1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna be big. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna make it. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 3: It's gonna die, almost killed too. 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 4: Nobody was getting out of that. 5 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Who in the world at this happened? 6 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 5: Blame the game? 7 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 6: Who was getting high real gas? 8 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 7: Wherever you at, He'll smoke that whole shit. 9 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 5: Damn h. 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 8: We got the one and only fat Joe. When did 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 8: you run across uh Biggie? And what kind of relationship 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 8: did y'all have? 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 9: I have flowed Joe out, and Uh Big goes up 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 9: to this place called the Lyricsens Lounge. Puffy's with him. 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 9: It's the same puff Daddy. Puff Daddy wasn't rich, but he. 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 10: Was the same puff Daddy. He kept that energy, that 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 10: same energy. 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 9: Right, So Biggie's up there in the Lyricis Lounge. I'm 19 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 9: already flowed, Joe's already out. I'm walking around my venue 20 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 9: trying to give it to the DJ so they could 21 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 9: play it. Back in the days, you couldn't just press 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 9: playing that. 23 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: Everybody got it. 24 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 9: You had the word of mouth, hand delivershit. And so 25 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 9: I'm sitting in the crowd and Biggie's just battling like 26 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 9: ten different killing them all. 27 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: And he had a backpack on it. Puff kept going, 28 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all, y'all can't fuck with my man. 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 5: Y'all can't. 30 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: And that's how I met Big. 31 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 9: So Big was like, oh shit, you flowed Joe, You 32 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 9: fed Joe, And I was like, what's up? 33 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 11: Man. 34 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 9: I actually booked him because on my side, hustle besides rapping, 35 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 9: because money making money rapping was like seasonal when you're 36 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 9: not really big. So it's like you put a record out, 37 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 9: you make a lot of money than them other months 38 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 9: you slow. So I used to throw parties, like promote parties. 39 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 9: So I had booked Biggie for his first show ever. 40 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 9: He was at the Fever and and you know what, 41 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 9: nine two nine three nine three, this Biggie's first show 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 9: every and the fly says partying bullshit and all that, 43 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 9: and then we became tight ever since then I go visit. 44 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 9: I knew he was gonna be big, and that's why 45 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 9: he was still underground. I just was like, Yo, this guy, 46 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 9: he's special. And then me and him was tight. I 47 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 9: tell y'all some shit. Me and him was tight. And 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 9: I remember when he met jay Z because he stopped. 49 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 9: Me and Big used to talk every day. He said, yo, man, 50 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 9: it's this guy. 51 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: He's nice. 52 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 9: I've been hanging out with him. His name's jay Z. 53 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 9: That boy nice. I ain't gonna lie to you. That's 54 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 9: on everything. I never said that in an interview. He definitely. 55 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 9: I remember when he met jay Z and he was 56 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 9: hanging out with him every day, and he was like, Oh, 57 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 9: I'm with jay Yo, this, this, that. So he saw 58 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 9: what I saw in him. He saw that shit jay 59 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 9: Z immediately. 60 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying. 61 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 8: So, how did you guys relationship continue to grow through it? 62 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 8: I mean, obviously you're established now. 63 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 12: He's a great, great story. 64 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: No Biggie. 65 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 9: To this day, there's nobody's career that has went more 66 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 9: viral than Biggie Smalls. Biggie Smalls went for wearing the 67 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 9: army jacket to the next day rocking the tucks. I 68 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 9: Dow'm in tuxedo with gators and the fur arm and 69 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 9: going number one, two and three. We never seen no 70 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 9: shit like this, Like overnight, he went from Biggie Small 71 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 9: to the notorious me I gene number two, two and 72 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 9: three Brooklyn, we did it like that. Shit happened Mike Bhoom, right, 73 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 9: And so we know because we're in the situation of 74 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 9: power that a lot of times people's opinions, We at 75 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 9: least perceived that people's opinions change on us because we. 76 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 10: Got success or status. 77 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: So I'm even guilty of that. 78 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 9: When Biggie was like number one, two or three, I 79 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 9: remember walking up to a Vibe party and I just 80 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 9: seen like two hundred people around of one truck and 81 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 9: I ain't even know who's that. 82 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: And when I. 83 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 9: Seen it, it was Biggie standing on the truck and 84 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 9: me myself, Joseph Cartagina myself looking at that, I was like, 85 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 9: I'm not gonna go over there. 86 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 10: He probably changed. 87 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: And he sees me right at the moon. Yo, god, yo, 88 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: I go over there. 89 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 9: So then he grabs little Kim. She was with him, 90 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 9: and he was like, what the fuck we've been playing 91 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 9: all day? Well, we've been playing all week. 92 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: My new album had dropped, my second album, Jealous. She 93 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: was like, your albums like you. 94 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 9: Got better boy, You're killing him now. 95 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 13: You know. 96 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, he ain't never chanced all that. 97 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 11: Yeah, he ain't changed. I never seen the brig, never 98 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 11: seen the crack. 99 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: One for the ass, you know, the. 100 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 11: King of New York, New York. 101 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 14: That's the one to tell him the story about when 102 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 14: Pa got locked up. 103 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: You said the kite on him. 104 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 9: Be clear that story. Uta Muta told the story, who 105 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 9: Po's right here? 106 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 13: Man? 107 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: And who was Napoleon? He's moved Napoleon. 108 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 9: I had never said that story in twenty something years, 109 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 9: Fat Joe never leaked that story. That was it's a 110 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 9: true story. And so what happened was East Coast West Coach. 111 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: Biggie's my man. 112 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 9: And to be honest with you, you know they were really 113 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 9: I want to use my words correctly. Let's just say 114 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 9: that West Coast was like leaning on New York like 115 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 9: like like. 116 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Really leaning on New York like hard. The pressure was legendary. 117 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 9: And the New York rappers, you know, they just wasn't 118 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 9: really coming back at theming like that, and they were 119 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 9: just violating right, doing crazy shit. I don't know, talk 120 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 9: about all the type of shit going on, right. And 121 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 9: so I'm in the radio one day and they asked 122 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 9: me the question, Yojo, what you think about Tupac, And 123 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 9: all I say, yo, he's cool, but you know, if 124 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 9: they stepped to me, it's gonna be some ship. 125 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: So I said that on. 126 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 9: The radio, not knowing Tupac locked up upstate in New York. 127 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: The Puerto Ricans hear that, Poppy if. 128 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 9: I got beef with fat yo yo yo no on that, 129 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 9: and then we were still in the street. 130 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: Odd. 131 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 9: So I said that in an interview. You gotta be 132 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 9: careful your words to really create problems. So then I 133 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 9: get on a phone call. I get a phone call 134 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 9: from great Nice who pretty much put me in the game, 135 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 9: one of my brothers. 136 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: They said, yo, Joe, I got Pac. On the other line. 137 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: I was like, pot so I pick up. And then Tupac. 138 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 9: I don't want to elaborate too much, guys, but what 139 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 9: I'm saying is Tubac was like, Yo, these Puerto Ricans 140 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 9: is on me, Like you said something. 141 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: In the radio. 142 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 9: I don't got a problem with you, Joe, like this, 143 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 9: I know what's up this is. And so you know, 144 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 9: we sent the kiteout to the Puerto Ricans. 145 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: And be like, noah, no, no, no no, no. 146 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 9: This ain't about that, not on the strength of me. 147 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: Don't do that. 148 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 9: And then they wind up being real tight with Tupac 149 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 9: and there holding them down in there. That's how that 150 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 9: came about. But be clear, y'all, I know I talk 151 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 9: a lot of shit. I talk a lot of shit. 152 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 9: But I never told that story in twenty something years, 153 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 9: you know, because now we gotta be careful with podcasting clouds, 154 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 9: right right right, like y'all, this is shit crazy out there. 155 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 8: Welcome Chris Webber, your time with with with these music artists, 156 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 8: you know Big and Seas. I know you're close to 157 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 8: Seas still Nas just wins a Grammy. Talk to us 158 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 8: about that crossover between sports and music, because you were 159 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 8: right in the mix during your time. 160 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 15: Well, you guys know, I mean, we all come from 161 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 15: the same place, so we're gonna have the same things 162 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 15: in common, you know what I mean. And so growing up, 163 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 15: you know, so I'm sixteen eighty nine and that's you got. 164 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 15: You know, hip hop's in this little bit of peak, 165 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 15: and so growing up, I remember me and Jay Rose 166 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 15: used to write rhymes and class and passing back to 167 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 15: each other everybody wanted who want to be a rapping 168 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 15: vice versa. After I left college, KG from Naughty by Nature, 169 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 15: Shout out to KG. He's crazy sports fan and we 170 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 15: were just cool. I would just go to his house 171 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 15: in New Jersey every summer. Man, I go to his 172 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 15: house in New Jersey, shot out to his parents, His family. 173 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 15: They would just let me stay there. He had a studio. 174 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 15: I mean I could stay there for days and no 175 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 15: one come bother you or bother you, you know what I'm saying. 176 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 15: And in that time I learned how to make beats, 177 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 15: like he had Johnnay, that group Johnaye in the basement, 178 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 15: and I remember just watching him like just make beats 179 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 15: or you know, other groups, Ral all these other groups 180 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 15: that he had, so making beasts that just let me, 181 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 15: like after games, shit, come back and wind down. And 182 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 15: then it just takes you to where you meet a 183 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 15: couple people that you like minded, you know, you have 184 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 15: real relationship with him maybe you know, maybe they't. 185 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: Hear some shit. 186 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 15: So with Nas, it was just he's just somebody I 187 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 15: mind from Afar. I love his rhymes. When we met, 188 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 15: I was like, uh, you know, we're not gonna be 189 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 15: cool cause you know, you know, it's just not that 190 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 15: type of party, like going do your thing, I do mine. 191 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 15: We became close and he was just hearing some beats 192 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 15: and he was like, yo, I'm put that on, you 193 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 15: know me, And for me it sounded cool. 194 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: I'm being calm about it. 195 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 15: But at that time, I mean, it's still one of 196 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 15: the biggest accomplishes of my life to have a you 197 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 15: know song Blunt Ashes and then have Surviving the Times 198 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 15: on this other album. So for me, somebody to make 199 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 15: beats and listen to music all the time. Grew up 200 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 15: in Detroit where music is that it was. It was 201 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 15: just dope being a part of it. So yeah, that was, Yeah, 202 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 15: that's just dope. 203 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 8: Take me back to the because you were at you 204 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 8: were up on stage at the was it the Source 205 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 8: Awards with the with the East Coast West Coast Ship. 206 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 8: That was a young ballhead of you up there right 207 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 8: with you and who else was up there was you. 208 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 16: It's messed up too because I come home with Puffy 209 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 16: and Faith right after should lay it down? You want 210 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 16: to be on the videos and I come on stack 211 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 16: like I'm I come up, I'm wearing black, like I'm 212 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 16: part of bad Boy. 213 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know nobody, you know what I mean. 214 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 2: But it was dope that. 215 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 15: Night because Big and Them was sitting right here, and 216 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 15: you know, he would you know this time passed back 217 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 15: Crystal or Blunt. It was just it was to me, 218 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 15: it was it was the source of awars, right the 219 00:09:59,160 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 15: source of wars. 220 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: It was. 221 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 15: Like when Vince Carter was at the dunk contest down 222 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 15: when Vince did the dunk in two thousand and one. 223 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 15: That's what it's like. All of Wu Tang was sitting 224 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 15: on one uh, all of death Row was in the 225 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 15: was in the middle. I mean, it's when death Row 226 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 15: came out in the cage just with you know, Lady 227 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 15: of Red. Yeah, oh, that's when m C eight. That's 228 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 15: when Dj Quick was looking right at m cate the 229 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 15: whole time he was rapping because g. 230 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: Ain't in you Like, it was just beef. I mean, Mob. 231 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 15: Deep was beefing with uh Bow Thugs and harm at 232 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 15: that time. 233 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 2: And I'm a fan, so I'm in the back. I'm 234 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: just I'm just washing kind. 235 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 15: Of shah, kind of guns falling on the floor. 236 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 2: Everybody got on bullet pool. It was so crazy because. 237 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, who in the world let this happen? 238 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 15: Like I didn't see one security guard, people doing the show, 239 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 15: and people just walking up. 240 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: But it was the dopest show. 241 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 15: I always go with my boys and be like, I 242 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 15: don't know a hip hop show that was doper than that. 243 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 15: But yeah, he came out and that was the whole 244 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 15: East Coast West Coast Beef, Snoop Snoop doggs right, Snoop 245 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 15: is hard for Snoop to do that there though, that 246 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 15: was they were boring them too. 247 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, that ship was hard. I mean for me growing 248 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 8: up West Coast. I'm strictly West Coast. The only I 249 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 8: didn't listen to J at the time. The only East 250 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 8: Coast person I listened to was was I wasn't It 251 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 8: wasn't Tang, it was Big. 252 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. 253 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 8: So to so to see what the West Coast was 254 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 8: taking out there, I was like, oh ship. And then 255 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 8: all of a sudden you look back on the old 256 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 8: films like, oh ship, that's web right there. 257 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 15: What the fuck looking like ship? 258 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 8: Today we got a niconic boy, big Boy, Snoop. 259 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: Snoop Man, Snoop Uh. I got quite a few with 260 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 3: dog Man. But I remember one night I was having 261 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: a birthday party, and every year I would have somebody 262 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: come and Snoop around that time, Snoop is heavy into 263 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: his Snoopy football league, so I would years, you know, 264 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: my birthday fell during the season, and dog would lock 265 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: himself in so he would, you know, respectfully like big 266 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: you know. So when I finally got him one year. 267 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 3: That's why I said, Dog, I really want you to 268 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: do it this year. 269 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 10: Man, I got you. I got you. 270 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: He told me he'd do it for free. That's a 271 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: dog just sending the transportation. So you know many coaches 272 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: where it's like fixed up on the inside and everything, 273 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: I send them. I had a mini coach I didn't 274 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: send the mind. 275 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 5: I sent him. 276 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 3: Another one from one of my partner's companies. And they, 277 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, all Snoop is in the car. They're forty 278 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 3: five minutes out. He's on his way. He's on his way, 279 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: all right, cool. Next thing I know, dog, is there 280 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: somebody come from get me there? Like hey, man, They said, 281 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: the bus smells like gasoline. And I'm like what, I 282 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: go in the bus, man, and it's smelled like a 283 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: gas leak so much that dog was afraid to smoke. 284 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: You know, it must be bad if the dog's not 285 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: gonna smoke. So that night, bro, I almost killed Snoop 286 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: putting this dude in the in that bus. So literally 287 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: I sent him home in my bus and I got 288 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: home with my people and the bus. That when they 289 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: was taking his bus back to the yard, it caught 290 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: on fire. So on my YouTube, channel. I got the 291 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: whole story of the night almost killed Snoop Dogg. And 292 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: you know how Snoop do is his interviews. Man, I 293 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: don't know who did his uh research. Everything was wrong, 294 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: you know, dog Man, because. 295 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 10: You wrote a book. 296 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: Tell me about this book, Man, what made you write 297 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: a book? I'm like dog I wrote that book ten 298 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: years ago. Okay, every day everything was wrong. 299 00:13:46,920 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 17: Man, he said, big Boy, not too long. 300 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 8: And he shared the story that is rolling, kind of 301 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 8: rolling after the fact after we was laughing, but he said, 302 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,479 Speaker 8: you almost had a real accident. 303 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 18: With this nigga. 304 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: Tried to kill me. 305 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: Man, explain what that's that, big boy? When he wasn't 306 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: in shape, Big boy. 307 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 8: Real quick, did you see the story we had with 308 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 8: the two guns underneath his stomach? 309 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: No guns up under his stomach? 310 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 17: Finish your story. 311 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: So this nigga, he been fucking with me for years. 312 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: It's my love him to death. So I'm fucking with 313 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: y'all by talking about him like this, but I love him. 314 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 4: It's my nigga, right, So he fucking with me every year. 315 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 4: Snoop my birthday, Man, I got a birthday. When is 316 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: your birthday came? It's except nigga I coached football, Nigga. 317 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 4: I don't leave my kids, Nigga. I love you and 318 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 4: your birthday, but fuck you, nigga. The kids more important. 319 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: So he just keep telling me it's his birthday, his birthday. 320 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: So one year, his birthday fall on a day where 321 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: it ain't no game and the football is on palls 322 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 4: for this week and we made it to the off 323 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 4: or something. I'm like, all right, nigga, I'm gonna do 324 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: it for you, cuz send me that motherfucking uh. He 325 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 4: got a sprinter van and he was riding in but 326 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: it was like a handicap van and he is hooked up. 327 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: Send me that motherfucking handicap van. You be riding in, 328 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: nigga with the beat in the back boom. We at 329 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: the house waiting. I got about fifteen homies with me. 330 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: Van pull up. 331 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: It ain't the one that he be in. It's a 332 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: real nigga. Niggas in the window with the helmet on 333 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: bus one of them. I'm like, he wants to ride 334 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: in this, So I'm like, fuck it, we're gonna get in. 335 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 4: Cut let's row. We jump in. Soon as we get 336 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 4: in there, I'm like, I smell gas. I'm like real gas. 337 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: Nigga like Chevron like seventy six. Nigga like, nigga, don't 338 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 4: you dare blakee Nigga. I said, nigga, don't nobody smoke nothing. 339 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: I'm I'm smart nigga. I'm like, nigga, smell gas. Nigga, No, 340 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 4: don't nobody's none. I tell all of them, give me 341 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: the lighters. Take all the lighters, put them in the bag, 342 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: put them in the back. 343 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 11: Boom. 344 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 4: We ride, Nigga. All while we ride, niggas is doing 345 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: all this niggas. But because it's gas, nigga woosy. We 346 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: get to the motherfucking thing nigga and jump out. I 347 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: don't even cuts big boy out. I just like, uh, look, 348 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: smell of wool wiping, smell like gas. 349 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 8: Huh. 350 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 4: He get up in there he smelled. He like, yeah, 351 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 4: do smell like gas. I'm gonna let you use my 352 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 4: van on the way back. So I'm like cool. So 353 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: we perform, jump in his van and go back. 354 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: Nigga. 355 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: The van we was in, that motherfucker blew up. Oh man, 356 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 4: it blew up. 357 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 17: Nigga. 358 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: When we got out, like twenty minutes after and my 359 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: house was like an hour and twenty minutes, so Nigga. 360 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 8: We'd have been in the back blowing up. 361 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 4: And this nigga said, I'm sorry that motherfucker blew all 362 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: the way U. Nigga'm not playing. He got footage of. 363 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: But Nigga's on full fire. Nigga like like nobody was 364 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 4: getting out of that. It was a handicapped but you 365 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: know what a handicap bag extra locks and every thanks 366 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: big boy, I love you cause. 367 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 8: We got a legend in the building, doggy style. What 368 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 8: was it like helping be a part of that project? 369 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 19: It was great being a doggy stack because I was 370 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 19: producing more, I was writing more, just learning more. You know, 371 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 19: they knew our faced then you know what I'm saying. 372 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 19: And then uh, that's when John Singleton came to us 373 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 19: and he wanted us to do poetic justice and we 374 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 19: did the song Niggas Don't give a Fuck and that 375 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 19: was the first dog Pound song because being correct with Solo, 376 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 19: I was that nigga dash. He was corrupted kingpin. And 377 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 19: then we was getting you know what I'm saying, looking 378 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 19: at the moon one night, damn well call ourselves the 379 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 19: dog pad because we lived in the dog I was 380 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 19: stay in our house the dog Pound and then all 381 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 19: the niggas that we had the doll Pound gang. But 382 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 19: we had a group of dog pounds. I'm like, nigga, 383 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 19: we're gonna become the doll Pander. That next day, when 384 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 19: we was hard thinking that shit drunk and shit looking 385 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 19: at the moon and ship and the moon moving and shit, 386 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 19: John Singleton came up and we did that song. The 387 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 19: next day it was solidified. 388 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 8: I mean, you've had your hand and a ton of hits. 389 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 8: What was that one when you heard on the radio 390 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 8: the La radio wave the first time you were like. 391 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 19: Damn, got my mind on my money and my money 392 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 19: on my mind, Jean and Juice, you know what I'm saying. 393 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 19: On hearing your voice, but just being on Tanga ray 394 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 19: and blunts and just being on the chronic and then 395 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 19: what would you do? We got nominated That was a 396 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 19: dis song and that and we got nominated for a 397 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 19: Grammy for that, and me and Corp took our mothers 398 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 19: to the gram. 399 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 11: It was. 400 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: Go, are you finished? You can finish? You know? 401 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 19: We just took our mother to the to the Grammys 402 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 19: and got the you know, the boone thugs wanted you 403 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 19: know what I'm saying, But that's who it was few 404 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 19: when back then, but we're best. 405 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 18: Of friends now. Yeah, shut out to boone thugs. 406 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 14: You know what I mean about the room soundtrack dog 407 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 14: pund for like you did that beat that did that 408 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 14: beat that bitch hard, that ship crazy, And then I 409 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 14: did soundtrack big pimping too, Yeah, pimping too. 410 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, I heard. I want to say, I heard you 411 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 8: tell it or someone tell it. You and Snoop got 412 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 8: into some ship one time, just kind of wrestling around 413 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 8: and he shot the equipment. 414 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 18: Yeah, we got into it. 415 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 19: Little cousin in the room talking ship, I'm talking ship 416 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 19: and uh, I think I put him in the head 417 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 19: lock or something like that. And then uh, he came 418 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 19: in there and shot my drummers, shot. 419 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 18: These three eighties. 420 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 19: We just bumped, and then I went in there and 421 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 19: shot the TV up he just bought. They had with 422 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 19: them big ass TVs. And then we just went there 423 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 19: and smoked the blunt after words and all the. 424 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 17: Day did y'all didn y'all create ain't no fun right 425 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 17: after that. 426 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 19: Yep, Because we went somewhere and they took the dish 427 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 19: out the drum machine and gave it to doctor Dre 428 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 19: and I came back in they had Ain't no fun. 429 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 18: I get my credit for it. I'm still fighting for 430 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 18: that run. 431 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 13: Now. 432 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 18: It's this stuff that only we know. 433 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, talked to us about ain't 434 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 8: no fun though. 435 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 18: Yeah, ain't no fun. 436 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 19: The homieshing, you know, boom boom bomb. After that offer, 437 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 19: Cameo was sampling Cameo and then they just took that. 438 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 18: Base like one one. Doctor Drake did what he did, 439 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 18: and Nate Dog coming in when I mentioned it was 440 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 18: over who it's the piece of nake Dog? 441 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: You know what saying. 442 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 18: We've been through a lot, man, you gonna do? 443 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 20: You really don't know somebody that buys you not to 444 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 20: trust that whole silly of me to fall in love 445 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 20: with Rotates and my game grows bigger. 446 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: How many bitches? 447 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 18: Motherfuck this nigga name Snoop Doggy. 448 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 21: I'm all the above. I'm just swift on my toes 449 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 21: to get caught up with you, hosey. And we perform 450 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 21: that every time. And you know you know what I'm saying, 451 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 21: Like they'd be like, man. 452 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 19: We grew up on y'all man, you know yeah, and 453 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 19: we'd just be like damn that old you know what 454 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 19: I'm saying, but I still feel you know, you know 455 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 19: what I'm saying, my vegetables fruit, you know what I'm saying, 456 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 19: get the sun. 457 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 18: I better get you all some son too, because that's 458 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 18: part of life. 459 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: That's a blessed. Your music timeless. 460 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 8: You got Wis and the buildings. 461 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 12: You know. 462 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 22: Like I said, Cam is my favorite rapper like as 463 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 22: far as like lyricism and swag and ship like that, 464 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 22: but Snoop is probably the person who I model myself 465 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 22: after the most. I will watch him just walk in 466 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 22: a room and just be like wow, like that's really 467 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 22: that nigga, Like you know what I mean, And to 468 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 22: see that respect that. 469 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 11: I do a lot of research. 470 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 22: I watched like a lot of documentaries and backstage stuff 471 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 22: like that. So I would watch him on the road 472 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 22: and be like, man, I just want to hype man 473 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 22: for that nigga, or I just want to like just 474 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 22: beat a young homie like back back then, it's like yo, 475 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 22: I would just like roll weed for that nigga if 476 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 22: I could just be next. 477 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 11: Yeah, Like I would do anything. 478 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 22: And there's I feel like there's a lot of people 479 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 22: who feel like that. But you know, to really put 480 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 22: those intentions out there and then to see it happen, 481 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 22: and Snoop took me in, you know, under his wing 482 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 22: immediately when I moved out here to LA. One of 483 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 22: the first things he did was like, you know, get 484 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 22: a crib around the corner from my spot. We're going 485 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 22: to record at this studio. We're gonna shoot this movie, 486 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 22: We're gonna. 487 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 11: Make this album. 488 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 489 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 22: Man, it was like damn Like instantly, it wasn't like, Yo, 490 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 22: We're gonna get high and fucking eat junk all day. 491 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 11: It was like, yo, business, it's time. It's time to 492 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 11: make a moment out of this. 493 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 22: So that's what I mean by I model myself after 494 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 22: him because I see, you know, his position in the 495 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 22: game and still how hard he works and what he does, 496 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 22: and yeah, just moving forward, it was like, Yo, I'm 497 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 22: on tour with this nigga. 498 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 11: I get to share the stage with him. 499 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 22: Every night, like he goes, and then yeah, I about 500 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 22: to say I go, I go, he go, and like 501 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 22: the crowds partying, and of course I know his motherfucking 502 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 22: words because I'm a fan like everybody, any fan like 503 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 22: would get up there and sing that ship with all 504 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 22: of their hearts. So that was like the most like gratifying, 505 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 22: like Mac and devn being Yeah, for sure, we're gonna 506 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 22: do it. 507 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 11: We've been writing it for years. We just sh going on. 508 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 22: I got ship going on, so you know, we just 509 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 22: got to get in the room and really make that 510 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 22: ship happen. But I executive produced a whole album for 511 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 22: him that we're going to put out. Of course, we're 512 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 22: going to do the soundtrack for Mac and Devin too, 513 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 22: and yeah, we'll throw y'all in the movie. 514 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 8: Tell me how instrumental in your life he was though? 515 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 8: So it sounds like he taught to your grind, you 516 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 8: modeled you know, someone you monitor your game after. But 517 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 8: how instrumental was it. 518 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 2: You saying that? 519 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 23: What? 520 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 8: Like, how just explain to everyone how important he was 521 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 8: in your journey? 522 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: Uh through the space? 523 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 22: Oh so, Snoop is fucking rare, especially in the rap game, 524 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 22: for the simple fact that there's nobody currently who can 525 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 22: say that they have their second coming of them who's 526 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 22: like successful killing it went on tour with him. Everybody 527 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 22: kind of competes or hides the keys to the game 528 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 22: and doesn't really show the homies like what was really good? 529 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 22: But Snooper put me onto plays like he'll be meeting 530 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 22: with the dude from Raising Knes and be like, you 531 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 22: know who y'all need to get in business with Wiz 532 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 22: And he'll call me facetiming, Yo, Wiz, I'm sitting here 533 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 22: with the nigga from Raising Knes right now. That's how 534 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 22: we are brou That's crazy, bro, Like, that's that's real 535 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 22: as ship. A lot of people in this business won't 536 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 22: do that. And to have a big homie who's not 537 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 22: only a legend, but isn't scared to put. 538 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 11: You up on game and bring you up. It's not 539 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 11: a competition, no, none of that. 540 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 22: All positive reinforcement. And we chop it up, bro, like 541 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 22: we just you've been to the compound. We just showed 542 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 22: up the compound. 543 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 11: We smoke. If you need to get away from the 544 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 11: house or whatever it is, just go kick it. 545 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 8: It's go kick it in the mother ship. 546 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 11: It's a vibe. Yeah. So yeah, he's been very instrumental 547 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 11: in just my sanity in life. 548 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 2: I've been through everything. I mean, he's been a big 549 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: you know. 550 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 8: I mean for me to be such a big fan 551 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 8: that meet him in UCLA and then us become friends. 552 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 8: You know, when you really look up to someone and 553 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 8: get in this space. It's just like you have such 554 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 8: a long journey bus. It's like, damn, that's snoop and 555 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 8: like we're doing charity football games together and that knows 556 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 8: my kids and do It's just like you kind of 557 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 8: have to pinch yourself sometimes because it is just so 558 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 8: cool and welcome and and the real how real O 559 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 8: G should be? 560 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: So I do this thing. 561 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 22: We perform at amphitheaters, and in any amphitheater, there's like 562 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 22: there's the VIP that's the seats, there's the like the pit, 563 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 22: like that's the most, and then there's the lawn in 564 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 22: the back that's like the cheaper seats. The most people 565 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 22: are actually in the lawn though, right, But if you're 566 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 22: ever in the lawn and you watch the show, you 567 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 22: either got to look up at the screen the whole time. Yeah, 568 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 22: you just gotta look at the screen the whole time 569 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 22: because the actual person, the performer, is like this fucking 570 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 22: big and you can't fucking see him. And I was 571 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 22: always in the lawn when I was, you know, attending 572 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 22: a concert, so this is I did it. I came 573 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 22: up being on stages, like what if we put another 574 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 22: stage back there by the lawn and I could run 575 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 22: from up here back there and go perform like a 576 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 22: few songs for them and shit. 577 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 11: So that's what I usually do during my tour. So 578 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 11: I'm up on. 579 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 22: Stage halfway through, we'll black it out, put some shit 580 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 22: on the screen and I'll run over and then they'll 581 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 22: hit the lights and then boom. 582 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 5: I'm right. 583 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 11: I'm in the lawn. 584 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 22: Yeah, and they're going crazy. I'm doing this shit with 585 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 22: Snoop and he's like, yo, what the fuck? He's like, 586 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 22: First of all, I never done no shit like this 587 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 22: in my motherfucking life. Second of all, we got about 588 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 22: a minute, less than a minute to get all the 589 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 22: way up there. 590 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 11: I'm trying to run up here. He's like bruh. Like 591 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 11: he's like, I'm a little bit older than you. But 592 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 11: he sucked it up and we did it and we 593 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 11: killed it. 594 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 8: What's the one piece The best piece of advice he 595 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 8: ever gave. 596 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 11: You, best piece of advice he ever gave me was 597 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 11: probably just to be myself. Keep doing me. 598 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 22: He's like, you know you're gonna be around, and he 599 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 22: refers to himself as Snoop Dogg. He's like, you go 600 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 22: chill around, Snoop Dogg. Don't be like Snoop Dogg Nigga, 601 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 22: be Whiz Nigga. I love because you whizz, You're motherfucker 602 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 22: rock star. You work hard, you do this, you do that, 603 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 22: You fuck with this audience, you fuck with that audience. 604 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 22: He's like, always keep that, never change it, never give 605 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 22: it up. 606 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: The one and only can yo. 607 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 13: So we used to go to fashion Week, and you 608 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 13: know everybody do that shit now, the met Gallan all 609 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 13: types of Dame was in that ship for years, going 610 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 13: to all that shit fashion for years and years and years, 611 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 13: and I knew that I was trying to do something 612 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 13: to stand out. And I'm like, back then, like I said, 613 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 13: it wasn't no Internet, and that that's it. 614 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: Dame. 615 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 13: Big thing was like, we gotta make pay six. If 616 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 13: you made page six in the post, that means you 617 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 13: was there with Leonard DiCaprio, Donald Trump, whoever ordered most 618 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 13: famous people made pay six of the post. And I'm like, 619 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 13: what the fuck am I gonna do to make paye six? 620 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 13: So Harlem they at the store called Harlem Signature that 621 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 13: order fly ship in there and I was like, yeah, 622 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 13: this is it. I seen that ship. They had to 623 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 13: have been at the Pink motherfucking flip phone. Uh, I say, yeah, 624 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 13: I'm making pay six tomorrow, niggas. And that's that's that's 625 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 13: really the more the story and that she kind of 626 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 13: took a life of his own. And you know, people 627 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 13: be like, yo, can't bring the pink coat. Bring the 628 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 13: pink coat. Like it's like I'll be on some asshole 629 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 13: time poors like they wanted me to bring the pink coat. 630 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 13: They want me to bring the pink coat somewhere like 631 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 13: three years ago, like, yo, we'll pay you to bring 632 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 13: the pink coat. So I'm like, all right, it need 633 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 13: cost service though I have my own call, so I said, 634 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 13: but didn't need costs. I start doing wild ship cause 635 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 13: niggas is so infatuated with the pig. I'll make that 636 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 13: she have his own car. Service might pick it up. 637 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 13: And I got one of them, but I don't have 638 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 13: the main one. I just just just got you know, 639 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 13: I don't want to say yeah, I let the person 640 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 13: talk about it, but I just just uh got ready 641 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 13: the main one. I always had a backup, but the 642 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 13: main main one is going. I still got the stunt double. 643 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 14: That's one of the that's one of the y'all keep 644 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 14: it for rappers. Rappers are a lot of rappers and 645 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 14: use that style for a video. And on Halloween, right, no, 646 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 14: every kids, everybody dressed like Halloween babies on THEBS. 647 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 13: I get tagged it on tight now I get tagged 648 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 13: it on type of shit every single Halloween about that 649 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 13: pink coatd like they got a little baby wrapping Katton Candy. 650 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 13: I think the ship was trying to look like the 651 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 13: prink coats and all that shit looked like Kayen Candy 652 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 13: to me, I don't. 653 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 11: Know what the ship is. 654 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 8: Welcome to the show, DC. 655 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 14: A few months after your album, you hit the album, 656 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 14: you get into the accident. Can you walk us through 657 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 14: that night? 658 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 24: That's a couple couple of days over a weekend, Saturday 659 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 24: and Sunday. 660 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 5: The rank happens. 661 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 11: Uh. 662 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 5: November the eleven, three thirty three am. It was just 663 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 5: the anniversary, Yeah, thirty fifth anniversary. Just the other day. 664 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 5: I had been shooting UH. 665 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 24: Videos over two videos over that weekend, a video for 666 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 24: a song called Beautiful but Deadly and a video to 667 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 24: a song called a Formula. And because it was so 668 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 24: much work, I was falling asleep a lot, and somebody 669 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 24: was around that offered me something that would help me stay, 670 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 24: stay away, probably a very old story. And I accepted that, 671 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 24: and and twenty four hours later that accident happened. 672 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 5: Twenty four hours later. Twenty four hours later, I. 673 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 24: Uh, I took the stuff I went which was Dre's 674 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 24: house at the time, and Dre said, Nigga, you need 675 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 24: to take your ass to sleep. I said, okay, and 676 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 24: then he went to the store. But about my my 677 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 24: inside was just racing. I couldn't go to sleep. So 678 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 24: when he left, I left. And now I'm in the 679 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 24: in La, in the streets all day, drinking and smoking 680 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 24: and doing what those boys do. And by the time 681 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 24: I finally said, oh, I wanna go home and go 682 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 24: to sleep, was was two o'clock, almost two o'clock. The 683 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 24: the next day, I still haven't been to sleep, so 684 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 24: I'm on my way home. Just didn't make it. But 685 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 24: I gotta say this can fault. Everything in my life 686 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 24: is purposeful, including that accident. Now I had to go 687 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 24: through a lot of bottles, a lot of drugs and 688 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 24: depression and to to find my way back to who 689 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 24: I am today. But it was twenty I had been 690 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 24: clean and sober for about eight years. Good came to 691 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 24: me and I worked my way back up to a 692 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 24: you know, a decent living. I could provide for my 693 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 24: boys and anything a good man would want to do 694 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 24: I was doing. I didn't have what my contemporaries had. 695 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 24: I didn't have certainly what Dray and Snoop the mad. 696 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 5: But I had peace of mind, you know. 697 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: And good came and he said, h you could let 698 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: go of that pain. 699 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 5: Huge. He said that you didn't do that. I did that. 700 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 5: You weren't responsible for that. 701 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 23: I was. 702 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 24: And I did it for a purpose, and you were 703 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 24: about to walk in that purpose. It was a couple 704 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 24: months after that I decided to do the documentary, you know, 705 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 24: and everything since then it's been on the show Inclined, 706 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 24: and I think, uh, like I said, twenty twenty five 707 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 24: is gonna be the year. 708 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 5: I stepped back out there on that ass. 709 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 11: And and by that by the time, by the time. 710 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 5: The World show up in DFW in twenty twenty six, 711 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be back on my thront. 712 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 12: Yes, sir, you know what I mean. 713 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 24: Yeah, cause you know the World Cup is coming here 714 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 24: in twenty six, so I'm gonna have my little little 715 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 24: jingle bag ready. You can get that dollar from everybody 716 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 24: to get off the plane. Understand that that's good business. 717 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 8: Would you say, in the way that accident saved your 718 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 8: life in the long run. 719 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know. 720 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 11: I was. 721 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 24: I was on the one way ticket to the shit 722 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 24: to some goddamn well wherever I was going. I didn't know, 723 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 24: Like I said, I was out of my head. 724 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 17: You know. 725 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 5: I thought I was the greatest rapper of all time. 726 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 5: Can't tell me nothing. I got. 727 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 24: Six foot three, three hundred and twenty pounds bodyguard basically 728 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 24: with me. That said, if I come in the club 729 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 24: and and slap you upside the head, I can just 730 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 24: do that and move out the way, you know. 731 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 23: And I did that. 732 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 5: It was bad for a while, bro, but Jod got a. 733 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 24: Way of putting you in your your space and in 734 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 24: your place. And like I said, all that stuff was 735 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 24: purposeful so that I could understand and give back to 736 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 24: these babies that's out there now. 737 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 5: They think that's the way. It's not the way. Man. 738 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 14: Somebody said before your accident, the DC, if he didn't 739 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 14: have an accident, he would be he would have been 740 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 14: the best rapper, love best rapper. 741 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 2: Ever. How do you how do you feel when you 742 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 2: hear those words? 743 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 24: Well, I think they're right right, You know and and 744 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 24: little don't count me out cause I I still vote 745 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 24: for me. 746 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean? 747 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 24: Like uh, in order for they had verses, In order 748 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 24: for you to do a versus against me, you would 749 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 24: have had to have made one record and then get 750 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 24: your voice taken away from you, and then come back 751 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 24: thirty five years later and make another one. 752 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 5: And you can now you can go ahead up with me. 753 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 5: Other than that, you're fighting amongst yourselves. 754 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 11: I'm you know. 755 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 24: I don't want to say I'm above that, as if 756 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 24: I'm better than anybody, but I no longer. I'm no 757 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 24: longer in competition with you boys. I support all of you. Yes, 758 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 24: be yourself. 759 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 5: Of course. 760 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 10: I believe in. 761 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 5: God, and God believe in me. 762 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 763 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 5: Otherwise I'd have been gone. 764 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 14: When your voice went away? Did your pen pick up 765 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 14: or get more potent? My pen always been my pen. 766 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 14: It ain't never lost nothing. It's still him today. Yes, 767 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 14: because Cubs say in this song it's my ego. It's 768 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 14: a new record. 769 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 11: He got it. 770 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 5: He said, I was Kendred before Kendrick. 771 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 24: Now you talking about the subject matter, but them cadences, 772 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 24: I was Kendrick. 773 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 11: You know what I mean. 774 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 5: When Kendrick, they put out they're not like us. 775 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 2: Man. 776 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 24: It took me two days to write some ship behind 777 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 24: that energy that he made me feel. And I can't 778 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 24: wait to record this year. 779 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 11: And now that Dre is gonna. 780 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 12: Get it out, I wanna, I want. 781 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 8: I want to back cut a little bit though, because 782 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 8: take me through how mentally tough it was for you 783 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 8: to drop something that, God damn it that is number 784 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 8: one in the country, number one album in the country, 785 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 8: and then taking your voice away and as you see 786 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 8: your brothers continue to do their things. So I also 787 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 8: read one time that you know, obviously their wins were 788 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 8: your wins, but how hard mentally was it that you 789 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 8: couldn't do it? 790 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 2: Man? 791 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 5: I don't think that. Imagine was it? Was it the 792 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 5: second year Mike tos. 793 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 12: Brokes ankle at the second year? 794 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 24: Imagine Michael Jordan toward his knee up and couldn't play 795 00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 24: no more. 796 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 5: How do you think he would? He might not be here, 797 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, right, So that's where that's 798 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 5: where I was at. 799 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 23: Dang. 800 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 24: I was in a space where I didn't know what 801 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 24: the fuck to do, and the only thing I had 802 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 24: was given giving it to to those guys that that 803 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 24: that kept me alive, you know. Snoop says it in 804 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 24: the documentary, you know, and he was right on point 805 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 24: with that, you know that, being big brother to Rage 806 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 24: and rb X and and Doggie and Dazz and Corrupt 807 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 24: and and even Geeta. 808 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 5: H that shit kept me. 809 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 11: Alive to go, don't she leave? How did the light 810 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 11: of flick come about? 811 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 25: Ship Man? You the how to smoke? Yeah, No, it's 812 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 25: it's literally it's on God. I would not lie to you, bro. 813 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 25: It's not a trade mark. It's not a because if 814 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 25: it was, we have it singed up and I wouldn't 815 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 25: even have to do it. You are listening to you 816 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 25: can listen to. Every single one is different and the 817 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 25: answer is simple and playing. If you're a Wayne fan, 818 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 25: you guys already got to know that I'm about to 819 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 25: smoke during the verse. I'm lighting up for the verse 820 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 25: and that's cheating. Yeah, no, cheers, let's go. It's not 821 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 25: a trade became classic. 822 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 12: It's not a hold on. 823 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 11: Let me make sure I get them up. 824 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 14: No, it's to the point where like when when motherfucker's 825 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 14: hear for the song, they be like, oh. 826 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, I feel like that too when I hear it. 827 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 25: I heard it I heard a few flicks on some 828 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 25: other songs that you're not delivering like I live, so 829 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 25: stopped doing that. 830 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 8: I got a question like, obviously you have to listen 831 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 8: to your music. 832 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 26: When when do you want to hear it? When don't 833 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 26: you want to hear it? I want to hear it 834 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 26: all the time, and I don't want to hear it 835 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 26: never ever, so all the time. So I don't listen 836 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 26: to no one else. Oh okay, yeah, but it's no. 837 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 25: It's I'm always listening to what I just did when 838 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 25: I'm trying to fix and ship. So it's not by 839 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 25: choice that I don't hear. When I say no one else, 840 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 25: I mean not even my own artist. So that's I 841 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 25: always like to let get that out there when I 842 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 25: say that, I don't listen to no one else, Like 843 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 25: gu gotta. 844 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 11: Literally text me, yo, this is such and such a 845 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 11: new single and the video. 846 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 25: Oh ship they got a video too, Damn. I ain't 847 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 25: knowing that motherfucker. It's awesome right there. He killed that ship, 848 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 25: you know, he killed that ship. I might listen to 849 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 25: the first four of ours, he said. On the first one, 850 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 25: he text like Nigga said. 851 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 11: Get back to my ship. That's that's the only reason. 852 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 25: Let's tell you, I gotta I'm a perfectionist, trying to 853 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 25: make sure that I should have said is you should 854 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 25: have probably said the You probably shouldn't even sit in 855 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 25: that type shit got you? 856 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 11: What do you think two thousand and four the Karter? 857 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 11: What do you think the Carter did for your career? Uh? 858 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 25: At the time, I think it. I think it's uh, 859 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 25: it was the start of it was the start of 860 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 25: a path album I was able to create, you know 861 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 25: what I mean, the path of uh, the path that 862 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 25: deserved continuous, deserve to continue, a continuation, a pat that 863 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 25: deserved to keep going, extend. 864 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 11: And that's as hard for some people. 865 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 25: Some people could drop a hard ass album and I 866 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 25: don't hit the rest, you know what I mean, I 867 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 25: ain't looking for your next album. But the card allowed 868 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 25: me to. Now we want hit Car two, Card three, 869 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 25: you know. So I always looked at it like it 870 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 25: was a maturity thing for me, like it was my 871 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 25: little for some reason, we always approaching just for the Carter, 872 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 25: like you know whatever. Every time we're working on obviously 873 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 25: I work all damn day every day, so when we 874 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 25: get one that you know, it's for the Cartner so 875 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 25: it's nothing about it. 876 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, so it's like, so what makes this for the cussop. 877 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 25: Obviously it sets a standard out set a standard with 878 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 25: that album, Yeah, exactly, a big standard. 879 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 8: Uh mix tape, Wayne, I mean that was unbelievable. You 880 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 8: know if the part of one and two, Uh, what 881 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 8: was the thinking behind the just that whole this. 882 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 2: By the way. 883 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 11: He told me to do this by the way, yeah, 884 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 11: which you said it was the just what was the. 885 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 8: What was the whole thought process behind the mixtape push? 886 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 23: The first ones? 887 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 11: You know, the first one I did was just. 888 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 25: Getting okay from baby that him telling me is okay, 889 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 25: like I could buy this music that he was okay. 890 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 2: It's all good. 891 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 11: Ship. So that was the first one I put out. 892 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 25: I think it was like ten thousand bars, and they 893 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 25: started calling him the mixtapes and whatever. We was giving 894 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 25: that ship out free. So that was actually the thing 895 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 25: about Wayne. Shit, Wayne's always free. Wayne's always free. So 896 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 25: I don't blame me that charge and switch the game 897 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 25: up on y'all flipped it up to me too much. 898 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 25: Now that I actually got a charge off of my 899 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 25: mixtapes now, so don't blame me blaming the game. But uh, 900 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 25: but yeah, so as far as you know, and my 901 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 25: approach to mixtapes was always different. You know, I always 902 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 25: thought a mixtape was supposed to be and I still do. 903 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 25: I still do my mixtapes that well. I thought it 904 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 25: was supposed to be you wanting to hear me on 905 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 25: the songs that's out that I'm not on, you know 906 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 25: what I mean, like ten ten hot that songs that 907 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 25: you're in the club banging Terry Dale or whatever. 908 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 11: I'm abouty killing bitches for you. 909 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 910 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 25: I thought that's what and I'm I'm gonna rap it. 911 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 25: I'm gonna say the same melodies the person use like 912 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 25: for about a go two seconds, but you know what 913 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 25: I mean, I'm gonna flip some words and she'll like 914 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 25: make it fun interesting, And I always thought that's what 915 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 25: it should be and so something. That's why That's how 916 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 25: I attack my mixtapes and that's how I always have. 917 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 11: But now mixtapes have changed. 918 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 25: How people be looking for four albums see mixtape, so 919 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 25: gutting to me having to make sure you're I mean 920 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 25: mag having to make sure y'all do at least three 921 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 25: or four just originals. 922 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 11: I'm like mac man, this is fun my album for something, 923 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 11: but this. 924 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 2: Is what they got too. 925 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, welcome to this show, too short. 926 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 14: S you survived every era of hip hop. To say, 927 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 14: to be honest, what do you think was the golden 928 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 14: age of hip hop? Or if you would say it 929 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 14: was a golden age, well, we know. 930 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 27: They have an actual golden era that's labeled late eighties 931 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 27: early nineties that's supposed to be the peers form of 932 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 27: hip hop when it was young in the commercial stages 933 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 27: and everything was original. 934 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 10: Everybody was a one off. 935 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 11: Man. 936 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 10: All these erarors were fun. 937 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 27: Like like that era is how I got in the game, 938 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 27: just being too short of my own lane. But the 939 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 27: next one that came in with the bling blinge, we 940 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 27: all got money. 941 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 10: That shit was fun. 942 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 27: I was looking at Atlanta and she was fun and 943 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 27: fucking who got the most ship? 944 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 15: Fun? 945 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 27: And then you know, the the the Y two K pass, 946 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 27: and then the New Millennium came in and shit start 947 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 27: getting my space, my space stout and ship and you 948 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 27: know it was on the baby we was hyphed up 949 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 27: and Little John and then was crunked up. 950 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 24: It was it was, it was doing it, man, I 951 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 24: was I was just about to ask you not to 952 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 24: cut you off speak to you meeting Little John, because 953 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 24: a lot of people don't understand. 954 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 2: You was the first. 955 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 27: But you know, I'm at this time, I'm an og brouh, 956 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 27: I'm an og in the nineties. But they're like, what 957 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 27: up o g You know what I'm saying. I've been 958 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 27: there and fucking I'm coming on the West and this 959 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 27: hyphe is brewing, like early two thousands hyphe is brewing 960 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 27: and fucking. 961 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 10: It's just a whole new energy for me. 962 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 27: Man, I had I had already been in pocket with 963 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 27: Little John when the hype came along. Little John literally 964 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 27: had did a show or something he did. He was 965 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 27: in Oakland for something in the Bay and he called me. 966 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 27: He's like, man, I'm in the bay and they got 967 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 27: the ship out here called Haifi, Like, bro, we gotta 968 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 27: do some of this ship. 969 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 10: Like he came back hyped up on the ship. So 970 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 10: prior you want to know the Little John story, Little. 971 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: John is uh. 972 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 10: In about what. I don't know. The mid nineties. 973 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 27: He's an employee and so so deaf, and he's over 974 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 27: there producing songs. I think one of the ones always 975 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 27: members of is that my boo song somebody singing I don't. 976 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 8: Know boom, I can't sing, so you know, uh not 977 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 8: the usher booze, uh. 978 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 2: The baby. 979 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 24: Oh damn. I think. 980 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 18: So so deaf. 981 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 27: So Little John produced them kind of beas for so 982 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 27: so Deaf. He worked for Jermaine Dupree, got an office 983 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 27: over there and ship, but he's also a DJ around 984 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 27: Atlanta and the niggas a pretty good damn DJ. So 985 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 27: I was a fan of Little John to DJ. I 986 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 27: always was at the fucking clubs and when he dj' 987 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,240 Speaker 27: it was just different. He started DJing and he's playing records, 988 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 27: but he's talking and then next thing you know, he 989 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 27: got the crowd saying shit. He just it turned into 990 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 27: a fucking concert by DJ. And then he put this 991 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,720 Speaker 27: record out, who Get Crunk? 992 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 10: Who You With? 993 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 2: Who You With? 994 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 27: Just a bunch of fucking chants to the flock, getting 995 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 27: look to the flock. And I pull up on him 996 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 27: and I'm like, bro, you need to let me do 997 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 27: a remix to that, like put some raps on it. 998 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 27: And he's like, nah, nah, that song already came and win. 999 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 27: He's like, let's make some new ship. So he put 1000 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 27: up to my studio one day and left me a 1001 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 27: song that ended up being a couldn't be a better player, 1002 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:52,240 Speaker 27: and and he left the song. I wasn't there when 1003 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 27: he came. He just left this fucking song tracked out 1004 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 27: on the on the machines. 1005 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 10: He sat there. I don't know if he mailed him. 1006 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: It was just there. 1007 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 10: So I put some rap so it got it back 1008 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 10: to him. 1009 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 2: We liked it. 1010 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 27: We uh went to go shoot the video and ship 1011 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 27: the song blew up, and then he's he's in a 1012 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 27: situation with an independent label in Atlanta, a label that 1013 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 27: was an associated mind. I knew to god, I had 1014 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 27: just some business with him. He was cool, wasn't no, 1015 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 27: wasn't no. It wasn't no friction or nothing. But he 1016 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 27: said Little John owed him some money, and he just, 1017 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 27: you know, fucked Little John. Little John was like he's shady. 1018 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 27: Whatever the whatever it was, the dispute fuck him, so 1019 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 27: they was gonna fuck you for life. So I just 1020 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 27: stepped in and was like, brouh, how much money is it. 1021 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 27: I've got some business going on with Little John. Okay, 1022 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 27: you know this this whatever broke him off on you know, 1023 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 27: some homie ship. And then fucking came to Little John. 1024 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 27: I was likely free to go, and I could have 1025 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 27: signed Little John to my label, but I knew who 1026 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 27: he was already did a couple of songs that blew 1027 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 27: the fuck up because of him. 1028 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 12: He went out there, Oh yeah, yeah, Lil. 1029 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 27: Jones, the kind of dude who had a network in 1030 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 27: the DJ. 1031 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 10: Couldn't shake a record and he. 1032 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 27: Had been doing that for so so deaf, and he 1033 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 27: did that for his couple of singles that he had 1034 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 27: and shipped, as well as the song that he had 1035 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 27: with me. So instead of ME going are you under 1036 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 27: me now, let's roll, I was just like, bro, you 1037 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 27: know you're free to go, man. 1038 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 10: And all I asked for him return was beats. I 1039 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 10: was just I want beats. I knew the nigga had 1040 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 10: them beats so for life. The nigga was just slide 1041 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 10: me hits like just for life. 1042 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 27: And then the greatest ship ever, he slid me shake 1043 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 27: that monkey, which lasts forever. 1044 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 10: And the very next year he gave me blow the whistle. 1045 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 27: And I'm like, you know, thank you sir, and then 1046 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 27: he and then he proceeded to make some of the 1047 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,959 Speaker 27: best hyphe beats ever did tell me what he didn't 1048 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 27: want to keep the sneaks yep shit he was he was. 1049 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 27: He was doing it like, I just want to help 1050 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 27: snap the ship, the same as me and forty. But 1051 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 27: you know that those are the type of things man, 1052 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 27: when you're coming up in the game. Yeah yeah, it 1053 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 27: might be with a younger player, a younger coach or something, 1054 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 27: and you fucking help somebody along the way and then 1055 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 27: they turn around and there in the position to help him, 1056 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 27: and it's just this ship is just way better than 1057 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 27: going through life going give me my gim you know, 1058 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 27: just I'm the motherfucking one. You just kind of gotta 1059 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 27: have a little humble too it, man, And when you 1060 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 27: recognize somebody with the game, you just give him a 1061 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 27: stepping stone, give him some more game, give him a chance, 1062 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 27: give him opportunities something. 1063 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 12: Welcome to the show master, p. 1064 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 2: How did know Lima come about? Like the record? But 1065 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 2: how did it blow like that? 1066 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 28: It ain't blow at first, right, I was opening act 1067 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 28: for two. 1068 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 11: That you know, by me being from the nobody would 1069 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 11: never know that that was opened up. 1070 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 2: I was. 1071 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 28: I was opening act so but I started on the 1072 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 28: roll like years. 1073 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 2: You're like around what time was this? 1074 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 13: That was? 1075 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 8: What that was early two or early nineties? 1076 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 28: Now because he passed in ninety six, I believe. So 1077 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 28: this was like right them two years before that, like 1078 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 28: I was the opening act on there. Uh so the guy, 1079 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 28: the white guy who announced me be mister Peter country 1080 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 28: singer because I'm from New Orleans. Man, that's the first 1081 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 28: time I wanted to fight, is this old man? I'm like, bro, 1082 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 28: look you do that again? 1083 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 2: What fuck you. 1084 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 11: Against mister p from New Orleans? 1085 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 28: And so you know, I got his mind right. And 1086 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 28: I'm out there performing right and I'm singing bout it, 1087 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 28: bout it And one dude on him was drunk or whatever. 1088 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 28: He was bouncing what man bounce? I walked off the 1089 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,760 Speaker 28: stage twenty thousand people to him, give him a no limity. 1090 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 28: I said, you like that? He said, man, I love 1091 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 28: that woo woop. And then my brother said, why are 1092 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 28: you so happy? I said, I got one? 1093 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 5: He said one? 1094 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 28: What I said A fan? 1095 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 18: I said, I turned that one in. 1096 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 28: A million and we walked up. I get on a 1097 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 28: bus with Twupot and them. Man, man, I mean they 1098 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 28: was just good dudes to me, Like every time I 1099 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 28: was around them, they cared about people, like for easy 1100 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 28: to take me down to the radio station. You know 1101 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 28: what I'm saying, Like that was love but he seen 1102 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:32,479 Speaker 28: my hustle in my drive. 1103 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 2: I was ready to go. 1104 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 28: I went any hood wherever. 1105 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 2: That's when he was a hustler. 1106 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 11: So I show up with my concess. 1107 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 28: You know, I don't know nothing about out here with 1108 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 28: the gang banging and stuff. I'm trying to sell my CD. 1109 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 2: You know. 1110 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 28: Do like, Man, where you from? 1111 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 2: What you got out? 1112 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 28: I said, Man, I'm from New Orleans. Man, he said, 1113 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 28: what you said? I say, I'm selling a CD. He said, 1114 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 28: you know where you're at? And I say, no, sir, 1115 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 28: he said. I said, I'm just trying to sell a 1116 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 28: CD and make it. Said man, how much? When I 1117 00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 28: said I want twenty dollars? He said, man, I get 1118 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 28: I've seen the gun. I'm like, I take the tent, 1119 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 28: you know. 1120 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 2: And that's what like. 1121 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 28: He's was like, Man, some of these places you can't go, 1122 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 28: but I wouldn't use it. 1123 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 2: I'm from the South Mound. 1124 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 28: Yeah, we move around. We don't really know that. And 1125 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 28: it's like, you know, that's when I started really understanding 1126 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 28: the neighborhood. 1127 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 8: The culture. 1128 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 28: Yeah, the culture and stuff. Because even in the Bay, 1129 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 28: the Bay was different. The Bay, we were just hustlers 1130 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 28: out there. You know what I'm saying. It wasn't like, man, 1131 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 28: we go to the call show, turn up. You know 1132 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 28: what I'm saying, go to Fessor but the lake the lake. 1133 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,240 Speaker 28: Yeah so now man, But it's it's knowing those different 1134 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 28: cultures and then taking that uh and getting on the 1135 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 28: road with it. So I think that was my biggest strength, 1136 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 28: Like I said, showing up, going to everyhood. I went 1137 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 28: to New York, Chicago, Texas. I just start showing up. 1138 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 28: And I mean I started watching the other people at 1139 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 28: that time. Rapp a Lot was so big. I studied, 1140 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 28: they moved, you know, swab House was so big. I'm like, man, 1141 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 28: big Drake. You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, 1142 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,399 Speaker 28: but we celebrate each other, right, we don't do that now. Man, 1143 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 28: were jealous of each other and we somebody own I say, 1144 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 28: we have to change that narrative. I think we got 1145 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 28: the young people got to go back. And that's what 1146 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 28: I love about the TV series I'm about to put 1147 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 28: out so they could see how I celebrated Uncle Luke. 1148 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 28: I celebrated you know, Jay and all those Lowes. I 1149 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 28: mean I celebrated them because they can't before me. So Na, 1150 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 28: it wasn't no inspirational Yeah, that's what That's what it's about. 1151 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 8: Legend in the game Buster Ron Legend. 1152 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 2: What's it going to be with the with the lovely 1153 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 2: Missus Janet Jackson. 1154 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 29: Again Buster Mom some on some calm shit. I just 1155 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 29: combined it with the speed Wrap. But that song came 1156 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,720 Speaker 29: about as a result of Janet touring for the Velvet 1157 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:05,959 Speaker 29: Rope album that she did. She was on Hot ninety 1158 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 29: seven with Angie Martinez at the time when Angie was 1159 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 29: there before she went to Power one on five and 1160 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 29: she was doing an interview with Angie and I'm driving 1161 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 29: from Long Island to the city and at the time, 1162 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 29: I owned the Toyota Form Runner. 1163 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 2: It was my second whip that I ever had. 1164 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 5: It's ninety eight. I also had a Benz. 1165 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 29: And I didn't drive the Benz this particular day because 1166 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 29: I was in a rush and I had twenties on 1167 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 29: the Benz and I was always running into a situation 1168 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,800 Speaker 29: where you hit a pothole and the ship was the 1169 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 29: most annoying shit. So Angie asks Janet what rappers has 1170 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 29: she never worked with that she would like to work with. 1171 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,919 Speaker 29: She said, bust the rhyms. Nigga almost crashed my ship. 1172 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 29: I pulled over and I'm on the belt Parkway. I 1173 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 29: pulled over and I immediately called Mona Scott Young from 1174 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 29: Violator and I said, Mona, you need to get in 1175 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 29: touch with Janet now. She said high ninety seven. She 1176 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 29: said she want to work with busts the motherfucking rhymes 1177 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 29: until her. I got the perfect song for it, and 1178 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 29: I ain't have no song, so we had to find 1179 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 29: a song. And a brother named Delight produced the record 1180 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 29: and he got a young lady I forget her name 1181 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 29: to write the hook pen the hook for Janet. When 1182 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 29: I heard it, I fell in love with the shit 1183 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 29: immediately because nothing had sounded like it at the time 1184 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 29: on the radio, and it was something that it actually 1185 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 29: played into me being able to speed rap on it perfectly. 1186 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 29: I immediately got the record, Mona, got in touch with Janet, 1187 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 29: sent it to Janet. I didn't write the rhymes yet. 1188 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 29: We picked us, We pick us. She picks the studio 1189 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 29: session and it's somewhere in a different state from New York, 1190 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 29: and we go to the studio and I researched everything 1191 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 29: that Janet likes, what type of flowers she like, what 1192 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 29: type of candles she like. With the fragrances is that 1193 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 29: she like, and we dressed the fucking studio up exactly 1194 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 29: with all of the shit that she likes. Her security came, 1195 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 29: they advanced that shit. They walked around, searched every fucking 1196 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 29: room like they was screening and looking for fucking wiretaps 1197 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 29: and bugs everywhere. Some president shit. This was probably like 1198 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 29: three four hours before she showed up. And then when 1199 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 29: the Queen showed up, I gave her a nice brief greeting, 1200 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 29: hugged her, asked if she needed anything, and left her 1201 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 29: with the track with all the vocals on it for 1202 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 29: her to sing them over. And I bounced. I ain't 1203 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 29: even want to be around her long enough to do 1204 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 29: some shit wrong. I'm not fucking this moment, not even 1205 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 29: by accident. Right, Pierman Ain't nothing fashion than pem money, Right, 1206 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 29: I got the fun about it. There nothing faster than Pune. 1207 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1208 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 29: I went in another room next door and I wrote 1209 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 29: all the verses and then I spit them. Then I 1210 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 29: came back and I let the engineer imported in a session, revived, 1211 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 29: listened to it a couple of times. She was happy. 1212 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 29: I was super bugging out, couldn't believe this moment was real. 1213 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 29: And then when it came video to shoot time and 1214 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,919 Speaker 29: that terminated. Two movie came out and I saw that shit. 1215 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 29: I said, yeah, this is all that liquidy make you wet, shit, 1216 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:18,439 Speaker 29: wet dream all at talk called Hype Williams. I said, 1217 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 29: this is what we're doing. Big Bro called Sylvia Roon. 1218 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 29: I was scared they had that conversation because when Hype 1219 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 29: sent the budget back, that shit was two point four 1220 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 29: million dollars for that video to him, most expensive hip 1221 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 29: hop video ever shot to this day, and that was 1222 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 29: in fucking ninety eight. Imagine that terminated two million and 1223 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 29: fucking and fucking Titanic. The special effects company that did 1224 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 29: the Titanic movie was called Digital Domain. They did the 1225 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 29: effects for that video. O d overcharging niggas because they 1226 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 29: won all them fucking Oscars for the Titanic movie at 1227 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 29: that time, so there wasn't no negotiating with them. 1228 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 12: You just got robbed. 1229 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 29: I mean, the finished product was phenomenal, but it's so 1230 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 29: funny when you compare the prices to the shit that 1231 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 29: they charged me then to amazing shit that I'm able 1232 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 29: to do now. Of course, times is different and technology 1233 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 29: advanced a lot, but it was crazy when you did 1234 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 29: the research to find out what the fuck they was 1235 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 29: charging you for a while, was they charging you like that? 1236 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 29: Later on, not too long after neither, I would say 1237 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 29: two three years ago. I just was starting to be 1238 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 29: really confused about why did I get charged like this? 1239 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 29: And you know, we was getting so much money. We 1240 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 29: didn't even care. Man, it was like, fuck a royalty. 1241 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 29: You know, we're getting publishing deal money millions, and were 1242 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 29: getting touring millions, and we're getting. 1243 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 2: All types of other shit. 1244 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 11: It was just like whatever. 1245 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 29: But again, that was an unbelievable moment, and in Janet, 1246 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 29: by the time it got time to shoot the video, 1247 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 29: all of that nervous shit was out the window because 1248 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 29: now I'm fright in front of the camera. I gotta 1249 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 29: make it look like that's my wife. 1250 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 2: That wasn't That wasn't hard. That wasn't hard at all. 1251 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 2: Easy for the Ward is Bar. 1252 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 10: Now. 1253 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 2: But big up to Janet Jackson. 1254 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 29: Night Front twenty twenty three was the first time that 1255 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 29: we got to perform that record together together in twenty 1256 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 29: five years, because last year was the twenty fifth anniversary 1257 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 29: of that song and that album. So thank you to 1258 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 29: Janet for bringing me out at the garden where I 1259 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,959 Speaker 29: was able to celebrate twenty five anniversary of that song 1260 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 29: in my backyard in New York, and I tried to 1261 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,919 Speaker 29: recreate the whole environment in the studio because after the song, 1262 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 29: I bought all of them flowers in the same shit 1263 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 29: that we had in a stool on stage to give 1264 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 29: her her flowers. 1265 01:01:50,800 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, br welcome to the show. 1266 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 8: Dang Dash Kanye West. Actually eighteen years ago Colline dropout dropped. 1267 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 8: But before that, thoughts on him when you met him? 1268 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 8: Did you see it in him order right away? 1269 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 23: M hmm. 1270 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 30: I didn't see that one coming pause. I thought he 1271 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 30: could make good beats, just like a just Blaze or 1272 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 30: you know other producers. And you know, I didn't see 1273 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 30: him as a rapper. I really still don't. I think 1274 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 30: he's the best producer that could rap. But I know 1275 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 30: he wants to be a rapper, you know what I'm saying. 1276 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 30: But now, I didn't know that he was going to 1277 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 30: do that when he broke his jaw. That's when I 1278 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 30: knew he was gonna do that when he came back 1279 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 30: through the wire. But really, Bigs had brought that to 1280 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 30: my attention, like I think we should pay attention to Kanye, 1281 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 30: and what was happening was the Young Guns had a 1282 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 30: single album, Can Style, and and that ship was going 1283 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 30: crazy on the radio. And I was trying to put 1284 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 30: Kanye's out just because because Big was at the time, 1285 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 30: Big was trying to get more involved because that's what 1286 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,439 Speaker 30: Jay was beefing about, so he was doing all this shit. 1287 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 30: He was like, Yo, let's focus on this dude. And 1288 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,959 Speaker 30: I went to Leyre and was like, Yo, I'm gonna 1289 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 30: put out Kanye and he was like, no, We're gonna 1290 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 30: focus on such and such, and I was like, I'll 1291 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 30: take him someplace else cause I had to kind of. 1292 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:28,439 Speaker 10: I had so much work. 1293 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 30: I had deals with Atlantic with Rock Rockefell Atlantic and 1294 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 30: Rockefeller Sony as well, and me it wasn't there, and 1295 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 30: I forgot what the fuck was over there. But anyway, 1296 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 30: and then you know, you saw what they did, Camerton 1297 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 30: did and Jimmy with Cotch, and I just had so 1298 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 30: much work that I was just wasn't even exclusive. So 1299 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 30: I was taking them to Atlantic and I forgot it 1300 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 30: was it Craig Cole. 1301 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 11: Now I wasn't Craig, it. 1302 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 8: Was whoever it was. 1303 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 30: Was giving me the same kind of dumb shit as 1304 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 30: death jab and I was like, fuck it, I just 1305 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 30: put it out through here and he started to catch 1306 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 30: fire and they had no choice. But you know, I 1307 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 30: didn't know. I didn't know Kanye was gonna do what 1308 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 30: he did today. I thought that we were going to 1309 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 30: be able to leverage him. Like to me, Kanye was 1310 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 30: a guy that could knock at the door and they 1311 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 30: were gonna let him in and then all of us 1312 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 30: were going to run it because you know, we were looking. 1313 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 23: You know, he was wearing a different he had a. 1314 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 30: Different thing going, you know, but I didn't know that 1315 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 30: he was gonna do what he did and be so consistent, 1316 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 30: And I didn't know that he had such work. I 1317 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 30: knew he had work ethic because I was impressed by 1318 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:42,760 Speaker 30: you know, even looking at how he is now. You know, 1319 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 30: he's on one hundred, like he really deserves everything that 1320 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 30: he has because he does work that hard his whole 1321 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 30: He's dedicated his whole life to it. 1322 01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 8: We got a very special guest today in Chef. 1323 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 31: I never wanted to be an actor, never wanted to 1324 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 31: be a rapper. But I'm sitting in the fourth season 1325 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 31: hotel and the guy says, hey man, my Hollywood producer 1326 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 31: here's my card doing a movie called Blue Chips. I 1327 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,080 Speaker 31: think you should do it now. I'm not a good 1328 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 31: I don't know. I've never acted in my life. You 1329 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 31: gotta do is play basketball, play yourself. Nah, we're gonna 1330 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:19,919 Speaker 31: get you three million. 1331 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 5: Ho much, he said, what I'll do it? 1332 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:27,520 Speaker 31: So just playing, you know, with And that's how I'm 1333 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 31: at Penny and know everything happens for a reason. And 1334 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 31: same thing with the rap thing. When I first get drafted, 1335 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 31: like Cenio Halls bucket me. You know, Mayne want you 1336 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,640 Speaker 31: to be on the show. I don't want to be 1337 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,360 Speaker 31: like everybody else. I don't want to go get no 1338 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 31: fifteen hundred dollars suit talking. I said, let me do 1339 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 31: that and then let me wrap that the end. So 1340 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 31: I did something with foo snickings. My agent called me. 1341 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 31: He said, man, hein' not gonna believe this. He said 1342 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 31: what he said, jib, I'll offer you a three album 1343 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 31: deal ten million. 1344 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:53,920 Speaker 5: I'm taking that. 1345 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:55,360 Speaker 13: Yeah. 1346 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,800 Speaker 31: But then but then I meet with job. I said, look, 1347 01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 31: nobody wants to hit me rap by myself, me rap 1348 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 31: it out of my favorite So as a kid that 1349 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 31: was on punishment, it's like a dream come true. 1350 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 2: Look out of them dead Snoop. 1351 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 31: Peter Guns, Lord, Tariq Nas, Jay Z, Fat Joe, Like, 1352 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 31: I don't know, Michael, Yes, you can't stop the ring. 1353 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 31: That's what it was about for. It ain't about being 1354 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 31: like because you know, rappers don't rappers don't make no money. 1355 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 31: You gotta you gotta be Travis Scott to make money. Yeah, 1356 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 31: Like because I went platinum and I got to check 1357 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 31: for a million dollars, I was like, what is this? 1358 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 31: But you know I had the commitments. It was fun. So, 1359 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 31: you know, we don't get a lot of opportunities. I 1360 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 31: was always taught to take advantage of my opportunities. So 1361 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 31: every time I get opportunity, I'm always taking advantage of it. 1362 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 5: Period. 1363 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 8: Our brother Gibbs, another notable name something ain't know. 1364 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 32: Michael Jackson, Yeah, Michael Jackson to beat my daddy ass 1365 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 32: and the talent shows. 1366 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:13,439 Speaker 12: Really my dad has some talent. 1367 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 32: Yeah, my dad seen my dad in the shotlights. Matter 1368 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 32: of fact, you know what I'm saying. So but like 1369 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,439 Speaker 32: he you know what I mean, Like, you know, tried 1370 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 32: to go because him and Mike the same age, so 1371 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 32: you know, they was always bumping heads in the talent 1372 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 32: shows and Michael fucked that nigga up. 1373 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 2: I was like, man, you can't fuck with Mike. 1374 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 32: And then nigga and niggas did the talent show like 1375 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,640 Speaker 32: Mike brought the whole group out on his motherfucker Dad. 1376 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,720 Speaker 32: I'm like, you up that solo. He got t th Jermaine, 1377 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 32: they all doing the step, they got moves, they got Joe, 1378 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 32: you know what I'm saying. Like they had Joe pushing him. 1379 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:42,960 Speaker 2: Niggas. 1380 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 11: You ain't have nobody. 1381 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,800 Speaker 32: You just had your mama telling you yes, my baby, 1382 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 32: like Mike had a team niggas. So yeah, niggas, he 1383 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 32: couldn't fuck with Mike. You dad, but you know you 1384 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,800 Speaker 32: can't fuck with you. God damn well, you can't fuck 1385 01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 32: with Mike. Uh, Michael's fucking you up. Your whole life. 1386 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 2: May be watching fucking Michael Jackson on TV. 1387 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 1: Turn that off. 1388 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 8: Want to see no part of it. 1389 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 11: He listened to it on the low though, love. 1390 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,679 Speaker 8: Welcome to the show, the legendary DJ Quick. 1391 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 14: Did you know that when you're creating a sound, that 1392 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 14: it would be a sound that last and standard test 1393 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 14: of time? 1394 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:30,599 Speaker 6: Uh? 1395 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 23: No, I didn't, Honestly, I was just doing it as 1396 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 23: a means to an end. I just wanted a car. 1397 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 23: You know, I want to Jetta and put some rams on. 1398 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,520 Speaker 12: You said, you want to put on the Jetta. 1399 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 23: Low ambitions gold. I bought a gold jettis JL Yep, 1400 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 23: that was what I got. It like killing, that's all 1401 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 23: I wanted, you know, that's all. 1402 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 33: I'm gonna sell about a thousand copies because I got 1403 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 33: out of the we were talking about this last night. 1404 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 23: Me an exhibit the problem. 1405 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 33: How you know, I was selling cassetts like I got 1406 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 33: out a whole dope game, trying to help so you know, 1407 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:02,479 Speaker 33: cracker whatnot. 1408 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 23: It's like this, this ain't for me. I don't like 1409 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 23: doing this to my people. 1410 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 33: So I turned that hustle into making cassettes and music 1411 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 33: and selling them, you know, hand to hand, and it 1412 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:12,439 Speaker 33: just it overwhelmed me. 1413 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 23: The people really wanted these cassettes. 1414 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,680 Speaker 33: I was personalizing and putting certain people's names in them, 1415 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,760 Speaker 33: and they'd be like, let me buy the whole box. 1416 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,200 Speaker 33: So I got to sit up here and make duplicates 1417 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 33: of cassettes like I ain't cut off of this. You know, 1418 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,640 Speaker 33: I sell one hundred cassettes. I'm tired. Even though I 1419 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 33: made money off of them. I'm like, you know, that's 1420 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,599 Speaker 33: real work. Back then, Oh my god, I need a deal. 1421 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 23: Somebody else got to do this because I had a demand. 1422 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 33: People was buying my cassets, and people was telling me that, 1423 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 33: hey man, they got your people playing your music in 1424 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 33: Salt Lake City. 1425 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 23: I'm like, get the fuck out of here. Where's Salt 1426 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:41,639 Speaker 23: Lake City? 1427 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 2: Exactly? 1428 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 33: But the cassette to start moving across the state lines 1429 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,080 Speaker 33: by itself. People was dubbing it and passing it on, 1430 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,719 Speaker 33: and before you know it, I had a little reputation 1431 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 33: with the little cassetts. Then I did this one called 1432 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 33: the Red Tape with my boys Second and nine AMG 1433 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 33: and it blew. So I was selling a bunch of them. 1434 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 33: I was handwriting all of them. Like, we had no distributors. 1435 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,719 Speaker 33: So I go buy the blank cassettes, get this duplication 1436 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 33: machine and just run them off and put the little 1437 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 33: sticker on them and write our names on it. You 1438 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 33: know then about stamping and you know, printing press all that. 1439 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 33: We was just doing it by hand by hand, you know, 1440 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 33: hand in hand. And you know, I ended up buying 1441 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 33: all the equipment that I wanted and it was cool, 1442 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 33: but I didn't know it was going. 1443 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,840 Speaker 23: I didn't always gonna go platinum. I'm like, you know, 1444 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:26,560 Speaker 23: people like it. 1445 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,280 Speaker 33: But then I started writing songs about everything we was experiencing. 1446 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 33: So I was just a voice of us, us being 1447 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,599 Speaker 33: the youth, us being who we were at that time, 1448 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,639 Speaker 33: and it resonated with a lot of people. Songs like Tonight, 1449 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 33: Sweet Black Pussy, you know, Born and Raising Compton, them songs. 1450 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 33: It made sense people could relate, and so passed a 1451 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,160 Speaker 33: little thousand copies. One of my home boys used to 1452 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 33: work at the Warehouse Records in Inglewood, and my record 1453 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:59,639 Speaker 33: debuted on January seventh, nineteen ninety one. So we called 1454 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,120 Speaker 33: up there see how I was doing. He said, Bro, 1455 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,080 Speaker 33: you sold out, he said, he showed out. All your 1456 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,240 Speaker 33: albums sold out on one day, Like we got to 1457 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 33: order again. I was like, okay, all right. So they're 1458 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,639 Speaker 33: telling me, like, dude, you're nominated for American Music Award. 1459 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 33: I got to meet Dick Clark, nominated for American Music 1460 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,720 Speaker 33: Award on my first single, shot a cool video, you 1461 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 33: know what I mean? 1462 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,759 Speaker 8: At this point, mm hmm, freshman. 1463 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,920 Speaker 33: So it was it was it was a lot to 1464 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,400 Speaker 33: take in, bro, But you know, my thing is I 1465 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 33: just wanted to be DJ quick. I wanted to be 1466 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,479 Speaker 33: behind the scenes, just DJ for like penthous players clicking 1467 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 33: second and none and AMG and whatnot, and they just 1468 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 33: kept pushing me off front. 1469 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 23: It's like whatever, you know, it was anxiety and coming 1470 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:44,560 Speaker 23: with a lot of people don't know. 1471 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I. 1472 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:50,560 Speaker 33: Produced like three albums albums in my first year, you know, 1473 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 33: as a debut artist, I was. I stayed in the studio. 1474 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 33: I missed you know, I missed a lot of touring 1475 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 33: because I just wanted to stay in the studio and 1476 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 33: just keep hashing out, you know, keep creating the sound. 1477 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,720 Speaker 2: You know, as as best as you can. Because it's 1478 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,000 Speaker 2: one of my favorite songs too. 1479 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 14: Can you take uh, take us like to the studio 1480 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 14: with you making tonight the night you made this song? Like, 1481 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 14: what was what was the vibe like in the studio 1482 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:16,519 Speaker 14: that night? 1483 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,720 Speaker 33: It was I did a house two thousand and one 1484 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,679 Speaker 33: brown and bull Browning Avenue in La Like the whole 1485 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 33: scene looked like the boys in the Hood movie and 1486 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 33: it was that kind of house in a. 1487 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,439 Speaker 23: Little kitchen nook s p. Twelve hundred. 1488 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,160 Speaker 33: I was producing my boy player Ham at the time, 1489 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 33: and you know I sampled that beat one of the 1490 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,680 Speaker 33: one of the homies brought the album over and I 1491 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 33: remembered that that clear album, but it was just hard 1492 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 33: to find at that point. 1493 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 23: Somebody found it, let me use it. 1494 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,560 Speaker 33: I sampled it and just kept looping it and you know, 1495 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 33: did the drums to it and just kind of let 1496 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 33: it just you know, back then, we let the beat just. 1497 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 23: Run for like a whole day. Yeah, you hear, you 1498 01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,600 Speaker 23: hear some inspiration. 1499 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 33: At this time, I'm nineteen and we experimenting with you know, 1500 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 33: eight ball Old English eight hundred and weed and shooting 1501 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 33: dice and stuff. 1502 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 23: So I'm like, this is what is this is what's fun. 1503 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 33: So I just started writing about that ship right, And 1504 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 33: during the the writing of it, I came up with 1505 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,639 Speaker 33: the hook, you know, I you know, i'm playing records. 1506 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,960 Speaker 33: I'm just using what I got basically, and I had 1507 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,840 Speaker 33: a you know, Betty Right record Tonight is the Night. 1508 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 23: So I sampled it tonight and scratch it in Tonight 1509 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:31,479 Speaker 23: is the Nice. 1510 01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 33: Spin it back, you know, keep working on it until 1511 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 33: it's on beat and third verses open player. 1512 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,400 Speaker 23: Hamp didn't want to get on it. It was like, 1513 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:40,160 Speaker 23: go ahead and finish it. 1514 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:40,439 Speaker 11: That's you. 1515 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 33: So the homie Shaney comes over with some gin and 1516 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:46,840 Speaker 33: this is before you know, I was drinking hard, like 1517 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:48,599 Speaker 33: it was just you know, a beer. 1518 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 23: At that point, my man was like boom, like you know, poor. 1519 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 33: The big bumpy face with the super socco was drinking it, 1520 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,519 Speaker 33: drinking it, drinking. 1521 01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,519 Speaker 23: I'm like, man, this is bomb. You know, this is 1522 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,800 Speaker 23: before I there's a limit. It's like it's so it's 1523 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 23: sweet good, all right, bad news man, too good? 1524 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 2: Hit it again. 1525 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,640 Speaker 33: I started spinning, start tripping. They said, you know that 1526 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,360 Speaker 33: your homemades have to tell you what you was doing 1527 01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 33: last night. I was like, I did what I did? 1528 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 23: What? 1529 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,320 Speaker 2: You know? That ship? You just had one of those 1530 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 2: last night thanks to. 1531 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:28,040 Speaker 23: So I'm like the next day, I'm like, oh man, 1532 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 23: I got the flu. I had the flu. It was 1533 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:31,639 Speaker 23: a hangover. 1534 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:33,640 Speaker 11: The fuck is this? 1535 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 23: We got to go in there and hug that toilet 1536 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,640 Speaker 23: and get rid of that ship. Like and I was like, 1537 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,320 Speaker 23: I ain't never drinking again. 1538 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,920 Speaker 33: Ever, I was cool and I didn't for a while, 1539 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 33: but that ended up being the last verse. I just 1540 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,400 Speaker 33: wrote it still like hungover wrote that ship that just 1541 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,519 Speaker 33: it was like I documented it right there. 1542 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 8: As soon as they come. 1543 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:53,479 Speaker 12: We're doing the same old thing to. 1544 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 23: That's what happened. It was like you got to you 1545 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,720 Speaker 23: gotta get your your tolerance self? Is what are these 1546 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:01,840 Speaker 23: words y'all talking about? 1547 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:03,760 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1548 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 12: So that's fun. 1549 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:05,800 Speaker 11: That's that was the story. 1550 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,120 Speaker 33: I've ended up recording the song, put it on the 1551 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 33: mixtape and everybody loved it, you know. So, and it 1552 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,920 Speaker 33: was dirty. It had real hood references, you know, because 1553 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 33: I was grinding back there. I was mentioning all the 1554 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,040 Speaker 33: niggas with they surnames. They had blood in their name, 1555 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 33: cripping their name, you know this nigga loak and all this, 1556 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 33: just putting their whole name in it, like keeping it real, 1557 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 33: you know what I'm saying. 1558 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:29,680 Speaker 23: So I had to clean that ship up for. 1559 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 2: The radio, and I did. 1560 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 11: I just swished it right over. 1561 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 8: The one that was Ludacris Mali two thousands. You cross 1562 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,639 Speaker 8: paths with many legends. We try to compile a list 1563 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,560 Speaker 8: when we tell you the name and the song, just 1564 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,800 Speaker 8: tell us a little bit about it. Uh Nate dogg 1565 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 8: and area codes. Wow, man, that's my peace. 1566 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,280 Speaker 7: I'm the biggest Nate Dog fan in the world, man. 1567 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,160 Speaker 7: People know, and I think I've done more songs with 1568 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,920 Speaker 7: Nate Dogg collectively than any other artists maybe Sierra, but 1569 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 7: Nate Dogg was just man, He's just amazing. 1570 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 2: He's just amazing. 1571 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 7: He smoked the whole wherever you at, he'll smoke that 1572 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 7: whole shit down, and uh, you know he just you 1573 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,080 Speaker 7: throw on the beat, he'll smoke. Take him about an 1574 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,600 Speaker 7: hour or two. When he jumps in that booth, everybody's 1575 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,599 Speaker 7: paying attention. Kills it every single time. But just such 1576 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:28,560 Speaker 7: an a dope demeanor about himself, cool, calm, collected, and 1577 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 7: you know, just how he chose his melodies and how 1578 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,920 Speaker 7: he chose to do certain things musically was just always 1579 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,880 Speaker 7: surprising to you because it was out of the unexpected. 1580 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,679 Speaker 7: I know people would say talk about his tone and stuff, 1581 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,800 Speaker 7: but he was one of the most complex individuals when 1582 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,760 Speaker 7: it comes to singing not only hooks, but just entire 1583 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,240 Speaker 7: songs that I ever encountered. 1584 01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,400 Speaker 2: So I'm huge Nate Doggh. 1585 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:58,440 Speaker 8: Man man uh thrailing the Neptune's Southern hospitality. 1586 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 7: I was gonna something just came to mind when I 1587 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,360 Speaker 7: was like one of my favorite rap lines I said 1588 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 7: on one of Nate dogs songs, and I said something 1589 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 7: like something something going to bed. You got a frog 1590 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 7: in your throat like miss Piggy giving head. 1591 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:14,800 Speaker 1: I was just like God damn. 1592 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:19,400 Speaker 7: Sometimes I'll be saying, some of the artists in the world, okay, sorry, 1593 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,280 Speaker 7: put me up there. Man, come on, come on man. 1594 01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,719 Speaker 12: Welcome Roy Jones memorable ring walks. 1595 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,519 Speaker 8: She once appeared in the back of the Radio City 1596 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,839 Speaker 8: Auditorium in the tux joined by Red meth. 1597 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:46,680 Speaker 2: Man. 1598 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:52,680 Speaker 34: Let me explain something to you, Hbo, who also made me, 1599 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 34: helped make me help the world get to know who 1600 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:56,560 Speaker 34: Jon's dream was. 1601 01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 11: But it really messed me up that particularly calls. 1602 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,240 Speaker 34: They showed movies with cursing and all kind of stuff 1603 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,799 Speaker 34: after now after seven o'clock at night, this boxing. 1604 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,040 Speaker 11: This is the first time ever. 1605 01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,479 Speaker 34: Now mind you, this now first time ever that rap 1606 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,760 Speaker 34: music was in Radio City Music Hall. First time ever 1607 01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,519 Speaker 34: radio see the music hall never had rapping it before. 1608 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 34: That was the first time ever. Also had Whitt in 1609 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,320 Speaker 34: Houston singing God Bless America. 1610 01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 11: So you got such a big night that. 1611 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,840 Speaker 34: You're gonna mute the audio because of lyrical contact of 1612 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:33,559 Speaker 34: rap music. 1613 01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 11: But all the movies you play with all the bad 1614 01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,679 Speaker 11: lyrical content in it. Once again, I'm gonna get the short. 1615 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 5: In the stick. 1616 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 34: You feel, and that was the best ring interest that 1617 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,920 Speaker 34: I've seen to this day. Me met and read all 1618 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,960 Speaker 34: dancing rapping. Come on, you don't get no better than 1619 01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 34: the mute the audio because y'all worry about the lyrical content. 1620 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,920 Speaker 34: What more can they say that the movies y'all playing 1621 01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:58,919 Speaker 34: after seven o'clock. 1622 01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,120 Speaker 11: Saying it's worse on the movie you feel so. 1623 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,000 Speaker 34: Completely they completely wiped out the best ring interest of 1624 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:08,599 Speaker 34: all times. 1625 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,360 Speaker 11: That if it would have been if you could have 1626 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,400 Speaker 11: heard the lyrical and now people still loved it, them wrong. 1627 01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 11: But if you could have heard it and really felt 1628 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 11: what we felt energy, you would have felt the whole 1629 01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:18,600 Speaker 11: energy of it. 1630 01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 34: You missed the energy because they wouldn't play the lyrics 1631 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,080 Speaker 34: the lyrical content over the TV screen cold game. But 1632 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 34: and the second my second paper window was I didn't 1633 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 34: want to pourt an organ. I think briand Jordan and 1634 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 34: Nike you had sponsored the fight for me important that 1635 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 34: I came about the flow and I had the girls 1636 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:40,840 Speaker 34: dancing and I did one of my own songs. 1637 01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 35: That was my second paper, The legendary ice cube in 1638 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 35: the building today. 1639 01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 8: Your relationship was easy. Your reconciliation before it's passing. Uh 1640 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,439 Speaker 8: talk to us about that and how important it was 1641 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,679 Speaker 8: to reconcile with him before its untimely passing. 1642 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:07,920 Speaker 36: Man, it was very you know, I feel very you know, 1643 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:12,360 Speaker 36: satisfied because I was able to do that. I think 1644 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 36: I would be you know, real restless, you know about 1645 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 36: it a little more if if he didn't know what 1646 01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,280 Speaker 36: he really meant to me, you know what I'm saying 1647 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 36: outside the bullshit, and I was able to express that 1648 01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,519 Speaker 36: and we was able to truly get past it. You know, 1649 01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 36: sometimes you could say, you know, we squashed this shit, right, 1650 01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,479 Speaker 36: and it's like, yeah, yeah, all right, yeah, we squashed 1651 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,559 Speaker 36: all right, you know, but you ain't about to mess 1652 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 36: with dude ever again, you know what I'm saying. But 1653 01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,959 Speaker 36: sometimes you can squash it and it really be squashed 1654 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:52,559 Speaker 36: and you just continue like it never even happened. Almost, 1655 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 36: And I knew that I was gonna reach out to him. 1656 01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,600 Speaker 36: I was gonna work with him if he wanted to, 1657 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,240 Speaker 36: if he could put NWA back together and get Dre 1658 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 36: back on, I was gonna work with So, you know, 1659 01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:14,840 Speaker 36: I just knew that, you know, we really squashed our 1660 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:15,639 Speaker 36: beef that day. 1661 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 8: So it was great your departure for NWA. Obviously, it 1662 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,040 Speaker 8: was portraying the film and you can read about it, 1663 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,160 Speaker 8: and we know about it, but for those who don't, 1664 01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 8: what was your main reason behind leaving NWA? 1665 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:33,760 Speaker 36: I just felt like we wasn't the top priority of 1666 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 36: the management. I felt like it was a conflict of 1667 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 36: interest in a lot of ways that Jerry Heller was 1668 01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:55,600 Speaker 36: so close to owning and running Ruthless with Easy, that 1669 01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,240 Speaker 36: him being our manager, that he would look out for 1670 01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:04,400 Speaker 36: Easy and not really in WA. So that was one conflict. 1671 01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,320 Speaker 36: And he just proved me right on how he was 1672 01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 36: dealing with my business in particular, and he straight up 1673 01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,640 Speaker 36: lied on my momhums, you know what I'm saying, Like 1674 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,759 Speaker 36: he lied on that for no reason. There's no reason 1675 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:25,360 Speaker 36: to lie. And so as a youngster, all the other 1676 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,519 Speaker 36: things you can kind of get with, but one thing 1677 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,960 Speaker 36: is the start. It breaks the camel's back. 1678 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:32,519 Speaker 18: And that was it. 1679 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,800 Speaker 36: And I'm like a man that a lie to a 1680 01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 36: dude about his own mama, it's not a man to 1681 01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,040 Speaker 36: be trusted. I didn't trust him. I didn't sign the 1682 01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 36: contracts when they was presented, and they ostracized me. And 1683 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,400 Speaker 36: what was crazy is like once I left the group, 1684 01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:58,680 Speaker 36: they started to pay me. Like once I had a 1685 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,760 Speaker 36: solo deal. They started to pay me, and I didn't understand, 1686 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,439 Speaker 36: and I went to my manager, Pat Sharpnay, and I'm. 1687 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,559 Speaker 18: Like, why why they? 1688 01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:11,519 Speaker 11: Yeah, why they paying me now? 1689 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,040 Speaker 36: It's like they cause all this ship we got fuse 1690 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,040 Speaker 36: in the street, we got records against against each other 1691 01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,800 Speaker 36: and all kinds of ship. Like, why they paying me now? 1692 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:26,120 Speaker 36: He said, because you were right and they don't want 1693 01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,559 Speaker 36: you to see him? And I said, well, why didn't 1694 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,720 Speaker 36: just pay me when I was in the group. He said, well, 1695 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,880 Speaker 36: they would have had to pay everybody else, so they 1696 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 36: rather get you out the way and not have to 1697 01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,679 Speaker 36: pay for other people. 1698 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:43,360 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 1699 01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 23: So bullshit, dirty game. 1700 01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,599 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, David Banner. How do you make 1701 01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:57,759 Speaker 2: beats while you're homeless? 1702 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:03,720 Speaker 6: Oh man, that's dope, great question. I tell kids this. Bro, Like, 1703 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:09,040 Speaker 6: I went to Walmart and got a what's the thing 1704 01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,800 Speaker 6: that tread It takes the electricity? You put it in 1705 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,519 Speaker 6: a converter. Yeah, I went to Walmart and got a 1706 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:20,599 Speaker 6: converter and built the studio of my van and bro 1707 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,360 Speaker 6: like a lot of my homeboys didn't want to get 1708 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,840 Speaker 6: on the road with me, dude, and so I turned 1709 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,439 Speaker 6: that the passenger side literally into a studio. 1710 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:27,920 Speaker 18: But I ain't. 1711 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,040 Speaker 14: I'm me personally. I'm deeper than that. I ain't talking 1712 01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 14: about the equipment. I'm talking about mentally, like how you 1713 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:37,040 Speaker 14: even keep yourself focused? To know you homeless? I gotta 1714 01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:38,120 Speaker 14: do this to you, know what I mean? 1715 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:38,400 Speaker 3: All right? 1716 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,400 Speaker 6: I tell you why, Because I did some research, bro, 1717 01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,360 Speaker 6: and I found out there's two types of rich people. 1718 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 6: There's rich people who become rich because they have family 1719 01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,439 Speaker 6: and their parents have influence, so their parents have friends, 1720 01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:56,240 Speaker 6: like they can show you the way. Or you could 1721 01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,320 Speaker 6: be so fucking poor that you don't have no fucking choice. 1722 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,720 Speaker 6: You either gonna make it, you're gonna die. So I 1723 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,599 Speaker 6: didn't know no rich people. I didn't have to be homeless. 1724 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:05,719 Speaker 2: Bro, we didn't hear ship. 1725 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 6: I didn't have to be homeless. But I knew that 1726 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,479 Speaker 6: either I can be lower middle class and work at 1727 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,880 Speaker 6: a bank and have a fucking boring ass life because 1728 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,600 Speaker 6: to me, hell is working in the fucking office and 1729 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,880 Speaker 6: doing the same fucking thing every day. Bro, I probably 1730 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,960 Speaker 6: blow my fucking brains up. As hard as it is 1731 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,400 Speaker 6: for us, there is not one day in any of 1732 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 6: our lives that's the same. This ship is actually like 1733 01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:33,960 Speaker 6: being on the fucking Gandalf or something. I'm serious, bro Like, 1734 01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:39,680 Speaker 6: it's like being a fucking wizard. Every day we create magic. Yeah, 1735 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,040 Speaker 6: Lord of the Ring. Yeah, like, bro, we this ship is. 1736 01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 6: This ship is fun. 1737 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:45,000 Speaker 2: Bro Like. 1738 01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,600 Speaker 6: Honestly, we at work high. I mean a lot of 1739 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:49,519 Speaker 6: y'all at work high. 1740 01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:50,800 Speaker 2: But y'all faking y'all. 1741 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 6: Y'all can't say y'all high. 1742 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,479 Speaker 2: Everybody on our staff is fine. 1743 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:55,240 Speaker 14: Oh y'all high. 1744 01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, fucking light up here. 1745 01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:58,880 Speaker 2: We do it as a team. Oh that's what you 1746 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,719 Speaker 2: think about it. Every we do everything. 1747 01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:02,920 Speaker 18: We do everything. 1748 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 2: It's just a high rainbow over there, yeah everybody. 1749 01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,560 Speaker 6: But no, man, I knew that in order for me 1750 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:15,080 Speaker 6: to be successful, I had to burn the bridges. Not 1751 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,679 Speaker 6: only I not only burn the bridges, I burned the boats. 1752 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:18,880 Speaker 2: Doug. 1753 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,240 Speaker 6: I was SGA president at Southern bro. They said I 1754 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 6: was one of the best SGA presidents in history ever, bro, Like, 1755 01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,479 Speaker 6: I could have I could have done that corporate shiit bro. 1756 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,600 Speaker 6: I was a semester in the thesis. I'm I'm a 1757 01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:30,519 Speaker 6: semester in the thesis. 1758 01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:31,760 Speaker 18: Away from my master's. 1759 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,439 Speaker 6: Degree, I had a three point nine nine eight seven 1760 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 6: an Accelerated Masters program is like a paper. So yeah, 1761 01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,479 Speaker 6: I've always been intelligent, always, bro. When I was in 1762 01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,479 Speaker 6: when I was in the third grade, i read on 1763 01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,519 Speaker 6: a junior and college level. I could count to a million. 1764 01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,680 Speaker 2: I knew that. That's funny because I knew that, right, 1765 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:53,679 Speaker 2: you're looking at everything. 1766 01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,200 Speaker 1: It's like, what, look at my brother? 1767 01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:57,479 Speaker 11: You know what the thesis is? 1768 01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:57,800 Speaker 8: Right? 1769 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,280 Speaker 6: And so for me, it's so for me, it was 1770 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,559 Speaker 6: just it was just like I had to burn the bridges, man, 1771 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,160 Speaker 6: and I had to get out there man, and it 1772 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:06,880 Speaker 6: was crazy man. 1773 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:07,040 Speaker 2: Like. 1774 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,800 Speaker 6: I went back to the streets twice, bro, Like I 1775 01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,920 Speaker 6: made it out and then I went back and created 1776 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 6: it my own company. 1777 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:19,360 Speaker 20: Huh, just twice, yeah, just twice, Just twice, Okay, okay, 1778 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:22,320 Speaker 20: just twice. 1779 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,640 Speaker 6: I'm different than these other negroes. I'm not proud of 1780 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,560 Speaker 6: that ship, Bro'm a I'm sort of embarrassed some of 1781 01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,400 Speaker 6: the ship that I did. Like we talked about outside, 1782 01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:32,560 Speaker 6: I'm not happy about that. 1783 01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:32,800 Speaker 2: Shit. 1784 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,519 Speaker 6: Ain't nothing cute about that ship at all. 1785 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:34,760 Speaker 8: Bro. 1786 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,680 Speaker 6: You know, I'm just happy that we are able to 1787 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:38,560 Speaker 6: talk about it. 1788 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:43,679 Speaker 14: Now, tell me this, with the record business being so shady, 1789 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,960 Speaker 14: how how did you learn it and navigate through it 1790 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:46,960 Speaker 14: being independent. 1791 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:49,040 Speaker 11: I didn't know. 1792 01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 6: Eric Abatu taught me this like in some cases, and 1793 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:55,920 Speaker 6: you know, I'm a man of knowledge. I never say 1794 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,320 Speaker 6: that ignorance is cool. But like, Bro, I really thought 1795 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,360 Speaker 6: that ship was real. Bro, I really thought that that. 1796 01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,880 Speaker 6: Like I looked at hip hop. My little homeboy man 1797 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:07,720 Speaker 6: who just got out the streets. He used to tell 1798 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,080 Speaker 6: me that shit all the time. He said, Man, this 1799 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 6: rap shit hurt you, like it's a girl or something. Bro, Like, 1800 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 6: I really love the rap. Bro, I really thought that 1801 01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,200 Speaker 6: shit was real. Motherfuckers don't care nothing about us. Bro. 1802 01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,320 Speaker 6: You know, Pimp taught me that, Bro, like we got 1803 01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,400 Speaker 6: to care for us. I got this theory, man, that 1804 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:29,080 Speaker 6: the story of Jesus, the story of Jesus isn't about 1805 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:32,720 Speaker 6: a man coming down bearing a cross for you. I 1806 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:34,880 Speaker 6: believe the story of Jesus is about a man coming 1807 01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,679 Speaker 6: down to show you how to bear your own cross. 1808 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,040 Speaker 6: So like hip hop, hip hop ain't fair hip hop 1809 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,160 Speaker 6: being pay attention to us until the Bay Area in 1810 01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 6: Texas showed us how to be independent, how to make 1811 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,679 Speaker 6: our own record companies. They only cared about Southern hip 1812 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,040 Speaker 6: hop because we were making more money than they were 1813 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,400 Speaker 6: as a whole. We didn't look at ourselves. Imagine little 1814 01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:04,639 Speaker 6: flip thugger David Ludacris pastor Troy E forty two short 1815 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:09,080 Speaker 6: master p. Imagine how many to the South Park Mexicans, 1816 01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,840 Speaker 6: how much money we were making as a conglomerate. 1817 01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:12,080 Speaker 18: Bro. 1818 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,120 Speaker 6: So what they did is they signed all of us, 1819 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,200 Speaker 6: got us all out of the way, and then motherfuckers 1820 01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:18,599 Speaker 6: fell off. 1821 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 32: Bro. 1822 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,320 Speaker 6: But together we were putting the dent in that shit, y'all. 1823 01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 6: And we didn't have the We didn't have the foresight 1824 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:32,080 Speaker 6: to see what they did. And then watch this, watch this, 1825 01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:33,280 Speaker 6: this fuck your head up. 1826 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,439 Speaker 10: Then we learned how to get mom and pop stores. 1827 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:43,320 Speaker 6: We had a Southwest distribution, we had Gonzales, we had 1828 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,720 Speaker 6: our own distribution companies. They sucked the distribution companies up, 1829 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,840 Speaker 6: bought the distribution companies, sick the fans on the main 1830 01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:54,880 Speaker 6: DJs and the mom and pop stores. Then they sucked 1831 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,479 Speaker 6: the mom and pop stores up, then closed the Virgin 1832 01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,640 Speaker 6: Mega store. Right when we had learned, br I just 1833 01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:02,479 Speaker 6: got to the point where I was getting nine dollars 1834 01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,880 Speaker 6: a fucking album. Dog. If I would have sold one 1835 01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:10,679 Speaker 6: more album, Bro, and then nigroes wan to stream I'm 1836 01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,280 Speaker 6: about to getting nine dollars and you tell me now, 1837 01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 6: I'm getting a fraction of a penny. Shit, Bro, This shit, Bro, 1838 01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:24,400 Speaker 6: it's actually genius. Racism, Bro, and imperialism is actually genius. 1839 01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,200 Speaker 6: Me and Scott was talking about this in the back. 1840 01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,040 Speaker 6: If you take away the fact that they fucking over us, 1841 01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:31,360 Speaker 6: the shit is actually genius. 1842 01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:31,519 Speaker 13: Bro. 1843 01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,720 Speaker 6: And they got us happy about streaming. Man, that shit 1844 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:39,479 Speaker 6: so fucking stupid, you know. But what I will say 1845 01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,280 Speaker 6: bro again, Bro, Like, all we have to do is 1846 01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,800 Speaker 6: be successful, Bro, and then we can change the shit 1847 01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,280 Speaker 6: for these kids. Cause think about what they have successfully done. 1848 01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,519 Speaker 6: There is now one generation of children that have never 1849 01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:57,160 Speaker 6: bought anything, so it's hard to convince them to give 1850 01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:00,120 Speaker 6: you nine dollars an album for something that they have 1851 01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,840 Speaker 6: always gotten for free. And then we're giving our money 1852 01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:07,160 Speaker 6: to tech companies, not even people who care about us, 1853 01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,600 Speaker 6: who care about music, who even know who we are. Bro, 1854 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,560 Speaker 6: it's funny. I'm about to be I'm about to go 1855 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,720 Speaker 6: meet with the dude from Spotify. But the real truth is, Bro, 1856 01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:22,720 Speaker 6: from a business perspective, you my enemy. And it's hard 1857 01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,160 Speaker 6: bro when it's just one of us. Bro, that shit 1858 01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,760 Speaker 6: so fucking lonely dog when God has blessed you with 1859 01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:32,000 Speaker 6: the information to know better. Bro, and niggas look at 1860 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,479 Speaker 6: you like you crazy or like you wet. And then 1861 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,080 Speaker 6: sometimes because we're in flesh, sometimes you start tripping, like damn, 1862 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,880 Speaker 6: am I fucked up? You know who knows