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Speaker 1: Lauren is on the phone today for our first day

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Speaker 1: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Sammy.

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Speaker 1: So in a few minutes we'll call him and Seefa

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Speaker 1: tells why is ghosting her and maybe get her another date.

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Speaker 1: But first, Lauren, how long has it been since you

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Speaker 1: heard from Sammy?

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Speaker 2: Oh it's been like a week or two.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Have you reached out to him in that time?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I definitely have, although I don't think he

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Speaker 2: knows that I have. I'll probably have to explain that

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Speaker 2: to you a little bit a weird situation, okay, but

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying. It's that the date was

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Speaker 2: actually like amazing, and it's so rare that I meet

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Speaker 2: anyone's letters, you know, IRL or online where it's like

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Speaker 2: especially online to say, because you know, we'll text and

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Speaker 2: like I think that there could be a possibility of

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Speaker 2: that going somewhere, and then like, I don't know, we

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Speaker 2: meet up and it's just not what I expected. But

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Speaker 2: in this case, the text chemistry absolutely translated to real life.

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Speaker 2: We spent like several hours together wasn't just at one spot.

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Speaker 2: We were like kind of hopping all around one venue

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Speaker 2: which I don't expect. But yeah, I know, you know

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Speaker 2: talk in the radio, so something happened at our you know,

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Speaker 2: and then we decided to meet up for state number two,

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Speaker 2: which was just casual but so much fun, like downtown

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Speaker 2: but it was just a great time.

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Speaker 3: Did you go back with him after date number two? Too?

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Speaker 2: Well? I texted him and just got no response, like

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Speaker 2: I didn't know where he was, so sitting there like what.

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Speaker 2: And then after fifteen minutes I did something like I

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Speaker 2: never want to do, like the phone call like hey,

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait wait, I'm sorry he disappeared in the

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Speaker 2: No, I got there and he was nowhere to be found.

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Speaker 3: Oh got it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah again, I really think I like this guy. So

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Speaker 2: I'm like, normally, after fifteen minutes, I would just leave, like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to waste my time. I don't even

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Speaker 2: that you never know, like what could have happened? Right,

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Speaker 2: So I call and I miss that My calls are

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Speaker 2: doing like the same thing every single time. It would

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Speaker 2: like ring twice and then go straight to voicemail. I

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Speaker 2: talked this up to like okay, he's in a bad

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Speaker 2: want to say, like four times in a row. So

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Speaker 2: at that point I just was like, Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go ahead and google, like how do I know if

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Speaker 2: someone's blocked me? Because I never could understand the answer

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Speaker 2: to this. But it's actually turns out it's really easy

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Speaker 2: to do that. Apparently, like you could just make your

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Speaker 2: number anonymous. Yeah, to block people can just.

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Speaker 1: To find out if you're locked or to be blocked,

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Speaker 1: to be blocked.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Like this was a lesson for me because like

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Speaker 2: apparently it's like if it brings more than twice before

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Speaker 2: the voicemail, that means you're blocked?

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Speaker 3: It does or does that mean you're getting sent to voicemail?

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Speaker 2: It's blocked?

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Speaker 3: So I mean, okay, either it's not okay.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, all right, well, I wow, this

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Speaker 2: and I was sulking there, like I couldn't even building

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Speaker 3: Oh that's really a number. I would be frustrated about that,

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Speaker 3: especially if you think the date went so well that's yeah, yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Just want to know why.

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Speaker 3: Also, you're like, well, did you do something though, Like

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Speaker 3: any thing that could have happened that would cause the blocking?

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Speaker 2: No? And I've asked myself that now, like up and down,

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Speaker 2: and I'm for me. I thought it was mutual, Like

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Speaker 2: you have this an insane chemistry that's super rare. That's

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Speaker 2: why I'm so disappointed. I can't come up with any

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Speaker 2: less than you would ghost me, Like why wouldn't you

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Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll try to figure it out for you.

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Speaker 1: Plus on come back and then call him and see

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Speaker 1: if you'll tell us why he's ghosting you. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you plas, I'll come back get your first day

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Speaker 1: follow up next. If you're just joining us for today's

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Speaker 1: First Day follow up. Lauren is on the phone and

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Speaker 1: she's getting ghosted by a dude named Sammy. So in

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Speaker 1: a second, we're gonna call him. Seef'll tell us why

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Speaker 1: he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date if

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Speaker 1: she still wants one. But before we do that, Lauren,

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Speaker 1: why don't you catch us up on your situation?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, basically, I had like two really nice dates

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Speaker 2: and he was MI I A. And he has not

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Speaker 2: being ghosted.

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Speaker 1: And you think you might be blocked even.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, blocked me? Why I didn't take him for being

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Speaker 1: You ready for us to call him? It's yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Hello him. I as speaking to Sammy. Please.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, this is Sammy. What's up? This is Jewbel.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jewbel. I host a radio show. It's

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Speaker 1: called the Jubil Show.

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Speaker 3: How's it going, Sammy? The whole show's here. I'm Nina

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Speaker 3: Hi and I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 4: Oh Hi, Hi?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: You ever listened to the show?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've ever heard you guys on well, have.

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Speaker 1: You ever heard of first a follow up before.

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Speaker 2: I have?

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Speaker 4: I'm starting to get nervous here, But.

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Speaker 1: Don't be nervous because we're calling you because somebody did

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Speaker 1: send us an email about you, So maybe you'd be nervous.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But it's a segment where if you're

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Speaker 1: ghosting somebody, they can email us to get you on

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Speaker 1: the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. And we

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Speaker 4: Okay, I think a problem. Know who you're talking about?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to try to take a guess at

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Speaker 1: the name the Lauren? Yes, Sammy, you're correct. You've won

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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. But Lauren, do you mind telling us why

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man? All right?

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Speaker 4: Look, we we texted for a while.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 4: We meet for the date. Chemistry is there. She's really cool,

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Speaker 4: she's hot. Everything was good, and then at some point

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Speaker 4: the conversation turns around to like, you know, relationship stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're just talking about like relationship things like

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Speaker 4: you know, we are you ever gonna have kids? Are

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Speaker 4: just stuff like about relationship Okay, and At one point,

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Speaker 4: I asked her what her definition of cheating is If

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Speaker 4: that sort of thing? You know what I mean? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And let's just say that her perspective is pretty strict.

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Speaker 4: She said even watching adult movies was cheating. That to

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Speaker 1: And nobody's gonna take that from you.

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Speaker 4: So you're saying, it's not like I watched it all

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Speaker 4: and it is okay that I enjoyed. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: You know, that's just like entertainment.

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Speaker 3: So did you have that conversation with her and like

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Speaker 4: Oh, I mean I just kind of got awkward and

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Speaker 3: I gave you an Okay, that's that's new.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I don't want to be a cheater,

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Speaker 4: you know, that was fun. But the whole time I

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Speaker 3: I feel like I would want to get to the

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Speaker 3: She might have been into it if she was like,

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Speaker 3: it's not cheating if you watch it with me, No.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say something right now? It is absolutely

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Speaker 4: Oh, Sammy, wait a minute, Lauren, Wait, Lauren's here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's Lauren. She's on the phone listening and wants

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Speaker 4: Oh man, oh man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I came here to get answers. This was

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Speaker 2: reasons that could be. But you know, like I have

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Speaker 2: sort of I'm wondering, like why he was so like

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Speaker 2: a performance like he had. And you've experienced watching these tutorials,

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, And you know, while we're putting everything

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Speaker 2: ask something like, you know, we went on two dates,

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Speaker 2: you know, Gate one and date two. So what were

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Speaker 2: you doing during that time? Were you spending your time

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Speaker 2: like prepping, you know, watching all these videos cheating? You know,

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Speaker 2: what were you doing?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I watched some videos in between.

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Speaker 2: That's the movie people do. Okay, So the gist of

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Speaker 2: it is you were cheating on me.

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Speaker 4: We weren't experiences we'd gone on a date. What are

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Speaker 2: You know this is cheating again types books cheating. It

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Speaker 2: no different than cheating, swinging, watching for it's all the

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Speaker 2: same group, it all together and hearing had like thinking

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Speaker 2: that you're amazing. But it turns out I almost been

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Speaker 2: to me for two dates.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, it wasn't like a watching videos

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Speaker 4: of like other types of matter what they look like. Lauren,

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Speaker 4: we went on two dates. We it's not like we

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Speaker 4: were engaged. Like, this is wild to me.

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Speaker 2: Really, you're forgetting in those four Actually it was six

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Speaker 2: hours that we spent together, not four like you said.

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Speaker 2: I guess you're forgetting half the things you said to

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Speaker 2: me during that day. But it's cool, it's fine.

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Speaker 4: I mean I didn't make commitments and I'm am I

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Speaker 4: in single white female right now? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Is that another video kind of yeah.

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Speaker 4: About a crazy girl. I'm scared. I don't know this

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Speaker 4: is wild, man.

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Speaker 2: I really don't think you would be acting pretty, nor

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Speaker 2: think you'd be pretty crazy if you just found out

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Speaker 2: you got cheated on too, okay, buddy, if you came.

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Speaker 4: To me and said, hey, I was watching a bunch

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Speaker 4: of porn this week, I'd be like, hell, yeah, look

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Speaker 4: I didn't cheat on you. We weren't together, we went

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Speaker 4: on two days. This is not okay.

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Speaker 2: You can come up with an excuse, have vers, you

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Speaker 2: try to like, you know, floss it all over and

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Speaker 2: whatever you want to say, but like, you're a cheater

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Speaker 2: and I do not ever want to see you again.

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Speaker 1: Well I haven't asked, Sammy. Would you like to go

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Speaker 1: on another day with Lauren? Will pay for it?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 4: No, I would like to log into my internet and

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Speaker 4: watch some art films now, Thank you very much?

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Speaker 2: Suh Okay. I think that's really just proved my point

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Speaker 2: that I've been talking about with my friends, like every

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Speaker 2: single guy out there is a cheater in some way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that's a good way to put it.

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Speaker 4: But sure, all right, Lauren, you know I nobody asked

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Speaker 4: you to talk

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Speaker 2: You first date, follow up,