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Speaker 1: usually built really strong. They're usually not as quick on

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Speaker 1: the perimeter, but they're usually really good in terms of

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Speaker 1: guarding bigger players and switches. And then they usually are

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Speaker 1: more of a power offensive game and their ability to

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Speaker 1: beat mismatches in the post. Right, And there's just not

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Speaker 1: a guy like that on this Thunder roster, like they're

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Speaker 1: Jalen Williams is basically your fore man in this group

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Speaker 1: and the starting lineup, and he's six foot six. Lou

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Speaker 1: dort Is is a is a smaller, like kind of

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Speaker 1: more hydrant type of wing. He's kind of more in

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Speaker 1: that like like he's like a bigger version of like

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Speaker 1: that Bruce Brown type of archetype, right, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: Josh Gidty is not a guy that you're looking at

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Speaker 1: is a big, strong forward, right. And even the guy's

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Speaker 1: coming off the bench, Aaron Wiggins and Kenrich Williams are

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Speaker 1: are a little too small for that. Huzman Jang is

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Speaker 1: tall like that, but he's thin, and so I don't

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Speaker 1: think he really qualifies either. So they don't really have

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Speaker 1: a guy on the roster that fits that archetype. And

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Speaker 1: ideally that's what you'd want, especially with Chat being a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a thinner rim protectors. If you had

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Speaker 1: a six ' nine six ' ten, big strong forward

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Speaker 1: next to Chat Holmgren, that would be what would address

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Speaker 1: their biggest weakness in terms of defensive rebounding in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: And so again, like I'm not here saying like the

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Speaker 1: Thunder need to make a trade. I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: in a rush. I don't think they're in enough of

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Speaker 1: a rush. Like I don't think I don't think the

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Speaker 1: front office is looking at this like we need to

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Speaker 1: win the title this year. So my guess is that

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Speaker 1: the Thunder will just be patient. But just for fun,

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Speaker 1: here's an example of a trade that would actually really

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Speaker 1: like this trade for both teams, but a trade that

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Speaker 1: would address the biggest weakness for the Thunder while at

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Speaker 1: the same time addressing the biggest weakness for the other team.

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Speaker 1: So the Thunder they have a need for this type

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Speaker 1: of big, strong forward, right, and they have a plethora

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Speaker 1: of guys that are good perimeter defenders. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers are a team that is completely

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Speaker 1: devoid of perimeter athleticism in the back court, right, and

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Speaker 1: the best perimeter defenders they have right now are Cam

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Speaker 1: Reddish and Jared Vanderbilt, who are both guys that are

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Speaker 1: probably going to get ignored in a playoff series, which

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Speaker 1: hurts them on the defensive end of the floor, right

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Speaker 1: because they when they play those guys, that hurts them

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Speaker 1: on offense. When they sit those guys, their offense gets better,

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Speaker 1: but their defense goes to hell. It's been a big

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Speaker 1: part of the story at the beginning of the season

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Speaker 1: as Jared Vanderbilt's been out right. But what they have

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Speaker 1: is this guy named Ruy Hachimura, and he's only played

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Speaker 1: five minutes all season alongside Lebron James and Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 1: Why because Lebron James is also a big, strong forward,

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Speaker 1: and Ruy kind of slots behind him, and they don't

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Speaker 1: feel comfortable playing him at the three alongside Lebron and

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Speaker 1: Ad because usually at the three, you need someone who

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Speaker 1: can navigate screens. You need someone who's a good perimeter defender,

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Speaker 1: a guy that can chase quicker players around on the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: And we saw in the Golden State series in particular,

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Speaker 1: that Ruey when he was alongside Lebron, couldn't really do that,

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Speaker 1: and so he became less effective in that particular series. Right,

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Speaker 1: So they're in this predicament where they've got an extra big,

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Speaker 1: strong forward and they are leaning more on their Jared

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Speaker 1: Vanderbilt will play a lot Tory Prince, you know, Like

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Speaker 1: those are the guys that are playing the majority of

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Speaker 1: those perimeter minutes alongside Lebron, James and Anthony Davis. And

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Speaker 1: even when they have gone big next to Lebron and Ad,

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Speaker 1: they've wanted to play Christian Wood, right. So Ruy's kind

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Speaker 1: of expendable there in that way. And so this is

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Speaker 1: one of those deals where it's like lou Dort for

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Speaker 1: Ruy Hatchamura, even though I think both fan bases would

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Speaker 1: hate that trade. And before before any of you guys

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Speaker 1: think like, oh, that's bullshit, like I would never give

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Speaker 1: away Ruey for Dort, or I'd never give away Dort

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Speaker 1: for RUI. I've already tweeted this out, and I promise

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Speaker 1: you everyone feels the same way. Every thunderfan thinks it's

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Speaker 1: not worth it. Dort's too good, ru is too bad.

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Speaker 1: Every Lakers fan thinks it's not worth it. Ru is

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Speaker 1: too good, Dort's too bad. So like to give you

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Speaker 1: an idea like this is that's kind of what makes

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Speaker 1: it the perfect trade in my opinion, is like both

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Speaker 1: fan bases hate it, but I think it legitimately fixes

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Speaker 1: the biggest problems for both teams, and it comes from

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Speaker 1: a surplus for both teams, Like Dort is a very

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Speaker 1: good perimeter defender and is the guy who takes the

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Speaker 1: primary point of attack assignments for Oka. See, it's an

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Speaker 1: important job. But at the same time, excuse me, they

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Speaker 1: have a lot of other guys that are capable of

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Speaker 1: doing that job and doing it well, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think that would be an issue for the roster. In

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Speaker 1: the big picture, I'd argue that their defensive rebounding is

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Speaker 1: a bigger problem, like they're legitimately giving up an offensive

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Speaker 1: rebound on more than thirty percent of their stops right now.

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Speaker 1: Think about that, like a third of the time that

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Speaker 1: they actually get a stop, the other team just gets

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Speaker 1: the rebound and they get to try again. It's a

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Speaker 1: big weakness in this roster. Even if you look at

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Speaker 1: the losses Oklahoma City's had against teams like the Pelicans,

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Speaker 1: you know, with that big front line of Jonnas Valanciunis

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Speaker 1: in Zion Williamson against the Denver Nuggets for instance, with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon and Nicole Jokic. Right even the time they

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Speaker 1: lost to the Warriors, I think they gave up like

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Speaker 1: something crazy like like twelve thirteen offensive rebounds in that

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Speaker 1: game too. They gave up a ton of offensive rebounds last night.

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Speaker 1: So like it's been, that's their biggest weakness, right and

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Speaker 1: so in a weird way, like for the Lakers, Lakers

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Speaker 1: fans are like, they love Ruy Hachimura, they want him

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Speaker 1: to stay, but right now they're having trouble finding minutes

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Speaker 1: for him because he's tucked behind Lebron and they desperately

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Speaker 1: need a good perimeter defender that's a plus offensive player

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Speaker 1: that they could put between Austin Reeves and whoever it

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Speaker 1: is that's at the three, to give them a better

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Speaker 1: fighting chance on the perimeter and against athletic guards. And

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Speaker 1: so like, Dort come in and solves all of the

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Speaker 1: Lakers problems by giving them a plus offensive player who

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Speaker 1: is also a very good perimeter defender and a great athlete.

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Speaker 1: And then on the other end of the floor, at

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Speaker 1: the other end of that that equation, you Slot Ruy

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Speaker 1: Hatcha Mura, and you have you know, Shake gils Just, Alexander,

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Speaker 1: Josh Giddy, Jay Dubb, Ruy Hatchra Mura and Chet. Now

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Speaker 1: you're big. Now you're a huge lineup. Now you're Chet

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Speaker 1: next to Ruy six ' nine, next to Giddy six eight,

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Speaker 1: next to Jay dub at six six, elite athlete, next

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Speaker 1: to Shake gils Just Alexander sixty six with great length.

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Speaker 1: And now you all of a sudden become a big team.

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Speaker 1: So again it's just for fun. That trade's not gonna

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Speaker 1: happen in my opinion, because the Lakers do value Ruby

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Speaker 1: Hatchamura a ton, even though he they don't use him

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Speaker 1: as much as they probably should, And because I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the thunder don't want to mess with a perfect concoction.

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Speaker 1: I just thought that was like kind of an example

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Speaker 1: of a trade that would actually benefit both teams a

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Speaker 1: great deal. I think both teams would get better immediately.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's hit the mailbag before we get out

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Speaker 1: of here for the weekend. I have one, two, three,

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Speaker 1: four by six seven questions for you guys. Okay, is

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Speaker 1: the reason that your favorite type of player is a

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Speaker 1: strong forward because they can get the most efficient shot

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Speaker 1: which results to winning basically essentially, like I think most

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Speaker 1: playoff series, in my opinion, kind of eventually degenerate into

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Speaker 1: rock fights and matchup hunting. And when you have a big,

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Speaker 1: strong forward star who can consistently get a quality shot

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Speaker 1: close to the rim against smaller defenders, that I think

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Speaker 1: is the best weapon that you can have in a

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Speaker 1: playoff series as long as that guy can play make.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I've always gravitated towards the Jokic's, the Lucas,

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Speaker 1: the Lebron's, like that type of player has always been

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Speaker 1: a type of player that I think is deeply impactful

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Speaker 1: in the NBA postseason. If you can punished size mismatches

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Speaker 1: while also being an elite playmaker, That to me is

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Speaker 1: like the best version of a playoff player. All right,

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Speaker 1: next question, Hi, Jason. I love watching the Palo Franz

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Speaker 1: duo in Orlando, and I am bullish that they can

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Speaker 1: become the next Brown Tatum. But in order to maximize

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Speaker 1: their potential, I think the Magic need to fit figure

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Speaker 1: out what sort of guards can play alongside them. Offensively.

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Speaker 1: Been having an argument with a pretty passionate Magic mate,

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Speaker 1: and I'd love you to settle to score. I think

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Speaker 1: guards that can set up the offense and put Franz

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Speaker 1: and Pollow in spots to attack aka the Fred van

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Speaker 1: Vliet player archetype, would allow them to just focus on

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Speaker 1: scoring and secondary playmaking and let the other role players

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Speaker 1: feed off of that initiator my friends. My friend thinks

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Speaker 1: Franz in particular can develop into a true point forward

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Speaker 1: and Palow enough of a dho high post passer that

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Speaker 1: the guards they should target our more off ball shooter

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Speaker 1: slash cutters aka the zach Lavine player archetype, and let

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Speaker 1: the combined aggregate ball handling you talked about before this

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Speaker 1: before sort out the team offense. Obviously, the dream situation

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Speaker 1: is a guard that can do both, but those guys

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Speaker 1: don't grow on trees. So a couple different things here,

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Speaker 1: very good question for the record, I tend to think

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Speaker 1: that in this particular case, your two stars are going

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Speaker 1: to inevitably be the offensive engines and the big picture,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely think that Franz can develop into a true

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Speaker 1: point forward, and I absolutely do think that Palo can

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Speaker 1: kind of spell him in the same way that Julius

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Speaker 1: Randall spells Jalen Brunson essentially as this big bully ball forward,

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Speaker 1: and I think he can be a lot better than

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Speaker 1: Julius Randall. Obviously in the back court, it's always a

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Speaker 1: tough battle because like there's always a given a take right,

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Speaker 1: Like you're probably a little bit frustrated with some of

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Speaker 1: the stuff with with like Jalen Suggs and and Markel

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Speaker 1: Foltz offensively, but those two guys are really good athletes

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Speaker 1: and really good defensive players at the point of attack,

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Speaker 1: And so it gets tricky because if you, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you go, let's say you were like, let's bring

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Speaker 1: in offensive skill to help organize Franz and Polo, it's

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Speaker 1: like then your point of attack defense takes a hit,

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Speaker 1: and you is Wendell Carter Junior enough of a rim

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Speaker 1: protector to hold things down, probably not right, Like I

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Speaker 1: like that that's always the give and the take, and

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Speaker 1: so honestly, as of right now, I kind of like

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Speaker 1: the physical, bullyball nature of the magic with the backcourt

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Speaker 1: that they have. And I know it sounds crazy because

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Speaker 1: like right now they're just not good enough offensively. That

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Speaker 1: goes without saying, but like, don't rush this situation. Like there,

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Speaker 1: this is not a team that needs to accomplish everything

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Speaker 1: this year. It's actually worthwhile to see if Jalen Suggs

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Speaker 1: in a few years can be you know, like a

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Speaker 1: top tier two way defensive minded guard that can also

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Speaker 1: shoot and slash off of the attention that Fronz and

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Speaker 1: Pola generate, right, And same goes from Markelle Fultz, Right,

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Speaker 1: So I think I think in the in the short term,

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Speaker 1: it actually makes sense to just kind of continue to

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Speaker 1: give these guys as much reps as possible, and when

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Speaker 1: you get closer to this being more of a win

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Speaker 1: now situation, maybe two years from now, you could take

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Speaker 1: a look at at some of the more intricate details

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Speaker 1: of whether or not the offense is clicking at a

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Speaker 1: high and a freight, right, and and then you find

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Speaker 1: out in the big picture, because like, obviously I think

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Speaker 1: Franz can be a star perimeter initiator, but that's still

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Speaker 1: somewhat up in the air, right, and so you need

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Speaker 1: more data, and the only way to get more data

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Speaker 1: is with more time. So like again, like I understand, okay,

643
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Speaker 1: see is an example of a team that's getting to

644
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: the point where they need to start making some decisions

645
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: because they're that good and their window is entering into

646
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: the right now right, But Orlando's is not there yet,

647
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: and so in my opinion, it makes more sense to wait.

648
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Speaker 1: But I like good physical point of attack defenders next

649
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: to Palo in France, because I don't think they're a

650
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: great rim protection team compared to some of the top

651
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: tier rim protection teams in the league. So I like

652
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: having that point of attack defense. And then also just

653
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: in general, I like having an identity, and Orlando's identity

654
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Speaker 1: is they're bigger and stronger than you and they're going

655
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Speaker 1: to be a pain in the ass to deal with

656
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Speaker 1: in the physicality areas of the game, and that to

657
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: me is worth just as much in a positive way

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Speaker 1: that their wee half court offense is worth in a

659
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: negative way. If that makes sense, Jason, Why do NBA

660
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: teams rely so much on traditional pick and roll every

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Speaker 1: possession to start an offense, to start offense instead of

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Speaker 1: actually running play slash sets that are effective. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: a brute force offense, but didn't you also say that's

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Speaker 1: something you really need in that playoff crunch time when

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Speaker 1: things are tight. So in general, it does, like again

666
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Speaker 1: when it comes to at the beginning of possessions, like

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Speaker 1: we talked about at the beginning part of the show.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's all about getting the defense into rotation,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't really matter how you do it. Like

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Speaker 1: some teams are gonna do that by attacking in the post, right,

671
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Speaker 1: Like you know the Lakers when they get into the

672
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Speaker 1: playoff series, they'll post Ad and Lebron a lot more. Right.

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Speaker 1: We see the Rafters do this a ton where it's

674
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Speaker 1: like og and andob or Scottie Barnes just just bullying

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Speaker 1: their way to the basket until they get the defense

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Speaker 1: in rotation. Right, and then there are teams that can

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Speaker 1: do it through five out offense. Right. This is a

678
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Speaker 1: lot of the Sacramento Kings, Golden State Warriors, where it's

679
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: like heavy ball movement actions and sets, and that's another

680
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Speaker 1: way to do it. And then there's your brute force

681
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Speaker 1: teams that like Dallas for instance, that are doing it

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Speaker 1: through pick and roll. But like, at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, it doesn't really matter how you do it.

684
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Speaker 1: It's more about once you get the defense in rotation,

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Speaker 1: can you finish plays like by having top tier play

686
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Speaker 1: finishers or being a great driving kick team, and like,

687
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Speaker 1: those are the kinds of questions that kind of push

688
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: you over the edge offensively. But essentially the reason why

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Speaker 1: you see pick and roll as the majority of the

690
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Speaker 1: time what teams will do is because outside of a

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00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, select few archetypes of players in the league

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Speaker 1: that can get the defense and rotation in other ways.

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Speaker 1: Like one of the why does Golden State's five out

694
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Speaker 1: offense work because you have Stephen Clay. Why does Sacramento's

695
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Speaker 1: five out offense work because you Malik Monk and Deer

696
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Speaker 1: and Fox. They do it in a different way, But

697
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: that's that's why it works. And so you kind of

698
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Speaker 1: have to do it based on your personnel, and most

699
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: teams the easiest way to get the defense and pick

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Speaker 1: and roll is let me give you an example, like

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Speaker 1: the Lakers in a bench group with Austin Reeves and

702
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis and Christian Wood just for an example, like

703
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: and Ad hasn't been posting up as much this year.

704
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Speaker 1: So like, give Austin spread floor, two shooters in the

705
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Speaker 1: weakside corners, shooter on the or two shooters in the corners,

706
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Speaker 1: shooter on the weak side wing, and Ad comes up

707
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: and sets a ball screen. Chances are he probably can

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Speaker 1: get one of the weakside defenders to lean in. Now

709
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: it's kickout pass, now di'angelo, Rustler, Torrey Prince, wherever it

710
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: is attacking a close out there, Like, that's how they

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Speaker 1: do it. They their their main goal there is just

712
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Speaker 1: to get a close out opportunity for somebody. That's how

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00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: they start the possession right. So again, like it's just

714
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Speaker 1: an easy way to do it. And the main reason

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Speaker 1: why you see ball screens in particular is not only

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Speaker 1: are guys like Austin and the rest of the guys

717
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: in the league that's where they're most comfortable, but also

718
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: when you look at the way coverages are built, with

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00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: a lot of teams going with high drop and backside help,

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00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: it's just the easiest way to get baked in rotations

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Speaker 1: by the coverage. Like, so many teams that I've covered

722
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: this year are engaging the low man on the role

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Speaker 1: man every single time inning. They're bringing the screen defender

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Speaker 1: up high to help corral the ball. They're conceding the

725
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: pocket pass, but they're tagging over with that with that

726
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Speaker 1: weak side guy. So if they're they're either conceding the

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00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: pocket pass right into a defender or they're denying the

728
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Speaker 1: pocket pass with the low man and conceding that skip

729
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: pass right, they're defending the action three on two. And like,

730
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Speaker 1: so if you can just run an action and automatically

731
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Speaker 1: have an open man, why not just do that? And

732
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Speaker 1: so it's a way to kind of like begin the possession.

733
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Speaker 1: And for the record, every team runs sets. They do.

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Speaker 1: It just depends on how frequently they do, and some

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Speaker 1: teams run it more than others run sets more than others.

736
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Speaker 1: But like if a team dribbles about the floor and

737
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: just runs a pick and roll, they're doing it to

738
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Speaker 1: try to get the defense in rotation and then they're

739
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: trying to play driving kick basketball out of that next question,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how the mailbox questions work, but I

741
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: would love if you could talk about if you feel

742
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: that Devin Booker out playing ants so heavily means anything,

743
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: or if it was just a bad game, frant I

744
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: never will react to one single regular season game as

745
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: a indicator of who's better. Never forget last year in

746
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Speaker 1: the regular season. I remember because I was coming back

747
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Speaker 1: from a ski trip in Colorado when I was watching

748
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: the game in some dive bar in like Golden Colorado

749
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: or something like that. But literally, Joel Embiid just utterly

750
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: obliterated Niccolo Kich just obliterated in for the world to

751
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: see on national television. Anybody here think Jokic is not

752
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: better than Embiid, like obviously he is. So I would

753
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: never overreact to one single regular season game, not to

754
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: mention like the one of the guys in the comments

755
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: pointed out something that I didn't even realize, which is

756
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: that the Timberwolves were on an incredibly difficult stretch their

757
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: schedule that had basically brought them to the edge of

758
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: fatigue in a lot of ways. Doesn't mean Devin Booker,

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Speaker 1: I believe. I believe Devin Booker is probably a little

760
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: bit better than Aunt right now. I think it will

761
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: pass him very soon. But I'm just saying I'm not

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00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: gonna use that particular game as an indicator. Next question.

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Speaker 1: You talk a lot about typical young guard mistakes like

764
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: shot selection and turnovers. Is there a way for young

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00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: guards to limit them, for example, diving into a ton

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00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: of tape? If yes, why don't they If you cannot

767
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: learn those things on tape, you just got to play.

768
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: As a fan who's never seriously played, I always wonder that. Honestly,

769
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: the guys are doing everything. They've got coaches in their ears.

770
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: They're showing them like, hey, you're missing this read like,

771
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: hey you're over dribbling here. Hey, this is over penetration.

772
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: Hey is a bad shot. We don't really need to

773
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: take the shot. Hey, defensively, you need to do this.

774
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: Hey you need to sprint back. Hey you need to

775
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: be in this position and help. Hey you need to

776
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: do a better job fighting over screens. Like they're telling

777
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: them all this stuff. It's just as with everything, it's

778
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: incremental improvement. It's not like you go have a film

779
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: session you're like, oh, I just got to do that differently,

780
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: and then suddenly you're a way better player. Like that's

781
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: not how it works. Like everything, when it comes to

782
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: the lightning quick decision making and real five on five

783
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: basketball is incremental progression. You're always just getting a little

784
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: bit better. For example, like I when I was in college,

785
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: I was just an athlete, so I just guarded the

786
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: other team's best player shot open threes and juco I'd

787
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: had to guard bigs because I was like the only

788
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: big on my team. So like, like that that was

789
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: what I did. But as I've gotten older, I've become

790
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: a perimeter player. And I was a late bloomer, right,

791
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: so I didn't play in high school and so I

792
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't even play in college until my third

793
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: year of college. And so I in my development, I

794
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: am in a I got to phases that other people

795
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: hit much earlier. So like when I was in my

796
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: when I was twenty five, I was starting to kind

797
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: of play a lot on the perimeter, and like I'm

798
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: starting to kind of figure out how to make reads

799
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: and to play five and five basketball and to be

800
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: a part of a team. And then twenty six I

801
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: got a little better, twenty seven I got a little better,

802
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: twenty eight I got a little better, twenty nine I

803
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: got a little better. Right like now, at age thirty two,

804
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: I feel really comfortable and confident as a perimeter player.

805
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: But even then, like I'm still every time I play,

806
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: I just get a little better at making the reads,

807
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: a little better at reading at kind of like feeling

808
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: the flow of a game and knowing when it's time

809
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: for me to be aggressive as a score versus when

810
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: it's time for me to look to pass right, Like

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00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: I've got so much better since COVID at building out

812
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: a post game. I just was like not good at

813
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: scoring in the post, and now it's like a strength

814
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: in my game, and you can't put a small defender

815
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: on me. Like it's just everything is like little tiny improvements.

816
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: Everything is incremental. I'm never expecting a young guard to

817
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: have two or three film sessions or two or three

818
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: good ball handling workouts and then directify all their problems.

819
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: Like everything is like you're always trying to just get

820
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: one percent better, If that makes any sense. Can you

821
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: break down how the Bucks can build off of Dame's

822
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: huge game without Yannis? So I didn't actually watch this game,

823
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: but I saw the highlights. Dame to start this year

824
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: is just not been the same guy in terms of

825
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: a shot making right and in general it's caused of

826
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: a boatload of problems in terms of just how easy

827
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: it is for them to score things like the Dam

828
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: Giannis pick and roll, like just the way teams are

829
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: guarding Dame. He needed to get into the habit of

830
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: not in the habit, but get into a rhythm where

831
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Speaker 1: he's making a lot of his pull up jump shots

832
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: to actually drive the aggressive coverage that will open things

833
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: up for them offensively. And as I said at the

834
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, like it was pretty clear to

835
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: me that Dame came into camp out of shape and

836
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 1: was leaving a ton of his pull up jump shots short.

837
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: But what's inevitably going to happen. Dame didn't just get

838
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: bad at basketball. He's eventually going to get his legs

839
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: underneath him and he's going to start making shots. And

840
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: I thought that game was a huge indicator of Dame

841
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: progressing in the right direction on that front. And then

842
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: Giannis comes back, That's where you can start kind of

843
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: leaning into that action a little bit, and as teams

844
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: get terrified of Dame making those shots, that's what will

845
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: open up those short role opportunities for jannest All Right,

846
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: last question, what is Steve Kurr's problem with Moses Moody.

847
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: Even when Moody is bawling, Steve will put in inferior

848
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: players over him, I e. Anthony Lamb last season and

849
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: this year, Corey, Joseph, and to a lesser extent, Clay

850
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: when he's clearly struggling. First of all, you gotta stick

851
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: with Clay because if you're gonna have any chance of

852
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: winning the title, you need him to be, you know,

853
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: the type of semi reliable offensive player that he was

854
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs in twenty twenty two, right, and for

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Speaker 1: most of the regular season last year. But above and

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Speaker 1: beyond that, they're like, there are some confusing ones like Joseph.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Cory jos is a good NBA player, but

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Speaker 1: I don't I that's the one guy where I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why he is in particular out there,

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Speaker 1: but in this particular case, curse trying to find who

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Speaker 1: he trusts. And one of the tricky things with Moody

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Speaker 1: in particular, in my opinion and just my time watching him,

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Speaker 1: I really like him in the playoff rotation when the

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Speaker 1: rotation is shrunk because he's always playing alongside good veteran players,

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Speaker 1: and in those situations when he's just focusing on point

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Speaker 1: of attack defense and he's in limited minutes so he

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Speaker 1: can foul and it's not as big of a deal.

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Speaker 1: And just taking wide open catch and shoot threes off

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Speaker 1: of you know, pick and roll actions where he's getting

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Speaker 1: great looks like, that's where he's really good. It's when

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Speaker 1: he's in some of these groups where multiple young players

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Speaker 1: are on the floor multiple like the where they're during

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Speaker 1: the regular season rotation, when there's like ten to eleven

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Speaker 1: guys in the rotation and he's playing with three or

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Speaker 1: four other bench guys and he has to do more

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Speaker 1: off the bounce like and the overall defensive talent is

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Speaker 1: and is good. That's where I can see him struggling

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Speaker 1: and so in a weird way in moments like this

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Speaker 1: where it's a regular season game, excuse me, and Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry's out, those are the times when Moody hasn't looked

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Speaker 1: as good. Right. So, But at the same time, like

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr, you know, every coach has the people that

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Speaker 1: they trust, and then you know they have stretches where

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Speaker 1: they have heavy trust in a player and they lean

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Speaker 1: on him heavily, and then sometimes that trust gets broken

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Speaker 1: and then suddenly they get removed from the rotation, and

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Speaker 1: you know, young guys in particular are going to go

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Speaker 1: through that, and that's one of the downsides of being

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Speaker 1: a lottery pick playing with a with a team that

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Speaker 1: has championship expectations, you know what I mean. But at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, this is what I would

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Speaker 1: tell you, know, cause I have Lakers fans that do

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Speaker 1: this all the time. They're like, we need Max Christy

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Speaker 1: to get more minutes, and like, you know, Camera just

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Speaker 1: should get more minutes, like less Tory and Prince more

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Speaker 1: of this guy. And it's like, if you really think

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Speaker 1: that more minutes for the seventh or eighth best player

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Speaker 1: on your team is the difference between you being good

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Speaker 1: or bad, I'm going to disagree with you, like generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: like that's not going to be the kind of thing

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Speaker 1: that separates success from failure in my opinion. Like should

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Speaker 1: Moses Moody play a little bit more? Yeah, probably, but

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Speaker 1: they're still six and seven or whatever if they do, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's turning the page on a lot

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Speaker 1: of these things. Like the Lakers, finally, because of injuries,

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Speaker 1: played a lot of Max Christy and he looked like

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Speaker 1: a young player you know, and so again like I

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Speaker 1: don't think, I think that those are conversations worth having,

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Speaker 1: but they're not big picture conversations and they don't have

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Speaker 1: any real bearing on the success of the team in

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Speaker 1: my opinion. All Right, guys, that's all I have for

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Remember taking Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and

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Speaker 1: Thursday off for Thanksgiving as I go out of town

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Speaker 1: to Texas. And then when I get back, we'll cover

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Speaker 1: that week's worth of games on Friday. There's always I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you, guys, and I'll see you. Then the volume