1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to 2 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always for tuning in. 3 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: If you are a fan of brain fever, you are, 4 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: if you are consumed with thoughts of consumption, this is 5 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: the episode for you, folks. Shout out super producer mister 6 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Max Williams. 7 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: What man, this got me thinking. There's a bunch that 8 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: we're not gonna get to in this episode. But man, 9 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: there's some fun sounding diseases out there. 10 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: Fun and quotation fingers. 11 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: I guess we don't talk about pink eye, but does 12 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: that sounds like the cutest of ailments? 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: You got a little pink eye? 14 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: I I uh, Ben Bolin, as a color blinds person, 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: have had the enviable position of having pink eye and 16 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: not knowing what pink eye looks like. 17 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: Truly, Ben, it's just kind of bloodshot and watery. It's 18 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: it's it's much. It's not pink at all, And when 19 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: you learn how you get it, it's really. 20 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 3: It's poop poop in the eye. 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: Right, everybody touch her but shut shout out to Shout 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: out to mister Noel Brown as well. Our hour avengers 23 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: are assembled. As you might be able to tell we're 24 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: slowly working our way out of our dirty humor phase. 25 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 26 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: We went to the depths of it, the nadir of 27 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: it with James. Oh sure, Yes, all sorts of descriptions 28 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: of farts. 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: It's sort of a trickle its way down into our 30 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: text exchanges. 31 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: Hasn't it been has a bit? Yes, it has been 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: little farty texts here and there. 33 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: You know, something for the Museum of Podcasts when our 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: time is done, or for hr depending or for both, 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: for both really, if we're being honest, that's why we 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: were so thrilled. Max is our research associate for this one. Look, 37 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: we talked about it in the past. The English language 38 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: is weird. It's colonizer language. It's kind of a pirate language. 39 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: They just took stuff willy nilly and kind of freestyled 40 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: the rules and a lot of stuff in this language 41 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: sounds very funny. Turns out diseases are no different, especially 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: the further back you go in the past. We got 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: to give a shout out to Esther Inglis r Kel 44 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: from Gizmoto, who had a lot of the initial guiding 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: force for this brief in this episode. 46 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: Today, dare we say inspiration ten serious medical problems with 47 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: cute see names. You know, here's one that you know 48 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: a lot of times on our other show stuff they 49 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: don't want you to know, Or at least, we used 50 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: to do more of these kind of fakemmercials, you know, 51 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: for stuff that kind of pertained to the theme of 52 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: the show, brought to you by our buddies that Illumination 53 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: Global Unlimited and oftentimes Ben. You would rattle off a 54 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 2: list of side effects and such for things that were 55 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: maybe a potential faux medic medication of some kind, you know, 56 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: satirical medication. Hell, you don't even have to go that far. 57 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: Pharmaceutical commercials are pretty satirical in and of themselves, but 58 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: you always throw in dropsy as one of the potential 59 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: ailments that might be caused by said fictional medication. I've 60 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: never really fully known what it was, and esther inglis 61 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: Arcle points out that it sounds like more like one 62 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: of Peter Rabbit's siblings than a disease. 63 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: You know, what is it? 64 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: Flopsy mopsie cottontail sort of the outlier. Dropsy would be 65 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: right at home, they would, It would at least fit 66 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: the rhyme scheme. 67 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: It also makes me think of Cropsy, which is just 68 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: a terrifying documentary. 69 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, somebod us who have never really fully known 70 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: what that was about either are just sound spooky. 71 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: And is it blair witchy? 72 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: Is is it really a documentary or is it sort of 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: like a Faulk cumentary. 74 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not gonna ruin it for people, but it 75 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: is technically so I guess the best way to describe 76 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: it is it's kind of like a documentary that goes 77 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: in a direction the filmmaker. 78 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 3: Did not expect. Okay, so it's not it's. 79 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: Got blair witch vibes, but it is true sort of 80 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: like that one about tickling. 81 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: You see that? God, yeah, that was frightening. 82 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, but I know that it does 83 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: that very thing. It's someone that sets out to make 84 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: a charming documentary about tickling rings and professional tickling or 85 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: tickling fetishists, and then it goes into like child kidnapping 86 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: or something crazy like that. 87 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 3: I think I'm exaggerate and assumed identity. What is dropsy? 88 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: Ben Drops the not to be confused with priapism, is 89 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: a kind of swelling known as a dema and bonus 90 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: points to any of the nerds who already knew what 91 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: priapism is. 92 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: Why swelling joke ising and they leave Italy leave. 93 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: It in that forever is the problem. Doctor, I'm way 94 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: too turned on. And he's like, you gotta stop listening 95 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: to shout a late at night man. 96 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 2: Or ridiculous history, because we've also been known to cause 97 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: some indefinite directions, especially during the James Joyce episode. 98 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: Oh Boy, Oh Boy, have we ever? That's where our 99 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: pal Alex circa shout out. We'll see if Alex gets 100 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: on air more often. But uh so, that's where we 101 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: had to warn our our coworker Alex. We're like, hey, 102 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: not all of our episodes are like this. Please understand, 103 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: we are trying to be adults. Adema is or edema 104 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: is a swelling caused by too much fluid, too many 105 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: cooks of fluid trapped in the tissues of your body, 106 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: and unlike priaptism, it can affect all parts of your body. 107 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: Any part can get that smoke. 108 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: Doesn't a demo also sound like it should be the 109 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: name of a tool album? 110 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: It does, really surprised it's not. It feels like Maynard 111 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: has some opinions about that already, but noll. I think 112 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: a DIMA is more likely to show up in your extremities, 113 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: like your legs, your. 114 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: Feet, Yeah that's right, feet, hands, fat neck. No, I'm kidding, 115 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: I made that one up, but yeah. It also sometimes 116 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 2: is indicated by the symptom of having stretchy or shiny skin, 117 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: swelling or puffiness of the tissue like underneath the skin again, 118 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: especially in the arms and legs, belly or abdominal swelling 119 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: that is beyond you know, just the typical pooch that 120 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: that many of us are blessed with. And also a 121 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: feeling of leg heaviness, so like a bit of a 122 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: leaden foot kind of center. 123 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now all of a sudden, you feel like your 124 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: legs are two suitcases you're carried around. 125 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: And you got it. 126 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: Need for speed, baby. And here's what happens. So, this 127 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: dropsy occurs when tiny blood vessels in your bodies, aka 128 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: the capillaries, start to leak fluid. The fluid that they 129 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: leak will build up in surrounding tissue, and that leak 130 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: per the Mayo clinic leads to the swelling Mayo clinic. Also, 131 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: they're better, in my opinion than WebMD. WebMD everything is 132 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: cancer the Mayo Clinic a little more reasonable, and they say, look, 133 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: you can get dropsy from sitting in one position too long. 134 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: That's happened to a lot of people with office jobs 135 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: or during the pandemic eating too much salty food. And 136 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: here's another one. This is the quote being pregnant. So 137 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: that just just going to add that plot twist on 138 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: one of the strangest and often most difficult parts of 139 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: your life, ladies. 140 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to bring something up really quickly. 141 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: It's it's sort of related, unrelatedly related, but it sort 142 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: of speaks to this whole you know what di diseases 143 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: speak to, if not the condition of being human art 144 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: installation that I think it's somewhere in Scandinavia, and I'm 145 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure exactly where, but I only just 146 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: now found out about it. But speaking of leaking fluid, 147 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have heard of this. 148 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: It is this robot hydraulic arm that is slowly, has 149 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: been for years, slowly leaking hydraulic fluid, and its own 150 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: only function is to sweep the hydraulic fluid back into 151 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: itself and collect it's. 152 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: Oh I saw this recently, Yeah it is, Yeah, yeah. 153 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: Wild, and it is like very if you think about it, 154 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: Like what better metaphor for like human condition than that. 155 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: You know, we're all just slowly leaking fluid and trying 156 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: our best to gather it back up and shove it 157 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: back into ourselves, knowing that one day the clock will 158 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: run out. 159 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: I love sisaphia and art, that's what I call that stuff. 160 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: Like I love figure where the you know the little 161 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: mechanism where the you put something on a box and 162 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: that opens up grabs it. Yeah, or or you have 163 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: a switch that turns on the mechanism that turns itself 164 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: off and closes the box. 165 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: Is the is the little crane that dips its beak 166 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: in the water kind of kind of in that vein 167 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: or that's I. 168 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: Think that's kind of. 169 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a kissing cousin, and this cousin at the 170 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: very least. 171 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: It's it's a dropsy cousin. We work on it. 172 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: But this this is a serious condition. And uh, being 173 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: pregnant is a serious condition, but so is dropsy. Of 174 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: course they're very different conditions, but they will have an 175 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: effect on your life. Also to that point about our 176 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: good friends at Illumination Global Unlimited and their predilection for 177 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: fine print. This condition dropsy can be a known side 178 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: effect of some medicine, So you might get high blood 179 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: pressure medication and the doctor might say, hey, just for 180 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: a heads up, man, have you heard about dropsy? 181 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: Pull up the Wikipedia. Yeah, it's it's it's it's a 182 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: good read. 183 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: It reminds me of another one that not going to 184 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: get to in depth, but I think it's worth a mention. 185 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: Gout is another condition that has a sort of a 186 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: silly name and causes certain types of inflammation or like 187 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: I believe it's urate crystals that accumulate in your joints, 188 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: and it can cause all kinds of inflammation and swelling 189 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: in the foot and the extremities I believe, but I 190 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: think it's largely in the foot. 191 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: It's it's arthritis, Like you said, too much uric acid. 192 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: Which which is usually a symptom of eating poor a 193 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: poor diet. 194 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: I associate it with very prominent historical figures like the kings, 195 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: the emperors, that's right, because they add all that rich 196 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, potted meat and stuff. In Franklin famously a 197 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: gout enthusiasts. 198 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: There's a there's a really good episode of King of 199 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: the hill where Bobby gets gout because he becomes obsessed 200 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: with this delicatessen that opens like in their mall or something, 201 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 2: and he's just constantly eating like really rich you know, 202 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: deli meats and like, you know, what is it, like 203 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: liver worst and stuff. And he develops gout as a child, 204 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: which is usually not when you would develop goutgut as 205 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: sort of a condition of more, more more seasoned individuals. 206 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,239 Speaker 1: It's like a lifestyle condition also to amend it very quickly. Napoleon. 207 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm referencing Napoleon three, and I gotta tell you before 208 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: we move on. I have a pretty good friend of 209 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: mine in the Atlanta area, and a few years ago 210 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: he told me he had gout, and I was because 211 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know much about it except what I've read 212 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: of historical leaders. I was low key impressed, and I 213 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: started treating him a little bit like an aristocrat because 214 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: I was like, that's a rich person disease. 215 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: I wonder if what's our same friend, because I know 216 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: a friend, an Atlanta friend, who also has gout and 217 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: it has definitely caused him to have to reassess his 218 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: diet and and stay away from certain things. Wouldn't that 219 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: be a trip if it was the same person, we 220 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: will we will not name names to protect the gout. 221 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: It right right? 222 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: Uh, you know, no one's above about of the gout, 223 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: and it may indeed be more prevalent than we think. 224 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh man. 225 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: So oh well, one last thing, the gout to a 226 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: lot of uh preserved seafood can cause it because of 227 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: a lot. I think it's very high in salt and 228 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: things like cod and canned tuna, and if you eat 229 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: too much of that stuff, it can you can develop gout. 230 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: Finally, for anybody who's like, man, this gout sounds like 231 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: a hot new thing. How do I get in on 232 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: the ground floor? 233 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: Bro? Have you been getting ads for like fancy tinned fish? 234 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you're talking about fish wife, that's what 235 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: uh huh yeah, yeah yeah yeah. 236 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 2: I'd tempted. And I find the idea of tinned fish disgusting. 237 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: But when they slap a fancy looking, colorful logo on 238 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: it and use the word, you know, like gourmet, I'm like, 239 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: sign me up, send me those sardines and the mail. 240 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: I kid you not about Once a year I go 241 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: through and intelle it's because of my prepper stuff. I 242 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: go through another tinned survival foods phase, and tin fish 243 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: is so popular in Europe. In Japan, there's a oh god, 244 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: maybe we do an episode about it. There's a chain 245 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: of bars called Mister Canzo and their can Zumies and 246 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: what they do They just sell canned food and they 247 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: heat it up for you. 248 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, man, but there's arobably some nice options though, right, 249 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: like some different flavors and all kinds of difference. 250 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: Oh, there's some great stuff, but then there's also some 251 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: stuff that Americans would find pretty disturbing, like canned bear 252 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: is like canned ballue. 253 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: They've always wanted to eat the bar rather than having 254 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 2: the bar eat me, so to. 255 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: Sew it up, Like I fear that, I feel the 256 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: opposite of you when it comes to again. It's like 257 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: a continuing, decade long, seasonal fascination with tin fish because 258 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: I love the idea of it. 259 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: I feel like it should. 260 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: Be it's it can be considered kind of fancy in 261 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: Europe too, But then when I open it, I'm always thinking, man, 262 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: I could have just gone to the grocery store and 263 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: gotten you know, a fresh fish. 264 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: Or you know, it's definitely not the apocalypse times. Yet 265 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: I could have just saved this, you know, for when 266 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: it really counted. 267 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I feel that even the most opportunity kind 268 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: of you know. 269 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: When when we filmed we filmed something for stuff, they'll 270 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: once you know where. I was unpacking in MRI the 271 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: whole time. In the back of my head, I'm like, 272 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: I better know regret this, I better get my crap together. 273 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: I got to immediately replace this what happens if the 274 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: world ends? Because I'm a crazy person, so we. 275 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: All go a little mad sometimes. 276 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: We mentioned that that dropsy can be a sign of 277 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: more serious stuff and that you should you should should 278 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: if you are experiencing the shiny skin, any of these 279 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: inflammations of the extremities, you should go see a doctor 280 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: because it could potentially be a you know, a symptiment 281 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: and of itself, especially if it's accompanied by shortness of breath, 282 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: any kinds of chest pains, or irregular heartbeat. 283 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: And luckily, so what we're going to do with LI 284 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: is we're going to talk about symptoms. We're also going 285 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: to talk about how they are usually mitigated, treated. 286 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: Or cured. 287 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: We are not medical professionals. Do see a medical professional 288 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: if you suspect you have any of these symptoms or 289 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: filling discomfort. 290 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: I'm glad we got that in there. 291 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: We should have said it at the top, but yes, 292 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: we are not doctors of medicine, so how do you 293 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: cure this? Luckily, sometimes it goes away on its own. 294 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: Other treatments might include wearing spanks, kid, you not wearing 295 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: compression garments, that's right, and trying to trying to leverage 296 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: your circulatory system, so raising the affected area higher than 297 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: your heart. You can get medication to flush out that 298 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: extra fluid. A big thing, just like you mentioned with gout, 299 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: A big thing is changes in diet or maybe finding 300 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: different medications if the side effects lead to a DMA. 301 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: And Max, I fully agree with you. You have a new 302 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: here in the brief where you said something we all 303 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:09,119 Speaker 1: learned recording podcasts during the lockdown. Don't sit for extended periods. 304 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: Get your steps in. I think all three of us 305 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: live in houses with stairs, right. 306 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I know my studios in the basement, 307 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: and I record here, work here for all of our stuff. 308 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: Up and down yeah all day long at least forgot 309 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: take it for granted, actually, but I definitely am up 310 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: and down at least ten or thirteen times a day, 311 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: if not more so, there's that. 312 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. I love going, I love go. 313 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: We've got so you guys haven't seen the new place, right, Yeah, 314 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: you haven't seen this new place yet. It has an 315 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: egregious number of patios, as for an apartment has two 316 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: patios and a rooftop. And so, whenever I'm on a 317 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: phone call, just so you guys know, because we do 318 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: talk all the time, whenever I'm on a phone call 319 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: and I sound like I'm I'm huffing a little bit, 320 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: and I don't have the video on, I guarantee you guys, 321 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm just promping from the roof to the first floor 322 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: and back back in, back and forth. I'm like a salmon. 323 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm like the the noble passage of the salmon. Has 324 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: nothing to do with dropsy. You probably are wondering, folks, 325 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: where does the name dropsy come from. It's time for 326 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: one of our favorite things, a little bit of etymology. 327 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: Azah. 328 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, we're huge fans of etymology. Here on Ridiculous History, 329 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: Miriam Webster traces the etymology of drops to a Middle 330 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 2: English word, uh drop easy. I don't know why I 331 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: said it, like Italian. It's Middle English, so let's call 332 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: it drop drop Nope, how is the Middle English pronoun. 333 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: There you go? Or which is actually short for a 334 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: not that much longer word. 335 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: It just has a weird why at the beginning, which 336 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: would be a drop I guess right, yeah, yeah, so 337 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: let's just shorten that easy to drop the which why 338 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: could well be silent here too. It feels like what 339 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: a silent why would do? But who knows into English 340 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: is bonkers. 341 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: I had to read, uh, Canterbury Tales, which is, you know, 342 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: Chaucer's great unfinished work. It sounds like the Jabberwockie. 343 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: You know, I love it. I love it. 344 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: It's like it reminds reading the reading Canterbury Tales in 345 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: the original version of English it's written in. It is 346 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: exactly like hearing that song from that Italian guy who 347 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: didn't know English, and he was like, this guy, what 348 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: I've got? Okay, we've got to play hit me with 349 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: one clip? Okay, so if you guys can see, uh, 350 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: this guy looks sort of like a werewolf with glasses. 351 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: Uh, let's fast forward to where he's actually singing to 352 00:18:58,680 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 3: cut them off. 353 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: Bat Yeah, now you're dead on man, it's like I 354 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 2: always I said, jabberwocky vibes. But because it's always, it's 355 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: all like ill swissing and pil will in the WHIPI 356 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: dip in the sweet bee. You know, it's like, come on, man, 357 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: what is this nonsense? I love it exactly. 358 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And do check out the rest of that the 359 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: rest of that clip, because I believe it. I believe 360 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: that song came about because the musicians said, Uh, these Italians, 361 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: the Italian public, they just love English songs. It doesn't 362 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: matter what you're saying. I could just make a song 363 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: that sounds like that language and it would blow up. 364 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: And he was right, He was all right with that one. 365 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: And what might mystify some of us about the etymology 366 00:19:53,680 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: here is and are actually from Latin a much more 367 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: reasonable word hydropssis hydrop Okay, okay, I don't know why 368 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: that seems like less of a twist than but I'm 369 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: just looking for excuses to say at this point. 370 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: And Ben, to your point about gout, I think this 371 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 2: is also true of dropsy, that there are some notable 372 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: individuals that were afflicted with this condition. 373 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we're looking at this, Uh Beethoven, it 374 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: appears did not roll over as often as he should 375 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: have and as a result, had a dema. Uh and 376 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: then you know, uh famously not great President Andrew Jackson 377 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: also had the dropsy. 378 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 3: And uh. 379 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: Also, when I hear drops the I think I'm gonna 380 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: get the dropsy on you. 381 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: You know, I feel like drop trou et cetera. 382 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 383 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: This this however, look, folks, we we talked off air. 384 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: We know this is probably going to be a two 385 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: parter because there are a lot of these diseases and 386 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: a lot of them have funny names. That's what we 387 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: knew before we went into this. So we're not going 388 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: to get to everything today, but we do want to 389 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: introduce you to just a couple moore. Uh, here's the 390 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: one that always confused me. I know somebody who got 391 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: this hand, foot, and mouth disease, the combo meal of 392 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: medical conditions. 393 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: I've got heard we got to bring meals into it. 394 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 3: But have you heard that kids can get this? Young kids? 395 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: It's the most common young kids. 396 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: Actually, you get in a similar way you get pink eye. 397 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: Okay, all right. 398 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: I always thought it sounded like a condition for non 399 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: human animals, like growing up, I always thought it was 400 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: something you know they got on the farm. 401 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: I think there's a version of it that that is 402 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: that that is hoof and mouth disease, which is a 403 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: farm animal version of this condition. 404 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken. Ah, good, so you're not wrong. 405 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: It's interesting because the very similar named, but you cannot 406 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: transmit them like you can't get the animal version of it. 407 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: That's not called zoticonic. 408 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, potentially the COVID was potentially zoonotic. It's not related 409 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: to foot and mouth disease, which is also called hoof 410 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: and mouth disease. 411 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: Jeez, guys, I'm started to think hands are sort of 412 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 3: dirty or related. 413 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: It's a hand in glove disease, which is a bizarre, 414 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: unhealthy obsession with the music of Morrissey. 415 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: Right right, or related to hand feet disease, which is 416 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: a condition I made up where your feet slowly transformed 417 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: into hands. 418 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: Terrifying you wouldn't be able to balance. It's untenable. Then 419 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: it's untenable. 420 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 3: It's it's unreasonable. What kind of world are we living in? 421 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: Well, we're living in a world with hand, foot and 422 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: mouth disease still, and it's uh, it's got it's real. 423 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: That's the street name the real name for this thing 424 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: is we kid you not even worse, mister Brown. Do 425 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: you want to do the honors on this one? 426 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely? 427 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: Uh sorry, Uh cocksacky, cocksacky man. I saw the funniest 428 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: clip from I think it was like outtakes from between 429 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: two ferns. Was Zach Galifanakis and he was talking to 430 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: what he harre else in the other one Matthew McConaughey, 431 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: and he goes, so, when you and Woody were both 432 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: on the set of Drew Detective, wasn't there a concern 433 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: that somewhere in the world a sack was not being hackied? 434 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 3: I remember seeing that the McConaughey cracks up. 435 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: You know that I love the I love the bloopers 436 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: because they show you that everybody is actually having a 437 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: good time for the most but not completely agree but 438 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: addictcumber Batch, Uh so, if you didn't have your accent, 439 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: do you think people would know that you're not. 440 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: A good actor? That's very funny. 441 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: These jokes are so good because they go they start, 442 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: you think you know where they're going to go, and 443 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: then they take you somewhere else completely and they're so quick. 444 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 3: Kind of almost like norm McDonald's style. 445 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: They are these little mini stories that are in joke 446 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 2: form kind of. 447 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: I think it's really brilliant stuff. 448 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, cocksacky, Ben tell us about cocksacky. 449 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's going to do a lot for stand up comedy. 450 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: Cocksacky or cocksacky virus is the cause of hand foot 451 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: mouth disease. It lives in the digestive track. It creates 452 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: these blisters on your mouth, your tongue, your esophagus. As 453 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: our pal Esther Inglis article points out, it's a real thing. 454 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: But Esther says, quote, naming it cocksacky virus is like 455 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: naming a planet uranus. Someone should have said something before 456 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: it was made official. I tend to agree, But it's 457 00:24:54,440 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: tough because cocksacky is a hilarious word, right, especially if 458 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: you are a very high minded intellectual like all of 459 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: us listening today. But it may not have anything to 460 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: do with the sort of more body or lurid associations. 461 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: Nope, but does not refer to any swimsuit area related things. 462 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 463 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: Instead, we'll get to that one in a second hand 464 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: foot and mouth disease or HFMD to all the people 465 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: unfortunate enough to have to deal with it, so often 466 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: that they just made it an acronym HFMD. It's mild, 467 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: it is contagious. Like we mentioned, it is common in 468 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: very young children, and it's not something that has a 469 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: specific treatment, which was which surprised me because it seems 470 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: like it can, as you guys point out, be really 471 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: common in kids. Why can't you fix it? It's been 472 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: round long enough, they I think the solution is like 473 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: the early days of COVID quarantining and washing your hands. 474 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: I gotta I got a finger gun from Max, so 475 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that. Yes, I feel so cool when 476 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: people throw the finger gun. 477 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: So symptoms of this quite silly signing disease are not 478 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: silly at all. They include things like fever. You mentioned 479 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: the sores, but also u sore throat, additional rashes that 480 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: can appear on the buttocks, even soles of the feet. 481 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: And it actually the name refers to the virus that 482 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: causes it, which is of course, the COCKSACKI virus. This 483 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: is all one word we're gonna hear about what COCKSACKI 484 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: actually is. It's it's it's it's a little less remarkable 485 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: than you might think, but also pretty funny as as 486 00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 2: to why it's called this. 487 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got to note something here. 488 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: It may sound like it may be something we could 489 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: get lost in the shuffle, but I'm really glad you 490 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: pointed out that people can get these blister like lesions 491 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: on the souls of their feet. Having any kind of 492 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: injury on the souls of your feet is incredibly dangerous. 493 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: It's also phenomenally uncomfortable. It's so dangerous in fact, that 494 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: there used to be a specific type of torture used 495 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: to punish people called bastinado. Have you guys heard of this. 496 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: It's a punishment from the maritime days, or at least 497 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: that's where I associate it. 498 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: It sounds like ostinato, though, which is a musical term 499 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: that I believe refers to kind of like very kind 500 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: of clipped, sort of repetitive phrases and classical music. 501 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 3: What is a bostonado? It is? This is frighteningly specific. 502 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: It is the practice of beating the souls of someone's 503 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: bare feet. It's kind of flogging, just delivered to the 504 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: bottom of your feet so that you can't run away. 505 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 3: Think about the evil sanctions. 506 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: Fond of that they did it like to the whole 507 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 2: like soccer team when they disapproved of their performance. 508 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: I think so it's it's loved by terrible people throughout history, 509 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: and it's been used all across the world just because 510 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: it's so effective. But that's me just going out of 511 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: the way to mention specific types of torture, which is 512 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: a totally different episode. 513 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: We got to stay hooked on this. 514 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: Hoof foot and mouth disease thing ahead, foot and mouth, hand, 515 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: foot of mouth. Yes, hoof foot and mouth is the 516 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: one for shape shifters. The good thing is it's not zoonotic. 517 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: And I think we've already very clearly implied that young 518 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: children get it more often because it's in the digestive tract. 519 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: They need diaper changes, they need help using the bathroom. 520 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: They also tend to, you know, be very exploratory and 521 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: putting their hands in their mouths and stuff, and they 522 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: can't see germs. So until you develop object permanence, are 523 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: germs even real? Or is that just a story your 524 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: parents tell you because they're lame and they don't want 525 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: you to have fun and poop yourself. 526 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: Oh jeez, Louise. 527 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: So we've been teasing a little bit that this kind 528 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: of goofy sounding name ain't for nothing, right. A lot 529 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: of these names come from perhaps old English translations, you know, 530 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: the maybe scientists that discovered them. There's any number of 531 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 2: reasons that a thing can be called what it is 532 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: in the medical community. This one, however, is actually named 533 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: after a pretty small town on the Hudson River where 534 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: this Cocksacki virus was first isolated. 535 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: Right, and isolated here doesn't mean that the disease he 536 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: started in this place. It means that this was the location, 537 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: like in this town, that's where they found the thing 538 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: and were able to get it closely studied and able 539 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: to point to it and say, okay, we've figured out 540 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: the cause of handfoot, headfoot and mouth disease. Sorry, I 541 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: keep wayed to call it hoof, foot and mouth disease. 542 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: Now just the internal it, you know. Yeah, So okay. 543 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: They get described by this guy who's named Gilbert Doldorf. 544 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 3: He was, yeah, great name, great name. 545 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: Gil He was looking into outbreaks in nineteen forty seven 546 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: and upstate New York, and he was pretty sure these 547 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: were outbreaks of something called polio militis UH. And through 548 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: this investigation he figured out that Cocksacki virus named after 549 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: COCKSACKI New York is the is the cause of ham 550 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: foot and mouth disease. And there's an interesting rabbit hole here. 551 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: This is like, you know how, there are a lot 552 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: of small towns where they have the one thing that 553 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: they're famous for. It like the one the festival, every festival, 554 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: the particular type of macromain, whatever, the fourth largest frying pan, 555 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: and so on, world's biggest Adirondack chair exactly. Koksacky is 556 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: probably most well known for the Koksaki virus. 557 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's kind of a bummer. I 558 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: don't know if it's the pr they want, that's the 559 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: one they got. Sometimes you just got to make do 560 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: uh well. 561 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: Max is an interesting note here, you say, as of 562 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Kokshaki's population is just north of eight thousand people, 563 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: and there is quote no mention whether or not is 564 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: the epicenter of the New York state pornography scene. 565 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: Oh that's what they're That's what they're known for them. 566 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: That could be their other thing. We're not sure yes 567 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: or no. But wait wait, you can either confirm Nordon 568 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 3: I confirmed Nordon nine. Yeah, but I'm dirty, dirty boy. 569 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: I've been reading too much joy we just did that episode. 570 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: Uh no, no, who can play? 571 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: Do check out our James Joyce episode and also all 572 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: of us also you guys, Maya Kulpa. I know I 573 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: instant sometimes I instantly turned into like congressional investigator. I 574 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: don't think that was necessary. It's like, so, mister Williams, 575 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: you have an interesting notes here. How would you respond? Uh? Luckily, Luckily, 576 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: these two conditions that we explored today are not fatal, 577 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: and they are often going to go away on their own. 578 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 579 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: Small changes can help mitigate them. But that's not the story. 580 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: With all the diseases, all the weird diseases, we're gonna 581 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: cover more, I think in part two, because we're all 582 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: having a lot of fun with this, we're gonna get 583 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: to Ricketts, mumps, brain fever, and. 584 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you guys. 585 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: Uh, one of my favorites for years and years years 586 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: has been consumption, entirely because of Doc Holliday and Tombstone. 587 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: I will be your Huckleberry Ben. Thank you for asking. 588 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: It's I like a lot of these disease. I like 589 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: a lot of these diseases. Y'all can quote me on that. 590 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: The ones that are like band names. There's like the mumps, 591 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: you know, the consumption, the flu even you know, but 592 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: like I think it gives it a lot of weight 593 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: and gravitaze. When you add to the to the beginning 594 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: of oh. 595 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. 596 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: Nobody says, like, well they did you say the common cold, 597 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: but no one says the cold it's a cold flu. Yeah, 598 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: But like there is what is it that determines whether 599 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: something is worthy of getting a the You never say 600 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: the rickets. You might say I got a case of 601 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: the rickets, a case of the say the rickets? 602 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: You know. 603 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, Ben, Do you guys have any theories 604 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: about this? I'm intrigued. 605 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: It's it's interesting because we see something similar. I can 606 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 1: talk about how it happens in geography and geopolitics, Like 607 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, there are some places they're called the Gambia 608 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: or the Ukraine. 609 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 3: The Gambia. A lot of folks are moving away from 610 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 3: that now. 611 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: They don't care for it because, at least in the 612 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: case of Ukraine, the argument is calling it the Ukraine 613 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: seems to imply that it is just a region of 614 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: another country. 615 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 3: Like how you go to. 616 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: Right, like how you go to the southwest or something, 617 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: So I get that, but I don't think that's the 618 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: same logic behind diseases. Maybe someone can help us with this, 619 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: because honestly, I should have been looking this up, you guys, 620 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: but instead I watched Tombstone and I went through list 621 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: of doc holiday quotes. 622 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 3: So that's on me. That's my bad. 623 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: Well, a little bit of Tombstone trivia. I believe the 624 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 2: guy that directed Tombstone is the father It might be 625 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 2: not directed, it might be cinematographer, is the father of 626 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 2: one of my current favorite weirdo directors, Panos Cosmotos behind 627 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 2: the Beyond the Black Rainbow and Mandy and that awesome 628 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 2: the visit, I believe is what it's called in the 629 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: Goo Yamadultoro Cabinet of Curiosities. But yeah, his father I 630 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: think directed Tombstone. Wow, John and breenco that's all I 631 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: got about it. Just over your grave. Oh yeah, those 632 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: are good, those are very quitable and uh and uh yeah, 633 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: I think of al Kilmar did a really good job 634 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: at portraying a man with the consumption exactly. 635 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, agreed, And we hope that you have enjoyed 636 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: this episode. 637 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 3: Folks. 638 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: Uh, this is coming to you hot fresh on a Thursday. 639 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: We hope everybody has a good weekend. We will be 640 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: back with more terrible real life diseases that we think 641 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: have funny names. 642 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: Thanks of course, mister. 643 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: Max Williams, our super producer, our research associate. Thanks to 644 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: Thanks to our own funny disease, Jonathan Strickland aka the 645 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: Quist missed the heck out of him. 646 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 3: The human stains. That's a book, isn't that? Bye bye Roth. 647 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, one day, one day Jonathan might hear all these 648 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: all these weird things we shout him out as at 649 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: the end of episodes. I hope he doesn't get a 650 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: compli compilation uh track of it, or maybe we should 651 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: give it to him for you know. And into the 652 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: year present. Thanks also to mister Alex Williams. Thanks to 653 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: Alex Circa, we have an abundance of Alex's Alex i alexis. 654 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 2: Indeed, Chris Rossiota is here and Spirit Jeff Coates and 655 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 2: do please check out her new podcast called on Theme, 656 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: which is a story about black storytelling in all its forms. 657 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: Yes, thanks also to our pals over at Ridiculous Crime, 658 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: Zarah and Elizabeth, producer Dave. Thanks to everyone for tuning 659 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 1: in we can't wait to hang out and go find 660 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: more ridiculous diseases. I've got to stop reading doc holiday quotes. 661 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to be coming in hot with a terrible 662 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: holiday impression in the next episode. 663 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 3: Ah, you do you, buddy, and we'll see you next time, folks. 664 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 665 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.