WEBVTT - Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:01.639 Man, what's hand him? 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:01.840 Man? 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:04.560 You got Marshaan Bismall Lynch, Doug. 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:08.320 Hendrickson and Gavin Newsome and you're listening to politics. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:09.800 You're to be, you're known to be. 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.160 Hey, Marshawn and Doug. You know we got up next. 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:23.200 We got another Doug. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:25.200 Doug. How many Dougs are out there? 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:26.079 There's not many dogs? 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:27.000 What dog do? Yeah? 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.160 We got the second gentleman. I'm just telling you there's 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.320 never been a second gentleman in history. The man who's 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.400 making history but is about to make real history is 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:40.680 the first, the only first gentleman the United States of America. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:42.400 Doug Ama, Hello. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.640 Governor, what's going on? Buddy? Happy belady? Birthday? Man? 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:45.960 No? 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.839 Well, happy birthday? Is this? I think today's your official birthday? Right? 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.760 Want to talk about the age? It's too much man? 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.480 Uh well, Doug, you're my name second. Thankful I don't 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.560 hear him anywhere dougs anymore. So thank god you're a 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.360 Doug because I am any new young Dougs. 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.240 I feel like we should have met somewhere along the way. 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:07.440 By the way, Are there is that a trend? Is 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:07.720 there not? 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:12.480 Is the second gentleman? Are you inspiring? Legions of parents. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.160 To name their sons, Doug, have you seen any evidence 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:15.440 of that? 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.400 I meet so few and that when I do, it's 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.840 literally like, hey man, we got to stick together us 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:22.440 dougs because there's so few of us. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.720 There's that you're feeling a little insecure. There is no dougs. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.040 I don't need dougs anymore. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:28.360 Is that right? Yeah? 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:28.760 My god? 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.240 All right, Doug, I got one. I got the real question. 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.679 The tough question is it, you know, Martin Short or 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:39.360 Andy Samberg? Which one tell the truth? I don't need 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.640 any politician I want. I want an honest response. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.320 You know, it's interesting that Martin Short, who's way older 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.640 and shorter, but like like he actually got me. It 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:55.320 was almost like me. Samberg gets good. It's funny, it's 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.840 it's not quite me, but some of the lines are 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.400 are pretty good. And that he's got the hair down. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.920 And uh, but I know what Dancy's doing. He's like 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.919 doing this and it's saying that's the Dougie. 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.600 I'm like, come on, man, when when do you remember, 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.799 I mean, the first time you were on SNL. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.440 Come on that that had to be that. That had 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:14.760 to be a lot of fun again. 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.320 Call from all your friends, everybody opining how many years 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:18.919 ago was that? 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:19.240 That was? 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.160 Martin Short did the first first one. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.240 Right, that was I think early on in the in 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:26.880 the term. But you know, this is a show I've 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.880 watched my literally my whole life. It came out and 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.280 fifty years ago, so I was ten, and this was 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.160 something we all stayed up for and watched and throughout 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.600 the week we would literally repeat all the all the 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.920 things that we'd seen on the show that week, all 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.640 the iconic skits from way back when, and then so 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.040 this is an iconic show. And then to see yourself 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:53.520 on it, Yeah, the group chats, blow up on that 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:57.799 kind of stuff. And now with Sammer coming in, you know, 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.560 it's it's one of many surreal things that I've experienced 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:03.639 in this role. 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:05.400 I love it. I love it. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.480 But my root offh is really good and she's really 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.760 like upped her game, you know her well, Gavin, like 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.000 she came back this time. It's like, wow, she's she's 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.040 so on it. So that is she's done a really 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:18.560 good job. 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.520 And do you guys, I mean, you don't sit around 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.680 and watch this stuff. You don't have any time. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:25.679 I don't want to see her, right now. No, we 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:30.360 are like in separate places. Most of the time. We 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.560 are only focused on the selection. The only thing we 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.480 talk about right now is how we can win and 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.960 what do we need to do to make sure that 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.760 we win the selection. That's it. Not a lot of 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:44.400 happy couple time right now. It's just focused determination and 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.840 if anything is like where are you? Where are you? Okay? 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:49.080 When am I going to see you? And then we 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.000 just try to keep up a little bit and a 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.880 little bit of you know, a couple discussion, talk about kids, 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.600 maybe her grand nieces, and then it's just really, what 0:03:58.640 --> 0:03:59.880 do we got to do? What are you hearing out 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:02.080 there there? I'm all over the country, So I'll just 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:05.200 give her notes from the field, and then we just 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.200 try to use that to get the word out. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.000 I love you of a badass woman. So people my 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:11.760 clients used to tell me, said, Doug, let me get 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.600 this straight. Your wife's the CPA, your wife's an attorney, 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.080 and your wife makes more money than you. I said, 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.560 yes she does, and I'm very happy about it. So 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:24.159 I love the fact of what she's done and what 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.560 you've done. And it's a cool thing because it's something 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.560 to be applauded in my opinion, and as Marshawn knows, 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.799 he'd rather call my wife than call me for advice. 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.240 So we all know where the smarter people lie, and 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.040 that's your wife and my wife. 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:39.520 And I would say the governor's wife too. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.839 I was gonna say go Mary well too. I know 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:46.080 Jennifer is amazing. So it's to me it's like an 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.360 old school thing to support your wife. I mean, I'm 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:54.880 ferocially protective of my family, my wife, my kids are big, 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.880 blended family, and this is just a part of that. 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.760 I love being an entertainment lawyer. Was good at it, 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:06.400 I was successful. I miss it. But when we're there 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.120 for each other. So when she had this opportunity to 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.000 get on the Biden Harris ticket, it was a no 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.960 brainer to support her to be vice president, first woman 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:19.560 vice president. And it's also been fulfilling to do this. 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.520 I mean, what you guys have been together has been 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:25.000 over a decade now, right, twenty thirteen when you had 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:25.760 that blind date. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.600 Yeah, our ten wedding anniversary was the night of her 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.440 DNC speech August twenty second, so that was ten years 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.240 of marriage. We met a couple years before that. So 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.640 when I met her Gavin. She was just in her 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.080 first term as Attorney General, and you know, I knew her. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.279 I was a lawyer, so I knew her as our 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:48.960 attorney general, and she had a pretty incredible reputation as 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.760 a fearsome prosecutor and attorney general. So I got set 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:56.320 up on a blind date during a client meeting. The 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:00.480 client happened to be best friends with Kamala Harrers. And 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.680 by the end of that meeting, I had Kamala Harris's number, 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.960 and I told the story at the DNC. But that's 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:34.400 basically what happened, and ten twelve years later here I am. 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:24.279 Well, Doug, did you know right away? 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:24.600 As fuck? 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.479 Was funny when I met my wife. I met her 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.479 at some party in San Francisco and I'm like, who 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.479 is this girl? I thought she's from Sweden, some model 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.040 from Sweden. I just showed up at this party and 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:35.680 I go up and talk to her and she's like, 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.080 where'd you go to school? I said, santrans Estate and 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:39.919 she's like, oh, you guys lost to Kentucky in the 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.679 tournament a couple of years before. I said, oh my god. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.839 And then I'm like I'm done. So within thirty seconds, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.040 I'm all in. I'm like, I met my wife, called 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.880 my mom. I said, I met the new one, and 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.720 she's like, who, And I said, I don't know. All 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.479 I got is her first name. I know nothing about her, 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.360 but I'm all in. And I then pursued a little 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:00.840 bit and there I am. So did you know right 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.240 away that she was the one from that first time? 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:07.359 Yeah, this was definitely that love at first sight for 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:09.240 those old enough to watch the Brady Bunch, you know 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.480 those Bobby Brady fireworks going off in the background. This 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.560 was like And we talked on the phone for an 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.840 hour before the first date, but I picked her up 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:21.000 and it just felt like we had been together and 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.880 we're going to be together. And by the end of 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.280 that first night, we were literally already talking about the 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:29.960 future and all that stuff. So yeah, and we've literally 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.960 been together ever since that first date. And that's why 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.040 it's been tough these last couple of months. But we're 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.200 so used to being together all the time and not 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:42.560 being around each other that much. But again, there's too 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.120 much at stake to worry about that stuff now, and 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.040 we'll after the election, we'll have time for that, we'll 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:48.679 worry about. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.720 But you I mean ten years ago. 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.680 Seriously, can you ever, I know, can you ever have 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.600 imagined being in the position yard now? But were there 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.800 even did you guys even have early conversations twenty fourteen, 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:05.640 fifteen sixteen that ever even seeded the possibility that you'd 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.000 be in the position the two of you that you 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:08.800 are right now. 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.360 No, when we when we first met, like I said, 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.880 she was focused on being attorney general. She was talking 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:17.160 about running again for reelection, which she did, and I 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.000 don't think it was on a posed. And I said, wow, 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.960 politics is so easy. I didn't remember you had an election. 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.200 And then when the Senate seat came up, you know, 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.320 she went for that, and that was you know, I 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.640 was still working full time. I was in and out. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.319 I did a few events here and there, but basically 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.640 I was not that involved. And that was you know, 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.000 it was a decision that she made, and it was 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.000 something that you know, got me to d C and 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:46.240 I started coming in to DC Moore professionally. And I 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.480 think it was the rise of Trump when she decided 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.560 to run for president in nineteen it's because of Trump, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.920 and she and many other dams decided, hey, we got 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.920 to put our name out there. Somebody's got to be 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.640 this guy, and it turned out it was her and 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.880 Joe Biden who did it, and now it's going to 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.640 be her and Tim Wallace to do it again. But no, Gavin, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.560 I you knew me a little bit back then. I 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.400 was a happy lawyer. It was it was kind of 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.960 fun to be around politics, but I was every time 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.040 you and I talked, it was Hey, I'm talking about 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.560 my legal practice and that's it. So this was something 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.160 really until she got on the vice presidential ticket where 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.720 I was thrown into this full time. When I, you know, 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.839 quote unquote got into politics, and was. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.400 There did you have an option of not? Did you always? 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:33.920 I mean, was it? 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.160 I know there's no there's no rulebook for second gentlemen 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.400 that didn't come with the gig because it's unprecedented in history. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.839 But was there any prospect where you were going to 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.199 continue to work or you knew when she got sworn 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:50.080 in as VP that conflicts and all those issues. You 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.320 got to commit yourself full time to public service in 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:52.760 this role. 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.800 So I didn't. When she got on the ticket, I 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.160 didn't realize that that was my last day work ever 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.440 as as a lawyer, which I did not know that 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.600 at the time. I think once during the transition period 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:10.800 after they won the election and before the inauguration, I 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.880 think for those reasons you stated conflicts and just this 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.400 is a real gig being second gentleman to support her, 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.120 but really supporting the administration. Especially. We knew during COVID 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.240 we all had to get out there to help people 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.880 get vaccinated, and there was so much work to do. 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:30.280 That really was a full time job from the get go. 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.160 But I didn't realize that at the time when she 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.640 got that call from Biden, that that was it. That 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.640 was the last time I do what I love so much. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.880 So it was at the beginning it was a tough transition. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.120 I was really struggling to figure out the role. And 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.720 she's the one who said, look, you are the first 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.920 Jew ever they jump into the anti semitism fight. You're 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.280 the first guy ever there's gender equity issues, and of 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:00.200 course after the DABS decision that became even more so. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:02.880 And then as a lawyer, you know, we need more 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.400 lawyers doing more pro bono, so I jumped into that 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.480 as well. So a lot of this was her pushing 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.760 me to say, hey, look, you got this amazing platform, 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.240 use it. And then I think the administration saw that 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.400 I could handle myself, so I would sound like the 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.760 sixth man off the bench where I just raised my hand, 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.840 and I traveled the world. I did inaugurations, I led 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.400 presidential delegations and did all kinds of things I never 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.120 dreamed I would do in this role. And then I 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.000 teach part time at Georgetown Law School. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.679 Hey, Doug, did you trademark second gentlemen? Because obviously we 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.240 know BSMO here trademark bistmo if I can know six 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:38.880 did we trademark that? Or is it too late to 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:39.439 trademark that? 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.079 Well, let's see, let me put my business lawyer right more. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:52.559 Sean can't. I can't give legal advice anymore. Sorry, public services. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.160 But Doug, what I mean just I think you know 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.760 it goes back to what this Doug was saying earlier, 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.760 and in this this sort of you know, the being 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.080 a little bit. You know, you're as second gentleman, this idea, 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:11.559 you know, because Kamalus so omnipresent, powerful, prolific, successful, and 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.960 you had that kind of success, as you said, for 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:19.000 decades as an entertainment lawyer yourself to step back, I 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:23.320 imagine's not hasn't been easy or is it still difficult 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.600 I remember? Or now you just you're finding the role 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.080 sort of hand and glove and you're figuring it out. 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:29.960 But has it been Was there any friction? 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.600 There was there any issues around your own identity, your 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.280 own self worth and relationship to someone of her statue. 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.199 Now, I guess one of the things that attracted us 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.880 to each other was like a merger of equals. Like 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.600 even when I met her, we really looked at each 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.880 other as as equals, and we supported each other and 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.920 you know, grew our careers together. And again when she 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.360 had this unique opportunity to be vice president of the 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:01.040 United States, I had to put that aside because it 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:05.240 was more important because of our equal partnership to support her. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.920 And yes, at the beginning, it wasn't about being any 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.719 less of a man or anything like that. It was 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:14.120 just because I stopped doing something that I loved so much. 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.200 I was at the top of my game. I just 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.760 even talking to you about sports and what you do, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.120 Doug and Marshawn and all these things. And I know, Gavin, 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.840 you're interested in this. You know I miss it. I 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.240 definitely miss it, but again I follow it. I get 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:33.000 to teach it. But An, it's a great trade off 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:34.839 because look what I get to do. I get to 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:38.920 support her as vice president, hopefully as president, and then 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:43.320 I get so much fulfillment in the role substantively. And 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.720 I've gotten to travel the country, travel the world in 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.880 a way I never would have been able to do otherwise. 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:53.120 So you known, any kind of feelings I had was 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.880 just about missing what I was doing, not you know, 0:13:55.960 --> 0:14:00.480 feeling bitter or angry or salty with her anything for 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.640 oh you took me away from this, It's not not 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.000 that at all. 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.280 Well, Doug, once we do win, we can then do 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.520 some boondoggles on Air Force one. We can grab more 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.240 Sean from the movie sets, and we can go and 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:13.120 do some great trips Toga. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.320 National Fantasy Football Draft Day we're gonna have. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.080 Yeah, what, Doug, You've been doing fantasy football for what 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.200 I mean, for as long as we've been a lot 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:22.840 with thirty years or something. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.440 Night so nineteen eight. This league started when I was 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.560 a UFC law school in nineteen eighty nine. It's basically 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.120 the same, the same crew. Now most of us have 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.920 our one or both of our kids involved. So my 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.360 son Coles, now thirty, has been my partner for nine 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:43.080 or ten years, and it's the smack talk. The group 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.400 chat is off is always good, but now that I'm 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.560 in this position, you know, it's just the abuse comes 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.560 in all the time. But it's a great way to 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.440 stay in touch with my friends and a great way 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.480 to stay in touch with Cole because of course, last night, 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.040 you know, we have kid on. I mean, I'm just 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.680 texting him Kiddle second touchdown and we're just like following 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.800 our team, and it's bonds us as father and son, 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.240 and it bonds me to this group of people I've 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.080 known since the eighties and it's just really fun and 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.480 it's a great diversion from what's going on in my 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.640 life right now. So even now last night, I'm like, Okay, 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.080 that's great. Did you put the picks in for Sunday 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.040 to make sure that we are competing? 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:36.200 Well, Doug, you'll love this. 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.600 So my twelve year old son again addicted to fantasy football. 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.480 I mean, he plays this thing left and right. So 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.240 a couple sundays ago, my client Rashi Rice gets hurt 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.880 in the game and so during the game, nobody knows 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.600 how hurt us. So he's now trying to facilitrate a 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.560 trade with his buddies, and I'm like, no, no, he's going. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.240 To be out for the year. You can't trade him. 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.240 That's like inside Information's. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.760 Like insider training. There's no insider training in fantasy. 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:01.160 But they're not going to know. 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.560 I said, well, I know, Kenyon, but like it's kind 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.520 of do you really want to do that to your friends, 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.640 Like you know, I know he's probably gonna be out 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.520 for the year. He's like, well, they won't. It's not 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.160 out in public yet, so I'm gonna still trade him. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.000 So we traded him to his buddy because ESPN said 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:15.640 he might be a week to week thing, and I 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.560 knew it was probably to be longer, but he still 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.720 traded him and his buddy got mad him a couple 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:20.160 of days later. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.560 But although it's so funny, so last I was in 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.080 the finals last season, and I only won this thing 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.480 once and in year two thousand, so one time twenty 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.280 four years ago, you know, just long suffering owner in 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.080 this league. So last year we had a great team. 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.520 We made it to the finals, and I tried to 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.360 get the other team to tank, and my offer was 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.080 we will do this year's draft at the White House 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.080 if you do tank and let me win this trophy. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.000 And of course the draft was not at the White 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.640 House because they did not tank. It was more important 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.000 to kick my butt in fantasy and that's what happened. 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.280 So there's a couldn't even couldn't even sweat them with that. 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:57.520 I love it. 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.720 By the way, did you did you guys have any 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.960 sway did you pick Marshawn back in the day in 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:03.880 your fantasy football? 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.720 He always went to Yeah, he always went too high, 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:08.920 and I don't I looked. I don't think I ever 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.000 had him. And I was always hiss that I didn't 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.239 have him because I was watching him. So I went 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.080 to USC. So he was always like, why is that 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.920 guy so good for cal Man? Why? Why did he 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.920 not come to s C Marshaw Why and uh one 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:29.680 of the carol Man That's why. No, I never I looked. 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.680 I wish he was always so good. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.680 What do you mean he always had? Now I got 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.000 I'm curious. Why what what do you mean, Pete Carroll, 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:38.680 that's your guy? Come on? 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.720 Yeah? But no, not in not in college. I don't 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.800 think I was. I don't think I was ready for him. 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.160 They was having too much fun over there yeah, well, 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.840 see I rooted if they weren't playing one of my teams. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.520 I was always rotten for for coach Carol. It's funny 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.640 how a lot of sc people you see out there. 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:00.640 Look at Sam Darnold, you know, on the Viking right now. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.880 So look, I root for all the Trojans and coaches, 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.160 except if they're playing my team. 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.000 That is so Doug, You're you're you and you and 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.880 the VP or massive sports fans. So if there's if 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:14.600 it's one day in the week and there's an NBA game, 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.560 a football game, a baseball game, what do you guys watching. 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:22.359 Well, she loves her Warriors. So if she's around, and 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.879 if it's if it's for her, it's NBA over right, 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.159 like she and she loves her Warriors, man, And so 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:34.520 the Laker Warrior thing is real. The Giant Dodger thing 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:35.080 is real. 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.480 That's next level real. And by the way, that's an 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:38.440 issue for you, Doug. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:42.280 One time, Gavin, I was there's this one like stock 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.840 photo of me. We went to a giant game and 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.000 like she's like put this hat on, and it was 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:50.560 a giant hat, And of course that became the Doug 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:54.159 and Kamala picture and every time that thing comes up, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.720 I'm like, cheat that thing down, and it's all my 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:57.639 LA friends. 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.760 Like, by the way, oh, I imagine you've never gotten 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.639 her in a Dodger hat, have you. 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:04.600 I mean because that at that end of the campaign. 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:09.800 Hell no, No, it's so funny. And it's not just her, 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:13.200 it's her whole family. So it's got you know, her 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.880 extended family is now, you know, texting all the time 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:21.639 if it's any l a Bay Area matchup. But you know, 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.000 the Rams got them. The Rams got him a couple 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:24.640 of weeks ago. 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.240 That was That was Doug was she has heard as 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.040