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Speaker 1: Time for our weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: running back Fred Taylor. It is week five, Fred, and

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars do not have a win yet.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope today's today. How are you, yeah, I'm good, Jap.

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Speaker 2: We're certainly hoping that there is today. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: got a lot of alumni back in town, you know,

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Speaker 2: and you know, no other better feeling for former players

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Speaker 2: to see our guys win. You know, even though we're

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Speaker 2: not in the building, we still root and support the

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Speaker 2: organization that helped change our lives, and we are usually

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Speaker 2: the ones that are sort of the bud of the jokes,

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Speaker 2: and we have to kind of maneuver, dip, dodge and

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Speaker 2: try our best to remain sane, especially in this moment

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Speaker 2: when the guys aren't you know, they're at the bottom

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Speaker 2: of the league. Let's just call it what it is,

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Speaker 2: but hopefully it does not rain on the alumni parade

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Speaker 2: and also Coach Coughlin's induction into the Pride of the Jaguars,

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Speaker 2: which I think more than anything is well long overdue

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Speaker 2: and certainly well deserved, and hopefully the guys can put

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Speaker 2: a good product out on the field so we can

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Speaker 2: tier on both ends, right, So that's what I'm looking

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Speaker 2: forward to, and that's what I hope happened. Fred.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the football team and the quarterback play.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he missed a couple big throws last week

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Speaker 1: with guys that were opened down the field. That's happened

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Speaker 1: a few times this year, and you know, at some

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Speaker 1: point you just got to make those plays. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's pressing or what the story is,

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Speaker 1: but what do you think the story is a treppor.

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Speaker 2: You know, if I had answer to that man, I

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Speaker 2: will give him the tripple and he'll make the entire

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Speaker 2: team better, you know, all in the snap of a

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Speaker 2: finger or maybe in the snap of a reception or

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Speaker 2: a completion or whatever it might be. J Trevor is

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Speaker 2: certainly struggling. We haven't seen him play this bad, and

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Speaker 2: we mentioned in the post game that if he was

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Speaker 2: playing as bad and winning, we wouldn't we wouldn't say

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Speaker 2: a whole lot. We might acknowledge it, but you know,

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Speaker 2: you win games, and NFL it's about winning games because

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Speaker 2: everyone's good and the margins are very slim. Uh. Some

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Speaker 2: guys are great, but in this particular case, we just

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Speaker 2: want to win. We don't want him to play great.

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Speaker 2: We want him to go out there manage expectations on

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Speaker 2: the small things. And that's just completing passes when you're

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Speaker 2: supposed to hit the receivers you're supposed to hit. You know,

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Speaker 2: we see acrobatic catches, We see receivers making those type

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Speaker 2: you know, sort of come away from that and cheer

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Speaker 2: for those guys like, wow, we've never seen that before.

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Speaker 2: But the same thing with quarterback making throws, making throws,

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Speaker 2: clutch scrambling, moving around in the pocket. You know you're

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Speaker 2: hitting a guy to allow them the tiptoe for an

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Speaker 2: out of bounce catch, all that stuff. Like, just make

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Speaker 2: the throws you're supposed to make. You don't have to

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Speaker 2: do anything special, Like it doesn't have to be an

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Speaker 2: to make that throw type moment. And that's what it

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Speaker 2: comes down in the NFL. Man, you you're supposed to

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Speaker 2: make the plays you're supposed to make. The elite guy

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Speaker 2: is supposed to go above and beyond the amount of

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Speaker 2: money he was made, And we always go back to that, Yes,

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Speaker 2: beyond the simple x's and o's. But in this particular

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Speaker 2: just make the simple throws that you're supposed to make.

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Speaker 2: And those those throws, if you make them, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Taylor with us print of the Jaguars running back and

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Speaker 1: what did you think of the running game last week?

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Speaker 1: ETN and especially Tank Bigsby and is this something that

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Speaker 1: is trending the right way to do week over week?

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Speaker 1: If they maybe found something in the running game?

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Speaker 2: Now, that was the big question in the offseason, you know,

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Speaker 2: while we were sitting there questioning the running game, which

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Speaker 2: they going to do? Yes, they can be better in

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Speaker 2: We've seen four we've seen three or four of these losses. Well,

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Speaker 2: although the run game did hurt them because the turnovers.

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Speaker 2: You can't have those. But in terms of running statistics

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Speaker 2: the run game has been present. It's the passing game

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Speaker 2: they're going to give you an opportunity run the ball,

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Speaker 2: set up play actions off of those same runs, marry

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Speaker 2: your deep shots, and if you don't have them deep there,

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Speaker 2: throw your checkdowns to the running backs that are seeping

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Speaker 2: establish a run. As much as they don't want to

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Speaker 2: play the position JP, you still got to run the ball.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise they're just gonna hammer down, pin their head their

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Speaker 2: a run, run, play action off that, throw the checkdowns

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Speaker 2: throw the checkdowns, but always try to keep the change moving.

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Speaker 1: Bred Taylor with us on the other side. This week,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what the status is for Jonathan Taylor, of course,

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Speaker 1: and Anthony Richardson and of course Joe Flacco came into

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's had a couple of big games against

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Speaker 1: where is he in terms of the hierarchy of running

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously this year JP the league is missing

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Speaker 2: know what that died, you know, just mean, but when

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Speaker 2: But I do like to see it because it reminds

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Speaker 2: he has all the tools, he has speed, he has

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Speaker 2: And you put JT. Even in spite of those injuries,

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Speaker 2: he's still the top five running back Jacobs in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: J T is certainly going to help that offense go.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna take pressure off of sixty eight year old

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Speaker 2: It as a veteran guy who's been around the block

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Speaker 2: I think they're they're not as dynamic with Joe back there,

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Speaker 2: to find a throw. He's still plenty accurate. You know,

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Speaker 1: You know you mentioned Flacco there, We'll see about Anthony

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Speaker 1: So anyways, but he's only started eight games in his career,

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Speaker 1: utilize Anthony Richardson, right or Am I off base there?

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Speaker 2: Now? You're you're you're right on point? JP Uh, you

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Speaker 2: know I don't want to see it for Richardson ar

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Speaker 2: Florida boy grew up in Gainesville right there at Florida Gators.

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Speaker 2: So I know I'm well and I root for him.

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Speaker 2: When I told him on the podcast, when he's not

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Speaker 2: And they're not just regular injuries because he's strong like.

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Speaker 2: And if they're not injuries, they're concussion and that's what

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Speaker 1: All right, Fred, final thought with you, I mean you

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Speaker 1: Kaflin going to the Pride of the Jaguars and you know,

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Speaker 1: I know you guys have a long history together and

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is it's fitting that the guy who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just an extension of who he is, who

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Speaker 2: February twenty first, nineteen ninety fours to day they hired

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Speaker 2: the ball. So JP Man, My my best call flin

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Speaker 2: memory is getting that call on Draft Day and his

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Speaker 2: son the young man or young man, are you ready

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Speaker 2: to build jag Warbar? But that wasn't gonna say no.

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Speaker 2: And uh, that's the reason everybody gets to hear my voice,

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Speaker 2: you know, each and every time we do pre imposed game,

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Speaker 2: each and every time something's involved with the Jaguard, it's

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Speaker 2: because he took a chance on this young kid out

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Speaker 2: of bel Glade, Florida, who wasn't one hundred percent sure

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Speaker 2: he was ready for the big time. But when he

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Speaker 2: pulled that trigger and he called my name, my life changed.

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Speaker 2: So I told him I'm forever and that it you know,

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Speaker 2: to him. And if I had to vote for the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, he would get that too, and I

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Speaker 2: would certainly put him in before I would vote myself.

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Speaker 2: And so that's how much I think of him, and

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Speaker 2: again it's certainly well deserved and hopefully we can finish

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Speaker 2: off his day with a big win.

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Speaker 1: Fred will talk to you a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: Man, well done. You know I'll be here, I'll be

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Speaker 2: ready