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Kevin's waiting there patiently. 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: Seventy two Dodge Dart and a question about what Kevin, Kevin, 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back, what's going on with this car? 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: Hey? 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: Ron? 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: How you doing? 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 4: Hey? 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 5: Right now, I'm running on pump gas. It's a high 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 5: compression motor, and I'm running on pump gas, and I 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 5: don't know if I should go to a fuel additive 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 5: or a race gas mix. Do you have any recommendations there? Octane? 29 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 2: I love I love these conversations, I really do. Kevin, 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: What what compression ratio you're running in this motor? 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 5: Well, it's supposably ten to one. I bought the car 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 5: and they say ten to one. But when I do 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 5: a compression test on it, I'm about two hundred and 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 5: twenty five pounds per cylinder. 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but you see compression a compression test. Compression 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: pressure and compression ratio are two different things, and there 37 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: are no there are no reflection of what it is. 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: And then the other question is if it's a ten 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: to one compression, is it a flat top piston, doesn't 40 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: have a dome to it and all of these. 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe it was supposed to be a flat 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 5: top ten to one compression piston. 43 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: All right. If it's a flat top ten to one 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 2: compression piston, I don't think you need octane booster okay, 45 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: and let me let me, let me let me put 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: it to you this way. I base everything in my 47 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: hot rod universe off the hot rod, all right. And 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: you know I've forgotten more than I remember about playing 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: with this car currant engine. I handed the engine builder 50 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: a blank check. I said I wanted. I wanted five 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: hundred horse on the street, and I don't want to 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: have to work on it. I just just what I did, right. 53 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: I got a motor that dinoed at five point thirty seven. 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: It makes four hundred and I think it's four hundred 55 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: and ninety foot pounds of torque at fifty two PM. 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 2: It's a thumper right, runs on pump gas. I only 57 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: use Snoco ninety three, just my way of feeling better 58 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: about it. It's a single four barrel, it's nothing crazy. 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: It'll it'll scare the living daylights out of you, which 60 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: to me is the whole point of this. And you know, 61 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: I always think of what Billy said. Billy was my 62 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: first boss, and he was into performance and he was 63 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: really a genius. I think he was ahead of his time. 64 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: He was into the KZ drag bikes in the late 65 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: seventies when they were first coming out and Billy always said, 66 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: mild goes wild, and it's the absolute truth. So you know, 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: I don't think you need anything more than ninety three octane, 68 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: but you know you could surely you want to find 69 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: out run a straight mix of performance fuel and then 70 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: run you know, ninety three and go to the track 71 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: and measure it in the quarter mile and how much 72 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: stronger does it pull? And how much better does it pull? 73 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: And how much faster is the car and to what 74 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: level of consistency? And you know, you got to measure 75 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: it against something, right, right, sticker automatic car? Is it 76 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: a sticker automatic automatic? 77 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, automatic automatic? 78 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: So at least, yeah, it's it's but you know, at 79 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: least it's the consistency of the automatic, right, which is 80 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: a whole lot better. So you could, you could do it. 81 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: I don't think you need it. I don't think it's 82 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: gonna matter. And one of the reasons, and one of 83 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: the things I never liked about octane boosters was you 84 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: had to be precise in how much fuel. How much 85 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: fuel is in the tank. I don't know. It says 86 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: half a tank, Is it a half a tank? Is 87 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: it a twenty gallon tank? Is it a low side 88 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: of half a tank or is it to the high 89 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: side of half a tank? Is it twelve gallons of 90 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: fuel or is it nine gallons of fuel? How much 91 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: octane booster did you put in? You know, it becomes 92 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: a whole michig os. As Mom would say, I think 93 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: you're I think you're better off playing with spark plug, 94 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: heat range, timing, jetting, dialing it in that way. 95 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 5: And that's what I'm doing right now. I'm going down 96 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 5: on the heat range one level and right timing and 97 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 5: you know, stuff like that. So you know it's for 98 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 5: getting there. 99 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's a day at the track, right yeah, ye, 100 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: you know, and you know, for your street car, I 101 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: don't think so. I think it's quality of fuel. I 102 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: either run and like I said, I either run Sonoco 103 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: ninety three and if I can't find a Sinoco, I'll 104 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: use Shell whatever. Their high octane stuff is the highest 105 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: they have, and you know, and that's what it is. 106 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: And if I really want to torture myself, yeah, they 107 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: used to be a guy that had Camp two available 108 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: by the He couldn't pump it. You had to put 109 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: it into the five gallon can and then you pour 110 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: the five gallon can into the side of your hot rod, 111 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: and you felt good about it, and like, oh that's 112 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: really cool. You know, you know, you never you never 113 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: went anywhere anyway, So what difference did it make? 114 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 4: You know? 115 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: You spilt half to you spilt half the camp too 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: down the side of your beautiful paint job, and you 117 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: got all upset and you said, well, I guess I'll 118 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: never do this again. And you know because the gas 119 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: tank leaks. Yeah right, there was three drops. You just 120 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: you went broke just watching it. So but I get 121 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: it one hundred percent. What stall converter did you put 122 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: in this car? I remember this car. Now you're talking 123 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: to me about that, Yeah, right, And I think that's 124 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: I think that's more than enough. The original hot Rod 125 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: Black Run Black one ran a forty two hundred stall 126 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: speed converter. It was the nuttiest thing I ever put 127 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: on a street car. You know, you pull up to 128 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: a traffic light at four grand and you just release. 129 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: It would be just you'd come off on the red 130 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: limit or just about it, just crazy stuff you'd get 131 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: right up there. So now you don't need an octane booster, Kevin, 132 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: do something else to get performance and consistency. You know 133 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: what horsepower and going fast isn't about how much can 134 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: you make It's about how consistently can you make it? 135 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: Right. 136 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 5: I'm just worried about the running good, you know, detonation 137 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 5: and stuffing like that. 138 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: Right, Well, if it's a true ten to one, if 139 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: it's a true you know, if it's a true flat 140 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: top piston on today's gas ninety three, you won't have 141 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: it if it's jetted right and timed right. 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 5: So all right, Ken, good bron I appreciate your conversations every. 143 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: Every time, Kevin. You know what, I appreciate what you're 144 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: trying to do. You live, you live your life, enjoy 145 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: your hot rod. Sooner or later you're gonna come to 146 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: the conclusion that you don't have to go that fast anymore. 147 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: But that's okay, God bless. 148 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 5: Don't go fast quick short distances, yeah, just short distances. 149 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: You know. Listen, you know what there's still it's do 150 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: you ever feel like as hot rotters? I'll tell you 151 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: a quick story. Tuesday night last week, Shelby Jimmy invited 152 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: me to his house out on the deck with his 153 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: car group. Now I'm the youngest guy in the car group, 154 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: and we're watching Two Lane Blacktop, right, And I had 155 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: to explain it to everybody because nobody understood it as 156 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: far as you know, what the car culture was in 157 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: the sixties. And I'm trying to figure this out. How 158 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: the youngest guy in the group is explaining it to 159 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: the older guys in the group that actually went through 160 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: the car culture of the late sixties early seventies, and no, 161 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: he understands it. And they're like, where's all the drag racing. 162 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, there is no drag racing in this movie. 163 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: It's it's so limited. It's just talking about the counterculture 164 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: and the way things were, and it was just just 165 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: a different time and a different period. It's it's it's got, 166 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: it's got the plot of you know, watching Paint Dry 167 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: would be a more exciting plot than watching Two Lane Blacktop. 168 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: But you watch it because of the couple of cars 169 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: that you see and and and the way it was, 170 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: and you know, and what's my point. My point is 171 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: cars have changed a lot, right, It's it's the idea 172 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: of hot rotting. And sometimes I think we're like the 173 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 2: last Jedi, right, you know, it's like Star Wars. We 174 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: we are the last jedi. We we we are carrying 175 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: the torch of a generation that is long gone, and 176 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: the light is all but out, and nobody understands it anymore. 177 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: It's it's kind of depressing. I go, I go, I 178 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: go around on the hot rot. 179 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 5: Say again, we had the high beam switch on the floor. 180 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, we had the high beam switch on the floor. 181 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: We have the keys that you turned. You know. I 182 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: go out in the hot rod and nobody even, you know, 183 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: they look at me. Out Here comes that old man 184 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: in that noisy car again. You know, it's just it's 185 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: just the cops don't pull you over. You don't get 186 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: to meet the police like you did when you were 187 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: a kid. It was just just just a completely different time. 188 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: So all right, I gotta go, Kevin, You'll be ware day. 189 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: Thank you you too, sir. Eight five five five six 190 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running any in the car. Doctor. 191 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: A little craze today, but good form anyway. I'll be 192 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: back right after this. And I just just to comment 193 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: one last thing about Kevin and his hot rod, what 194 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: he's doing, what he's going through, dialing in in the 195 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: carburetor and jetting. When we did that as a society 196 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: when we jetted carburetors and played with hot rods to 197 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: that level, we understood how things worked mechanically to a 198 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: finite point, and it was just just a very different time. 199 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: I can't explain it other than you know, it gave 200 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: us an understanding of how something worked versus today. Today 201 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 2: we're trying to follow electrons and follow the electron of 202 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: the bouncing ball. It's not that easy. So but kudos 203 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: to Kevin and everybody out there that's still a Jedi 204 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: trying to make a hot rod work. Greg and Florida 205 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: seventy five Chevy Man. What could be wrong with this? 206 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: How are you today? Greg? 207 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 4: I'm doing okay? How are you all right? 208 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: What's going on with this? 209 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 4: Okay? It's three point fifty automatic with the quadrajet carburetor, 210 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: and it's flooding when the engine's hot it after since 211 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: ten or twenty minutes after it's been shut off, it 212 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: gets flooded. 213 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so flooded, flooded? How how do you know it's flooded? 214 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: And I realized that's a generic question, but it's gonna 215 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: help me. Do you how do you know it's flooded? 216 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: You have to hold your foot to the floor to 217 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: clear it out. 218 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: That's right. To get it restarted, I have to hold 219 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: it wide open till it. 220 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: Okay, and then it puff of black smoke and yeah, 221 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: that's it, right, Okay, seems like I've seen this fan. 222 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: So you know, you've got the dog house off, you've 223 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: got the air cleaner off. You're watching the carburetor. Does 224 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 2: the car boil over? Does it flood over the top 225 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: or you never see any fuel? You just ended up 226 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: with a flooded engine twenty minutes later, and you can't 227 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: figure out where it's coming from. 228 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of hard to see the carburetor, even 229 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 4: with the doghouse off. It's kind of restricted area to 230 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: get to it and look at it. Right, right, I've 231 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 4: had this saying eleven years and I've been messing with 232 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: it that long, trying to solve the problem. But I haven't. 233 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So in seventy five, I'm trying to remember what 234 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: seventy five looks like. As long as there's no charcoal 235 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 2: canister tie in, that's you know somewhere. I'm trying to 236 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: remember what year. I think it was the early eighties 237 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: when the purge valve problem happened. When they put the 238 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: purge valve up on top and it would go bad 239 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: and it would draw a fuel right from the tank. 240 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: So I don't think that's your issue. So as long 241 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: as we don't have any heavy canister purge lines going 242 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: up to the carburetor causing the issue, I'm going to 243 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: tell you if you don't see the carb flooding out 244 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: over the top, all right, And this is why I 245 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: want you to be able to get to the top 246 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: of the choke flap to look at it. You know, 247 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: do you see fuel or is there fuel going down 248 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: inside the throat that it's peeing up past the needle 249 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: and seat? All right? If it's nothing like that, then 250 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to start to think that if you pull 251 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: the carburetor off. There are two solder plugs in the 252 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: bottom of the carburetor, and nobody ever thinks of these, 253 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: all right. Those two solder plugs were when they manufactured 254 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: the carburetor. That's how they drilled the ports for the 255 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: main jets, and then at the factory they just dripped 256 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 2: some solder in there and they sealed them up. Well, 257 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: fifty years later, those solder plugs have rattled loose and 258 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: they're draining the floatball, and that's where your fuel is 259 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: coming from, and you'll never see it. So the way 260 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: you're gonna find this is if you determine, and this 261 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: is why I want you to get to the top 262 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: of the carburetor, if you determine that it's not flooding 263 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: over the top and it's not dripping past the needle 264 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 2: in seats such as the fuel is boiling because fuel 265 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: fuel today is very different than it was in nineteen 266 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: seventy five. Okay, as long as we know the carburetor is, 267 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: for lack of a better way to say it, mechanically 268 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: sound and not boiling over through the throat. The only 269 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: other place that fuel can be coming from is out 270 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: of the solder plugs in the bottom of the carburetor. 271 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: And you're going to take the carbout, you're going to 272 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: just leave it on the workbench. What I actually do 273 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: is I'll take a re eights bolt or a five 274 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: sixteen's bolt and put it through the mounting holes where 275 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: the carb mounts to the manifold, and I'll make like 276 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: a little stand. If you get what I'm saying, I'll 277 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: use a I'll use a shoulder bolt. So if there's 278 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: a gap of a one in shoulder. I'll put a 279 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: nut lay the carburetor on that in all four corners. 280 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: I'll put a nut on the top so that it 281 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: stays in place. Now I've elevated it so I can 282 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: actually see the bottom of the carb in action. I'll 283 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: put a little bit of fuel in the vent hole 284 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: up top. I won't overfloot it because I don't want 285 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: to make a mess, and I'll let it sit overnight. 286 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: And if I come back in the morning, and in 287 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: your case, it sounds like you're gonna see it real 288 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: obvious if I see if I see those solder plugs 289 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: are wet, you know, you just touch it with your 290 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: finger and there's fuel there. There's not supposed to be 291 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: fuel there. The solder plug is legan making sense. 292 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, I've already tried that. I've inspected the 293 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: solder plugs. It looks like they've got JB. Welld on them. 294 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: And uh, I don't think I put that on there, 295 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 4: but somebody did. But I've done what you like you said, 296 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: put fuel in the bowl and let it sit on 297 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 4: the bench and nothing comes out at. 298 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: The bottom and it's dry. 299 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I'm pretty sure it's not leaking out the bottom. 300 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: Okay, If it's not leaking out the bottom, then it's 301 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: got to be coming from the top. Carburetor is the 302 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: only place that fuel is coming from, you know? Is 303 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: the needle shut off? Do we have a saturated float? 304 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: Have you ever weighed the float? 305 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 4: I'll put a new float in it. 306 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: Okay. Have you tried a different carburetor? 307 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: No, I haven't tried a different one? 308 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: All right? You know, have you sent that one out 309 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: to be rebuilt? Because when a rebuilder rebuilds it, he'll 310 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: go through all these tests as well as flow it. 311 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: He'll actually measure fuel flow through it. He'll look it 312 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: shut off, he'll look at boil over, he'll actually go 313 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: through that carburetor. And it might be something you just 314 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: can't fix in the field at this point, because there's 315 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: no other place that's coming from. Like I said, if 316 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: there's no canister perge leading up to it, such as 317 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: the canister is saturated to the point that somehow it's 318 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: pushing fuel, which in seventy five I don't think it's possible. 319 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: Carburetor is the only source of fuel that's gonna make 320 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: it flood out like that. Do this out of curiosity 321 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: if you shut it off and open the throttle. See, 322 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: you need to be able to look down inside. If 323 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: you took a mirror and look down in the throat, 324 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: do you see fuel dripping? Or before you go to 325 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: start at twenty minutes later, do you see fuel collected 326 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: on the intake manifold floor? 327 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never seen any fuel on the outside of 328 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 4: the carburator. And I've tried to look in it while 329 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: it's sitting there hot and you can't. 330 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the next up for you, Greg is 331 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: it's either send it out to get rebuilt and flowed 332 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: or try a different car, because you've tried everything else 333 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: from what you're telling me, So do those things. Call 334 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: me back. I'll be around next week. You're very welcome, sir. 335 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: EIGHTHFI five five six zero nine nine zero zero. We'll 336 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: return right after this. And we're back eight five five 337 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: five six zero nine nine zero zero. Let's go to 338 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: Beth in Florida. Oh eight Kia, Beth. What's going on here? 339 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 3: Well? 340 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 6: And so two thousand and eight Kia Rondo And it 341 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 6: is only one hundred five thousand miles on it, and 342 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 6: it's not a lot of miles considering it to two 343 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 6: thousand and eight, but the air conditioner has broken down 344 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 6: three times. The first time was in twenty eighteen. It 345 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 6: was the compressor, and the second time was twenty twenty 346 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 6: three and it was the evaporator, and now it's the 347 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 6: compressor again. And I'm getting some really steep ideas or brother. 348 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 6: People are telling me it's between sixteen hundred and two 349 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 6: thousand dollars for the new compressor, which seems to me 350 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 6: like a lot of money. And I guess what I'm 351 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 6: weighing right now is should I get it fixed and 352 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 6: continue driving it or should I invest in maybe another 353 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 6: used car because I can't afford these terrible prices for 354 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 6: new cars. 355 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: Right right, you know, it's a great question. First of all, 356 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 2: let's let's get this clear between us. This is roughly 357 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: a fifteen year old car. 358 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 6: Right right, a little older, Yeah. 359 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's fifteen sixteen years older, one hundred 360 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: thousand miles on it. So let's say it's two thousand 361 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: dollars to fix the air conditioning. What if six months 362 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: from now the transmission fails, would you fix it? 363 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 6: Yes, that's true, right. 364 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: That's that's another question. The second is, you know, repetitive 365 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: compressor failure. Are you buying new compressors or remand compressors 366 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: rebuilt compressors. 367 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 6: Well, we're supposed to be new. The first one was 368 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 6: seven hundred. The evaporator was eighteen hundred, and I'm still 369 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 6: paying for that. And this compressor is supposed to be new. 370 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 6: And one guy says sixteen hundred, and the other one 371 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 6: is saying around two thousands. 372 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: Is this the Kia dealer or a private Is this 373 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: the Kia dealer or a private garage? 374 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 6: Private garage says sixteen hundred, tiers plus says two thousands. 375 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: Right. You know. The other thing when a compressor fails, 376 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: and depending upon how it fails, sometimes it's a good 377 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: idea to also replace the condenser because the condenser gets 378 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: the debris of the compressor. If the compressor implodes or 379 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: has mechanical fil failure, it will push some of its 380 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: particles up line, and the condensers the first one to 381 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: take the hit. So you know, Mike, Mike, My one 382 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: question I'm thinking to myself is since twenty eighteen, how 383 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 2: many miles have you gone? Because you have you don't 384 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: drive a lot, I can tell, so you know, is 385 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: it is it ten thousand miles twenty thousand miles. Probably not. 386 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: I bet you went twelve fifteen thousand miles in seven 387 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: years as a guest about yes, right, so you know, 388 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: are we dealing with quality of part? Are we dealing 389 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: with something else? Is wrong with the system? Who normally 390 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: services the car? 391 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 6: Beth a gentleman in a private garage? 392 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: Right? And is he is he one of the guys 393 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: quoting you on the compressor? 394 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 6: He is? And the evaporator was done by a private corporation, 395 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 6: not corporation by the mom on top. And then the 396 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 6: second is the sixteen hundred first one must see evacuator 397 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 6: and they did that, and then the mom and pop 398 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 6: and then the second one. Here is the compressor for 399 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 6: sixteen hundred dollars by the private. 400 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: Private. 401 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: You know, here's the Here's here's where that relationship with 402 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 2: the mechanic comes real handy, because it becomes you know what, uh, 403 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: you know what would he do and talk to him? 404 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: He knows the condition of the car better than anybody. 405 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 2: And I would also bring up to him, you know, 406 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: how did the compressor fail? Is it an electrical failure? 407 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 2: Is it the clutch itself? Or is it a mechanical 408 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: failure of the compressor. And if so, do we need 409 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: to change the condenser? Okay, right, and yeah that would 410 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: be an additional expense, but it would prevent problems. I'm trying. 411 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: I'm looking for a repeat problem scenario. What's causing your 412 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: repetitive issue? Right? It sounds like the evaporator was a leak, 413 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: as it usually is. You know, the compressor is the compressor, 414 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's And like I said, the other 415 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: part of this conversation has to be before you put 416 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five hundred three thousand dollars into this, if 417 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: the transmission failed in six months, what would you do? 418 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 6: I would be walking, no kidding, a force to buy. 419 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: So you know, maybe maybe now's the time to forego 420 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: the AC repair and start looking at a secondary car. 421 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: Drive this one until you can afford something better. 422 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 6: Right, Okay? I want to ask you about this car. 423 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 6: A friend had one of these and I fell in 424 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 6: love with it. It's a Toyota Selera. Are those good cars. 425 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: As a rule, Yeah, Toyota is a pretty good car. 426 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: The Celera is a pretty good car. That's the convertible 427 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: version of the camera, correct, Yes, yeah, yeah, they're fun cars. 428 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: If you can find one. They're hard to find, especially 429 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: in good condition. But we've got a couple of customers 430 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: with them and they enjoy them. I enjoy driving them, 431 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: you know, with the top down. It's just a fun car. 432 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: Especially I could imagine it in Florida right with all 433 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: the sunshine. So but you know, mileage dictates, you know, demand, 434 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: mileage dictates do I want it? You know, if it's 435 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: a twohny thousand miles Selarira, No, If it's a fifty 436 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: thousand miles Seleari, Yeah, it's worth looking at. But I 437 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 2: think as a lateral move it would be worth investigating. 438 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: But the one thing I want to leave you with 439 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: is I get concerned when we're bouncing from garage to garage. One. 440 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 2: I'm a one cook in the kitchen kind of guy, 441 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 2: and it makes it easier on you. And you know, 442 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: sometimes another guy is going to be cheaper maybe, but 443 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 2: that money you save is going to come back to 444 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: bite you somewhere else. I feel like on order repair 445 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: and to have that relationship with the one guy and say, hey, 446 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: you've been my mechanical all along. You know what do 447 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: you think going on? It's a trust thing. See to me, 448 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: trust and honesty is a big deal in order to repair, right, right, 449 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 2: So it's the biggest So I would encourage you to 450 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: look at that too. 451 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 6: Okay, the one that I am looking at now sixteen 452 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 6: hundred you know, that's cash out, and the others I 453 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 6: put on the initial back back in twenty eighteen, that 454 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 6: was cash. But the one two years ago was on 455 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 6: a credit card. It was eighteen hundred dollars now at 456 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 6: thirty five percent interest, and it hasn't been paid off yet, 457 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 6: and I think I were one thousand dollars on it. 458 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 6: And so you know, Destato, the one that I like 459 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 6: doesn't take credit, so it's got to be sixteen hundred 460 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 6: dollars cash out again. Meanwhile, I paid for the other 461 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 6: air conditioner repair, right, I'm. 462 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, No, I get it, I get it. It's 463 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: it's it gets to the point where, like I said, 464 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: you know, how much further do you want to go 465 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: on an older car? 466 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 6: What if we're to get Scelera? What good year is 467 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 6: there for a used Selera? 468 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: They're all good, but again, conditioned mileage, how well was 469 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: it cared for maintenance? I would tell you to buy 470 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: the newest one you can afford. Is really how I 471 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: would approach it, all right, and then it make them. 472 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: I don't think they made them beyond certain years. Like 473 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 2: I know most of my customers are driving their six 474 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: is O sevens, and I think ones and O eight 475 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: So I don't think you're going to find like a 476 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen celerity. To be honest with you, I haven't 477 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: paid that much attention to it. We haven't seen a 478 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: lot of newer ones. But the convertible cameras were kind 479 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: of a rarity, so uh, you know, I think it's 480 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: it's again, as I said, not to be repetitive, but conditional, 481 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: dictate what you want to buy. But I think you're 482 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: better off looking for a second vehicle or another vehicle 483 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: and replacing the Kia before you spend much more money 484 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: on it, because, for example, I've got to believe a 485 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 2: Celia is going to hold up better long term than 486 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: a Kia, especially at this age in mileage. So good 487 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: luck to you, Beth. Let me know what you would 488 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: end up doing. I'm here for you if you need me. 489 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: A five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 490 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 2: We're back right after this. Ay A five five five 491 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero. On eating the car, doctor. 492 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: Let's go over to Sam in Arizona, three buicle saber. Sam, 493 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: what's going on? How can I help? 494 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 3: So? Thanks to taking my call, got a question regarding 495 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: advice oxygen sensors. So I have my rear exhaust better 496 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: or manifold loss that replace the baskets? Should I replace 497 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 3: the aucygen sensors since I have it out because it's 498 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty thousand miles, but they look good 499 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: and they seem a lot better than the offer market. 500 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: So what's available now? 501 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 7: Though? 502 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: Well, you know, can you still get and I think 503 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: I think you probably still could get delkos for it? 504 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: I would you know? They're off, they're they're accessible, all right? Uh, 505 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: they're cheap, right? How much is an O two censor? 506 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: Thirty five forty fifty bucks. They're not a lot of 507 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: money anymore? Single wire H Two's right? 508 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: I think they're two? 509 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: Okay, even so you know you have access, you have 510 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 2: access to them now, all right? 511 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: Oh? 512 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 2: Two censors? 513 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 3: Oh? 514 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: Two censors do wear out and degrade over time, all right, 515 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand miles. As long as you 516 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 2: change both, as long as you can get you know, 517 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: decent quality. And I don't mean something on Amazon that 518 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: you know, is it really a Delco or is it 519 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: you know, because the Amazon Orto parts are a whole 520 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: nother story. Always I'm always concerned about counterfeit stuff. But 521 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: if I can get real GMS for it, yeah, I 522 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: think now's the time. It's you know, looking at looking 523 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: at them doesn't necessarily tell you. You know, it's funny. 524 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: We we we still talk about two sensors in their 525 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: simplest form in training classes, and the instructors still browbeat 526 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: us with it. Would take a lab scope and you know, 527 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: X number of hours have set up to really look 528 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: at cross counts and cycle and high limit low limit, 529 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: and we can't really test them correctly. That's why we 530 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: leave it up to the computer. So you know, and 531 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: O three is it testing them? Yeah? Are they okay? Sure, 532 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: there's no there's no fault for it. There's no check 533 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: engine light, right, you know, when when? When? When does 534 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: that happen? And the fact that it's off and it's 535 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: it's in your hand and you know, will it come 536 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: out at two hundred and fifty thousand miles, Well you're 537 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: gonna find out. Yeah, Okay, now's the moment. So second question, 538 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: quick question. 539 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, so is it possible to code the missile the 540 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 7: car computer to change the delay on when. 541 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: The lights go off after you turn the car off. 542 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: It's like twenty but I like to bump that to 543 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: a minute. Is that possible? It's a code scanner. 544 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: Not with a code scanner. If it's available with anything, 545 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: it would have to be a factory level scan tool, 546 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: which in three was likely a Tech two, right, and 547 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: it would it would have to have been an option 548 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: inside the b CM if I recall correctly, and I 549 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: don't know that it's there. 550 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: How do you run that down? Only GM knows well. 551 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: It would be plugging a scan tool, literally plugging a 552 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: Tech two and look for it and see if it's 553 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: listed as an option. Now that that being said, in 554 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: this day and age, do I think there's somebody out 555 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: there that's a programmer that's probably written a program to 556 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: do it? Yeah? Probably? How do you find it? The 557 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: Google machine? Right? 558 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: Right? 559 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: Uh, you know see what, see what it comes up with. 560 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's you know, it's it's it's a valid point. 561 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes you want to change some of those options, and uh, 562 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: you know, somewhere I think seven eight GM got smarter 563 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: and They did make it as an option to us 564 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: in the Bays, but the early ones not so much. 565 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: Not so much. And that's why I always say, you 566 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: got to you gotta look in the scan tool and 567 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: see if it's there or not. 568 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 3: So all right, you think only manufacturer scan tool, not 569 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 3: an aftermarket Yeah, Manu. 570 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: I think only manufacturer scan tool absolutely. I mean you 571 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: could look, you could try, but I don't think you're 572 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 2: gonna see it. I don't think you can see it. 573 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: You're very welcome, so you'd be well be welcomed. Bye 574 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: bye A five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 575 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: We're back right after this. Come to this right the 576 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: final minutes, and yep, here we are. Let's do a 577 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: piece of email. Hey 'ron home based in Maine. I'm 578 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: gonna paraphrase this. We love the Car Doctor on Sunday 579 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: mornings on radio station w VOM and Augusta. This comes 580 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: to us from miles. My wife and I have a 581 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five cameraon hybrid we bought last winter. We 582 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: use it in Florida. We're down there about six months. 583 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: My brother in law lives down there and tries to 584 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: keep an eye on the place while we're up north 585 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: for the summer. He starts the camera once every couple 586 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: of months to be sure the starting battery is charged. 587 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: The last time he tried to start the car, the 588 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: starting battery was dead. We knew soon after we got 589 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: from the car, and from when the owner's manue of 590 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: the charging the battery might be a problem. I wanted 591 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: to put a trickle charger on it. However, the manual 592 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: states that the negative cable, which also has other vehicle 593 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: system negative cables attached to it, needs to be removed 594 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: from the battery before charging. Then, in another place in 595 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: the manual, it states that if the starting battery is 596 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: disconnected the car's electrical system, it may deprogram something in 597 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: the vehicle's computer system. So I think you see the 598 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: delimma here. The possibility of deprogramming of the computer seems 599 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: to be inevitable whether I move the battery cable from 600 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: the car in Florida in the spring or when I 601 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: get back on the floor in the fall. Of course, 602 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: the owner's manual may be exaggerating the deprogramming thing. I 603 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: want to know why they're telling you you can't do that, Miles. 604 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: You know, I know a lot of people that are 605 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: trickle charging batteries over time on vehicles such as this 606 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: in this situation, and I think I think I would 607 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: probably count on what the dealer themselves have to say. 608 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: I know what I would do. I would put the 609 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 2: trickle charger on it and leave it as a slow 610 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: charge until somebody comes up with a reason. Otherwise, I 611 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: would also actually research it, and I wouldn't just take 612 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: the owner's manual as my b all and end all answer. 613 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: So I think it has to be a problem that 614 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: you present to the Toyota dealer and see if you 615 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: can find somebody there knowledgeable that's not going to just 616 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: read the script and come up with a solid answer. 617 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: I think doing a trickle charge unless they've got a 618 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: particular module they're trying to protect or a specific reason 619 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: for saying that that doesn't work, I think you're okay. 620 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: I think it's okay to trickle charge it. I think 621 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: that you know this deprogramming. They're worried about the adaptives, transmission, 622 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: shift point and fuel trim, you know, compensation and some 623 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: of the other things that the vehicles do today that 624 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: you know are learned, the learned values. That's what they're 625 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: talking about for deprogramming. It's not that it's going to 626 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: deprogram the operating system and run. It might take fifteen 627 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: or twenty miles of operation for it to learn how 628 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: miles drives the car so that it can operate to 629 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: its peak performance. So that's not my concern. My concern 630 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: would be can I hook up a trickle charger and 631 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: leave it in place for a long period of time? 632 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: I say yes, I want somebody to tell me why no. 633 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: I hope that does it. I'm running Ady in the 634 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: car doctor till the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, 635 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: they're priceless.