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It's hour two. 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs play tonight, Game three of the World Series on 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Fox Tonight. 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: This is The Herd. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for making us part of your day. Nice job 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: graphics and set Halloween. It's Friday night the Cowherd Grotto. 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: We'll be serving up fresh produce to all the children 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. Well maybe some M and MS two. 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: All right, j Mac, you know, right and wrong is 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: staple on this show. Indeed, and sometimes, unlike Yoshi, I 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: surrender a meatball and it gets hit out of the stadium. 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: So here we go to Monday. Colin right, Colin wrong? 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: Where Colin was right? 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: I told you I told you earlier this year, and 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: I told you last year. AJ Brown, there's drama Jalen Hurtz, 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: head down grinder. You're not going to deal with any 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: of it. They had their best offensive game by a 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: long shot without aj Brown. Maybe it's coincidental, or maybe 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: the only thing that gets in the way of a 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: great locker room is drama, and there's a little bit 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: of drama, it gets people sidetracked. But the Eagles I 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: watched yesterday looked like the Eagles that got to a 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year, where Colin was raw. Yeah, I 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: kicked Buffalo out of the hurt hierarchy. 33 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: My bad. They're still good. 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: What was remarkable is that Josh Allen only at nineteen 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: pass as. They looked like the real deal. You know, 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: what do you need to say when Josh is feeling it. 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: I don't think Caroline is as terrible as everybody wants 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: to say. I think Caroline is okay. But gotta be honest. 39 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: That was impressive where Colin was right. Mike Vrabel and 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: New England first play six and two. This will mark 41 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: the fourth straight year that my double their win total 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: pick will come to fruition. 43 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: They're still in the rebuild. 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: They still need to meet at consistent pass rusher another 45 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: perimeter weapon, but they're well coached. And Drake may Man 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: does that look good just the eye test, accurate size, 47 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: but he moves, knows when to slide. 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 49 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were right on that one where Colin was raw. 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: I thought Brian Kelly would work at LSU. I thought 51 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: it was a weird fit. That whole you know, Southern 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: Twain thing he had I thought was weird. But I 53 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: mean the guy won everywhere at orzran one and Natty 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: at LSU, and Brian is a good coach pre LSU. 55 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: He won big at three different programs. Smart guy. But 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: you know what, it just goes to show that fit matters. 57 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: And this was always I think you knew this. It 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: was a weird fit where Colin was right said it 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: last year when the Indianapolis local media was saying, you 60 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: gotta fire Chris Ballard the GM, and I'm like, are 61 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: you guys crazy? If you watch the games, they're bad 62 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: at quarterback, they're good everywhere else. They're all lines good, Taylor, 63 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: Pierce Pittman. I mean, they could use another pass rusher. 64 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: They're probably one cornerback shy, but the whole NFL could 65 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: use another cornerback. This is a well constructed team. 66 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: That jet. The sky was never falling. In this league. 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: If you don't have quarterback right, it makes everybody else 68 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: look incompetent. The GM and the coach are excellent. They 69 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: just needed a trigger man. And I would be shocked 70 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: if they don't sign Daniel Jones to an extension. 71 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong. 72 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: The Celtics are winless without Jason Tatum, and Jalen Brown's 73 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: even playing well. Listen, the last several years, the point 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: differential didn't change that much. 75 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: In fact, the. 76 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: Offense was better when he didn't play. Now, I didn't 77 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: think the team was better, but they've been fine without 78 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum for several years. Right now, their offense thirtieth 79 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: in the NBA, dead last. So I mean, listen, we 80 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: know he's a good player, good kid. In the short term, 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: they were fine without Jason Tatum. In the long term, 82 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: it is ugly because Jalen Brown's playing well. 83 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: Jaylen Brown always plays well. 84 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, Colorado got baked again fifty three 85 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: to seven, lost to Utah down forty three to nothing 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: at half. Listen, I said Deon Sanders was great to 87 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: get attention. Dion Sanders was good for energy and some recruiting. 88 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: He's not an. 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: Elite football coach. They're one and four in the Big twelve. 90 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: You know, again, not every coach is just about w's. 91 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: I think at Colorado with some of their revenue issues, 92 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: nil World, I think Dion was a good choice. 93 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: But we always said. 94 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: This staff, I mean that, come on, I mean, you 95 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: have to be one thousand percent committed to coaching to 96 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: be really, really even good at it, and I just 97 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: never thought Dion was that level of a coach. Where 98 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: Colin was right, I have never waivered on Justin Herbert. 99 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: Top five quarterback period and right now, second in touchdown 100 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: passes in the NFL, first in passing yards, with a 101 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: number three running back back up everywhere on the offensive line, 102 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: he's faced twenty more pressures than the next quarterback in 103 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. They are five and three. They just blew 104 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: out the Viking. And again, he is doing it with 105 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: most of the offense either gone or not playing at 106 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: one hundred. 107 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: Percent, where Colin was raw. 108 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm making an exception with quarterbacks wearing their hat 109 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: on backwards. Justin was at a Laker game with singer 110 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: and model Madison Beer. Listen, I'm sorry, I'm a true romantic. 111 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Everything in life has exceptions. It was his 112 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: off day. I mean he didn't have practice. 113 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: I mean he look at it. 114 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: It's like a hero. I mean everybody in life has 115 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: to make one exception. Okay, I made a big exception, 116 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: and oh my bad. 117 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: I'm a true romantic. 118 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: I see, you know a lot more than just Valentine's 119 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: Day cards going forward. So I'm going to make a 120 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: little tiny exception with quarterbacks and their hat on backwards. 121 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: Influencer artist, Hey, it's an artist. Maybe maybe he's becoming 122 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: a little more ad libby and with that Matt Hasselback 123 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: eighteen years in the NFL. Listen, I have a lot 124 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: of kids, and I have rules. 125 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: I am. 126 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: I'll make a second an exception on quarterbacks. 127 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: I like you and herlb it. Hey, I don't know. 128 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: Romantic is that the right word? 129 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: Listen for him. He's got such beautiful hair. Though it's 130 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: kind of like a headband. He's just like keeping it back. 131 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: He's like Jim McMahon in that headband. Said Roselle, I mean, 132 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 3: look at that beautiful hair. 133 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 134 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: He has a lot of beautiful things there and that 135 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: his hair. 136 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: You're such a romantic. You're such a romantic. 137 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I know. All right. 138 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: So I'm watching the Packers last night and I said 139 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: this during the break about half hour ago, and j 140 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: Mack rolled his eyes and I said, listen, stop telling 141 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: me Jordan Loves up and coming. 142 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: That's elite. R moobilly. 143 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: I think he's got a little he got a little 144 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: mahomes and in where he can do the underneath stuff. 145 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: You can put him on script. But I'm sorry, Matt. 146 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: He is just one of those guys that the ball 147 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: looks different. It's just he's such a natural, fluid guy. 148 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: What do you see. 149 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's awesome. Listen, it's so weird what the Packers 150 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: have done. They went from far to Rogers to Love 151 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: so seamlessly. In a world where no one can get 152 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: the quarterback, right, those three guys kind of sort of 153 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: started playing like each other. 154 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 4: I think Jordan Love plays a lot like Aaron Rodgers, 155 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: you know. 156 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 3: And I know Matt Lafleur is there same coaches Rogers 157 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: finished with, and that's who's training him up. 158 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: He's great. 159 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 3: I think one of the best things about him is 160 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: his calmness, his demeanor when the moments get huge, he's 161 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: got a Jalen Hurts vibe about him, like yeah, yeah, 162 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: this is really cool. 163 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: This is fun. 164 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: I get to go play against Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau, 165 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 3: no big deal. Yeah we're gonna do a jersey swap later. 166 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: Like that's awesome, Like it's incredible to have that level 167 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: of you know, like, this is a guy he probably 168 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: grew up watching, and now everywhere he goes in Green 169 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: Bay people love Aaron Rodgers. A lot of those guys 170 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: have super Bowl rings on their fingers are at home 171 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 3: because Aaron Rodgers. 172 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: Helped him get it. 173 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: And yet he's like, yeah, it's cool, Like I'm going 174 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: in with my guys that might really be his guys. 175 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 3: They're all hugging before the game, and I'm going to 176 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: be like, yeah, this is my team now, I got it. 177 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to this. 178 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 4: I love that about him. 179 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: And yeah, sure, like all the throwing and all that stuff, 180 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: he's got that as well. 181 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. 182 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: Listen, everybody could beat up on Aaron Rodgers. But there's 183 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: sometimes you go to a company and the company has 184 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: a culture and there's only so much you can do 185 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: within that culture. And this is a spend their money 186 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: on defense, a defensive head coach, they're still on fourth 187 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: and three, punting it or kicking field goals. I think 188 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: Aaron's doing kind of about as much as a forty 189 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: one year old quarterback can do with Pittsburgh's offense. 190 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: Or am I wrong? 191 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 5: No? 192 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: And they're the Pittsburgh Steelers, like they're never going to change. 193 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: They're bigger than any one player. I don't care who 194 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: the player is. For decades now. Aaron Rodgers breathed life 195 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: into that offense and that excitement. I think the def 196 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: just is in matching the intensity, they're not matching the 197 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 3: level of execution. They spend a lot of money in 198 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: that defense. I don't know if you know that, but 199 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: they're not playing like it. And I think in that 200 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: game there were just so many efficient runs from the Packers, 201 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: especially late in the game. 202 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 4: And by efficient run, I mean. 203 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: Like if it's second and two and you run the 204 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: ball for three yards, like that's perfect, that's called an 205 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 3: efficient run, and so like, not every run has to 206 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: be an explosive run, but when it's a running down, 207 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: we're moving the chains. That's where the Packers couldn't help 208 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: their quarterback out. They couldn't help out Aaron Rodgers on 209 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: the other side of the ball. So no, I mean, 210 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: this is still a playoff team in my mind because 211 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: their division is so bad and they can figure it out. 212 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: But the leadership in that locker room in Pittsburgh has 213 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: to step up and say, hey, guys, listen, this is 214 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: where the Pittsburgh Steelers. We're known for our defense, Like, 215 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: let's be known for it in a good way, not 216 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: in the way that, hey, we're letting down. 217 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 4: Our Hall of Fame quarterback. 218 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: So this happens in the NBA. 219 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: It happens in the NFL, not that frequently, but from 220 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: time to time, a really great player leaves and so 221 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: does some drama and the team plays better. And I've 222 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: seen it happen in the NBA. It's not just all 223 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: about you know, great players. Chemistry is so undervalue. You 224 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: live with these guys for eight nine months. AJ Brown 225 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: doesn't play. The offense looked like the Super Bowl offense, 226 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: and it's like, I like AJ Brown, I love him, 227 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: But is it a coincidence they were that good yesterday? 228 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: But they didn't play the Giants? I mean, so, I mean, 229 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's a rivalry game. 230 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: The Giants. 231 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: Listen, the Giants had too many mental errors, mental mistakes 232 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: on defense. They let Saquon Barkley go for the first 233 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: touchdown of the game. I think AJ bark I think 234 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: AJ Brown is an incredible player and very important in 235 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: Phillies offense to all their success. They didn't need him yesterday. 236 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: They played out standing without him yesterday. But they also 237 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: rushed the ball for like almost three hundred yards. Dallas 238 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: Goddard is a weapon. He showed up big time again. 239 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: You know, the Giants didn't do a great job of 240 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: trying to stop him, and then other people stepped up. 241 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: Like late in the game, they're going all out blitz. 242 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts is forced to throw the ball. He throws 243 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: a beautiful pass to Dotson. He goes up in mosses 244 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 3: somebody like this. This is a complete team. This is probably, 245 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: you know, a lot of people's favorite to be the 246 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: Super Bowl representative for the NFC. I think this is 247 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: a team that I believe in. I've believed in them 248 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: for a long time. The drama they seem to be 249 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: used to it. There's there's something about the mental toughness 250 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 3: of this team. But yes, I would agree you don't 251 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 3: want an energy vampire on the sidelines, and diva wide 252 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: receivers can do that. In this case, I don't think 253 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: aj Brown is that. I think his importance to the 254 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: team is value to the team is real. 255 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about this this morning. Is 256 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: that just because a baker and a chef are in 257 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: the kitchen, they have two different skill sets. One baking 258 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: is following you know, recipes, and you know, chef is 259 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: a little of this and a little of that and 260 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: a pinch of that. Is that quarterbacks we all just 261 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: think big strong pros. Oh okay, that's not it. Some 262 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: guys are timing and rhythm quarterbacks, and some coaches are 263 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: timing and rhythm coaches. And then you get Cam Newton 264 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: or you get kind of far. I guess you could 265 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: say he's just kind of listen, I'm gonna have libs 266 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: some of this stuff. I watch Ben Johnson and I 267 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: watch Caleb on script. That's one quarterback, but the other 268 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: twelve possessions. 269 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be. 270 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: Harsh, but it just doesn't it shouldn't be this hard, Matt, 271 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: should it? 272 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 3: Well, I think Caleb Williams is still a work in progress. 273 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 3: He's a young quarterback, and you know, like I get 274 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 3: what you're saying, Like the baker and the chef, the 275 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: scouts are gonna love this guy. He has wow plays 276 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: and explosive plays that are just like amazing, Like you 277 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 3: can't coach that. You can't find it anywhere. That's what 278 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: scouts love. But what coaches love is consistency. I put 279 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: myself in that boat too. I want consistency. I just 280 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: want you to do it the right way. And I 281 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: think Caleb is trying. He's trying to throw on time. 282 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: He's trying desperately not to take sacks, but in the 283 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: process kind of like what Will Levis. 284 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: Did last year. He was trying so hard not to 285 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,119 Speaker 4: take sacks. 286 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: He's you know, intentional grounding here and there. He's hurting 287 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: his team in other ways. He's missing guys that are 288 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: wide open and so listen. I'm not trying to throw stones. 289 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: I just think he's a work in progress. But to me, 290 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: so far, what I see, I think Ben Johnson is 291 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: here to stay as a great head coach. Will it 292 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: work out with these two guys, I'm not so sure. 293 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: I'm not so sure. 294 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: The wild plays might be enough for Ben Johnson to say, hey, 295 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: I believe in my ability as a coach. 296 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: I can mold this guy. 297 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: But at the same time, the Bears are a talented 298 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: team and they want to be winning games. They don't 299 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: want to be losing to the Baltimore Ravens the way 300 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: they did yesterday. 301 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: I got to give credit. I know it's not a 302 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: flashy story. I thought Tyler Hunt me as a backup. 303 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: That's about as well as a backup can play. I mean, honestly, 304 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: I kept waiting for a mistake. I kept figuring, Okay, 305 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: he's a backup I was. I mean, I looked at him, 306 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's a professional athlete. I could not 307 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: believe how efficient he was. Or is it the Bears 308 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: defense is overrated. 309 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: I actually think he's a really good player and he's 310 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: a great fit to back up Lamar. 311 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: I think he could be somebody's starter. 312 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: Last year he didn't play great, and I'm not sure 313 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: why because every year before that he was very, very impressive. 314 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: To me, I think he's one of the I don't know. 315 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: I would love to coach him. I think he's a 316 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: fun player to watch. I think he does everything right. 317 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: He plays on time, you know, I don't know if 318 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: there's a huge fan club for him, but I'm in 319 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: it if there is one. 320 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: Okay. 321 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: So sometimes, you know, it's so funny about this league. 322 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: We've seen Baker and Donald reinvent themselves. Daniel Jones was 323 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: so bad with the Giants. It's hard to unsee it. 324 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: So Kyle Shanahan, you know, he saw the Sam Donald, 325 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: the Caroline and the Jets, and he's like, no, no, I 326 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: see it. I see the talent. He brings him out, 327 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: and then Sam changes. I looked at Daniel Jones and 328 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm totally wrong. 329 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, I. 330 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: Can't unsee it. He's too stiff. I know he's a big, 331 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: strong guy, but he's too stiff. It looks it's too hard. 332 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: Are you shocked? I mean, I think Indy's going to 333 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: give him an extension. I think you have to. Are 334 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: you shocked by it? No, I'm not shocked at all. 335 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: In fact, I feel like I called this. 336 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: This is you know, he went and spent some time 337 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: with the Minnesota Vikings, like, you know, similar to what 338 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold did with the forty nine ers, similar to 339 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: what really to what Mac Jones. 340 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: Is trying to do right now. And he showed up 341 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 4: and everything I. 342 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: Heard in Indianapolis from day one, they were like, look out, 343 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: I know, we drafted a guy really high in the 344 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: first round, but Daniel Jones is going to be our starter. 345 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: He's been unbelievably impressive and top to bottom. I don't 346 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 4: care who you talk. 347 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: To, from ownership on all the way down, people have 348 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: been saying from day one like, this is going to 349 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: be our guy. 350 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: This is going to be our guy. Reminds them of 351 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 4: a lot. 352 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: Of the characteristics that they had and some of the 353 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: other great quarterbacks that they had there in the past. 354 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: So listen, this is maybe one of the best teams 355 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: in football and no one's given him credit. 356 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: I think it's starting to come. 357 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: They got a huge one coming up against Pittsburgh that'll 358 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: be a challenge, but if they go and beat Pittsburgh, 359 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: I think there's no denying it. We could talk about 360 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones as a possible MVP candidate, if not his 361 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: teammate Jonathan Taylor, and we could talk about the Indianapolis 362 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: Colts possibly being the one seed in the afc UH 363 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 3: with a you know, with a first round by and 364 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 3: hosting playoff games in a dome stadium. 365 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 4: Look out for the Indianapolis Colts. They're for real. 366 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I okay, So a full disclosure. I saw bo 367 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: Nicks play twice in College Live and I was a 368 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: huge fan, and I covered Oregon for a long time, 369 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: so I just liked the program. And I'm a huge 370 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: Sean Payton guy because I worked with him at Fox 371 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: per a year and I just think he's really bright 372 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: and has a million ideas. Not all of them right, 373 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: but he's got a million ideas. I'm watching them first 374 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: of all, between Sutton and Mims and Franklin and this 375 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: this kid from Illinois. Those guys are like long, they 376 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: run well, they can stretch the field. 377 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. 378 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: When I, as a consumer watched Denver, I just see 379 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: athletes everywhere. 380 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: Weigh in on that offense. 381 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: Bow and Sean, well, they got a great defense and 382 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: then that helps the offense. And Sewn is very confident, 383 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: knows exactly what he wants to do, has done it 384 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: for a long time, and as a quarterback, he's exactly 385 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 3: the kind of guy you didn't want to play for. 386 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: I think what bow Nix is so great at and 387 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: a lot of people you know, and I would say 388 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: every coach I ever had would say, hey, quarterbacks, you 389 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: make so much money because of what we expect you 390 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: to do on third down, red zone in two minutes. 391 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: And that's where bo Nicks to me, has been outstanding. 392 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: Third down, even fourth down. He's been incredible with his arm, 393 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 3: with his legs, with his mind, just really impressive. And 394 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 3: you think about that draft class. The draft class that 395 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: last year was Jaden Daniels. This year everyone's talking about 396 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: Drake may Both those guys are outstanding. But Bo Necks 397 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 3: he's right there. He's right there both last year and 398 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: this year. And some people will like, oh, he's streaky. Yeah, 399 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: guess what when he's when he's on fire, he's on fire. 400 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: Similar I don't want to say it, but similar to 401 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: Drew Brees and a little bit unstoppable. 402 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: Like the defense. 403 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what you do differently, And this this 404 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 3: tandem with Sean Payton like it's it's legit. 405 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 4: Are they a super Bowl contender? 406 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: Yeah? 407 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: If they can come out of their division, if they 408 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: could win that division, they can win the super Bowl. 409 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: That's a great division. So I'm a believer in bo Nicks. 410 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 3: I don't know how you can't be Yeah, you. 411 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: Know, It's funny. 412 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm watching Green Bay last night and I'm watching Denver yesterday, 413 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: and they just these coaches Lafleura and Peyton have a 414 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: way and I don't. And I'm going to ask you 415 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: this that whenever they need a clever play, I'm always 416 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: amazed when Andy Reid gets Sky Moore not only a 417 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: touchdown of the Super Bowl, he's opened by twenty yards at. 418 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 2: The nine yard line. You're like, how the hell do 419 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: you do that? How do you fool everybody? 420 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: How many times did you with like a Mike holmgrin, 421 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: How many times did you go into a game? How 422 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: many plays did you have that were like, okay, we 423 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: need a touchdown? How many do you go into a game? 424 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: Because I swear to God, these offensive coaches, the best guys, 425 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: just have a way of dialing up a play and 426 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: it's not just open, it's easily open in this tiny 427 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: congestion space. 428 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like listen, I might be like bursting your bubble 429 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: here a little bit. But like sometimes you'll put a 430 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: play in for a team. Let's just say you're Sean 431 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: Payton and the Broncos. You put a play in for 432 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: the Raiders and you'd ended up not calling it, but like, man, 433 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: that would have been of a great, great play, and 434 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: you keep practicing it for like a week, two weeks, 435 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: three weeks, four weeks, and now you're going to use 436 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,239 Speaker 3: it against the next opponent like five weeks later, and 437 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: it works on them, and they're like, oh, they schemed 438 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 3: up this defense. And it's like, you know, the funny 439 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: thing is the name of that play is Raider, because 440 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: we put it against it for the Raiders like five 441 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 3: weeks ago. We've just been practicing for so long we 442 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 3: finally got the stupid thing called that call sheets so 443 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: stinking big, you can't you know, sometimes you just don't 444 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: get to all of them, and so like yeah, it's 445 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 3: like sometimes like oh, we schemed them up, Like we 446 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 3: didn't put it in for this team. 447 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 6: You know. 448 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 3: I think the Philly Special might have even been that 449 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 3: kind of a play the Eagles that put it in 450 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 3: way earlier in the season. So the last game of 451 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: the seasons the Super Bowl, and Nick Foles says to 452 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: Doug Peterson be like, hey. 453 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 4: You want to run pH Special? 454 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: Like I've been practicing this thing all year, Like, let's 455 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: just go ahead and run. 456 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: It so that that happens. 457 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: I see plays happen all the time, and I'm like, 458 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 3: I doubt they put that in for this team. 459 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: Well you did burst my bubble. 460 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: But it's great information and it's anytime I see that, 461 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, what a brilliant coach. And I'm like, yeah, 462 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: it's just like in the dust bin in the back 463 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: room and you pull it out because you need. 464 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 4: It, you know, yeah, exactly. 465 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: All right, great stuff. 466 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: Matt hassell back on a Monday, Thanks Bud, all right, 467 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: see you. Yeah, that's such good information because Lafleur had 468 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: one of those last night against the Steelers, and. 469 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that guy's a genius. 470 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: You may have he may have had that thing that 471 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: the Lions in the opener and he didn't get to it. 472 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: And boy, Sean Payton and Andy Reid, they just you 473 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: get into these fourth and ones or a two point conversion. 474 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's gonna work. It's gonna work. And 475 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: I love the fact that he likes Tyler Huntley too. 476 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm watching the Ravens. I'm like, you've never seen Tyler 477 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: Huntley play. 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But LSU 499 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: is considered by many to be, along with Georgia maybe Texas, 500 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: the best college football job because of all the high 501 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: school talent. With an hour of the campus, Lane Kifvin's 502 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna have options including staying at Old Miss. They're gonna 503 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: make the playoff now, they got three or four games 504 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: left or mostly at home. So Lane Kiffin is going 505 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: to make the playoff. Reinvented himself. 506 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 2: Good for him. Jmack with the news. Now this is 507 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: the herd Line news. 508 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 6: All right, Colin, we got to start with an ugly 509 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 6: story in the NFL, and that's the Baltimore Ravens skirting 510 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 6: the injury reports stuff all week with this Lamar Jackson. 511 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 6: This has gotten ugly and they're gonna get slapped on 512 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 6: the wrist for it. 513 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 8: So it's weird. 514 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: Colin. 515 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 6: Friday, we were on the show, Lamar Jackson was listed 516 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 6: as a full participant in practice. 517 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 8: John Harbaugh said he practiced in full. 518 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 6: So then on Saturday, the Ravens said, oh, that was 519 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 6: our mistake. He was actually limited in practice and he 520 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 6: was with the scout team. And then all of a sudden, 521 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 6: it's like Lamar's not playing, and Colin, I don't know 522 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 6: how you I know, You're like, hey, it's no big deal. 523 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 6: Games with shit, blah blah blah. They're playing with the 524 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 6: minds of the of the Chicago Bears, keeping them guessing 525 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 6: whether it's Lamar or snow Pudley Kyle. 526 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 8: This is bad. 527 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 6: Here's John Harbaugh explaining it. 528 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 9: It's an honest mistake. I mean, he really is an 529 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 9: honest mistake. I can tell you this. Nobody's trying to 530 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 9: hide anything. I mean, there's no advantage. There's no advantage 531 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 9: to be gained, you know. 532 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: With that. 533 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 9: In their defense, you know, he practiced a full practice. 534 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 9: I think they felt like because he did the same 535 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 9: number of reps, it was a full practice. But when 536 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 9: you dig in and you read the rule, at the 537 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 9: end of the day, it wasn't right. So that's what 538 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 9: it was. That's why as soon as we found out, 539 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 9: we changed it. 540 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 541 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to be cynical media guy. Oh really, Okay, 542 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: I believe him. 543 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 8: He's the only coach in the league. 544 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 6: What fifteen twenty years and he's like, oh, when you 545 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 6: read the rule. 546 00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: I didn't know the rule. 547 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers players did not know the 548 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: overtime rule in the Super Bowl. 549 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 8: It's been changed. Come on, stop it, Andrew. Reports have 550 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 8: come on. This has been around for a while. I 551 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 8: know they're a good organization. MC collin I is a 552 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 8: little sketchy. 553 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: This idea that everybody knows everything. I literally have been 554 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: in TV for twenty five years. I could never direct 555 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: a show. I don't even know what knob to push 556 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: the idea that every coach knows everything about every They 557 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: don't they That's why half of these coordinators get jobs 558 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: and they just flail. They don't have the little tiny 559 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: leak between coordinator and head coach. They can't do it. 560 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: I know everybody out there is this is what we do. 561 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: We're all we're like sharks attacking chum. 562 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: When John Harbaugh is like, yeah. 563 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: We we didn't know, and that we found out, we 564 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: immediately changed it. I think he's not bsing. I think 565 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: he's telling the truth. Friday when most people are doing 566 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: their you know, walk through the date before the weekend begins. Hey, 567 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: we're locked in the plan, we got everything. Lamar's practicing 568 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: in full and then he doesn't play. 569 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 2: Listen. 570 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 6: The Falcons are dodging a bullet here because they did 571 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 6: the same crap with Drake London, who didn't miss any 572 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 6: practice all week and then all of a sudden sits 573 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 6: out the game. 574 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 8: I mean, Colin, you know this. 575 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 6: The league is hugely propelled by fantasy football and gambling, 576 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 6: and a lot of people are making decisions on that 577 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 6: and betting early in the week, and maybe one of 578 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 6: the people all this. 579 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: Come out you you are hugely propelled well and betting. 580 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 8: And people are doing this. It's not one person. 581 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: Millions of people go to games. They don't get it. 582 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: Be coordinators. So what, I don't care If I'm an 583 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: NFL franchise, I don't give a care. I don't give 584 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: a rip about fantasy football players. 585 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 6: The league has rules in place because they know how 586 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 6: valuable fantasy and gambling. 587 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: Oh you know. 588 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: My rule has always been I don't think injury reports 589 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: should be published period. I think it's a terrible idea 590 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: to tell opponents the weakness. The other thing, it was 591 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: a hamstring injury. Two injuries in my life hamstring injuries 592 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: and calf injuries. Well, let me add groin injuries. You're like, oh, 593 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm good. You wake up the next morning, you stretch 594 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: and you're like, crap. 595 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 8: I just you and me, But not twenty five year 596 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 8: old guy. 597 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: They're Opposite's true, they're more finely tuned. I have literally 598 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: pulled my groin because I had I had my groin pulled. 599 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: I remember this years ago. 600 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: In a broadcast and an athlete said, bro, you're gonna 601 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: pull the other side if you don't just do not 602 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: do anything athletic, And I'm out here thinking, yeah whatever. 603 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: Two days later made it worse. Calf injuries, hammy injuries. 604 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 1: These are finely tuned athletes. Sometimes you go to Bettett 605 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: Fiel's good, you wake up. You can literally pull your 606 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: calf in your sleep. So I don't think I do not. 607 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be cynical guy on Ravens like I 608 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: don't think they knew. 609 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 2: I think it happens. 610 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: I think players change their minds Lamar could say, okay, 611 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: goo practice, but how hard did he go at practice? 612 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 2: You don't know that. 613 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 6: But we're on the very opposite sides of the fence. 614 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 6: And now we'll move on to speaking of bad. It's 615 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 6: the San Francisco forty nine ers. They were down bad. 616 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 6: We had this in headlines Friday. This was a layup 617 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 6: Texans roll a listless San Francisco team. Colin they had 618 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 6: zero first downs. I believe with ninety seconds left in 619 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 6: the first half, they could not move the football. Semac 620 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 6: had very low usage rate. I think he had like 621 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 6: seventy yards total here's Kyle Shanahan not thrilled with his 622 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 6: team's effort. 623 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 5: Not much the sugarcoat there. I was roll disappointed in 624 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 5: how he looked for all four quarters on first half 625 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 5: was unacceptable and second half didn get much better. So 626 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: not much to say about it except that we'll look 627 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 5: it on the plane and figure out all the things 628 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 5: that we know we can correct and that we did 629 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 5: mess up. But I expect the guys coming tomorrow with 630 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 5: a chip on their shoulder ready to get back to war. 631 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: What's interesting is after wins I took the Texans this week. 632 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: After wins, Shanahan's teams, for some reasons, don't perform necessarily 633 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: at their best level. 634 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 6: I mean, they are so beat up, but still though 635 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 6: to let the Texans have like. 636 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 8: Four hundred yards of offense. 637 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 6: No Nico Collins and I think he was throwing a 638 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 6: three Iowa state geist. Just a bunch of young receivers, 639 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 6: and it's like that that was eye opening Colin. I'm 640 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 6: just wondering teams don't punt games, but there were a 641 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 6: couple of games Sunday that felt like, Ah, we're not 642 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 6: locked in, We're gonna let this one go. Do you 643 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 6: think this is just a blipper of the Niners in trouble. 644 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: Go look at that. You know you have the Niners 645 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: winning the division. I did not, and I did not 646 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: for the exact reason that's transpired, which is their old, 647 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: expensive and brittle and when old teams get hurt, it 648 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: takes them longer to recover. Young teams like Seattle or 649 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay can get banged up. Two weeks later the 650 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: guys playing, So who do the Niners play next? 651 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: Keep your on the. 652 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 8: New York Giants. Go ahead, I double dog there. 653 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 6: You can take Jackson Dart with him without Cam'skataboo. By 654 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 6: the way, Giants fans, I did try to get Scataboo 655 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 6: in the show the groosly broken ankle. He's done for 656 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 6: the year. The Giants are unwatchable. I think Brian Dabole 657 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 6: is coaching for his job here in the next couple 658 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 6: weeks calling, I. 659 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: Know you disagree. You like the dable dark Combo have. 660 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: To fly all the way cross country to face a 661 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: team that just got humiliated. 662 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: All right, yeah, well we'll. 663 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 6: See what they got. Final story calls to the NBA. 664 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 6: I listen, I had to get this one in your guy. 665 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 6: Austin Reeves with one of the great performances we've seen 666 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 6: in the early season. Fifty one points. Colin, no Luca, 667 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 6: no Lebron, just a heavy dose of Austin Reeves fifty one, 668 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 6: eleven and nine. What are performance? Strangely, you were quiet 669 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 6: on social media when Reeves was cooking. I didn't know 670 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 6: if you just wanted to just to wait to do 671 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 6: it on the show. 672 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Sacramento is known for such a such a 673 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: rigid defense. 674 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: We go all right. 675 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 6: Anyways, here's Austin Reeves talking about the night of his. 676 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 10: Career, especially on a night where you don't have Look, 677 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 10: you don't have Brown, you don't have Jackson. Let you know, 678 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 10: you gotta go out there and be big for the team. Now, 679 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 10: wasn't in my head thinking you gotta go score to fifty. 680 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 10: It was do whatever you can do to help. 681 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: The team win. 682 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 6: How about this efficiency? You love the word efficiency? 683 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: Love it? 684 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 6: Fifty one points on twenty two shots. It's glorious. 685 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: Hall in Westbrook? Why why the win? Who Russell Westbrook? Yeah? 686 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 6: And a non factor and irrelevant came off the bench. 687 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 6: Maybe you had a dozen points and Austin Reeves fifty one. 688 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 6: You know, I know you like Cooper Flag and some 689 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 6: of these other hot, young, shiny new objects. Just keep 690 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 6: an eye on Austin Reeves. If it ends with Lebron 691 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 6: this season, can Reeves be the two and they get 692 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 6: in like some other good players. 693 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: No, I've been on this for years. He is on 694 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: a championship team. He's a four. Oh on a good 695 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: playoff team. He's a three. Remember that Minnesota series. You 696 00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: want to see that a game? 697 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 8: How many time weld against Anthony Edwards? Yes, he undenying. 698 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't the only person he struggled against. 699 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 2: J Mack with the news. Well that's the news, and 700 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: thanks for stopping back the herd line news. 701 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: For the record, Austin Reeves isn't necessarily a great fit 702 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: with Luca because Luca needs the ball. Austin needs the ball, 703 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: so Lebron needs the ball. If I was the Lakers, 704 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: I would move Austin Reeves trade deadline. He can be 705 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: maximized somewhere else much more effectively. That's not a knock 706 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: on Austin Reeves. He's really good with the ball in 707 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: his hands. Luca skinny, Luca should have the ball in 708 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: his hands. I said this before the season started. I 709 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: said it's gonna be a problem. Lebron's much better with 710 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: ball than off ball, Skinny Luca. 711 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: Get him the ball and get out of the way. 712 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: So I think Austin Reeves's there's too much redundancy. When 713 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: Lebron gets back, Lebron needs ball, Luca, he needs ball. 714 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: I would get somebody who's more off ball. That's my take. 715 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: And Austin Reeves, I mean, I'm the Lakers last night. 716 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm like loving it. I want everybody in the world 717 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: to see this guy. Hey, that guy. There are teams 718 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: in the league that need somebody like I said Number 719 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: two with the ball. Lakers don't. And here's the air thing. 720 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: Not only are international players the best five players in 721 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: the NBA, they're the best five players by a mile. 722 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: I mean, there's. 723 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: Nobody else like Wemby. There's no domestic player like Wenby. 724 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: There's no domestic player like Luca. Forget Sga and Jannis 725 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: Skinny Luca. There's no comp in the States Wemby, there's 726 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: no comp on the Earth. But I think Austin Reeves 727 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: has value. But I think it's a redundancy issue with 728 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: the Lakers. He is really good with the ball in 729 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: his hands, So there you go. 730 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: It's the Hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of 731 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: The Herd weekdays and Noone Eastern nn am Pacific on 732 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 733 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 6: Tonight, it's Game three of the World Series. As the 734 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 6: scene shifts to la or Vlad Junior in the Blue 735 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 6: Jays take on show, Hey Otani and the Dodgers. Game 736 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 6: three of the World Series. Coverage begins tonight at seven 737 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 6: pm Eastern four Pacific on Fox. 738 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: I'll take the Dodgers. 739 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: Glass Now has pitched thirteen in the third innings in 740 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: the postseason, giving up one earned run. His stuff is nasty, 741 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: but like Snell, you know, he's a guy that had 742 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: some injuries in his career. They didn't pitch him a 743 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: ton necessarily during the regular season. He has got filthy stuff. 744 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: So Toronto is a handful. Series is one one. Jay's 745 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: had a nine run inning in Game one, but Yoshi 746 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: shut him down. Listen, great pitching beats great hitting. I'll 747 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: take the Dodgers and Glass Now tonight. For the record, 748 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: let me just throw this out there. I don't want 749 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't want this to be lost about the whole 750 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: bow Knicks thing, like I love bow Knicks. A lot 751 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: of people in the league I'd talked to were very 752 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: hot and cold on him, didn't think he had a 753 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: good enough arm. I don't think that's a problem. And 754 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: I also think guy's arms get stronger. Aaron Rodgers at 755 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: Cal was not Aaron Rodgers with the Packers. His arm 756 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: got stronger, So bow Knicks since the start of last season. 757 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: For all the critics of bow Knicks. First in the 758 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: NFL completions on third down, third down is a big 759 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: boy down. That's for the grownups. That's like the Drew 760 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: Breeze down. That's the Brady down. That's the Mahomes down. 761 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: First in the NFL completions on third down, also top 762 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: four in the league in a red zone touchdowns is 763 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: some of Sean Payton, Yes, some of it is Sean Payne. 764 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: Some of the Mahomes greatness in the red zone is 765 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, some of Brady Josh McDaniels like, yes, of course, 766 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: But Matt Hasselback earlier today on what he sees from 767 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: bow Necks. 768 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 3: With Bownicks is so great at and a lot of people, 769 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 3: you know, and I would say every coach I ever 770 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 3: had would say, hey, quarterbacks. You make so much money 771 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 3: because of what we expect you to do on third down, 772 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 3: red zone in two minutes. And that's where Bonnicks to me, 773 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 3: has been outstanding. Some people will like, oh, he's streaky. Yeah, 774 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 3: guess what when he's when he's on fire, he's on fire. 775 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 3: Similar I don't want to say it, but similar to 776 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 3: Drew Brees and a little bit unstoppable, like the defense. 777 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 3: I don't know what you do differently, and this this 778 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 3: tandem was Sean Payton like, it's it's legit. 779 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 4: Are they a super Bowl contender? 780 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, if they can come out of their division, if 781 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 3: they could win that division, they can win the super Bowl. 782 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, I think guys especially want to 783 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 1: be right, and so if they didn't think bon Nicks 784 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: would be good, they're not interested in getting it right. 785 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: They want to be right. 786 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 1: And so a lot of people that didn't like bon Nicks, 787 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: especially guys, they're not going to admit it. Well, it's 788 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: the receivers on Sean Payton, the dude eighteen under. It's 789 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: pretty surgical, it's pretty special. He will uncork an ugly one. 790 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: He had an early interception against Dallas that was brutal. 791 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: He's young, you're two, it's October, but I. 792 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 2: Mean he is. 793 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: People struggle to get past him being you know what, 794 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: was he the sixth quarterback taking or fifth quarterback? People 795 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: just can't get past that. I said in that quarterback 796 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 1: draft class, JJ McCarthy was the one I didn't get. 797 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: I got Drake, I got Caleb, I got Jayden, I 798 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: got Panix. I was a big bon Nicks guy. And 799 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: there's no getting around he's outstanding. I want to say 800 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: this again, is that for the last probably seven or 801 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: eight years, I was very critical of the Lakers. I 802 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: didn't think they had a very strong ownership group. Then 803 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: they brought in the Dodgers, who already owned a part. 804 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: The Dodgers owner came in and bought the Lakers, and 805 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: so it's a whole new ballgame. My feeling on the 806 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: Lakers is totally different ballgame. Money's not a factor. They'll 807 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: be run like the Dodgers, which is vision long term. 808 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: But one of the things last night that's already been highlighted. 809 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: They have said in twenty twenty six they want to 810 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: go big game hunting. The opposite of big game hunting 811 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 1: is signing Austin Reeves to an extension at forty million 812 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: a year. That's the opposite. He's a number three or 813 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: a number four. It's a very good player. There are 814 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: three teams in this league who are good to pretty good, 815 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: and they need some that can have their ball in 816 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: their hands and initiate offense. The Rockets, the Celtics in Miami. 817 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: I would call all three and find somebody that can 818 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,959 Speaker 1: be an athletic wing. Lebron needs the ball. Luca needs 819 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: the ball. You do not need another guy who's an 820 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: average defender who needs the ball. Lebron at this point 821 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: needs the ball. Average defender Luca's entire career really needs 822 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: the ball. Average defender. Austin Reeves is your third guy. 823 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: Austin gives you the effort defensively. Not a great defensive player. 824 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: He tries, and he's a good athlete. But it's just 825 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: redundancy and the old Laker ownership I think would have 826 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: been afraid to pull the trigger. If I'm running the Lakers, 827 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: I love what Austin Reeves did last night. I'd go 828 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: to your social I'd just put it on for three days. 829 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: If you can move Austin Reeves to like the Celtics, 830 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: or like the Rockets or Miami, a team that needs 831 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: somebody to initiate the offense and get somebody that is 832 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: off ball, because the Lakers are not a good rim protector. 833 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: I mean, even DeAndre Ayton's athletic not a very good 834 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: defensive player. Reeves isn't a very good defensive player, Lucas 835 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: not a very good defensive player. Lebron at this point's 836 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 1: not a very good defensive player. Redundancy, Your best players 837 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: are all offensive guys. Move Austin Reeves. He's a good 838 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: player on this team. You've got him, just better versions. 839 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: So through three games, the Lakers have already shown you 840 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of what they are, which is a 841 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: bad defensive team. They're a bottom ten defensive team. You 842 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: got four guys who are much better on the offensive 843 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: end than the defensive end. What are you doing, so, 844 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, you move into a team that needs offense 845 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: and get an athletic, you know, like a nas red guy, 846 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: like energy, defense, toughness, size, that's what you need. You 847 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: don't need another guy that needs the ball in their 848 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: hands and can't make a stop. 849 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 6: So, you know, Colin, you sound a lot like the 850 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 6: pundits after the Dallas Mavericks traded for Kyrie to partner 851 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 6: Kyrie with Luca, they went to the finals. Colin, so, 852 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 6: I think Austin Reeves is going to be just fine 853 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 6: alongside Luca. 854 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 8: The only way. 855 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 6: They're moving him is if Giannis is coming to the Lakers. 856 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 6: That's the only way. I don't know that Milwaukee would 857 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 6: be interested in Reeves. He would be a fan favorite, 858 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 6: very Midwest flavor given his background. But I'm not giving 859 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 6: up Austin Reeves. 860 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, another thing we disagree on