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Speaker 1: Lauren is on the phone today for our first day
Speaker 1: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Sammy.
Speaker 1: So in a few minutes we'll call him and Seefa
Speaker 1: tells why is ghosting her and maybe get her another date.
Speaker 1: But first, Lauren, how long has it been since you
Speaker 1: heard from Sammy?
Speaker 2: Oh it's been like a week or two.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Have you reached out to him in that time?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I definitely have, although I don't think he
Speaker 2: knows that I have. I'll probably have to explain that
Speaker 2: to you a little bit a weird situation, okay, but
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying. It's that the date was
Speaker 2: actually like amazing, and it's so rare that I meet
Speaker 2: anyone's letters, you know, IRL or online where it's like
Speaker 2: especially online to say, because you know, we'll text and
Speaker 2: like I think that there could be a possibility of
Speaker 2: that going somewhere, and then like, I don't know, we
Speaker 2: meet up and it's just not what I expected. But
Speaker 2: in this case, the text chemistry absolutely translated to real life.
Speaker 2: We spent like several hours together wasn't just at one spot.
Speaker 2: We were like kind of hopping all around one venue
Speaker 2: to the next, and believe it or not, even I
Speaker 2: got to know some of his friends and they came
Speaker 2: awesome as well, And the night ended up at his place,
Speaker 2: which I don't expect. But yeah, I know, you know
Speaker 2: talk in the radio, so something happened at our you know,
Speaker 2: PG thirteen rated R. So I stayed the night there
Speaker 2: and then we decided to meet up for state number two,
Speaker 2: which was just casual but so much fun, like downtown
Speaker 2: after work, you know, not my neighborhood where I live,
Speaker 2: but it was just a great time.
Speaker 3: Did you go back with him after date number two? Too?
Speaker 2: Well? I texted him and just got no response, like
Speaker 2: I didn't know where he was, so sitting there like what.
Speaker 2: And then after fifteen minutes I did something like I
Speaker 2: never want to do, like the phone call like hey,
Speaker 2: where are you? That sort of thing awkward.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait wait, I'm sorry he disappeared in the
Speaker 3: middle of your date.
Speaker 2: No, I got there and he was nowhere to be found.
Speaker 3: Oh got it?
Speaker 2: Yeah again, I really think I like this guy. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, normally, after fifteen minutes, I would just leave, like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you're not going to waste my time. I don't even
Speaker 2: know you, but I'm like, let me give the chance
Speaker 2: that you never know, like what could have happened? Right,
Speaker 2: So I call and I miss that My calls are
Speaker 2: doing like the same thing every single time. It would
Speaker 2: like ring twice and then go straight to voicemail. I
Speaker 2: talked this up to like okay, he's in a bad
Speaker 2: service area, that sort of thing, but it happened, I
Speaker 2: want to say, like four times in a row. So
Speaker 2: at that point I just was like, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go ahead and google, like how do I know if
Speaker 2: someone's blocked me? Because I never could understand the answer
Speaker 2: to this. But it's actually turns out it's really easy
Speaker 2: to do that. Apparently, like you could just make your
Speaker 2: number anonymous. Yeah, to block people can just.
Speaker 1: To find out if you're locked or to be blocked,
Speaker 1: to be blocked.
Speaker 2: Okay, Like this was a lesson for me because like
Speaker 2: apparently it's like if it brings more than twice before
Speaker 2: the voicemail, that means you're blocked?
Speaker 3: It does or does that mean you're getting sent to voicemail?
Speaker 2: It's blocked?
Speaker 3: So I mean, okay, either it's not okay.
Speaker 2: So I was like, all right, well, I wow, this
Speaker 2: sucks right, And I just went back to my car
Speaker 2: and I was sulking there, like I couldn't even building
Speaker 2: myself to drive home. I was still bummed out.
Speaker 3: Oh that's really a number. I would be frustrated about that,
Speaker 3: especially if you think the date went so well that's yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Just want to know why.
Speaker 3: Also, you're like, well, did you do something though, Like
Speaker 3: if you think back to that first date, is there
Speaker 3: any thing that could have happened that would cause the blocking?
Speaker 2: No? And I've asked myself that now, like up and down,
Speaker 2: and I'm for me. I thought it was mutual, Like
Speaker 2: you have this an insane chemistry that's super rare. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm so disappointed. I can't come up with any
Speaker 2: reason why. I like, you know, seeing some more to
Speaker 2: less than you would ghost me, Like why wouldn't you
Speaker 2: just say something?
Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll try to figure it out for you.
Speaker 1: Plus on come back and then call him and see
Speaker 1: if you'll tell us why he's ghosting you. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you plas, I'll come back get your first day
Speaker 1: follow up next. If you're just joining us for today's
Speaker 1: First Day follow up. Lauren is on the phone and
Speaker 1: she's getting ghosted by a dude named Sammy. So in
Speaker 1: a second, we're gonna call him. Seef'll tell us why
Speaker 1: he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date if
Speaker 1: she still wants one. But before we do that, Lauren,
Speaker 1: why don't you catch us up on your situation?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, basically, I had like two really nice dates
Speaker 2: with this guy, and I went for date number three
Speaker 2: and he was MI I A. And he has not
Speaker 2: talked to me whatsoever. And I don't understand why I'm
Speaker 2: being ghosted.
Speaker 1: And you think you might be blocked even.
Speaker 2: Yeah, blocked me? Why I didn't take him for being
Speaker 2: like So that's why I'm all right?
Speaker 1: You ready for us to call him? It's yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. Hello him. I as speaking to Sammy. Please.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, this is Sammy. What's up? This is Jewbel.
Speaker 1: My name is Jewbel. I host a radio show. It's
Speaker 1: called the Jubil Show.
Speaker 3: How's it going, Sammy? The whole show's here. I'm Nina
Speaker 3: Hi and I'm Victoria.
Speaker 4: Oh Hi, Hi?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: You ever listened to the show?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've ever heard you guys on well, have.
Speaker 1: You ever heard of first a follow up before.
Speaker 2: I have?
Speaker 4: I'm starting to get nervous here, But.
Speaker 1: Don't be nervous because we're calling you because somebody did
Speaker 1: send us an email about you, So maybe you'd be nervous.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But it's a segment where if you're
Speaker 1: ghosting somebody, they can email us to get you on
Speaker 1: the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. And we
Speaker 1: got an email about you from somebody.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think a problem. Know who you're talking about?
Speaker 1: Do you want to try to take a guess at
Speaker 1: the name the Lauren? Yes, Sammy, you're correct. You've won
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. But Lauren, do you mind telling us why
Speaker 1: you're ghosting her?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man? All right?
Speaker 4: Look, we we texted for a while.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 4: We meet for the date. Chemistry is there. She's really cool,
Speaker 4: she's hot. Everything was good, and then at some point
Speaker 4: the conversation turns around to like, you know, relationship stuff.
Speaker 4: You know, we're just talking about like relationship things like
Speaker 4: you know, we are you ever gonna have kids? Are
Speaker 4: you ever gonna get well? I don't know whatever, you know,
Speaker 4: just stuff like about relationship Okay, and At one point,
Speaker 4: I asked her what her definition of cheating is If
Speaker 4: a guy goes to a strip club, is that cheating
Speaker 4: that sort of thing? You know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 4: And let's just say that her perspective is pretty strict.
Speaker 4: She said even watching adult movies was cheating. That to
Speaker 4: me is like pretty extreme.
Speaker 1: And nobody's gonna take that from you.
Speaker 4: So you're saying, it's not like I watched it all
Speaker 4: the time, but it is a part of my life
Speaker 4: and it is okay that I enjoyed. I don't know,
Speaker 4: it just feels like that to me is not cheating.
Speaker 4: You know, that's just like entertainment.
Speaker 3: So did you have that conversation with her and like
Speaker 3: express your concern with her line that she drew in
Speaker 3: regards to adult film.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean I just kind of got awkward and
Speaker 4: it kind of gave me the egg, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. And it's just weird.
Speaker 3: I gave you an Okay, that's that's new.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I don't want to be a cheater,
Speaker 4: like if we got together, like I'd be cheating on
Speaker 4: her all the time. You know. It's like she can
Speaker 4: feel however she wants to feel, and that's totally fine,
Speaker 4: but I just kind of realized, like maybe this wasn't
Speaker 4: like a long term thing, and I maybe I should
Speaker 4: have said something I didn't. I mean, this happened in
Speaker 4: like the first forty five minutes of the date, and
Speaker 4: it was like four hours long, and like you know,
Speaker 4: you know, she spent the night and it was great,
Speaker 4: you know, that was fun. But the whole time I
Speaker 4: was just kind of this is in the back of
Speaker 4: my mind, and I just I mean, what do you
Speaker 4: say to that, you say, like, wait a minute, I
Speaker 4: gotta watch don't move.
Speaker 3: I feel like I would want to get to the
Speaker 3: bottom of it and kind of understand why that was
Speaker 3: such a hard line for somebody. Yeah, because I think
Speaker 3: we asked those questions in the beginning of a date,
Speaker 3: whether it's about the adult film or just like do
Speaker 3: you want to get married, but like to understand where
Speaker 3: the person comes from, and sometimes that's sometimes that sparks
Speaker 3: a conversation that helps the other person see where you're
Speaker 3: coming from and you can change your mind a little bit.
Speaker 3: She might have been into it if she was like,
Speaker 3: it's not cheating if you watch it with me, No.
Speaker 2: Can I just say something right now? It is absolutely
Speaker 2: textbook cheating, like no matter who we've watching it with.
Speaker 4: Oh, Sammy, wait a minute, Lauren, Wait, Lauren's here.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's Lauren. She's on the phone listening and wants
Speaker 1: to talk to you.
Speaker 4: Oh man, oh man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I came here to get answers. This was
Speaker 2: not one I was expecting to get of all the
Speaker 2: reasons that could be. But you know, like I have
Speaker 2: sort of I'm wondering, like why he was so like
Speaker 2: animated during sect And I'm like, maybe he was mimicking
Speaker 2: a performance like he had. And you've experienced watching these tutorials,
Speaker 2: if you will, you see it can be a good thing.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, And you know, while we're putting everything
Speaker 2: out on the table right now, I just want to
Speaker 2: ask something like, you know, we went on two dates,
Speaker 2: so there was a little bit of time in between,
Speaker 2: you know, Gate one and date two. So what were
Speaker 2: you doing during that time? Were you spending your time
Speaker 2: like prepping, you know, watching all these videos cheating? You know,
Speaker 2: what were you doing?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I watched some videos in between.
Speaker 2: That's the movie people do. Okay, So the gist of
Speaker 2: it is you were cheating on me.
Speaker 4: We weren't experiences we'd gone on a date. What are
Speaker 4: you talking about?
Speaker 2: You know this is cheating again types books cheating. It
Speaker 2: should just be between two people. It's to me, it's
Speaker 2: no different than cheating, swinging, watching for it's all the
Speaker 2: same group, it all together and hearing had like thinking
Speaker 2: that you're amazing. But it turns out I almost been
Speaker 2: blinded by something because you could not even stay faithful
Speaker 2: to me for two dates.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, it wasn't like a watching videos
Speaker 4: of girls that looked like you. I was watching videos
Speaker 4: of like other types of matter what they look like. Lauren,
Speaker 4: we went on two dates. We it's not like we
Speaker 4: were engaged. Like, this is wild to me.
Speaker 2: Really, you're forgetting in those four Actually it was six
Speaker 2: hours that we spent together, not four like you said.
Speaker 2: I guess you're forgetting half the things you said to
Speaker 2: me during that day. But it's cool, it's fine.
Speaker 4: I mean I didn't make commitments and I'm am I
Speaker 4: in single white female right now? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Is that another video kind of yeah.
Speaker 4: About a crazy girl. I'm scared. I don't know this
Speaker 4: is wild, man.
Speaker 2: I really don't think you would be acting pretty, nor
Speaker 2: think you'd be pretty crazy if you just found out
Speaker 2: you got cheated on too, okay, buddy, if you came.
Speaker 4: To me and said, hey, I was watching a bunch
Speaker 4: of porn this week, I'd be like, hell, yeah, look
Speaker 4: I didn't cheat on you. We weren't together, we went
Speaker 4: on two days. This is not okay.
Speaker 2: You can come up with an excuse, have vers, you
Speaker 2: try to like, you know, floss it all over and
Speaker 2: whatever you want to say, but like, you're a cheater
Speaker 2: and I do not ever want to see you again.
Speaker 1: Well I haven't asked, Sammy. Would you like to go
Speaker 1: on another day with Lauren? Will pay for it?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: No, I would like to log into my internet and
Speaker 4: watch some art films now, Thank you very much?
Speaker 2: Suh Okay. I think that's really just proved my point
Speaker 2: that I've been talking about with my friends, like every
Speaker 2: single guy out there is a cheater in some way,
Speaker 2: shape or form.
Speaker 3: I don't know that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 4: But sure, all right, Lauren, you know I nobody asked
Speaker 4: you to talk
Speaker 2: You first date, follow up,