Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode three eighty five.
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Speaker 1: great looking shirt. Weather must be gorgeous in La today,
Speaker 1: even though I'm sure folks are going to be a
Speaker 1: little down as the Dodgers might be frittering away this
Speaker 1: world series. And I have the hottest take, the hottest
Speaker 1: take about why the Dodgers are down three two to
Speaker 1: the blue Jays. Are you ready for it?
Speaker 2: What's the what is that?
Speaker 1: The blue Jays are better? Oh Goo days had a
Speaker 1: better record by one game. The blue Jays don't have
Speaker 1: a massive liability, that is their bullpen. The blue Jays
Speaker 1: are hot and confident and bad on ball. What'd you
Speaker 1: say ball?
Speaker 2: They're connecting?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, exactly right, but the ball and play. And
Speaker 1: here here's the other thing we were trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how to discuss this on for first things first today,
Speaker 1: which is it is a clumsy if you will, almost topic,
Speaker 1: not clumsy topic, but it's unwieldy, which is, how do
Speaker 1: you square this circle that we have seen this postseason?
Speaker 1: Shohei o Tani have arguably you, arguably the two greatest
Speaker 1: games anyone has ever played in the history of playoff baseball.
Speaker 1: The three home run ten strikeout game and then the
Speaker 1: two home run, two double five walk game. We've seen
Speaker 1: that just in the last week. How do you square
Speaker 1: that with? And other than those two games, he's been brewed,
Speaker 1: like what do you what it is? It's and and
Speaker 1: last postseason he was banged up, but he wasn't great.
Speaker 1: But you can't be like, oh, he's not a postseason
Speaker 1: performer because he literally might have had the two greatest
Speaker 1: playoff games ever played, uh, in the playoffs. But also
Speaker 1: aside and this is kind of a reverse, yeah, but
Speaker 1: aside from that, missus Lincoln, how was the play you
Speaker 1: don't want to Yeah, but the two greatest baseball games
Speaker 1: any of us have ever seen, arguably, But aside from that,
Speaker 1: he hasn't been good. It's really weird. And so on
Speaker 1: first things first, we determined the way we're gonna frame
Speaker 1: it is because Bruce been calling him the boat the
Speaker 1: best of all time? Has this postseason helped or hurt
Speaker 1: his quest for that title?
Speaker 3: And he's hitting you know, it's the game. It's really
Speaker 3: rough on the body, dude.
Speaker 1: So I do wonder how much of it is that
Speaker 1: is that of everyone, the eighteen inning game took the
Speaker 1: most out of show hey, because the very next day,
Speaker 1: after being on base nine times, he then also had
Speaker 1: to pitch. But it's listen. I think my prediction before
Speaker 1: the series was Blue Jays and seven. I think that's
Speaker 1: still what's gonna happen because I think Yamamoto is going
Speaker 1: to is gonna pitch a gym in game six. And
Speaker 1: by the way, here is I wonder you throw in
Speaker 1: the doc if you guys could look it up for me.
Speaker 1: What Yamamoto's World Series MVP odds are. I think before
Speaker 1: the World Series he was thirty five to one. Yesterday
Speaker 1: he was sixteen to one because if the Blue Jay,
Speaker 1: if the Dodgers do end up coming back to win it,
Speaker 1: he's fourteen to one now, so maybe he was, you know,
Speaker 1: sixteen to one in some books fourteen to one. Another
Speaker 1: Dodgers come back to win it, and Yamamoto has two
Speaker 1: complete games two of their four wins. With Shohy cooling
Speaker 1: off a bit. I wonder if he could win World
Speaker 1: Series MVP. I mean, the smart money right now would
Speaker 1: be on Vlad because it looks like the Blue Jays
Speaker 1: are gonna win it. But that is that is something.
Speaker 1: And I've been locked in to playoff to playoff baseball
Speaker 1: in the World Series. I think it's been great and
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled we're getting at least six, if not seven games.
Speaker 1: So right now, Yamamoto's got the third best odds, but
Speaker 1: it's Vladdie minus two hundred, show Hey plus two thirty,
Speaker 1: and then Yamamoto at fourteen to one. All right, let's
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Speaker 1: Austin becomes almost wholly redundant. Do they consider selling super
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Speaker 1: and shooting, or do they look at Austin as Luca's
Speaker 1: running mate for the next five years. I don't know
Speaker 1: the answer to that, And a lot of that has
Speaker 1: to do with how good the Lakers think they can
Speaker 1: be this season when they're fully healthy. So all that,
Speaker 1: and then their Nick's Halloween costume. But I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: dressing up for Halloween this year. Your little sister's going
Speaker 1: as a ghostbuster, so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: And a little vacuum or something.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't vacuum, but yeah, I mean I
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Speaker 1: to the pod. A lot to do today. I am
Speaker 1: also a tad bit under the weather, if I'm being
Speaker 1: totally honest, and so I'm going to power through. Let's
Speaker 1: get to the annually the Bill's annual super Bowl, their
Speaker 1: regular season game against the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it is super Bowl week over there in
Speaker 3: Buffalo and Buffalo's home dogs this time. I know, what,
Speaker 3: what do you think we're gonna learn more from? Or
Speaker 3: which team do you think we're gonna learn more from
Speaker 3: in this game?
Speaker 1: So a lot here, right, and the Bills likely without
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver, which is brutal for them. The Chiefs definitely
Speaker 1: without their starting left tackle Josh Simmons. I do expect
Speaker 1: him back by the way in November, but he's not
Speaker 1: going to be there for this game. Trey Smith should
Speaker 1: be back, which is important. Those are the maybe most
Speaker 1: noteworthy injuries or absences for the Bills. The real question
Speaker 1: to me is can this defense slow down what has
Speaker 1: become the most pro with respect to the Colts, the
Speaker 1: most prolific offense in the NFL. That is that that's
Speaker 1: the question for Buffalo and for Kansas. It is actually
Speaker 1: a similar question in this regard, which is the Chiefs
Speaker 1: have the defense the last two weeks has been unbelievable,
Speaker 1: but you're playing Mariota and you're playing the Raiders when
Speaker 1: they have played legitimate quarterbacks. Those teams have moved the ball. Now, listen,
Speaker 1: the Lions only scored seventeen points, but they moved the ball.
Speaker 1: The Prince and the Jags moved the ball. Baltimore in
Speaker 1: the three quarters, Lamar played moved the ball. Philly actually
Speaker 1: struggled a bit moving the ball. But the Chargers move
Speaker 1: the ball. So this Chiefs defense can't generate enough of
Speaker 1: a pass rush without having to send blitz after blitz
Speaker 1: after blitz to disrupt Josh Allen. So those are the
Speaker 1: real The focus is going to be on Allen and Mahomes,
Speaker 1: But as far as learning more about either of these teams,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be more about the defensive side of the game.
Speaker 1: But I will also say this, if I were just
Speaker 1: to name a few Bill Simmons or Mike Greenberg or
Speaker 1: Jim Rome or Joe Montana or Steven Ruiz or Dominique Foxworth,
Speaker 1: some of these people are my good friends or colleague
Speaker 1: or Colin Cowherd might mentor and dear dear friend, any
Speaker 1: of a dozen people who in September or August definitively
Speaker 1: declared that the best quarterback in football is Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: I'd be a little nervous this week because twenty some
Speaker 1: million people are going to watch the Chiefs go to
Speaker 1: Buffalo and what very well might be the last time
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Allen ever play in that stadium, and I
Speaker 1: think they're going to watch Patrick put on an absolute masterclass.
Speaker 1: And I understand that it was very in vogue, as
Speaker 1: it is every September, and again I have been very
Speaker 1: complimentary of Josh the last couple of years, but it
Speaker 1: was very in vogue to just flatly assert, oh, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen's the best player in the league after the first
Speaker 1: few weeks of the season, and since then he's been good,
Speaker 1: but not great. The team has been just fine since
Speaker 1: that three and zero start two and two, and right
Speaker 1: now this year, the only win the Bills have to
Speaker 1: hang their hat on is a Ravens win. That Ravens
Speaker 1: win that has not I guess I think it's fair
Speaker 1: to say aged amazingly because the Ravens were such a
Speaker 1: mess the first six weeks of the year. And this
Speaker 1: gets us to demands the rivalry questions. So go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'll let.
Speaker 3: You yes, like like you said this is gonna be
Speaker 3: the tenth time that they face each other, So what
Speaker 3: would Allen need to do.
Speaker 2: In this game for it to be considered a rivalry
Speaker 2: or a true rivalry.
Speaker 1: So I under it is a rivalry. I want to
Speaker 1: like I don't think it's not a rivalry. It's the
Speaker 1: two best quarterbacks in the league, and it is two
Speaker 1: of the three best teams in the league over the
Speaker 1: last five years. I don't think you can call it
Speaker 1: the two best teams in the league because I think
Speaker 1: you have to get Philadelphia. It's credit. They've been to
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls, they've won one, But it is It
Speaker 1: is unlike any rivalry we've seen in NFL history, where
Speaker 1: despite the fact that the teams are you know, in
Speaker 1: any given year, even or one guy just has a
Speaker 1: slight advantage. Early on when they were playing, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: clearly had the better offensive weapons, the Bills clearly had
Speaker 1: the better defense. The last couple of years, the Bills
Speaker 1: probably had the better offensive weapons, offensive line, running back, core,
Speaker 1: tight ends, you know, and the Chiefs might have actually
Speaker 1: had the better defense. And one team has consistently won
Speaker 1: the regular season matchups, and one team has won every
Speaker 1: single one of the postseason matchups, and it is and I,
Speaker 1: you know, ranted about this on the TV show yesterday,
Speaker 1: so I don't have to spend too much time on
Speaker 1: it here. But people so badly want it to be
Speaker 1: Brady Peyton and it has just been nothing like Brady Peyton,
Speaker 1: and it's maddening to me. Brady Peyton.
Speaker 2: Was.
Speaker 1: Peyton was the guy with the multiple MVPs. Peyton was
Speaker 1: the guy with the crazy stats, and Brady was the
Speaker 1: one with the rings in this instance. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Peyton in their third playoff matchup beat Brady, and in
Speaker 1: their fourth playoff matchup beat Brady, and in their fifth
Speaker 1: and final playoff matchup beat Brady. Fact that nobody seems
Speaker 1: to remember but me is Peyton finished the Brady Peyton
Speaker 1: playoff rivalry with a winning record. He was one and
Speaker 1: two with the Colts and two and zero with the Broncos.
Speaker 1: But set that aside Josh and Patrick, Josh is the
Speaker 1: Patrick is the one with multiple MVPs. Patrick is the
Speaker 1: one with the gaudier stats, and Patrick is the only
Speaker 1: one that's ever won. So it is far closer to
Speaker 1: Jordan Ewing or or lebron Toronto than it is bird
Speaker 1: magic or Peyton Brady?
Speaker 3: What do you like, bron Toronto is crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what it's been. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: that they even when Toronto had the better regular season
Speaker 1: record than Cleveland, even when they were the favorite in
Speaker 1: the series, which people will pretend to said true twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: Holmes has always had the gaudier stats. I feel like
Speaker 3: some years Josh Allen has beaten Patrick Mahomes out on well.
Speaker 1: No, I mean last year Josh was literally League MVP,
Speaker 1: and the year before Josh had better individual numbers. But
Speaker 1: I'm talking about for the totality of their careers, Patrick
Speaker 1: has more passing yards, more touchdowns, fewer turnovers, a higher
Speaker 1: passer rating, and no, no, no, the last two years Josh
Speaker 1: has had the the better numbers, and the last two
Speaker 1: years they've played in the playoffs, once in Josh's building,
Speaker 1: once in Patrick's. The last two years, Josh has had
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands less than five minutes remaining
Speaker 1: down three points, chance to go slay the dragon, and
Speaker 1: the last two years the Bills have walked off the
Speaker 1: field getting zero points from those drives, and the Chiefs celebrate.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just what's happened, and uh and so
Speaker 1: I just people so badly want Patrick dabber peer and
Speaker 1: he just doesn't at this point. And as far as
Speaker 1: can this game change that, no could. Would the Bills
Speaker 1: beating the Chiefs in the playoffs finally change that? Sure,
Speaker 1: but we're far a long way from it. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk MVP. Uh yeah, how far.
Speaker 2: Do you think that this game will go into side
Speaker 2: in the MVP?
Speaker 3: Well and also another follow up on this, could the
Speaker 3: loser still be eligible for MVP?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, we do too much. It's week
Speaker 1: eight or we just finished Week eight. A lot of
Speaker 1: people are still eligible for MVP. You're not knocked out
Speaker 1: of it here. But Josh's MVP case right now to
Speaker 1: me is very shaky. And listen, I was on the
Speaker 1: record throughout last season that I thought at the end
Speaker 1: of last season he was the MVP. But right now
Speaker 1: this moment, Josh's team has a good but not great record.
Speaker 1: But that's the same with Patrick. They both have five wins.
Speaker 1: Josh is, however, twentieth in the NFL in passing yards.
Speaker 1: He is tied for fourteenth in the NFL in passing touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He is ninth in the NFL in passer rating, and
Speaker 1: you can say, well, you know, we've got to and
Speaker 1: we do have to give Josh credit for the rushing
Speaker 1: piece of it. So he's rushed for two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty yards and has rushed for five touchdowns. The touchdowns
Speaker 1: more impressive than the yards. Obviously, on that note, Josh
Speaker 1: has not up to this point played like an MVP,
Speaker 1: and the point I was making earlier after he was
Speaker 1: unbelievable in that Ravens game, and he was unbelievable in
Speaker 1: the Dolphins game. That was the game after the Dolphins
Speaker 1: game when Mike Greenberg said he's never seen anyone play
Speaker 1: the position better than Josh Allen. Since those three game,
Speaker 1: those opening three weeks, he's been mediocre against the same points.
Speaker 1: Threw for two hundred yards, two touchdowns and a pick
Speaker 1: against the Patriots and a loss. Threw for two touchdowns
Speaker 1: or two touchdowns, one pick and two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: three yards against the Falcons and a loss. Was bad.
Speaker 1: Two touchdowns, two picks at seventy three rating one hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty yards. I against the Panthers last week, didn't
Speaker 1: have to do anything, and I mean they won forty
Speaker 1: to nine. You don't hold it against it. He threw
Speaker 1: for one hundred and sixty yards.
Speaker 4: So it is.
Speaker 1: Right now if we were talking NFL MVP as far
Speaker 1: as not projection demons on who's going to win it,
Speaker 1: but on who if the award were given out, if
Speaker 1: we had a mid season MVP, better candidates than Josh
Speaker 1: would be Drake May, who, honestly I think would be
Speaker 1: the mid season MVP. I think right now this moment,
Speaker 1: Drake May has you could argue, has been the MVP.
Speaker 1: Drake has a better case. Jonathan Taylor, if we're going
Speaker 1: to open it up to running backs, has a better case.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: That's Baker.
Speaker 3: Like I know, he got knocked out, but given the
Speaker 3: totality his his season has been equal to, if not
Speaker 3: better than Josh Allen's.
Speaker 1: Up to this point. Yes, I and so the right now,
Speaker 1: if again, if we're voted on right now, my my
Speaker 1: top five would be Drake, Stafford, Taylor, Baker, and Patrick.
Speaker 1: And then I think you well, I'm going with Jonathan
Speaker 1: Taylor as the MVP of that team. If it's a
Speaker 1: quarterback only than Daniel Jones would have to be involved.
Speaker 1: Jared Goff some would argue, and Jalen hurts. I wouldn't argue,
Speaker 1: but the twenty touchdowns to two turnovers something else, and
Speaker 1: the insane passer rating, you know, with something else. It's
Speaker 1: just his yards are so low. It's a tough one.
Speaker 1: But all those guys set Jalen aside because it's such
Speaker 1: a unique case, have stronger MVP cases at this moment
Speaker 1: than Josh. Uh. All right, let's a couple more questions
Speaker 1: on this.
Speaker 3: You joked on Tuesday show that if the Chiefs lost
Speaker 3: the or won the regular season matchup, that they might
Speaker 3: be in jeopardy to lose the postseason matchup. Are you
Speaker 3: all worried about that with his game coming up?
Speaker 1: Well, here's what I find really interesting. This is the
Speaker 1: first time these two teams since Patrick and Josh have
Speaker 1: been there are playing in the regular season with neither
Speaker 1: one of them in first in their own division. Usually
Speaker 1: both are in first. This is the only time that
Speaker 1: neither's been in first. And I do feel that the
Speaker 1: Chiefs historically have had an edge in the playoff matchup
Speaker 1: against Buffalo Demonse because Buffalo goes all out for that
Speaker 1: regular season game and the Chiefs, to me, have a
Speaker 1: pretty vanilla game plan. They obviously want to win, and
Speaker 1: they've been important games, but a pretty vanilla game plan
Speaker 1: and try to use that regular season game as a
Speaker 1: scouting opportunity for the postseason game. I don't know that
Speaker 1: Kansas City or Buffalo for that matter, really has that
Speaker 1: luxury this matchup because neither one of these teams say
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was gonna assume with folks being hurt, like
Speaker 3: you can't get but.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's because both of these teams are
Speaker 1: in a real divisional fight. Neither one of these teams
Speaker 1: wants to be a wild card. Since Josh and Patrick
Speaker 1: have been there, they've never neither one of them ever
Speaker 1: has been a wild card like and so that where
Speaker 1: you have to start the postseason on the road. Both
Speaker 1: of these teams, I'm sure believe they are still very
Speaker 1: alive for the number one seed. The Chiefs get to
Speaker 1: play the Colts that. I don't think the Bills and
Speaker 1: Colts play each other, do They're.
Speaker 2: Both of them are going to be going going at again.
Speaker 1: I would think yeah, because it's the the Chiefs lose
Speaker 1: this game, I mean they'll be going into Week ten
Speaker 1: the seven seed. The Bills lose this game, and New
Speaker 1: England takes an even stronger hold on the division, so
Speaker 1: you it's a super important spot for both teams. And
Speaker 1: I am pleasantly surprised that the Chiefs are road favorites,
Speaker 1: like we've seen the Bills come to Arrowhead and the
Speaker 1: Bills be road favorites. The Chiefs being road favorites with
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Speaker 1: football as your Ravens once again try to keep their
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Speaker 3: I didn't tune in for the show when you said this.
Speaker 3: Did you give us like the tackle that turned the
Speaker 3: tide like a little bit thing?
Speaker 1: No, this is the our producers being funny.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: So after this one, after the spectacular go ahead, go ahead,
Speaker 4: say it, spectacular season saving snoop start, the Ravens are
Speaker 4: two and five and Lamar Jackson is officially back and
Speaker 4: understands that every game is a must win.
Speaker 3: At this point, we obviously need to win this game tonight.
Speaker 3: What do you need to see from the Ravens to
Speaker 3: feel like we can do something in the postseason.
Speaker 1: You've got to show that this defensive improvement's real. They
Speaker 1: played way better defensively against the Rams. They played a good,
Speaker 1: very good to very good defensive game against the Bears,
Speaker 1: and now you have a Dolphins team that seemed just dead. However,
Speaker 1: last week that Dolphins team tore up the Falcons, and
Speaker 1: that Falcons pass defense has been good and Tua had
Speaker 1: four touchdowns and six incompletions. Uh, they ra and the
Speaker 1: ball well Waddle got off like that's the best the
Speaker 1: Dolphins have looked in a year. And I do part
Speaker 1: of the Ravens playoffs, making the playoffs. Conversation to Mons
Speaker 1: is part of that's about the Ravens and part of
Speaker 1: that's about the Steelers and the Bengals, two of the
Speaker 1: worst defenses in the league, both two teams starting forty
Speaker 1: year old quarterbacks, one of them is now hurt. Say
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 3: I mean we're two and five right now, we're favorites
Speaker 3: to win the division. So yeah, it's just a lot
Speaker 3: of us, right.
Speaker 1: And so it's kind of we can talk about the
Speaker 1: Ravens just by being mediocre, might be able to find
Speaker 1: a way to eight wins, and eight wins could win
Speaker 1: the division. And if you're and we can throw up
Speaker 1: the Ravens schedule. If you are a Raven supporter, you
Speaker 1: have to feel like we are going to win our
Speaker 1: next four Tonight at Miami, then on extra rest at
Speaker 1: Minnesota and JJ McCarthy, then at Cleveland and Dylan Gabriel
Speaker 1: or Shadoor or whomever, and then home for the Jets.
Speaker 1: You've got to feel like we are going to be
Speaker 1: six and five going into our stretch run of four
Speaker 1: divisional games, two against Cincy, two against Pittsburgh, plus New
Speaker 1: England and Green Bay. So that is the math on
Speaker 1: the Ravens finding a way to make the playoffs. The
Speaker 1: logic demands on the Ravens actually being dangerous in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Involves the defense having a second half of the season
Speaker 1: turnaround similar to last year, and we'll see if they
Speaker 1: can do it. As far as tonight, tonight's a weird
Speaker 1: spot because we have so little regard for Miami that
Speaker 1: it feels like any short of a thirty to ten
Speaker 1: bludgeoning is going to feel unimpressive. Like, if you really
Speaker 1: want to feel good about Baltimore, Lamar in his first
Speaker 1: game back in a month, has to look sharp, and
Speaker 1: more importantly, the defense has to look excellent, Like, of
Speaker 1: course you would take a twenty eight to twenty four win,
Speaker 1: but I don't think you'd feel great about it, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I understand they just locked up
Speaker 3: the Falcons or they did what they needed to do
Speaker 3: against the Falcons, but it would be a letdown if
Speaker 3: Miami came to hug around with the Ravens, given how
Speaker 3: their season is gone.
Speaker 1: And let me throw another scenario at you of something
Speaker 1: potentially coming down the tracks here. Okay, let's just say
Speaker 1: that in these three games this weekend, the Vegas favorite holds. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the Patriots, who this weekend they're I mean they're
Speaker 1: playing who are favored against the Falcons. The Patriots win,
Speaker 1: and the Ravens, who are playing the Dolphins tonight, the
Speaker 1: Ravens win. And the Chiefs, who are playing the Bills,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs win. Okay, And I'll go ahead and add
Speaker 1: again if we're just doing the Vegas favorites hold. The
Speaker 1: Colts who are hosting the Steelers at the Steelers. The
Speaker 1: Colts win, and we're staring at going into week ten,
Speaker 1: the Ravens are three and five. The Steelers have fallen
Speaker 1: to four and four. The Patriots have improved to seven
Speaker 1: and two, while the Bills have fallen to five and three.
Speaker 1: You would be staring at the very real possibility that
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills win eleven or twelve games and are
Speaker 1: the number one wild card in the AFC. And the
Speaker 1: twelve and five Buffalo Bills first playoff game is on
Speaker 1: the road at the number four seed, the worst record
Speaker 1: of any divisional champ and they are on the road
Speaker 1: at the nine and eight Baltimore Ravens, and Josh versus
Speaker 1: Lamar in Baltimore is game one of the post is
Speaker 1: the you know, opening AFC crazy game crazy. But now
Speaker 1: let me say something else. Let's say the Bills beat
Speaker 1: the Chiefs this weekend and the Chiefs fall to four
Speaker 1: and four, they are then potentially looking at a wild
Speaker 1: card and maybe they would have to go to Baltimore
Speaker 1: in the first playoff in the wildcard.
Speaker 2: Run, Well, that'd be good for Lamar.
Speaker 3: I mean, if we beat either one of those teams
Speaker 3: going out the first round, I mean, that's the super crazy,
Speaker 3: that's the super Bowl, I mean.
Speaker 1: And so it's just if we assume the AFC North
Speaker 1: winner is going to be eight or nine wins at
Speaker 1: this point, they are going to be hosting a really
Speaker 1: good wild card team, because the best wildcard team is
Speaker 1: either going to be Bills or Patriots or whomever comes
Speaker 1: in second in the AFC West. So Chiefs Bronco's Chargers, Like,
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a potential Round one matchup. All right.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the AFC West, we've got Denver facing off
Speaker 1: against Houston.
Speaker 3: Two of the most unstoppable defenses are going head to
Speaker 3: head this Sunday. The Broncos are playing Houston. We've seen
Speaker 3: the last five quarters Broncos football, but somebody's been pretty
Speaker 3: skeptical and kind of called the positioning that they're in
Speaker 3: right now, we're gonna play it.
Speaker 1: We got a sound bite, got a sound bite, you guys,
Speaker 1: all right, let me hear it. I think there is
Speaker 1: a chance the Broncos start like four and two, and
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with a lot of chirping because they go Titans, Colts, Chargers, Bengals, Eagles,
Speaker 1: really tough, Jets, Giants, Cowboys. How many games that was that? Eight?
Speaker 1: That's eight games? So I think they you know what,
Speaker 1: I think they might be able to even start six
Speaker 1: and two.
Speaker 3: Don't care, Wow, I mean you kindled it, I.
Speaker 1: See, but I didn't. I thought that in that clip
Speaker 1: I had said they might start five and three. I
Speaker 1: didn't know I said they might start six and two.
Speaker 1: That makes me feel even better. Yeah, let's pave that
Speaker 1: for a potential Broncos spiral. Uh.
Speaker 3: You love that so so you're standing on it.
Speaker 2: You don't, You don't feel differently.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm gonna say. Bon Nicks has been
Speaker 1: awesome in the last five quarters. YEA, the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: against the Giants, which might have just wrecked the entire
Speaker 1: Giant season, and the whole game against Dallas, which obviously
Speaker 1: I got Stone wrong. That Dallas game, he's looked great.
Speaker 1: If he plays anywhere close to that level, that team's awesome.
Speaker 1: They lead the league in sacks and they allow the
Speaker 1: few of sacks. The defense is great. Now, Sir Tans injury,
Speaker 1: uh is a real one, and he's going to be
Speaker 1: out a month and that's significant. But I do think
Speaker 1: Broncos Texans is a really good bone test because the Texans,
Speaker 1: for all their struggles, have a great defense, and if
Speaker 1: Bow looks now, I think the Broncos could win that
Speaker 1: game in theory without Bowl looking good. And because I
Speaker 1: think the Broncos defense. Yeah, I mean this such a mess,
Speaker 1: right and so and Tunsl's injured Like that's a oh
Speaker 1: Tunsall's not on that team anymore. He is injured, but
Speaker 1: he's on the Commanders, So ignore that piece of it.
Speaker 1: But the so, I think this could be an ugly
Speaker 1: seventeen to thirteen game. But if bow looks good against Houston,
Speaker 1: all have to take them far more seriously. I find
Speaker 1: it very interesting that Vegas has no respect right now
Speaker 1: for Denver. The fact that they're one and a half
Speaker 1: point dogs against the Texans team that's looked decent once
Speaker 1: all year is really noteworthy to me.
Speaker 2: And so go the loss.
Speaker 3: With the loss, Houston would drop to three and five
Speaker 3: if they lost, Should they start selling some stuff with
Speaker 3: the deadline?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that's a good take. The if they win,
Speaker 1: they're in it, like this is a fork in the
Speaker 1: road game for Houston where they and Houston's weird because
Speaker 1: their wins have been dominant wins. They shut out the Titans,
Speaker 1: they beat the thirty four, they handled the Niners easily
Speaker 1: last week, and their losses have been frustrating, like five
Speaker 1: points to the Rams, one point to the Bucks, touchdown
Speaker 1: to the Jags. The Seahawks game only eight, but they
Speaker 1: were dominated in that game. They after the Broncos, they
Speaker 1: have two divisional games Jags and Titans before the schedule
Speaker 1: gets real. Tough Bill's Colts Chiefs. So Houston could be
Speaker 1: an AFC playoff spoiler as far as making the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but they have to win this game in order to
Speaker 1: do that. All right, let's go to Patriots Falcons.
Speaker 2: So the MVP race.
Speaker 3: We talked about this a little bit earlier, but it's
Speaker 3: down to three guys, Mahomes, Allen, and Drake May.
Speaker 2: May and the Patriots are going.
Speaker 3: Up against the Falcons, and it seems like they haven't
Speaker 3: exactly but on everybody's radar. But do you think that
Speaker 3: this game has the potential to kind of put May
Speaker 3: and the Patriots on everybody's radar.
Speaker 1: For sure? And I I understand Mahomes, Allen and Drake
Speaker 1: are right now the three MVP favorites. I do I
Speaker 1: think at the midway point of the season, we can't say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just these three guys. I think the
Speaker 1: MVP race can evolve over the course of the year.
Speaker 1: And I right now, I you know, Stafford has a
Speaker 1: great case, a great case and to me a far
Speaker 1: better case than Josh Allen. Drake May has a great case.
Speaker 1: And when you're a great quarterback and Drake May might
Speaker 1: be that year two is not too early to be awesome.
Speaker 1: And Lamar won an MVP in year two. Patrick won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl second year as a starter. Burrow went
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl second year as a starter. Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson won the Super Bowl second year as a starter.
Speaker 1: Like year two, you can be great already, and the
Speaker 1: Drake May has been since Week one, playing the position
Speaker 1: as well as anybody in the league now. So I
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots are better than the Colts. I
Speaker 1: think the Patriots are the third most dangerous team in
Speaker 1: the AFC. I think it was Chiefs, Bills, Pats, but
Speaker 1: I don't think they right now have that universal respect
Speaker 1: to your point, Demon's so yeah, I I think that
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for them to get it, only
Speaker 1: because they don't play anybody like all year long. They
Speaker 1: already had the easiest schedule up to this point in
Speaker 1: the season, and they have the second easiest schedule remaining.
Speaker 1: They have I think, you know, three games left that
Speaker 1: can be statement games at the Bucks home for the
Speaker 1: Bills and at the Ravens. Everything is the rest of
Speaker 1: it is Falcons, Bengals, Jets, Giants, Jets, Dolphins. So the
Speaker 1: Patriots should have a really, really good record. This is
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I picked them to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And credit to them that post Buffalo, they've really taken
Speaker 1: care of business. Beat the Saints in a game that's
Speaker 1: probably closer than they liked, and then blew out the
Speaker 1: Titans and blew out the Browns, and at Leana, I
Speaker 1: just can't get a beat on whatsoever. Such a weird team.
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Speaker 1: let's go to Vikings Lions quickly.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: So the throwing JJ McCarthy in the fire, they kind
Speaker 3: of did that soft benching and had him on the sideline.
Speaker 3: And now he's facing the Detroit coming off a buye
Speaker 3: with a paid Aiden Hutchinson who just signed a massive deal.
Speaker 2: What do you think this game is gonna look like?
Speaker 1: I think Detroit's gonna annihilate them. And I think that
Speaker 1: the Vikings are in real trouble. They clearly did not
Speaker 1: want to play JJ until he was fully healthy. That
Speaker 1: ankle's frame took a long time. They trotted Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: out there week after week even though he was injured.
Speaker 1: And I think that you know JJ McCarthy, we've seen
Speaker 1: him play two games in the NFL in two years,
Speaker 1: and he's played one good quarter. Now again, the sample
Speaker 1: size is nothing, and they have good weapons. But if
Speaker 1: I'm the Vikings, I'm very nervous about the way this
Speaker 1: season could unravel on me. And I think it's already
Speaker 1: kind of unraveling.
Speaker 3: And you see, I think Carson Wentz is gone, by
Speaker 3: the way, So it's it's just it's just JJ hare
Speaker 3: right now right?
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I mean Carson Wentz had surgery, like Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz is out for the year. Uh, but getting blown
Speaker 1: out like you did by the Chargers is really disconcerting.
Speaker 1: And they their wins this year. They beat the Bears
Speaker 1: in Week one. In the game they were outplayed, but
Speaker 1: JJ had that great fourth quarter. They beat the Bengals
Speaker 1: by a million in Week three in the first game
Speaker 1: without Burrow, and they beat the Browns in Week five
Speaker 1: on a touchdown with twenty five seconds left. Was that
Speaker 1: a London game? I'm trying to remember. Was that a
Speaker 1: London game? I feel like that was a London game.
Speaker 1: I feel like that was up early in the morning,
Speaker 1: London game, the Vikings, Vikings Browns. It was a London game.
Speaker 1: And so I think the Lions are gonna absolutely put
Speaker 1: it on them, and that might show up in tomorrow's
Speaker 1: pick show. All right, demand they want me to do
Speaker 1: a Halloween bit.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they are Halloween version of writ ends.
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Speaker 3: back from the dead, back from the tombstone Halloween bit.
Speaker 3: So it's time for you to fill in the blanks
Speaker 3: on the scariest team in the NFL, oh crap, scariest
Speaker 3: team in the NFL, the scariest players in the NFL
Speaker 3: is and the scariest move a team could make it
Speaker 3: the trade deadline would be.
Speaker 1: All right, the scariest team in the NFL. The scariest
Speaker 1: team in the NFL is obviously the Chiefs, and the
Speaker 1: scariest player is obviously Mahomes. So let me do non Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just is like that's just it's not
Speaker 1: even debatable, So let me do non Chiefs. The scariest
Speaker 1: non Chiefs team in the NFL right now is the Packers,
Speaker 1: because if Jordan Love keeps up this level of play,
Speaker 1: that defense can be so good, and he's getting his
Speaker 1: weapons back, their ceiling is crazy high. The scariest player
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now, I'm going to give again
Speaker 1: non Mahomes category to Jonathan Taylor because it just seems
Speaker 1: like he can pop for sixty yards at any given time,
Speaker 1: and that Colts offense has been unstoppable because of it.
Speaker 1: The scariest move a team could make it the deadline
Speaker 1: for me would be the Patriots trading for AJ Brown
Speaker 1: reuniting AJ with Mike Vrabel giving Drake May a legitimate
Speaker 1: number one and really going for it. So those are
Speaker 1: my answers there. All right, let's do some listener questions
Speaker 1: real quick.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Scott asked, why didn't you go to Toronto for the World
Speaker 3: Series in the Buffalo game?
Speaker 2: That that would be a nice weekend.
Speaker 1: I mean that would have been sick. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: that is true. Going up to Toronto tomorrow night for
Speaker 1: Game six and then seeing a potential Game seven, and
Speaker 1: then on the way back home stopping by Buffalo for
Speaker 1: Chiefs bills. That would have been awesome.
Speaker 2: Stadium? Would you Yeah, it'd be bad.
Speaker 1: It'd be bad. Yeah, I'd legit neate like Fox Security.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: What's Stefan's question?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Stefan asked, can we get your trade deadline?
Speaker 2: Wishless for the Chiefs?
Speaker 1: Listen, I've wanted a chan for a while. It doesn't
Speaker 1: look like they're trading him. I the Chiefs have been
Speaker 1: adamant they're not adding a running back. I'd still call
Speaker 1: about Camara, but I think they're more likely to go
Speaker 1: after a D lineman, particularly with the second round pick
Speaker 1: Omar Norman Lott tearing his acl Let's go to.
Speaker 3: Indy Indie ask, is passer rating becoming overrated? Mahomes passer
Speaker 3: rating in twenty eighteen was one thirteen point eight and
Speaker 3: that was one of the best seasons in NFL history.
Speaker 3: Right now, Jalen Hurts is a better rating than that
Speaker 3: at one fourteen point four.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. The new style of play, which
Speaker 1: is shorter passes, very very good at a void interceptions
Speaker 1: and super high completion percentage kind of cracks the passer
Speaker 1: rating code and it's made it. I agree, like it
Speaker 1: is insane that the number of guys that have a
Speaker 1: passer rating above one oh five just totally nuts. And
Speaker 1: so I still think it's a good metric, but it's
Speaker 1: not good to compare era over ERA at this point
Speaker 1: because to your point, to the uh, the questioner's point,
Speaker 1: the Indy, the no, no, no, the oh yeah the questioner, Indy,
Speaker 1: the high completion percentage low mistake but not a lot
Speaker 1: of boom plays is kind of a hack for passer rating,
Speaker 1: the way being a good rebounder is a hack for
Speaker 1: player efficiency rating in the NFL or in the NBA.
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