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Speaker 1: If you're unfamiliar with the concept around here, this usually

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Speaker 1: So if you want to talk college football, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: to understand something. I did not come out of Syracuse

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Speaker 1: have happened with Joe Milton. And if it did, Tennessee's

429
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: not dropping off a whole heck of a lot this

430
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Speaker 1: year if that's happening. And also if it's happening, yeah,

431
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: you absolutely could see some first round potential with Joe Milton.

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Speaker 1: This does not serve as the late kick twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four mont Draft, by the way, next question on this

434
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Speaker 1: lovely Wednesday morning or Tuesday morning. We used to do

435
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Speaker 1: this thing on Wednesday. Austin hit us up and this one.

436
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Colin. I know that you're gonna cut this

437
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Speaker 1: for individual use, so this is your endpoint here, Austin.

438
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Speaker 1: I love you, and I really appreciate that you are

439
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: contributing to the show in a meaningful, positive way, and

440
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 1: that's where the pleasantry's end. So just know what I'm

441
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: about to do is not personal, but I'm going to

442
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: have to eviscerate you here, he said. With the cotton

443
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: Bowl in the rough side of town, dealing with traffic

444
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: for the fair and declining stadium experience. Should the Red

445
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: River Shootout be moved to Jerry World, Oh you Texas,

446
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: Austin's saying, do we take it out of the Cotton

447
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Speaker 1: Bowl and do we move it over out into just

448
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: that great patch of nothingness that AT and T Stadium

449
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: has parked in. He continues, I feel like I know

450
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 1: what your answer is going to be, but even I

451
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: have come around to the idea of moving it. Well,

452
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: that's a character flaw, Austin. It's not too late to

453
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Speaker 1: fix yourself. We all have flaws about ourselves. One of

454
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: yours is you think the Red Rivers Shootout should exist

455
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: anywhere other than the Cotton Bowl. The world is too

456
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: sanitized now. I don't know how else to say it.

457
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: The college football world has attempted to sanitize itself a

458
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: little bit too much. The Cotton Bowl should never be sanitized.

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00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: Oh you, Texas should never be sanitized. You ought to

460
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: suffer going to this game. You ought to have back

461
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: pain for a week afterwards, after having to sit on

462
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Speaker 1: a metal bleacher for four hours. You should not be

463
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: able to dress like you're going to the Kentucky Derby

464
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: and feel comfortable at this game. You would in Jerry

465
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: world that right there, we're rolling b roll in the studio.

466
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Speaker 1: That is where that game belongs. It's the best experience

467
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Speaker 1: I've had cover in this sport. Two years ago I

468
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: got to go to this game for the first time,

469
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Speaker 1: and as I've told you guys before, full disclosure, I

470
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: thought they were over hyping the game. All those years

471
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Speaker 1: I lived in the South, I thought the Iron Bowl

472
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Speaker 1: was it. I thought Georgia, Florida was it. And I

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Speaker 1: thought that those folks out in the Big twelve were

474
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Speaker 1: hyping that game up just a little bit too much.

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Speaker 1: And then I went to it, and I was wrong, Austin,

476
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: just like you are now. I was wrong, and I

477
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: have apologized profusely. Not only that, I call it the

478
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Speaker 1: best experience I have ever been a part of in

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Speaker 1: college football. The fifty to fifty crowd split back and

480
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Speaker 1: forth scoring. It helped that we had just a firework

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Speaker 1: explosion of a game. I walked out of the stadium

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Speaker 1: and went Nate funnel Cake at halftime. You're not doing that.

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Speaker 1: You're not walking out of AT and T Stadium and

484
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: going anywhere close because there is nothing close. You've got

485
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: air conditioning every other day of the year. You don't

486
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Speaker 1: need it. Okay, men have survived far worse than sitting

487
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Speaker 1: out in the Texas san for four hours. I want

488
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Speaker 1: sixty five year old guys in saggy, sweat drenched V

489
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Speaker 1: neck T shirts. No one cares what they look like.

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00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: No one cares that the bathrooms may be a little decrepit.

491
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: And there's the trough instead of the individual urinal. That's

492
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Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. That's what it's supposed to look like.

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Speaker 1: And I would encourage you, Austin. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you've been to this game or not, but I've been

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00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: to the OU Texas game at the Cotton Bowl. I've

496
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: been to several big games at AT and T Stadium.

497
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Speaker 1: It's an immaculate venue. If I was playing a concert,

498
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: I'd prefer it to be there. If I was holding WrestleMania,

499
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: I would prefer it to be there. But we're not.

500
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Speaker 1: We are not pro wrestling promoters or concert promoters. I

501
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: am trying to actively promote dare I say, salvage the

502
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: greatest parts of the greatest sport on this planet. And

503
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: one of the greatest things when it comes to that

504
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: game is the ambiance the Cowboys play in that stadium.

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00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: I don't care where they play, but when OU and

506
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: Texas play, there is a lot about where that game

507
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: is part that contributes to the pageantry and ambiance and

508
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: tradition of what makes the game great. Why I ever

509
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: heard about it to begin with? So it it just

510
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: disappoints me. I'm not mad at you, Austin. I'm just

511
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: a little disappointed. Atmosphere matters, authenticity matters, and I don't

512
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: get that over at a sanitized, climate controlled venue which

513
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: I've already got to watch in the playoffs national title game,

514
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: and however far you guys are about to expand that postseason.

515
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: Just please, can we cling to one or two bits

516
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: of tradition about this sport instead of overhauling everything. Get

517
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: off my law on, Austin. I'm messing with you. I

518
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: love you. Next up, interesting question here. Dustin hit us

519
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: up and said, do you see brands like Nike or

520
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: under Armor getting involved in NIL to the extent of

521
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: gaining exclusive rights to entire conferences example under Armour holding

522
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: exclusive rights to Big ten school logos for licensing purposes

523
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: and players being considered under Armor athletes. I can't rule

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00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: that out. I do question on the surface whether the

525
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: value proposition is there for the apparel companies. So what

526
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: he's saying is, you already know that Georgia is a

527
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: Nike school, But what if the SEC was a Nike

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00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: conference and I could I could see a world where

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Speaker 1: where we delve into those waters. I just I wonder

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Speaker 1: if the value proposition's there for the apparel companies. These

531
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: aren't mom and pop shops, they're not LLCs. These are

532
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: publicly traded companies. So you can't just on a whim

533
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Speaker 1: decide that you're doing that. It's got to be it's

534
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: got to be the right move for business. And if

535
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Speaker 1: you've already got your check mark or your under armor logan,

536
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: if you've already got that on helmets, and if you've

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Speaker 1: already got it on the branding from the shoes to

538
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: the uniforms, and it's very very visible on Saturdays. I

539
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: don't know that I need to saturate the market any

540
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: more than that. Now, on the college football fans side

541
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: of things, you don't really care about what I just said.

542
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: What you want to know is is a Nike ever

543
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: going to disproportionately prop up Oregon football to that I

544
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: would say they already do. I'm not sure how much

545
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: more they could do, But then you get really out

546
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: of the nuts and bolts, and what some of you

547
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: just flat out want to know is, is someone like

548
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: Phil Knight ever just going to decide I'm throwing five

549
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: million bucks per year in this collective let's go game on.

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00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it kind of redirects the question

551
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: that was just asked there, because that's a Phil Knight thing.

552
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: That's not a Nike thing. You're asking about the overall

553
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: apparel companies, and will they ever just say, hey, instead

554
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: of what we pay individual entities, just let's just go

555
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: all in. Let's just partner with the big ten. Let's

556
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: partner with the SEC, and these athletes now are Nike

557
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: or under Armor athletes in exchange for signing their letter

558
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: of intent with a member institution in that conference. Also,

559
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much that would hold up. I

560
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: want you to picture this before we move on. Let's

561
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: say I go to Michigan. Let's say what Michigan Adidas

562
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: Jesse or under Armour Dan Jordan. Yeah, Okay, that's a

563
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: bad example. Okay, So let's just say Auburn. Auburn's an

564
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Speaker 1: under armour school. So let's say I go to Auburn,

565
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: which is an under armour school, but Nike comes to me.

566
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Speaker 1: Far fetched, though it may be just work with me here.

567
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: Nike comes to me and they want to make me

568
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Speaker 1: a brand ambassador for Nike as a college athlete. Is

569
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: Auburn really about to have the legal grounds? Are they

570
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: really about to have the ability to look me in

571
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Speaker 1: the eye and say you are forbidden from taking that

572
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: Nike money because you're an under armor athlete? And I

573
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: look them and say, I never agreed to that, And

574
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: they said, we agreed to it for you. You agreed

575
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: to it when you signed your letter of intent. Ah.

576
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: I know, in a bygone world you may look at

577
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: it and say, tough kid, that's the breaks. We don't

578
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: live in that world anymore. That whole player empowerment movement

579
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: we've been in lately makes me think anytime you upset players,

580
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: and anytime anytime it looks like the power dynamic starts

581
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: to shift against the players, I would quiver every night

582
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: when I laid my head down if our administrator thinking

583
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: that I'm taking a step that's a little bit too

584
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: over the line, because I know how many lawyers out

585
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: there are hungry for me to do exactly that. So

586
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't know that we're going to go there. But

587
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: if it did happen, it's not like I would be shocked.

588
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: It's not exactly my area of expertise. I'm gonna take

589
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: a sip out of not the choutlice because it's merely

590
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: a podcast. But we do have a nice, plain clear

591
00:31:53,800 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: Dixie cup here, same mysterious liquid. Let's roll on here.

592
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: Another pressing question, what would be different about the sport

593
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: if COVID and the twenty twenty COVID season never happened

594
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: from Tampa, Florida. You know how many different directions you

595
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: could go with the answer to this question. You can

596
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: go anywhere you want to. You can say the championships

597
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: would have been different. You could say some coaches wouldn't

598
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: have been fired. You can say some players would not

599
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: have had another year of eligibility that contributed to championship

600
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: teams this past year, and all of it would be accurate.

601
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: It's like trying to nail jello to the wall, but

602
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: it would be accurate in summarizing things that way. But

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00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: you know where my mind went. Actually, I was going

604
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: to talk about more on the field matters, but I'll

605
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: speak personally, there is nothing that turned over our industry

606
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: more than that COVID year. And that was when I

607
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: was brand new here and me and Director Colin were

608
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: all alone down in the studio in Brentwood, Tennessee. And

609
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: I got here, and then a couple of months later,

610
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: building got hit by a tornado on March third, and

611
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: then we go into lockdown a couple of weeks after that,

612
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: and Direct Colin and I was just kind of floating

613
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: out there, what do we do? Hello? Is anyone here?

614
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: No office was locked down. We were the only two people,

615
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: remember that column. We were the only two people who

616
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: had access to the building, and so we were just

617
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: They tossed us in the pool and didn't give us

618
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: a single swimming lesson. We figured our way out, though

619
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: we weren't complete idiots. We figured our way out. But

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Speaker 1: Director Colin and I had several conversations. But I remember

621
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Speaker 1: one of the conversations when we when we started to

622
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Speaker 1: see COVID shift from just something that was happening to

623
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: something everyone had an opinion on. I said, Colin, we

624
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: may screw everything else up about this show, but you

625
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: will drag me out of here before you see me

626
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: talking about this stuff on air. This is a college

627
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: football show. People are getting hit every direct imaginable out

628
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: in the world, whether it be through podcast, TV, in

629
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: the workplace, on zoom meetings about what everyone else thinks

630
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: about COVID nineteen. I told column and I told the

631
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: management powers that be, we're not talking about it. We

632
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: will bring coaches on, we will interview them, but we're

633
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: not talking about it with them either. I'll ask them

634
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: how things are going, how are you adjusting. We are

635
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: not editorializing. We're not going to talk anything about our

636
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: opinion and even run the risk of politicizing this show.

637
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: So you may be listening and thinking to yourself, that

638
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: is the most basic concept in the world. A blind

639
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: monkey could figure that out, Sure could, which makes it

640
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: all the more spectacularly mind boggling that hardly anyone else did.

641
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: Everyone fell in the same trap. Everyone assumed that because

642
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: there was a mic in front of them, you must

643
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: be interested in my opinion on how the current administration

644
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: or a future administration would handle COVID. I don't care

645
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: what your opinion is on it. Therefore, I don't think

646
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: you care what my opinion was. And furthermore, even if

647
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: you did care. There are plenty other places you could

648
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: go for that. I realized we were doing the one

649
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: thing that may be keeping you sane. We used to

650
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: get emails by the hundreds every day of people saying

651
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: thank you for having one bit of normalcy that gets

652
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: left in my life. Everything else is turned upside down.

653
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: But I know I can come to that show that

654
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: you just started, and you guys are just going to

655
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: talk about college football. You don't even know if we're

656
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: gonna have a season this year, but you're just talking

657
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: about what I love. It's an escape. We heard that

658
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: so much, which kind of reinforced that we were doing

659
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: things the right way. But here's what happened, And here

660
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: here's the answer to the question. I believe in my

661
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: heart of hearts, our show would have succeeded. We got

662
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: too many good people here. People are too invested, and

663
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: you guys are too hungry for the content for it

664
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: not to have succeeded. But I don't know that it

665
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: would have skyrocketed like it did, cause our numbers just

666
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: they scaled so rapidly. It's the hockey stick effect and analytics,

667
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: and I know what it was because of It was

668
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: because the places that you had become accustomed to being

669
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: able to go to get your college football content, all

670
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden started to deliver deliver things to you

671
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: that you didn't want, and you didn't lose your appetite.

672
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: It's just the meal wasn't as good anymore where you

673
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: had been going, and so you started to look. And

674
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: it is the benefit of working at a place like

675
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven CBS, to where our platform is

676
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: big enough, to where they got our show in front

677
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: of you, and here we are, so you could talk

678
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: about whether so and so would have won a title,

679
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: whether so and so would still have his job, or

680
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: whether someone so wouldn't have his job. I want I

681
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: wonder it's baseless speculation, but I wonder whether our show

682
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: would be as successful, which is which is so counterintuitive

683
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: because you think of that time period as a terrible time.

684
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: I lost family members. I'm no different than the rest

685
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: of you. It was a really, really difficult time. I

686
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: know some of your small business owners who still have

687
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: not come back from it. I've got that in my

688
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: family as well, so I know the real world implications.

689
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: And yet we sit here and it's almost humbling, and

690
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: it almost makes you ashamed to admit such things. But

691
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: we enjoyed, We enjoyed overwhelming success professionally during that time.

692
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: Why I don't brag about it at all. Trust me,

693
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm very thankful for it because you're the reason for it.

694
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: And it's not lost on me that a lot of

695
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: you going through the worst times in your lives contributed

696
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: to one of the best times in ours with your

697
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: viewership and your listenership. So anything that we did to

698
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: even remotely help you, guys maintain some sense of normalcy,

699
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: you've returned to us one hundredfold. And so I put

700
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: out those think you alerts all the time. But that's

701
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: where the think you alert was generated, in realizing what

702
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: was happening. Colin and I used talk about it all

703
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: the time. We realized what was happening in real time,

704
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: and it was incredible. Then it's still incredible. Now, all right,

705
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: let's roll it on an infectious disease expert, I am not,

706
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: So we'll roll it back on and we'll talk about

707
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: college football. Where were we gonna go after that home

708
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: college football playoff games? I think was where we were

709
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: going next? Yeah, home playoff games. So one of you

710
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: hit us up, Steelers Nation actually hit us and said,

711
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: can you talk a little bit about what you expect

712
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: the scene to look like at home playoff games in

713
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: the future. I think it'll be one of the very

714
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: few good things to come out of expansion from Lancaster, PA.

715
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: I agree with the sentiment at the end, So I'm

716
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: going to do you a favor, those of you who

717
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: are pro expansion. I'm not putting you through it today.

718
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: We'll save it for another day. So we're just gonna

719
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: we're going to ignore my seventeen objections to college football

720
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: playff expansion. We're gonna put it over to the side,

721
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: out of sight, out of mind. You're right. Once I've

722
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: removed all of the detractive arguments, I could make home

723
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: playoff games be incredible. Home playoff games will be just phenomenal.

724
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: Every home, every home college football game is great. So

725
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: imagine putting postseason implications on them. It's like, you know,

726
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 1: it's like being able to see what you always fantasized

727
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: about or speculated about, but you never thought it was

728
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: going to be a reality. Some of you, even in

729
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: the expansionists side of the camp, thought that if we

730
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: got expansion, it wouldn't coincide with having home playoff games. Now,

731
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: if I were you guys, and I am in this,

732
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: in this venture, I'm mad we don't get more of them.

733
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: But it is what it is. You know. They toss

734
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: you the crumbs, eat up, gobble up anything you can,

735
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: and be thankful they gave it to you, even though

736
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: it is you that empowers them, not the other way around.

737
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: But I don't want to go down. I don't want

738
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: to go on that tangent again. So the home playoff

739
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: game spectacle will be phenomenal. I've never suggested otherwise. In fact,

740
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: I've never said the playoff itself won't be really interesting.

741
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: I've just kind of poop pooed what it takes to

742
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: get it. But home playoff games. Yeah. And then also,

743
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: here's what we'll finally get. We may get that thing

744
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: that I've always been told should happen but doesn't happen,

745
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: and that is Southern teams going up north to play

746
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: football games late in the year. I have it on

747
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: good authority from my friends in Madison and my friends

748
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: in State College and ann Arbor and everywhere in between. Lincoln, Nebraska,

749
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna get in this playoff action. I have it

750
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: on good authority that if a team from Tuscaloosa or

751
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: Austin or Gainesville ever had to go up there and

752
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: the temportal was below forty degrees, dead be screwed. And

753
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: I don't know how true or false it is. I'm

754
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: not suggesting that I have seen the future, and I

755
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: know it's going to be irrelevant. Quite the opposite. I

756
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: would imagine Georgia would have a difficult go of things

757
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: in Madison, Wisconsin in December. I'm just saying Wisconsin would

758
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: have a tough time, a little tough go of it,

759
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: just because George is lined up on the other side,

760
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: regardless of what temperature is outside. So anyway, I think

761
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: all that will play itself out. We don't really have

762
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: to speculate too much on that, but I will say,

763
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: remember the calendar. Just remember the calendar. And I don't

764
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a problem for everyone, but

765
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: I do think it's gonna be a problem for someone.

766
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: And but I remember the calendar. I mean, they're gonna

767
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: have those games, correcting me if I'm wrong. They're gonna

768
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: have those games around when your Christmas break would be,

769
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: so some of you are gonna have to suck it up.

770
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: You got a home playoff game, you can't go home

771
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: for Christmas at the same time you were gonna go

772
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: home for Christmas. Now, I'm sure knowing you guys like

773
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: I do, we got a massive college audience. I know,

774
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: if if your program's making the playoff, enough of you

775
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: are sticking around campus. If the reason you're sticking around

776
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: is I got to attend our home playoff game at

777
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: least early on, several years into the playoff. Hopefully that's

778
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: still the case, and hopefully they've given us more home

779
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: playoff games several years into the playoff. But yeah, I

780
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: look forward to that, that particular aspect I look forward to.

781
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: I've been anti expansion, but I've never told you that

782
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: I hate everything about expansion, So there you go. I'm

783
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: just it's really interesting when we talk about what is

784
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: and isn't predictable, Like I don't know how Southern teams

785
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: would prepare and then play in the North. You don't

786
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: even know in those cities what the forecast is going

787
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: to be and what the weather's going to be a

788
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: week ahead of time, much less years ahead of time.

789
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: It's hard to see coming just like this. You've never

790
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: felt anyone hit their stride like I have hit my

791
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: stride in the ambush ad toss. Jesse gave me a

792
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: nine point three. Jesse always sandbags on my one to

793
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: ten scale rating of unpredictability, so a nine point three

794
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: is about the highest I've ever gotten. There's no way

795
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: you knew that was coming. Let us roll on, Jack

796
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: from Birmingham. Jack sparking up the wrong tree, he said,

797
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: what does a normal week of cardio look like for

798
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: you when you're not traveling? I detest cardio. It is

799
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: cardio for me. But I had an awakening back in

800
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: the day. I was at Max Fitness on Tower Road

801
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: in Columbus, Georgia, ignoring the elliptical machines as I am

802
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: wont to do, and then a guy came in with

803
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: a prosthetic leg, wounded warrior, and he took the prosthetic

804
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: leg off and proceeded to do cardio with one leg.

805
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: I've never felt worse about myself in my life. I

806
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: think I've told this story before, and ever since then,

807
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: I've done cardio because the Good Lord has blessed me

808
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: with a fully functioning body, and it is pathetic if

809
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: you don't use it, and so I do cardio I

810
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: do not love treadmills at all. I have self diagnosed

811
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: myself with small lungs, so that means I cannot long

812
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: distance run like some of you can. What I do

813
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: love to do is like the hit stuff, the high

814
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: intensity interval training. Love to run hills, which most people detest.

815
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: It was never punishment for me in football and baseball.

816
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: I love running hills, big glutes, big paychecks. As me

817
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: Mal would say, so I love running hills, love biking,

818
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: although I don't currently own one, so I need to

819
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: change that. And I also think one of the biggest

820
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: hidden factors is you have to work tempo into your

821
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: actual lifting routine. You can get cardio work in while

822
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: you're lifting if you'll leave your phone in the locker

823
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: and don't get preoccupied with refreshing a social feed between

824
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: every set, work in super sets, work in tempo. Understand

825
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: how long there is between the time that bar hits

826
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: the rack to the time you break it off the

827
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: rack again, because you'll find you may find yourself breathing

828
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: a pretty hard if you're doing that the right way.

829
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: That is my take on cardio. Hopefully, hopefully it delivered

830
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: the way you wanted it to. Next up back on

831
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: the field we go, and we've got to go to

832
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: a place I already mentioned a little while ago, all things,

833
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: Indy said, late kick faithful, here thoughts on the state

834
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame football. You had the Drod Parker internal hire.

835
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: Matt Luke turns down the O line job. It's not

836
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: the only job Matt Luke's turned down. I just don't

837
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: think he wants to get back in it right now.

838
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: So that's not a shot at Notre Dame. Also, he said,

839
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: future as an independent with all the conference realignment, what's

840
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: going to happen. There's been some criticism as of late

841
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: with the way that Notre Dame as a whole, as

842
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: an entity hired the Andy Ludwig offensive coordinator, coaching search

843
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: being and eventually it turns out that the athletic director,

844
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: Jack Swerbick has to write you a letter. Yes, that happened.

845
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: He famously quoted Terence Mann, who is the character James

846
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: Earl Jones plays and Field of Dreams. And he told

847
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: you that he appreciates your passion. Misdirected though it may be,

848
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: it is still a passion. That's what he tried to

849
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: tell you. I laughed. You laughed. Everyone laughed, but Jack Swarburg.

850
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: He looked around and said, what was everyone laughing about?

851
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: Ivory Tower syndrome? So we still didn't really get to

852
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: the bottom of it. We still really don't know what

853
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: happened there. A lot of people think they know. So

854
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: this is once again where we apply that skill that

855
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: is so rare this day and age just say, I

856
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know, because Marcus Freeman has not

857
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: spoken his mind on that, and if he's a good soldier,

858
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: he probably realizes this is not a hill worth dying on.

859
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: I had to elevate my tight ends coach in a

860
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: search that we once upon a time called a national search,

861
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: which is usually an indication that that wasn't playing ABC

862
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: or D. But it be that, as it may, he

863
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: elevated who he elevated. There is a big debate that

864
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: happens all the time in Notre Dame circles, and it

865
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: sounds a little something like this. Notre Dame alumni think

866
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: that Notre Dame is a university with a football program

867
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: attached to it. Subway alumni, as they would call them.

868
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: I just saw this over on Irishfield stra the other day.

869
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: That's our twenty four to seven Notre Dame board Subway alumni.

870
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: In other words, those who didn't go to Notre Dame

871
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: but they root for Notre Dame. They would call Notre

872
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: Dame a football program with a university attached to it,

873
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: and then they clash, and then some alumni would say

874
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: that is a bastardization at best of how we feel,

875
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: and the Subway alumni would say, do you realize how

876
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: much money you make off of us? Everyone's right, and

877
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: so therefore I'm not hating on you. I'm just saying

878
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: when you tell me, which some of you do, that

879
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: you're not interested in being Alabama. I listen to you,

880
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: and I don't have a problem with it. You run

881
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: your program and university the way you want to run it.

882
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: I just come back when you get mad that there

883
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: are budgetary limitations. Marcus Freeman gets told no on something.

884
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: Nick Saban doesn't get told no one because there's no

885
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: one there to tell Nick Saban no, and you get

886
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: mad about it. I always look and I say, weren't

887
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: you the same person who told me you don't want

888
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: to be Alabama. See the argument would go something like this.

889
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: For the crowd that thinks Notre Dame is a university

890
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: with an athletic appendage attached to it. They would say,

891
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: we're not going to do it like the big boys

892
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: do down south. That way yet it'll be frustrating and aggravating,

893
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: and the winds will be fewer and further between. But

894
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: if we ever get one, it'll make it all the

895
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: more sweeter because we did it the right way, the

896
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: Notre Dame way. I don't say this mockingly. I'm going

897
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: to tell you for the third time thrice I've told

898
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: you you do things the way you want to do things.

899
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: I have full respect for it. But when we get

900
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: into these kinds of conversations, that's what I remember. So

901
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: should I expect Notre Dame to be as aggressive as

902
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: an LSU would have been there, or as an Oklahoma

903
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: would have been. I don't expect that. Until further notice,

904
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: I don't expect that. And as Bruce Hornsby would say,

905
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. I still think they

906
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: can win. I just think they have to thread the

907
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: needle a little bit more. I remember when we had

908
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly on the show last year or two years ago.

909
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: He was the head coach at Notre Dame at the time.

910
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: So those two years ago, he said candidly, I know,

911
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: going into a recruiting cycle, there are kids I don't

912
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: even waste my time on that. The Georgia's in Florida's

913
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 1: of the world are fighting to the nail against four.

914
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: That's a different set of circumstances. We've always known that,

915
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: but it just it stands to be reiterated in arguments

916
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: like this, So Notre Dame. Look, I think that they

917
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: finished the season really strong last year. I think the

918
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: world of Marcus Freeman as a person. I don't think

919
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: that I'm the best qualified to gauge whether he'll be

920
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: successful as a coach, only because I think there's a

921
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: lot outside of his control that will factor into that.

922
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: That's really what it boils down to. There are just

923
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: more external factors out of Marcus Freeman's control that are

924
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: going to determine his fate than maybe someone at one

925
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: of those programs down south. So if you can, if

926
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: that's palatable for you, go Irish. Next up, we had

927
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: a question about whether I had any train hopping stories

928
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 1: to give you. You wanted one, I'll give you one.

929
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: Statute of limitations has passed on this one for those unfamiliar,

930
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: I'd participate in these activities every now and then. I

931
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: don't smoke, I don't drink, I don't do drugs. I

932
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: walk the straight and narrow, okay, But if there are

933
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: some things that are illegal, then I do. And one

934
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: of them is I just hop a freight train every

935
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: now and then. It is what it is. Sue me,

936
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: don't sue me. That's the opposite of what we're trying

937
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: to do here. But once upon a time I had

938
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: never done this before, like ninety nine percent of you,

939
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: I had never hopped on a freight train. Then I did.

940
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: We had one of those classic Corey conundrums. We were

941
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: at a rock cory in Harris County, Georgia. Again I

942
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: have check statute of limitations on this, and we get

943
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: ourselves up on what is called a ballast car. And

944
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: ballast is just a fancy term for the rocks on

945
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: the side of the railroad tracks. Well, they got a

946
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: haul of those things out of rock quarries to your

947
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: local town to dump them on the side of the rails.

948
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: So every night up in Harris County, Georgia, they would

949
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: haul hundreds of cars full of ballast out of the

950
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: rock quarry and back down to Columbus and take it wherever.

951
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: Eventually they take that stuff. So it's nighttime. We hid

952
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: in a hidden Civil War cemetery. True story. They're just

953
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: all over the play. Revolutionary War cemeteries are all over

954
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: the place in the South, and they're out in the

955
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: middle of the woods. So we're hiding in one that's

956
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: about thirty yards from the rails. And we know when

957
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: they pull those cars out onto the main line, we

958
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: know the engine that pulls the cars out has to

959
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: detach itself and go all the way on a sidetrack

960
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: to the front of the train. So we got it

961
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: figured out. We're just gonna wait for those units, those

962
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: engines to go past. We'll climb up on top of

963
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: the rocks. We're set. We'll just ride that car into town.

964
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: We've already got our hopping off point figured out. We're

965
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: good problem friends. Once we got up on those cars

966
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: and the lead engines had passed, thought we were free

967
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: and clear. We're good to go. So we're up there chatting,

968
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: talking at the volume I'm talking right now because we're

969
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: way we're like fifty cars away from the engines. Know

970
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: anyone's gonna hear us, except if, for example, someone had

971
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 1: to be at the end of that train to switch

972
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: the tracks back, and then that someone had to walk

973
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: all the way to the front of the train. They

974
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: could hear you, couldn't you. Well, we didn't realize that

975
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: until it was too late. We didn't hear the crunch, crunch,

976
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: crunch on the rocks because we were too busy running

977
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 1: our mouths. But we saw that flashlight shine up there,

978
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 1: so we lay straight back on the rocks. We're staring

979
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 1: up at the sky. We have never been in trouble. Okay,

980
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: we are not kids who were in and out a juvie.

981
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: We cannot have this stuff happening to us. Also, we

982
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: were on the high school baseball team at the time,

983
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: so we lay backwards and I just expect to hear clank, clank, clank.

984
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: That guy's climbing the ladder and he's gonna come up

985
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: there and catch us. What I didn't realize is he

986
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: didn't know us either, So for all he knew we

987
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: were armed and dangerous, and he viewed it as not

988
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: in his best interest to climb that thing and find

989
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: out who was up there, So he shined his light

990
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: up there, never said anything. He shined his light up

991
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: there just to let us know that he knew, and

992
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: then he went on about his way. So we breathe

993
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: a sigh of relief, and we didn't realize that we

994
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: should have gotten off at the time they start that

995
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: train up. We ride it all the way into Columbus,

996
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 1: it stops, we get off at our hot point. They

997
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: have called the rail police and had him waiting for

998
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: us there, and so we dismount and as soon as

999
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: we hit the ground there they are about twenty cars

1000
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: up from us. There. They are standing there waiting on us.

1001
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: And so we did the only mature and responsible thing

1002
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: that kids with everything to lose could do. We ran

1003
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: and we got away. One of us shan't be named,

1004
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: tumbled down a hill. Well, but we got away. And

1005
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: ever since then, number one, I have retired from ballast

1006
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: hopping and I encourage you to do the same. And

1007
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: number two, I have really ratcheted up the protocol for

1008
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: when we put ourselves in those situations. So there's a

1009
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: story for you. I don't even think my parents know

1010
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: that story, but there's a story for you. All right,

1011
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: let's talk about football here. I appreciate you guys listening.

1012
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: By the way, if you haven't already, something like fifty

1013
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: percent of you still have not subscribed to the feed.

1014
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: And I'm begging you. Some people say they're not begging.

1015
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm begging you. I'm not too proud. I will beg you.

1016
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: Just follow, slash, subscribe, whatever vernacular you want to use.

1017
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: Just click that button. It's free. Nothing else happens to you,

1018
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: and you help us out a whole lot. I appreciate it,

1019
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 1: all right. So Tyler said, how much of an impact

1020
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: do you believe weather we'll have on a team's performance

1021
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: after realignment? For example, the LA schools playing in the

1022
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: snow more often from Tempe Arizona, it's gonna have an impact. Again,

1023
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: this is so rare. I don't think people realize how

1024
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: rare it is that big ten teams play in the snow.

1025
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy. I remember this game in this game

1026
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: and that game. I do too. I didn't say it

1027
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: never happens. I said it's rare. You got to understand meteorologically,

1028
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: the overlap with the minimum baseline requirements to get snow,

1029
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: and the college football season is only about a month long.

1030
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: It can only happen in November so you got like

1031
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: three weeks in some places maybe where you could get

1032
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: snow extreme outliers notwithstanding, and even then it has to

1033
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: line up. The game has to line up at exactly

1034
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: the time where it's snowing. And yeah, it happens every

1035
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: now and then, but it doesn't happen nearly as often

1036
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: as the more romanticized versions of Big ten football, when

1037
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: they're told would lead you to believe it does. So

1038
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: then you got to understand it's gonna be even more rare.

1039
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be even more a perfect case

1040
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: or worst case scenario for UCLA to be playing in

1041
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: let's say Iowa City against Iowa in late November, because

1042
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: what I don't know is how the travel situation is

1043
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: going to work out with the West Coast teams. I

1044
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: have no clue. I assume they'll be treated like everyone else,

1045
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know that. But here's the other thing

1046
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: I just want to remind you of. You want to

1047
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: be anecdotal with me, I'll be anecdotal with you. I've

1048
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: been to LA three times in the past year. The

1049
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: last time was for the National title game, and it

1050
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: poured down rain. They told me it never rained in

1051
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: Southern California. They lied to me. So of course it

1052
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: was cold and windy then. But the last two other

1053
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: times I went out there would have been UCLA USC

1054
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: which was late November. It was freezing in the Rose Bowl.

1055
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 1: Everyone was wearing a jacket. Oh it's nice, it's seventy

1056
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: degrees until the sun sets, So it was cold there

1057
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 1: that night. We were at Elite eleven in the middle

1058
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: of July, and I kid you not, the first and

1059
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: only time yours truly has gone to Lululemon was when

1060
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: I found myself ill prepared for how cold it gets

1061
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: next to the ocean in Los Angeles, Marine Layer and

1062
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: all even in July. So I've been freezing the last

1063
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Speaker 1: two times I went out there. So I know it's

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Speaker 1: not exactly freezing. I know it's not exactly winter precipitation.

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Speaker 1: But cold weather can happen more places than you think

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Speaker 1: it can happen. These folks aren't just playing an eighty

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Speaker 1: five degree weather every week. But if you were to

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Speaker 1: tell me, hey, Southern col Lincoln Riilly's offense this weekend

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Speaker 1: is going to have to go to state College. Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: High is going to be twenty eight three inches of

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Speaker 1: snow accumulating during the game. Yes, it's gonna have it's

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Speaker 1: gonna have an impact. Yes, I'm not gonna deny that.

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Speaker 1: Producer Jesse took it upon himself to look up the

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Speaker 1: average highs and lows on campuses in November. Average high

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Speaker 1: in LA seventy three. But what he wanted to point

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Speaker 1: out is if you look at the average low in

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Speaker 1: LA in November, it's fifty three, which is not too

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Speaker 1: dissimilar from what the average highs are in Madison, Minneapolis, Aimes,

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Speaker 1: East Lansing in November. You may think, oh, the average

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Speaker 1: temperatures are in the twenties. They're not. They're everywhere in

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. The coldest place in the Big Ten

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Speaker 1: is Minneapolis, Minnesota, where the average high in November is

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Speaker 1: forty four degrees. And take it from me, I'm an

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Speaker 1: aspiring weather man. So yeah, it's gonna happen. Someone's eventually

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Speaker 1: gonna find themselves in a situation where, I mean, Chip

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Speaker 1: Kelly's in Madison, Wisconsin and it's just snowing sideways. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're screwed that day, They're screwed. It is what it is.

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Speaker 1: If I look, if I were the Big Ten, I

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Speaker 1: would value my product, and I would want to help

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Speaker 1: the balance of setting that up versus being able to

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Speaker 1: see the Buckeyes play in LA the third week of November,

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Speaker 1: because those TV executives, yeah, they love the spectacle of snow,

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Speaker 1: but they know a more entertaining product is going to

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: be on the field the warmer it is. And I

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Speaker 1: hate to be the very bad news, but that is

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Speaker 1: the way those kind of folks think. I know because

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Speaker 1: I'm in meetings with them every week. I know how

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Speaker 1: they think. All right, last question here. I'm not supposed

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Speaker 1: to tell you it's the last question because the studies

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Speaker 1: show you tune out quicker when I say that. But

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Speaker 1: I know you better than they do. So last question

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Speaker 1: cheddar Bob hit us up and said, for those who

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Speaker 1: did not attend college and went the blue collar route,

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Speaker 1: do you have to attend a school to be considered

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Speaker 1: a true, diehard fan of that program from Palm Coast, Florida. No,

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Speaker 1: you have to have attended the school to be considered alumni.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I could not care less if you've never

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Speaker 1: set foot on campus a day in your life. There's

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Speaker 1: this haughty attitude that some who attended a university like

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Speaker 1: some of our Pate State alumni. They look at some

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00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: of our sidewalk alumni and they say, we're better than you.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, guys, the entire university is fictitious. You

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Speaker 1: are fictitious. You are make believe. Why are you making

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Speaker 1: fun of the other make believe folks. It's a problem.

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00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: It's a problem, and we're dealing with internally. But I

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Speaker 1: just asked this. Could you find me a program out

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Speaker 1: there that's got one hundred thousand seat stadium that was

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Speaker 1: funded by alumni. Could you find me a one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand seat stadium that's being filled by alumni every week?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't exist, and it's because this sport is not

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Speaker 1: built for alumni. It's built for a mass audience. And

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Speaker 1: so when I go to State College Pennsylvania, or I

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Speaker 1: go to Columbus, Ohio, or Athens, Georgia, or Eugene, Oregon,

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't have what we have if it weren't for

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Speaker 1: mass inclusion of fans of all walks of life. And

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Speaker 1: the other part is, look, I'm not here to tell

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Speaker 1: you whether or not to go to college. I dropped

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Speaker 1: out of college, went back and got my degree. So

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Speaker 1: I've lived every way imaginable. But I will tell you this,

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Speaker 1: there are some folks out there who are the most skilled,

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Speaker 1: talented people that you'll ever come across who don't towe

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Speaker 1: to college degree around. And there are some of the

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Speaker 1: most lost people in this society that you'll ever meet

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Speaker 1: that do tote one around. So it's not the end

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Speaker 1: all be all to have that piece of paper. Do

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Speaker 1: you have skills? I sit in job interviews here all

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Speaker 1: the time, and I'm telling you right now, it's great

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Speaker 1: that you got that college degree on that resume. We

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Speaker 1: don't ask you where you went to school. We ask

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Speaker 1: you what you can do. So you may have come

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Speaker 1: off the street corner if you can run all this

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Speaker 1: editing software and you're brilliant with social media, or you

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01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: could string together sentences in a way that makes an

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01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: audience lean in, couldn't care less where you went to school. Conversely,

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Speaker 1: if you came from the top JA school in the country,

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Speaker 1: but you can't think for yourself and you can't read

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01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 1: and react on your feet really quick, you're of no use.

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Speaker 1: That's a tangent, that's what we call that. It's a tangent.

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Speaker 1: They did teach me that in JA school, But no,

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you don't have to have attended

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Speaker 1: a school to be a diehard fan, because every game

1152
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: would feel like a lightly attended spring game, and that

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Speaker 1: would suck. It would absolutely suck. So thank you. Also,

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Speaker 1: it's not lost on our show wouldn't exist if the

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Speaker 1: only people who were allowed to care about this stuff

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Speaker 1: were alumni. That argument, it just always gets me for

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Speaker 1: some reason. All Right, we've got other things to do

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Speaker 1: around here. I know you've got other things to do.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys being here every week, and I

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Speaker 1: also appreciate that you continue to share the show. I

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Speaker 1: see the numbers. I know you're sharing it. I don't

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Speaker 1: even ask you to do it anymore, that's how effective

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Speaker 1: you have been doing it. So from all of us

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Speaker 1: to you, thank you for producer Jesse, for director Colin.

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Speaker 1: From myself, take care, have a great rest of your week.

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Speaker 1: Will be live from Indianapolis Thursday night, or so they

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Speaker 1: tell me. Until then, take care and God bless