1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hey, God, you want to go here, but wax with me. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: Let's do that. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: No, I'm not doing that for me. Some things I 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: want to do a lot. 5 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: More better, more, a little more better more. 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to More Better with Stephanie and Melissa, a podcast 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: where we stop pretending to have it all together and 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: embrace the journey of becoming a little more better every day, 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: or at least trying to. That's Mossa Mrrow and that's 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Stephanie Beatrice. Hey, welcome back, welcome back. 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 3: Hi. 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: How are you? 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: I'm good? 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: How are you friends? 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. I'm on like a lot of caffeine 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: right now. Maybe we have a caffeine problem. What do 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: you think you know? 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: No, I think it's a way of life, and we're 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: just part of the club alive. 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: It's a way alive, it is. It is a pretty 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: cool club to be a part of. I have a 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I have a lifelong membership. It's never gonna run out. 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: Same card carrying card carrying card carrying card carrying caffeine addict. 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what have you done lately? That's a little 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 1: bit more better. 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: Oh you know what I've been doing lately, Stephanie. Yeah, 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: I'm I'm just coming out of this crazy marathon of 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: working time and it's something small, but I'm just getting 29 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: back to like taking my supplements and my vitamins. 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: Oh my god, and. 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: Like, uh just starting there, you know, advice, because what 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: do you take? 33 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: Because I don't take jack shit I take. 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: I take a multi. I take Vitamin D, which is 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: really important. I take many. 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: Who's it? 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: What's it's a Vita D. I'd have to look and 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: I'd send it to you later. I take a few things, 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: and then I take like some womanly things and then 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: what I do do though, One tip is I got 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 2: one of those like weekly pilled dispensary things, you know, Yeah, 42 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: I have. 43 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: I have that for my anti anxiety and anti depression Bokay. 44 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: So I bought my supplements. 45 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: I bought. 46 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: I bought one for my vitamins, and then every Sunday 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: or whatever, I fill it up for the week so 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: that after dinner or whatever, or after lunch, like whenever, 49 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: whenever I remember, I usually try to do it after dinner. 50 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: I just have to pour it into my hand and 51 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: take it. Do you know what I mean? Because if 52 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm going through bottles, I'm never gonna fucking do it 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: like it has to be easy in a thing, like 54 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: you know, people get those like packs, those pre made packs, 55 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: Like I get it. So I kind of do like 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: a version of that because that helps me remember every day. 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: But I do feel a little better when I'm like 58 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: on it. And then I find that like it also 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 2: jump starts like other healthier habits, like you know, I 60 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: drink more while I drink my water, and like I'm 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: just trying to like drink the water, take the vitamins. 62 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: Like I'm just starting there. You know that's pretty good. 63 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: Have you been doing anything lately? It's a little more better. 64 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: I took the TikTok off my phone. I took the 65 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: TikTok off my phone. I know that's a big step 66 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: for me. 67 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: I love the TikTok. You love the TikTok? My god, 68 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: I love the TikTok. 69 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: I love the memes. I love the songs. I love 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: to see what's going on with people. I just I 71 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: love the funny dogs. 72 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: So what happened? You needed you needed a break? 73 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: I found that like I was spending a lot. I mean, listen, 74 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: it's really easy it Suddenly two hours has gone by 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: and you maybe didn't do anything but sit there and 76 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, follow a couple of links and watch a 77 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: bunch of dogs do funny stuff. And these dogs are funny, 78 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: but they are I'm not sure that I need to 79 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: spend two hours of my life every single night just 80 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: stuck in a rut on on my bed looking at TikTok. 81 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: So I took it off my phone. And can I 82 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: say I miss it? 83 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: Is it like a combo of like you feel better 84 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: but also you miss it or you just miss it. 85 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: I think what I feel is less. What I feel 86 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: is less like Zony because I think I was on 87 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: it so much that I was like zoning, which. 88 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: I think is the allure of it. 89 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: That the allure is the sort of like dopamine hit 90 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: of the new video and but then you just zone. 91 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: So I feel less Zony. But I really miss, you know, 92 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: seeing what's going on in lots of places in the 93 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: world that are important to be paying attention to. And 94 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: I miss my fashion videos and I miss you know, 95 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: like I miss you know, I just miss it. 96 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: I miss a TikTok. 97 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: I miss it, but it's better for me to not 98 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: be on it, So thanks, I guess. 99 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: I feel like you're holding a boundary with yourself? Is 100 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: that what they call it? 101 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: That is I don't know, yes, oh God, holding a 102 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: boundary with myself? 103 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: Barf. 104 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: More better. 105 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we talk about stuff that 106 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: we're interested in, and we're interested in trying to be 107 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: better people. 108 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: Kind of. 109 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: One of the things we wanted to talk about was 110 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: how to get more better at making friends as an adult. 111 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: So you know, what does that mean exactly? 112 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: Well, I would Webster's Dictionary defines adult as gross. I 113 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: think adult is like, you know, anybody that's not in 114 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: an environment in which they're like thrown together with people 115 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: at the same age. So like, if you're still in 116 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: high school, this isn't a combo for. 117 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: You, or maybe maybe because listen, yes, listen, you might 118 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: think of it ten years from now. 119 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's more like when you are grown up 120 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: and you've entered, you know, a job market where you're 121 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: thrown in with people that you might not necessarily they 122 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: might not be your people, but you want to find 123 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: your people. 124 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: How do you find your people? Yeah? 125 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: And how do you meet new people as opposed to 126 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, I have friends that I've been friends with 127 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: since I was seventeen eighteen nineteen but I also have 128 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: new friends and how to make those new friends, and 129 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: how do you know whether or not those new friendships 130 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: are going to pan. 131 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: Out for you? You know. 132 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's kind of what we wanted to talk 133 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: about today. 134 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: Because it's really hard, guys, It's so hard. I literally 135 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: just felt myself getting stressed out as I was listening 136 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: to you talk thinking about how horrible it is to 137 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: try to make friends as an adult. Oh my god, 138 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: cause it's just different. It's really different. I feel like 139 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: when you're younger at least, this was my experience. Most 140 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: of my closest friends that I'm still friends with today, 141 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: it was like this instant kind of thing, you know, 142 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: like a burst of just like oh my god, I 143 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: love you or you're hilarious, and we're like instantly connecting, 144 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: and like I think we're going to be best friends, 145 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: and then you just like become best friends. Like it 146 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: just felt like when that would happen, and you like, 147 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: I feel like I found, especially in college, like my 148 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: close group of friends, and like a few people got 149 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: added into it sort of very organically and naturally in 150 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: my twenties, and then that was like the last time 151 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: that happened, and like every experience since has been like agonizing, 152 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: just like do they like me? Are we becoming friends? 153 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 154 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, overthinking it or yeah, it just I 155 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: don't know. And you work and you get busy, or 156 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: you move to a different city. That's a big one. 157 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: What was making friends like when you were younger, Like 158 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: when you met those friends, those close friends. 159 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: At like eighteen, I mean, well, a lot of it 160 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: was being thrown into a new environment. Like when I 161 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: think about high school, I have a couple I have 162 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: one really good friend that I'm still friends with from 163 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: high school. 164 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: We rarely talk about. 165 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: When we do, it's like like it was then, Yeah, 166 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: but that was my high school boyfriend, and so like 167 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: it was this new of like hormones and like, and 168 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: we were experiencing that together. And then the next group, 169 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: like the next person that I can think of that 170 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: I was I'm still friends with was college because it 171 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: was like new thing and we're experiencing this new thing 172 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: together and we're having all these like similar experiences at 173 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: the same time. I've never been away from home and 174 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, we're tricky beer for the first time and 175 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: all this stuff. It's like new, new, new, new, new together. 176 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: And then when you're older, it's like whoa, what is 177 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: the what is the sort of common denominator for friendships? 178 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: And it's really tricky. And then you know, moving I 179 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: moved to New York when I was twenty something, and like, 180 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be like sex in the city. 181 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna have, you know, my three 182 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: great girlfriends, just gonna have brunch every Sunday and talk 183 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: a bunch. And it wasn't like that. 184 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: You know. 185 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: I moved in with some girls that I knew from college, 186 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: and it was a it was a nightmare shit show. 187 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: Like we didn't we weren't. We didn't click, we didn't clock. 188 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: So it was hard. It was really hard. Sometimes you 189 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: just feel the click immediately. I think that happens a 190 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: lot when you're younger, and then sometimes it takes a 191 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: while to make the click happen. So you go, Okay, 192 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: maybe I can look past this weird thing, or maybe 193 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: I can you know, get behind maybe she didn't mean 194 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: it like that. And then other times you're like, oh 195 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: my god. You turn around and go, I've invested a 196 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: year in this and I don't know if I really 197 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: love this person. It's tricky it's tricky, tricky, tricky, you know. 198 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean I think when we first met each other, 199 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: I feel like it was a little bit similar to 200 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: that college experience, which is like we were doing this 201 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: new thing together. 202 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: Yes, like you were saying, it was, yeah, we were 203 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: immersed in this new thing. We were both at the time. 204 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 2: I'm like, what the first network show to have to 205 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: latinas in the main cast. 206 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: If you don't know, we were on a show called 207 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: Brooklyn n where it was pretty good. 208 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, first four seasons. What we're talking about. 209 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: This isn't this is not this is not no and 210 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: I and I, Yeah, I think that we were kind 211 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: of clinging to each other because we were both afraid 212 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: we were going to get fired. And we also it 213 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: was both of our first series regulars, right it was 214 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: for your first Yeah, so there was yeah, like first 215 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: time newness, like and there was a little bit of 216 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: like Joe and Andy already knew each other and Chelsea 217 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: and Andy already knew each other. So not like feeling 218 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: outsidery because everybody was so warm and welcoming, but a 219 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: little bit of like, yeah, oh, people have connections and 220 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: know each other because all of these people have been 221 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: like working for so long, established everybody was like everybody's 222 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: dabblished established writers felt yes, and we were like, what's up, 223 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: what's this. 224 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you guys made a mistake casting movie, 225 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to say anything. 226 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, Like I remember feeling pretty quickly that I 227 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I feel like I can trust to Stephanie. 228 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: I feel like close to you or just familiar. And 229 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if that was like the cultural thing 230 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: or you know, because sometimes that happens you meet other 231 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: letinos and you're like, oh, we get it, you get it, yeah, 232 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: or yeah, just that we had, you know, we had 233 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: things in our background that were similar and a lot 234 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: of things in common, I think, and but we're also 235 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: very different. Yeah, and yeah, I don't remember it never 236 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: there didn't feel like a dating phase, whereas I felt 237 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: like there was a little bit of like a dating thing. 238 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: Like I remember I was a big fan of Joelatrulio's 239 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: when like, I was so psyched that he got cast, 240 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: and then there was like I just wanted him to 241 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: like me, and so there was that period of just 242 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: like getting to know each other and think me lucky. 243 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: For you, he likes almost everyone. 244 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: Does, but I didn't know that at the time. 245 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: And then he is a very friendly guy, but he 246 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: doesn't like you. 247 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: Whoa maybe look inward but yeah he yeah. And I remember, 248 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: you know, like becoming friends with Joe. I remember becoming 249 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: friends with you. 250 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: It didn't feel like with you, I had any There 251 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: wasn't any like walls to break down. Yeah, and it 252 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: didn't feel like you were to me. What I really 253 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: think about now is, at least in friendships, I look 254 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: for honesty. I look for people that are honest, funny. 255 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: I like funny, you know, and you seem to be 256 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: both of those things. You weren't like, oh, yeah, you know, 257 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. You were like like I was, 258 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: and it felt very like, oh okay, Well, she's being 259 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: real with her experience. You know, she still has had 260 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: more experience on camera than me, but she's being real 261 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: about that. This is also nerve wracking for her. So 262 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: I can get behind that. I can get behind this honesty. 263 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: And also I don't I don't see that in anybody 264 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: else around here, So I'm gonna yeah, and they did 265 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: they sure as how them? I mean fucking yeah. 266 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even remember what was like the first 267 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: time we hung out outside of work or I feel 268 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 2: like it just happened, yeah. 269 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 1: Which is like also like we were very lucky in 270 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: that we had this again, this work situation where we 271 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: were there for hours and hours all the time, and 272 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, we were thrust into a situation in which 273 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: we got to spend time together and it just so 274 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: happened that we were we liked each other. 275 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And our job is sort of weirdly convenient in 276 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 2: that way, especially when you're on something like Brooklyn where 277 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 2: it went so long. And you know, we we did 278 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: trips together, like for work. I mean we did one 279 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: fun trip we all went to Paris what was that 280 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: second season, which was so fun. But we also like 281 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: we did work trips together, like you know, you and 282 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: me did panels in Austin and we went to Montreal 283 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: for the Comedy Festival, and like you know, so then 284 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: there's like dinners out and like fun things that like 285 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: doesn't always happen I think with some other careers. And 286 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: so there was like all this like bonding time and 287 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: friendship time, and I think that's kind of where we 288 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: all sort of went from like just colleagues to real friends. 289 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: Real friendships. Yeah, And I have to tell you, like 290 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: I realized because I moved to LA like a year 291 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: before I booked Brooklyn, and I was already I turned 292 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: thirty after I moved to LA, so I spent all 293 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: of my twenties in New York and I grew up 294 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: right outside New York, so it was like really starting over. 295 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: And it wasn't until Brooklyn ended that I realized that 296 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: the whole time I was on Brooklyn, I sort of 297 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: took for granted and also took advantage of the fact 298 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: that like we were all such good friends and we 299 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: spent so much time together. I didn't I realized then 300 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: it was over and everybody like not that we went. 301 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: We you know, we're all still close, but like we're 302 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: all busy, Like everybody doesn't teach, you know, kind of 303 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: goes there's something, you know, like shooting out of town 304 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: and dah da dah whatever. And I realized like there 305 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: was a little bit of like a lonely period where 306 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I have not been like giving 307 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: time and effort to like what is my community in LA, 308 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: because I just, you know, like what are my friends? 309 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: And like realizing that certain friendships I should like put 310 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: more time and energy into because I just kind of 311 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: was like coasting for a long time with Like. 312 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: I totally I can totally empathize with that. 313 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: I know what you mean. 314 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, not like I know what you mean, Like, yeah, 315 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: you really messed up, Like I know. 316 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: What you mean. But like it was like air transition 317 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: where it was like oh, and then it was like 318 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: getting into making friends as an adult, which is really 319 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: fucking weird. It's like a weird dating thing and it's 320 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: like so weird. 321 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: It is, like I mean because that's the thing, right, 322 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: Like it takes a long time to make friends. It 323 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: takes hours and hours of time put in around the person. 324 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: And like if you're busy, if you're a parent, if 325 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: you have a family, even if you're like a single 326 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: person and you work a lot, or you just you know. 327 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: You don't have a lot of time, like or you've 328 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: been burned in the past by friends and you're like, 329 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: I'm one, I'm in right, that's for me. I was like, oh, 330 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to go go through it all again. 331 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to go through it all again. It 332 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: really is like it's like dating where you're just like 333 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: you have to take that leap and you're kind of 334 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 2: nervous that like it'll blow up again because you went 335 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: through that in the past and it sucks. God, it's 336 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: so hard. 337 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: More more, I read this thing about making friendships. It 338 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: was this is sorry nerd time, let's get into it. 339 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: Nerd time. No, no, no, nerd time, nerd time. 340 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: It was a study out of the University of Kansas, 341 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 1: and it was about like how long it was an 342 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: average on all these people that were like they did 343 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: these questionnaires and some of it was people that had 344 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: moved to a new It was like a two bar study. 345 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: Some of it was people that had moved to a 346 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: new town. 347 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: It was like about how many new friendships that made 348 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: since moving and you know, like moving. 349 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: Is hard, as you know, you're just talking about it. 350 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: And then another one was like people in school, college age, 351 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: so like another new thing, a move or like a 352 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: beginning of a new moment. And on average to count 353 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: someone as like a good friend, it's between fifty and 354 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: one hundred hours spent. 355 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: I know. That's so depressing, isn't it. 356 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: It's so much time, so much time, But like that's 357 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: so I say that only because like sometimes I'm like 358 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: why don't I have any friends? Why don't I have 359 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: any friends? I have four friends, And I'm like, oh, 360 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: because these are the four people that I've actually spent 361 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: this much time with, Yeah, that I trust and believe in, 362 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: you know, because like what I used to do was 363 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: absolutely throw myself into friendships and try to be besties 364 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: with people prior to spending I think, not like you 365 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: have to spend fifty to one hundred hours. That's just 366 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: this one study that's only in Kansas, you guys, University 367 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: of Kid. 368 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: It's just kidding. 369 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: But I do think in the past, I was like, 370 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: for example, I was desperate to make new friends. When 371 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: I moved to La I was so isolated and alone, 372 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: and I joined a comedy dance troupe. And what I 373 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: really wanted and what I was really sold on was 374 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: the idea that all of these women were spending their 375 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: off time together and making up these really funny dances 376 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: and having this like female bonding time, and it was 377 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: just going to be like, woo woo, We're all going 378 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: to be besties. And like that's how I looked on Instagram. 379 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: You know, you can never never believe the Instagram lie. 380 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: But like I actually still do have a really good 381 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: friend who was in that dance troup with me. I 382 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: just went to our birthday party the other day. I 383 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: love her dearly. She's a fantastic friend who I trust, trust, trust, 384 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: But I have other friends from that dance troup that 385 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't know where they are. It didn't work out, 386 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: you know, it just didn't work out, and like, but ultimately, 387 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: I guess I can look back on it and be like, 388 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: that was It was hard because there were a lot 389 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: of it was drama, you guys, it was drama without 390 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: getting into it. But I do have one good friend 391 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: that I got out of that, and like, I don't 392 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: know that I would have ever met her. She's she 393 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: is a writer, but we just run in different kind 394 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: of circles. I'm like, I don't know that I would 395 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: have met her, but I really really like her. So 396 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: it was like taking that risk and putting myself out there. 397 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: We had to audition for that dance troop. 398 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: It was cool, but I remember, I remember, actually I 399 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: remember when you did that, and I remember thinking like, 400 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: oh my god, that's so cool and so. 401 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: Brave. 402 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: But like to say, when people say that so brave, 403 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: it was great, sore when you did that, you like 404 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 2: really put yourself out there. But I remember, uh, just 405 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: being really impressed with it, because I like, for me, 406 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: the challenge is I can be a little too close 407 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: off sometimes and like it's hard for me to let 408 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: people in sometimes, and I don't put myself out there 409 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: as much as I should. I think I'm trying to 410 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: be more better at that. But when I had Enzo, 411 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 2: I thought of you doing that dance troupe because I 412 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: was doing this. I did this like amazing prenatal yoga 413 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 2: class that was more of like a get ready for 414 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: birth kind of class, and I really loved it, and 415 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: I loved the teacher and she was. 416 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: Just like stretcher stretcher vulva. 417 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: You just you know what she would do. She would 418 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: make us do like wall squats and like breathe and 419 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 2: be like and like if you were closer to like 420 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: the end of your pregnancy, you would have to do 421 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: extra and it was like a practice, but it was 422 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 2: like it was great. It was a practice in staying 423 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: calm while doing something hard. 424 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because if you've ever done a wall sit, 425 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: you know it's absolut. 426 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: So her but her whole like coaching while you were doing. 427 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: It was like slow your breathing, like keep your mind calm, 428 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 2: like it was that kind of training. So I like 429 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: loved that anyway. And she did like a mommy and 430 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: Me class right after that, and I was scared to go, 431 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: but I knew I needed to like practice getting out 432 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: of the house by myself with the baby because my 433 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: husband was on a show in New York and I 434 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: knew I was gonna be doing a lot of that. 435 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: And then but then I remember thinking about you joining 436 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: that dance troupe and thinking like, maybe I'll make some 437 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: mom friends because I only have like a couple friends. 438 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 2: I had two close friends that it had yeah, like 439 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: two or three. I did have a few close friends 440 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 2: that had had kids around the same time. And but 441 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: I just felt like exactly where you are in that moment, 442 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: you know what I mean of, Like step By, I 443 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 2: was like me, I could use some more mom friends. 444 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: I ended up making like one of them is become 445 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 2: like one of my closest friends, and like there's a 446 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: couple other that I still like. I became really good 447 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: friends with a few of the women from that class, And. 448 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember you talking about this and being like, yeah, 449 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: this is some of my like core mom friends. 450 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, my little like mom group, baby, and yeah we 451 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: have dinner and like all our kids are the same age, 452 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: and so every time I feel crazy like what is 453 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: going on with him? And I check in with them 454 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: and they're like, oh yeah, same over here, Like it's 455 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: amazing and and it's sort of you know, and it 456 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: was like the same kind of experience where like it 457 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: was a big class, it was a lot of people. 458 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: We tried to do these like big get togethers, and 459 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: like it slowly got like smaller and smaller and like. 460 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: Little, you know what I mean, And then you sort 461 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: of just separate the wheat from the chest. 462 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, your week, right, Yeah this is a match. This 463 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: is not a match. Oh that you know, and you 464 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 2: know and now you know, Enzo just turned eight, so 465 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 2: eight years later, it's like it's come down to this 466 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: little core group. But it's great and you know, yeah, 467 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: we went to Hawaii with one of the moms, like 468 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: with that family. Oh my god, that's like how close 469 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: we become and our sons are dusties and it's great. 470 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: But like, honestly, that makes me feel like I need 471 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: to join some kind of like mom group or something, 472 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 1: because I don't have any friends. I mean you right, 473 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: but your kids are both older older than yours, and 474 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: I really don't have any Yeah, you don't have anybody 475 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: that's going through what I'm going through right now, which. 476 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 2: Is like, yeah, it's huge. I think when you start 477 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: over here, yeah, when you start like any type of 478 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: school or anything too, like that's I feel like that 479 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: was the next time that I was like, oh here. 480 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: If I was like, we don't believe in school, which 481 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: I don't believe in it, so we're not doing that. 482 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: Well, good luck. 483 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: No school at all, no. 484 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 2: Learning, nothing, no book, go to the same park at 485 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: the same time every day. 486 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: I do need some though, like I need some I 487 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: need some or I need like a new I need 488 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: like a new hobby or something. 489 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: I don't know. 490 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: This is you know what I need to do. Also, 491 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: I just need to like text people, because I have 492 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: met women who I think are really really cool and 493 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: then I get their numbers and then I don't. I'm like, 494 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if she wants to hear from me. 495 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: Maybe she just gave me her number out of pity, 496 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: you know. 497 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: Like part well, that's like the hardest thing I think 498 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: about making friends as an adult, because yeah, it's like 499 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 2: this weird like should I ask them to coffee? Like 500 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: shouldn't that? Do you think they want to go out 501 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: with me? And like it brings up all of those feelings. 502 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: But when I was saying about that like lonely period 503 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: I had after Brooklyn and it was a lot of 504 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: it was like what you're just saying, Like I was like, Oh, 505 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 2: I just have to like make more of an effort 506 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: to like call the people I like, you know, or 507 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: like these couple friends that I'm like, I think friends 508 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 2: with I think they like me, like just put myself 509 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: out there that we live close to each other. So yeah, 510 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: proximity is key and just like take that little leap 511 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: of faith and hope it works out. But it is 512 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: so nerve wracking just talking about it. Just like my 513 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: voice just keeps like pitching up. 514 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: That's why there's like shirts and hats that say no 515 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: new friends. 516 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 2: Because it's really hard. 517 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: It's so hard to make them. It feels very like 518 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll say this the the time. Investment is 519 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: one thing, right, but like setting that aside, it is 520 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: like the nervy feeling I think is something that as 521 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: we get as we get a little older, it's it's 522 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: hard to like, you know, you go, like, I have 523 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: my friends, I have the things that I like to do. 524 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to try anything new. I don't want 525 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable. And that's the part that's. 526 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 2: Hard more more Yeah, I also find what's hard too 527 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: is like getting to know so one Oh oh god, 528 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: worse right, It's like I wish I could just plug 529 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: my history and like my weird things and my quirks, 530 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: just like into your brain and be like, oh no, 531 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: do you like it? You think this will worship and. 532 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: Then yeah, like oh my god, not me being like 533 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: have you seen that TikTok? What am I talking about? 534 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: Like not, there's this TikTok that has this great sound, 535 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: and it's like how many brothers and sisters do you have? 536 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: What do you do for work? 537 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: Do you like? Be like that. 538 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: It's like it's so boring getting to know people because 539 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: we all ask the same dumb questions and we all 540 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's like, ah, the time investment 541 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: is I know I said I wasn't. It's a different thing, 542 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: but it's tricky. 543 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 2: It's really tricky. 544 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: Because to get myself out of the house, to get dressed, 545 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: to have a babysitter watching my kid, or my ask 546 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: my husband to do it, to drive somewhere to like boot. 547 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: But it's like bro, I don't bro, even though like 548 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: during the pandemic, honestly I would have killed Yeah, yeah, 549 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: I try to think about that sometimes. I try to think, 550 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: like during the pandemic, would you have paid to have 551 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: been able to sit with you? 552 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And like probably yes, yeah, 553 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: well I so I also have an interesting article that 554 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: I read. It was in teen Vote Friendship Coach recommends 555 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: these tips to make friends. Are you ready? 556 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm gonna vote. I'm going to vote 557 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten whether or not I 558 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: think these are good. 559 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: I love it. 560 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: Let's do it. You can also vote as you listen. 561 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: Here we go show up a friend people who share 562 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: your hobbies, like the gym, pottery, class, et cetera. 563 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: So like, maybe, for first of all, I'm not making 564 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: friends at the gym. Yoga pilates maybe, but the gym. 565 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to talk to anybody at the gym. 566 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: He wants to wants to stop having homer stations at 567 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: the gym. Can we just like all collectively as society 568 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: agree to that. 569 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,239 Speaker 1: I feel like Pilatates is different because like you just 570 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: did the thing altogether. 571 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: Because there was a little tang and the lobby. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 572 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay, well yeah, 573 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: all right, okay, next second one, take risks, let people 574 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: know that you like them and make plans. That's a 575 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: big guy. I hear, yes, and good. 576 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: I will give this one a seven, because no, I 577 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: will take it up too. On eight because our mutual 578 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: friend Lauren Ash I met her at an event and 579 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: I had been looking at her Instagram and I was like, 580 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: I know I have things in common. 581 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: She likes Disney. I like Disney. 582 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: She likes comedy. I like comedy. So I went up 583 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: to her at the event and I was like, hey, 584 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: I think you're so cool. I have been following you. 585 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: I know you love Disney. I would love to go 586 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 1: to Disney with you sometimes. Like I straight up told her. 587 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: I was like I think you're cool. Yeah, and she 588 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, thank you. 589 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: And I was like, I did too much. I did 590 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: too much. 591 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: And then we had a couple drinks and I was great, 592 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: and now we're friends. Now we're like real friends, you're 593 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: like really, yeah. 594 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: That's a big one because it is so nerve wracking 595 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: to be like, hey, I like you, let's like get 596 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: get lunch or let's hang out, like even just saying that, 597 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: like can we hang out? 598 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: I do feel like you need to give space yeah, 599 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: between the like you know, or like we should get 600 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: dinner sometime, not. 601 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: Be as thirsty as I just was. Well, but then 602 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: you know what I worry about is like people say 603 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: that all the time. 604 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: And no, no, no, I think, like tag on this sometime. Yeah, 605 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: but then I feel like I get to follow up 606 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: with the text. You have to follow up, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 607 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: you have to follow up. Okay, So okay, we like 608 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: that one. Okay, we like that one. 609 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: Tell your circle you're looking for new friends, meet your 610 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: friend's friends. That's a good one. 611 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 4: That I've never really good right, what I didn't I've 612 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 4: never thought to say, like to you, for example, like 613 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 4: I'm actually looking for new friends. 614 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: If you have people that you think that I would like, 615 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: I'd love to like do a three three. 616 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: Hang and see if we hit it off. 617 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's kind of safe because then you have 618 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: a mutual in common. 619 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: Yes, and I've actually like, yeah, I've even been thinking 620 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: lately too of like we should combine some like you know, sometimes, 621 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: especially in LA because it's such a driving city, you 622 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: sort of have I feel like I very like separate 623 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: groups of friends and trying to like orchestrate like more 624 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: group hangs with people I think would get along because 625 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 2: I want that like group kind of community thing that 626 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: we had in New York, and I just think is good, 627 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: especially when you have kids and stuff, you know, Like 628 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 2: I like a group hang. I like like community. 629 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: I like that. I like, tell your this is good. 630 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: This gets an eight? 631 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 632 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: Me, well let's give it a seven because we haven't 633 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: tried it yet. 634 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: That's true. Might Yeah, what's the next one? Okay? And 635 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: the last one is invite people to things you usually 636 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: do alone. 637 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: Like getting your biki. Hey, you want to go here, 638 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: but wax with me? 639 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: No, that's not for me. 640 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: Some things I want to do alone, like I want 641 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: to get my manicure alone because well honestly, because I 642 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: want to talk to my manicurist, who I would say 643 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: is a friend. Yeah, gnails in Highland Park, Go, she's amazing, loope, ip. 644 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: I really like to hike alone, but I do enjoy 645 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: a hike with someone else, and I should ask somebody 646 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: to hike with me more often. 647 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: Not me, girl, No, hike is not for me, that's 648 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: not it's not no, I would go. I would go 649 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: on a hike with you. I think it would be nice. 650 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: Or we could just do like walk, Yeah, I could do. 651 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: That's at my level. I love a walk, you know, 652 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: I love a walk. 653 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 3: Better. 654 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: Okay, let's discuss and digest. I feel like one thing 655 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: that I came away with from today was I should tell. 656 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: My friends that I'm looking for new friends. And I'm glad. 657 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm also I mean, I know. 658 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: We've talked about this a little bit before, but I 659 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: am glad to hear that it's as hard for me 660 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: as it is for you. 661 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 662 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 1: You strike me as somebody that's like so friendly and 663 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: so outgoing. So it's like very calming to me to 664 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: hear that you are, like it's hard, thanks, friend. 665 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I think that that's what I'm 666 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: digesting as well, is like this comfort and that like 667 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: it's fucking awkward and hard I think for everyone. And yeah, 668 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: I think I like initially like I'm okay kind of 669 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: getting along with people. It's like taking it to that 670 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: next step of like friendship, right where it's like you're revealing. 671 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: Why did I like next step like the French kiss 672 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: kids with your friends, because until you feel their tongue, 673 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: how do you know they're going to be a good friend? 674 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: How do you know? 675 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: That's how I make friends? Obviously? Obviously do you feel Melissa, 676 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: do you feel a little more better? 677 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: Uh? 678 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna say like half sie'es on this 679 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: one because just talking about it game anxiety. Do you 680 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: feel more better? I? 681 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 1: I do. Actually, I'm kind of excited by the tell 682 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: your friends you're looking for friends, because yeah, I don't know, 683 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: it's set me up with some of your cool friends. 684 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I could even if I do that 685 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: with one person, I might meet one more person that 686 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: I like, which is totally kind of exciting. Anyway, I'm 687 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: glad we're friends. I am so glad that we're friends. 688 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. 689 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And to whoever's listening to this, you know, maybe 690 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: put yourself out there or don't. 691 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know, Oh maybe one day we'll 692 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: have a little pod party and you can come and 693 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: we can all meet in person and be friends friends. 694 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: How cute? I love it. Okay, all right? 695 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: Cool? So if if you're also you know, living your 696 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: life trying to be more better, we appreciate you listening 697 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: to us talk about. 698 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: It for a little while, and we'll see you next 699 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: week from More Shit Talking, See yahye. 700 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: Do you have something you'd like to be more better 701 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: at that you want us to talk about in a 702 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: future episode? 703 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 2: Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried 704 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: one of our tips and tricks? 705 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: Shoot us your thoughts and ideas at Morebetter pod at 706 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: gmail dot com and include a voice note if you 707 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: want to be featured on the pod. 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