WEBVTT - Ten Months...and What? 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.520 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Woke f Daily with 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.040 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody reporting live from the Brooklyn 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:21.680 Bunker today. I'm very excited to welcome back to Woke 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:26.279 after an extended conversation our friend Ellie Mistol, who is 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:28.680 a justice correspondent for the Nation, and of course you 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:33.880 see him blowing full fire and truth on MSNBCC, SPAN 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.680 and other outlets you know. Today I bring him on 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:42.920 because I am moving to a place where I want 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:50.840 Merrick Garland gone. I want full campaigns aimed at the administration, 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:55.680 aimed at Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris to 0:00:55.840 --> 0:01:00.760 get him out of the Department of Justice. Garland has 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:06.800 had ten months, ten months to begin an investigation into 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.959 one six to alert the public to the fact that 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.520 it wasn't just a mantra that no one is above 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.560 the law, but that he was going to see to 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.080 it that no one was above the law, and that 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:23.840 those responsible for trying to overthrow our government on January sixth, 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.760 all of those involved, including from the President of the 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:33.679 United States his entire fucking cabinet, to the insurrectionist members 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:37.880 of Congress, to the motherfuckers that defecated on the floor 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:42.200 of the Capitol building, that these people would be arrested. Right, 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.760 It's been ten fucking months and only a handful of 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:50.480 people have gotten light sentences for trying to overthrow our government. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:55.520 You have Condeliza Rice going on television last week saying 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:59.360 that America wants to turn the page. No, they do not. Actually, 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.280 everyone wants to know that the page is not being 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:06.000 turned on our democracy. Americans want to know that they 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.639 can have faith in the institutions right that are supposed 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.880 to safeguard them from authoritarianism and fascism, that are supposed 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.640 to safeguard them from other insurrections and coups that we 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.360 are seeing happen all around the fucking globe. You know, 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.600 you think that you watch the news and you see 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.919 what is happening in these other countries, and you think 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:29.000 to yourself, oh, that could never happen here. And you know, 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.480 the only difference between them and us is that we 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.680 are supposed to have systems of accountability. We are supposed 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.679 to have free and fair elections. We are supposed to 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.400 have representatives that put their country ahead of their party. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.360 But time and time again, over the last several years, 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.480 we are seeing that that is not the case. And 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.560 not only that, but when we ushered in a new 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.799 administration that we also thought that we were voting for change, 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.520 that we were voting for accountability. Wasn't enough to just 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.400 say that Joe Biden wasn't going to be Donald Trump. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.400 We wanted him to be better, and we wanted him 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.480 to hold Donald Trump accountable, to make an example of 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:11.480 him so that it would be known that you try 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.720 an attempt to overthrow and thwart our democracy, We're coming 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.600 for you. But that's not what we're seeing, is it. 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:23.160 There were two major articles that have come out, one 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.359 in the Rolling Stones and another one in the Washington Post, 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.880 both being done by investigative reporters that are uncovering through 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:36.880 contact with both planners and people who were present during 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.560 the insurrection about how they had not one, not two, 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:45.360 but multiple meetings with members of Congress, multiple meetings with 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:49.040 White House staff. Where do you think that the people 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.200 got these plans in the Capitol building and knew exactly 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.160 where to go? I have been saying this since the beginning. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:04:00.280 I worked on Capitol Hill right for many years. Even 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.240 I don't know my way around all of the intricate 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.160 turns and what have you. Indoors that are not marked, 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.760 but they knew what doors to go into. They knew 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.960 where Whip Clyburn's capital office was as opposed to his 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.760 regular Congressional office, and how to get there. So these 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.719 are the people that have been called out in the 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:27.479 Rolling Stones article. Paul Gosser, who is a representative from Arizona. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.200 Now Paul Gosser. According to these two insurrectionists who the 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.600 Rolling Stones has been in contact with, have said that 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.640 when they spoke with his office and staff multiple times, 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:44.560 that he talked about dangling and presenting them with blanket pardons. Right, 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:50.400 providing people with blanket pardons. Just do our bidding, right, 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.400 hang the vice president, do whatever needs to be done 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.760 in order to keep Trump in office. You're doing your 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.240 patriotic duty and we'll have your back. That's what Paul 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:04.120 Gosser apparently was telling insurrectionists that he met with. Right. 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:08.599 Then you have Lauren Bobert. You have Moe Brooks, who 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.400 is already being sued. Right if you remember, he is 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:17.480 being sued by another member of Congress for his involvement 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.960 and his speech at the insurrection. Remember that Moe Brooks 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.200 if I'm not if I'm remembering correctly, was the one 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.800 that decided that he was going to attend the rally 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.840 with body armor on underneath his clothes so that he 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:35.839 could be, you know, quote ready for anything. He's being 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:41.599 sued by Eric Swalwell. Then you have Madison Cawthorne, you 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:47.200 have Andy Biggs, and you have Representative go mart Those 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.599 are just the handful whose names. And by the way, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:55.560 these are people who also, following the insurrection, still voted 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.960 to decertify the election. So we knew that these people 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.600 have been involved. Where are the FBI investigations into them? 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:10.720 Where's the DOJ's indictments? Not to mention the fact that 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.400 these people in the Rolling Stones article also said that 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.960 they met with Mark Meadows. We also know that there 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.880 was a war room that was put together that Steve Bannon, 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:27.320 John Eastman, Rudy Giuliani and others had activated at the 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:31.240 Willard Hotel. So how is it that we have all 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:35.960 of this investigative reporting, all of this information that is 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.560 now being disseminated through our media streams, and yet I 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:44.279 hear nothing coming out of the Department of Justice. We 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.400 hear no indictments, and it's been ten goddamn months. You 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:53.600 don't even hear this administration speaking in candid terms every 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:57.960 single day about how justice will prevail and that we 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.920 will ensure that the intended coup, or, as Bill Maher 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.080 has said, this slow moving coup. Because here's the thing, folks, 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:13.000 it's still actually unfolding and they are winning. That's the reality. 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:19.200 They have already implemented hundreds of vote of suppression laws, 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.600 They have installed new secretaries of States or getting ready to. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:30.120 They are running for school board and city council. They 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.800 are doing everything that they can to make sure that 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:38.000 once Democrats lose, because they will, because that's what Democrats 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.239 are good at, its fucking losing any bit of power 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.920 that the people give them because they're too busy trying 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.400 to As my favorite movie says, the American president, too 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.440 busy trying to hold onto their jobs instead of actually 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:56.800 doing their fucking jobs. So whose problem is it going 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.480 to be when Democrats lose in twenty twenty two and 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.280 Kevin McCarthy takes the gavel from Nancy Pelosi? Where do 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.800 you think they're going to be turning their investigations too? 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.560 It's sure as fuck isn't going to be the insurrection. 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.320 I'll tell you what they're going to do. They're going 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:15.560 to turn the investigations over to Afghanistan and turn that 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:21.000 into Biden's Benghazi. That they are going to open up 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.120 investigations into their political opponents in the same way that 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.560 Donald Trump was and wanted the Department of Justice to 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.680 do on his behalf. And then when they regain the 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.960 Senate and Mitch McConnell once again picks up the gavel, 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:35.520 what do you think is going to be the number 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:39.520 one thing on his mind? Oh, probably ending the filibuster. 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.600 But he doesn't give a shit. He'll blow up whatever 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:45.000 he needs to blow up in order to block justices 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.839 from being sat so that he can finish the ransacking 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:53.080 of America's judicial system. Folks. The writing is on the wall, 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.679 and it is so fucking obvious to me what is happening. 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.560 And all I can think of is is this Department 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:07.000 of Justice in cahoots? Right? Like is Merritt Garland on 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.560 the Joe Mansion and Kirsten Cinema train. And I'm not 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.960 just throwing out bullshit theories, folks, but I have to 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.880 ask for people who have spent their lives inside of 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:20.880 the government system, inside of the justice system. How is 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:26.400 it that you can be so so absolutely blind to 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.679 what is happening in front of you. How is it 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.680 that you can decide that you want to preserve institutions 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.160 instead of the integrity of our democracy. How is it 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.200 that we're the only ones woke f nation that is 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.480 seeing the urgency of this moment, and nobody that is 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:47.199 actually at the lever of power is doing anything about it. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.440 This is the conversation that I'm going to be happening 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:54.200 with our friend Ellie Mistole coming up next, And folks, 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.800 I want to know how you are feeling, and I'm 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.480 going to be asking this every single day. Tell me 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.920 what you are thinking about the moves or non moves 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.600 that Merritt Garland has been making. And is it time? 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.679 Is it time that we say we need another ag 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.040 that this one is not it? You know, you would 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:17.120 think that after having been denied a hearing to become 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.320 the next Supreme Court justice, that Merritt Garland would understand 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:22.439 what we are up against, that there would be some 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:26.360 fire in his belly, and yet there is none. Coming 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:33.480 up next is my conversation with our friend Ellie Misto. Folks, 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.480 I am always so excited when I get to welcome 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.440 back my friend and yours, Ellie Misto, who is the 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.160 Justice correspondent for the nation and one of the most 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.080 brilliant folks to go on television to tell us about 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.840 our impending doom as it pertains to, you know, the 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:51.760 fact that we don't have a Department of Justice that 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.520 is working on behalf of enforcing what is that justice? 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.600 An accountability and responsibility as it pertains to pretty much 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:04.360 any god damn thing. Ellie, you've been doing your rounds. 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:09.079 You have been MSNBC batten people down on c SPAN. 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:13.760 I want to start with a article that came out 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:18.000 from The Rolling Stones, which was basically an investigative piece 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:25.880 covering two different participants and planners for the insurrection on 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:31.280 one six who are have identified not one, not two, 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.800 not three, but five different members of Congress that they 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:39.600 say that they were in contact with as they were 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.440 planning the insurrection. Not only that, but also talked about 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:50.320 the fact that Paul Gosser, Republican from Arizona, was dangling 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:55.200 around a pardon, a blanket pardon to those that were 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.640 planning and working on behalf of the Trump administration, as 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.520 well as said that they met with Mark Meadows. What 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:07.040 did you make of this Rolling Stones investigative article and 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:12.560 where we are right now with regard to persecuting everyone 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:17.640 involved in trying to overthrow our government ten months ago. Yeah, Look, 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.640 my first reaction was I told you so. I mean, look, 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:25.800 that this was an inside job was obvious the entire time. 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.160 There are lots of different ways that we can skin 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.600 that pant. But when you look at not just the 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.880 permissiveness of the Capitol Police, but when you look at 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.800 how the rioters and insurrectionists knew exactly where we got. Remember, 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:43.960 they ransacked the Parliamentarian's office. The Parliamentarian's office is one 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.920 of those places that you can't get to unless you've 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.800 been there already. That's not on anybody's you know, like 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.120 general map of Capitol Hill. They had to know where 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:54.760 to go. They had to know what they were looking 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.760 for in the Parliamentarian's office. And that's just one example. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.880 They're all these, they're all there. There are other examples, 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.400 you know. Jim Clyburn always bumps out to me where 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.439 he talks about how they didn't go to his office, 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.400 which is kind of well signed and very close to 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.840 the entrance where they broke through. They didn't go to 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:17.760 his well signed office. They went to some back office 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:22.559 place where Cliburne usually works out of Only other congress 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:27.400 people and their staffs would know that, no Rando insurrection. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.880 This would know that. So we already knew they had 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.000 inside help, and we were already pretty sure who it was. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.840 Paul Gosser has been one of their biggest defenders since 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:43.760 the attack. Neanderthal. Tara Green has been out front defending 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.559 these people. We already know both Brooks told them to 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:50.040 go to the Capitol to fight. Like, we already knew 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.559 who these people were, and so it's not entirely surprising 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.400 that now we have evidence that we have the testimony 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:02.480 that they had help. Is disappointing to me is that 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.600 this is coming out of the January sixth Commission, not 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:10.600 the Department of Justice, that is where we need these 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.160 investigations to be headed. Look, the January sixth Sunk Committee. 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.800 That's nice, that that's great. Congress has a role in oversight. 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.880 They have a role in legislating, understanding what happened and 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.840 how it happened, and what laws we might need to 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.400 pass to make sure it doesn't happen again that is 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:32.360 totally and completely within the powers of Congress. The Department 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.880 of Justice is where we go to get justice. The 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.440 Department of Justice is where we go to get punishment. 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.040 The Department of Justice is where we go to get 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:45.520 accountability for the crimes that these people committed. And we 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:49.000 don't see the Department of Justice taking a leading role 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:54.760 in punishing criminals and their co conspirators. You know, I 0:14:55.640 --> 0:15:00.360 was one of those people. I would argue, probably you know, 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.480 around the first quarter of this administration, saying that we 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.200 needed to give folks time, right, because they were coming 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:13.600 into a burning building with one fire extinguisher and every 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.480 single room was on fire, and so we needed a 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.960 moment to give folks a beat in order to get 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.560 themselves together. It's been ten goddamn months, right, It's been 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.680 ten months, and what we have seen out of this 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:30.160 Justice Department is that Merritt Garland is an institutionalist that, 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:35.640 during his time of having his own Supreme Court seat denied, right, 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:40.120 that he still believes somehow that you know, Republicans are 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.040 there to do their job, and you know that everybody 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:44.760 is above board and we just have to you know, 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:48.000 tighten a few screws in the Justice Department as opposed 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.400 to Oh, I don't know get to the root of 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.920 the root of how the Justice Department was used as 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.800 an arm in and extension of the Trump administration. So 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.320 my question here is that we have all of these 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.480 investigative journalists, right, we have, you know, this kind of 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:10.120 toothless one six commission. What if I mean, are we 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.760 out of time? Like do you think that the Justice 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.560 Department is working behind the scenes and then we're going 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.120 to come out with a parade of indictments that we've 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.840 been waiting for or is this just are we at 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:26.040 this point frankly hopeless and only can understand that maybe 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:30.440 I don't know, the DC District Attorney will decide to 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.080 investigate these members that were named in the Rolling Stones 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:37.160 article if the Department of Justice does not, you know, 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.080 I don't want to say we're out of time, because 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.760 there's always sign for dust. There's always sign for dust. 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:47.560 But it does not appear to me that the Justice 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.360 Department is working in secret. One of the ways that 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.800 I know that is if you look at what's happening 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:56.280 with Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon was a poenied by the 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.360 House Select Committee. He refused to answer this poenots because 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:04.439 Steve n is a lawless asshole, so he refused to 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.480 comply with those subpoenas. The House then held him in 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:12.040 content or sorry, voted to refer a criminal content, proceeding 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.760 back to the Justice Department, which now has the option 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.800 of going forward and charging Steve Bannon. You know what 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.560 I didn't say in all that explanation about Steve Bannon. 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.520 I didn't say that Steve Bannon is in jail because 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.080 they aint because he hasn't been subpoena by the Justice Department. Right, 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.520 So like if you if you defy a congressional subpoena, 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.800 this is the process. It goes to the vote, and 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.800 we have this and then we wait for it. If 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.400 you defy a subpoena from the FBI, which is part 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.720 of the Justice Department, you go to jail. You do 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.240 not pass go you do not collect two hundred dollars 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.879 from the Mercer family. You just go to jail. So, 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:52.040 if Steve Bannon had been subpoena, had been investigated by 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:56.440 the FBI and was pulling these shenanigans, he'd already had 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:00.199 his gin soap at in jail, right, So That's what 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.760 we don't see. We don't see people like Steve Bannon 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.360 being in jail. We don't see that people like Mark 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.520 Meadows have had documents or testimony requested for them from 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.359 the FBI. If you want to find out who planned this, 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:16.600 and you're the FBI, there's no way to do it 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:21.840 without talking to Bannon and Mark Meadows and Kayley and 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.199 you know that whole team. There's no way to do 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:25.960 it without talking to those people. There's no way to 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.240 do it without talking in a Donald Trump here, There's 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:29.960 no way to do it without talking to mob Brooks. 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:31.840 There's no way to do it without talking to Rudy Jillian. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.560 And yet we see that these people have not been 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.560 interviewed by the FBI, which tells me that the Justice 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.919 Department is doing nothing. And so is there going to 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.240 be some day later in the future where they decide 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.680 to do something. That's still a possibility. But from where 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.000 I sit, I do not see the evidence of the 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:55.000 Justice Department doing anything to prosecute those who are powerful. Look, 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.000 they're willing to find the book it, you know, dude 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.480 with the horse, all right, They're willing to go prosecute 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.800 and with cattle pride, I get like, but people have 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.639 to understand this is really one of the one of 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:06.360 the bigger things. This is one of the things that 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:11.920 distinguishes good prosecutors from bad prosecutors. Right. Look, I don't 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.840 have any length of prosecutors. And let's be honest, right 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.919 we look, there are good prosecutors. And one of the 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:21.359 things about good prosecutors is that they will go after 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:25.920 the powerful people responsibul. One of the things about bad 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.840 prosecutors is that they only go after the low hanging fruit, 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.359 the people who are easy to convict. Right, So it's like, 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.480 it's the difference between, you know, difference between prosecuting body 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:42.159 from the wire versus prosecuting stringer Bell. Right, Bodi is 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:45.120 a hopper, he has no power in the system. It's 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.480 easy to go find him and put him in jail. 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.040 Prosecuting the kingpins, that's hard, and that's what a good 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.520 prosecutor will do. They will do what is hard. They 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.800 will take the challenge of bringing accountabilities too. The powerful 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:02.919 Merritt Garland has shown no desire to do that now 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.000 and not back when he was a prosecutor before people 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.359 used when when Garlin was announced, I was not a 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.480 fan but other people were and they were like, oh, look, 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.240 he's strong on terrorism. He went and got Timothy mcveay. 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.560 Timothy McVay, the Oklahoma Simy bomber, he planted the bomb. 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.880 That's that's easy. That's I mean, it's not. I don't 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.280 want to say it's easy in a flippant way, but 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:26.880 from a prosecutorial perspective, getting the person who did the 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.920 thing is easy. Getting the person who planned the thing, 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:35.960 getting the co conspiras, getting the finance seer, that's hard. 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.440 And that's not something that we've seen Garland. Do you know. 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:44.320 Here's my problem, Ellie, is that one. I think first 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:48.439 of all, when Biden decided to choose Merritt Garland, I 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.359 thought that it was because I'm not a person like 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:55.480 yourself who is inside of the justice system and knows 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:59.080 these good people. From that I just thought that basically, 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.200 if you had been snubbed for three hundred and sixty 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.480 five days in getting a hearing, then maybe you would have, 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.000 you know, a bone to pick with the party that 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:13.520 denied you a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court. That 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:18.520 being said, this toothlessness from this Department of Justice, tell 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:25.760 us how explain how dangerous. This non move move by 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:29.439 the Justice Department to not take action against these people 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:33.159 is right now, not politically right, but in the sheer 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:38.320 like understanding that our democracy is not hanging on by 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.960 a thread like our democracy. In my humble opinion, people 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.959 listen to wokaf on a regular fucking basis it you 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:46.320 need to pull the plug. I don't believe that there 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:50.160 is a resuscitation here without aggressive action, and we see 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:53.760 no one that is actually aggressively taking any action of Note, 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:56.080 you thought that that girl was going to come in 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:58.920 for revenge. You didn't realize he was all about reconciliation, 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:02.080 right Like, that's like Garland doesn't want that soil doesn't 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.320 have that heat. The problem, and if I may put 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:08.399 on my Sarah Kensan or hat, the problem is that 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:13.200 when you try a coup and it failed and nothing 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:19.040 happens to you, you try again. That's about hyperbole, hyperberly, 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:23.480 that is history. The history of failed coups is when 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:27.360 the people who planned it don't get punished. They try 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:32.240 and try and try until they succeed overthrowing the government. 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.760 So the stakes are no less than that. The violet 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:39.520 over the throw of our government was planned and attempted 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:43.360 it failed the first time. Either the people who attempted 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:49.600 it and failed get punished for that, get dissuaded from 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:53.440 trying that again, or they try it again and maybe 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:57.080 next time it'll work, and they keep trying until it works. 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:00.159 That's that's where we are. And the Garland and the 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:04.200 Fundant administration doesn't seem to understand that, doesn't seem to 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.280 get that. You know, my my, I've got family, you know, 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.240 from all the world. The big part of my ancestry 0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:14.240 goes back to goes back to Haiti, a country that 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:18.000 often struggles with democracy. And one of the things that 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:21.399 you know, my my parents and my uncle have always 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:24.359 told me is that one of the worst things about 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:28.280 America is that it's never lost its democracy, so it 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.520 has no idea how to defend it because it doesn't 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:34.440 think it needs defending. You know, all these other advanced, 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:38.480 you know, Western style democracies, they've gone through a period 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.199 where they ain't got no democracy. They've gone through a 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:44.439 period where where democracy was taken away from them. You know, 0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:47.399 in England, they were bolted against the king and chopped 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:50.160 off Charles's head and you know, sixteen whatever, and then 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.680 the king came back and lost it, you know, and 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.400 it took them another couple hundred years to really get 0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.879 rid of their kings said that they're gotten rid of it. 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.120 I mean, I'm gonna go on and say they've gotten 0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.880 rid of it. You know, no offense to Queen Elizabeth Um, 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.200 you know, but that's that happened in England, That's happened 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.840 in you know, countries in the West Indies, that's happened 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.840 in countries in South America. They've had it, they've lost it, 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:15.680 They've had to go get it back. That's the SI 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:20.199 fans in America. We've never lost it, and so we 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:23.879 have this unearned belief that we can't lose it. And 0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.320 so right now when it is being threatened, we are 0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.520 not fighting for it, we are not defending it. We 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:33.480 have no clue how and you know, that's really troubling 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:35.960 if you want to keep it. You know, one of 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:40.440 the prevailing statements that is being made both by Democrats 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:45.560 and by Republicans, most notably Condoleeza Rice last week, which 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.119 was we need to just move on. The American people 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:53.280 don't care about one six, they care about gas prices. 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.600 They care about the fact that they are going to 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:58.480 have to pay more money for goods and services because 0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.280 of a quote unquote labor shortage, which isn't a labor shortage, 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.359