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Speaker 1: So let's begin this week's episode. So I am super

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Speaker 1: excited about this week's guest. She has been in my

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Speaker 1: do it. Mam. How are you feeling? I am well,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I feel like everyone's gonna get excited by

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Speaker 1: seeing you opposed to my best friend. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: it's like this is my hayout buddy when I come

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Speaker 1: So how are you feeling? I feel wonderful. How has

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Speaker 1: the pandemic been treating you? Pandemic is not bothering me

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Speaker 1: how was your upbringing? I have a wonderful bringing. I

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Speaker 1: Are you the only one that successful all of your siblings?

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Speaker 1: So one of them girls too, speaking of drugs. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And I'm so glad that I didn't win, because that's

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Speaker 1: I was too good and he wouldn't allow me to win.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't allow me to have that intimate contact. And

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Speaker 1: why I was driving you crazy. Yeah. I was like,

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Speaker 1: But um, it was that time my mother told me,

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Speaker 1: you say you would have? Then I would have been said,

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Speaker 1: that's what happened to the people to win it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a fact. Mm hmmm. So what made you like

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Speaker 1: it was a total walk away. It's like guy erased

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Speaker 1: seem like, you know, I'm trying to voast. But I

428
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: know who I am. That's all that mattered, you know.

429
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: And but when I went somewhere and I showed up

430
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: to be the engineer for the day, nobody messed with me.

431
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: They used to. They think I didn't know my job.

432
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: They go over and they open all the ports and

433
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: they pulled the porch and it's called discharged port. It's

434
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: the engine is the one who carries the water. The

435
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: truck is the one that carries the labs. So being

436
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: an engineer, you had to know your um how much

437
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: water is, seeing through certain holes is and how much pressure.

438
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: And so I would go to the rig and I

439
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: set my rig for the day. And when we go out,

440
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: I get up something and I go to set the

441
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: rig and water's going everywhere. I try to make me

442
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: look like a food and so this is when I

443
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: be in the white neighborhood. Oh black neighborhood, white companies.

444
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: Still something wrong with that picture. So um, one day

445
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: we came back in for lunch and I say, hey,

446
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: I guess y'all trying to make me look like a fool.

447
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: You're playing with my rig and making sure water is

448
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: going everywhere. And I pointed out, I said, I'm not

449
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: gonna fix it. I'm not going back to the rig

450
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: and check it out again because I'm not the one

451
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: in the build. You are right, you're gonna be the

452
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: one burning up in there trying to figure out why

453
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: you don't have no water, why you're trying to sabotage

454
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: your asses in the burning built. So you think about that,

455
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna leave that read just like you said it.

456
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: They stopped messing with my red. That's how dumb they are.

457
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: They think they set me up, you setting yourself. I

458
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: can't getting no water because you don't want that. If

459
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: all y'all going in and die, that's all. They're gonna

460
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: take me down for a drug test, my pastor drug test,

461
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: just like oh well, So that was the end of that.

462
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: They stopped playing that red. So we spoke about this

463
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: last night. But do you feel like firefighters receive enough

464
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: recognition for what y'all do? Because I really don't hear

465
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: a lot of stories about firefighters. Well, I don't know.

466
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: I think that in the city of Chicago, they don't

467
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: get lost, they get a don't just can never say enough,

468
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: what's he not? But they get a lot of recognition

469
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: for what they've done. Matter of fact, day before yesterday,

470
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: I won't mention where, but I had two firefighters. I

471
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: had a fire company respond to Hyde Park in the

472
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: city of Chicago of a girl distrust in the bathroom.

473
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: Her parents called and said, she's distressed. We don't know

474
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: what she's doing. Long story short, we wrote them up

475
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: for award. She had hung herself with her apron on

476
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: the back of the door, and the more you pushed

477
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: the door, the more the hinge pulled and choked her out.

478
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: So these two firefighters, four stay weight in. One grabbed

479
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: the legs, they pushed the door, He held her up,

480
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: and they cut her down. I made sure they got recognition.

481
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: I wrote on my foot an award it Yes she

482
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: and she happened to be a sister, which is I

483
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 1: because we don't do that. I'm sorry. I don't mean

484
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: to be funny, but it's not often it's not too much.

485
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: We can take that. We don't do that, you know.

486
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: So mm hmm. So being at this is a male

487
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: dominant industry. What was some other hardships that you face?

488
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: The hardest thing was being male dominant. I was I

489
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: was always the girl. I was always a very girly girl,

490
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: and I refused to be a dyke or I mean,

491
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: back in my day when I first came on, it

492
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: was a lot of hard chicks. I refused to say

493
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: I had to be one of the boys to be

494
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: a part of the game. I'm never gonna be one

495
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: of the boys, and I'm gonna demand respect from the boys.

496
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to not be a girl because I

497
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: work with men, and I maintain my femininity from the

498
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: whole time. I also maintain a bit of distance because

499
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: it was some delicious fireman. Now that I can look

500
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: back and ain't got passed that I never nobody are

501
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: never gonna admit to it. I'm never gonna admit to it.

502
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: And my anonymous okay, well, let me say I got

503
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: it in a couple of times in the firehouse with

504
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: somebody else in love with a good time anyway. I

505
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: think it makes for bad co workers when you have

506
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: a relationship around all these men, because you can't stop

507
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: the next guy from flirting with you, and then dude

508
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: is standing here like, look a minute, that's my piece

509
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: you right. So y'all working together, and then you get

510
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: promoting and you become their boss. That's when the cut

511
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: off was a no no. Note. I would never even

512
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: ever across the line when I became their boss, okay,

513
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: because I wasn't gonna go down that way with somebody

514
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: to say, well, she took advantage of me as a firefighter.

515
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: You know, you know they were trying. But when I

516
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: was a firefighter, we was on playing field. I feel

517
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: like when you became cheating, I went to went to

518
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: your job with my with your daughter, like they all

519
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: like look up to and you respect you like you

520
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: like the mama there. Then't had no choice, right But

521
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: they not even that. It's just that they know who

522
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: I was. They know who I am, They know how

523
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: I got it. They know I didn't sleep my way

524
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: to the top. They know that I wasn't playing politics

525
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: to get to the top. They knew that I was

526
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: who they are, and I worked my way to the top.

527
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: And when you do that, you don't have to demarriage back.

528
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna get it, give it to you. Right. We're

529
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: looking back on everything you've done in your life. Do

530
00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: you have any regrets? I don't have regrets. I wasted

531
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: twenty four years with an individual, but it really wasn't

532
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: a waste because I learned in it. Okay too, I

533
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: thought I wanted more children, but my daughter told me

534
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: self because I was on her as her spoil self.

535
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, no, I am alone, and I'm glad

536
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: I ain't got no SI. She is a brat. Okay,

537
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: but I thought, could you see us have more kids? Oh?

538
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have more children. I can't

539
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: wait to have grandchildren. Oh I'm just gonna Oh my god,

540
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: what can you want with sixteen? Let's go get you

541
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: in the stage. Yeah, I can't wait to have some grandchildren.

542
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: That's why I got three dogs. And she's, boy, these

543
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: they ain't better food? Do we do? Yes? What else

544
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: she would have did? Because I I can't see you

545
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: a lot of kids? Not a lot. I just said

546
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: I probably had one more, and I would have liked

547
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: to have one more. But if it wasn't gonna be

548
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: with her dad, I didn't want to have not much else.

549
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: I wanted all my children with the same person. Her

550
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: dad and I are like brothers and sister now just

551
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: like really close. He's still trying to get back to

552
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: that has never happened. I mean, I can see why.

553
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: I feel like that was a very important relationship in

554
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: your life too. Oh yeah, my my my daughter's dad.

555
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: It was a very very important relationship. He he um.

556
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: He taught me a lot of things. And when I

557
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: say he taught me a lot of things. You know,

558
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: once I had my daughter, I was I became a whole, another,

559
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: a whole, another mpity. I was just like an out

560
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: of body experience. I wasn't at spol self. Was it

561
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: was me, me, me and how I look and what

562
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: I need and I gotta look like this or have that.

563
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: It was raising my child right as some things you

564
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: just don't let your chelsea. My daughter was my daughters

565
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: in high school about to graduate. Before she hadn't seen

566
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: another man in her house. Now, it may come over,

567
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: but they never slept. It may visit in the daytime,

568
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: but at nighttime you went home was you would not

569
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: be over my kid's head, right, So how important is that?

570
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: Why was that so important to you? Because I don't

571
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: feel that no man deserved the spot to be over

572
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: of my child's head. Her her her home was already built.

573
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: They were just outside of coming in, so she already

574
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: had a hole with just me. Even if her dad

575
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: was down the street. She didn't neither daddy. She had that.

576
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: But I didn't want my daughter to think that it

577
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: was okay that another male would have any kind of

578
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: say so over her life. In her life. Now, if

579
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: I was meant, if I was getting married, that would

580
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: have been totally different. But even I had a long

581
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: term relationship, I just didn't feel that a man should

582
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: be over my daughter's head. I, as a young lady,

583
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: had a stepfather and we didn't see eye to eye,

584
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: and not to go back a whole lot of years,

585
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: but I will say I had a whole lot of

586
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: life lessons. I left home at sixteen and went to

587
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: the job for it. But that's why I graduated school

588
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: because I hated my stepfather. It was some hard lessons

589
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: in there. So I went to a whole city in

590
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: this whole state that I knew nothing about. And I

591
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: was in a dormitory with girls from all over, all

592
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: over everywhere, even from as far as the Shock. Who's

593
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: a shock? Well, I thought I'm a girl. That's what

594
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: happened when you think you're gone, even from the Virgin Islands.

595
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: So the girls from New York. Oh man, there's some

596
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: bad girls. Some girls from New York and some girls

597
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: from the Virgin Islands and girls from Detroit, and oh man,

598
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: we just made a covenant. We was just like, we're

599
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna stick together. We're not gonna let this happens. We're

600
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: gonna all stick together. Man. Look up, I got girls

601
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: on a stroll. We got girls on drugs, and they

602
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: had them out there in the world. You know. But

603
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: I was strong for that. I told you I had that.

604
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: It just couldn't compete. And like I said, I had

605
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: that relationship with God that every time I took a

606
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: step and it wasn't right. Let me know whatnot all

607
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: the time, all the time, says she said. She says

608
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: she knows Gods hear you. Oh my God, amazing. He's

609
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: just like it's just like right there. I just I

610
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: just feel it and feel it all the time. It's

611
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: like Okay, I guess not what he wants me to do.

612
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 1: Just this ain't that, you know. But before we leave,

613
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: what's the advice she would give to our listeners. Don't

614
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: waste time. M Don't waste time on something you're trying

615
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: to fix, because if it's for you, you ain't gotta

616
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: fix it. If you got to make somebody think alone

617
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: the same path that you're trying to go down, that

618
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: ain't your that ain't your somebody. Your somebody is already

619
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: on the same pathis and you waste time. You look

620
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: up and your time is gone. You can't have no

621
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: babies no more, you know, waste it all this time

622
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: on his knucklehead. You know I had friends who did that. Also,

623
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: Love your parents, you know what I mean parents, I say,

624
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: whoever raised you. You gotta love them to the utmost.

625
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: You gotta just put everything you got into them. You

626
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: gotta take them to dinner, and take them to get

627
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: their nails done, let them go to the movies with you.

628
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: You just have to take everything you learn and put

629
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: it back into them, because some of them they just

630
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: long it. Not only that when your parents leave you.

631
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: If you did all that and you put a fan

632
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: into them, and you took care of them. You don't

633
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: have no tears. The people that screened the louders at

634
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: the funerals, the ones who did the least, that's a fact,

635
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: those are the ones they got all that regret. I

636
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: couldn't get a tear gone mm hmm, and I felt bad.

637
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't cry on my mom and dad, and I

638
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: thought someone's wrong with me. Well, I learned early on.

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Speaker 1: My best friend didn't have no mother. My other best

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Speaker 1: friend didn't have a mother. My boyfriend didn't have a mother.

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Speaker 1: And everybody told me how they wish, I wish, I wish. Well.

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Speaker 1: I took from that and I made sure that I

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Speaker 1: feet done together, We ate dinner. I took her to

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Speaker 1: And when my mom left here, I said, all is well,

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Speaker 1: So well, I appreciate you, mom. I feel like you've

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Speaker 1: been my mom since I was eighteen that something I

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Speaker 1: called you and that boy I call her crying because

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Speaker 1: my first love has some bitch there at his probate.

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Speaker 1: He's like, you take a shot, don't see you sweat.

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Speaker 1: That's right, But now you we definitely look up to you.

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Speaker 1: We're very fortunate to have you in our lives, and

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Speaker 1: we always tell your daughter that you're the best to

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Speaker 1: don't you'd be like whatever? But I have any questions,

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Speaker 1: comments to anything. And I was suppose a good interview

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Speaker 1: because I interview a CEO, interview police officers. I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize people, I never interviewed a fire fire. So you're

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Speaker 1: the highest wrek of them, Salian chief. Okay, okay, So

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Speaker 1: if you have any questions, comments or concerns, make sure

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Speaker 1: to email me a hello at the PhD podcast dot com.

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Speaker 1: And until next time Later