Speaker 1: They're sitting at the twenty, maybe just outside Winstone to
Speaker 1: the end zone. Forgotten went in a touchdown, which right
Speaker 1: now they got him stacked in tight. They run at
Speaker 1: and the call is out. What's the call? No signal
Speaker 1: yet looked like it might have been a safety. The
Speaker 1: officials get together, Keithley was there? Safety direct snap? They
Speaker 1: faked the toss McCaffrey depends where they put it. What
Speaker 1: a play by hard Graves out on the edge and
Speaker 1: he did not get it. And there you have. The
Speaker 1: Bucks get the big stop at the goal line, clinching
Speaker 1: a fourteen win over the Carolina Panthers in Charlotte, a
Speaker 1: huge win for the Bucks in the division on the
Speaker 1: road and a really tough stuck back for the Panthers
Speaker 1: who fall to oh and to Dan Hansas. With the
Speaker 1: rest of the Around the NFL podcast here at west
Speaker 1: Sylvania is that? What where did we come down on?
Speaker 1: What did we get Westchester? The West Roast thing? But
Speaker 1: that might not aid. West Roast did not play well
Speaker 1: on Twitter if that matter. You know, we should go
Speaker 1: to the subreddit and let give them choices and have
Speaker 1: a vote. Well, we'll get back to that anyway. Bucks
Speaker 1: over the Panthers, Greg, This was not a pretty game.
Speaker 1: This is not and you know, you think every game
Speaker 1: is great, but not all football is quality football to watch.
Speaker 1: This had a weather delay that has had some officiating
Speaker 1: high jinks, and it had some really choppy play offensively. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not a pretty game, and you're right the Haysen was
Speaker 1: rough at times, but there were moments. I'm gonna remember
Speaker 1: this game because of the way it ended. It was
Speaker 1: close throughout, it was tense. I enjoyed it, and I
Speaker 1: think Christian McCaffrey is gonna be kicking himself. I think
Speaker 1: he's going home tonight pretty disappointed. He didn't make a
Speaker 1: play there. There's a lot of talk and it's very
Speaker 1: emblematic that the Panthers didn't run Cam Newton at the
Speaker 1: goal line, but they haven't been doing it for two
Speaker 1: games and that's partly killed him, like he's been a negative.
Speaker 1: He fumbled the ball. But Christian McCaffrey's got to make
Speaker 1: that play. If the coaches no, he's out on the
Speaker 1: edge versus Vernon Hargraves one on one and he's got
Speaker 1: to get a yard and a half. I think most
Speaker 1: running backs will look at that play and they think
Speaker 1: you gotta lower your shoulder and get the first down.
Speaker 1: They gotta win that game. Playing at home on Thursday
Speaker 1: Night football after losing their first game, They've got to
Speaker 1: win that game against the team that's not very good. Frankly.
Speaker 1: I mean, you go on the road now three of
Speaker 1: the next four weeks and they have a very spicy rematch.
Speaker 1: When we're in London, we get to see part two
Speaker 1: of this epic class. You know, we've done the four
Speaker 1: of us have done a lot of things together, spent
Speaker 1: a lot of hours, uh thousands of hours together over
Speaker 1: the past you know, seven or eight year has been
Speaker 1: in a lot of different places, some very exotic locations.
Speaker 1: Tonight's time spent together is at the top of my
Speaker 1: list because the game we watched was to me just
Speaker 1: a back and forth clash where I wanted to find
Speaker 1: one quarterback that actually wanted to seize this game and
Speaker 1: win it. And it felt for a long period of
Speaker 1: time that that's not the case. My one thing that
Speaker 1: lingers in my head if I'm a Panthers fan, for
Speaker 1: all to get away from the ins and outs of
Speaker 1: the of this thing, what is the experience with Cam
Speaker 1: Newton from now until the end are they ever going
Speaker 1: to actually be anything other than sort of the same
Speaker 1: team year after year. I struggle to buy into that.
Speaker 1: And on the Bucks side, from a scheduling angle, they
Speaker 1: don't play a home game now until November. Here is
Speaker 1: and that if I will be a challenge for the Bucks,
Speaker 1: so good thing they want to night. Here is camp
Speaker 1: stat line twenty five of fifty one for thirty three
Speaker 1: yards six and a half yards per attempt. He was
Speaker 1: sacked three times. And again here's the biggest stat the
Speaker 1: one that jumps out at you. Uh. Two rushes zero yards. Uh.
Speaker 1: The one design running play that I remember he fumbled
Speaker 1: on and lost the fumble. And when you if now
Speaker 1: we're two weeks in and he's not that's not a
Speaker 1: part of his game, and you're just wondering if this
Speaker 1: is now all part of the plan keep can help
Speaker 1: Cam healthy. But the problem with that is you're taking
Speaker 1: away what made him special because he's certainly not was
Speaker 1: a special passer, and as he reaches his thirty his
Speaker 1: age thirty season, things are not getting better on that front.
Speaker 1: He missed so many throws today and it really made
Speaker 1: the difference in this game. Well, I think he arguably
Speaker 1: the greatest dual threat quarterback of all times. So much
Speaker 1: of his value has been in running, like you said,
Speaker 1: but it feels like to me, this is a process
Speaker 1: that we're seeing and it it might cost people's jobs
Speaker 1: to be Asian, but you can't just expect him to
Speaker 1: be this guy right away. And if you listen to
Speaker 1: the broadcast last week, he's working on his mechanics again,
Speaker 1: something he's needed to do. But it just feels like
Speaker 1: we're in an in between phase and the results aren't there. Well,
Speaker 1: his arm is not right. I mean, he used to
Speaker 1: have maybe the strongest arm in the league, and tonight
Speaker 1: he was under throwing a number of throws. I defended him.
Speaker 1: I thought, at least a few throws last week it
Speaker 1: looked like the old Cam and I wasn't really that worried.
Speaker 1: But his arm tonight was a problem. I mean, anyone
Speaker 1: watched that game, he didn't look like Cam Newton. It
Speaker 1: was a little depressing. I'm just hoping it's something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can come out. There were a couple of throws
Speaker 1: were Aikman, you know, announced to everyone watching that that's
Speaker 1: a throw that shows you his shoulder is absolutely fine.
Speaker 1: But then you're watching other stuff happen where you're thinking,
Speaker 1: this is not even you know in Newton has always
Speaker 1: been a bit skittish. I think it was nice, not
Speaker 1: all the way. Then times the game comes down to
Speaker 1: Darryl Williams that couldn't block shack Barrett to say that
Speaker 1: was kind of the difference in the game, the negative
Speaker 1: p F score coming off Barrett. You bring into that game,
Speaker 1: Sha kill Barrett the biggest play of the game to me,
Speaker 1: and it showed off. Yes, the Barrett was a wrecking
Speaker 1: crew in this game, but also questions about Cam. Was
Speaker 1: fourth and one, Barrett comes free on a blitz right
Speaker 1: at Cam. It's right near midfield. Curtis Samuel gets behind
Speaker 1: the defender and Cam. Yes, it's a tough situation because
Speaker 1: the pass rushers coming right at him, but he needs
Speaker 1: to get it out and put some into it, and
Speaker 1: he couldn't do it. He threw he scattered it left
Speaker 1: and threw it short. And you just wonder if the
Speaker 1: Cam that went to Super Bowl fifty that throw ends
Speaker 1: up being right on the money. Panthers take the lead,
Speaker 1: and it's a whole different game we're talking about right now.
Speaker 1: I'm very nervous. I'm a Cam fan, I like, I like,
Speaker 1: I like his playing style what we've seen through the years.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that guy's coming back right now.
Speaker 1: Maybe he does, maybe he does it, but Panther fans
Speaker 1: have right to hit the panic button. I'm with you
Speaker 1: and then I The one thing about the Bucks that
Speaker 1: that concerns me a little bit is that in and Greg,
Speaker 1: you you put the swell when we were sitting out
Speaker 1: there watching it that even though there's a whole new
Speaker 1: coaching staff here, the DNA of pass Bucks teams seems
Speaker 1: to have lingered on and they and they feel offensively. Offensively,
Speaker 1: they feel very similar excepted would come into a game
Speaker 1: where O. J. Howard didn't get a single target tonight
Speaker 1: and I he's one of the premier weapons at the
Speaker 1: tight end position. And you know, we we joked it's like,
Speaker 1: did did Bruce arians ride back into the NFL? This
Speaker 1: tough decision, this career thing to ride Peyton Barber endlessly?
Speaker 1: Is this year? Was this year master plan? As the
Speaker 1: Bucks offensive mind, I like, they just seemed to me
Speaker 1: to have all the same issues and nothing new to them.
Speaker 1: They're less explosive than they were, far better. Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: is having a great season. I mean, they didn't have
Speaker 1: a two game stretch like this in the last four years.
Speaker 1: So to them, any win is beautiful. To get it
Speaker 1: on the road, and they're gonna have to improve as
Speaker 1: they go. Jamis had three or four unbelievably good tonight,
Speaker 1: but he also still had a bunch of clunkers. He
Speaker 1: had a pass that could have been intercepted if if
Speaker 1: Brisad Perriman catches that pass in the end zone, or
Speaker 1: there was another throw down the field that they dropped
Speaker 1: from him that was beautiful. You know, they went he
Speaker 1: was the better quarterback by far, but it wasn't like
Speaker 1: we've seen this. I mean, you're still getting the Winston though.
Speaker 1: That is is doing figure eights in the you know,
Speaker 1: eighteen yards behind the pocket and then just holding onto
Speaker 1: the ball and Brian Burns taking into the ground like
Speaker 1: he's looking. Well, you don't see him happy. He's he's
Speaker 1: a statue on on the sidelines. But he he had
Speaker 1: a really nice night. And last Thursday and other Jets
Speaker 1: defensive ex Jet uh, Mike Petton had a really good Thursday. Um,
Speaker 1: so there's some connection there. Um, we're at the point
Speaker 1: where both of those coaches are X Browns too, So
Speaker 1: it's very disturbing. All right, there you go. And unless
Speaker 1: that's said about the officiating in this game, the better.
Speaker 1: We don't have time to get into it anyway, but
Speaker 1: my god, I know they're doing their best. But a
Speaker 1: game that was already besides Greg's opinion on this was
Speaker 1: not was here. He liked it to. Like the way
Speaker 1: that game got bogged down at the end with a
Speaker 1: ridiculous spot and then going to the challenge uh checking
Speaker 1: where the ball should be spotted after the face mask.
Speaker 1: It just killed the momentum of what was already a
Speaker 1: shaky game and they got to be better. And there
Speaker 1: was that past interference call, which again and Mike Perre
Speaker 1: I think kind of nailed it that what are we
Speaker 1: doing here? It's it's a situation where are you don't
Speaker 1: call p I but there is a penalty on the play,
Speaker 1: but it's not built into the rule. Uh. We had
Speaker 1: rushing through the outlast Yeah, we had Brassy here, who
Speaker 1: is the someone know, an NFL employee, and she mentioned
Speaker 1: that during that elongated final minutes of the game that
Speaker 1: she could have given birth to three children. Seems I'm
Speaker 1: not sure factually that checks out. But that was her claim.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. That is our recap of
Speaker 1: Panthers and Bucks. And next time they play, yes, we
Speaker 1: will be in London live to see it all. Hopefully
Speaker 1: it's a better game. All right. We have all of
Speaker 1: the week two games to look forward to now in preview,
Speaker 1: so let's get to it now. Be around the NFL
Speaker 1: Podcast started wearing underwear a gain, i'lcome to another distance.
Speaker 1: I'll be around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas.
Speaker 1: I'm joining in the room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan?
Speaker 1: Video show live on NFL dot Com streaming uh every Thursday.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be the case. Very cool. I think
Speaker 1: it will migrate to YouTube at some point. Mark as well. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm I certainly am the one that knows the production schedule,
Speaker 1: elements and future plans for this show. Yeah, some some
Speaker 1: changes to how we're doing things on Thursday. Of course,
Speaker 1: we unveiled the draft last week. We're gonna have this
Speaker 1: live video show every Thursday. And also, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: genius idea from one of the top Shadowy League figures,
Speaker 1: Mark Brady. We're gonna start dropping the Thursday preview show early,
Speaker 1: so you have a chance to check out our previews
Speaker 1: earlier Thursday if you like, and then we'll tack on
Speaker 1: that Thursday night football to the same episode. You can
Speaker 1: come back to it if you want to see took
Speaker 1: us seven or eight years to come up with that
Speaker 1: expedited Yeah, if you're a fan, then you have to
Speaker 1: come back on Friday morning and listen to that topic
Speaker 1: that click again to that second clicking a lot of level.
Speaker 1: One thing I love about the video show is they
Speaker 1: drop in these these revised headshots that are a year
Speaker 1: old this point, but you get that West look with
Speaker 1: I can't tell because it's black and white sort of
Speaker 1: a flower freely typed shirt under a very expensive looking
Speaker 1: cardigaan or sweater arrangement. And there's another one today, so
Speaker 1: the guys on fire. It's just a free T shirt
Speaker 1: that was thrown into the crowded I'm talking more about
Speaker 1: this the video benefits, or just to like watch Dan's
Speaker 1: awkwardness when West and I are fighting, like that helps uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: It's like you feel more because I've always feeling fine.
Speaker 1: And then I look at Dad. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's something going wrong. Well, everything's okay. We went down
Speaker 1: to the lab and sorted it all out. Yes, this
Speaker 1: is our week to preview, and we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: all the games to be played on Sunday and Monday.
Speaker 1: And yes, there is just absolutely horrendous Jets news of course,
Speaker 1: revolving Sam Donald, which is a really a disgrace. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's be honest here that Jets fans have to deal
Speaker 1: with this stuff, um, and we'll get to that in time.
Speaker 1: But what we're gonna do here is go through all
Speaker 1: the games and as we did last week, we're gonna draft.
Speaker 1: I want to make one rule change, okay, because it
Speaker 1: never made sense that like they're bringing up this live
Speaker 1: on the show. Well, you can disagree with it, but
Speaker 1: I think it's a good idea. We don't vote in
Speaker 1: rule changes as a group. You just make them on
Speaker 1: your own, willy nilly. That's how this show I thought
Speaker 1: it would go over, Like this rule change. Um, there's
Speaker 1: no sense drafting these primetime games, as I was showering
Speaker 1: before coming here, So that's pull them out at the
Speaker 1: draft process and we'll just do them at the end.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's not my idea. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I had the same thought independently. It's a freebee and
Speaker 1: you're essentially getting out. It's worked at all. Four of
Speaker 1: us will carry the load on basic, saving West from
Speaker 1: making horrible mistakes again like you did on the draft
Speaker 1: last week. Oh, I think it turned out well for me.
Speaker 1: You've also sabotaged my plan to pick the Thirst or
Speaker 1: the the the Monday night game and Sunday night game first. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was yeah, that was calculated as well. Good idea.
Speaker 1: All right, now, let's get it going. Greg, you were
Speaker 1: the only one to drop a hero pick successfully yesterday.
Speaker 1: How about that last week? Right? Yeah, you were the
Speaker 1: only one to nail it. Had the Vikings. You have
Speaker 1: the Vikings who absolutely steamrolled Atlanta. Mark and I had
Speaker 1: our hearts broken by our local teams. Kind of a
Speaker 1: local team to Mark and his heart at least, Wes,
Speaker 1: you supported who the brocch But Greg, the last time
Speaker 1: I do that. Greg nailed it, and his reward as
Speaker 1: the only one to get a hero pick on week
Speaker 1: one is he has the number one overall pick. As
Speaker 1: we begin the preview process, dig in, Rosie. All right,
Speaker 1: My strategy here is simple. I'm going to treat myself
Speaker 1: with whatever game Tony Romo has looked it up. It's
Speaker 1: Chief's Raiders. It's a four oh five game. But it's
Speaker 1: very intriguing because this Raiders team is coming off what
Speaker 1: had to be one of the best nights this organization
Speaker 1: has had since the last time Jon Gruden was their coach.
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, everything feels a little possible
Speaker 1: for the like the only way for them to go
Speaker 1: right now is down. They achieved the platonic ideal of
Speaker 1: a of a John Gruden offense in that game. Their
Speaker 1: defense was flying around Fontes's Burfett played so well that
Speaker 1: Chris Wesling wrote nice things about him on NFL in
Speaker 1: a in a nice article on transformed players. And now
Speaker 1: they get the Chiefs in their building and and they
Speaker 1: come down kind of started already this week. Jonathan Abrams,
Speaker 1: their safety, uh is gonna miss some time, missed the
Speaker 1: entire season with the shoulder surgeon, and that takes some
Speaker 1: physicality away. And I do worry when I look at
Speaker 1: this Raiders defense. That energy is great, but where are
Speaker 1: the players, where the difference makers? Where's the pass rush?
Speaker 1: And I'm at the point with Patrick Mahomes that unless
Speaker 1: you have in absolutely elite defense or or a RAMS
Speaker 1: type offense, or in an organization like the Patriots. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming Patrick Mahomes just wins every week. But that's what's
Speaker 1: gonna take to beep. It's a safe way to go.
Speaker 1: And I mean, we talk about and it's because it
Speaker 1: happens that offenses don't really translate from year to year
Speaker 1: because maybe they change schematically, or maybe injuries or new
Speaker 1: players or players lost throw everything into a weird sup
Speaker 1: But watching the Chiefs last week, the big plays are
Speaker 1: still there. And you were playing the Jaguars and they
Speaker 1: the Jaguars did not have their act together in the secondary.
Speaker 1: They left guys wide open, Sammy Watkins wide open, Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey wide open. And if you're not gonna get to
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and he's got a prairie land and eight
Speaker 1: seconds to run around and scan the whole field, he's
Speaker 1: going to absolutely savage you. And my one concern for
Speaker 1: Oaklands whenever you come off a prime time emotion filled
Speaker 1: game where you kind of used up everything in the
Speaker 1: tank to blow up everyone's expectations of you and form
Speaker 1: a new narrative like they did, we're talking about them
Speaker 1: in much different tones. It's hard, I think, in the
Speaker 1: NFL to go out the next week and do it again,
Speaker 1: and against the Chiefs especially. It's a great savage Joakland
Speaker 1: in two games last year. It's a great test for
Speaker 1: the new theory, at least for the old zeuser that
Speaker 1: the Raiders are going to be frisky at home this year.
Speaker 1: I think they could be frisky because we saw a
Speaker 1: Casey does. This is a team, especially when the conditions
Speaker 1: are ideal as they are in early September. They're gonna
Speaker 1: travel well and they're gonna score points regardless of where
Speaker 1: they are at arrow Head. Their deadly on the road
Speaker 1: there deadly. So yeah, it does make a lot of
Speaker 1: sense that this has a come down to earth game
Speaker 1: for the Raiders and losing Jonathan Abram who was really
Speaker 1: a likable guy on hard knocks, so you hate to
Speaker 1: see a kid like that get struck down in Week one. Uh.
Speaker 1: I would imagine this is a pretty safe pick for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Here was well, I thought, before Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: went down and before Patrick Holmes suffered his own injury
Speaker 1: that he played through his first half was one of
Speaker 1: the best halfs of football he's ever played. It was.
Speaker 1: It was incredible, and nobody talked about it because of
Speaker 1: I think the injuries that happened after that game. But
Speaker 1: Mahomes was just on fire and unstoppable in this game.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I almost don't want to think about, like
Speaker 1: what if Patrick Mahomes is better? I mean, Patrick, I've
Speaker 1: never seen someone coming to the league like Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: We certainly haven't since we started this podcast. He's twenty
Speaker 1: four years old. I mean, we're getting to see the
Speaker 1: beginnings of what I think is going to be an
Speaker 1: all time great career. And you don't want to think, Okay,
Speaker 1: can he take it up and notch here, because all
Speaker 1: he has to do is stay where he's at and
Speaker 1: just kind of enjoy the ride. But it's possible, like
Speaker 1: especially in these early season games where Andy Reid has
Speaker 1: shown he's just an advantage. He's gonna scheme guys open.
Speaker 1: Is it so crazy to think that he would get better?
Speaker 1: That you get more comfortable. That's the one thing they
Speaker 1: said for months was that he was more comfortable than
Speaker 1: ever before. And I hope we don't get onto a
Speaker 1: trend where the Tony Romo game is a stinker every
Speaker 1: week because last week. I mean Nansen Romo did the
Speaker 1: best they could to talk about nothing for forty I
Speaker 1: don't think when I think the Raiders are legit, and
Speaker 1: I think at home it's a real and there's no
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, and I think this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: game in the fourth quarter. I'd certainly take the US
Speaker 1: to win, but I think this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: fun one. Anybody think Micole Hardman shows up and does
Speaker 1: scary things in this game? That feels possible. They look
Speaker 1: like they want to use him more of a decoy
Speaker 1: than anything last week. But things are different, I'd say
Speaker 1: in that offense, I'd say it's very much a possibility
Speaker 1: that he is a factor. All right, here we go
Speaker 1: in our and the second overall pick in the draft strategy.
Speaker 1: It's so important to strategize. Last week, some of us
Speaker 1: made the mistake of going too heavy on the early games,
Speaker 1: and then you're banged in a big spot because your
Speaker 1: job in the newsroom on Sundays to cover these games,
Speaker 1: and you can't keep an eye on three games. Two
Speaker 1: you can manage, right, it's feasible, and that's what we do.
Speaker 1: Three impossible. So Mark, you're in a tricky spot. Here
Speaker 1: because there's only three late games to choose from, and
Speaker 1: I strategically have to take one of them. I mean,
Speaker 1: my apathy is helping me so, but I could see
Speaker 1: you know, this is where you go, Ryan Leaf, no problems.
Speaker 1: Please cut that out. Every time we ask to cut
Speaker 1: out whatever my Mark says, we never hear it again.
Speaker 1: Let's keep that one. I like it. Um, so I
Speaker 1: am going to take the New Orleans Saints traveling to
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Memorial. Kyle seemed to play the Rams
Speaker 1: and a rematch of the NFC title game. Yes, everyone
Speaker 1: is sick of the past interference storyline, as are the Saints.
Speaker 1: The Saints, by the way, I have to give them
Speaker 1: credit while Mattnage and the Bears, specifically Matt Age cannot
Speaker 1: get over the double doing. You haven't heard the Saints,
Speaker 1: you know, complaining too much about the officials since this
Speaker 1: new season ramped up over the summer. Maybe I missed
Speaker 1: those stories. They processed it and moved on. And um,
Speaker 1: you know, that was a classic Week one game against
Speaker 1: the Texans where, let's face it, the Saints defense, Uh,
Speaker 1: they weren't able to shut the door there, and that
Speaker 1: was disheartening. I would imagine to allow Deshaun Watson to
Speaker 1: do what he did, to play seventy seven yards when
Speaker 1: the game should have been over. Uh, So they have
Speaker 1: some things to clean up. The offense looks just fine
Speaker 1: to me. And then you get the Rams, and the
Speaker 1: Rams are interesting. And I caught some heat on the
Speaker 1: Power ranking show I do with Matt money Smith and
Speaker 1: Cynthia Freeland. Check that out every Wednesday, shameless plug um
Speaker 1: for putting the Rams, keeping them at number two of
Speaker 1: my power rankings. And they said they looked, you know,
Speaker 1: Money was like, they look terrible in week two. All right.
Speaker 1: You could say that they weren't playing up to their
Speaker 1: highest level that we've seen in recent years. But I
Speaker 1: like a team going on the road against the quality
Speaker 1: opponent like the Panthers are, I believe, and getting a
Speaker 1: w and coming home. So I think the Rams are
Speaker 1: a good place. I liked what I saw from Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley in week one. West we didn't get a chance
Speaker 1: to talk about this Tuesday. Did you not feel the
Speaker 1: same way about Gurley? I didn't see any alarm bells.
Speaker 1: I wasn't impressed with how he started the game, but
Speaker 1: I was impressed with how he finished it. The biggest
Speaker 1: problems to me were the offensive line did not open
Speaker 1: very many holes. And you've got two news starters there
Speaker 1: that has something to watch. I don't think they played
Speaker 1: that well Um and Malcolm Brown looking just as good
Speaker 1: as Todd Gurley, but they did in the end. I
Speaker 1: mean they ran for a hundred and six or six yards.
Speaker 1: He had sixty four, I believe in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: and very similar to how they opened the season last
Speaker 1: year against the Raiders. They their offense didn't show up
Speaker 1: for the first half. It looked like they're offense in
Speaker 1: the second half. Golf had to be patient. He didn't,
Speaker 1: you know. He said that game tested him, that he
Speaker 1: had to kept dumping the ball off instead of going
Speaker 1: for the players that they wanted. He thought it was
Speaker 1: a mature game. He didn't play that well. He didn't
Speaker 1: make great decisions. But they're crazy for getting on you
Speaker 1: for that. You go win in Carolina. Gave me a break,
Speaker 1: I think also, I mean a weekend. I'm fine with
Speaker 1: the Rams being where they are in your rankings. They're
Speaker 1: crazy about the Cowboys and that that could change that.
Speaker 1: The Rams play the way that my If you can
Speaker 1: put pressure on Golf, I think you're dealing with a
Speaker 1: different type of quarterback and the offensive to the two
Speaker 1: new guys on the line, I thought they were shaky
Speaker 1: early on, and and the Panthers put pressure on him
Speaker 1: and they got a little bit better as the game
Speaker 1: went along. Malcolm Brown and me West reminds me of
Speaker 1: like the second best running back on like a nineteen
Speaker 1: eighties pounded, ground and pound type football team. He's just
Speaker 1: a bigger dude, and I kind of like them using
Speaker 1: him more than they ever have before, obviously, And it's
Speaker 1: working so far. And I think we'll see Darrell Henderson
Speaker 1: the rookie at some point. The Saints do get David
Speaker 1: on your Mata back from suspension. Do you think they
Speaker 1: need because they are in at that position their run defense,
Speaker 1: and if you're gonna give up yards to Chub and
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, I think you're gonna have trouble with Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley that their defense is a position, or at least
Speaker 1: a side of the ball that they have to be
Speaker 1: a little worried that the secondary and maybe the defensive
Speaker 1: tackles aren't as good as they worry. Let's get one
Speaker 1: more touchdown for Taysom Hill this week. We've got seven
Speaker 1: on the season. We've got six to go for the
Speaker 1: sandwich is heading my way. You predicted how many? Eight, seven,
Speaker 1: six more to go. He's off to a good start,
Speaker 1: and I believe it's gonna happen. It is the most
Speaker 1: secure I've ever felt about any Sandwich bet ever, because
Speaker 1: most of the ones that I give you involved like
Speaker 1: national security threats, major earth disaster. So that's true. I
Speaker 1: did he touch the ball enough for this to be sustainable? Oh,
Speaker 1: He's gonna touch it more and more. I think they
Speaker 1: have to put him on the field more. I'm not
Speaker 1: at quarterback, thank you, Ricky. Alright, let's move on west
Speaker 1: with the number three overall pick selects. I am taking
Speaker 1: the other for o' clock. It's it's a smart pick.
Speaker 1: Bears at Broncos. So it's uh Vic Fongio going against
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trobiskie, whom he went against in practice every day
Speaker 1: last year, and I think probably has a few tricks
Speaker 1: up as sleeve and knows that quarterback's weakness is better
Speaker 1: than any defensive coordinator in the league. I learned my
Speaker 1: lesson on the Broncos in Week one, so I don't
Speaker 1: want to go like both feet first on my pulling
Speaker 1: out already after one game. I'm just saying, I think
Speaker 1: the Broncos war months. I think the Broncos will win
Speaker 1: this game. But I cannot be. I cannot be as
Speaker 1: as I was before after that opening week let down?
Speaker 1: Can I can I throw something out there was? And
Speaker 1: I want to And I say this with all due
Speaker 1: respect because you know I respect you as a football mind.
Speaker 1: I mean, I find it. I find your analysis to
Speaker 1: be brilliant, triple that I wish you were to um.
Speaker 1: But there's the paradox we have here with your insistence
Speaker 1: that Eli Manning needs to go away and he shouldn't
Speaker 1: be a starting quarterback. Joe Flacco was basically Eli Manning
Speaker 1: at the stage. He is a guy that some years
Speaker 1: back was the guy that people weren't quite sold on.
Speaker 1: Became a Super Bowl hero. Eli did it twice, of course,
Speaker 1: but for years now the writing has been on the
Speaker 1: wall that maybe this guy is in a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1: You got all in on Joe Flacco in the summer
Speaker 1: of two thousand nineteen. You sold on Eli years ago.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're the same guy basically at this
Speaker 1: point in their careers. Well, if Flacco plays like he
Speaker 1: did in Week one. Then I have no leg to
Speaker 1: stand on. I have in my notes written three or
Speaker 1: four games last year, early in the season, Flacco looks
Speaker 1: more athletic than ever, looks springier than ever. So what
Speaker 1: happened then? I don't know? It was ghack. He was
Speaker 1: getting away from pressure early last season, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's that guy anymore. So it's up to
Speaker 1: me to adjust my plans. And if I have to
Speaker 1: back off a flock of the Flacco this year, I
Speaker 1: will understand if you guys put me in the penalty box,
Speaker 1: make me do some kind of you. This is a
Speaker 1: matchup between guys you've quickly lost, uh you know, touch
Speaker 1: with here because you gave Robisky half life is too short.
Speaker 1: With a bad quarter back way through a Week one,
Speaker 1: the Bears the flop up. I will admit that in
Speaker 1: Week one, I'm thinking why why am I an idiot?
Speaker 1: And I go to bat for Flacco and I never
Speaker 1: I never really say, hey, Deshaun Watson is special, Like
Speaker 1: why can't I just enjoy because we've seen the veteran
Speaker 1: rebirth and I think maybe that's sort of what you
Speaker 1: were clinging to on a team with a good defense
Speaker 1: and a little bit more around them. You gotta win.
Speaker 1: You gotta win this week. If the Broncos do, and
Speaker 1: then they're fine one one with a this is like
Speaker 1: but I went off that rock. Yeah, this is game.
Speaker 1: If this game is ugly and close in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of Bears fans sweating. I
Speaker 1: do think like there's some reason to believe that their
Speaker 1: defense could be even better, Like if Rokuwan Smith is
Speaker 1: better and Leonard Floyd plays, I mean, it's still the
Speaker 1: best defense in the league. So that's a tough What
Speaker 1: I see, though, is that classic team where the defense
Speaker 1: is gonna have to hold every one to thirteen points
Speaker 1: a week for a chance to win, and there's a
Speaker 1: total canyon between both sides of the ball in the
Speaker 1: locker room. I mean, there are whispers this week that
Speaker 1: the Bears are already concerned about Rabinsky long term, and
Speaker 1: they put him out there for a press conference. And
Speaker 1: I know this is a bit low hanging fruit, but
Speaker 1: it's it's one of the more obnoxious things I've seen
Speaker 1: in the NFL, where Rabinsky is wheeled out in front
Speaker 1: of the media and announces that he's not allowed to
Speaker 1: talk about the game that just happened, a disastrous game
Speaker 1: against the your rival, the longest rival in the NFL,
Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL, the one celebration game
Speaker 1: the year, and you're blending, you're dropping it, and we
Speaker 1: owe them out like a child like Paul Well he was,
Speaker 1: you know what, your third year quarterback being treated like?
Speaker 1: How many more excuses will be makeing of the lamb
Speaker 1: had alector in the hand. He was not in the
Speaker 1: middle wiring around the head in order does he eat
Speaker 1: human beings? Von Miller show up in this game. That
Speaker 1: was a dreadful performance by your defense. You're the leader
Speaker 1: of that defense. That's why I call you out specifically.
Speaker 1: And West the one thing that the Brons might have,
Speaker 1: as you pointed out, you never want to go into
Speaker 1: empower field. No, wait, isn't it dignity? Oh that's that's
Speaker 1: the charges high at mile High. Yes, I just call
Speaker 1: it empower field. I just call it the empower It's
Speaker 1: a great stadium, all right, with the fourth overall pick. Alright,
Speaker 1: remember your locks. By the way, I don't forget to
Speaker 1: make a lock of ye. What I find amazing here
Speaker 1: is that you guys act like you I'm banged because
Speaker 1: I have literally no work to do in the late
Speaker 1: slot of the games. You've taken all the games. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna use that time to wander around Culver City, get
Speaker 1: a nice walk in the sun. Your bangs in the
Speaker 1: early games. Remember the guy from the airplane that was
Speaker 1: sweating like profusely, that's you during the water Literally, I you.
Speaker 1: You have to know that if I'm covering three or
Speaker 1: four games, two of them will be utter mail and jobs.
Speaker 1: Think you know, I mean, you've got you got, you
Speaker 1: give me a bang. You think I'm gonna sit there
Speaker 1: and try to meticulously, like a like a robot, cover
Speaker 1: four games and everything happy at the same time, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get stuck in a trade outspit. Anyways, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is working beautifully. This is a thing where we
Speaker 1: had the most productive season of the four of you
Speaker 1: were drafting last. And I now got the back end.
Speaker 1: I get too, and I'm going Jacksonville Houston, And of
Speaker 1: course I am, because we're talking Gardner Minshew, and you
Speaker 1: wanted because these things that you get. You get excited
Speaker 1: about this stuff, alright, do early on your especially when
Speaker 1: the team that you've kind of clung to your entire
Speaker 1: life gets whacked in week one. You got it. When
Speaker 1: you start watching game pass, get excited about us something else.
Speaker 1: Otherwise you just go insane. So I gotta say I
Speaker 1: got at first, I got excited about Gardner Minshew the person,
Speaker 1: and then the Houston game happened. I thought that Houston
Speaker 1: is automatically exciting to go into New Orleans and play
Speaker 1: the way they did. Yes, it was a loss, but
Speaker 1: you got to look at them as a playoff type
Speaker 1: team that can play in adversity. And I love the
Speaker 1: whole Bill O'Brien, He'll turn everything about the team in Houston.
Speaker 1: I like. And they're playing Gardner Minshew. And when I
Speaker 1: went and watched the tape, it wasn't like, Oh, Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 1: This was this total fluke job where this guy cannot
Speaker 1: throw the ball and they're scheming around him and running
Speaker 1: the ball forty five times. He can throw, he can
Speaker 1: throw with precision, and I thought some of the work
Speaker 1: that he did with DJ Chark, a big six ft
Speaker 1: four receiver. He's got a deep ball, he can throw
Speaker 1: to the he can throw to the outside, the inside,
Speaker 1: over the middle, down the stretch. I love him. We're
Speaker 1: showing a ton of highlights of Deshaun Watson. We're showing
Speaker 1: the wrong quarterback. We gotta rename that chlorine tank the
Speaker 1: Chark tank. That's brilliant. By the way, I want to
Speaker 1: give Mark credit that I've been a little bit exhausted
Speaker 1: by the Minshew train this week, but Minshu mania. But
Speaker 1: Mark was the first one in the corner. And now
Speaker 1: you've seen the football Twitter all get all jacked up
Speaker 1: about Minshew in the past two or three days and
Speaker 1: everybody's having their fun and being snarky and dropping their
Speaker 1: comedy bits. Mark was there first. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I was there first because in the business we work
Speaker 1: and now people jump on this stuff like within one sex.
Speaker 1: But but I will. I put together a two minute,
Speaker 1: uh highlight video that took me like three hours to
Speaker 1: do on I Movie and Erica retweeted at least got
Speaker 1: run one retweet made that in my house. Yes, he
Speaker 1: put I Movie music under it. It was like it
Speaker 1: was the funniest thing. We clearly didn't want the front
Speaker 1: and center on my Twitter feed, but let's amplify that
Speaker 1: right now. On the flip side, I think that the
Speaker 1: thing that I like about this, and it's in Houston.
Speaker 1: So Jacksonville, this is a tall order. But their defense
Speaker 1: I thought was embarrassed last week. And you got Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey walking around acting like he runs the entire a
Speaker 1: f C and he was out of place against the
Speaker 1: Chiefs more than once. That whole secondary was embarrassed. Where
Speaker 1: was Josh Allen? How about this game where you have
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson playing behind even with Larry Larry Mattunzel a
Speaker 1: line that is a major, major liability. I like the
Speaker 1: idea of the pass rush and Jacksonville's angry secondary having
Speaker 1: a better game in this one? Are you locking it up? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: you were getting so fired up. Well, I what I
Speaker 1: want to see. I want to see what happens with
Speaker 1: this offense one more week and I'll start locking them up.
Speaker 1: If they show up the way they did last time
Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshew, I'll start locking him. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: he kind of a folk hero going back to his
Speaker 1: college and he's paired with Mike Leach and there's I mean,
Speaker 1: there is a lot to like. Like if you can't
Speaker 1: enjoy it, it it reminds me a little bit of Kyle
Speaker 1: Orton in in like Internet. One point, Oh was a
Speaker 1: absolute sensation for about five six weeks. Dead Spin was
Speaker 1: a big part of that. But just matchup wise, I'm
Speaker 1: surprised that the Texans are such heavy favorites in this game.
Speaker 1: There's no respect for Minshew off of that performance, which
Speaker 1: I get, But the defense should be better. I'm not
Speaker 1: like that worried about their defense, and if you look
Speaker 1: at the Texans secondary and the Texans defense in general,
Speaker 1: it's not good. I mean, Bill O'Brien did what a
Speaker 1: lot of coaches did on two would want to do
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday after a game where one of their
Speaker 1: highly paid players made a big mistake. He just cut
Speaker 1: Aaron Colvin, who was making eight million dollars this year.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's even a bad move. I'm
Speaker 1: saying the process to get to the point where you're
Speaker 1: cutting him after one game, after one game that it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you spend the entire offseason prepping this guy to be
Speaker 1: your starter. You gave him every single snap in the
Speaker 1: off season as your nickelback started. You gave him fifty
Speaker 1: five stuff, and then suddenly because he gave up a
Speaker 1: plate a ted gain on that last drive, him that
Speaker 1: he that he cuts him. He sailed the coach who
Speaker 1: had faith in him, and he was punished for it.
Speaker 1: This is the NFL. Greg, He was one of the
Speaker 1: biggest free agents. He was one of the biggest bus
Speaker 1: in the league last year he was I get it.
Speaker 1: Then they make the move in the off season. Don't
Speaker 1: have him start and play? What what? One game just
Speaker 1: changed everything? You feel loyalty, decisive. This is how Bob
Speaker 1: is going to operate in and again it's why I
Speaker 1: kind of like him. He just does things that get,
Speaker 1: you know, reaction. They hang on amplifying original. I know
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. Can't be responsible for having in
Speaker 1: your picks column, so you're amplifying. He literally linked to
Speaker 1: it in the column that you filed. That the video
Speaker 1: below good content. You know. I was like literally on
Speaker 1: my bed in a quiet house, like going through hundreds
Speaker 1: of videos, cutting them and then splice. Erica knows how
Speaker 1: a work. She's an editing professional. It's not easy. It's
Speaker 1: not Are you gonna give me like more credit now
Speaker 1: or oh it put me in. I saw the pain
Speaker 1: points that you go through from a production angle. It's
Speaker 1: it's steep, all right. As you know, Mark, we draft
Speaker 1: a snake style, so you get the next pick as well,
Speaker 1: number five. Overall, I might throw you for a little
Speaker 1: bit of a loop here, but I like to and Greg,
Speaker 1: I think you put this out there is something that
Speaker 1: you subscribed to. I like to see a team that
Speaker 1: I didn't watch live the previous week or at all,
Speaker 1: and for me, that's the Buffalo Bills. And I like
Speaker 1: this little bizarre thing that has only happened eight times
Speaker 1: in NFL history when a team plays in away game
Speaker 1: in the same stadium two weeks in a row. The
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills went into MetLife last week and overcame a
Speaker 1: sixteen nothing deficit to cut the Jets head off and
Speaker 1: go one. And oh now they're going right back into
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium to do the same thing to the New
Speaker 1: York Giants. We'll see. I think the Giants are a
Speaker 1: bit of a mess, Eli Manning. Greg, you pointed this
Speaker 1: out in your picks column. NFL research through this out.
Speaker 1: There has twenty more turnovers than any other quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league's and he looked no better to me last week.
Speaker 1: He is a liability. There was one intentional grounding call
Speaker 1: on him where all you had to do was get
Speaker 1: the ball out of bounds and he's running around like
Speaker 1: a child with the football in his hands and gets
Speaker 1: thrown to the ground. Absurd. I think the Giants are
Speaker 1: probably one of the easier teams to game plan in
Speaker 1: the entire league, because if you take out Sequon Barkley
Speaker 1: and you take out Evan green ingram or at least
Speaker 1: reduce them down to say, two big plays each in
Speaker 1: the game, they really don't have much else to throw
Speaker 1: at you, especially with Manning in there. That said, I
Speaker 1: am going to do the absurd thing because O and
Speaker 1: two does not concerned me locks wise, because I've come
Speaker 1: back from it before. I am locking up the New
Speaker 1: York Giants at home. It's going to be a tight game,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to witness this go down at home
Speaker 1: at MetLife. The Giants are gonna go one and one.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be an annoying team because we're gonna want
Speaker 1: to write them off and we're gonna want to love
Speaker 1: the Bills and their defense and ash Allen maybe having
Speaker 1: only three turnovers in this game versus four. But the
Speaker 1: g met are gonna take care of business at home
Speaker 1: and be that kind of frisky, tedious seven and nine
Speaker 1: team that we can't write off until about Christmas. I
Speaker 1: think the Giants are facing a defense that is every
Speaker 1: bit as good as the one they faced last week.
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills with Ed Oliver had a big impact
Speaker 1: in his first game. Shack Lawson looks improved, Tremaine Evmans,
Speaker 1: their second year linebacker, looks better. And I think the
Speaker 1: Bills on defense, it's just absolutely shut the Jets down there,
Speaker 1: just shut them down. They're good everywhere. They're able to
Speaker 1: rotate guys in playing twenty five snaps, so that's how
Speaker 1: you win. In Week one especially, they played fifteen or
Speaker 1: sixteen guys twenty five snaps. Plus they're so deep. The
Speaker 1: secondaries great. I think this can be a top I'm
Speaker 1: expecting it to be a top five defense and a
Speaker 1: top five defense against the Giants. This isn't a road game.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just staying in the same locker room
Speaker 1: as they were last week. They are the team of
Speaker 1: New York Buffalo Owens New York after this week. Has
Speaker 1: anyone ever beat the one two straight games on in
Speaker 1: the same stadium, Well, I would say the only other
Speaker 1: time this this phenomena of plane twice in the same
Speaker 1: It's always been a Jets giant scenario. Yes, it happened recently.
Speaker 1: It might happen last year. I like to put it
Speaker 1: out there is a rarity. But you've done that into
Speaker 1: the fire. That surprised by the meaning you find in that. Um,
Speaker 1: well it's you know it. It matters. It's interesting. Before
Speaker 1: Sam Donald was undone by makeout point or however this
Speaker 1: happened with him. Uh, he was undone by a Bill's
Speaker 1: defense that not known for heavy blitzing Sean McDermott. But
Speaker 1: against the Jets, he dialed up the blitz and and
Speaker 1: Donald was never comfortable. It was they were. They got
Speaker 1: to him repeatedly. They knocked down at least five passes
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. I don't think Eli Manning
Speaker 1: is gonna handle it very well either. I think this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a low scoring game. Josh Allen, for
Speaker 1: the nice throws he made down the stretch to beat
Speaker 1: the Jets, could easily thrown five interceptions last week. I
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on this guy. Um yet. Um. He
Speaker 1: could prove me wrong, but we'll see. But I think
Speaker 1: this defense is gonna shut down the Giants. I think
Speaker 1: we're looking at another similar type game to what we
Speaker 1: saw last week at MetLife Stadium. Something in the realm
Speaker 1: of thirteen to seven, fourteen ten. You know sixteen thirteen.
Speaker 1: We will not see a shootout on Sunday here. I agree.
Speaker 1: I mean, Ingram and Barkley are nothing to mess with
Speaker 1: a man. Ingram when they were on a screen for him,
Speaker 1: he looks like a running back. I mean he he
Speaker 1: can have. He can have a monster season for for
Speaker 1: his fantasy owners. And that's enough if you can break
Speaker 1: a couple of big plays off. The Bill's offense doesn't
Speaker 1: look like it's doing too much. Al right, West, you're
Speaker 1: up number six pick. I am going don't take my pick.
Speaker 1: You know I can't stay away from the Washington Redskins.
Speaker 1: This rookie class they have with Terry McLaurin should have
Speaker 1: had over two hundred yards, but case Keenum over threw
Speaker 1: him on a seventy three yard t d in the
Speaker 1: second half. And let's be real about why you're picking this.
Speaker 1: He's going over Terence Trent Darby for for high point
Speaker 1: balls on the sideline back shoulder throws. Uh, you got cool.
Speaker 1: Holk them their fifth round linebacker Jimmy Moreland their seventh
Speaker 1: round slot receiver who was a ball hawking preseason and
Speaker 1: played last week. Montest Sweat. All these rookies for the Redskins,
Speaker 1: I mean that this isn't as bad of a team
Speaker 1: as you thought. And then the Dallas Cowboys, let's get
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl favorites, the Dallas cowstl Let's you know,
Speaker 1: I just want to see more of Kellen Moore. See
Speaker 1: what this guy is doing. This is not your father's
Speaker 1: boring Scott Linahan offense. They are explosive, dynamic, uh tricky.
Speaker 1: They're using lots of different sets and shifts totally different
Speaker 1: than what we saw. Just because more played under Lenahan
Speaker 1: for seven years in Dallas and Detroit. That's not his
Speaker 1: only coaching influence this creativity. It goes back to Chris
Speaker 1: Peterson at Boise State, where they're using all the motions
Speaker 1: and shifts and you saw it in Week one, and
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's gonna get that tough of an
Speaker 1: opponent with the Redskins. I mean there without Jonathan Allen,
Speaker 1: who's the best defensive player I thought up their front
Speaker 1: seven might end up being a little frisky this year.
Speaker 1: But their rookie Mantes Sweat made no impact in the preseason,
Speaker 1: made no impact in Week one. It is a good
Speaker 1: rookie class on balance, but I don't really see much
Speaker 1: that's gonna stop him, and people need to give Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott a little more credit. I mean, yes, Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: did a great job, but four or five of those throws,
Speaker 1: we're just on point, beautiful throws that Dak Prescott was
Speaker 1: not too consistent making last season. It was interesting hearing
Speaker 1: Aikman say that that Prescott insists that all this started
Speaker 1: to click late last season, that he just started finally
Speaker 1: to see the field a lot better and it's carried
Speaker 1: over to this year. If you look at his numbers
Speaker 1: from December last year, they're pretty good. I would also,
Speaker 1: if you were on Instagram, hit up West's Instagram story
Speaker 1: because you took a photo of the notes you took
Speaker 1: from this game last week, the Cowboys game, and there
Speaker 1: was some amazing stuff. It was. It was cool to
Speaker 1: walk because like you kind of sit it is like
Speaker 1: your love for the Cowboys coming out. And you pointed
Speaker 1: out one guy, I think Randall Cobb, who I never
Speaker 1: bought into this signing because it seemed like a very
Speaker 1: Cowboys thing to do. It seemed like a very NFL
Speaker 1: network thing that they would talk about every day for
Speaker 1: like two d days in a row, Randall Cobb on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and I thought, well, we've we're done with
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb. Please. He looked awesome last week and they
Speaker 1: used him the right way. And this is the one
Speaker 1: year where the offense and the defense are surging at
Speaker 1: the same time. I don't know if I credit the
Speaker 1: Cowboys for seeing what they have in Kellen Moore or
Speaker 1: keeping Scott Linahan for so long and discredit them. Why
Speaker 1: were you hanging onto an Ancienthan wasn't ready yet. Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore was still trying to play. I thought the Randall
Speaker 1: Cob America's game or football life was a little much.
Speaker 1: But you know, they were using him like Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 1: did you sweep? Fake sweep? Did you mention Darius Guys?
Speaker 1: He is out indefinitely, um torn meniscus. Rap sheet reported
Speaker 1: he's gonna be out several weeks. He did not run
Speaker 1: well eighteen yards on ten carries against the Eagles last week.
Speaker 1: So Adrian Peterson, who you know, his coach maybe doesn't
Speaker 1: want him to the team. Well he's stille now he
Speaker 1: needs him. So now he's the start of the Jordan
Speaker 1: Reid's still dealing with a concussion. May not play a
Speaker 1: team one of their young players that they want to
Speaker 1: be developing, not not none of them. The rookie classes
Speaker 1: looks good, but you'd love to see Geist and Jonathan
Speaker 1: Allen and Dwayne Haskins. Meanwhile, Case Gadom, he's out there.
Speaker 1: He's a professional quarterback. It's a reminder you're a journeyman.
Speaker 1: It's all about scheme fit. He's a lot like Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: He looks, he looks fine. Case Gadom is carving out
Speaker 1: a pretty great career considering where he came from. Really
Speaker 1: nice career. He's gonna set himself up for life. And
Speaker 1: he's had some moments. How many quarterbacks have entered the
Speaker 1: league that since he entered that are as talented or
Speaker 1: more that are gonna have about a hundred less starts
Speaker 1: than Case relative to most people. But like, he's the
Speaker 1: kind of guy that bounces when you look like you
Speaker 1: work with him, and then like a year and a
Speaker 1: half into working with him, he's flushed out of the
Speaker 1: company and he winds up somewhere else across town and
Speaker 1: you think, oh, he'll be there for a good long time,
Speaker 1: and he's flushed out a year and a half later.
Speaker 1: It's like he never lasts. He gets people fired, the
Speaker 1: team cave in, and then he gets another starting job
Speaker 1: or a backup jobs, maxing out his his You know, individual,
Speaker 1: we've done this long enough. By the way, this podcast
Speaker 1: now where I could state by memory that once upon
Speaker 1: a time, Case Keenum was nobody that West got behind
Speaker 1: during a nice little run he had with the Texan
Speaker 1: I'm talking years ago. That's your case, Keenum flag flog. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the keys Genum flag flew. And then I believe you
Speaker 1: got out after a while when he couldn't handle the blitz. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The his Rams tenure under Jeff Fisher was kind of
Speaker 1: the low point. And then of course the rise of
Speaker 1: the Vikings. The Broncos a little shaky last year. He's
Speaker 1: good for him. He's had a nice NFL career. If
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were paying attention to Jay Gruden's press conference,
Speaker 1: I guess they'll know that Adrian Peterson will be in
Speaker 1: the I formation fifty five times in this game. Um,
Speaker 1: I got a total steel here at seven overall Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings at the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Kiss a
Speaker 1: good one. Thank you feel your jealousy. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I would have taken. Yes, that's the best feeling. That's
Speaker 1: the best guy and draft and again they're they're one consideration.
Speaker 1: Where the announcers in that game. I'll just leave it
Speaker 1: at that. I today am i announcers? I said, do
Speaker 1: I want to spend three hours with this gentleman? But
Speaker 1: your name on it? Come on, who is it? What's
Speaker 1: the announcer? I want to spend three hours with Chris
Speaker 1: Meyers to see the problem? Gregs you you should not
Speaker 1: be giving away that secret to us, because now I
Speaker 1: will be thinking about that when I go, because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get stuck with a certain announcing team or two
Speaker 1: that has driven me nearly insane on a couple of
Speaker 1: the other way to do it. If you're watching, it's
Speaker 1: up there, it's out there, it's through, it's all right,
Speaker 1: it's the best field goal call in the game. Um,
Speaker 1: when you're watching two games, one of them for me,
Speaker 1: always has the volume and then the other one is
Speaker 1: a little bit more subdued volume wise, So that might
Speaker 1: be what ends up happening here with and I have
Speaker 1: a third and fourth one. What do you think the
Speaker 1: volume on those are gonna be. I have no idea
Speaker 1: what's happening for you for these early games. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think this is a great game with UM chock
Speaker 1: full of storylines to track here because I love the Vikings.
Speaker 1: I absolutely think that they are going to be hanging
Speaker 1: around that they are. They are a final four. Nobody
Speaker 1: uses final four in football. I'm the only one that
Speaker 1: does it. I got what's wrong with the final four?
Speaker 1: I mean, heavis, but it gives you what you need. Oh,
Speaker 1: one of the last four teams standing out of thirty
Speaker 1: two failed it. I went bank on the Dean screen
Speaker 1: phenomenon with this one. I think they can play in
Speaker 1: the NFC title game. I think they have that type
Speaker 1: of ability. I think they can make a run like
Speaker 1: their balance UM and this will be a good test because, yes,
Speaker 1: the one thing we still don't really know about UM
Speaker 1: with the Vikings their offensive line. Will it hold up?
Speaker 1: It did really well against the Falcons and what was
Speaker 1: a complete effort in Week one, But now we got
Speaker 1: the Packers who really really thrived as we all know,
Speaker 1: defensively in the Thursday night opener. Uh. And what makes
Speaker 1: this so interesting for me is the Packers who were
Speaker 1: in general always kind of an interesting team. Um with
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers out front, you see if their defense can
Speaker 1: back it up again with another big effort against the
Speaker 1: good Vikings offense, and then you get to see, all right,
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, alright, Aaron Rodgers will give you a bit
Speaker 1: of a mulligan in week one. You gotta win with
Speaker 1: your defense and everyone it's you know, the narrative has
Speaker 1: taken hold across the football agna centy that Week one
Speaker 1: is very tough for offenses because of the lack of reps. Well,
Speaker 1: no more excuses you have. You have a full week
Speaker 1: one game, you had another full week of practices. I
Speaker 1: want to see something from the Packers on offense, and uh,
Speaker 1: the Vikings present a challenge that he certainly presented a
Speaker 1: challenge to the Falcons last week. I just think this
Speaker 1: is a great game. It's a tough one to pick
Speaker 1: because I don't know who the Packers are yet. I
Speaker 1: think I know who the Vikings are. I do not
Speaker 1: know who the Packers are. I would put the Packers
Speaker 1: at number thirty two in my confidence rankings for figuring
Speaker 1: out who they are. I who knows if their offense
Speaker 1: played so bad because the Bears defense was as physically
Speaker 1: imposing as any defense I saw in Week one, or
Speaker 1: if they're deep, if the Packers defense played great because
Speaker 1: it was Mitch Robinsky in over his head and making
Speaker 1: bad throws. I just don't know who this team is.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I know who the Vikings are either.
Speaker 1: After a game where they throw ten passes, you know,
Speaker 1: like that was such a strange game that they got
Speaker 1: ahead early, they didn't have to do much offensively. The
Speaker 1: players look great. I mean, Xavier Rhodes looks great. Uh,
Speaker 1: Anthony Harris. Their safety looks great. And I know I'm big,
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a big believer in this offense. But
Speaker 1: this is a much tougher matchup defensively this week. I
Speaker 1: know this is essentially the team of I don't know
Speaker 1: what we call it, hands, hands. This is the team
Speaker 1: of hands right now. I noticed on on the power
Speaker 1: rankings this week, I mean they zoomed up to I mean, Dan,
Speaker 1: that's a very a very um you know you're using
Speaker 1: science behind the rank it's a real feel. Dan is
Speaker 1: on multiple hits, he's on GMFB, he's on NFL Network,
Speaker 1: and he's talking Vikings everywhere he goes. Now we've got
Speaker 1: to be very cooinet up in the clearing. We have
Speaker 1: the incredibly real Nfilm Networks hands. Oh it's all right,
Speaker 1: well done. Where did you find that, I'm loan? Was
Speaker 1: that in my bedroom last night? Yeah? I got it
Speaker 1: three am. That was the three minutes before the show
Speaker 1: for about four straight years. Um, yes, yeah, that's good,
Speaker 1: that's good. I do like the Vikings a lot. And uh,
Speaker 1: as I said, great game, I'm excited. What do you think, Mark?
Speaker 1: Do you feel because I know I'm got you out
Speaker 1: of the Packers right now? Oh. What I really liked
Speaker 1: about the Packers was the fact that my issue with
Speaker 1: them was that it was always so offensive heavy, and
Speaker 1: the defense would let them down in big spots year
Speaker 1: after year, and then we'd spend the whole off season,
Speaker 1: the whole season getting back to that same January game.
Speaker 1: I think Mike Petton and the Packers are a very
Speaker 1: good marriage right now. He's got the right players to
Speaker 1: make it work. I don't think they're gonna play a
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears offense every week. I think we're gonna find
Speaker 1: out that offense has some issues. And what we saw
Speaker 1: from Minnesota is that's what they want. I don't know
Speaker 1: what they are, but that's what they want to be.
Speaker 1: But every week the guard play for the Packers was awful.
Speaker 1: David Back had a terrible game battle. Yeah, But Brian Bulaga,
Speaker 1: who is a key to this thing, who really hasn't
Speaker 1: helped them that much the last couple of years, had
Speaker 1: a great week one, and I think that's a really
Speaker 1: good sign, uh for the Green Bay Packers. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like him at home. And if the Packers offense
Speaker 1: stays this way for a month, it's gonna get loud there.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not what people are going to
Speaker 1: accept on West. Does this qualify as a grandmassance? Jimmy
Speaker 1: Graham nineteen fifty three catches, seven and thirty eight yards,
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns. That's pedestrian for a starting tight end. This
Speaker 1: this game, it reminds me of alright, ten tds, I'll
Speaker 1: give it to you ten. Yeah. I didn't he went
Speaker 1: with this fifty and seven something. I was like, that's
Speaker 1: I imagined touchdowns long with your final four, I'm just
Speaker 1: imagining a grandmother When you say that, I don't we
Speaker 1: need to work works be a little bit worried about
Speaker 1: the leaping ability that used to be dynamic and explosive
Speaker 1: and now is like Larry Bird level. He did box
Speaker 1: out like a basketball player on that touchdown one one
Speaker 1: Grammy Jimmy Graham touched on might get it done. This
Speaker 1: is like the old Chris Burham and NFC Norris right now,
Speaker 1: all four teams, the divisions are are, the defenses are
Speaker 1: better than there. Let's pick this game. I'm taking the Packers,
Speaker 1: me too. No, you gotta you got coin flip game,
Speaker 1: but I'm rolling with I'm with you on the Vikings
Speaker 1: like them, I'm going Packers eight seventeen. Alright, Greg, you
Speaker 1: have the snake pick. What is that what they call it?
Speaker 1: Not all right? I am gonna go with a game
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm just gonna go out and say right now,
Speaker 1: I'm locking up the Pittsburgh Steelers to beat the Seattle
Speaker 1: Seahawks this week. I'm gonna give the Pittsburgh Steelers a
Speaker 1: mulligan for last week. I believe in this roster. I
Speaker 1: don't think Ben Roethlisberger is gonna play that poorly every week.
Speaker 1: More to the point, I do not believe in the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: not just because they looked like the inferior team against Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: not just because they've really struggled on the road early
Speaker 1: in seasons. With Pete Carroll, it takes some a little
Speaker 1: while to warm up, But just what are they? Where's
Speaker 1: the talent? Like the offensive line, which we thought would
Speaker 1: be better, did not have a good game. The defensive
Speaker 1: backs are uneven at best. They're gonna be without Puna Ford,
Speaker 1: who has really helped on their defensive line. There's so
Speaker 1: many holes in this group. And they're going on the
Speaker 1: road to a Steelers team who is embarrassed by what
Speaker 1: happened last week. And I think the Steelers just take
Speaker 1: care of business and it's pretty easy. I agree, But
Speaker 1: I'd say the Seahawks do have some interesting talent. DK Metcalf,
Speaker 1: in addition to making several big plays down the field,
Speaker 1: drew an end zone pass interference penalty. Pete Carroll thinks
Speaker 1: that he's got the best linebacking core of his yes,
Speaker 1: of his Seahawks career. They really like Michael Kendricks there.
Speaker 1: It's a shot against Bruce Servants Bow I feel like
Speaker 1: back in the day. But yeah, because they had Right
Speaker 1: Wagner and Bruce everyon their linebackers. They do have great things.
Speaker 1: They have Russell Wilson, so they have a chance every week,
Speaker 1: but they still have Brian Schottenheimer. Colin plays like Brian
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer got schooled last week by Louan and Marona. I
Speaker 1: don't know how to say his name. I don't rubber bands,
Speaker 1: and I'm a little concerned hearing about Juju Smith. Schuster's
Speaker 1: toe still nagging him, and I wonder, you know, he
Speaker 1: he was shut down last week by the Patriots. And
Speaker 1: this is what kind of like the Broncos going to Oakland.
Speaker 1: It's the Mulligan like you're saying, where I just want
Speaker 1: to wipe everything we saw and just say this is
Speaker 1: the Steelers starting right now. But I don't really. It's
Speaker 1: easy just to ticke at them for eleven or twelve
Speaker 1: wins every year. But Seattle, to me, is a more
Speaker 1: resilient team than that, and I know that they It
Speaker 1: was an ugly game last week against the Bengals because
Speaker 1: they drove up and down the field against Seattle's defense.
Speaker 1: But Seattle also found a way to coax Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: into two turnovers. You know, Big Ben last year in
Speaker 1: Week one had that six turnover game against the Browns
Speaker 1: and they did bounce back, but this is another terrible
Speaker 1: Week one performance by Big Bennett. What point does he
Speaker 1: not at you know is the age keeps creeping on
Speaker 1: and he's lost to star players around him. James Connor
Speaker 1: got shut out last week. I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: just banning this spis can Dante Moncrief make a play
Speaker 1: one time in his career? He said it was the
Speaker 1: worst game he's He almost catches every pass for its
Speaker 1: entire care He'll almost catch everything. The numbers, what do
Speaker 1: you have four drops in that game? I mean, this
Speaker 1: is who he is playing like a broken finger, But
Speaker 1: why are you playing him every snap? Every offense he
Speaker 1: goes to is one of the least efficient passing offenses
Speaker 1: in the league. And as you can see next to this,
Speaker 1: I also am with you on this. I believe the
Speaker 1: Steelers are going to win handily. They're gonna be angry.
Speaker 1: So lock it up for the old Zeuser and the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers and what you Everything you said makes sense
Speaker 1: to Mark. So there is a and there is a
Speaker 1: world in a reality where this plays out, where the
Speaker 1: Steelers stumble and all of a sudden you're thinking, wait,
Speaker 1: do they not have legit playmakers did we all kind
Speaker 1: of over are underrate how how important those losses were
Speaker 1: for this team. But I'm for now, I I believe
Speaker 1: them to be a team that had a really bad
Speaker 1: Sunday night and we'll bounce back. I just have to
Speaker 1: show me that you wrote down the lock I would
Speaker 1: I would believe. I hate the way they didn't show
Speaker 1: up at all anneway that that to me was just
Speaker 1: like what are we getting behind all year? And where
Speaker 1: is this gonna end up? It's gonna end up where
Speaker 1: it always ends up. You should be you should be
Speaker 1: on the anti Steelers corner because for whatever reason, I
Speaker 1: way higher on the Steelers than almost anywhere else, which
Speaker 1: maybe like at this point in life, I'm not sitting
Speaker 1: around and deriving a lot of joy about another a
Speaker 1: f C North team struggling. There's like, what I mean,
Speaker 1: how what is what's coming out of that piece of fruit?
Speaker 1: Not much that doesn't smell test well. I'm I honestly like,
Speaker 1: do I sound that thrilled? Like I like something a little?
Speaker 1: To me, It's more like I don't want to like
Speaker 1: miss misconstrue their expectations all year long for a very
Speaker 1: known result, which we do with teams all that reminder,
Speaker 1: they went nine six and one last year, so they
Speaker 1: did take a step back last year, so we shouldn't
Speaker 1: assume them to be a twelve game winner. But I
Speaker 1: think they'll be. I think they're a power players. I'm
Speaker 1: just eyeing this like grab bag of stinkers that's heading
Speaker 1: my way to cover at the end of this so
Speaker 1: cal it's a sneaking back this way. Oh yeah, up again,
Speaker 1: I'm unprepared for this. Well he missed. That's like the Vikings.
Speaker 1: They missed. The slot goes to Dan. No, I'll I'll
Speaker 1: go with um same thing I did last week. Have
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson in that nice backup game where I don't
Speaker 1: have to focus every last second. I'll watch it a
Speaker 1: little later on game pass and really see it. But
Speaker 1: you can see the fire show out of the corner
Speaker 1: of your eye. Every listener out there predicted this one
Speaker 1: at home on their own mock drafts. They predicted Greg
Speaker 1: was taking Lamar Jackson. Well, you know what, it's a
Speaker 1: nice corner to be on right now. You might as
Speaker 1: well enjoy it. I mean, it's like I said, he
Speaker 1: was gonna be the most fun player in the league
Speaker 1: to watch. And he he like exerted a force of
Speaker 1: will unlike anything we've ever seen. Last week. That wasn't
Speaker 1: a criticism. I'm just saying the listeners mock drafts had
Speaker 1: this one. He did some nice little things too on
Speaker 1: his out routes. Didn't see a lot of those at
Speaker 1: some of the non highlight plays. Uh. And the defense
Speaker 1: played pretty well against may Man. Know it was Miami,
Speaker 1: but Patrick onwnwasu who they're really high on. His hair
Speaker 1: was on fire about the Ravens this morning. Well that's why.
Speaker 1: That's to my point on I can get excited about
Speaker 1: a team that goes into the season with a plan,
Speaker 1: and I thought that the first twenty minutes of this
Speaker 1: game basically told you that the front office nailed their
Speaker 1: off season about as well as you could possibly hope.
Speaker 1: Mark Irvin or mark Ingram mark Ingram absolutely burning down
Speaker 1: the house on Baltimore's first drive. You know what, I
Speaker 1: think some people doubted. People doubted what he would do
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, and he looked awesome right on defense. Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas picks off the pass on Miami's first possession, and
Speaker 1: then their first round draft pick, Hollywood Brown blows up
Speaker 1: for two touchdowns over the next couple of drives, and
Speaker 1: then they have two other wide receivers catching deep touchdowns too.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, they did everything, and I love that
Speaker 1: marks making hand motions that like white rappers make. Greg
Speaker 1: Roman basically said that they were medieval on teams this year,
Speaker 1: and that's fine thing to say. In the middle of
Speaker 1: the off season. It was not just the Dolphins. It
Speaker 1: had nothing. It did. Yes, the Dolphins looked to me
Speaker 1: like they cannot push anyone on either side of the ball,
Speaker 1: and they are a man down on every play. But
Speaker 1: they got torched in a way that few teams in
Speaker 1: the NFL do. M I predict tough times for Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray in this scheme. I don't know what Martindale is
Speaker 1: going to bring the house when he had some time
Speaker 1: to make a throw. Man, it's pretty, but they're just
Speaker 1: why would we think that he's going to have time. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm having an unbelievable draft. I'm having off
Speaker 1: I'm having a pretty horrible UM. Thursday, I woke up
Speaker 1: to the news that my favorite quarterback has effing motto
Speaker 1: and my season's over, um, and my hopes and dreams
Speaker 1: are destroyed, and hey, that's coming up later on the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast. UM, but I am having a
Speaker 1: good draft because I'm very excited to announce that I
Speaker 1: am selecting the Colts at Tennessee Tyitoons as my third
Speaker 1: overall pick. Two teams that really interested me in Week one,
Speaker 1: you have the Cults, who were on the wrong end
Speaker 1: of a very good um road effort. They lose an overtime. Um,
Speaker 1: there were some cracks they could not stop um the run.
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler killed him down the stretch and they never
Speaker 1: even got a chance to get on the field and overtime.
Speaker 1: But they also showed a lot of hot and bouncing
Speaker 1: back there um down the stretch and getting the touchdown
Speaker 1: of the two point conversion. Uh t Y Hilton showed
Speaker 1: that just because Andrew Lux gone, he is not irrelevant.
Speaker 1: Uh And and Jake Briskett, who they didn't ask him
Speaker 1: to do a ton um slice of Jake, They didn't
Speaker 1: ask him to do a ton of that game, but
Speaker 1: he delivered and gave what what what more can you ask?
Speaker 1: Where really from Jake Brisket Um. And then there's this
Speaker 1: interesting angle um Chris Westling the Titans versus the Cult
Speaker 1: since two thousand twelve versus Andrew Luck, the Titans never
Speaker 1: won once. Oh and eleven versus Jake Brisket, they swept him,
Speaker 1: uh the only two times. So the Titans who are
Speaker 1: feeling really good in general right now, and I get it,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna rain on their parade. They had
Speaker 1: such a great week one against Cleveland, um uh they
Speaker 1: now the the good times keep getting better because now
Speaker 1: you play the Colts in your building, and yes, Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: your your boogeyman is bye bye. That's set up. That
Speaker 1: streak is gone. It's gonna be gone it this week
Speaker 1: and I'm locking it up. Oh that Luck Titans win
Speaker 1: this game. You know, the thrill is gone for me
Speaker 1: in the Colts. Intellectually, I appreciate what their back said.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I appreciate what they're building intellectually, but I'm
Speaker 1: a omotionally bankrupt when it comes to this team. They
Speaker 1: put me to sleep, and I'm sorry. The heart wants
Speaker 1: what the heart wants, and my heart wanted Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: with the Cults, I think we should get rid of
Speaker 1: the heart wants what the heart wants. As a phrase
Speaker 1: considering it was said by Woody Allen but that's like,
Speaker 1: you have that power on this. I want to do
Speaker 1: it and blast Let's blast that phrase in time. I
Speaker 1: made that rule change before you can make a rule
Speaker 1: change here, I'm gonna keep using the heart ones what
Speaker 1: the heart wants because it's a good quote. These guys
Speaker 1: don't start fighting against the context of it, that's all.
Speaker 1: That would be an amazing fight that you guys had
Speaker 1: over Woody Allen, but we'll save that for the nebishy podcast.
Speaker 1: Go on. Uh. It reminds me of that little anecdote
Speaker 1: about Mark Twain, how he grew up frolicking on the
Speaker 1: Mississippi River and then once he got it became a
Speaker 1: riverboat pilot and started to look at it scientifically, it
Speaker 1: lost its beauty. He didn't appreciate the esthetics of it anymore.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I feel about the Colts.
Speaker 1: It's a little There's something to be said for gut
Speaker 1: feelings and emotions over intellect when it comes to sports fandom.
Speaker 1: I thought that the Titans broke Cleveland in the second
Speaker 1: half last week, that they are not a perfect offense
Speaker 1: Tennessee at all. In the in Mariotta was running around
Speaker 1: a little bit early on but the Derrick Henry, you know,
Speaker 1: he's not Christian McCaffrey or anything, but he does just
Speaker 1: enough at certain points. When he hit that seventy five
Speaker 1: yard catch and run for the touchdown, it broke Cleveland
Speaker 1: and their defense confused Baker Mayfield from the very beginning.
Speaker 1: And when we called them the Titoons, it was because
Speaker 1: they kind of they were. Well, I don't because you
Speaker 1: go watch that game against Cleveland like they are a
Speaker 1: top five looking defense right now. The way they played
Speaker 1: last week, I thought that they out the side of
Speaker 1: the first drive for the Browns. They confused, controlled and
Speaker 1: destroyed the Browns last week. Can we just see what
Speaker 1: they do in Week two though, I'm saying that, but
Speaker 1: we also can say that about every one of these
Speaker 1: other teams, especially they are I'm not on board with
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota necessarily, but this defense, which played well all
Speaker 1: last season is it's just as they they they finished
Speaker 1: high and scoring because there is they had so few
Speaker 1: possessions in like points per possession, they were middle of
Speaker 1: the pack, yards for play, middle of the pack, turning
Speaker 1: the ball over the middle of the pack. I think
Speaker 1: they played good team defense, and now they've got a
Speaker 1: lot of veterans. The secondary should have a lot of continuity.
Speaker 1: They should get better a good defense if they continue
Speaker 1: some trends, and again we have to wait. They are
Speaker 1: generating turnovers and Camera Wake was a huge difference to make.
Speaker 1: Yet well, I think that the Dolphins had decided that
Speaker 1: Cameron Wake was in the rotational backup pass rusher phase
Speaker 1: of his career, and he showed and we one that
Speaker 1: he is still downright explosive. He's fast, he can play
Speaker 1: a starting role. And I think the two questions about
Speaker 1: the Titans for me were Howard Delaney Walker and Cam
Speaker 1: Wake gonna look this year because they're older, Are they
Speaker 1: on the back nine of their careers and they're done? They?
Speaker 1: I thought, they answered quashion. That's why Cameron Wake can
Speaker 1: be good. He played twenty three snaps last week. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is kind of that guy off the bench that's
Speaker 1: gonna give you crazy energy. Delanny Walker changes them and A. J.
Speaker 1: Brown changes them because now they have some shot play ability.
Speaker 1: It's Walkers maybe not gonna make those shop plays, but
Speaker 1: he helps to set them up in the way that
Speaker 1: you're going to cover them, and that was missing from them.
Speaker 1: Romo was really impressed with Arthur Smith debut as the
Speaker 1: play color a lot of pop I I you know,
Speaker 1: in defending. The Colts had that ball I think nine
Speaker 1: times in the in the regular uh you know, in regulation,
Speaker 1: and they still scored twenty four points that included seven
Speaker 1: points of miskicks. The offense played very well. The defense
Speaker 1: was basically a disaster against the Chargers. And if you
Speaker 1: know that, they could have given up forty in that game,
Speaker 1: and that that's concerning if you're a Colts fan. Alright,
Speaker 1: West are four games left to choose from. What do
Speaker 1: you got? There are four mm hmm, oh, excuse me?
Speaker 1: Three games. I I hate doing this. I'm gonna choose
Speaker 1: to watch that. Grab the drab grey green turf in
Speaker 1: Ford Field. Let some sunlight in the building, please. Chargers
Speaker 1: at law Ends is my pick. Let's rip the roof off,
Speaker 1: get get rid of some of those black pebbles you
Speaker 1: keep in your turf, and try to have some real
Speaker 1: grass or something. Give me a break with that. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's the right week to face the Chargers because Hunter
Speaker 1: Henry got awful new, unbelievable about the plateau fractibial plateau
Speaker 1: fracture which they're they're still holding. I hope he'll come
Speaker 1: back later in the year. Mike Williams, I don't. It
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's gonna play this week. Uh. Their
Speaker 1: number two receiver and Transcott. Transcott at left tackle was
Speaker 1: exposed last week. He had a bad game. They have
Speaker 1: so many issues on their offense right now. The Chargers
Speaker 1: do that. I just feel like for the Lions this
Speaker 1: this is the right week to overcome that, giving up
Speaker 1: that big lead and weak one. I wonder if Matt
Speaker 1: Patricia has any thing he learned in New England on
Speaker 1: slowing down Philip Rivers. They did a pretty good job
Speaker 1: over the years. I went back to look when when
Speaker 1: Patricia was there, Rivers never really had those big games
Speaker 1: against them. I was not in love with the way
Speaker 1: they You know, that defense gave up the lead to
Speaker 1: Arizona without sending any pressure to Kyler Murray. Kind of that.
Speaker 1: Patricia seems a little bit asleep at the wheel there.
Speaker 1: M hmmm. I don't like that he has to coach
Speaker 1: with a crutch under his arm from behind the bench.
Speaker 1: That I mean, it's the show weakness. It's not fair,
Speaker 1: but it just I'm not suprimised. He's got a physical issue.
Speaker 1: It's not. I mean, he's not choosing to be a
Speaker 1: bunch of Gatorade coolers. And exactly is that something that
Speaker 1: inspires confidence from It's not. It's a towering and fear
Speaker 1: behind a bunch of struggle. It struggles from an optical side,
Speaker 1: behind the moat while the while the armies out there. Finn.
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned all the players that are missing
Speaker 1: from the Chargers. Are just fair which team is more
Speaker 1: talented though? In this game? Still the Chargers. That's how
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's probably still the Chargers, which I mean
Speaker 1: on the clip side, there's abuse for them to never
Speaker 1: do anything in the playoffs. You still have both, So
Speaker 1: you still have Ingram, you still Keenan Allen, you still
Speaker 1: have Philip Rivers, you still have that back face, you
Speaker 1: still have Casey Hayward. They don't have t J. Hawkey
Speaker 1: got a lot. I went back and watched that West
Speaker 1: t J. Hawkins and that guy he's nice, isn't he?
Speaker 1: And you made the good point how usually tight ends
Speaker 1: don't make an instant impact. Even Gronk, who was kind
Speaker 1: of worked into the Patriots attack. Um I remember Algie
Speaker 1: Crumpler was a primary tight end that two thousand ten season. Um,
Speaker 1: but good memory. Yeah, he had a huge drop in
Speaker 1: that Jets playoff loss, that's all. Yeah, But um, I
Speaker 1: think that he seems like a guy that could change
Speaker 1: their offense if he has like a George Kittle type
Speaker 1: stretched the field, like kill everybody guy in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field. They're lying dead play well against a
Speaker 1: pretty bad Cardinals defense, so that would that would bother
Speaker 1: me a little bit. But I do agree that Hawkinson
Speaker 1: can be a transformative player for that offense. Alright, Mark,
Speaker 1: wrap us up with a double? All right? Well, am
Speaker 1: I am I wrong? Or they're not three games left?
Speaker 1: There are two? Okay, well, then I obviously will be
Speaker 1: You want to know the two games? I thought that
Speaker 1: San Francisco at Land at Cincinnati, nationally televised New England.
Speaker 1: I guess you can't cut that from a live show.
Speaker 1: So that's how this works anyway, San Francisco at Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: New England at Miami. A right, Well, there's not a
Speaker 1: whole lot of suspense here. There's options left. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take because just in theory, if there were a lot
Speaker 1: of picks, I would go New England at Miami because
Speaker 1: when you suddenly got four games to observe at the
Speaker 1: same time like a crazy person hoping one of them
Speaker 1: is like a big lopsided affair. This will probably wind up.
Speaker 1: So anyways, I'm gonna take New England Miami, and you know,
Speaker 1: I know that they've got the holy Antonio Brown thing
Speaker 1: he's practicing today. He apparently is going to be on
Speaker 1: the field, which you know is a very strange thing
Speaker 1: I think for anyone watching this game. On top of it,
Speaker 1: I I want to see how the Dolphins even attempt
Speaker 1: to bounce back, and what I could say is maybe
Speaker 1: even a tougher spot. Although I don't know how you
Speaker 1: play offense better than Baltimore did last week. It's forget
Speaker 1: the whole concept of trap game for New England. They
Speaker 1: don't operate that way. They don't. I know everyone wants
Speaker 1: to throw out these figures about New England traveling down
Speaker 1: to Miami getting caught in these games. I know this
Speaker 1: is no Ronnie Brown there this year. All I would
Speaker 1: say is, doesn't this feel like a little bit different
Speaker 1: of a six station with Miami. My one thing about
Speaker 1: Miami is that and I and we've all we've discussed
Speaker 1: this on the show, that the concept of removing anyone
Speaker 1: of value from your team to build up draft picks
Speaker 1: and go and you can, and it's interesting, and I
Speaker 1: like the fact that it's an interesting experiment. But the
Speaker 1: way that they were pushed around by Baltimore in every
Speaker 1: possible way last week, there just wasn't a single guy
Speaker 1: in Miami's front seven that had anything to do in
Speaker 1: that game to stop anyone. I just don't know with
Speaker 1: the way that New England schemes and every possible way
Speaker 1: that you could put anyone on the offensive line and
Speaker 1: then find a way to confuse defenders no matter what
Speaker 1: they're doing pre snap, post snap, before the game, after
Speaker 1: the game, during the game. I don't know of Miami's
Speaker 1: roster was added the week before the season started. I've
Speaker 1: feel terrible for Brian Flores. The one thing I could
Speaker 1: maybe Belichick kind of throws him a bone and doesn't,
Speaker 1: you know, grind his face into it with it by
Speaker 1: running the score up. But Belichick has done that two
Speaker 1: teams and people over and over and alten against people
Speaker 1: that he previously worked with. These people, the people that
Speaker 1: he previously worked with, have his number, I mean, many
Speaker 1: of the most embarrassing losses in his history are against
Speaker 1: his former coaches, including two last week. He they were
Speaker 1: not competitive with the Detroit Lions last year. They were
Speaker 1: not competitive with the Tennessee Titans last year. I think
Speaker 1: if Flores had a little more juice, it might be
Speaker 1: a tougher UH matchup. And they wouldn't shock me because
Speaker 1: it's the NFL and they have pride in the rosters.
Speaker 1: They have enough talent, Like it wouldn't shock me if
Speaker 1: if it's a moral victory and it's a seventeen point game.
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick played pretty well, I thought, considering they lost.
Speaker 1: I mean he played I I when I watched it,
Speaker 1: I hear this, he played pretty well. I mean he
Speaker 1: feels like Mr Robotto. It's like he's getting hired to
Speaker 1: do a job that no want here in the whole.
Speaker 1: On one more thing, Belichick and his press conference, and
Speaker 1: I know that this is all a farce, like telling
Speaker 1: Dolphins scribes over a press conference over the phone that
Speaker 1: Miami has so much talent that they can't get at
Speaker 1: all in the field. At the same time, that is
Speaker 1: literally a quote that came out of his mouth this
Speaker 1: week about the Miami Dolphins. I mean, it is impossible
Speaker 1: to take so I wish he had more to say
Speaker 1: about Antonio Brown. Mary Little say on that the latest
Speaker 1: um drama around Brown, and you asked us patriots, here
Speaker 1: he is. Antonio Brown has been accused of rape and
Speaker 1: sexual assault, stemming from three different incidents in two thousand
Speaker 1: seventeen and two thousand eighteen. A lawsuit from Brown's former trainer,
Speaker 1: a woman named Brittany Taylor, claims that Brown sexually assaulted
Speaker 1: her twice during training sessions. Uh and forcibly raped her
Speaker 1: in March two thousand eighteen. Uh. There was, now, of course,
Speaker 1: speculation not a criminal charge. Usually the commissioner exemplists which
Speaker 1: has been used when there's been a criminal case involved
Speaker 1: with the player. This is not a criminal case. It's
Speaker 1: a civil lawsuit for that reason. Uh. There there's a
Speaker 1: belief that Brown would be available to the Patriots. Now
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone knows, and I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: are the rap rap sheet reports. There's a quote real
Speaker 1: chance Antonio Brown plays Week two unless the NFL steps in, right.
Speaker 1: I think trying to predict what the NFL is gonna
Speaker 1: do when it comes to discipline is a losing game.
Speaker 1: This this notion that okay, they used the Commissioner's exemple
Speaker 1: list only with criminal cases. They basically they didn't make
Speaker 1: up the commissioners example list, but they just started using
Speaker 1: it for the first time a few years ago. No
Speaker 1: one had really ever heard about it. They can do
Speaker 1: whatever they want. And I'm I'm I'm a little stunned
Speaker 1: that it seems like a perfect time for the league
Speaker 1: to step in, take it out of the team's hands,
Speaker 1: and just let this thing play out. Somebody's got to
Speaker 1: take it out of the team's hands because the depravity
Speaker 1: is getting a little too much. The Patriots and the
Speaker 1: league have a complicated relationship as we know. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that could play a factor in this, uh, but yeah,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick one was asked about He didn't want anything
Speaker 1: to do with the conversation. And I would like to
Speaker 1: know personally. And I guess the reports out there that
Speaker 1: the Patriots and had no idea about any of this
Speaker 1: before before acquiring Brown. That's what we reported on NFL Network. Alright,
Speaker 1: that's credible to me, just because you don't know that
Speaker 1: nobody knows. Can you imagine them giving that contract when
Speaker 1: they do know that's coming. It does seem like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you have new information here, that the league has new information,
Speaker 1: the Patriots have new information, and that you sideline like
Speaker 1: there's other ways to win. You know, I couldn't agree
Speaker 1: more this. This is where the NFL could step in,
Speaker 1: and let's ask the NFL to do what the Patriots
Speaker 1: job should be. You know, in my opinion, anyway, sit
Speaker 1: the guy down. Let's figure out what's going on with
Speaker 1: this situation, because it's pretty serious. And if you are
Speaker 1: one of the unbelievably any many people still defending Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: please take a look at these emails he sent out.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy, I don't understand how anybody can
Speaker 1: defend this guy after the last year. I just don't
Speaker 1: know how he's still getting people to go to bathroom. Um, alright,
Speaker 1: any other thoughts the game. I think the concept of
Speaker 1: gradual decline is gradually declining. Based on that game. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady would be number one in my quarter Quarterback Index
Speaker 1: this week if I was doing one, he was. His
Speaker 1: ball placement was impeccable last week. Julian Edelman is one
Speaker 1: of the toughest wide receivers I've ever seen. That guy
Speaker 1: is incredible, and I think the Patriots secondary might be
Speaker 1: the best position group in the NFL. Gordon looked great too.
Speaker 1: That was a takeaway. If Jonathan Jones makes the leap,
Speaker 1: and he had probably the best game of his career.
Speaker 1: He's a slot cornerback who they gave a nice contract to.
Speaker 1: He's been a good story coming up as an undrafted
Speaker 1: guy the last few years. He was a monster. And
Speaker 1: Chung kind of forget what happened with Chun Chung's out
Speaker 1: there playing doing Chung things last week. They have six
Speaker 1: guys right now that can just lock you down. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the best defense. It should be the best defense
Speaker 1: that they've had since two thousand four. Oh and just
Speaker 1: for gets in shiggles. Dante Scarnecki is gonna turn Isaiah
Speaker 1: win and into like the Dwight Stevenson of let left tackles,
Speaker 1: just because if you're gonna beat the Patriots, it's not
Speaker 1: this is not rocket scientists, rocket science. You gotta go
Speaker 1: get Tom Brady because he is old and he doesn't
Speaker 1: like to be hit, and you beat him up and
Speaker 1: you give him a gippy knee, and not that you're
Speaker 1: trying to do that. And we'll get to accusations of
Speaker 1: that in the Monday Night Football game. Uh, you have
Speaker 1: to beat up the old man if you let him
Speaker 1: sit back there. He's so talented as a passer, he's
Speaker 1: so smart and knows football so well, you're dead. That's
Speaker 1: what happened to steal. You've been saying that about stopping
Speaker 1: the Patriots week after week, month after month, and year
Speaker 1: after all. Right, it's that whole thing. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna get pressure, if you can get pressure
Speaker 1: up the middle and get four, you know with four
Speaker 1: you you have a chance. Well, yeah, of course that,
Speaker 1: Like every football coach has known that since the beginning
Speaker 1: of time. They want to get pressure with four and
Speaker 1: get it up the middle. But like you can't. Almost
Speaker 1: no one can, especially gets a good offensive line. I
Speaker 1: think Dante is a better coach than Bill Belichick. Well
Speaker 1: I'm getting in on that train. Hop on board. Put
Speaker 1: him in the Hall of Fame, and it's still building
Speaker 1: that train. But Dante and Donte was the coach under
Speaker 1: Rod Rust and Dick McPherson with Raymond Claybourne on the field.
Speaker 1: Round name, Come on Rust, all right, let's get into
Speaker 1: Sunday night football. Mark's number two games. San Francisco, It's Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Actually this isn't a bad game at all. This is
Speaker 1: the game. This is what you know. You wanted to
Speaker 1: sleep a gem in the final rounds that's going to
Speaker 1: spend the next eighteen years with a chip on his shoulders.
Speaker 1: He got picked last Niners at Bengals. How about it? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna chat. I think it is. I
Speaker 1: think it's it's a fascinating game. It's it's Jimmy G
Speaker 1: and they you know I'm not fascinated by Jimmy G anymore.
Speaker 1: This is my draft pick. So I'm gonna do what
Speaker 1: you do and say what a great draft I've had
Speaker 1: that it's been so productive. We've we've bought a bunch
Speaker 1: of starters. We love our off season. You know, I've
Speaker 1: got to pump it up too. So the Bengal, well,
Speaker 1: here's the basically drafted for the Bengals. The Bengals could
Speaker 1: have last week that that would not be the word
Speaker 1: three of them because you don't have any hold on
Speaker 1: so the Bengals. The Bengals last week could have all
Speaker 1: gone out and laid an egg and it would have
Speaker 1: been like this game would have zero, zero to me
Speaker 1: attraction at all. Because the Bengals where I was with
Speaker 1: them two weeks ago was not a good place, but
Speaker 1: they gave me a lot to look at and enjoy
Speaker 1: and I watched that was one of the games I
Speaker 1: covered last week. And so I'm not saying that I
Speaker 1: this was the top of my list going into this draft,
Speaker 1: but I'm happy to cover them again. And I thought
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and Zach Taylor there's a promising relationship there
Speaker 1: to the point where I'm willing to consider the idea
Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton at this works maybe is not someone
Speaker 1: they need. I've been saying, replace them, replace and replace
Speaker 1: him year after year. I'm a little concerned about Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1: Sounds like he will not be there potentially, and Giovanni
Speaker 1: Bernard not a bad running back, but I would like
Speaker 1: mixing is a difference maker who paces that offense from
Speaker 1: the ground. I don't like that if he's not in there.
Speaker 1: And for me, you get you finally in San Francisco
Speaker 1: after last year, one of the biggest sues no turnovers.
Speaker 1: They couldn't do anything on defense. They need to do that.
Speaker 1: The need to continue what they did last week, which
Speaker 1: was calls total havoc for the Buccaneers and Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: with three interceptions could have been more. And Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: turned the ball over twice last week and was that
Speaker 1: he did not shake that. They still don't have a
Speaker 1: j Green. So I don't want I want when we
Speaker 1: talk about week one to week two. I want to
Speaker 1: see if there's any regression in what we saw from
Speaker 1: the Bengals on offense. But it was a very promising start.
Speaker 1: You had it right last Sunday because you covered them
Speaker 1: last Sunday. Also, when you go back and watch a game,
Speaker 1: there were a lot of fun to watch their ability
Speaker 1: to move the ball and they actually haven't been in
Speaker 1: a long time. They absolutely beat up on Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: four sacks, nine hits and Wilson barely throw the ball.
Speaker 1: He only dropped back twenty four times. That from established
Speaker 1: the run and uh, Evan Silva who's killing it over there. Um,
Speaker 1: I think there's such a fun team to track and
Speaker 1: and Jimmy g although I just said that, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get exhausted by when is this guy
Speaker 1: gonna start playing like what everyone expected? Uh, it's a
Speaker 1: nice test. He has to go to Cincinnati here and
Speaker 1: face a team that that played very well defensively last week.
Speaker 1: Uh this, If he has a really bad game in
Speaker 1: Week two, people are gonna really start ratching up the
Speaker 1: criticism of Jimmy g I think d Ford and Nick
Speaker 1: Bosa forced the Buccaneers into some bad plays last week,
Speaker 1: and they're facing a worst offensive line this week in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: That's a problem. But I thought to me, the Bengals
Speaker 1: defensive line was more impressive than their offense. I don't
Speaker 1: think John Ross's uh fluke plays are repeatable every week.
Speaker 1: Sam Harvard was you know, one of those players you
Speaker 1: could have had on your list of He was on
Speaker 1: my other names to watch. Transformed a second year West Banger,
Speaker 1: alert defensive lineman and really helps complete what's a really
Speaker 1: st starting group, and they have some pretty good depth.
Speaker 1: The forty niners, on the other hand, and they scored
Speaker 1: thirteen points on their own last week, so they the
Speaker 1: offense had a miserable game against the Buccaneers defensive Dante
Speaker 1: pett is not playing, but two snaps, right. They're young,
Speaker 1: they're young receivers. It's they're just looking for someone to
Speaker 1: step up, and they don't know who it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel their rookie receiver had the most snaps, but
Speaker 1: he only had two targets for thirteen yards, So they're
Speaker 1: just they're searching right now. George Kittle looks every bit
Speaker 1: as good as last year. He lost a few big
Speaker 1: place to penalties from teammates. This team deserves to be
Speaker 1: one and one. Tevin Coleman out for a while. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure Raheem Mostard isn't like how much better is
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman than Raheem Mostly, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: think they have probably what arguably the deepest backfield in
Speaker 1: the NFL where it seems like they can play, and
Speaker 1: that's a Shanahan sort of trade. It is not anymore.
Speaker 1: I mean, no McKinnon this year, and now Coleman's gone that,
Speaker 1: it's definitely the stars step up. Alright, Sunday Night football,
Speaker 1: Let's get to it. The Philadelphia Eagles coming off that
Speaker 1: big second half to take out the Redskins in their
Speaker 1: open or travel to Atlanta to face the Falcons who
Speaker 1: stunk out the joint in Minneapolis. Uh in Week one,
Speaker 1: could not get anything going down twenty eight nothing, you know,
Speaker 1: put some lipstick on the pig at the end of
Speaker 1: the game. Mark that's a that's an expression. It still
Speaker 1: works one of the better expressions because you it invokes
Speaker 1: something immediately. I mean, I think it was probably from
Speaker 1: a time when the people that you knew were farmers.
Speaker 1: Everyone would kind of like they work with pigs a
Speaker 1: day to day basis. It had a little more pig right,
Speaker 1: no one's in the pigs, certain multiple functions. Everyone ian
Speaker 1: like if you're working with a pig. All I think
Speaker 1: we got this, like no one here works in agriculture.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. So, yes, the Falcon It's
Speaker 1: an important game, an extremely important game for the Falcons
Speaker 1: and dan Quinn. Who's gonna the heat's gonna turn up
Speaker 1: if if they lay another egg here in week two?
Speaker 1: Greg Um, do you expect the Falcons to bounce back
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball in a week two? Offensively?
Speaker 1: I do, and defensively I don't, which has been kind
Speaker 1: of the case for this team for a while. I
Speaker 1: just think it's it's so cliche to say, you know,
Speaker 1: you went up front and uh, the pressure up front
Speaker 1: and you get somebody into quarterback's face. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: you look at these you look at these two matchups
Speaker 1: up front on both sides, and you just think the
Speaker 1: Eagles are built with this solid foundation where Graham and
Speaker 1: journ again and and Fletcher Cox are gonna create problems
Speaker 1: for Atlanta. I think Atlanta's talent enough they'll still be
Speaker 1: able to move the ball. But on the other side,
Speaker 1: you've got Brandon Brooks back from injury, You've got Jason
Speaker 1: Peters fully healthy, You've got a just a massive offensive
Speaker 1: line against what's kind of a finesse defense. Like it
Speaker 1: works when it's the Seahawks and you have that talent
Speaker 1: and you have Pete Carroll and you're up there with
Speaker 1: the twelves, but it doesn't seem to be. It really
Speaker 1: has never worked on turf for dan Quinn except for
Speaker 1: a little five to sick games stretch. I thought the
Speaker 1: Eagles were one of the more resilient teams in Week one,
Speaker 1: where they found their offense in themselves in the second half,
Speaker 1: and I thought once on the move made some great throws.
Speaker 1: And we talked about it on the recap of that
Speaker 1: game last week that Sean Jackson and me was a question,
Speaker 1: I will find out what we have into Shan Jackson,
Speaker 1: and he absolutely flipped that game entirely for Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: capsized the Redskins defense, and the Redskins defense came out
Speaker 1: that game talking about how confused they were in the secondary.
Speaker 1: It's another one of these secondaries that couldn't figure o
Speaker 1: what was going on. I think the Eagles are I
Speaker 1: don't care if their home or away. They're gonna go
Speaker 1: in and they're gonna score some points here against the Falcons.
Speaker 1: They're the better team, and the Falcons all those concerns
Speaker 1: that they had entering the season, It's like they just
Speaker 1: picked a scab in Week one and made everything worse.
Speaker 1: The offensive line is even more concerning than we thought,
Speaker 1: the run defense and the lack of backbone even more concerning,
Speaker 1: and Isaiah Olivers starting at cornerback that Theeeling beat him
Speaker 1: for that touchdown. They've been a somewhat resilient team. Not
Speaker 1: not really, I guess at the beginning part of last year,
Speaker 1: but they have responded like they've been a team that
Speaker 1: has responded. They know this is a big this is
Speaker 1: it feels like it's a bigger game for them, certainly
Speaker 1: than the Eagles, but than almost anyone because I could
Speaker 1: see the Falcon still being a playoff type of team.
Speaker 1: But you really do not want to get out to
Speaker 1: an o and to start, I agree with Dan I think,
Speaker 1: and I think dan Quinn is around the lead. People
Speaker 1: see dan Quinn is one of the better coaches and minds.
Speaker 1: But if you go into it's gonna be you're you're
Speaker 1: facing an uphill climb there, all right, which takes us
Speaker 1: to Monday night football. It's start, of course with the news. Yes,
Speaker 1: I just woke up and uh open up the computer
Speaker 1: and UH find out that Sam Donald, the Jets quote
Speaker 1: unquote savior quarterback um is out from Monday Night's game
Speaker 1: against the brown because he has mono nucleosis more popularly
Speaker 1: known as mono. This is how Adam Gaze uh delivered
Speaker 1: the news to the public at his Thursday press conference.
Speaker 1: And then four team has mono and we'll be out
Speaker 1: for this game. So Trevor will be starting and Luke
Speaker 1: Falk will get elevated at some point and be the backup.
Speaker 1: So that would be that, indeed, that would be that
Speaker 1: Trevor simme and as Trevor who will now start against
Speaker 1: the Browns, And uh yeah, it's just as a Jets fan,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely um. The level of pain involved with rooting
Speaker 1: for this franchise. It's just off the charts because there
Speaker 1: you could deal with losing losing a lot of teams lose, UM,
Speaker 1: but the way the Jets exist and continue to exist
Speaker 1: as an organization, the way they invent new ways to
Speaker 1: crush you. I mean, what are the three I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this on the way up to the studio.
Speaker 1: What are the three most notable things about the Jets
Speaker 1: in the past, let's say, since we did start doing
Speaker 1: this podcast. UM, certainly it has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: their their play on the field. They been nondescript. I
Speaker 1: would say the butt fumble, of course. I would say
Speaker 1: the linebacker breaking, the starting quarterbacks jaw. And I would
Speaker 1: say the starting quarterback and the guy that's viewed as
Speaker 1: the great Hope getting mono and being knocked out for
Speaker 1: an extended amount of time potentially. I don't think these
Speaker 1: things happened to any other team. I don't think. I
Speaker 1: think this is a uniquely Jets cosmic crush that UM
Speaker 1: people that support this organization have to deal with, and
Speaker 1: of course the people that run the organization. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas is probably thinking himself, wait, what this is?
Speaker 1: What I I this wasn't supposed to happen to me. Well,
Speaker 1: it is. It's happening to you because you're employed by
Speaker 1: the Jets and that and that's the pain. And again
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about my dad after that Bill's loss. Again,
Speaker 1: the losing. The losing is the losing teams lose Jet
Speaker 1: Blues sixteen nothing lead in their opener and lost seventeen sixteen,
Speaker 1: setting their season on a bad course. That's that's whatever.
Speaker 1: But when your quarterback gets motto, that's the Jets. And
Speaker 1: my dad texted on Sunday, I don't know how much
Speaker 1: longer I can do this be a fan like And
Speaker 1: I don't think he means he's actually looking at it,
Speaker 1: but just it's it's wearing at on him. Fifty years
Speaker 1: since Joe Namath won the Super Bowl. So for the
Speaker 1: first time this season, I did reach out to my
Speaker 1: dad and asked him if he would give his thoughts
Speaker 1: on what's going on with the Jets, and he did agree.
Speaker 1: Now his name is Key, he stands dead. He'll doubt
Speaker 1: about it. He's a big Jets fan. What is he
Speaker 1: going to say? Game to say? What does he go to?
Speaker 1: Being a Jet fan is extremely tough season starting with
Speaker 1: a new coach, general manager, players, and even uniforms. There
Speaker 1: was high hopes for this season and now we're doomed
Speaker 1: from the start. In particular with Donald, there was high
Speaker 1: hope at quarterback that someone could lead us to the
Speaker 1: promised land of a winning season. Perhaps, but it's all
Speaker 1: over after one game, which is unbelievable. Dad's upset and
Speaker 1: all Jets fans feel the same way. And to compound
Speaker 1: the pain, leve Bell getting an m R I on
Speaker 1: his shoulder, Quincy and Numa out for the year with
Speaker 1: a neck injury. C J. Moseley, who was, as Dan
Speaker 1: said in the recap last week, maybe the best player
Speaker 1: on the field in that game, had a groin injury.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the status of his groin will
Speaker 1: probably play, but who knows if he stays on the
Speaker 1: field or if he plays at the same level. Well,
Speaker 1: the shape of their season has changed with this news.
Speaker 1: They're big underdogs against the Browns. Crazier things have happened
Speaker 1: than Trevor Simmons winning that game. But they're huge underdogs.
Speaker 1: And you got off the board, got the Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got the Patriots and and you have a very tough
Speaker 1: five or six, get done to start. I'm seeing the
Speaker 1: shape changes now. So at some point Donald is coming.
Speaker 1: The schedule the next month, right at some point Donald
Speaker 1: comes back, and this is a team that's you know,
Speaker 1: they're not They weren't gonna win the super Bowl this year,
Speaker 1: and it's crushing to lose that that hope for a
Speaker 1: relevant throughout season right off the bat. If that's what happens,
Speaker 1: but they can still try to They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: just basically try to achieve goals when he's back. And
Speaker 1: if it's just in in two games and they start
Speaker 1: out one and four, then you're gonna want to rally
Speaker 1: to get to five, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 1: it's unfortunately supposed to be. It was supposed to be
Speaker 1: a different type of shape to this season. That's the
Speaker 1: shape if you're a Jets fan, because you need Donald
Speaker 1: and Gaze to work together and work well together. They
Speaker 1: did not last week, but it was only one week
Speaker 1: against a good defense. I would say the one advantage
Speaker 1: to Donald not being someone that's in his second year
Speaker 1: turning twenty six or something. You know, you get these
Speaker 1: rookies that were in college for a long gated period
Speaker 1: of time. He's young social security. Well, it's like specifically,
Speaker 1: like getting mono shows how young he actually is, because
Speaker 1: you don't get motto when you're thirty seven years old.
Speaker 1: It is a young person's illness. But you know what
Speaker 1: I saw immediately everyone's dropping because now if you're if
Speaker 1: you work in sports, you've got to start hitting up
Speaker 1: people with your mono jokes. And they're flying all over
Speaker 1: the internet and we get it and it's funny, but
Speaker 1: Mono like, depending on how the body takes it, cannot.
Speaker 1: I love how they're saying he might be back in
Speaker 1: two weeks. Most people that get mono, and I don't
Speaker 1: know people could be back next September. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: It can knock you out your it depending on how
Speaker 1: your body responds. It can knock you out for a
Speaker 1: long period of time. And then if you know, it
Speaker 1: could affects the spleen. If your spleen gets hit, you've
Speaker 1: got a compound issues. So it is a serious illness
Speaker 1: and I feel for you as a Jets fan, and
Speaker 1: I would say that on this podcast alone, we've talked
Speaker 1: about this matchup in a playfully competitive and not so
Speaker 1: playfully competitive way all offseason over it does and and
Speaker 1: this people all hitting me up, Oh, are you like
Speaker 1: excited that this is the kid? Absolutely not, you would
Speaker 1: do that, I think, well, I think also from the
Speaker 1: you know, I I know that as a Jets fan,
Speaker 1: you're gonna say the Jets have had the worst thing
Speaker 1: in life, But the Browns are up there in many ways,
Speaker 1: and like the cosmic cruelty, there's a lot like I
Speaker 1: would say, it's not had a quarterback start sixteen games
Speaker 1: in his hold on since two thousand and one, and
Speaker 1: what happened to them last week was about as worst
Speaker 1: case scenario as you could that. Dan, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not in today. Today, I'm not getting okay, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not actually trying to compete with you at all
Speaker 1: in this. I'm just saying that you're not rolling in
Speaker 1: against New England Patriots here. And it's a it's a
Speaker 1: very Brownsian thing too, to go into New York and
Speaker 1: lose to Trevor Simeon, who statistics is pressure per game
Speaker 1: has the exacts. If you go look at the statistical
Speaker 1: per game numbers between Trevor Simeon and Sam Donald, they
Speaker 1: are almost identical except for Sam Donald. And I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I like Trevor Simeon is not you're not handing
Speaker 1: the he's he's He at least has some starts under
Speaker 1: his belt. This it's not a Cleveland rolls in the
Speaker 1: back to wins forty ten. In this game, they're back
Speaker 1: to where they were last week. They're there at home.
Speaker 1: They're on the road this week obviously, but where everyone's
Speaker 1: expecting you to take care of business. And we saw
Speaker 1: what happened with the Browns last week when people expected
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna expect the Browns to do it again. And
Speaker 1: if they'll flause, if the Browns lose with all the
Speaker 1: injuries the Jets have, including the loss of the quarterback,
Speaker 1: the Browns are in deep trouble. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's one of those a lot a lot to lose,
Speaker 1: not much to gain, although getting back to one on
Speaker 1: one is is one on one is fine. But I mean,
Speaker 1: anyone actually watching the Browns would say that they have
Speaker 1: some serious flaws. And this is a total recipe for
Speaker 1: dropping an egg on Monday Night football when everyone in
Speaker 1: the country now says and they're taking it off the board,
Speaker 1: good for you, and of handing them a victory, they're
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out who you know. But but
Speaker 1: Dan separate from that, like I. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that at least we can hit out at each other,
Speaker 1: but that's not really what I want to do at all.
Speaker 1: I think it sucks to be a Jets fan, and
Speaker 1: I grew up in that territory and they suck since
Speaker 1: I was in middle school and before that, And it
Speaker 1: sucks to be a Browns fan for of your life.
Speaker 1: So it's not one of these middle school arguments where
Speaker 1: you have it better than I do. It's a disaster
Speaker 1: and the win the loser of this game. Even with
Speaker 1: Donald in there is in a lot of hot water.
Speaker 1: From a coaching and roster perspective, Browns can't lose this game.
Speaker 1: They need to get a win, especially now the way
Speaker 1: it's set up for him. Freddy Kitchen is gonna catch
Speaker 1: a lot of heat if they can't take care of business.
Speaker 1: State of true. Trumaine Johnson, I don't know, I know
Speaker 1: the last time I saw a broadcaster do this, rich
Speaker 1: Gannon circled Trumaine Johnson, then circled John Brown and said
Speaker 1: this guy can't cover this guy. Yes, and Truemaine Johnson,
Speaker 1: lest we forget, is one of the highest paid quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the entire National Football League. Thank you, Mike mccagnan.
Speaker 1: He will be cut loose after this year barring some
Speaker 1: type of miraculous turnaround and play, and the Jets gonna
Speaker 1: have to eat a lot of dead money to do it.
Speaker 1: But he has been a complete liability. The only reason
Speaker 1: he's playing is a that salary and b they don't
Speaker 1: have anybody else. It's a terrible secondary, which is why
Speaker 1: even if Donald was there, I would obviously be rooting
Speaker 1: hard for the Jets, but I would feel really good,
Speaker 1: um about the Browns winning this game because I just
Speaker 1: think Donald and or Baker and all these weapons, they're
Speaker 1: going to carve up a Jets defense that is not
Speaker 1: that good and woeful at the cornerback position, and you
Speaker 1: would think that with Jervis Landry and Odell Beckham that
Speaker 1: they'll be able to pile up points here. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the Browns. Considering the score, didn't concern me that
Speaker 1: much in Week one. I think Baker needs to get
Speaker 1: rid of the health a little quicker. He made two
Speaker 1: of his best throws in that game pretty late in
Speaker 1: the game, in the in the late third quarter, another
Speaker 1: one in the fourth so I'm not that worried about them.
Speaker 1: The the penalties and the sloppiness and losing your composure
Speaker 1: and kind of caving in at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem like something that's gonna happen each week.
Speaker 1: Their pass rush shouldn't be that bad. I don't think
Speaker 1: they got a Lemon in Olivia Vernon, but he had
Speaker 1: about the worst game you could possibly have a week ago.
Speaker 1: So I think Vernon and Miles, they have a pass rush,
Speaker 1: they have a quarterback. They should beat the Jets. They
Speaker 1: should be a favorite. Even with Sam Donald, and now
Speaker 1: that he's gone, I do expect them to be the
Speaker 1: team that we expect. I would just say beyond this
Speaker 1: game though, And I'm allowed to be pessimistic too about Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Like with their line situation, there there about a six
Speaker 1: win team. I think I'm not ticketing them for as
Speaker 1: for eleven wins. What good wide receivers vanished when you
Speaker 1: cannot protect the quarterback. Quarterback makes the line though, and
Speaker 1: he was pressured thirteen times out of forty five. He
Speaker 1: did a bad job taking some sacks, and he took
Speaker 1: a lot of sacks. Considering the total pressure, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of plays in that game. He's sitting back
Speaker 1: there and he's waiting, and they haven't played a lot together,
Speaker 1: and the offense is a little different, and it was
Speaker 1: getting up to speed. I think the tackles there was
Speaker 1: worse tackle play across the league than the Browns have,
Speaker 1: just to put it in perspective. He was yards in
Speaker 1: a touchdown by late in the third quarter. And then
Speaker 1: one last no connected to this game, Odell Beckham. Nobody
Speaker 1: had spoken about him in twelve hours, so he decided
Speaker 1: to go after Greg Williams, the Jets defensive coordinator, uh
Speaker 1: accusing Williams of teaching dirty tactics to his player and
Speaker 1: saying something along the lines that Williams in his career forever.
Speaker 1: I guess he's referring to that preseason game last summer,
Speaker 1: two summers ago when the opponents came up to him
Speaker 1: and said, Greg Williams, this is the Ram. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Rams Giants game where a fight broke out because the
Speaker 1: Rams were targeting him. I believe it was Odell's rookie.
Speaker 1: It was obvious. It's oh yeah, it was happening. They
Speaker 1: were they were trying to hurt and what Henry Anderson
Speaker 1: did last week to Josh Allen, I ought to get
Speaker 1: some review two from Greg. Let's see that. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: Greg Williams, Uh listen, he's a hard nosed football cost.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you think I'm gonna defend Greg
Speaker 1: Glames or not? Okay, Um, all right, that's it. That's
Speaker 1: the week two preview. The next time you hear from
Speaker 1: us will be recapping all the games we just previewed.
Speaker 1: It's our Sunday Night flagship show, which also will be
Speaker 1: streaming on videos, so you make sure you check that out.
Speaker 1: The entire show will go up live uh minutes after
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football raps between the goals and Falcons, so
Speaker 1: check that out. Don't think I didn't notice the beard's back, Greg,
Speaker 1: the bird and the beard. Look, I mean it was
Speaker 1: here last week, wasn't it. I know, but it's really
Speaker 1: but it's missing when he's dressed as a you know,
Speaker 1: a Brown college, Brown university pass as well, So I
Speaker 1: make it. I'd take it a little graduate, a little
Speaker 1: like Vampire Weekend basis to look going on? All right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a like a Victorian novels. Let's have a
Speaker 1: little Middle March. Maybe something can we get in cameras
Speaker 1: have the capability getting tight on Greg's beard. Because all right,
Speaker 1: that's it. Thank you everybody, uh for listening and watching.
Speaker 1: You're the best in the world. This is Dan hands
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