1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: If it's between you and me, I'm going to be winning. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: It's that fight, it's that mentality, it's that drive to 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: want to be successful and compete constantly. It's somewhat easy 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: to get to this level and you think you've made it, 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: but what actually keeps you here is having that mentality 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: and that drive to want to be the best every 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: single day, and that's how you can stay here. You 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: made it, but now the work, the hard work, really begins, 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: and you have to continue to have that growth mindset 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: and wanting to get better and be the best every day. 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: And if you have that mentality, you will stay and 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: have a long career. But if you don't have that 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: willingness and that drive, it's going to be a tough road. 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: Season nine. When did this happen? 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: Emily A body here coming to you from the Age Studio. 16 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: You are listening to episode one ninety seven of Hurdle, 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: a wellness focused podcast where I connect with everyone from 18 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 3: your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about 19 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: their highest highs, toughest moments, and everything in between. We 20 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: all go through hurdles in life, and my goal through 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours 22 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: and move with intention so that you can stride towards 23 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: your own big potential and of course have some fun 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 3: along the way. 25 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: Wow. 26 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: That is like the word that I will use to 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: summarize exactly how I feel in this moment. 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: I'm excited, I'm amped. 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to all of the great content that 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: is coming down the pipe for the ninth season of 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: the show. Jeez, every time when I say something like that, 32 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: I come back to this idea that I had no 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: clue what I was getting into from the get go, 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: and I never expected to have thousands and thousands and 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: thousands of people listening to this on the regular. But 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: here we are, and I could not be more proud 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: of everything that this community has become. I am so 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: electrified today because for episode one ninety seven, this season 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: nine premiere, I am chatting with pro soccer great Ali Creeker. 40 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: We are talking about all of her unreal accomplishments from 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: her sixteen year career thus far, including the top hurdles 42 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: along the way, involving injury and essentially being fired from 43 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: the US women's national team for about two years. 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: She also shares the. 45 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: Joy that she felt returning to the team in twenty 46 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: nineteen and the elation that came with getting her one 47 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: hundredth cap, which in soccer lingo is how many international 48 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: matches a player. 49 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: As we're taken in, we also. 50 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: Talk about her being a huge advocate for the lgbtq 51 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: A community at something that she's super passionate about, alongside 52 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: her now wife and teammate Ashlyn Harris. 53 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: And speaking of Ashland, she gives. 54 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: Some insight as to what it was like for the 55 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: couple when they came out to their teammates their coaches, 56 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: being honest about a little bit of hesitancy at first, 57 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: Plus she shares her best advice for anyone who may 58 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: be feeling some kind of way about coming out as well. 59 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: I am amped that Ali is now based in the 60 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: New York area playing with Gotham FC. I am looking 61 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: forward to personally finally being able to go watch her 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: play IRL And I'm really really grateful for her time 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: and her energy and for giving me an opportunity to 64 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: chat with her for the show. I am also I 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: feel like I've said the word excited in this intro 66 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: like a handful of times already, but this is the 67 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 3: energy that I am coming into season nine with I 68 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: am am for the Hurdler event in DC next week. 69 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: If you were listening to this in real. 70 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: Time, I'm going to be giving a talk at Hotel 71 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: Zena on Wednesday at March sixteenth. I would love to 72 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: see you there. We just opened up some more spots. 73 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: I will link the event right in the show notes. 74 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: Also really looking forward to the Hurdle Huddle at the 75 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: end of the month here in New York. That event 76 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: is sold out, but I promise that it will not 77 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: be a. 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: One and done. 79 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: This is something that I'm looking forward to bringing it 80 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: to many cities fingers crossed in the months going forward, 81 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: including another round in New York. So stay tuned for 82 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: more invite on upcoming hurdle events. 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The link 89 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: to subscribe to that is also in the show notes. 90 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: And last little bit. 91 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: Of housekeeping, I said, make sure you're following along with 92 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: the Hurdle Instagram over at Hurdle Podcast. If you are 93 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: following there, tomorrow you're going to see a really exciting 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: giveaway with some of my great partners to celebrate the 95 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: launch of season nine. So make sure you're following to 96 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: stay in the loop. Trust me, you're not gonna want 97 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: to miss this. 98 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: I'm over on. 99 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: Instagram as well at Emily a Body. And with that, 100 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 3: let's kick things off. Let's get to hurdling. 101 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: Today. 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: I am sitting down with Ali Kreeger. She is a 103 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: pro soccer player an Olympian. How you doing today, Al. 104 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm great. Thanks so much for inviting me. This is 105 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: such a dream to be here. 106 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: Oh man, a dream. 107 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: Lush A spoiler alert. I'm kicking off the new season 108 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: of the show with you. Oh wow, no pun intended 109 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: with the words kicking off. 110 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: Well, you're welcome, welcome. 111 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: I'm so amped. 112 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: I'm so amped to have you here and I want 113 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: to be the zillionth person to welcome you up to 114 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: my neck of the woods. You and I are both 115 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: in the New York area. Now, congrats on your new 116 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: chapter with the Gotham. 117 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's been such a great adjustment 118 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: for us and such a change. I still haven't gotten 119 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: warm yet, so I don't know if that's ever going 120 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: to change. But I am just cold all the time. 121 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,119 Speaker 2: I don't know if it changes. 122 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: But I mean, were you and I were chatting on 123 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 3: an absolutely beautiful day in New York. 124 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: But I feel like it is like a ultimate tease. Lately. 125 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: We get these like hints of sixty and then it's like, JK, 126 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: back to twenty two. 127 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like I can barely feel my 128 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: fingers and toes all the time, and we're like out 129 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: of the training field, and I'm just like, oh my gosh, 130 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: I can't wait till like end of March or maybe 131 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: even you know, end of April early May, getting the 132 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: season going in the hot weather. 133 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 3: Well, you have nothing going on lately, I mean, aside 134 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: from the fact that your daughter just turned one years old, 135 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: you had this move. 136 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: You guys are just like, I feel like, all over 137 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 2: the place. 138 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: How are you feeling with trying to keep up with 139 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: absolutely everything that's going on? 140 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: We really are, I mean, we've we're kind of comfortable 141 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: in that chaos. I mean, I feel like we were 142 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: so open to this move because we just wanted a change, 143 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: and I think it was time for a change, and 144 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: so I feel like it was definitely positive for us 145 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: to get out of the environment that we were in 146 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: and into this refreshing environment with a new team, a 147 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: new culture, a new city to explore, and business wise, 148 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: outside of soccer, this is like a perfect city for 149 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: us to be in to you know, get involved not 150 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: only in the community with the team, but also as 151 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: individuals and you know, get ourselves out there into the 152 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: city and you know, go see other games and you know, 153 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: interact with other athletes and sports and also just on 154 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: the business side. And yeah, so it's been a great 155 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: experience so far. The move was definitely hectic, but all 156 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: in all, we're super happy. 157 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: What other sorts of business endeavors are you trying to 158 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: take on at the moment. 159 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: I mean there's actually a lot. Well, you know, we 160 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: obviously want to advocate for our LGBTQ community and fight 161 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: for issues that we believe in, and I think that's 162 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: also important. We're not only defined just by playing football, 163 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: so we need to make sure that we get out 164 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: in the community, and we use our platform for good, 165 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: and we use our platform to speak up for those 166 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: who who can't one for themselves and maybe who don't 167 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: have a similar platform that we do. So we obviously 168 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: want to get involved with the community here and be 169 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: challenged in a way because that's the only way that 170 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: I feel like we can grow. And so it's been 171 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: really exciting to kind of have these new experiences. 172 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 3: So for those of that are maybe listening that aren't 173 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: caught up to speed. Your partner, Ashlynn, you married in 174 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: December twenty nineteen, talk to us a little bit about 175 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: I guess kind of coming into your own as a couple. 176 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 3: Obviously a lot of challenges that go hand in hand 177 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: with not just playing together but then kind of coming 178 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: out in that really big way. 179 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: So shed some light on that for us. 180 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was definitely new for us to 181 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: announce our engagement. I feel like, you know, within our workspace, 182 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,239 Speaker 1: you know, we felt like we needed to be professional 183 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: and you know, kind of just focus on our job. 184 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: We had this feeling that maybe we wouldn't be as 185 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: accepted during that time, and so once we kind of 186 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: said basically, f it, We're going to be who we are, 187 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: and we're going to live our lives authentically, like let's 188 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, just go for it. And I at that 189 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: moment wasn't or in that time, I wasn't on the 190 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: national team anymore. So I felt like it was, you know, 191 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: a good time for us to be more open with 192 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: our fans. Of course, I mean our family and friends 193 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: for a long time, but you know, just like to 194 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: say it out loud and to say it publicly that 195 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: we were together, that we were engaged in getting married 196 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: the following year. I think that was really important for 197 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: us and also important for our fans and supporters to 198 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: see that you know, being with you know, a partner 199 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: of the same sex as you know, normal and that's okay, 200 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: and that we can still be professional and be on 201 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: the same you know, in the same workspace. So I 202 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: think that was really a good moment for us because 203 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: then from that moment on, we could give everyone everything 204 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: we had. I think up until then it was kind 205 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: of like how we're giving pieces of ourselves, but this 206 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: isn't really all of us. And I think we were 207 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: able to give our friends, our family, our teammates, our organization, 208 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: and our club everything we had without feeling that we 209 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: were hiding anything that we were weren't being our full selves, 210 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: and so I think after that moment, it was like 211 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: a weight lifted off of both of us and we 212 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: just kind of kept on living our life and the 213 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: support from everyone, even our sponsorships, was incredible. We even 214 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: like we got more sponsorships and attention than I think 215 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: we ever thought of. You know, we weren't sure which 216 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: way people were going to go and if they were 217 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: going to accept us, and so that was definitely a 218 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: really healthy experience individually but as a couple. And then 219 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: moving on to the wedding, that was probably the last 220 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: party that everyone went through before COVID, and so we 221 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: were like so pumped to celebrate with all of our 222 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: loved ones and it was so much fun. And I 223 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: think putting that out into the world really then saved 224 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: a lot of people's lives and maybe helped them along 225 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: their journey of you know, living their true, authentic lives. 226 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: And so that was really inspiring for us, and we 227 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: wanted to do that not only for us and our 228 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: family and friends, but for the world to see that, 229 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, this is normal and the life that we 230 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: live is a choice, and it's something that we thrive 231 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: in and something that you know, we want to share 232 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: with everyone. And yeah, it was a great, a great 233 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: year for us. 234 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: So interesting. There's so many things to double click on here. 235 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: The first thing being that I'm sure in that like 236 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: kind of build up to getting to the place where 237 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: you felt ready to share this part of your life 238 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: with everyone, it's not like just sharing it with twenty people. 239 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: It's sharing it with millions of people. 240 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: So there were probably stories you were telling yourself of 241 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: how it could go or what could happen. So that 242 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: sense of relief, like I cannot even imagine. 243 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: You know, when you like struggle for a little bit 244 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: trying to find yourself in your twenties and your identity, 245 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of us can relate. And you're, 246 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: you know, finding yourself through your sexuality, and I don't 247 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: think you have to. You know, everyone has their own 248 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: journey and it doesn't have to be one way or 249 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: the other. And I think that that part of our 250 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: life was when we were working together on the national team, 251 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: and I think we both were kind of going through 252 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: our own challenges in life and both individually and as 253 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: a couple, and kind of trying to navigate through all 254 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: of that, so I know it's really difficult for a 255 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: lot of us to really you know, find your identity 256 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: and you know, figure out your sexuality. And so that 257 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: whole experience kind of came to ahead when we were 258 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: going to announce that we were engaged, and I felt 259 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: really comfortable and confident in us but also in myself 260 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: that I was ready for this moment and that we 261 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: can share now with the world and really be true 262 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: to ourselves. 263 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: And you know, there's a phrase that I feel like 264 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: I keep hearing pop up because of the pandemic. 265 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: It's called empathy fatigue. 266 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 3: And it's like you have so much going on your 267 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: own life and you're like trying to show up for 268 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: other people, and it can be truly exhausting. I would 269 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: imagine as beautiful and wonderful and so fulfilling it is 270 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: to be someone that is helpful and insightful and there 271 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: to an extent for other people. 272 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: Does it ever feel a. 273 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: Little overwhelming or perhaps a little frustrating that maybe you 274 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: can't be there in the capacity that you wish that 275 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: you could for so many. 276 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: That's such a great question. Yes and no, I feel like, yes, 277 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: I want to help anyone who needs it. I'm such 278 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: a people pleaser and I'm just you know, I worry 279 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: about everyone else's feelings more than my own, and so 280 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I want to continue to help everyone 281 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: I can. But also you have to think about you know, 282 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: you can only control what you can control. And I 283 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: think that if all of us can take a little 284 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: puzzle piece in our life and really focus on how 285 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: we can help those within that space, I think then 286 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: all of us together are actually working in the bigger pictures. 287 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: So I feel like if all of us just kind 288 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: of take care of our little puzzle piece in our 289 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: little space, then actually, you know, everyone else us is 290 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: growing in a positive direction together. Not you know, maybe 291 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: it's unknowingly, but you know, we can't control everyone and everything, 292 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: And of course I want to give more, but at 293 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I need some for myself 294 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: as well. 295 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: As another proud giver. 296 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: I think that realization is something that can be hard 297 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: to get to, but once you get there, it's like 298 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: the most valuable moment to be like, I can only 299 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: give so much to other people before I take the 300 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: picture of water and pour some into my own cup. 301 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, I totally agree one hundred percent, and it 302 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: might take you long time to realize that. It's taken 303 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: me a long time to try and like separate myself 304 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, I've done what I can and 305 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: I continue to do that, but I also can't forget 306 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: about myself and make myself a priority sometimes because then 307 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: you're right, you can't give, give, give, and receive nothing 308 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: in return. So and at the end of the day, 309 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: you're then empty and you're like, Okay, well, how am 310 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: I going to fill my cup in order to continue 311 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: to give? So I agree completely. 312 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: You also mentioned earlier being left off of the roster 313 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen. Let's talk a little bit perhaps before that, 314 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: talking about just, you know, your journey with soccer. 315 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: I know that you've been playing for one hell of 316 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: a time. 317 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: I had Carly Lloyd on the show god months ago now, 318 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 3: but she had a lot of sentiments to share about, 319 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: like what it was like to be one of the 320 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: older players in the league. And you've been going at 321 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: this for a long time and been playing really well 322 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: for a really long time. So kind of bring us 323 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: back and talk to us about your entry point into 324 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 3: playing professional soccer. 325 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely this is my sixteenth year professionally. 326 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: I you know, we didn't have a league when I 327 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: graduated way back in I was seventh, and so I 328 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: wanted to continue to plan. Ultimately, my dream was to 329 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: make the national team. So long story short, I that 330 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: year was on the U twenty threes. We went to Vasa, 331 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: Finland and had a tournament there and I think a 332 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: lot of European coaches came to that tournament to recruit 333 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: or just to see. And so I got a phone 334 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: call from an agent of just a family friend and 335 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: he said, Hey, would you want to come try out 336 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: like for a couple of teams in Europe who are 337 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: interested that they saw you this summer. I said, oh 338 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: my gosh, sure, Like what else am I going to do? 339 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: Play pick up with like my guy friends from high 340 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: school like twice a week and hope I'd get to 341 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: the next level. No, So I packed with two bags 342 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: and I went to Frankfurt, Germany, and I ended up 343 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: at training with like seven of like some of the 344 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: best footballers in the world which played on the German 345 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: national team, and they were incredible. And also Gino Lewandowski, 346 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: who's my teammate here at Gotham she Gotham FC. She 347 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: was also at the at the field that day, so 348 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: I met her and then five and a half years later, 349 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: I had some of the best experiences of my life, 350 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: both on the field and off the field. That's when 351 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: I kind of went through this whole finding myself and 352 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: kind of exploring. I think I needed that just kind 353 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: of to be and be able to sit with myself 354 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: and in my thoughts and kind of you know, picture 355 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: my life. And I really loved it there. I had 356 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: five and a half great years. I ended up coming 357 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: back because I wanted to help the nwasl start the league, 358 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: so that was my reasoning end of coming back after 359 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: so long. But I mean I won Champions League there 360 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: and all the titles that you can win at club 361 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: level in Europe, which was fantastic. So that was a 362 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: great start. So I loved it. And then I came 363 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: home and started to play in DC, you know, for 364 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: four years, and then got traded to Orlando. Luckily they 365 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: traded me there because Ash was there. I don't know 366 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: what would what would have happened if I would have 367 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: been traded anywhere else, but and then you know, I'm 368 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: going to end my career with Gotham FC. So this 369 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: has been quite the experience. I've learned a lot along 370 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: the way. I've been in really good environments and maybe 371 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: not so good environments. So I think I've taken the 372 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: good and the bad and mixed it all together through 373 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: my experiences now and just having the best four weeks 374 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: so far with any club team that I've been on. 375 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: So this has been a great road, a really tough road. 376 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: You know. In between there, you've had some big time tournaments, 377 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: World Cups and Olympics. But you know, in two thousand 378 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: and seven, I decided to take this big risk. I 379 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: didn't know anybody. I just packed my bags. I said, listen, family, 380 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm leaving. I need to get out of here. I 381 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: want to go explore something new, culture, food, people, environment, 382 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: let me learn something about myself, challenge myself. And I 383 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: ended up taking a risk and then ended up, you know, 384 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: landing me in my dream job. So I'm so grateful 385 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: for that experience. 386 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: It's so funny, right, I feel like you hear that 387 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 3: all the time, someone says something like I took a 388 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: risk and it paid off. But so often people are 389 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 3: afraid afraid to take the risk because they're nervous about 390 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 3: it going in the other direction. Do you think that 391 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: you kind of were born with that level of gusto 392 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 3: or was this truly something that was entirely out of 393 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: your comfort zone. 394 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: I think a little bit of both, because I was 395 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: definitely like, I don't even know what I'm jumping into, 396 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: Like I have absolutely no clue, but like, I'm willing 397 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: to take that because here I'm you know, I have 398 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: goals and dreams that I want to accomplish, and I 399 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: don't think that this environment is going to get me there. 400 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 1: So I needed to put myself in an environment where there 401 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: were players who are better than me and kind of 402 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: challenge myself in order to then grow. So I was 403 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: willing to just like try something new, and just like 404 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: you said, like I feel, I feel like unless you 405 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: take that risk, you're never gonna know. And so the 406 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: worst thing that could happen is if it goes south, 407 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: I just come back. And so I was like, listen, 408 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: I'll do something else. So I definitely had that luxury of, 409 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 1: you know, making that choice, and they ended up signing 410 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: me for two years and then the rest is history. 411 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: But I think, yeah, if you don't take that risk, 412 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: you'll never know. 413 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 3: Talk to me about getting involved with the US women's 414 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: national team. 415 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: Pia Suntaga came to one of my club club games 416 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: in Frankfurt and we were playing Potsdam and I was 417 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: having to play against one of the best German players 418 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: of all time, Leira Bairomi, and I think she came 419 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: to that game and watched watch me play, and then 420 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: after that game she was, I guess, just impressed with 421 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: the game and the way we played, and then invited 422 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: me to that next camp. And so it was a 423 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: bit of a surprise that I was going to be 424 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: like coming into that next camp, and I'm sure she 425 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: was just kind of, you know, seeing if I could 426 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: fit with the rest of the team and play at 427 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: the level of the national team, because it is a 428 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: huge jump from club it's definitely not the same. And 429 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: so I went into that camp and I felt like, 430 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, I did well, and she gave me great 431 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: feedback and then continued calling me in and then that 432 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: was the year of the World Cup, so this twenty ten, 433 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: and then the year of the World Cup was obviously 434 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, and that was in Germany, and so it 435 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: was just kind of like a whole full circle moment. 436 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: So luckily Pia came to one of the games when 437 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 1: I was playing in Frankfurt, and then you know, the 438 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: rest is history. 439 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: But along your journey, you also you mentioned some hard times, 440 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: some of those hard times having to do with injury. 441 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: So chat me through what that landscape has really looked 442 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 3: like for you. I know you had a really rough, 443 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: fibulous spiral fracture, so let's talk about that. 444 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was three days before the NCAA first 445 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: round game in college and we played against a boys 446 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: team that year just to prep us. It was a Wednesday, 447 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: I think we were playing Friday, and so it was 448 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: just like at the end, we just wanted to get 449 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: a game in before to prep us. And I just 450 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: got tackled from behind unfortunately, and got tangled up and 451 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: landed down in a weird way and immediately broke my fibula. 452 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know at the time, but I definitely knew 453 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: something was wrong and that turned into missing the rest 454 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: of the season. That year, we actually went to the 455 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: final four, So I missed the final fours. I was 456 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: so devastated. But we played Megan Rapino in the semi 457 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: final against Portland, and so we lost in TKS, but 458 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: it was such a such a great year. We were 459 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: ranked like number one that year. But it was a 460 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: real struggle because that was like probably one of my 461 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: first injuries that I experienced and not being able to 462 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: play and you know, just in tears and just like 463 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: going through it. And then the road was even longer 464 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: because I ended up having a pulmonary embolism from that 465 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: surgery the flights to the Final four and over Christmas 466 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: break and then I was on you know, birth control 467 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: pills at the time, So I think it was like 468 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: a perfect storm for that to happen. That was a 469 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: whole nother layer. And then that was a six month recovery, 470 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: So it was definitely a long period of time where 471 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: I was away from the game, and so I struggled 472 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: a little bit mentally and wondered if I would ever 473 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: be able to play again. And so that took a 474 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: toll on me. And I was only twenty one at 475 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: the time, and I still had another year left in school, 476 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 1: and so I just fought back and listened to the 477 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: doctors and the professionals as much as possible and was 478 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: able to slowly get back into it. But it definitely 479 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: put a dent in my mindset and mentality, and it 480 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: really challenged me. 481 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 3: And you've dealt with other injuries since I think so 482 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: many people can relate to not being able to do 483 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 3: the thing that they love that brings them so much joy, 484 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: that's a huge part of their identity. What were maybe 485 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: some of the tools that you harnessed, either like mentally 486 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: or like reaching out to help from friends and loved 487 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: ones to get through these times where you felt so 488 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: unsure of like who you were supposed to be or 489 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: what you would do going forward, if X or if HY. 490 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's difficult because you do start thinking that 491 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: you're like, oh gosh, like what if I can't play again? 492 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: Like I don't I'm not set up yet for the 493 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: next step. You know, you're just going to be forced 494 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: to kind of just like do take another path, which 495 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: I would have been fine with, but it just would 496 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: have been definitely a period of you know, grieving, I guess, 497 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: so to speak. And at that time I was just 498 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: focused on, you know, the next day. And I think 499 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 1: a lot of people it's difficult for people to not 500 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: think ahead of down the road and visioning that Okay, 501 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: you're going to be doing this or that, But I 502 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: honestly just focused on the recovery process and how can 503 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: I first of all get healthy and then how can 504 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: I slowly get back onto the field, and following the 505 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: instructions from you know, the medical staff was really important. 506 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: And then just taking one day at a time and 507 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: having small goals each day and each week rather than 508 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: looking ahead and setting, you know, my long term goals 509 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: and kind of overseeing those weekly goals, because then you're 510 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: just gonna drive yourself nuts if you don't meet it 511 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: at that specific time period. So I just tried to 512 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: continue to get better every day, continue to get healthier, 513 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: and take one day at a time and not really 514 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: put that pressure on myself. So it was definitely a 515 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: slow process, but I feel like in the end it 516 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: made me that much stronger. 517 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: Taking a break from today's episode to give some love 518 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 3: to my sponsors. First up, Daily Harvest. 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Today feels like 582 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: some of these themes have been ones that have kind 583 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: of interwoven throughout your entire story. Circling back to that 584 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen moment, where were you mentally when you realized 585 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: what was going on with the US women's national team. 586 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: I was devastated. I was devastated because I was actually 587 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: playing some of the best football in my career and 588 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't really understand. And I know there was you know, 589 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking of every which way, like what could 590 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: be the issue, like, because you know, my ability and 591 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: quality on the field at that time was really good, 592 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: and I felt very confident and very consistent, and at 593 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 1: that level, my mentality was was good, and I just 594 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: feel like there was no one that was really truly 595 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: like beating me out of my position. So I guess 596 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: I didn't really understand. I know that not every coach 597 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,239 Speaker 1: is going to like you, you know, whether that be your 598 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: playing style or maybe just because you know, sometimes there's 599 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: not even a rhyme or reason, like, you know, not 600 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: everyone's going to like you. But I thought that at 601 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: that level, if you're the best in that position and 602 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: you're playing well in club, then you deserve to be there. 603 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: And so I wasn't really understanding that and even asking 604 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: the question, I wasn't really getting an honest answer. And 605 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: so that's something that I was really upset about because 606 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: in this profession and a lot of us, you know, 607 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: we're professionals, like you could just tell me, hey, this 608 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: is what you need to get better at, this is 609 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: what you need to do in order to be here, 610 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: and then sure out, like you know, apply that and 611 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: implement that in every training and get better and then 612 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: bring it back into the camp. Well, there was just nothing. 613 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: It was just crickets, like, it was just not even 614 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: it was just made up, I felt like. And so 615 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: then I thought it was somewhat of a personal vendetta. 616 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: And so that was really a hard time period because 617 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: I just never had an answer of why and so 618 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: like what can I work on in order to get back? 619 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: And so that's why I think I struggled more because 620 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: I was doing well and I had one of the 621 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: best club seasons in my career with Orlando that year, 622 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: and just it wasn't clique and I wasn't really understanding. 623 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: So that was why it was so tough. 624 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 2: There's kind of two parts to this. 625 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: One is like you get to a point where you 626 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 3: start telling yourself all of these stories. So if someone 627 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 3: could have just kind of like put you out of 628 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 3: your misery to better understand what you could focus your 629 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: energy on, the other thing, really, is you learning this 630 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: important lesson of doing the best you could with what 631 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: you had, right, Like, it wasn't like you didn't have 632 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 3: or deserve or earn the right to be upset in 633 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: this moment. But then, as I know, because I know 634 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: what's coming, and maybe some of the listeners do as well, 635 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: but like turning your energy into okay, well this is 636 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 3: how it is now, so I'm gonna push with that, right. 637 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: And like we talked about before, you can only control 638 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: what you can control. So then you know, it's not 639 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: like I turn on the specific alley care Yer that 640 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: shows up just with the national team at camp. It's 641 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: like I'm always that same alley. So in club, I 642 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: made sure that I, you know, showed up every day. 643 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: I had a good attitude, you know, fought for my position, 644 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, earned weekend and week out a position in 645 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: the starting eleven on this or just in the squad 646 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: of eighteen, and just made sure that I was consistent 647 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: and confident in every performance, so that you know, that's 648 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: going to always be my mentality. You know, that's always 649 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: going to be me, whether I'm just with club or 650 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: national team or both. So I feel I feel like 651 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: that's what I focused on. I tried to just be 652 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: more consistent and you know, have great performances. And then 653 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: it hopes that the door was still cracked, you know, open, 654 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: that I could get my big toe right in there 655 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: and keep the door open for a little bit longer 656 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 1: for you. 657 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: During this time also going through so much personally, did 658 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 3: you have a hard time navigating your personal relationships because 659 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 3: of the frustrations that you were experiencing with it in 660 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 3: your professional life. 661 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: Yes, good question. I mean, I absolutely it's really difficult 662 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: when you're going through something. I think, you know, Ash 663 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: thank God for her, Like she's stuck by my side 664 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: and actually pushed me every day to continue to you know, 665 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: play well and do the right things in order to 666 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: perform at the highest level and in order to not 667 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: be ignored. And so I think, you know, she was 668 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: such a staple obviously and helping me get back to 669 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: the team. My family and friends are always going to support, 670 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 1: but I did feel like I was pushing people away 671 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: because I just wanted, you know, some time to try 672 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: and figure out what was next. I actually tried to 673 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: stay busy as much as possible, and I had my 674 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 1: camps and clinics with AKFC, and I would do appearances, 675 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, and try to stay busy as much as 676 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: possible in order to kind of, I guess, not have 677 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: as much free time to think about what was going on. 678 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: And so I started working on projects that I've always 679 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: wanted to and you know, visit friends that I've always 680 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: wanted to. And I was able to go to a 681 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: wedding and different like family gatherings that I that I 682 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: had never been able to up until now, you know, 683 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: for years, and so I think that time was really 684 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: healthy for me to kind of pick myself back up 685 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: and you know, do other things that I enjoy. And 686 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: so all in all, yes, was a devastating, but it then, 687 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: you know, helped me kind of have more time and 688 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: quality time with family and friends that I didn't before. 689 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 3: Makes you think of that saying like life is happening 690 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 3: for you, not to you, and when you're in that moment, 691 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 3: like gosh, does it feel like everything everything is happening 692 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 3: to you? When it feels completely out of your control 693 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 3: and the world is spinning and. 694 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: You know as it is right right for sure. 695 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 3: This mentality that you're explaining here and like taking advantage 696 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 3: of what could have been seen as like a very 697 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 3: you know, and was a disappointing situation is why you 698 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: and I've heard you talk about this before, are a 699 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: one percenter, So talk to us about what that is. 700 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think you're, you know, one percenter where 701 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: you have You're willing to do the work that not 702 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: many other people are willing to do in order to 703 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: stay at the top. So if it's between you and me, 704 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to be winning. It's that fight. It's that mentality, 705 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: It's that drive to want to be successful and compete 706 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: constantly and playing in this sport at this level, it's 707 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: somewhat easy to get to this level and you think 708 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: you've made it, but what actually keeps you here is 709 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: having that mentality and that drive to want to be 710 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: the best every single day, and that's how you can 711 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: stay here. So some you know, my teammates and former 712 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: teammates get to this level and possibly you know, I've 713 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: seen a handful of rookies do the same. They're just 714 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: happy to be here. And I feel, you know, you're 715 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: not going to last very long if you just have 716 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: that mentality like, ah, I made it, but it's actually 717 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: now the work begins. You made it, but now the work, 718 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: the hard work, really begins, and you have to continue 719 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: to have that growth mindset and wanting to get better 720 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: and be the best every day. And if you have 721 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: that mentality, you will stay and have a long career. 722 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: But if you don't have that willingness and that drive, 723 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be a tough road. 724 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 3: It's it's about like not getting complacent, right exactly. I 725 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 3: mean the other part of it really is that, yes, 726 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 3: like this goes hand in hand with leveling up on 727 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 3: the field, but it also goes hand in hand with 728 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 3: like the other aspirations that you have, Like being a 729 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 3: one percenter isn't just excelling in what is your profession. 730 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: It's kind of channeling that same energy and using it 731 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 3: to go after the other pursuits like we were talking 732 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: about at the top of this, the business things that 733 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 3: you're interested in right now, you know, being an advocate 734 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 3: for your community, it goes so much farther than just 735 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 3: being on the pitch. 736 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, you have to take that into every piece 737 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: of your life, right, So it's like, you know, with 738 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: my family and like doing everything I can outside of 739 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: the field in order to continue to have a roof 740 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: over my head and fight for, you know, issues that 741 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: I believe in that Sloan is going to be affected 742 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: with one day, and making sure that you you know, 743 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: put all of your effort into family, into your sport 744 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: and make sure that that stays consistent. So you're right, 745 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: you can't get complacent, and it's definitely a journey, but 746 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: it's all about your willingness and what you put into 747 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: it is what you're going to get out of it. 748 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 3: There's that saying when you're tired, you rest, you don't quit, 749 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 3: and I would assume that pride yourself as a one percenter. 750 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 3: There are many moments where especially gestures loosely because of 751 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 3: the last two years, like everything that's going on. Burnout 752 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 3: is real, like going from one team to next team again, 753 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: the chaos, you thrive in it. 754 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 2: But it's a lot. So how does Ali take care 755 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 2: of Ali? 756 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: Well, I go to therapy, so that's yeah, we love 757 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: therapy here. Yeah, that's important. I definitely communicate with my 758 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: family and friends and check in and make sure that 759 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: like we're all doing okay. I feel like that's really important, 760 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: making sure that you know everyone's on the same page 761 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: and that we're all okay. I do think it's really 762 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: important for Ash and I to make sure we make 763 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 1: ourselves the priority. I know we do everything now and 764 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: Sloan's the priority, but really I want her to see 765 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: us with a smile on our face walking into the 766 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: door after training and maybe a hard day. So I 767 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: think it's okay to, you know, kind of do things 768 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 1: for yourself in order to bring that happiness into the home. 769 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: And I can't forget that because I do carry a 770 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: lot of mom guilt, and so it gets to be 771 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: a little bit difficult. 772 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 2: What does the mom guilt look like for you? 773 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: Well, I feel like, am I there enough? Am I 774 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: paying attention to your enough? Am I doing activities with 775 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: her enough? You know? Am I away from the house 776 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: like too long? You know? I don't know, It's just 777 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: that that's what it feels like. And so you want 778 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: to make sure you're there all the time and giving 779 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: her everything and there every minute. But it's impossible because 780 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: I also want her to know that it's okay to 781 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: really love what you do, and I want her to 782 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: be inspired by what we do. And you know, working 783 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: in life is really critical, and I want her to 784 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: know that we work hard at what we do and 785 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: in order for us to have what we have and 786 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: a roof over our head, and so I think that's 787 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: also important. So it's definitely trying to like let that 788 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: go slowly. It's really theficult for moms. And now I 789 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: understand what moms, you know, say when they say mom guilt, 790 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: because you just want to make sure you're given, giving, giving, 791 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: so that they are successful. But really, you doing what 792 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: you do best is enough. As long as we walk 793 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: in the door with a smile on our face and 794 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: excited to see hear them. Sure, that's all she cares about. 795 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: And I have to continue to remember that. 796 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you're describing, you know, your tendencies and yourself 797 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 3: ultimately as someone who is both compassionate and strong. When 798 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 3: you think about what makes you both a good partner 799 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 3: and a good teammate, what would you say puts you 800 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 3: in that bucket. 801 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: On the field, I'm supportive and demanding at the same time. 802 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 2: Talk to us about being both, because I think you have. 803 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: To understand how your teammates receive information and not just 804 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: expect them to receive it if you're like yelling at them, 805 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: Like some of my teammates can handle that, like I 806 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: can demand a little bit more, but some teammates you 807 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: have to be a little bit more supportive. And so 808 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: I think it's you know, there's a lot of value 809 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: in both and you have to understand each other in 810 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: order to do that. But that also boils down to communication. 811 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: And I think communication, not only in my personal life 812 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: but on the field within the team is really critical 813 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: in order to have a successful environment and a safe environment. 814 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 1: And so I think communication and patients, which I've learned 815 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: a lot being a mom, I definitely try to carry 816 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: that through with myself every day and into the team. 817 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: And I think as I get older, because now I think, 818 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: since we were talking about this earlier, I think I'm 819 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: the oldest player and imother son, you know, I feel 820 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 1: like it's really important to have good communication and good 821 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: build those good relationships because like you said, it's not 822 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: going to last forever, and you really have to enjoy 823 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: in the moment, and so being supportive yet demanding in 824 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: order to win a championship is key. And then I 825 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 1: think having communication patients every day as just me as 826 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 1: an individual is something that is really important with all 827 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: my relationships, definitely. 828 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 3: And to go back and bring this full circle stemming 829 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 3: from that time a poor communication of you not knowing 830 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 3: your place, of feeling frustrated with the US women's national team, 831 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 3: bring us to what ultimately happened in was it April 832 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, Yes, talk to me about April twenty nineteen. 833 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: So I was out on the Saga field in Orlando 834 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: during like a double day and I get back in 835 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 1: after the first train session. I have a text message 836 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,439 Speaker 1: from Joe Ellis and I said, oh, I haven't talked 837 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,479 Speaker 1: to her and I don't know how long, like what's 838 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: going on? And so I took a look at it 839 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: and she said, hey, I'd love to catch up and 840 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 1: you know, let me know when there's a good time 841 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: to chat basically, And I didn't answer right away, you know, 842 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: I let her sit on it for a little bit, 843 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: and I went in and actually talked to my co 844 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: is in Orlando and just you know, had asked if 845 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 1: they had spoken to her, because I was just wondering 846 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: what it could possibly be about. They said no, not yet, 847 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: but we talked a little bit about potentially having an 848 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: offer to go back to the national team, and I said, yeah, 849 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: I need to think about it for a little bit, 850 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: but I'm going to give her a call back, and 851 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 1: so I did. On the way home after the second session, 852 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: I told her that's when I would have time, and 853 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit and she had said I'd 854 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: love to invite you back in and we went on 855 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: and discussed, you know, some things that I just said, Honestly, 856 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm willing to do anything for the team, whatever that is. 857 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: I want to help the team be successful and win, 858 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 1: and ultimately that is you know what I'd love to do. 859 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 1: So yes, there was no really explanation, no communication on 860 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: the past or anything. I just wanted to like let 861 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 1: that go because I was already in a new place 862 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: and a new environment and a new space mentally that 863 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted to continue to keep going in that 864 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: positive direction. And so I was so excited to have 865 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: the opportunity again because it was the last camp before 866 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: or maybe the second to last camp before the World Cup, 867 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 1: and so I couldn't believe it, and so I was 868 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: just really excited to have the opportunity and I said, 869 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: whatever you need me to do, I'm ready to. 870 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: Do ready to do it. 871 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 3: And then I mean comes soon after that to get 872 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 3: to the hundred cap mark was just probably the most 873 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 3: beautiful moment for you. 874 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: Yes, because I was stuck on ninety eight. And honestly, 875 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: it's not about the numbers, you know, for me, it's just, 876 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: you know, I was so proud every single one of 877 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 1: those appearances to be a part of the team and 878 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: help the team win. But I definitely was hoping that 879 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: I could kind of, you know, get those last two 880 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: and feel I think, more complete. Not that I I 881 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: wouldn't if I didn't get those, but just somehow it 882 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: was just lingering and I felt like over the years 883 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: and the way that I was playing, I had you know, 884 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: deserved that moment, and so I think, yeah, it was 885 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: a beautiful experience. I'm so grateful for the opportunity. Every 886 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: time you put on that national team jersey, it's an honor, 887 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: and I wasn't going to let that moment pass me by, 888 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: and so so excited that that is where you know, 889 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: that next chapter kind of began. 890 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 3: You mentioned your wedding being one of the last real 891 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 3: great gatherings of twenty nineteen. Yeah, you know, it's it's 892 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 3: so awesome. I watched the wedding video on Vogue. Like 893 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 3: everyone also like does it ever get old? But someone's like, oh, 894 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 3: I watched your wedding video on Vogue. 895 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: No, but like I have to tell you, we weren't 896 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,439 Speaker 1: even planning on having a videographer. We weren't even planning 897 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: on having We were like, oh, like, I think the 898 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: pictures will be just fine, right, So then like one 899 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: of our wedding planners friends was like, wait, they don't 900 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: have any videographer. Like all like, we'll do it. Our 901 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: Timeline production company were like, we'll do it. And then 902 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: they were like, okay, well we found, you know, a 903 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: videographer if you want to, like, you know, they would 904 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: love to do it for you. Guys. I said, one 905 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: hundred percent, that'd be great. You know. So we never 906 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,919 Speaker 1: even had that footage. 907 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well the footage was stunning. 908 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 3: But it's so cool because you do see like such 909 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 3: a beautiful moment with your friends and family standing truly 910 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 3: surrounding you, and then I believe in there there's there's 911 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 3: Meg's speech and everything, and it really highlights the beautiful 912 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 3: relationships that you have in your life, both with your 913 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 3: family and your friends, but also with your teammates who 914 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 3: have become, you know, just like family. Why would you 915 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 3: say the relationships that you have with these women are 916 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 3: literally forever lasting. 917 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: They are because you go through things with them that 918 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 1: you can't even put into words. Really, you can't, you know, 919 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: share the deep emotional feeling that you go through with 920 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: these women, you know, year after year and tournament after tournament, 921 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: and just like a lot of people don't see behind 922 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: the scenes of how hard it really is, and you 923 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: don't understand it unless you're there and you're within the 924 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: squads and the staff. And so I think that I 925 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: will always have a specific bond and such a beautiful 926 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: bond with each and every one of these players and women, 927 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: and you know, you build these lifelong friendships, and I 928 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: think that is ultimately what is the best about our 929 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: group and players in the football community, is that you 930 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 1: build these lifelong friendships. And that's something that I am 931 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: so grateful to take away, not you know, the championships 932 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: and this and that, it's honestly about these friendships that 933 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 1: you build with these women who have these shared experiences 934 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: that are you know, the ups and the downs and 935 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 1: the emotional, mental, and physical battles day in and day 936 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: out is and what we endure day to day is 937 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, you can't really explain it unless you're there, 938 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: and so that is why it's so special. 939 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean the word battle kind of brings 940 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 3: to the forefront the equal pay lawsuit, which what a 941 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 3: huge moment recently for all of you women trying to 942 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 3: find you know, your footing in this space, to be 943 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 3: recognized and given the moment that you deserve. How did 944 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 3: that feel for you after all of these years? 945 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: Really great? It's definitely a step forward. It's definitely a 946 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: step forward. And I know that we might not see 947 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: all the benefits from it, but that's something that we 948 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 1: have always talked about. We want to leave the game 949 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: better than where we found it, and so it is 950 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: so important that our younger players and the youth have 951 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,240 Speaker 1: the opportunity to dream big and to get what they deserve. 952 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: And so we'll keep fighting because we do deserve more. 953 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: And this is a win for all women. It's not 954 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: just about the US women's soccer team. It's about women 955 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 1: across all industries who are fighting the same fight in 956 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: their workplace, who are fighting for equity, equality, respect in 957 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: the workplace. So this is a step forward and we 958 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: are very happy about it, but we can always be 959 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: doing more and the work will never be done, and 960 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: so we will continue to fight every day. And now 961 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: we have to get down to the club level and 962 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 1: kind of have that same mentality in that same fight 963 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: going on in order to get what we deserve. 964 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean the equal rights definitely also extending 965 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 3: to a lot of the work that you do with 966 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 3: the LGBTQ community. I feel like I would be remiss 967 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 3: if I didn't ask you to maybe offer some sentiments 968 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 3: to someone who is struggling to get to this beautiful 969 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 3: place that you are in now, someone who feels so 970 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 3: accepted and loved by her community. Embracing yourself authentically as 971 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 3: you are for these people that may not be quite 972 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 3: at this stage just yet, what is it that you 973 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 3: tell them during their struggles? 974 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: But I think everything is going to be okay. I 975 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: think living your truth really opens so many doors, and 976 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: I think that it's okay to kind of take your 977 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 1: own journey. You don't need to have a time stamp 978 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: on when you express your sexuality or who you really 979 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,240 Speaker 1: feel you are, and there's you know, no one saying 980 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: that there has to be this special moment of you 981 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 1: announcing it to the world. It's your own journey and 982 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: in your own time. It's okay to take that time 983 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: and to realize that this is about you. And also, 984 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: you know, if anyone has a problem with it, then 985 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: it has a lot to do with them and very 986 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,240 Speaker 1: little to do with you. So live your authentic life. 987 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,439 Speaker 1: And once that, I think I can speak for Ash 988 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: as well. Once we kind of open that door and 989 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: we haven't looked back, it's just been an incredible experience 990 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: for us. And the way that I feel now is 991 00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: just having that openness and honesty and authenticity to my 992 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 1: life has been so accepting. So on the other side 993 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: of the door, you will be so loved in our community. 994 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 1: Will it be accepting and can't wait for you to 995 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: jump through. 996 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 2: We love that. 997 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 3: We love that someone right now comes to your Instagram 998 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 3: page they see this amazing footballer, a mom, a wife, 999 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,439 Speaker 3: joins of nine hundred and twenty two thousand people. When 1000 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 3: you look in the mirror, what is it that you 1001 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 3: see looking back at you? 1002 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 1: I gosh, I see a strong, confident woman who really 1003 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: cares about her family and her friends and wants what's 1004 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 1: best for the community that she lives in every single day. 1005 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,720 Speaker 3: Right now, you have an opportunity to give the ALLI 1006 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen going through that really big hurdle moment 1007 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 3: asking herself all of the why a piece of advice. 1008 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,959 Speaker 3: Looking back on it right now, with the know how 1009 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 3: and the wisdom and everything else that you have at 1010 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 3: this moment, what do you tell her? 1011 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we spoke about it before. I think mainly, 1012 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,399 Speaker 1: just live your life authentically and for you. I think 1013 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 1: that if I could have told myself fifteen years ago 1014 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: that it's okay to just be you, I think I 1015 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 1: would have started living a lot earlier. And two, I 1016 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: think take that big risk because it could lead you 1017 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: to your dream job. I might have four things. The 1018 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 1: third thing I would say is just put your cell 1019 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,239 Speaker 1: phones down and explore the world. I think we miss 1020 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: a lot now because we are constantly scrolling through social 1021 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,800 Speaker 1: media and we're really missing what is so beautiful around 1022 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: us and those moments that we will never be able 1023 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: to get back. And for control what you're able to control. 1024 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,320 Speaker 1: Just that's your work ethic and your attitude towards something. 1025 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 1: And I think if you can keep that consistent and 1026 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 1: have that as a mind set, then everyone will be 1027 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 1: in such a happier place. 1028 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 2: What excites you right now? 1029 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 1: Al? My family, hopefully growing my family, and then our 1030 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 1: NWSAWS season coming up. I'm so excited to be a 1031 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 1: part of this new team and this amazing group of 1032 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: people and footballers who have worked so hard to get 1033 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: this team in a place to really play and bring 1034 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: something special to this city. And so I'm so pumped 1035 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 1: about that. 1036 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 3: I'm pumped about it too because hopefully I can come watch. Yes, 1037 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 3: you have to, you have amazing Yes, I'll have to 1038 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,919 Speaker 3: come from Brooklyn. I am so grateful for your time. 1039 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for this conversation. How did the hurdlers 1040 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 3: follow along with you? How do they keep up with you? 1041 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,399 Speaker 3: Give us all of your details? 1042 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so I keep everything really simple and all the same. 1043 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: So Twitter and Instagram is Ali Kreeker and that's it, 1044 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: so follow me on there. I don't really do TikTok, 1045 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: but we might be doing maybe TikTok san. 1046 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 2: Using a TikTok. 1047 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast 1048 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 3: Another Hurdle Conquered, Catch you guys, next time.