states? Texas, Utah,

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Speaker 1: Florida could render CDLs from California null and void. Now,

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Speaker 1: what is a CDL a CDL is a California driver's

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Speaker 1: license or commercials driver's license either way. A commercial driver's

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Speaker 1: license or CA well, it also works both ways. A

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Speaker 1: California commercials driver's license it works both ways. So this

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Speaker 1: guy gets a commercial driver's license. Let's try the video again,

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Speaker 1: and this casually does a U turn resulting in three

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Speaker 1: people being killed. How many more Americans have to die

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Speaker 1: at the hands of illegal criminals like this guy? Harbyjinger sing?

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Speaker 1: Is he an American? Is he the best of our country?

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Speaker 1: Of course? Not nothing about him as an American at all.

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Speaker 1: By the way, being an American is more than paperwork.

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Speaker 1: As I've said before, Zooran Mamdani, he is not an American.

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Speaker 1: Omar Fatta is not an American. Elon Omar is not

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Speaker 1: an American. There's something else. They might have their paperwork,

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Speaker 1: but just because you have your paperwork in order does

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Speaker 1: not mean you are an American. American requires assimilation, it

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Speaker 1: requires loyalty, it requires commitment. This guy's added no value

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Speaker 1: to our country, and the Democrats always say they do it.

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Speaker 1: Now there are three dead Americans because of him. They

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Speaker 1: love the chance to virtue signal by showing how forgiving

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Speaker 1: they are of foreign illegals and killers, and nothing about

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Speaker 1: him as an American at all. And now three people

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Speaker 1: are dead because of Harjim mcgirsing. We need mass deportations,

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Speaker 1: We need millions of people a year. We got to

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Speaker 1: ramp it up. We got to get aggressive. We have

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Speaker 1: to empower President Trump to do what he needs to

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Speaker 1: do and go after the Democrats and remove the blue

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Speaker 1: state barrier.

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Speaker 6: Second hour.

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Speaker 1: We're coming up.

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Speaker 11: Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice newsbreak. We

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Speaker 11: appreciate you being along for the ride. We're keeping an

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Speaker 11: eye on the White House, where Ukrainian President Voldemir Zelenski

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Speaker 11: is expected to arrive at any moment. Now you're seeing

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Speaker 11: a couple of views of the south and north side

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Speaker 11: of the White House. A color guard is in place

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Speaker 11: right now, and we're expecting that Zelensky will arrive here

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Speaker 11: quite literally at any moment.

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Speaker 3: A number of.

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Speaker 11: European leaders who are part of his entourage, if you will,

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Speaker 11: who will be joining him for today's negotiations over some

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Speaker 11: sort of peace deal with Russia, are already at the

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Speaker 11: White House, presumably meeting with President Trump. Many of them

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Speaker 11: arrived within the last hour Voldemir Zelensky expected to arrive,

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Speaker 11: as I said here, within the next couple of minutes

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Speaker 11: or so. Hopefully we'll still be on the air when

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Speaker 11: he does arrive, so we can show you his rival

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Speaker 11: and his greeting from President Trump. All of this, of course,

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Speaker 11: coming on the heels of President Trump meeting with Russian

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Speaker 11: President Vladimir Putin on Friday in Alaska. A number of

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Speaker 11: concessions were made during that meeting on Friday that led

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Speaker 11: to today's meeting. Guys, if we can keep these shots

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Speaker 11: up full so that our viewers can see them, please,

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Speaker 11: let's keep the shots up full.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again.

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Speaker 11: President Trump having met with Vladimir Putin on Friday in Alaska,

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Speaker 11: and the Trump administration says that a number of concessions

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Speaker 11: were made during those meetings which led to today. Now.

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Speaker 11: To be clear, the President saying that he doesn't expect,

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Speaker 11: excuse me, a peace deal to come today, but this

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Speaker 11: is a big first step towards that peace deal. A

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Speaker 11: number of negotiations will be had today, specifically as it

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Speaker 11: relates to Ukraine seeding some of its land, specifically the

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Speaker 11: Donbas region. That region, of course, is currently occupied by

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Speaker 11: the Russians. And part of the negotiations is going to

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Speaker 11: be to see if Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski will give

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Speaker 11: up that land. We'll see that land, which again is

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Speaker 11: currently being held by the Russians. The administration also saying

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Speaker 11: that it is going to be responsible or offer some

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Speaker 11: security guarantees for Ukraine, which would present which would potentially

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Speaker 11: excuse me keep Russia from continuing its push into Ukraine

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Speaker 11: and continuing offensive. Here's what some of the Trump administration

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Speaker 11: officials had to say on those two fronts over the weekend.

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Speaker 12: That the United States is potentially prepared to be able

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Speaker 12: to give Article five security guarantees, but not from NATO,

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Speaker 12: directly from the United States and other European countries. That

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Speaker 12: is big, I mean really big.

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Speaker 8: Our goal here is to have a peace agreement to

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Speaker 8: end this war, okay, And obviously we felt and I

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Speaker 8: agreed that there was enough progress, not a lot of progress,

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Speaker 8: but enough progress made in those talks to allow us

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Speaker 8: to move to the next phase. If not, we wouldn't

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Speaker 8: be having Zelenski flying all the way over here. We

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Speaker 8: wouldn't be having all the Europeans coming all the way

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Speaker 8: over here. Now understand and take with a grain of salt.

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying we're on the verge of a peace deal,

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Speaker 8: but I am saying that we saw a movement, enough

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Speaker 8: movement to justify a follow up meeting with Zelinski and

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Speaker 8: the Europeans, enough movement for us to dedicate even more

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Speaker 8: time to this.

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Speaker 6: You talk about the sanctions.

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Speaker 8: Look, at the end of the day, if peace is

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Speaker 8: not going to be possible here and this is just

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Speaker 8: going to continue on as a war, people will continue

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Speaker 8: to dive by the thousands. The President has that option

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Speaker 8: to then come in and impose new sanctions.

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Speaker 11: So again, just to clarify, we are waiting for Voladimir Zewinsky,

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Speaker 11: the President of Ukraine, to arrive at the White House

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Speaker 11: to be greeted by President Trump and then go in

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Speaker 11: to negotiations with the President. Also party to these meetings

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Speaker 11: will be several European leaders, the President of Germany, the

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Speaker 11: Prime Minister of Italy is said to be on hand,

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Speaker 11: the Prime Minister of the of Great Britain, also French

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Speaker 11: President Emmanuel Mark Crohn. A number of major NATO leaders

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Speaker 11: are on site at the White House to be part

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Speaker 11: of these negotiations, as many of those European leaders are

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Speaker 11: also stakeholders in a potential peace deal between Ukraine and Russia.

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Speaker 11: That peace deal very likely won't be reached today, but

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Speaker 11: as you just heard from Secretary of State Mark or Rubio,

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Speaker 11: today's discussions could set the stage for a peace deal.

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Speaker 11: And there's also reporting that if today's discussions go well,

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Speaker 11: there could be another trilateral meeting. That would be a

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Speaker 11: meeting that would include Ukrainian President Zelenski as well as

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Speaker 11: Russian President Putin and President Trump. If today's meeting goes well,

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Speaker 11: there could be a trilateral meeting between those three parties

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Speaker 11: as soon as late this week or potentially.

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Speaker 3: Early next week.

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Speaker 11: So a lot at stake here at the White House

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Speaker 11: as President Trump awaits the arrival of Ukrainian President Voldemir Zelensky,

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Speaker 11: We of course will have live coverage for you you

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Speaker 11: onbrill America's Voice as President Zelenski arrives here at the

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Speaker 11: White House. In the meantime, let's get you back to

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Speaker 11: your regular schedule.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, welcome back. Email us as always Freedom at Charliekirk

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Speaker 1: dot com live from the Bitcoin dot Com Studio, that is,

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Speaker 1: the Bitcoin dot Com Studio. Joining us now is Lieutenant

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Speaker 1: General Michael Flynn, Great American Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, thank

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Speaker 1: you for taking the time. So I want to explore

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Speaker 1: this with you. Because we had the Putin meeting on Friday,

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Speaker 1: we now have the Zelenski you know, European Chaperone operation

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Speaker 1: where Zelenski is being chaperoned by his European parents. So

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Speaker 1: I don't want to into all the kind of like

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Speaker 1: lower level stuff and people attacking Zelenski's wardrobe, and I

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Speaker 1: want to go deeper. Okay, I want to go to

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Speaker 1: what from what I understand, there are three sticking points,

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Speaker 1: the land, NATO, and security guarantees. Those are the three

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Speaker 1: sticking points. Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, How are you thinking

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Speaker 1: about this war and our path to piece?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, so first things, I want to make sure because

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Speaker 14: I think that I've watched social media and a lot

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Speaker 14: of the regular media talking about this for everybody, this

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Speaker 14: war began in twenty fourteen while President Obama was the

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Speaker 14: President of the United States of America, and in fact

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Speaker 14: the time frame is February of twenty fourteen, right after

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Speaker 14: the Sochi Olympics. So this war's been going on a

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Speaker 14: long long time and it is just worn out Europe.

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Speaker 15: It's worn out certainly the Russians.

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Speaker 14: I mean, you know, we can go into the details,

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Speaker 14: but like you say, Charlie, that's nonumber one. During that

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Speaker 14: period of time Russia, this is in twenty fourteen, while

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Speaker 14: Obama was the president. During that time, Russia attacked two

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Speaker 14: of the eastern provinces don Bass as they call him,

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Speaker 14: of Ukraine, and they also attacked Crimea. And since the

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Speaker 14: about March of twenty fourteen, they've held those that land.

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Speaker 14: So you mentioned land right the sense, you know, when

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Speaker 14: Trump comes in, then Trump basically puts everything in a

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Speaker 14: hold and putin basically kept everything as status quo.

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Speaker 15: And there was a lot of back and forth going on.

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Speaker 14: And then when Biden comes back in the war then

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Speaker 14: began to rage in earnest. And this is where the

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Speaker 14: reason why it raged in earnest because the Biden administration

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Speaker 14: really threw fuel on the fire of this Ukrainian war

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Speaker 14: bye by basically funding it to the tune of I mean,

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Speaker 14: the congressional numbers are around one hundred and seventy billion.

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Speaker 14: The actual numbers we think are closer to five hundred billion.

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Speaker 15: So I mean, you know, if you look at.

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Speaker 14: It from the interest of Russia, what Russia wants is

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Speaker 14: no further NATO expansion. And now I understand that Russia

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Speaker 14: would consider some sort of NATO security guarantees for Ukraine,

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Speaker 14: but not Ukraine joining NATO. You know, so there's some

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Speaker 14: there's some wiggle room right there, based on the conversation

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Speaker 14: that Trump had with with Putin this past weekend, right

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Speaker 14: this past Friday at the Alaska summit, the security guarantees

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Speaker 14: and NATO. You know, I think what people need to understand,

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Speaker 14: and this is again, these are these are lessons that

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Speaker 14: we have forgotten.

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Speaker 15: NATO is a defensive chartered military.

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Speaker 14: Organization and that means if one is attacked that you know,

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Speaker 14: then then all others are attacked and then something has

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Speaker 14: to happen. It was designed to protect itself from principal Europe,

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Speaker 14: from the former Soviet Union.

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Speaker 15: It is not an offensive organization.

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Speaker 14: It is not an organization that was designed to do

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Speaker 14: offensive things. In nineteen ninety four, there was an agreement

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Speaker 14: that said there would be no further NATO expansion. The

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Speaker 14: United States signed off on it, Russia signed off on it.

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Speaker 14: At that time, Gorbachev, the French signed off on it,

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Speaker 14: and the Germans also signed off on it, and Great

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Speaker 14: Britain signed off on it.

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Speaker 15: Since that time, and at the time.

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Speaker 14: Of that signature, where there was about, you know, roughly

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Speaker 14: let's just say, twenty nations that were part of NATO.

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Speaker 14: Since that time where we said there would be no

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Speaker 14: further NATO expansion on the Russian frontiers, there's like another

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Speaker 14: twenty five countries that have joined NATO, and so now

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Speaker 14: you have this expansion east against the Russian frontier. So

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Speaker 14: you know, that's kind of where And I'm looking at

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Speaker 14: it from the perspective of Russia, not the perspective of

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Speaker 14: NATO or the perspective of the United States, because I

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Speaker 14: think that we tend to forget. We must look at

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Speaker 14: these these types of gives and takes from the perspective

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Speaker 14: of those who we are about.

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Speaker 15: To sit down with. Right.

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Speaker 14: I also think in terms of Trump, Trump looking at

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Speaker 14: you got a picture of Trump and Zelensky up there. Now,

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Speaker 14: you know, what are what are in the best interests

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Speaker 14: of the people of Ukraine.

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Speaker 15: Right, The people of Ukraine.

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Speaker 14: Are worn out and we are now tapping into sixty

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Speaker 14: year olds to fight, you know, in the in the

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Speaker 14: military for the Ukrainian military, the war itself from a

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Speaker 14: loser and winner perspective, and I've written about this, and

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Speaker 14: people can go look at what I've written about in

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Speaker 14: the last week, that the war itself is a is

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Speaker 14: a lost war.

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Speaker 15: So Ukraine has lost this war.

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Speaker 14: Ukraine has lost terrain, they have lost significant prestige. And

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Speaker 14: we also know we also know this, and we know

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Speaker 14: this for a fact, Charlie, that Ukraine is also filled

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Speaker 14: with corruption. We have seen the corruption in the in

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Speaker 14: the previous Biden administration in many ways. We've seen it

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Speaker 14: with human trafficking, with weapons, trafficking with with the bio

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Speaker 14: labs that are in Ukraine. I mean, these are things

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Speaker 14: that matter, and they matter in a deep, deep way

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Speaker 14: with the other side, meaning the Russian side, right, we

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Speaker 14: also have on the frontier on the border of Russia,

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Speaker 14: we have Ukraine asking to be a member of NATO.

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Speaker 14: And you have these handlers, these handlers of Zelenski that

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Speaker 14: are there now, the Russian, the Russian you know parents

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Speaker 14: that you call them, they're really handlers for Zelenski that

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Speaker 14: are going to try to convince Trump that we've got

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Speaker 14: to we've got to defeat Russia.

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Speaker 15: We've got we've got to, you know, have Ukraine join NATO.

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Speaker 14: Well, that would be like saying, you know, to to

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Speaker 14: Mexico or to Canada, or in this case, the Cuban

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Speaker 14: missile crisis, which we tend to forget in our history lessons. Right,

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Speaker 14: we almost went to nuclear war over the Cuban missile

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Speaker 14: crisis because Russia at the time wanted to put weapons

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Speaker 14: into Cuba.

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Speaker 1: But let me ask you that that's a tie that

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Speaker 1: ties in. Do you think there is a scenario we

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Speaker 1: can end the war without US giving security guarantees?

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Speaker 14: Yes, I absolutely do, and it's not going to be

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Speaker 14: It's not going to be a pretty ending here. So

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Speaker 14: in twenty twenty two, those eastern don Basses, those eastern provinces,

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Speaker 14: Eastern states if you will, for those that don't understand

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Speaker 14: provinces and don basses, those eastern states of Ukraine voted,

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Speaker 14: they voted which direction that they wanted to go, and

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Speaker 14: in twenty twenty two they voted to be aligned with

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Speaker 14: Russia because the majority of the majority of them are

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Speaker 14: Russian speakers. Anyways, Now, the interesting part about this is CRIMEA.

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Speaker 14: Because CRIMEA, it may be there may be some negotiating

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Speaker 14: space there where we allow a portion of CRIMEA to

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Speaker 14: be used by the black what's called the Black Sea

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Speaker 14: Fleet of the Russian Federation, right, so Russian navy has access.

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Speaker 14: You can see the Sea of Azov, you can see

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Speaker 14: Black Sea. I mean, that's a great map rate there

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Speaker 14: because that's an area of serious contention. But I actually

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Speaker 14: think that we can use that as almost as a

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Speaker 14: trade zone if you will, vis.

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Speaker 15: A viv like the Hong Kong issue.

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Speaker 14: But now Hong Kong, you know, even though it's going

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Speaker 14: back to China, there was a long period of time

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Speaker 14: I think it was like I think it was either

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Speaker 14: thirty or sixty years where it was a trade zone.

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Speaker 14: So there's some smart ways to slice this thing, you know,

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Speaker 14: up where Ukraine, you know, see and the Ukrainian people

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Speaker 14: achieve some modicum of peace, there's going to have to

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Speaker 14: be some zone of separation.

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Speaker 15: And this is not a ceasefire. Ceasefires never last.

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Speaker 14: This has to be a legitimate, long term peace agreement

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Speaker 14: where that zone between the Russian borders and these eastern

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Speaker 14: provinces and Crimea, there has to be some sort of agreements.

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Speaker 15: Within there that allow the people that live in there to.

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Speaker 14: Make decisions for themselves. And what we have learned in

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Speaker 14: twenty twenty two is those people decided that they wanted

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Speaker 14: to be aligned with Russia.

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Speaker 1: I mean that who I thought? Lieutenant General Michael Flinn

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So a couple of things, and I think that

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Speaker 14: Trump has been really an extraordinary uh in terms of

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Speaker 14: wanting to sit down and to meet with Putin, to

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Speaker 14: meet with Zelenski, and to continue this dialogue because we

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Speaker 14: should never back a nuclear power.

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Speaker 15: Into a corner.

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Speaker 14: I mean, one of the things that I want your

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Speaker 14: audience to understand is that, you know, despite what they

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Speaker 14: think about and what has what the media has described

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Speaker 14: Russia to be, there was a great poll that was

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Speaker 14: done about a year ago where eighty percent of the

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Speaker 14: Russian people want to have a stronger relationship with the

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Speaker 14: people of the United States of America. And I think

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Speaker 14: Trump has not been able to and this goes back

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Speaker 14: to his first term. He has not been able to

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Speaker 14: really deal with Russia on a in a you know,

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Speaker 14: sort of an equal footing, certainly geopolitically because of the

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Speaker 14: Russia Gate, you know, situation that happened during his first term,

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Speaker 14: and we learned a lot about that. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 14: so what Trump is trying to do is he's trying

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Speaker 14: to be really magnanimous here. He's really trying to rise

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Speaker 14: above it all, and he's saying, hey, look, Russia is

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Speaker 14: a one of the great powers on the planet. They're

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Speaker 14: certainly one of the top. In fact, they are the

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Speaker 14: top nuclear power on the planet. They have more nuclear

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Speaker 14: capabilities than we do. And what we're trying to do

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Speaker 14: is we're trying to stop the killing. That's sort of

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Speaker 14: you know, used to use Trump's phrase. But we we

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Speaker 14: cannot think that we are going to defeat Russia. We're

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Speaker 14: gonna defeat Putin, We're gonna what regime change Russia. I mean,

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Speaker 14: this is a large, large country. You know, it's one

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Speaker 14: of the largest geographically on the planet, eleven time zones,

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Speaker 14: and NATO is not a cohesive organization right now. There's

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Speaker 14: a lot of disagreements going on inside of NATO. There

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Speaker 14: are people that are members of NATO that are not

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Speaker 14: in agreement with the direction that this war is going.

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Speaker 14: And the bigger picture, the bigger strategic view, Charlie, is

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Speaker 14: that the war is not going well for Ukraine. When

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Speaker 14: you look at the comparison of forces, when you look

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Speaker 14: at the comparison of economies, when you look at the

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Speaker 14: comparison of the alignments geopolitically, the big winner here is

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Speaker 14: not Russia. The big winner here and it's not Ukraine.

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Speaker 14: The big winner here is China. And I keep going

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Speaker 14: back to that because when we made agreements back in

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Speaker 14: nineteen ninety, and I'll tell you James Baker, I wrote

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Speaker 14: it down here. Secretary of State James Baker promised in

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Speaker 14: nineteen ninety and they signed an agreement to this effect

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Speaker 14: that NATO would not move quote not one inch eastward

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Speaker 14: yep west. German lawen Minister at the time, Hans Vitri Gentscher,

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Speaker 14: he repeated the assurances.

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Speaker 15: The four leaders at the time in that period of

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Speaker 15: our history, recent history, all agreed to that. And yet here.

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Speaker 14: We are talking about NATO on the border of Ukraine. Now,

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Speaker 14: when I look at the makeup of Russia, and again

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Speaker 14: for your audience, just to give a look a little

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Speaker 14: class here, because I think people need to understand this.

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Speaker 14: Russia has a population of about one hundred and forty million.

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Speaker 14: You know, they're almost one to one minute male and female.

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Speaker 14: I mean, Russia is essentially a declining population, although they've

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Speaker 14: maintained a strong military force. And then certainly they're one

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Speaker 14: of the they are the top nuclear weapon nuclear power

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Speaker 14: on the planet. We have talked about nuclear weapons. The

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Speaker 14: Biden administration talked about them. President Trump recently talked about

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Speaker 14: the realignment of our nuclear submarine forces. We should not

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Speaker 14: be talking about nuclear capabilities like this at all, because

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Speaker 14: that is too dangerous. If this war continues, if this

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Speaker 14: war continues, if there's not success coming out of this meeting,

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Speaker 14: And then going back to where Trump probably brings Zelenski

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Speaker 14: and Putin together, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna I believe

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Speaker 14: that he wants to do this very soon, to end

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Speaker 14: this thing, to come up with a legitimate, not a ceasefire,

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Speaker 14: but a peace agreement, a long term piece agreement where

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Speaker 14: it's not gonna be one of these everybody wins, there's

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Speaker 14: gonna be some winners and there's gonna be some losers.

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Speaker 14: The losers right now, to me, biggest, the biggest one

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Speaker 14: is really President Zelenski. Because President Zelenski, most people don't know.

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Speaker 1: Trumpy thought, we'll be right back. Okay, you said bigcoin

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Speaker 1: dot com studio. You said, Presidents Lensky. Most people don't know.

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Speaker 1: Finish the sentence.

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Speaker 15: Most people don't know.

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Speaker 14: That President Zelenski has declared martial law in his country.

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Speaker 14: He declared martial law in his country, and the reason

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Speaker 14: why he declared martial law is because he didn't want

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Speaker 14: to stand for another election because he would have probably lost,

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Speaker 14: and so he declared martial law and he's essentially they're

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Speaker 14: under a state of you know, internal siege if you will,

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Speaker 14: but they're under a state of martial law inside of

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Speaker 14: Ukraine right now. And that's because the guy doesn't want

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Speaker 14: to hold an election. I think if they held an election,

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Speaker 14: he would be out. You would have somebody going in there.

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Speaker 14: And there's a couple of members of the Rada that

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Speaker 14: have that you know, that have aspirations to be president

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Speaker 14: of Ukraine, and they also have great ideas about stopping

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Speaker 14: the war and coming to a peace agreement because they

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Speaker 14: know that they cannot continue with this war.

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Speaker 15: One of the things that.

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Speaker 14: Russia does not want to do and Russia cannot do

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Speaker 14: they do they cannot militarily do it other than going

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Speaker 14: to nuclear nuclear exchange. Russia has no ability, no military

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Speaker 14: so packed to cross the plains of Europe, and nor.

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Speaker 1: Do they have nor do they have the either the

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Speaker 14: And I think people need to understand that you have

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Speaker 14: the neocons, you have these people that are pushing us

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Speaker 14: to war with Russia, and the only the only outcome, Charlie,

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Speaker 14: is going to be a potential nuclear conflict because Russia

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Speaker 14: will not allow itself to be put into a position

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Speaker 14: survival of the Russian nation is at stake. And I

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Speaker 14: believe that's where that's where Putin actually is uh sort

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Speaker 15: I do believe that they feel that.

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Speaker 14: And and with with Trump's uh, you know, basically stepping

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Speaker 14: into this role, thank God, that he's the president right

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Speaker 14: now with Trump stepping into this role, he actually is

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Speaker 14: the guy that I believe putin trusts and frankly, I

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Speaker 14: think the members of Europe are going to have to

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Speaker 14: trust because put tru Trump actually has some ideas about

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Speaker 14: what to do with coming to a legitimate peace agreement.

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Speaker 14: You know, we'll see what they come out of today.

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Speaker 14: It's going to be This is a verio. This is

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Speaker 14: monumentally historic for what is happening right now in the

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Speaker 14: White House, in the Oval Office, and what what conversations

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Speaker 14: are going to take place.

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Speaker 15: Frankly over the next week.

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Speaker 14: We cannot afford to go to war against Russia. The

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Speaker 14: United States of America cannot do that.

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Speaker 1: And Russia doesn't want that either. Let's be clear, they

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Speaker 1: don't want that, and so it would be inviting a

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Speaker 1: war that both sides don't want, which is the ugliest

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Speaker 1: of all things.

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Speaker 14: Actually exactly and exactly and the and the the big

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Speaker 14: problem there, Charlie is the is the idea of nuclear

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Speaker 14: weapons and and I just don't want I don't want

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Speaker 14: that to be on the table. And the more these

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Speaker 14: these more these people that want this that that just

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Speaker 14: had this hatred and that I don't know where, you know,

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Speaker 14: drives from it a lot of its power.

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Speaker 1: And control and money.

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Speaker 14: But this hatred of trying to get rid of of

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Speaker 14: what Russia, what are you then going to have? I mean,

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Speaker 14: it's not going to happen. It is unrealistic. We have

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Speaker 14: to think much more geopolitical. I actually would throw in

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Speaker 14: a lot of other points of discussion where I you know,

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Speaker 14: and we we sent some of this, but where I

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Speaker 14: Trump talking to putin about some of the other issues

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Speaker 14: that are in play geopolitically.

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Speaker 15: I mean, there are other aspects of the world.

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Speaker 14: That matter, like the Middle East, like South America, like Venezuela,

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Speaker 14: like Cuba. These are all things that the United States

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Speaker 14: ought to be having conversations with Russia about. And you know,

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Speaker 14: here what Trump has to do first. First steps First

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Speaker 14: is we've got to come up with not just a ceasefire,

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Speaker 14: but we have to have a long term, legitimate peace agreement.

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Speaker 15: And that's what this is about.

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Speaker 14: And anybody that thinks that we're going to continue this

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Speaker 14: war with Russia is on a fool's errand, and it will.

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Speaker 14: The consequences for a continuation of a war are so

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Speaker 14: bad for the rest of the world.

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Speaker 1: They were only remaining. If you had a rank at

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Speaker 1: Lieutenant General Michael Flynn one minute remaining, what would be

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Speaker 1: the greatest sticking point that you are concerned about.

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Speaker 14: I think the greatest sticking point is and I think

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Speaker 14: it's I think I think Putin's.

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Speaker 3: Over the hump.

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Speaker 14: Here is a long term security arrangement with Ukraine and

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Speaker 14: the Ukrainian people.

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Speaker 15: I think if that, if that is part of.

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Speaker 14: It, and if Putin is accepting accepting of that, then

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Speaker 14: I think that those powers to be in Europe, and

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Speaker 14: I frankly think that the Russians need to be at

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Speaker 14: the table as well as a legitimate president, a duly

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Speaker 14: elected president of Ukraine, not one that's declared martial law.

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Speaker 14: Then I think we can have a long term uh,

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Speaker 14: a long term peace agreement where where we can allow

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Speaker 14: peace to break out and we can get we can

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Speaker 14: get out with economics, we get out of trade, we

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Speaker 14: can get out with geopolitics, and we can get out

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Speaker 14: with dealing.

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Speaker 15: With the rest of the world.

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Speaker 14: I mean, and frankly, the wolf closest to the sled,

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Speaker 14: and that's China, Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, thank you so much for your commentary.

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Speaker 1: Please plug whatever you'd like, twenty seconds remaining.

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Speaker 14: And thank you so much, Charlie for allowing it a

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Speaker 14: few minutes with you.

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Speaker 1: You're excellent. Thank you, sir. Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. Will

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Speaker 1: in just a second. But let's also frame this entire thing. Look,

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Speaker 1: Ukraine is not going to take back Crimea. That that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. You could blame Joe Biden. But you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: blame Trump. Are you kidding me? You should blame Biden.

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Speaker 1: For the past two and a half years, this war

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Speaker 1: is consistently and entirely of Russia gradually grinding down Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to cut three four forty seven. This is

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Speaker 1: live new from the Oval Office meeting. Play cut three

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Speaker 1: forty seven.

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Speaker 7: Yes, bitter President Trump.

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Speaker 16: So President you say today Russia must end this war,

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Speaker 16: which itself are President Trump? You say, President lendsay, Ukraine

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Speaker 16: can hand the world Russia almost immediately he wants to,

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Speaker 16: which is.

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Speaker 17: Well, I think that's true.

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Speaker 7: I think Phil we're gonna have a meeting.

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Speaker 17: I think we'll everything works out well today, We'll have

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Speaker 17: a try lad, and I think there will be a

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Speaker 17: reasonable chance of ending the war when we do that.

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Speaker 1: First of all, First of all, I think President Trump

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Speaker 1: just like saying trilat because that's like the coolest thing ever.

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Speaker 1: He just kind of throws it in there. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: the trylat, I love it. He means a trilateral meeting, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, if you were in that seat, you'd

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Speaker 1: we can have a try lap. This kind of kind

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Speaker 1: of rolls off the tongue. What would a trilateral meeting be,

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Speaker 1: President Trump? Zelenski Putin, where would it be? It's a

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Speaker 1: good question. Maybe you go back to Alaska, maybe you

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Speaker 1: go to Zurich, maybe you go to the Middle East,

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Speaker 1: to go all the way down to the northern Mariana Islands.

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Speaker 1: All kidding aside. A trilateral meeting is how this thing

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Speaker 1: would end. That would by the way, this now we're

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Speaker 1: talking history in a way that President Trump would be

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Speaker 1: in the history books to end this murderous slaughter. And

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Speaker 1: it's very interesting both Putin and Zelensky are saying this

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Speaker 1: war has to end. Who has the better cards? Play

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Speaker 1: gout three forty nine, Then welcome Jack Pisobic three forty nine.

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Speaker 16: And as you emailed Putin on Friday to President Lenski

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Speaker 16: here as he listened to Russia and Ukraine, which side.

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Speaker 3: Has the better cars?

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't want to say that.

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Speaker 17: I'm just gonna I'm just here to be Look, this

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Speaker 17: isn't my war.

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Speaker 7: This is Joe Biden's war.

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Speaker 17: He's the one that had a lot to do with

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Speaker 17: this happening, and we want to get it ended, and

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Speaker 17: we wanted to end good for everybody. We wanted to

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Speaker 17: end good. The people of Ukraine have suffered incredibly.

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Speaker 1: Peace is the prize? Joining us now is Jack Pasobic

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Speaker 1: live from the White House? Jack, great to see you.

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Speaker 1: What is the breaking news, the energy, the vibe. The

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Speaker 1: European delegation is there alongside Zelenski. Bring us into the

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Speaker 1: context right there on White House Crowns.

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Speaker 18: Well, Charlie, I'm here.

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Speaker 1: We've got to see President Trump.

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Speaker 18: Just meet President Zelensky, bring him there into the Oval Office.

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Speaker 18: Talking with officials all morning about this, and certainly the

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Speaker 18: stakes are very high, but I definitely felt a looseness in,

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Speaker 18: you know, just sort of the conversations I was having

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Speaker 18: with the number of White House officials here, people understanding that, Look,

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Speaker 18: the President is very clear on what he wants. His

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Speaker 18: goals are America's goals. America's goals are for the war

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Speaker 18: to end. Obviously, there's going to be these questions to

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Speaker 18: go back and forth between the Russians between the Ukrainians

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Speaker 18: regarding on contact line and various issues of the old

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Speaker 18: loss and borders, this and that. But when it came

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Speaker 18: to the President, it seemed as though his red lines

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Speaker 18: were set and that he was going to be delivering

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Speaker 18: that message to Zolensky and to the European leaders today,

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Speaker 18: although we already know that he's held a series of

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Speaker 18: phone calls with them throughout the entire weekend, including what

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Speaker 18: we were told a tough phone call on Air Force One,

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Speaker 18: one that even after we landed on Saturday morning, Charlie,

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Speaker 18: President Trump stayed there on the plane. Karl and Levitt

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Speaker 18: came back to us and we said, hey, we landed,

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Speaker 18: what's going on are we heading now? That they said,

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Speaker 18: President Trump is still on the phone. He's still working.

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Speaker 18: It's two thirty in the morning. This guy has not

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Speaker 18: stopped because he's explaining to them and what the deal

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Speaker 18: is going to be and getting their.

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Speaker 1: Side of the picture.

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Speaker 18: So this is something that the President has really been

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Speaker 18: working on all weekend. And now I think we're getting

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Speaker 18: closed potentially to an agreement here from the European side

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Speaker 18: as well as the Ukrainian side, But of course time

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Speaker 18: will tell, And of course President Trump's saying as well

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Speaker 18: that the goal for later today is a press conference

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Speaker 18: between himself, Ursula Vonderlean and President Zelinski.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as you've mentioned before, Jack, you flew with the

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Speaker 1: president from joint based Andrews All they Anchorage and back.

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Speaker 1: What was a component of that meeting that you think

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Speaker 1: the media really missed something about what happened in Anchorage

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Speaker 1: that you wish would have been covered better, that would

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Speaker 1: have further contextualized and got us closer to some approximation

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Speaker 1: of the truth of what happened in Anchorage.

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Speaker 18: Well, Charlie, I think something that the Russian side was

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Speaker 18: able to discuss with the president, and this has come

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Speaker 18: out a little bit in media. Look at some of

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Speaker 18: what Axios has been writing over the time, is that

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Speaker 18: really that the Russians statements have not changed as much

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01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 18: in terms of their root causes, but the idea that

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Speaker 18: they are willing at this point to pull back on

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Speaker 18: some of their claims, make concessions in places like Zaparijia

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Speaker 18: and Here's on some of these regions where the fighting

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01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 18: is still going on, and the fact that they were

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01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 18: at least willing to sit down while they do currently

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01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 18: have the upper hand militarily here is absolutely huge.

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Speaker 6: Look, you don't see.

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Speaker 3: This go back to World War Two.

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Speaker 18: You didn't see the two sides holding meetings during the

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Speaker 18: war or things like this, and so the entire gravity

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Speaker 18: of that moment, having a little bit of decorum, having

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Speaker 18: a little bit of respect for the moment is something

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Speaker 18: that I talked about. I certainly tried to while I

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Speaker 18: was there. I wish that other members of the media

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Speaker 18: had done as well, because there's a lot of very

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Speaker 18: sensitive issues that we were being talked about. And then

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Speaker 18: plus when Putin brought up the shared sacrifice of Russians

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Speaker 18: and Americans in World War Two, then visited that military

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Speaker 18: cemetery after wards, going and laying the reed, meeting with

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Speaker 18: members of the Russian Orthodox Church in Alaska, which has

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Speaker 18: a very strong foothold because of the history there. He's

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Speaker 18: really asking, I think, and the Russians are really offering,

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Speaker 18: not like Hillary Clinton said years ago, but an actual

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Speaker 18: potential reset between Russia and the West.

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Speaker 1: And that is that will require President Trump to kind

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01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 1: of steamroll the European elite, if you will. It's going

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Speaker 1: to require him to kind of push back on this.

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Speaker 1: What do you have to say? So we've been told

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Speaker 1: that there is no security, there's no NATO security, guarantees.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like Diet NATO. The land is going

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01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: to be the sticking point. Let's go to three twenty

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Speaker 1: two though, let's go to three twenty two. Polease, let's

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Speaker 1: play that.

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Speaker 2: Let me go, Come on, guys, let's go.

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Speaker 1: They're just screaming and yammering at Vladimir Putin. What was

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Speaker 1: this all about?

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Speaker 18: I mean, Charlie, I was standing right there when it

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01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 18: was happening, you know, And maybe it's the way I

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01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 18: was raised, Maybe it's having been an officer in the navy.

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Speaker 18: But you know, when you get brought in front of

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Speaker 18: two commander in chiefs of their respective countries, you know,

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Speaker 18: I was always told that, you you know, you wait

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Speaker 18: til you're called on before you start asking questions, or

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01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 18: maybe you raise your hand something like that. We get in,

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01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 18: they start yelling things, why are you killing children? When

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01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 18: are you going to stop the killing? I just thought

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01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 18: that it was inappropriate. I thought it was inappropriate for

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01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 18: the moment. I thought it was inappropriate and an absolute

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01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 18: breach of de quorum. I mean, this was a very

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01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 18: special diplomatic meeting between the presidents of two respective nations

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Speaker 18: that are certainly on opposite sides.

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Speaker 7: Of the war.

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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 18: President Trump of course didn't start this work, but he's

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01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 18: working very hard to complete it. That's why people are saying,

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01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 18: why was he talking with him? Why did he give

1603
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,600
Speaker 18: him the ride and the beast? Why did he have

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01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 18: these conversations? Clearly, as I reported the time, it looked

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01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 18: like they were speaking in English. And it's because he's

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01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 18: working hard for peace and while also at the same

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01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 18: time highlighting and I posted the video that's now been

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01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 18: seen around the world with the B two bomber in

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01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 18: Putin's double take as it flies over his head. So

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01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,799
Speaker 18: he's doing an incredible job on behalf of the American

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01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 18: people to hold to his hold to his promises during

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01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 18: the campaign and actually try to deliver a real keyece

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01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 18: for Ukraine, which is the place I've visited multiple times

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01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,839
Speaker 18: since this war has begun. It is a war tourn country,

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01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 18: and you'd think that the rest of the media would

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01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 18: try to at least show a little bit of respect

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01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 18: for everything that's going on between then and now.

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01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: Finally, Jack, what would you say? I asked this question

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01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 1: of Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. What would you say is

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01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: the biggest sticking point that you are most worried about

1621
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 1: like a sticking point that could get in the way

1622
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: of this deal, that could blow it up, and that

1623
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: could keep this war going. What would you say is

1624
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: the element, the little on the sleeper component, if you will,

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01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 1: Jack Posobac.

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01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 18: Well, Charlie, one of the biggest pieces that I think

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01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 18: a lot people are missing on and sleeping on, is

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01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 18: the rebuilding effort. Is Ukraine going to ask for reparations?

1629
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 18: Is Black Rock going to come in? Who are getting

1630
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 18: the deals on this? This is something I discussed with Secretary

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01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 18: Best quite extensively while he and I traveled to Kiev

1632
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 18: back in February, and Besson had actually said at one

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01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 18: point that he does not want China to be getting involved,

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01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 18: that he doesn't want any country that was a party

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01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 18: to this war getting involved in the rebuilding, although we've

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01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 18: heard things from the Ukrainian side that they may want

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01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 18: China to come in. So the rebuilding effort I think

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01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 18: is going to be a huge and really unfocused on

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01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 18: a portion to all of this.

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01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 1: Jack Pisobic, thank you. Will you be here all day

1641
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: give the audience some update of your plans because you've

1642
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: really been on this. Please thirty seconds, Well, I will

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Speaker 1: be here all day.

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Speaker 3: Human events daily.

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Speaker 18: Will be here live from the White House grounds, and

1646
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Speaker 18: I'll be taking If we make it to the press conference,

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Speaker 18: I'll be there.

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Speaker 1: President Trump just said, I don't think you need a

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Speaker 1: cease fire. We can work a deal where we're working

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Speaker 1: on a piece deal while they're fighting. He also said,

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Speaker 1: quote President Trump will speak to Vladimir Hooting after this meeting.

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Speaker 1: He does not need to be doing this. President Trump

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Speaker 1: does not need to be doing this. I think President

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Speaker 1: Trump cares about the humanity of every single human being

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Speaker 1: made in image of gott and also he knows that

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Speaker 1: Charlie or called nine seven two Patriot. I turned my

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Speaker 1: phone off yesterday, but before I did, because we had

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01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 1: a busy Saturday, I wasn't able to take the traditional Sabbath,

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Speaker 1: but I sent out one tweet. I said, It's all

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Speaker 1: about Jesus. That's what I said, seen by one point

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Speaker 1: two million people. And someone who I watch and who

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01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: is honestly a freakish athlete, and I say that in

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Speaker 1: the most positive way is Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is

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Speaker 1: probably one of the most impressive raw talents ever to

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Speaker 1: play quarterback in the National Football League. From his speed,

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Speaker 1: his agility, his acceleration, his arm angles that he throws.

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Speaker 1: I think he could throw like seventy five yards or something,

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01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 1: just outrageous. Lamar Jackson decided to retweet or repost my

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Speaker 1: post on X where I said It's all about Jesus.

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01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson reposts it and right on cue the left

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01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: loses their mind front page a Fox News dot com

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01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: ravens Lamar Jackson sparks outrage after reposting Charlie Kirk's Christian message.

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Speaker 1: People were going nuts all Sunday night, saying that this

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01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: is terrible? How dare you do it? Now they're saying

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01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 1: they're getting mad that Lamar Jackson reposted Charlie Kirk's message. Okay, fine,

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01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: maybe it's the South Park image that really bothered them.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. And you coul put three fifty two

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Speaker 1: up on stage and literally all I said is it's

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Speaker 1: all about Jesus, which by the way, is metaphysically theologically true.

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Speaker 1: And even if you don't believe that's true, that shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be offensive to you. Just keep moving on, keep your

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Speaker 1: head down. But no, the fact that Lamar Jackson, who

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Speaker 1: I believe won the MVP three or four years ago,

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Speaker 1: Where's Brian Farnsworth when I need him? Brian knows all

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Speaker 1: the football trivia. Nate knows it pretty well too. Nate's

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01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: running around. I believe Lamar Jackson won the MVP three

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01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: or four years ago. I condition I'll get a fact

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Speaker 1: check on that. NFL MVP shared he won twice thank you.

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Speaker 1: My memory is right. He did win. He won two MVPs,

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Speaker 1: legitimately one of the best, not the best, football players.

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Speaker 1: And someone says Lamar Jackson out here retweeting Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 1: hope he continues to choke in the playoffs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the left has completely overstepped their bounds in a way

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Speaker 1: that is kind of breathtakingly remarkable. Another one, guys, I'm

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Speaker 1: very aware that Lamar Jackson probably a zero idea who

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk is and solely retweet because he talks about

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Speaker 1: his faith. But it's still wild to see your favorite

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Speaker 1: players name name right above the second spawn of Satan himself.

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Speaker 1: Second song. It's funny how am I the second spawn

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Speaker 1: of Satan himself while I'm also touting the word of Jesus.

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Speaker 1: That one's a little strange, isn't it. However, this is

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Speaker 1: part of a bigger picture. Forget the left reaction. There

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01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 1: is a revival happening in the West everybody, especially in America.

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01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: Gen Z men are more likely to attend church, of course,

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Speaker 1: than jen women. Gen Z women need to need to

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Speaker 1: follow the trend. Barner Research Group reports that gen Z

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01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 1: teens are more interested in learning about Jesus, with younger

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01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 1: cohorts leading the way in the growth of new commitments.

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Speaker 1: Top music out there, Forrest Frank is more popular than Drake.

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01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: Forrest Frank is a Christian musician and people really like

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Speaker 1: his music. The American Bible Society found an increase in

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Speaker 1: Bible use and engagement. According to the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 1: Bible sales have spiked, driven largely by first time buyers. Finally,

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Speaker 1: Christian entertainment has been seen a remarkable surge from the

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Speaker 1: Chosen to the King of Kings. Worldwide music streams of

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Speaker 1: Christian music are up sixty percent the last five years.

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Speaker 1: Nietzsche famously said in the nineteen eighties God is dead.

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Speaker 1: But what if I told you that gen Z is

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Speaker 1: bringing God back to life. I mean that all metaphorically.

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01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: God hasn't gone anywhere the last one hundred and fifty years,

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01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: but I mean it metaphorically. The West decided to turn

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Speaker 1: it's back on God in the late eighteen hundreds, and

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01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: now we are seeing younger Younger people are far more

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Speaker 1: religiou than some of their parents. It is a youth

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01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 1: led revival in this country. Because of all the BLM stuff,

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01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 1: the COVID stuff, the lockdowns, the vaccines, the masks, the line,

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01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:13,719
Speaker 1: the d duplicity, see the capacity. They can't own homes.

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01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 1: They're looking for something ancient, something true, something that lasts,

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01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: something that won't change, something that elevates, something divine, something

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01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 1: that allows the human soul to flourish, something that is

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01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 1: rooted in the natural laws. Something that acknowledges male and

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01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 1: female distinction. Something that allows for normativity and says that

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01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 1: it's woven all throughout nature. They do not want this

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01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: post modern pile of trash. They want something beautiful, something good,

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01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: something high or something ancient, something unchanging, something unending. They

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Speaker 1: want Jesus, and praise God for that.

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Speaker 19: God bless you guys will see tomorrow. Hire fools in

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Speaker 19: New York