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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cool People Who did cool Stuff. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Margaret Kildroy. Every week we talk about people who did

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Speaker 1: cool stuff. Sophie is here in zombie form as the producer,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to try and get you up to

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Speaker 2: And more powerful I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, and I mean we might not get you

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Speaker 1: all the way up to Lich. No, we're sticking with undead.

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Speaker 1: Lich is like jumping a little too high. You can

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Speaker 2: In miny Craft. It could be a zombie pig bin

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Speaker 1: I like how that just sounds like you're trying to

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Speaker 1: you're hearing is Garrison Davis, today's guest. Hello, how are

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Speaker 1: you Garrison? I'm actually doing okay, excellent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Today we're going to talk about some history that, obviously,

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Speaker 1: in the cool thing with history has no relevance to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it never does. That's the That's the great thing

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Speaker 2: about history is that it's only only in the past.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they already mentioned producers. Sophie, how are you doing, Sophie.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I died two days ago, but somehow

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get you. We'll get you up from from

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Speaker 1: zombie somehow. Our audio engineer is Ian. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what level of undead Ian is. Everyone say hi to Ian.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Ian, Hello, Hello, Ian. I I remember it this time.

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Speaker 2: I remember that I included having everyone this time. That's

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Speaker 2: that's called character development. It's it's it's it's a little

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I would like to be upgraded by the

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Speaker 3: I'm switching the criterias here I would like to be

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Speaker 3: I would like to be tree Beard from Lord of the.

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Speaker 2: That's also character Okay, well, yeah, you can try. We

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Speaker 2: can try to lay that groundwork over the course of

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Speaker 2: the next few ad breaks if you want.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ok, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We're building you up to end so much like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a Gandalf reference in this episode.

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Speaker 2: Tragic's weird.

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Speaker 1: Well, next week is gonna have a Gandalf reference because

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Speaker 1: I've already started writing the script. Much like the Motley

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Speaker 1: assortment of people who came together to fight fascism. In

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Speaker 1: the classic series of novels Lord of the Rings, the

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Speaker 1: people of Spain fought against Franco. This would be kind

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Speaker 1: of like if the people of Mordor fought against Mordor.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately Tolkian wrote an oversimplified thing. That's not what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about today. If you want to hear the

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Speaker 1: first part, you should. You should go back and listen

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Speaker 1: to the first part. But today we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about resistance to Franco, who was the dictator of Spain.

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Speaker 1: So after World War Two, Franco pivoted to being like

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Speaker 2: Huh, yeah, he was. He was. That's curious.

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Speaker 1: He was good at being in charge, well, he was

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Speaker 1: that works quite the way that that he might have thought. Well,

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Speaker 1: when he restore the monarchy without actually putting in a king.

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Speaker 2: So this was like, there's no monarch.

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Speaker 1: He managed to get like a bunch of sort of

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Speaker 1: But eventually he did pass off the prime ministership in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's a fascist.

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Speaker 1: So he's incredibly anti Semitic. But he actually didn't. Spain

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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, because he's he's tried to pony up to

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Speaker 1: he declares national Catholicism. I don't think he actually calls

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Speaker 1: something that was in conflict with the Church and the pope.

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Speaker 1: And they also negotiated with the church to have the

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Speaker 3: I think it's like a micromanager.

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Speaker 2: He was a micromanager to get up at Todd to

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Speaker 2: sign all these death war its. Yeah, what heart, what

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Speaker 1: I know that's where that's where Robert Evans does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I had just imagine him like, oh god, it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's kind of creepy because they're actually for

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Speaker 2: That's pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, basically all schooling became Catholic school. And they also

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Speaker 1: Or just the Church out of Spain. So the Church

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Speaker 1: God it really feels like nothing's ever changed thing, right,

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Speaker 1: I see, this is the one thing I am pro

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Speaker 1: So actually, well yeah, okay, so this one you have

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Speaker 1: And so all of this shit, all of this organizing,

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Speaker 2: Here's some add democratic possibilities, so too, will we open

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Speaker 3: So what to do with me becoming tree Beard?

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Speaker 2: Sore Bed is.

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Speaker 3: An end an end and is a very old wise

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Speaker 2: Most of what I know from this character well not no,

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Speaker 3: Feel like this is this is offensive to tree Beard looks.

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Speaker 1: So we're looking at I don't even know how to

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Speaker 1: But you know what else had gangly little branches in Spain?

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Speaker 1: to be very banned lots of languages and culture. But

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00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: it did not make him friends. The Bosque people overall

436
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: weren't like, man, there's our guy, you know, Rayco are dude. Yeah,

437
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: that quote that I think of every time I think

438
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: of Franco, which is just the I'm willing to kill

439
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: half of Spain to rule the other half. So in

440
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, the ECA formed a space program and

441
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: tried to send a Spaniard into space, Spain's first astronaut,

442
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: a very specific Spaniard they picked to try to launch

443
00:24:54,160 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: into space. See it's the early nineteen seventies. Franco is

444
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: a dictator. Still, he's kind of on the right track

445
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: with his like personal life and his leadership style, which

446
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: is to say, he's dying, which is.

447
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, that's I think where you were

448
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 2: going there for that success.

449
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: He's trying to pick a successor, and you know, and

450
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna name a king or whatever. Maybe he already

451
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: has at this point thing maybe his late sixties. He

452
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: like pisses off. I like refuse to keep track of

453
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 1: like which kings people like versus other kings, because there

454
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: shouldn't be monarchies. But he like pissed off either the

455
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: cauralists or the something else' or something anyway. In nineteen

456
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: seventy two, a Bosque separatist from the ETA named Jose

457
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: Miguel Benarin aka Argala, which is Bosque for thin, because

458
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: everyone gets to have cool nicknames when you're in the

459
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: resistance against Franco, that is cool. Argala went to Madrid

460
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: to start building contacts in the Spanish left, basically hoping

461
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: to be like, all right, we should get together with

462
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: the other resistance movements. Yeah, And also he was like,

463
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: if we a big attack somewhere else, it'll relieve pressure.

464
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: Off the Bosque region, right, sure. Sure.

465
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: His previous escapades including robbing a bank for ten million pisadas. Uh,

466
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: he held a businessman hostage, but instead of for money,

467
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: it was basically like a labor strike.

468
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: Thing.

469
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: It was like a I'm holding this businessman hostage until

470
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: this company treats their workers better.

471
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: That's that's pretty cool. It's it worked conventional, but it's

472
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's pretty cool.

473
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in Madrid now. He meets a communist woman

474
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: named Eva Forrest who was born to anarchists parents in Barcelona,

475
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: who became the local guide essentially for the ETA. And

476
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: she knew a really fun fact, like a piece of

477
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: trivia that you could use at a bar. There's a

478
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: really really important guy, Luis Carrero Blanco, who went to

479
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: mass the same time every day at the same church

480
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: in the city of Salamanca, which is about two hours

481
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: west of Madrid. And he only had one bodyguard when

482
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: he went to mass.

483
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: Very cool tripha, I know was this one? Who is

484
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: this one guy?

485
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you asked Admiral Luis Carrero Blanco. He

486
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: was deputy Prime Minister at the time when they first

487
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: started planning this, and so see like number two kind

488
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: of yeah, and he he runs the day to day

489
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: in Spain. He's also sort of building this like state

490
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: within the state in Spain. He's setting up informants within

491
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: the government to report to him rite some Game of

492
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: Thrones shit. Yeah, and he is rabidly anti Semitic. Franco

493
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm like, you know, I mean, I'm

494
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: only against the Judeo Bolsheviks and the Judeo Masons and

495
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: people celebrating in public. Blanco believed it was war to

496
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: the death between Christianity and Judaism. Okay, so this guy's

497
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: like bad bad news. Huh yeah, yeah, like the guy

498
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: that makes Franco seem moderate.

499
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's that is that that is quite the problem.

500
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, he goes around on a predictable schedule with

501
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: one bodyguard.

502
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 2: OK.

503
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: Cool, what a fun fact, I'm sure, Agala said, neat trivia.

504
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: That is that is great bar bar trivia. Yeah. So

505
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: the ETA talked it over and they were like, all right,

506
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: we're going to kidnap this guy and we'll probably be

507
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: able to exchange him for one hundred and fifty prisoners.

508
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: It's a good exchange rate. So they decided to kidnap him.

509
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: They plan on using three four member cells and then

510
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: ambushing him inside the church. They rented the mountselves out

511
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: some houses and also a clothing store where they figured

512
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: they could store their guy. Right, okay, while he's under

513
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: being kidnapped. It didn't go as planned. First, the clothing

514
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: store got broken into, and I don't entirely know why

515
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: this fucked everything up. I get it either like drew

516
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: too much heat or it was like too fucked up

517
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: to be a successful business or whatever. After that, they

518
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: couldn't use it anymore. Second, one of the people planning

519
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: all of this, his name was Texakia, which is Bosque

520
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: for short. He died in a shootout with cops in

521
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 1: the Bosque, in the Bosque region, so he wasn't as

522
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: useful anymore because he was dead, and their necromancy wasn't

523
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: on point. Eva Forest, whose name is a reference to

524
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: the end that Sophie is becoming nice, nice, thank you,

525
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: thank you. Eva Forest was like, well, all right, I'll

526
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: set you up an apartment and you can store guns

527
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: and the kidnap guy in the apartment. We'll like build

528
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: a little hidden thing. And so they're like, all right, chill,

529
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: And so some communist construction workers and Bosque separatists build

530
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: a hidden room for storing stuff in an apartment, which

531
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: is apparently like a big part of a lot of

532
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: the resistance to Franco At this point is you just

533
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: have like weird hidden caches and every apartment and stuff.

534
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I definitely appreciate a hidden room in an apartment.

535
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: Frankly, one of the things that I have learned by

536
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: doing this history show is that everyone should have everyone

537
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: the hidden room. Well, they just become necessary sometimes, like

538
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: the amount of work that people had to do during

539
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: the Holocaust, right to try and help people survive. Like

540
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: you just like never know when like here's a place

541
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: you can store a passport or a person, you just

542
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: like never know, and that's gonna come up, right.

543
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

544
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: Anyway, So Franco, there's a third problem. It's not really

545
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: a problem, a thing that happens Franco. He's getting old

546
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: as fuck, and so he names Blanco as the actual

547
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: prime minister, no longer the deputy prime minister. Oh interesting,

548
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: So he goes from running the day to day to

549
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: like kind of being in charge. Franco's still like in charge,

550
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: but he's like old and sick, but.

551
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: He's like sitting in a bed like chilling where other

552
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: people are like actually do all this shit.

553
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he goes from like kind of second in

554
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: charge to like absolutely second in charge slash kind of

555
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: in charge. Yeah, and the ETA is like, oh, this

556
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: might this might complicate things. Let's figure this out, and

557
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: they like brainstorm for a while.

558
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: They have the opportunity to do the funniest thing.

559
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so Ourgala he's like, you know what, there's

560
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: a ground floor space for rent on the street that

561
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,239
Speaker 1: the Guide drives every day. So let's rent that and

562
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: do what radicals do best, dig a fucking tunnel. Ah,

563
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: the old, the old tunnel diggers. Tunnels are back.

564
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: Tunnels are back.

565
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: They call the whole thing operation Ogre, because if you're

566
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: going to do a cool, wild crime, you better give

567
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: yourself cool nicknames and call the crime something cool.

568
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: That's true.

569
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: And Ourgala is what's known on this show as a

570
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: tunnel guy. There are two main purposes for tunnels historically.

571
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: One is to plant explosives to blow up dictators. The

572
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: other is to escape prison. Ourgala has done both. He well,

573
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: he's dug tunnels for both. He dug a prison tunnel

574
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: and a failed attempt to free a bunch of ETA prisoners.

575
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: But so this is not his first tunnel rodeo. He

576
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: rents the space and he's like, hello, we are sculpture students,

577
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: and that will explain all the coming and going and

578
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: the noise and the mess and all.

579
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: This dirt and clay and ground that we're going to

580
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: be yeah, pulling out yep.

581
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: And they spent a week digging the tunnel. Everything I've

582
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: read was like and it was very complicated and hard.

583
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: I read one source that was like it they spent

584
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: six months digging it. But the more the sources I

585
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: trusted better were like, they spent a week digging it.

586
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: And at eight am on December twentieth, nineteen seventy three,

587
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: they place one hundred and fifty pounds of explosives in

588
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: a T shape in the tunnel underneath the street. By

589
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: nine am they're up on the street and two of

590
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: them are Gala and another guy named kiss Kerr Bosk

591
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: for short. They're dressed up like electricians. Our Gala is

592
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: up on the ladder with a detonator and his like

593
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 1: electrician outfit. Right, that's pretty funny.

594
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

595
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: At nine point thirty six am, a black Dodge Dart.

596
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: I've run into multiple ideas of what the car was.

597
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm going with Dart.

598
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: You're just gonna say it. It's a black Dotch start.

599
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was like a couple different models that I've

600
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: seen claimed, but a black Dodge fascists.

601
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: Fascists do like driving black Dodgers these days.

602
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: So it's coming down, driving down the road with that

603
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: Asso Blanco in it, and there's a car double park,

604
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: so the driver has to swerve. I think the bombers

605
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: put the car double park there, but i'm because it

606
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: has to serve on a specific part of the road

607
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: or something. That's the impression I get from what I'm reading.

608
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: But it's like translations and jog hisiscar signals to Argala,

609
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: who presses the button and the Spanish space program is born.

610
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: The car and its three occupants made a sixty five

611
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: feet into the air. That's pretty good for the first flight.

612
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: They cleared a five story church, landed on the other

613
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: side in a courtyard or on a second story balcony,

614
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: depending on the source. And that's how Prime Minister Luise

615
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: Cadeto Blanco becomes Spain's first astronaut. As a lot of

616
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: Spanish folks refer to him. Other good jokes include is

617
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's cut

618
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: at Oblanco.

619
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 3: So incredibly based.

620
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, man, So they launched it pretty high. Yeah.

621
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've also read one hundred feet. I've read like

622
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: thirty like thirty three meters, and I've read like, I

623
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: don't like twenty meters or whatever.

624
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: But that's impressive because like they also had to like

625
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: it had to like go through a little bit of

626
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: the ground that they that they dug under as well.

627
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's pictures of the pothole potholes and the

628
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: wrong word, the collapsed street and the timing. Imagine the timing.

629
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, like these types of these, these types of car

630
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: bombings are usually not this successful.

631
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the average I mean, we went over some

632
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: failed bombings in last you know, on Monday, but we

633
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: we didn't go over well enough on Monday. Was how

634
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: once a tiny little Entish sprout, Sophie is now Eva

635
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: Forest the communist and who okay, I don't know, I'm

636
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: supposed to somehow turn this into Sophie becoming an end successfully.

637
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: Is Sophie like like the baby Groot territory?

638
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: Now no, that was before. Now that Washie's gone past

639
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: baby Groot and his regular grout, I'm regular pigular grout.

640
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, sure, big sprouts? Yeah, good, good for you, Sophie,

641
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: you looks so uh you look so gangly.

642
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

643
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, to be fair, there is actually like one, two, three, four, five,

644
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: six plants behind Sophie on the frame, that's true, and

645
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: no plants behind either myself or Margaret.

646
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: Can I tell you my favorite theory about ens. This

647
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: won't mean anything to Garrison. I think, Garrison, do you

648
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: know that the Ens the n y with all life? No,

649
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: the ants are the tree Beard's tree Beard is an

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Speaker 1: end and they talk very slowly and they have counsels

651
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Speaker 1: and they destroy damns and they're cool, right, but they're

652
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Speaker 1: all men because they can't find their wives. The ntwives

653
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Speaker 1: have gone missing. And my theory is that could you

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Speaker 1: imagine being man splained to by an end?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, no.

656
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Speaker 1: Because it would just take so long, well it would

657
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Speaker 1: be it be insufferable. Yeah, no, wonder the N wives left.

658
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Speaker 3: Huh ah.

659
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Speaker 1: And that is the kind of content that all of

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Speaker 1: the ads that you're about to hear offer you.

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Speaker 2: And we're back.

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Speaker 1: So one fun and by fun, I mean on fun.

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Speaker 1: Fact about the jokes about Spain's first astronaut is that

664
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Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, a Spanish trans woman named Cassandra Vera

665
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Speaker 1: was sentenced to a year in prison for making jokes

666
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Speaker 1: about Carrero Blanco on Twitter.

667
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: What what are you serious?

668
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah to spoiler alert, the Supreme Court overturned this conviction,

669
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: but it was like this like whole big fucking thing.

670
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Speaker 1: Her jokes included, did Carrero Blanco also go back to

671
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: future with the car? Back to the future with this car?

672
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of other jokes that all either did.

673
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: It's like very tame at like things to say. Yeah,

674
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: And some of the tweets that were like used against

675
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: her in court were like what, you can't even make

676
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: jokes about this in Spain anymore or whatever.

677
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: You know.

678
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: Blanco's own granddaughter was upset by the prosecution of Cassandra Vera,

679
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: saying quote, I'm scared of a society in which freedom

680
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Speaker 1: of expression, however regrettable it may be, can lead to

681
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Speaker 1: jail sentences.

682
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's that's good, I guess.

683
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. So back to the bask Space program. They're unwitting astronaut.

684
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: So the two fake electricians, right, they've pressed this thing,

685
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: they've sent the launch in.

686
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: All of our guys are still on the ground.

687
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they come running down and they're like gas

688
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: gas and start running away as if it was a

689
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: gas mane that blew that blewe Yeah. Yeah, and so

690
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: it adds to the chaos of the scene and it

691
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: makes them look less suspicious.

692
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

693
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: They ran around the corner. They got picked up by

694
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Speaker 1: a third conspirator at Sulo or care in Bosque. They

695
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: drove away. They switched vehicles once and they made it

696
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: to their hideout. Carrero Blanco died of his wounds forty

697
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: five minutes later at the hospital. His companions joined him

698
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: in death shortly thereafter. Thus they all lived up to

699
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: their favorite fascist slogan, Viva lamorte long lived death. At

700
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Speaker 1: eleven PM, the ETA took credit for the action. It

701
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Speaker 1: took the press weeks to report the ETA communicy. I

702
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: guess either because the press wanted so like like didn't

703
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Speaker 1: believe it, or they were like waiting for like the

704
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: political dust to settle to know whether it was safe

705
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Speaker 1: to report it. Is kind of my biggest guess.

706
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think they live in a fascist country. Yeah,

707
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: you would want to like feel it out, I think

708
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Speaker 2: a little bit.

709
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the three conspirators wait about ten days in

710
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: the hideout and then their friend Eva drove them to

711
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: a border town in the Bosque Country. They crossed into

712
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: France over a river, and they lived underground and two

713
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: of the three of them made it to their natural

714
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: end of days. That's good for those two. What happened

715
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: to the other? Oh, I'll get to it. The assassination

716
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: is credited as hastening the liberalization, aka they move away

717
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: from fascism of Spain. The prime minister who placed this

718
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: guy was more open to change. I don't know whether

719
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Speaker 1: it was.

720
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be too if the alast gay got yeah,

721
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 2: last guy got said thirty three meters over our church.

722
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

723
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Speaker 2: Oh they all tried to some democracy. Yeah, totally.

724
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Speaker 1: Launching dictators into space. It's never morally incorrect. Strategically, it's

725
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: a roll of the dice, sometimes better, sometimes worse. This

726
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: time it was better. Yeah, this was a more or

727
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: less perfect action. Right, They got their guys. It seems

728
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: the collateral was low. Yeah, they got their dude. Yeah,

729
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: none of them got well. So Eva Forrest got caught

730
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: nine months after the attack. She spent a few years

731
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Speaker 1: in prison, but fortunately with the death of fascism in Spain,

732
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Speaker 1: there was an amnesty and she gets out right and

733
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: during all of this she writes a fake tell all

734
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Speaker 1: about the action, and she peppers it with false clues

735
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Speaker 1: to help hide her still underground co conspirators.

736
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Speaker 2: Great.

737
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so she's like in her version of the story,

738
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: and you'll see people see people reporting this. Her version

739
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: of the story is like, oh, all the bombers immediately

740
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: fled to Portugal, right not. They waited for a week

741
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: and then went to France.

742
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

743
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: And she went on to be part of the conversion

744
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: to democracy of Spain. She became a senator, She stayed

745
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: involved in Bosque separatism even though she was Catalan, and

746
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: she lived a long and happy life before dying in

747
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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven.

748
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Speaker 2: What an arc, going from a political assassin to a senator.

749
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Speaker 2: I know.

750
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Speaker 1: I wonder what her anarchist parents think of this.

751
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: It might be like, whoa, you did good? Watch up? Honey? Yeah, no,

752
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: come on, honey, yeah, well you know what I mean,

753
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: Like ever they can up in the air. Yeah, I've

754
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: never blown up a prime minister, will exactly? He who

755
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: was blown up?

756
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: A prime fascist prime minister cast the first stone at

757
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: Eva Forrest. Afterwards, the Bosque separatist stuff, the government sets

758
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: up right wing death squads in a Bosque country and

759
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: starts murdering separatists just like. They kill more than a

760
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Speaker 1: dozen activists, and in nineteen seventy eight, the kind of

761
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: like revenge kill Argala, who was probably the main conspirator.

762
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: In December nineteen seventy eight, they blow him up like

763
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Speaker 1: in his car yea, and they use explosives that were

764
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: given to them by soldiers at an American Army base,

765
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Speaker 1: which they like claim that it was like a rogue

766
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: soldier was just like, oh, I'm just giving my buddy

767
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Speaker 1: some bombs, you know. Sure, Kissker, for his part, survived

768
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: a right wing death squad attack and might still be alive.

769
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Speaker 1: It didn't I didn't find his death. Exula made it

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Speaker 1: to two thousand and eight before dying of cancer. So

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Speaker 1: overall they did really fucking good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it sounds like Spade could be

773
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: a lot worse if this didn't happen at this specific time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like probably the death of Franco would have

775
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: led to democratization, but I don't know if they had

776
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: a drawcist prime minister.

777
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: Could Yeah it it may not have lasted like much longer,

778
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: but it still seems like there. It probably would have

779
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: would have been worse in a few ways. Yeah.

780
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely. What finally got Franco in the end was Parkinson's disease,

781
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: and November nineteen seventy five, after a month or so

782
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: on a coma, he died. Around Spain, people got drunken celebration.

783
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: Everyone was fucking obviously not everyone, but a whole lot

784
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: of people were fucking happy. The News asked some people

785
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: why they filed past his coffin, and the answer was

786
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: that we wanted to make sure the old fascist was

787
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: really dead. I mean, yeah, that's that makes sense. So

788
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: it was like probably like, oh, there's all these mortars here,

789
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: and it's people being like, oh, thank god.

790
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: Oh god, Yeah, that's him.

791
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

792
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: Uh.

793
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Nixon praised Franco after his death, saying he unified Spain.

794
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: Classic classic Nixon move. Yeah. He was buried in the

795
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: Valley of the Fallen, which was a memorial built by

796
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: enslaved prisoners at the end of the Civil War to

797
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: throw all the bodies of dead people into and he

798
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: was the only person in the war who didn't die

799
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: in the war who was buried there. In twenty seventeen,

800
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: the Spanish government was like, you know what, fuck that guy,

801
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 1: and they exhumed him because it was disrespectful to bury

802
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: him alongside his victims, and he got reburied in the

803
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: same cemetery as his first astronaut. That's nice, yeah, Murray

804
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: Bookchin said about him in place of an obituary. Francisco

805
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: Franco was denied a place besides Hitler and Stalin as

806
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: one of history's most terrifying mass murderers. It was only

807
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: because of the demographic limitations imposed upon him by the

808
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: Iberian Peninsula. You know, was just there weren't that many

809
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: people for him to murder. In nineteen seventy seven, Spain

810
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: announced the Pact of Forgetting, which was an amnesty law

811
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: for the fascists and the anti fascist but mostly anti

812
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: fascists were dead and murdered, right, and it was a

813
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: way to try to mend the divisions in society by

814
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: being like, uh, no one's fault, you.

815
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: Know, huh, you have a lot of a lot of

816
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: different feelings on that, and yeah.

817
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: Thirty years later, in two thousand and seven, they passed

818
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: the Historical Memory Law, which was like, no, we remember, yeah,

819
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: we had a fascist dictator and it was bad. Yeah,

820
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: so here's the people who fought him and the people

821
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: blew up his prime minister.

822
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is next next time I've been boise Idaho.

823
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 2: I take my.

824
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Speaker 1: Respects, Garson. You got anything to plug for.

825
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: Pluggables, I would say, uh, check the I suppose just

826
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: check the Lantic Community Press Collective or Defend the Forest

827
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: accounts to see what the city council did on Monday

828
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Speaker 2: regarding the funding of cop City and then what steps

829
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Speaker 2: will be taken after that. I don't know what will

830
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: happen because we're recording this in the past, but I

831
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Speaker 2: would that is my main plug. I've been covering stuff

832
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: like that on It could happen here when I have

833
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: time to put together like a full scripted episode. So

834
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 2: there will be more of those in the future as well.

835
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Speaker 2: But yeah, let's uh, let's go see what the Atlanta

836
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: City Council voted to do and what people will then

837
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: choose to do in response.

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00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am currently kickstarting a tabletop role playing game.

839
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: It feels not as serious after that, so you should

840
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: do the things that Garrison said. I'm kickstarting a role

841
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: playing game called Pan Number City, and this time I

842
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: even blow brought up a little blurb about it. There's

843
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: a black fog that hangs over the city, and it's

844
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: not as metaphorical as you might hope. It's col dust

845
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: Somewhere up through them, there's a glorious silver city hovering

846
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: in the sunshine. But don't concern yourself much with the

847
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: floating quarter, because only the rich and the holy will

848
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: ever see it. Ground Side, orphans dig through rubble and

849
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: trash to scavenge the parts to fix their motorcycles. Street

850
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: poets self fungus and brawl over territory, and bureaucrats ride

851
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: black horses to midnight salons where they plot the death

852
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: of the god King. The graveyard's been squatted by immigrants

853
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: now for longer than you've been alive, and there's a

854
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: gang of nihilist x marines who seem intent on blowing

855
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: up half of everything. Welcome to Pannumber City. There's plenty

856
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 1: to do if you don't mind the dust or the smoke,

857
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: or the crime or the monsters. And so if that

858
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: sounds like fun to you, you can go back it

859
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: on Kickstarter. We've already succeeded at our goal, and we've

860
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: already reached our first stretch goal. Probably by the time

861
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: you hear this will reach a second stretch goal. But

862
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: the last stretch goal that may or may not have

863
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: been reached ever, I don't know, involves me reading a

864
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: book set in this world. So you should force me to.

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