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Speaker 2: Yours was fun because we were in like Florida, Like

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Speaker 3: the show, Like yeah, whatever, and then they came like

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Speaker 3: they I was in Miami. I was like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: So it was cool.

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Speaker 4: I think brought flowers for Shannon. Yeah. It's rather right

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Speaker 4: through the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so she just had the kids to probably, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: was that last summer summers ago had kids?

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Speaker 2: It was after you all lost to the heat.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so it was right after right after what the

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Speaker 1: last year? Yeah, it was last year.

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Speaker 5: It was two years ago, twenty three, it was almost

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Speaker 1: Well, it was good. It feels like it was just like.

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Speaker 4: What drew you to long form sit downs? That's like

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Speaker 2: I just really enjoy people, Like I'm a person that

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Speaker 2: likes meeting new people, learning about them, chatting with them,

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Speaker 2: And I felt like in sports it was a lot

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Speaker 2: So I just went with it and ran with it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, what then about So she helped us get the

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Speaker 5: little Wayne tom Brady. That's true, I did.

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Speaker 3: She texted me before too, and she was like, I forgot,

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Speaker 3: I had to be like fifth probably ten to like

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: One thing about me. I'm gonna look out for my guys,

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Speaker 2: and it was a good interview. I'm happy that y'all

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Speaker 2: did it. Then you got on that chopper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, product, it was like a top.

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Speaker 4: She hopped up the helicopter too, because.

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Speaker 3: Well originally we're I wasn't kind of like a because

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Speaker 3: I literally flewent that was fanatics. So I flew in

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Speaker 3: the morning of I think or the night before, and

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Speaker 3: And then you know, we had that we changed the

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Speaker 1: We did the life.

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Speaker 2: But his reasoning was like he didn't know if he'd

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Speaker 2: But you know, you guys were the Kings in New

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Speaker 4: Yeah, did you forget Yeah, I mean that that was

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Speaker 6: That was It was a cool photo.

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Speaker 7: It was a cool picture. I feel like I'll say this,

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Speaker 7: I feel like that event will be better this year,

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Speaker 7: oh for sure. And that was that the first time

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Speaker 7: a normal event. That whole thing was just like it was.

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Speaker 7: It was wow, I will.

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Speaker 1: Say for they did it, for it to be their first.

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Speaker 3: One and with that many big names and all that,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was crazy and the fact that like

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Speaker 3: Wasn't it like end of the summer or like towards

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Speaker 2: Rady way, like everybody was there.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. It was that was that was fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely didn't need the chopper once I pushed

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Speaker 2: But like all jokes aside, I just wanted you all

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Speaker 2: there because you also just should be there, Like you

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Speaker 2: guys are a part of the New York Knicks. You

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Speaker 2: guys are on this large track of stardom. You need

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm happy to say that it was smith sailing

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Speaker 4: until I showed I showed speed, came on stage and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was already just that was just absurd.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I thought you should have just stayed in

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Speaker 3: Nah. Was the the position where where he was like

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Speaker 3: It was just, you know, I have my bubble, you know,

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Speaker 3: and he was trying to he was trying to he

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Speaker 1: I didn't like that.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, exactly invading bubbles. So you just recently did

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Speaker 3: our game I did, which we made a little more

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Speaker 1: But how was interviewing TIBs?

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Speaker 2: So I was going into this anticipating him not saying much,

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Speaker 2: a lot. He was phenomenal pregame, had amazing things to

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Speaker 3: But he was good.

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Speaker 2: He was good, So you can't let You can't let

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Speaker 7: So basically, what you're saying is that the narrative of

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Speaker 7: So the TIB's narrative is probably a little outdated, is

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Speaker 1: Yes, he was.

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Speaker 2: But something I think we've actually all talked about is

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Speaker 2: how difficult, borderline impossible it is for people to outgrow

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Speaker 2: their narratives. Like, when your narrative comes, you get stuck

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Speaker 2: to you being that thing. They just don't give you

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Speaker 2: though yes you are energy guy, but you're also one

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Speaker 1: Ford. Yeah, but power forward. I'm six four six power forward, Okay.

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Speaker 2: And then for you, it's like, you know, people want

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Speaker 1: Maybe you do, but you.

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Speaker 2: Also do other things. And I think that the more

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Speaker 7: What are you looking at me like that? No?

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 1: I looked at your watch and I was saying it

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Speaker 7: It is the right time.

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Speaker 1: You have a good label, bro, what's my label? I

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Speaker 1: feel like you outgrew your label? What's my label?

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Speaker 2: What was your label?

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Speaker 4: I don't know what was the tweet the someone tweeted like,

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Speaker 4: how does every NBA podcast have a Bland white.

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Speaker 7: You out label?

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Speaker 4: I just puts a picture with my wife and everyone's like, oh.

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Speaker 3: Man, yeah, yeah, exactlytive on that brother, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 3: We we did not talk about that at all before

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Speaker 3: I don't realize that everyone. Now, yeah, everyone, Mad had

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Speaker 3: Madden his wife Samar Welcome there their first into the

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Speaker 1: So it's crazy. Yeah, you guys both went through.

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Speaker 4: Its surreal, just a wild, wild process.

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Speaker 1: It happened so fast.

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Speaker 7: What you you didn't call me like a couple of

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Speaker 4: I think you said, Oh that's awesome. No, you're very supportive.

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Speaker 1: That's true. I did. That's true.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he had you, he had you. Josh was like,

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Speaker 1: I was telling me about get that baby.

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Speaker 2: Telling me about how. I don't think I'm confusing this story,

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Speaker 2: but you all after the delivery, you went to the

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Speaker 2: a few days, right, yeah, Bora.

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Speaker 1: And yeah than born for like ten days.

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Speaker 3: And then we came down to Miami and we had

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Speaker 3: So we were just like, nah, we can't be like,

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