WEBVTT - Grease 2 with Solomon Georgio 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.040 On the Beck dol Cast. The questions asked if movies 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.760 have women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:10.920 and husbands? If do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:15.720 in best start changing it with the Beck del Cast. Hi, 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:17.680 welcome to the back tail Cast. You're listening to the 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.040 back tail Cast. This is our podcast about movies and 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.279 women in them. My name's Jamie, my name is Caitlin. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.360 This is our podcast called the back tel Cast, which 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.280 is our podcast. What is this the groundhog Day episode? 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.400 What's it about women in the movies that they're in, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:36.519 specifically how those movies portray the female characters, and how 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:41.919 it's often not very good, almost always bad. Yeah, breaking 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.960 news quick at the at the top of the episode. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:51.959 We have heard from Alfred Molina today, I you can 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:57.960 attest called you crime weeping in my garage, which is 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.960 where I fled to. I just read into my garage 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:05.000 and called you and Alfred Milena must and and not 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:09.039 to call him out, but he must search his own 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.160 name regularly on Twitter dot com. Because you did not 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.800 mention him, You did not at him. He was not tagged, 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.600 He was not tagged in any way, and he certainly 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.000 does not follow me on Twitter dot com, so he 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.040 must have found it. I believe what I said was 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.479 that I got so distracted by thinking about how Kris 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.680 Nooth is the poor man's Alfred Molina that I walked 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.399 into traffic, which is true. I did that this morning 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.480 because I've been watching The Good Wife and I hate it, 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.120 but I keep watching it. But Alvia Millana found that 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.920 quoted it was extremely humble. Wanted to give chrisnos his due, 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.640 which like, why bother? But whatever? Uh? And and now 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.120 he alleges that he will come on this podcast. So 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:56.080 after what a full year, this is the closest we've gotten, 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.280 and I'm not going to let it go right. We 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.200 will stop at nothing to get alphad Milina on this podcast. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:06.760 We know he's nearby, We'll do it. We basically recording 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.239 this on August seventeen. The episode won't come up for 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.560 a couple of weeks after this. By the time it 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.080 comes out, he might have probably would have divorced his wife, 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.080 will be fully. I realized recently it's my dream to 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:25.240 have step children who are older than me and hate me. 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.760 And I think that marrying alph Molina is going to 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.640 be an amazing shortcut to achieving net for sure. Yeah. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.280 So anyways, asked the breaking news will keep you posted. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:39.400 As of August seventeenth, I'm still flying high and crying 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.560 about it, indeed bringing it back to the cast. Hey, 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.480 we should mention what the what this? Even? What is Bechtel? Well, 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.239 it's a test. It requires it to women have to 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:51.840 talk to each other in a movie. They have to 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.360 have names and their conversation has to be about something 0:02:55.600 --> 0:03:00.720 that's not a man. So we will in with this 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.880 movie that we're talking about later on to see if 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.920 it passes the backdel test. But before we do that, 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:10.079 we should introduce our terrific guests. He is a hilarious comedian. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.040 He has a half hour coming out on Comedy Central 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:18.079 and his first album coming out in October. Somon, Georgia, 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.200 thanks for being here. Thanks for being okay with me 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.440 being late. That's fine. One of us is late almost 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:33.560 every Oh okay, I've been so late that I've missed 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:38.360 the episode. It's all good. So we're here to talk 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.800 about Greece too. So why did you pick this movie? 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.640 What's your relationship to it? When did you first see it? 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.200 It is one of those movies that I think is 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.680 in the original. I think I watched it in on 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.240 like TBS or t n T because it came out 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.800 in what eight two? Yeah, yeah, so I was like 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.400 a young kid, and I think I watched Greece before it, 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.680 and then I just like, I get it. But then 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.560 I saw the second I was like this, this is 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:08.320 what good movies are. I probably watched it plus times. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.040 It's one of those ones that's always always always on TV, 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.280 just like the really bad TNT edit of Kill Bill 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:19.360 that's always on TV that I love, or I'm trying 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.400 to think of other movies they're always on Basic Cable 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.320 for some weeks. Back to the Future is always on 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.920 not as much as you think. The Fugitive. Yeah, I 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.200 love that movie. It's one of the few movies where 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.600 wherever it starts, I will sit down and watch it, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.880 like Cheap to License, because there's like five movies that 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.400 are always on television no matter what. And Heat is 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.279 another one which is very weird because this is a 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.360 very long movie. Yeah, it's it's forever long. That's crazy, 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:53.440 Jamie want to do for Seagrease to today same. In fact, 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.240 I thought I had seen the first one all the 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.880 way through apparently I have not, because I watched it 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.159 yesterday and I do not remember the second half of 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.440 it at all. So I had not seen that entire 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.839 first one until yesterday, and I gotta be honest, I 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:10.240 don't really like it. I think, yeah, I like it 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.120 up until a certain point, right up to Stoker Channing's 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:17.200 abortion song, and then after that, I'm like, it's hard 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.400 to stay on board after that, the first crease, I'm 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.679 like to like, I've seen it a bunch of times, 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.680 and I was like, did it for like Summer Stock 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.680 theater and like all this, Like it's man, it's an 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:33.280 exhausting show with a with a deeply questionable message. I 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.680 do think that the message is the same in Greece too, 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.080 but it's like flipped in a way that I like 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.680 way better. But it also wasn't like like when Sandy 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:43.920 churn at the end, there was that was like out 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.320 of nowhere right right, There was no no need for 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.200 that to happen at all. He was already on board, yeah, 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.440 and she's like, oh, I wear leather jackets of smoke 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:58.400 cigarettes and he's like, now even better. The transformation takes 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:02.240 place for most I mean, like a good hour there's 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:08.080 a lot of motorcycle learning and Greece to Yeah, it 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.520 was a really I really liked it. I was riveted. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.479 I had a fun time watching it. Yeah, for sure, 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.920 Like it's a great deal more than the original and 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.880 the first one. Well, it made the Pink Ladies the star, 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:22.280 which I think is the better. And also, if you're 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:26.400 talking about leading men, Max Caufield versus John Travolta, I'm 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:32.840 fucking going Caufield. Yeah, this felt like Greece too. Felt 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.720 just felt like a like a really good rewriter the 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.920 first Yeah, like it's just a better version. It felt 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:40.680 like a later draft that was like what if we 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.480 just make this whole thing better? And yeah, but I 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.560 do love though that. Basically, this movie is about a 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:51.279 woman not liking a very handsome British man because he 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:56.640 doesn't wear leather jacket's un nerd. He's such a nerd 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.520 because he's British. But he's also like she's also doesn't 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:05.200 like the toughest boy in school. She's also done with him. Yeah. Yeah, 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.400 I guess she just needed a combination. She needed a 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.600 sensitive guy who wears leather jackets. That's all she wanted, 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:14.640 and she was not lying because the second one came around, 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.760 she got into his motorcycle. I was like, I don't 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.160 care what your face is. I was really hoping from more. 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.160 I was really hoping for a more dramatic Fantom of 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:27.200 the Opera style room. And this is the weird scene 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.160 at the end with the Grecian pool. I was like, oh, yeah, 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:34.920 like high school is a big, big float where he 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:36.600 comes in. I was like, oh my god. I wanted 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.000 her to That's maybe my only grip of this movie. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.200 I wanted her to take off his helmet or his 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:45.520 not even his helmet. It's his Fantom of the Opera 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.880 mass but he's wearing. But also, how great would it 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.280 be to just have sex with somebody wearing a helmet 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:55.160 and never seen I've been married to the same man 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:59.040 who has been wearing a scuba helmet for twelve years, 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.680 and we're very happy. I know. I've been married to 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.920 v from V for Vendella as I said a single 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.040 word to me, and I'm having a great time. All 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.600 of these people we just described are better at hiding 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.800 her face. In the Phantom of the app you let 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.880 it out very quickly, yes, and it's like, oh, it's 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.800 Gerard Butler with some sort of allergic reaction happening on 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.320 one alp of his face. Well, I think that's a 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:28.440 great transition to the recap of Greece too. So the 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.000 story is about Stephanie. She's sort of the lead of 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:36.520 the Pink Ladies. This kind of click. At Lidel High School, 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:41.600 Stephanie had been dating the leader of the tea Birds. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.000 Is that what they called the tea birds? His name 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.560 is Johnny, And she's like, you know what, I'm over. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:51.600 We're over. I'm single. Now I'm done. Yeah. Then who 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:57.000 shows up but Michael Carrington, a British man whose cousins 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:01.360 with Sandy Olivia Newton. John's character for throw a details. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.600 I also like that he spends a whole movie speaking 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.600 in a British accent. But Sandy was Australian. I mean, 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:14.560 I guess there can be interconf Australia. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:19.400 In any case, it's confusing their relationship. But he shows 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.640 up and he's handsome to boot and he takes an 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.439 interest in Stephanie. But she's like, you don't wear enough 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:30.520 leather jackets, you don't have enough motorcycles, so hard pass. 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.160 So he's like, well, I'm going to have to win 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.600 her over somehow. So he starts saving up money. He's 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:40.760 writing essays for the other t bird guys, buys a motorcycle, 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.240 gets a leather jacket, gets some goggles, turns into this 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:51.880 mystery man. Then Stephanie was like, oh my other jacket goggles, 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:53.920 sign me up. So she just like hops on the 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.439 back of his motorcycle. They have a kiss, a little smooch, 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.640 and then at one point in the movie there's he's 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:04.440 like other leather jacket wearing guys from I think another school, 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:10.880 and they show up. Yeah they're not the Teabers, are 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.040 just another group that seems similar to the Teabirds. They 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.959 look and behave identity. They did the same thing in 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:20.240 the first movie, right right right, Yeah, guys called crater 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.400 Face a lot. So they show up, and then the 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.960 tea Birds start getting wise to Michael, whose identity still 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.920 remains unknown, and they're like, who's this other who's this 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.200 mystery guy? None of us like him, so they all 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.720 chase him and he jumps over this ravine, I guess, 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.440 and everyone thinks he dies. So then Stephanie's sad and 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.199 she's like, well no, And then there's a everyone's gearing 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.319 up for this talent show and then he shows up 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.240 and he's like, I'm not dead, and then they are 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:53.640 in love. The end the talent show is okay, help 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.200 me out here, because there are the three spiffy young 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.280 men who are good at singing. Several times, then at 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.280 the end, the Tea Birds are like, we're going to 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:05.520 take their jackets, which is where they hid their talent, 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.320 because then the Tea Birds go on stage and suddenly 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.560 they can sing and they're really good. I don't know 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.160 why they kidnapped the sweet little spiffy boys. It's like, um, 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:24.000 Jesus and then Technicolor dream Coat? Is that what's very good? Yes, 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:30.079 it's all the same to clean together. No, I'm gonna 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.800 stand by Jesus and Detecticolor dream Coat. Jesus was not 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:38.079 stylish from what I've seen. Judas, however, if we were 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.040 to judge from his first number in j C Superstar, 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.320 extremely stylish. I've been trying to figure out how to 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.120 get that outfit for myself for years. It's like a 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:51.199 two piece orange tied eye. It's great, You're going to 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.760 have to make it. Yeah, I think, yes, that's what 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.240 it's so good. Anyways, what are we talking about? The 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.160 spiffy boys. But I think the most important part of 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.960 this movie that we gloss over was the return of 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:10.640 a D. D. Con as Frenchie, which I think is 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.640 so does she reroll back in school to learn chemistry 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.920 so she can like develop skincare products? Not how high 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.800 school works. You don't go back for one class the best, Like, 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.719 I never friend's life is my favorite life because it 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.640 doesn't make any sense. The fact that her character just 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.400 leaves school and becomes a beauty school dropout has nothing 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.440 to do with the first movie. Yeah, it's I like 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.200 the fact that freend she just shows up and you're like, 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.000 here's her side story and you need to know it, 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.360 and it will not make any sense to anyone. How 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.680 much time has passed between the two movies. I know 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.680 it's like four years between the movies were released, but 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.800 like narratively two okay only two years. She was a senior, 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.720 so she she didn't graduate, So I think she just 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.240 came back for her senior year to graduate, and I 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.520 think she's just going to go on to another school. 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.040 I have no idea exactly what how the world of 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.480 cosmetics work, but I'm pretty sure you don't need to. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.920 There's yeah, every scene d D cons and is so 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:16.160 because everyone in this movie is thirty, but she looks 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.280 thirty and so. And then there's that scene where she's 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.680 like working at her side job and it's like, I 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.319 it's so unclear, and then she says several she's like, 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.800 Stephanie is one of my best friends, but they've never 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.960 seen him hang out, like are you lying? It's just 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.480 like a Pink Ladies thing. But she she sort of 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.360 almost plays like an oracle kind of like faith but 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.839 like not giving any like solid advice, just like this 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.520 is what's happening. She's like, well, he you're not a 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.679 tea birds. You can't even look at Stephanie. She really 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:51.160 just gives exposition from the previous movie, right, like she 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.199 doesn't push the platford really like does she. I mean, 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.240 she's just like, well, this is how the Pink Ladies 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.040 and the Tea Birds work, and if you don't know 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:02.920 that then and then she just like you know, but 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.520 she also looks like she's not also that's not how 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.280 it works. When she went to school there like she 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.800 saw that like a shift in that power dynamic. And 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:11.000 then she's all of a a sudden, She's like, I'm just 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:16.440 going to reinforce it for this young boy. It used 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.079 to be this way. I changed a little bit, but 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.200 it's going to stay this way again. I'm going to 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.760 go to shining time station. You know, she's living in 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.440 the past. What else do you expect she is, She's 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.840 back in high school. She's the person coming back to 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.720 the frat house. It's just like, I want to see 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.960 her like thirty years later all strangers with Candy going 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.160 back to high school as like a forty seven year old. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.520 I want to see that sequel Grease three. Baby. She's 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.720 some sort of very strange feedback, like me to get 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.120 my ap English course because I'm going to become a poet. 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.120 She's going to high school, she's only taking a cover class. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.480 It just doesn't And then she's in That's like the 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.000 one scene she is in with with Stephanie is when 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.400 all the pink ladies that are always together coming and 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.040 they see Frenchie, but they still kind of make fun 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.800 of her a little bit, like it's confusing. They're kind 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.160 of mean to each other, all the pink ladies. Yeah, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.840 one gets slut shamed by another one and didn't care 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.080 much for that. She's like, you'd full around with anyone. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:25.400 And they're also mean to those twin cheerleader, I don't know, 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:31.760 they're mean girls. Let's keep reinforcing the stereotype. Yeah, so 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.320 who do we have female character wise? We've got Stephanie. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:38.120 That's Michelle Fifer and then her other pink ladies, I 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.800 think our poulette. There's Rhonda, I think when more more 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.840 whose name I didn't ever care. Oh right, Sharon's the 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.400 one who's backed into the bunker. Right, Oh, gets like 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:57.080 manipulated into sex. Yeah, I'm glad that she doesn't or 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:00.040 like nothing happens and they don't go through with it, 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:04.080 because otherwise that would have been horrific. Yeah, that seemed 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:08.840 in age very well. Didn't And also, like a lot 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.080 of scenes in this movie have no like if you 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:15.760 take that scene out the movies unchanged, it's a it's 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.520 a musical number. That's what both both Greeces are like 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.480 that you can take an entire thing out and you're like, 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:25.920 this has nothing. Oh, this is the same because, especially 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:27.920 in the first Greece, you could go from the first 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.520 moment to the last moment and it's pretty much the 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.040 whole story is like, she's not like the other girls, 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:37.560 just kidding she is. The movie is sober. Yeah, okay, 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.400 so the other there's Dolores, which is I think Paul. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.800 It's younger sister. She's the one who's like, I read 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.400 a skateboard, I'm not old enough to drive. Wait wait, wait, 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.400 and then we've got French you. We've got a few 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.760 teachers and school administrators like miss Mason. Everyone makes fun 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.880 of her hair slash compliment it. Mr Spears. Mr Spears, 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.720 what's wrong with him? At the end, he walks into 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.960 a pool. I do love the like both movies at 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.119 the same situation, just this airhead school administrator that doesn't 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.480 know Yeah, I think, yeah, it's Ms ms McGee and 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.520 Blanche Like they're this little duo of like clueless. However, 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.560 I do love um. It is an eighties trope that 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.000 that I wish would return. Is Paul. That's younger sister, 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.919 the tough little girl that's there for no other reason 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.000 but to just show up and be like I'm fucking tough, 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.840 and it just disappears. Well there's pops up again. At 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.679 the end You're like, oh, yeah, right, you were a 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.880 person And it's like we have to break up. Well, 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.120 the first time you meet her, she's talking to Michael 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.000 and he's like, can I walk you home? She's like, 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:44.520 I don't need a babysitter, and he's like, well, what 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:49.560 if it's a date? And meanwhile, she's thirteen And that 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.560 is gross, but I do it's a weird thing. But 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.960 that Trope, I think it comes back every once in 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:56.280 a while, and I love it so much. I think 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:57.840 it should always come back because the last time he 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.400 saw it was kick Ass and like the only time 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.520 that Trope ever got their own movie, I believe was 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.880 Curly Sue. Oh, I've never seen that. Just had the whole, 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.639 the whole tough little girl who has to deal with 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:13.320 a shitty world and she's had enough. Yeah, she's our 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:17.440 little Punky. I like the Loris And if you don't 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.680 like her, she's in it for five minutes. She's there 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.879 to just ask some spice and then get up exactly. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:25.919 So the first point I wanted to make, and we 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.159 already kind of touched on this. One of the reasons 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.560 I didn't like the first Grease very much and why 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.439 I liked this one a lot better is that the 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:36.000 first one, the female lead, Sandy was very passive, like 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.040 things were just sort of happening to her. She didn't 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.480 really have any agent. She's spent most of the movie 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.320 just like pining over Danny Zugo and then being like 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:45.560 he doesn't want to be with me or he's with 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.040 another girl, and I'm stand and I'm not going to 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.439 do anything about it. And then in the end she 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:55.240 basically changes everything about herself for no reason and it worked, 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.640 and it worked. She got him even though she would 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:02.159 have had him anyway, and besides, I love a man. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:07.600 Now she's doing what she had and I can control her. 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:16.480 And then they fly away, so that is stupid. But 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:20.200 then that m has shift with Greece to where Stephanie 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:24.600 becomes the protagonist. She's got agency, we know what she wants, 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:30.240 she very explicitly says it. And the dance number the 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.440 best song of all the Grease movies. Cool Writer is 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.480 so good. It is so good. It's funny how that 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.080 song sort of ends. There's a lot of songs in 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.760 this movie the end with like it's usually one person 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.920 singing in and they'll just walk away and the song 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.840 won't fade out as they're walking away by themselves. Talking 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:50.359 about what they want, and you're just like this is 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:54.680 this is like Michelle Fiber just like walks out of it. 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.879 I'm talking to myself where I believe she keeps singing. 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.160 So there's that moment where we're like, okay, we know 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.960 at least what she wants, you know, as the audience, 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.040 we have an understanding of what she's all about. And 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.240 then there's another moment in the bowling Alley, I think 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.760 where the bowling song the bowling song, and then Johnny's 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:18.720 all like, I want my trophy, calling women literal trophies 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:24.720 daughters having none of that. Eventually, oh wait does that 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:30.359 who that is? The left? Yeah? Oh yeah wait she 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:34.200 plays um is that? Yeah? I didn't know that? And 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.439 it went and if you if you rewatch it with 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:44.320 that her inflection, she's or less super talented. Yeah, she 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.080 gets called a trophy, but she's like the second place 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.040 or she like you're the runner up or the whatever, 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.399 the best average and he's like what about first place? 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.560 Best score and stuff. Is all like I'm not a trophy, 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.880 but she never she's she's sort of as exact. She's like, yeah, 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:04.560 I'm the hottest. I just don't want to date you. Yeah, 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:06.879 She's like, I ain't no one's trophy. I kiss who 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.000 I want when I want, I'll kiss the next guy 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:16.400 comes into, who happens to be hot British Michael. But 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.600 the problem that so she has more agency than the 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:24.320 female lead in the first movie Great. However, the problem 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:28.000 for me is that everything is still like that song 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.399 in that conversation. The whole story is still framed around 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:32.520 like which guy she's going to end up with, so 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:36.080 it's like, you know, still not the feminist masterpiece that 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:43.520 we're hoping. However, it is based on her decision because 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:45.720 she's still got Johnny being like I want you, I 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:48.000 want you, and she's just like, no, I already told 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:51.720 you we're through, and he keeps trying, and she's like, no, 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:53.960 I'm gonna I'm gonna be with who I want, and 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.440 it's going to be this mystery fanom of the Opera 0:21:56.720 --> 0:22:03.000 motorcycle guy. I love the Fan of the Opera. It 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.680 never gets home except when he takes off his mask. 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:10.240 He's extremely hot underneath and hotter than everyone else in 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:12.119 the movie. I'm gonna start wearing a Fan of the 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:14.879 Opera masks on dates and stuff, because then when you 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.680 take it off. Guys are like, wow, no matter what's there, 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:22.880 they'll be like cool, better than better than the mask. Yeah, 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:26.680 you're hotter than that mask you're just wearing. Johnny is 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:28.639 weird because I watched the first one as well, and 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:34.040 Johnny is like a less slightly less desirable Danny Zuka character, 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:36.600 So I feel like they're almost commenting on that character 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:40.639 and what a piece of shitty is. He's like basically 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.600 the same character, but this time Stephanie's like, no, you're dumb, 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.040 You're and like points out everything that is wrong with 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:49.600 basically Danny z Yeah, and that is exactly what should 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:53.240 be done Danny z piece of ship. With both of 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:57.200 those characters, Danny Zuko and Johnny, they're just like dripping 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:00.720 with toxic masculinity. And I feel like this movie does 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:02.920 a little bit better job than the first one of 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:06.280 being like, hey, maybe this isn't the best quality to 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.800 have is a man? This movie like yeah, like frames 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:11.600