WEBVTT - Chiefs-Bills: Patrick Mahomes vs. Josh Allen 10, Lamar RETURNS, Bo-Liever in Broncos? | Nick Wright 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.080 Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode three eighty five. 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:07.520 As always, this episode is brought to you by our 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:11.799 great friends at boost Mobile. Demand's a great to see you, 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:15.560 great looking shirt. Weather must be gorgeous in La today, 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:17.840 even though I'm sure folks are going to be a 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:23.880 little down as the Dodgers might be frittering away this 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:28.040 world series. And I have the hottest take, the hottest 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.560 take about why the Dodgers are down three two to 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:31.960 the blue Jays. Are you ready for it? 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:33.200 What's the what is that? 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:38.239 The blue Jays are better? Oh Goo days had a 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.800 better record by one game. The blue Jays don't have 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:47.519 a massive liability, that is their bullpen. The blue Jays 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:52.640 are hot and confident and bad on ball. What'd you 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:54.160 say ball? 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:55.200 They're connecting? 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.440 Well, yeah, exactly right, but the ball and play. And 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.600 here here's the other thing we were trying to figure 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.919 out how to discuss this on for first things first today, 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:18.560 which is it is a clumsy if you will, almost topic, 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:23.080 not clumsy topic, but it's unwieldy, which is, how do 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:29.920 you square this circle that we have seen this postseason? 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:38.480 Shohei o Tani have arguably you, arguably the two greatest 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.800 games anyone has ever played in the history of playoff baseball. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:47.440 The three home run ten strikeout game and then the 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:51.639 two home run, two double five walk game. We've seen 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.080 that just in the last week. How do you square 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:59.960 that with? And other than those two games, he's been brewed, 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:05.360 like what do you what it is? It's and and 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.320 last postseason he was banged up, but he wasn't great. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.960 But you can't be like, oh, he's not a postseason 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.720 performer because he literally might have had the two greatest 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.520 playoff games ever played, uh, in the playoffs. But also 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.840 aside and this is kind of a reverse, yeah, but 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.840 aside from that, missus Lincoln, how was the play you 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.520 don't want to Yeah, but the two greatest baseball games 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.920 any of us have ever seen, arguably, But aside from that, 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:36.480 he hasn't been good. It's really weird. And so on 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.640 first things first, we determined the way we're gonna frame 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.040 it is because Bruce been calling him the boat the 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.919 best of all time? Has this postseason helped or hurt 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:49.320 his quest for that title? 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:55.320 And he's hitting you know, it's the game. It's really 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:56.919 rough on the body, dude. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.639 So I do wonder how much of it is that 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.840 is that of everyone, the eighteen inning game took the 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.320 most out of show hey, because the very next day, 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:10.000 after being on base nine times, he then also had 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:14.600 to pitch. But it's listen. I think my prediction before 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:20.120 the series was Blue Jays and seven. I think that's 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.640 still what's gonna happen because I think Yamamoto is going 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:29.079 to is gonna pitch a gym in game six. And 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:34.800 by the way, here is I wonder you throw in 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:36.920 the doc if you guys could look it up for me. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:43.480 What Yamamoto's World Series MVP odds are. I think before 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.960 the World Series he was thirty five to one. Yesterday 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.960 he was sixteen to one because if the Blue Jay, 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.800 if the Dodgers do end up coming back to win it, 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.960 he's fourteen to one now, so maybe he was, you know, 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.200 sixteen to one in some books fourteen to one. Another 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.400 Dodgers come back to win it, and Yamamoto has two 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:08.960 complete games two of their four wins. With Shohy cooling 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.760 off a bit. I wonder if he could win World 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.920 Series MVP. I mean, the smart money right now would 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.960 be on Vlad because it looks like the Blue Jays 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.880 are gonna win it. But that is that is something. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:25.120 And I've been locked in to playoff to playoff baseball 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:26.680 in the World Series. I think it's been great and 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:31.159 I'm thrilled we're getting at least six, if not seven games. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.640 So right now, Yamamoto's got the third best odds, but 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.800 it's Vladdie minus two hundred, show Hey plus two thirty, 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:42.359 and then Yamamoto at fourteen to one. All right, let's 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.600 get to straight the voicemail brought to you by our 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.240 friends at boost Mobile. One of those things straight to 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:52.279 voicemail was the Blue Jays Austin Reeves. Holy Molly, now 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.000 I saw. I think it was. I don't want to 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:58.760 get it wrong. I think Kenny Smith last night compared 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.360 this him to Jared me Lynn, which is so wildly 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:08.320 insulting to Austin. Austin's a legit excellent player, and they 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.200 called me a madman a few years ago when I 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.360 said I'd rather have him than Bradley Beal. Austin's about 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:18.279 to get that contract Bradley Beal got in Washington that 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:22.560 immediately became an albatross. Austin's been great. I do wonder 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:29.080 this and this will tell you a lot about the 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:33.080 Lakers priorities for the year, because when Luca is there, 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:40.120 Austin becomes less critical. When Luca and Lebron are both there, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:48.400 Austin becomes almost wholly redundant. Do they consider selling super 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:53.719 high on Austin to try to upgrade their perimeter defense 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:57.560 and shooting, or do they look at Austin as Luca's 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.640 running mate for the next five years. I don't know 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.760 the answer to that, And a lot of that has 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.320 to do with how good the Lakers think they can 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.520 be this season when they're fully healthy. So all that, 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.400 and then their Nick's Halloween costume. But I'm I'm not 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.320 dressing up for Halloween this year. Your little sister's going 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:17.119 as a ghostbuster, so that's pretty cool. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.320 And a little vacuum or something. 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:25.200 Well, yeah, I don't vacuum, but yeah, I mean I 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:25.719 think they. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.960 I mean, it's like a ghost vacuum or something. I'm 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.040 not sure exactly what it is, but it's pretty cool. 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:32.960 It's a it's a good costume. I like it all 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.960 right to Mom's a reminder everybody like rate subscribe review 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:40.360 to the pod. A lot to do today. I am 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.560 also a tad bit under the weather, if I'm being 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:48.920 totally honest, and so I'm going to power through. Let's 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:53.400 get to the annually the Bill's annual super Bowl, their 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.680 regular season game against the Chiefs. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.560 Uh yeah, it is super Bowl week over there in 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:03.600 Buffalo and Buffalo's home dogs this time. I know, what, 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.839 what do you think we're gonna learn more from? Or 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:07.760 which team do you think we're gonna learn more from 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:08.400 in this game? 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:18.360 So a lot here, right, and the Bills likely without 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.840 Ed Oliver, which is brutal for them. The Chiefs definitely 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.880 without their starting left tackle Josh Simmons. I do expect 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.840 him back by the way in November, but he's not 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.920 going to be there for this game. Trey Smith should 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.320 be back, which is important. Those are the maybe most 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:45.200 noteworthy injuries or absences for the Bills. The real question 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:49.520 to me is can this defense slow down what has 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.000 become the most pro with respect to the Colts, the 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:57.480 most prolific offense in the NFL. That is that that's 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.880 the question for Buffalo and for Kansas. It is actually 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:08.800 a similar question in this regard, which is the Chiefs 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:13.880 have the defense the last two weeks has been unbelievable, 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:18.600 but you're playing Mariota and you're playing the Raiders when 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:27.120 they have played legitimate quarterbacks. Those teams have moved the ball. Now, listen, 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:31.880 the Lions only scored seventeen points, but they moved the ball. 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:38.240 The Prince and the Jags moved the ball. Baltimore in 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:42.959 the three quarters, Lamar played moved the ball. Philly actually 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.160 struggled a bit moving the ball. But the Chargers move 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:51.080 the ball. So this Chiefs defense can't generate enough of 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.760 a pass rush without having to send blitz after blitz 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.800 after blitz to disrupt Josh Allen. So those are the 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:04.199 real The focus is going to be on Allen and Mahomes, 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:10.400 But as far as learning more about either of these teams, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.640 it's gonna be more about the defensive side of the game. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:19.560 But I will also say this, if I were just 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:26.480 to name a few Bill Simmons or Mike Greenberg or 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:36.600 Jim Rome or Joe Montana or Steven Ruiz or Dominique Foxworth, 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:43.240 some of these people are my good friends or colleague 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:50.640 or Colin Cowherd might mentor and dear dear friend, any 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:58.000 of a dozen people who in September or August definitively 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:03.560 declared that the best quarterback in football is Josh Allen. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:09.840 I'd be a little nervous this week because twenty some 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:14.520 million people are going to watch the Chiefs go to 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:19.360 Buffalo and what very well might be the last time 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:26.160 Mahomes and Allen ever play in that stadium, and I 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:33.000 think they're going to watch Patrick put on an absolute masterclass. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:40.320 And I understand that it was very in vogue, as 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:45.199 it is every September, and again I have been very 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:50.360 complimentary of Josh the last couple of years, but it 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:57.080 was very in vogue to just flatly assert, oh, Josh 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:01.120 Allen's the best player in the league after the first 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:08.720 few weeks of the season, and since then he's been good, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:14.400 but not great. The team has been just fine since 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:18.000 that three and zero start two and two, and right 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:22.480 now this year, the only win the Bills have to 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:27.520 hang their hat on is a Ravens win. That Ravens 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.559 win that has not I guess I think it's fair 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:36.000 to say aged amazingly because the Ravens were such a 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:40.160 mess the first six weeks of the year. And this 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.680 gets us to demands the rivalry questions. So go ahead, 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:45.120 I'll let. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.320 You yes, like like you said this is gonna be 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.880 the tenth time that they face each other, So what 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:52.400 would Allen need to do. 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.680 In this game for it to be considered a rivalry 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:55.800 or a true rivalry. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:03.520 So I under it is a rivalry. I want to 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:08.840 like I don't think it's not a rivalry. It's the 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:14.960 two best quarterbacks in the league, and it is two 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.319 of the three best teams in the league over the 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.280 last five years. I don't think you can call it 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.480 the two best teams in the league because I think 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.240 you have to get Philadelphia. It's credit. They've been to 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:31.200 two Super Bowls, they've won one, But it is It 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:39.120 is unlike any rivalry we've seen in NFL history, where 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:45.280 despite the fact that the teams are you know, in 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:49.439 any given year, even or one guy just has a 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:53.520 slight advantage. Early on when they were playing, the Chiefs 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:57.319 clearly had the better offensive weapons, the Bills clearly had 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:04.120 the better defense. The last couple of years, the Bills 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:08.920 probably had the better offensive weapons, offensive line, running back, core, 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.000 tight ends, you know, and the Chiefs might have actually 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:19.400 had the better defense. And one team has consistently won 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:24.240 the regular season matchups, and one team has won every 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:30.680 single one of the postseason matchups, and it is and I, 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.960 you know, ranted about this on the TV show yesterday, 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.480 so I don't have to spend too much time on 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:44.040 it here. But people so badly want it to be 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:49.200 Brady Peyton and it has just been nothing like Brady Peyton, 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:54.600 and it's maddening to me. Brady Peyton. 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:56.040 Was. 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:01.080 Peyton was the guy with the multiple MVPs. Peyton was 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:05.640 the guy with the crazy stats, and Brady was the 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:11.000 one with the rings in this instance. And by the way, 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:15.760 Peyton in their third playoff matchup beat Brady, and in 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.520 their fourth playoff matchup beat Brady, and in their fifth 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:24.800 and final playoff matchup beat Brady. Fact that nobody seems 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.680 to remember but me is Peyton finished the Brady Peyton 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:33.600 playoff rivalry with a winning record. He was one and 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.200 two with the Colts and two and zero with the Broncos. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:44.360 But set that aside Josh and Patrick, Josh is the 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.360 Patrick is the one with multiple MVPs. Patrick is the 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.840 one with the gaudier stats, and Patrick is the only 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:57.440 one that's ever won. So it is far closer to 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:07.800 Jordan Ewing or or lebron Toronto than it is bird 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.240 magic or Peyton Brady? 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.720 What do you like, bron Toronto is crazy. 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.280 I mean that's what it's been. I mean, that's what 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.800 that they even when Toronto had the better regular season 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.880 record than Cleveland, even when they were the favorite in 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:31.200 the series, which people will pretend to said true twenty eighteen. 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.120 Holmes has always had the gaudier stats. I feel like 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.400 some years Josh Allen has beaten Patrick Mahomes out on well. 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.720 No, I mean last year Josh was literally League MVP, 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.920 and the year before Josh had better individual numbers. But 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:50.080 I'm talking about for the totality of their careers, Patrick 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:54.080 has more passing yards, more touchdowns, fewer turnovers, a higher 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:58.200 passer rating, and no, no, no, the last two years Josh 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:04.600 has had the the better numbers, and the last two 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.960 years they've played in the playoffs, once in Josh's building, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.960 once in Patrick's. The last two years, Josh has had 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.840 the ball in his hands less than five minutes remaining 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:21.080 down three points, chance to go slay the dragon, and 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.000 the last two years the Bills have walked off the 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.760 field getting zero points from those drives, and the Chiefs celebrate. 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:31.160 I mean, that's just what's happened, and uh and so 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:38.560 I just people so badly want Patrick dabber peer and 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:44.280 he just doesn't at this point. And as far as 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:49.360 can this game change that, no could. Would the Bills 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.760 beating the Chiefs in the playoffs finally change that? Sure, 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.320 but we're far a long way from it. All right, 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.560 let's talk MVP. Uh yeah, how far. 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.320 Do you think that this game will go into side 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:00.880 in the MVP? 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:06.560 Well and also another follow up on this, could the 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.159 loser still be eligible for MVP? 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:09.960 Oh? 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.480 Yeah, I mean again, we do too much. It's week 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.080 eight or we just finished Week eight. A lot of 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.520 people are still eligible for MVP. You're not knocked out 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:24.280 of it here. But Josh's MVP case right now to 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:31.960 me is very shaky. And listen, I was on the 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:36.639 record throughout last season that I thought at the end 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:40.560 of last season he was the MVP. But right now 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:46.479 this moment, Josh's team has a good but not great record. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.320 But that's the same with Patrick. They both have five wins. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:56.240 Josh is, however, twentieth in the NFL in passing yards. 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:02.840 He is tied for fourteenth in the NFL in passing touchdowns. 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:09.679 He is ninth in the NFL in passer rating, and 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.280 you can say, well, you know, we've got to and 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.320 we do have to give Josh credit for the rushing 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.560 piece of it. So he's rushed for two hundred and 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:24.040 sixty yards and has rushed for five touchdowns. The touchdowns 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:28.080 more impressive than the yards. Obviously, on that note, Josh 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:33.600 has not up to this point played like an MVP, 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.600 and the point I was making earlier after he was 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:43.520 unbelievable in that Ravens game, and he was unbelievable in 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.360 the Dolphins game. That was the game after the Dolphins 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.720 game when Mike Greenberg said he's never seen anyone play 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:53.200 the position better than Josh Allen. Since those three game, 0:18:53.359 --> 0:19:00.320 those opening three weeks, he's been mediocre against the same points. 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.639 Threw for two hundred yards, two touchdowns and a pick 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.600 against the Patriots and a loss. Threw for two touchdowns 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.760 or two touchdowns, one pick and two hundred and fifty 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.199 three yards against the Falcons and a loss. Was bad. 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.399 Two touchdowns, two picks at seventy three rating one hundred 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.439 and eighty yards. I against the Panthers last week, didn't 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.240 have to do anything, and I mean they won forty 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:23.920 to nine. You don't hold it against it. He threw 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.280 for one hundred and sixty yards. 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:27.920 So it is. 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:35.520 Right now if we were talking NFL MVP as far 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:39.560 as not projection demons on who's going to win it, 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:47.640 but on who if the award were given out, if 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:54.720 we had a mid season MVP, better candidates than Josh 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:59.920 would be Drake May, who, honestly I think would be 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:04.560 the mid season MVP. I think right now this moment, 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.919 Drake May has you could argue, has been the MVP. 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.280 Drake has a better case. Jonathan Taylor, if we're going 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.840 to open it up to running backs, has a better case. 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:18.800 Matthew Stafford. 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:21.840 That's Baker. 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.199 Like I know, he got knocked out, but given the 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.479 totality his his season has been equal to, if not 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.440 better than Josh Allen's. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.520 Up to this point. Yes, I and so the right now, 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.919 if again, if we're voted on right now, my my 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:46.400 top five would be Drake, Stafford, Taylor, Baker, and Patrick. 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:54.800 And then I think you well, I'm going with Jonathan 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:58.119 Taylor as the MVP of that team. If it's a 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:01.120 quarterback only than Daniel Jones would have to be involved. 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:07.200 Jared Goff some would argue, and Jalen hurts. I wouldn't argue, 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:11.040 but the twenty touchdowns to two turnovers something else, and 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:14.480 the insane passer rating, you know, with something else. It's 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.440 just his yards are so low. It's a tough one. 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:23.640 But all those guys set Jalen aside because it's such 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:29.240 a unique case, have stronger MVP cases at this moment 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:34.880 than Josh. Uh. All right, let's a couple more questions 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:35.080 on this. 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:38.720 You joked on Tuesday show that if the Chiefs lost 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:41.320 the or won the regular season matchup, that they might 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:43.800 be in jeopardy to lose the postseason matchup. Are you 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:45.719 all worried about that with his game coming up? 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:50.720 Well, here's what I find really interesting. This is the 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:55.399 first time these two teams since Patrick and Josh have 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:59.760 been there are playing in the regular season with neither 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:04.360 one of them in first in their own division. Usually 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:07.359 both are in first. This is the only time that 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:13.399 neither's been in first. And I do feel that the 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:20.720 Chiefs historically have had an edge in the playoff matchup 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:27.600 against Buffalo Demonse because Buffalo goes all out for that 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:30.800 regular season game and the Chiefs, to me, have a 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.760 pretty vanilla game plan. They obviously want to win, and 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:37.439 they've been important games, but a pretty vanilla game plan 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:42.040 and try to use that regular season game as a 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:47.600 scouting opportunity for the postseason game. I don't know that 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:53.280 Kansas City or Buffalo for that matter, really has that 0:22:54.000 --> 0:23:00.320 luxury this matchup because neither one of these teams say 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:00.680 it again. 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.040 Oh, I was gonna assume with folks being hurt, like 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:04.960 you can't get but. 0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:08.680 No, no, no, it's because both of these teams are 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:11.879 in a real divisional fight. Neither one of these teams 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.920 wants to be a wild card. Since Josh and Patrick 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:18.640 have been there, they've never neither one of them ever 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.600 has been a wild card like and so that where 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.600 you have to start the postseason on the road. Both 0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:28.040 of these teams, I'm sure believe they are still very 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:32.399 alive for the number one seed. The Chiefs get to 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.520 play the Colts that. I don't think the Bills and 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:40.679 Colts play each other, do They're. 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:41.560 Both of them are going to be going going at again. 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:46.119 I would think yeah, because it's the the Chiefs lose 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:50.440 this game, I mean they'll be going into Week ten 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:54.239 the seven seed. The Bills lose this game, and New 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:58.600 England takes an even stronger hold on the division, so 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:05.199 you it's a super important spot for both teams. And 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:14.200 I am pleasantly surprised that the Chiefs are road favorites, 0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.639 like we've seen the Bills come to Arrowhead and the 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.880 Bills be road favorites. 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They 0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:37.920 played way better defensively against the Rams. They played a good, 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.120