Speaker 1: Uh Well was the official Jets podcast. We were presented
Speaker 1: by Winn Bett. Betty is a team sport but together
Speaker 1: at win Back. Coming up, we'll be joined by bar Scott.
Speaker 1: But first we're gonna start off with a mod Sauce
Speaker 1: the Gardener. What has it been like your rookie year
Speaker 1: fifteen games in now? Uh? Man, it's been great. I
Speaker 1: mean everything that I prayed for, everything that I thought
Speaker 1: it would be. You know, I can't really complain, you know,
Speaker 1: being able to just go out there on each and
Speaker 1: every Sunday and go against the best man. So this
Speaker 1: is true Blessing. How did you find out about the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl invite? Um? Who was the first person with
Speaker 1: Ald you? Uh? I want to say when our media people?
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, but it was like the day it
Speaker 1: was the day of type thing, like right, it was
Speaker 1: right before you know what I mean, so all right
Speaker 1: now he might be he might just be playing, you know,
Speaker 1: so I had to watching on TV and I've seen
Speaker 1: it like it was. That was great because that was
Speaker 1: one of my individual accolades, you know, to the three
Speaker 1: that I have, that's one though. So that was a
Speaker 1: great start, man, that was a true blessed. What did
Speaker 1: it mean to you even though you knew you had
Speaker 1: the invite in your pocket when you were watching the
Speaker 1: show and they actually announced your name and it was great. Man,
Speaker 1: it meant a lot. But I've seen when it was
Speaker 1: introducing the the guys, I was trying to see like
Speaker 1: if I was gonna be a starter or what it
Speaker 1: was gonna be, you know. So I remember texting. I
Speaker 1: text Jared, I'm like my pro boled starter and like,
Speaker 1: I know the DBS just coming up, and he took
Speaker 1: too long to text me. So I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 1: they gotta hurry up. So now I've seen I was
Speaker 1: a starter. I'm like, man, that's real cool. Man. Sure
Speaker 1: you were a great college player, never gave up a
Speaker 1: touchdown in your college career, And what did you anticipate
Speaker 1: as far as the transition is concerned, because right now,
Speaker 1: after team games, you leave the National Football League in
Speaker 1: p d s and now you're starting to get treatment
Speaker 1: like we saw we saw from a guy who was
Speaker 1: a great player here in years past, ral Rievers teams
Speaker 1: aren't throwing your way too often. Man, it means a lot.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm you know what I mean to
Speaker 1: be able to just do what I do as a rookie.
Speaker 1: But now I gotta just keep staying humble, you know,
Speaker 1: because at the moment I get too lax, too complace,
Speaker 1: and that's when you know team's gonna go at me.
Speaker 1: But you know, coming in, I definitely expected to be
Speaker 1: targeted a lot. You know, I expected for everybody to
Speaker 1: go to go at me each and every week because
Speaker 1: I'm a rookie, you know what I mean. But you
Speaker 1: know some games that I haven't, I didn't really get tried,
Speaker 1: you know, but I didn't know who was gonna be
Speaker 1: like that. But now that's your a great sign of respect.
Speaker 1: You know. For me, it's kind of a double edged sword,
Speaker 1: right because after the Troy game, you're saying, man, I
Speaker 1: was frustrated because nobody's even thrown my way, But that's
Speaker 1: such a sign of respect. If they're not gonna target
Speaker 1: your side, definitely, uh, it go hand. And I just
Speaker 1: wanted that to be my best game, you know, the season,
Speaker 1: because it was Detroit. It was my hometown, so you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted I wanted to, you know, make a lot
Speaker 1: of plays. But you know, I wasn't really just mad,
Speaker 1: but I was like Nan that was supposed to be
Speaker 1: the game for sure. What was it like for you
Speaker 1: to go home over Christmas weekend and spend some time
Speaker 1: with your family and also what kind of reaction do
Speaker 1: you get from people going back home? Oh? Man, my
Speaker 1: city loves me. Man, you know, growing up on the
Speaker 1: East side of Detroit, you know, they always loved me. No,
Speaker 1: I can truly say my family probably had the best
Speaker 1: Christmas ever. You know, I just gotta get thanks to
Speaker 1: the NFL, to the Jets in the game of football,
Speaker 1: because I honored so much and the things that my
Speaker 1: family wanted, the kids. You know, I was able to
Speaker 1: make that happen. So you know that was great and
Speaker 1: truly blessed for that. Your mom sees, um, she means
Speaker 1: so much too. What did you get hurt for this Christmas?
Speaker 1: Your first one in the National Football Lake. I just
Speaker 1: got a mink coat. You know, I heard my grandma.
Speaker 1: They always wanted, you know, a mink coat. You know,
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, they always like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get a mink coat. This is this and that.
Speaker 1: That was it real. You know, she she has pretty
Speaker 1: much everything, you know, so it's not really too much
Speaker 1: that I can get her. You know, she living, she
Speaker 1: living a dream for sure. How much did you carry
Speaker 1: Detroit with you on the field. I carry Detroit a
Speaker 1: lot with me, you know. Growing up, I never lived
Speaker 1: nowhere outside of Detroit. Like, for as long as I
Speaker 1: was in Detroit, I always lived on the East side
Speaker 1: of Detroit. I always lived in like the toughest areas
Speaker 1: I grew up. It's the places called seven Mile on
Speaker 1: the east Side. No, there was a tough area, a
Speaker 1: lot of violence going on. But you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: that's why my mom is my road model, She's my
Speaker 1: superhero because no matter all that violence that was going on,
Speaker 1: my mom was strict, strict about it. She wanted me to,
Speaker 1: you know, take a different route, take it to be
Speaker 1: on a different path, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 1: like I was one of them people who always wanted
Speaker 1: to be different. No, my mom is to tell me, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: your friends they do this, they do that. What are
Speaker 1: you going to do to be different? If you want
Speaker 1: to go where you want to go? You know. So
Speaker 1: I remember I could only control what I could control.
Speaker 1: So I said, I was never gonna smoke or drink,
Speaker 1: and I never did. I still never have, you know. Uh. Now,
Speaker 1: I prod myself and stuff like that, because I remember,
Speaker 1: like in college, he's trying to prepress me, not prepresson,
Speaker 1: and he's like, man, just just just drink, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But you know, I'm a man of
Speaker 1: my word. And uh no, That's why I appreciate my
Speaker 1: mom so much because she was able to help guide me,
Speaker 1: you know, on on the on the right path. So
Speaker 1: you're so determined and you're seeing that success right now
Speaker 1: in the National Football League or one thing that I
Speaker 1: talked to Bart about is that mentality when you do
Speaker 1: come from Detroit, as far as talking and how much
Speaker 1: that's part of your game. Can can you talk about
Speaker 1: how early you get the gift to gab, you know,
Speaker 1: as far as getting after people in in between those
Speaker 1: white lines. Um, I mean, if you're gonna be confident,
Speaker 1: you gotta just be confident. You can't, like I hate
Speaker 1: those types of people would be quiet the whole time
Speaker 1: and then they do something and then they get to talking.
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna talk, man, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: start and finish with it, but you gotta back it
Speaker 1: up at the same time. So that's something that like
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's just a Detroit thing. But
Speaker 1: you know in Detroit, you you gotta have it with
Speaker 1: you where you it's gonna be hard to survivee you know,
Speaker 1: in the football field. Uh so, Yeah, who has been
Speaker 1: the toughest guy for you to face this year? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because you've you've seen really good receivers Justin Jefferson, jama Are,
Speaker 1: Chase Digs twice, Tyreek kill. I mean the list goes
Speaker 1: out and I don't know. Man. I said the same
Speaker 1: thing in college at first, but I really don't know now,
Speaker 1: Like you said, I didn't. I feel like I've win
Speaker 1: against besides Davonte Adams, who I think it's like a
Speaker 1: great receiver. I didn't win against pretty much every elite
Speaker 1: receiver in the league. But I feel like one receiver
Speaker 1: that goes on the radars Mary Cooper. Like a lot
Speaker 1: of people they say jess and Jefferson, which is y'all right,
Speaker 1: Jessin Jefferson, Tyreek kill. Uh Mary Cooper. I think Mary
Speaker 1: Cooper like he liked that when the come of running routes,
Speaker 1: No Diggs, Gay Davis and one one one person who
Speaker 1: I think don't get mentioned too much. It's Tee Higgins,
Speaker 1: you know, because of Jamar Chase but see Higgins, he
Speaker 1: liked that, and I think he just uh got a
Speaker 1: thousand and receiving yards or something like that. Again, he
Speaker 1: liked that for sure. But I think I went against
Speaker 1: pretty much every elite receiver. He definitely did what some
Speaker 1: of those guys say to you after those performances, the
Speaker 1: guys seek you out after the field, after you guys
Speaker 1: compete throughout the gamers, that kind of like, hey, after
Speaker 1: that whistle blows, y'all go your separate ways. Nah, I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of them would come come up to me.
Speaker 1: I'm personally not a guy that just goes looking for receivers,
Speaker 1: you know, but you know, a lot of them got
Speaker 1: respect for me. Diggs, he was a little upset the
Speaker 1: last time we played. I don't know the reason, and
Speaker 1: but he he walked away like as soon as the
Speaker 1: game was over with, so we didn't get to really
Speaker 1: chop it up. But like before the game, we chopped
Speaker 1: it up. No, we already knew he was gonna go
Speaker 1: at it. But yeah, but a lot of those guys
Speaker 1: they respect me. I remember Chase, Uh, we chopped it
Speaker 1: up out of the game. We just laughing, joking, but
Speaker 1: like between the white lines, we just was going at it.
Speaker 1: You know, we just talking. He broughtly the first like
Speaker 1: elite receiver when I was like going at it with
Speaker 1: like as far as like we both were talking back
Speaker 1: for because I didn't know he was gonna be, you know,
Speaker 1: talking to you know where he was, but we was
Speaker 1: going at it for sure. You guys, the New York
Speaker 1: has had four players going to the Pro Bowl. Shouldn't
Speaker 1: be at least five. I'm talking about your guy, d J. Man.
Speaker 1: I was just by to say that, like it hurt me,
Speaker 1: you know as much as like that was one of
Speaker 1: my individual goals. If I could, I would want him
Speaker 1: to go. You know, he'd been in the league longer
Speaker 1: than me, man, and he uh the way he approached
Speaker 1: the game, the mentality that he has, the players that
Speaker 1: he makes weekend and week out. I would get my
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl up for him, you know. Man. He just
Speaker 1: worked so hard and I just been able to just
Speaker 1: watch a guy like him bust his tail every week,
Speaker 1: no matter if his body a little sword from the
Speaker 1: last game, just just and that when we get back
Speaker 1: in the building, he back to it. And I feel
Speaker 1: like he was the biggest Pro Bowl with the snub
Speaker 1: that was him like he's the definition of that. Man U. Man,
Speaker 1: it hurt me, you know, saying like he was like
Speaker 1: an arsenate or it hurt me, man, because I know,
Speaker 1: I know he liked that. What do you think this
Speaker 1: week is gonna be like for him? Going back to Seattle,
Speaker 1: a Seahawks team that he played with and experienced his
Speaker 1: career breakthrough. It's gonna be personal, you know, I think
Speaker 1: they let him go or whatever. Um So I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be personal because I know if it was me,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be personal. And I know the type of
Speaker 1: guy that he is, so he gonna he gonna be
Speaker 1: up to the challenge. He gonna want to compete, you know,
Speaker 1: like he always do. You're a big dude, but he's
Speaker 1: not the biggest guy. But he's got a lot of
Speaker 1: fight in him. How much do you appreciate the way
Speaker 1: he attacks on the outside and why is he able
Speaker 1: to win on the outside, because most guys, you know this,
Speaker 1: if they have his body type, they're just throwing him
Speaker 1: in the slot. Man, he first, he is strong guy.
Speaker 1: When he's strong too, he got good forward three. He
Speaker 1: gotta he know what's coming because he studied a lot
Speaker 1: of family for it. Man, he got hurt. He got
Speaker 1: that dog in him, you know, that's what it really takes.
Speaker 1: He confident and he got the mentality like I was
Speaker 1: bombed this one. He gave up a pass, he gave
Speaker 1: up a catch. It was no no explosive catch, but
Speaker 1: my man ran like a crosser. His man caught the ball.
Speaker 1: He's talking and he like, do that again? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm like, I'm thinking, like, man, he
Speaker 1: really got that dog in him, you know, to be
Speaker 1: able to just say that, because when I give up kids,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, all right, I can't let that happen again.
Speaker 1: But he was like do that again, So like not
Speaker 1: as my mentality, right, but I got it from him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's like a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff that I could not can learn from DJ Man.
Speaker 1: That's why George's being around him in the building, the
Speaker 1: outside of the building, being able to learned from. What
Speaker 1: do you think about the fans and the way they've
Speaker 1: gravitated towards you here and they welcomed me with open arms. No,
Speaker 1: I can't complain, you know, being in a place like
Speaker 1: New York, I knew it was gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure, you know, me having a name sauce, I
Speaker 1: knew I was gonna have a lot of opportunities, but
Speaker 1: I also knew it was gonna be a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: But like you know, I gotta just stay where my
Speaker 1: feet are, you know, stay level headed, you know, keep
Speaker 1: the main thing, the main thing. But I truly appreciate,
Speaker 1: you know, the fans to support me, my teammates, you know,
Speaker 1: just being there for us, cheering us on the whole way.
Speaker 1: You said at the top three individual goals, one of
Speaker 1: them check that box. What are the other two? Can
Speaker 1: you say? Man? All right? So pro bo Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year, Defensive Rookie of the Year, and are pro
Speaker 1: I remember getting asked about what my goals were, and
Speaker 1: I didn't even know like how big each and everyone
Speaker 1: them was. I knew like defensive rookie year because like
Speaker 1: I'm a rookie, but I was his name and stuff
Speaker 1: because I remember I used to just be like watching
Speaker 1: Jen Rams and He's like, man, I'm this, I'm he
Speaker 1: liked that. So I just said I wanted defensive rookie
Speaker 1: here or pro and pro bo. I knew the probo
Speaker 1: was because the game would come on but when I
Speaker 1: really said and just thought about him, like, bro, that's big,
Speaker 1: like Pro Bowl, Oh pro everybody can't make that, So
Speaker 1: like show, what do you think about? What do you
Speaker 1: think about the matchup this week? Ye Wolling on the
Speaker 1: other side. And then he got Kobe Bryant, who you
Speaker 1: played with your team with the Cincinnati and it was
Speaker 1: two great players, two great players. Willing I think he
Speaker 1: got like he got six interceptions. You know, he's been
Speaker 1: doing this thing. Uh, I've been sitting on social media.
Speaker 1: They wanted us to go at it. I had made
Speaker 1: a tweet. It was like I didn't want to say
Speaker 1: his name. But with the pro bo situation, but you know,
Speaker 1: you're a great player. I feel like the fans Seahawks
Speaker 1: fans be trying to make it something it's not. And uh, Kobe,
Speaker 1: that's my dog. You know, we locked in forever. No, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't really be doing jersey swaps, but I feel
Speaker 1: that's gonna be. He's gonna be somebody out do with jersey.
Speaker 1: That's gonna that's gonna happen every week. And another great receivers.
Speaker 1: You could see two this week if the Lockett's back
Speaker 1: in the lineup. But have you thought about potentially lining
Speaker 1: up a few times against DK mcalf Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: Man here, great fiscal receiver. You know, his body type
Speaker 1: is kind of like different. You know, he ain't the
Speaker 1: ever sized receiver. No, no, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: I've been watching take You make a lot of play.
Speaker 1: You know, you're very strong, speed, you got speed, runger routes.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it though. How cool is this
Speaker 1: that you guys still have a possibility here. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've lost four in a row. Nobody's happy about that,
Speaker 1: but there are two games remaining. You win those two
Speaker 1: games and the Patriots lose or taie one, the Jets
Speaker 1: are in the playoffs. And saw his Gardner's rookie season
Speaker 1: and that's big. Um Cosalo always talked to us about, like,
Speaker 1: like I said, men were you are, you know, taking
Speaker 1: them one day at a time, one week at a time.
Speaker 1: So that's all I can really do. You know, the defense,
Speaker 1: we just keep chopping wood every day, man, trying to
Speaker 1: get better and better watching the film. You know, like
Speaker 1: I said, taking them one week at a time. We're
Speaker 1: trying not to get to ahead of ourselves. Amazon Prime
Speaker 1: had the game last week. Judge Jack Wars. Richard Sherman's
Speaker 1: part of that broadcast team. Do you have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to chop it up with him at all? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: definitely chopped it up. Man. We're just talking a little
Speaker 1: bit of ball before the game, joking a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're a funny guy. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, he was a great player when he was playing.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll still be watching this tape my coach
Speaker 1: right now because older I believe he coach Sharon for
Speaker 1: like a year, so he'd be sending me tape a sharm,
Speaker 1: you know, some good things to do in the run, game,
Speaker 1: pass game, hot point the ball, doing a lot of things.
Speaker 1: So now I still definitely watch him. What do you
Speaker 1: like about SHRM's film, Man, He just he knew it
Speaker 1: was coming before before man, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That was one thing I've seen, like, especially if he
Speaker 1: was playing off coverage by certain splits, he knew where
Speaker 1: I was coming. He knew about to anticipate, you know,
Speaker 1: about the dn D. He knew what concepts to expect,
Speaker 1: you know. So those was the main things I was like, Damn,
Speaker 1: how do you know that coach? Like? Man, he was
Speaker 1: just he made love. He told me he made love
Speaker 1: to the family. So, uh, you know, I probed myself
Speaker 1: and doing the same thing. That's cool about the ral Rievers.
Speaker 1: He's said, se my finals for the Pro Football Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame and he spent time with you guys this year.
Speaker 1: What was it like? The interaction was reef man. It
Speaker 1: was crazy man, right. He was a guy used to
Speaker 1: go on YouTube type his name in and see him
Speaker 1: shooting guys down. Before I even started playing corner, Like
Speaker 1: there's an always playing receivers. I used to see, like, Hey,
Speaker 1: what am I going to expect when I get to
Speaker 1: in the NFL because I thought I was gonna be
Speaker 1: a receiver. But I always had the mental I was
Speaker 1: gonna go to the league. I was thought was saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's strong, but he ain't gonna be able to guard me.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Well, he was a great,
Speaker 1: great guy, extremely humble. Like I said, he him and
Speaker 1: him and Sharon had that similarity. You know, they watched
Speaker 1: a lot of tape and they knew it was coming. Like, um,
Speaker 1: I forgot who it was, but it was it was
Speaker 1: a coach for the Jaguars or a guy that worked
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, and I guess he coached Sherman. He
Speaker 1: told me like Sharm knew everything that was coming before
Speaker 1: it him happened, like even to walk through, if one
Speaker 1: of the Scott receivers wouldn't at the right split and
Speaker 1: ran a certain route, he was stopping and tell him
Speaker 1: to get where they gotta be, you know, because he
Speaker 1: wanted to get the look. He was saying, like even
Speaker 1: to walk through, he wasn't allowing them to catch no passes,
Speaker 1: So you know he took He took a lot of
Speaker 1: pride in that, but it was it was great to
Speaker 1: be able to spend a lot of time with him
Speaker 1: man and just watch what he did. Hey making that
Speaker 1: transition to the pros. Obviously you still play a lot
Speaker 1: of man, but you probably have played more zone this
Speaker 1: year then since he asked you to do last year.
Speaker 1: How have you been able to just really well? But
Speaker 1: it's that because I think probably a doubter would come
Speaker 1: out and say, yeah, Gardeners, really good man proceeded. Is
Speaker 1: he gonna thrive in those zone situations? And you've shown
Speaker 1: the ability to do that. You're natural and both um
Speaker 1: I had to get thanks to my coach course owner.
Speaker 1: You know him just being able to help teach me
Speaker 1: how to play certain techniques, help teach me the scheme here.
Speaker 1: You know. That's the main reason, because like in the
Speaker 1: All season, I could have went anywhere else and worked
Speaker 1: on some man off Man and some prison man. But
Speaker 1: I stayed here and was getting worked you know, So
Speaker 1: that way I could adapt to the scheme, and that's
Speaker 1: why I'm able to do it at high level. Favorite
Speaker 1: video game right now. I gotta say, call the Duty
Speaker 1: wors on top five characters, Call of Duty All Time characters.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean by characters. Um as
Speaker 1: far as Call of Duty, who would you want to be?
Speaker 1: I mean like the operators that you can play with. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Snoop Dogg was in there. I don't know too
Speaker 1: many operators, but you got you got Snoop Dogg. He
Speaker 1: was cool. He had I think he had like a
Speaker 1: leather jacket on a little top hat on his head.
Speaker 1: It was nice. It was nice for sure. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: a skin called a road skin, so like it's like
Speaker 1: all black so you can't really see. You can have
Speaker 1: in the corners if you have to. Uh, I like
Speaker 1: the ghost skin. Uh. I don't know too many other ones. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know too many others, but we're going home
Speaker 1: and play tonight. Oh yeah, definitely hop on there tonight. Twitch.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm being on Twitter day, probably tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I love doing that though. Man never to interact with
Speaker 1: the fans, you know, that's great. Hey, I really appreciate
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Speaker 1: Virginia without further ado, let's bring in the mad backer part. Scott, Hey,
Speaker 1: you just missed your guys saw Us Gardner, who was
Speaker 1: in here inside the studio. Well, you know when he's
Speaker 1: represented for they, you know the city of Gooms, you
Speaker 1: know quite quite well, right, Um, he comes from a
Speaker 1: historical high school, high school that gets a lot of
Speaker 1: respect out of Detroit. Brandon Netwich went there for a
Speaker 1: brief moment, you know, Anthony Adams, a k A. Spice
Speaker 1: Adams went there and because of his emergence, he's kind
Speaker 1: of one up my my high school that comes from
Speaker 1: Will Goosen and Jonathan Hankins. So we we need somebody
Speaker 1: else in my high school to kind of come up
Speaker 1: in the ranks so we can kind of square it even.
Speaker 1: Are you surprised how quickly he's made This transition appears seamless.
Speaker 1: The guy leads all defensive backs everybody in the National
Speaker 1: Football League in p d s and sometimes teams aren't
Speaker 1: even targeting him. Now he's getting the Reeva's treatment. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's getting a lot of respect. Early on. He's earned it,
Speaker 1: right because of his length and its competitive nature. Right,
Speaker 1: Like I said all the time was Bill, it lasts long,
Speaker 1: and it was born, and you know he has a
Speaker 1: competitive nature. He comes from a place in Detroit. And
Speaker 1: I'm not just kind of throwing Detroit out there, but
Speaker 1: let me explain to our our viewers how a football
Speaker 1: game in high school or PEV League is played in
Speaker 1: the cit of Detroit. You know, it's surrounded by all
Speaker 1: the alumni that went there before. I don't care if
Speaker 1: you went to the pros or you didn't. I mean
Speaker 1: I watched Gilbert Brown, Jerome business and guys come back
Speaker 1: and like put money on little league games, or bet
Speaker 1: for little league games, or stack the deck when it's
Speaker 1: time for cap time. People take that personal because it's
Speaker 1: not only it's like it's a territorial thing, right, It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're from this part of Detroit. We're better than this side,
Speaker 1: you know. So like I laugh all the time when
Speaker 1: I go back to Detroit. You know, my mother is
Speaker 1: at the picnic class of six sixty nine. I don't
Speaker 1: know which which year it is, well six, and you
Speaker 1: just told me in the back of my m here
Speaker 1: at sixty nine, right, and then I'm class and then
Speaker 1: it's like so it's like that type of right, it's almost, um,
Speaker 1: it's like a territorial thing. Right. So it's like it's
Speaker 1: competitive because you have everybody that's been there before showing
Speaker 1: up for these games, whether they come back to Detroit
Speaker 1: or not. And it's real tense. It's almost like basketball
Speaker 1: where the trash talking is at a whole new level.
Speaker 1: That's why every person that anybody kind of recognized or
Speaker 1: no from Detroit, whether's basketball, football, they talked too much.
Speaker 1: It's not just that it's it's a Detroit thing because
Speaker 1: that's kind of how we grow up. We grew up
Speaker 1: in the pressure cooker where we're gonna tell you what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do, and we're gonna do it. So the
Speaker 1: fact that he was talking, he was yapping, he already
Speaker 1: knew the truth is the truth. So he already knew
Speaker 1: that he was the truth. So he didn't mind having
Speaker 1: a confidence being bolt enough to tell you because when
Speaker 1: you talk like that, you have to you have to
Speaker 1: back it up. But if you're able to back it up,
Speaker 1: your name rise to the top. Like cream early because
Speaker 1: they said he said it, and he did it right.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't surprised with his competitive nature because also
Speaker 1: like most guys from the Troy, whether Antonio Gates, Larry Foot,
Speaker 1: you know what happens is Jerome Vennis, right, whoever what
Speaker 1: happens is he was overlooked. So he has that mentality,
Speaker 1: that attitude. But he was shunned because, whether he'll tell
Speaker 1: you it or not, nobody first choices the University of
Speaker 1: Cincinnati to play football. He went there with something to prove,
Speaker 1: and he made it out of University of Cincinnati. But
Speaker 1: he couldn't wait for the opportunity to prove to everybody
Speaker 1: else that he was worthy to be at Alabama, he
Speaker 1: was worthy to be at l S, U. Clinton and
Speaker 1: all those places, and that he wants to remind them
Speaker 1: that they chose wrong. That's what is all about. So
Speaker 1: how much do you love the style and the swagger
Speaker 1: that he brings to the table. Hey man, if you
Speaker 1: give them some protein shakes, and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you found them up a little bit. You get the
Speaker 1: same type of rhetoric that you heard from me, the
Speaker 1: same rhetoric that you heard from Chris Jenkins. Right, Remember
Speaker 1: Chris Jenkins, big man talked too much, crazy all over
Speaker 1: the place. It's just it's just how we are built
Speaker 1: in Detroit. We don't mind being bold and braggadocious, loquacious.
Speaker 1: Speaking about bold and braggadocious and loquacious. I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: I use all my college words too. That's all I got.
Speaker 1: I got no more left never. Yeah, of course, because
Speaker 1: you didn't go to the University of Michigan or Michigan State.
Speaker 1: Hey listen, I'll never forget Floyd Mayweather, who's got some
Speaker 1: Michigan roots himself from the state of David Harry, David
Speaker 1: Hare's the only one from Detroit, by the way that no,
Speaker 1: don't talk. It doesn't talk. That's right. So Floyd comes here.
Speaker 1: You guys are having a practice, and after the practice, uh,
Speaker 1: the guys in the locker room are literally having a
Speaker 1: conversation saying who could take Floyd? And Chris Jenkins was
Speaker 1: so mad because people were making an argument saying, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: if Floyd stood up, he'd take care of you. Chris
Speaker 1: Jenkins saying, listen, dude, I crushed them with one hand.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm three eighty and I have two and
Speaker 1: a half abs and whatever. He hit me with them,
Speaker 1: but baby knuckles ain't gonna hurt me and he problems. Right,
Speaker 1: They have weight classes for a reason. I agree with that. Hey, uh,
Speaker 1: let's touch upon a couple of things here. Let's go
Speaker 1: across the way and talk about DJ Reid. How disappointed
Speaker 1: were you because you've been talking about DJ reads throughout
Speaker 1: the season, not just for a Pro Bowl case, but
Speaker 1: for an all pro case, all pro case. How disappointed
Speaker 1: were you that DJ Reid did not get that Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl invitement? I mean extremely disappointed, But you know I've
Speaker 1: seen this movie before. He's new to the conference, meaning
Speaker 1: that he's fresh to the a f C coming from
Speaker 1: the NFC, so the name recognition isn't strong. He's playing
Speaker 1: at a high level, but the team isn't in first
Speaker 1: or second place, so the eyes aren't on him like
Speaker 1: they should be. Sauce has a fucking nickname you can't
Speaker 1: man with a lot of a lot of hype, and
Speaker 1: he's lived up to the hype and maybe exceeded the hype.
Speaker 1: But DJ isn't a self promoter. He's a quiet guy,
Speaker 1: so a lot of times that won't get the eyes
Speaker 1: on you write him talking about what he did too.
Speaker 1: I think Justin Jefferson was probably the first time we've
Speaker 1: heard him speak and pound his chest about himself. Um.
Speaker 1: With that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if the
Speaker 1: voters voted him second team a first team All Pro,
Speaker 1: which is way more important than you talked about Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls are is a popularity contest. And just so
Speaker 1: people out there that's listening to this podcast understand, players
Speaker 1: routinely vote for people that they know isn't gonna make
Speaker 1: it because they want their guy to make it. So
Speaker 1: you can't really take the players vote seriously. That's why
Speaker 1: it comes down to the fans. The fans vote is
Speaker 1: more about a popularity contest, the only one that should
Speaker 1: be somewhat true. And I would be surprised if coaches
Speaker 1: don't do this to a certain extent as well, try
Speaker 1: to screw it so it can come to their guys.
Speaker 1: So it's an it's an unfair system, and it's not
Speaker 1: really based on facts and performance. It's based on renton
Speaker 1: name recognition. Example and exhibit A and B is the
Speaker 1: fact that Marlon Humphreys has played well not Pro Bowl caliber,
Speaker 1: that secondary is given up extreme high numbers in the
Speaker 1: past game you talked about giving up to twenty one
Speaker 1: point lead to UH Miami early in the game. They're
Speaker 1: giving up some ha some nasty games where they struggled
Speaker 1: as a pass defense. Right. And also, Damon Howard would
Speaker 1: be the first one to tell you that he was
Speaker 1: more shock than anybody that he was a Pro bowler
Speaker 1: this year. Those are spot that you know, I would
Speaker 1: be you know that I would suggest that DJ Reid
Speaker 1: should have been in because those two guys didn't live
Speaker 1: up to the expectation. Now you think about Sauce, you
Speaker 1: think about Patrick Certain. They're well deserving because Patricks Certain
Speaker 1: and that defense is amazing out there in Denver, especially
Speaker 1: with the circumstances of Russell Wilson playing like he's played
Speaker 1: this year. We're not gonna talk about the Broncos. We
Speaker 1: we don't need any call in that Christmas stocking. I
Speaker 1: love it when you take us inside the locker room though,
Speaker 1: and really are forth comment about the way it works
Speaker 1: and and turn and this example you're saying, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: probo voting, sometimes they vote for the worst guy out
Speaker 1: there because they want their teammate to make the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: all right, So that makes a lot of sense. Speaking
Speaker 1: of Christmas, A lot of presents under the Jets tree
Speaker 1: this weekend. They get handled by Jacksonville at home, and
Speaker 1: it looked bleak their playoff chances. What do you think
Speaker 1: about the postseason possibilities now? After Miami loses to the Packers,
Speaker 1: New England loses the Cincinnati. We know that Tennessee is
Speaker 1: not gonna impact the Jets, but Cleveland lost. You have
Speaker 1: tie breakers over Pittsburgh. You don't have to worry about them. Um,
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders are not gonna make a miraculous
Speaker 1: run right now. If the Jets win their final two
Speaker 1: games Mats at all at Miami and the Patriots lose
Speaker 1: or tie wants to either Miami or the Bills, the
Speaker 1: Jets make the postseason. Yeah, I mean, and you talk
Speaker 1: about backing your way into the postseason. At some point,
Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna have to handle their business. Good
Speaker 1: news on the front. Mike White is clear he's gonna
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to play, and then the Jets should
Speaker 1: be excited because this is the second lease on life. Right,
Speaker 1: and you talk about and you know, I'm familiar with
Speaker 1: this scenario two Atlanta right, two thousand nine. You know
Speaker 1: Atlanta Los to Atlanta, tough last second play. We thought
Speaker 1: we were done and it turned out that, hey, we
Speaker 1: had another opportunity. Now the Jets are gonna have to
Speaker 1: figure out, you know, how do they take care of
Speaker 1: their business? And you know some things that can serve
Speaker 1: me a little bit in the show their their youth
Speaker 1: was Guy's coming with Gritch outfits on guys coming with
Speaker 1: Bunny outfits on data. That just let me know that
Speaker 1: they didn't have the experience even though his Zama had
Speaker 1: been in the playoffs the week before. But you have
Speaker 1: to understand it is a totally different level when you're
Speaker 1: trying to go to the playoffs. The Jets have essentially
Speaker 1: been in the playoffs the last three weeks and they
Speaker 1: haven't had they had the opportunity to to win. I
Speaker 1: bet you this week it's going to be more focused.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be focused, it's gotta be everything you've got.
Speaker 1: Understand that the holidays in New Year's here, that means
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Because you guys made a commitment to yourself
Speaker 1: early earlier this year to be able to have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to shock the world, to be ahead of as
Speaker 1: head of schedule, and you have to push all that aside.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see any smiles on faces. I
Speaker 1: want to see guys coming in business workman like piste
Speaker 1: off with the opportunity to say, listen, that team over
Speaker 1: there in Seattle has something that not only we want,
Speaker 1: but we need. And I will not leave this place
Speaker 1: without what I came for. And that's a w that's
Speaker 1: the lie that you have to have the entire week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love your energy. You must have got a lot
Speaker 1: of sleep Christmas Eve and Christmas night. Listen, what's gotta
Speaker 1: cheat offensively? Though? For the Jets, we know Mike White
Speaker 1: is gonna return to the lineup. He will start against
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. But it's more than just a quarterback, correct,
Speaker 1: So tell me what you're seeing by watching the Jets.
Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks, you even can go back.
Speaker 1: White moved the football, but the Jets scored one offensive
Speaker 1: touchdown in Minnesota and one offensive touchdown in Buffalo. Well,
Speaker 1: in the absence of Mike White, the Jets have been
Speaker 1: looking for a lot of answers, and one of the
Speaker 1: answers was trying to put Straveler up. And I believe
Speaker 1: that gives him a unique ability to play situational football,
Speaker 1: and also it takes more time for other teams to
Speaker 1: have to prepare for a wildcat type of package, and
Speaker 1: you can telle you to grow that tasting hill type
Speaker 1: of the type of package. It's gonna help you on
Speaker 1: the goal line, right, it's gonna help you on the
Speaker 1: goal line, gonna help you in the red zone, it's
Speaker 1: gonna help you with short yardage. Now you have a
Speaker 1: situational player much like we have Brad Smith who can
Speaker 1: ulize that skill set. But still what had the quarterback pedigree?
Speaker 1: Like you can't you can't expect struggler to play a
Speaker 1: whole quarter or a whole half, but you expect him
Speaker 1: to come in and make defensive be on their hills. Now,
Speaker 1: the reason why, you know the rest of the team
Speaker 1: struggles because it was a lack of respect for the
Speaker 1: football acumen of the quarterback, which men mean that they
Speaker 1: manned up on the outside and they brought an extra
Speaker 1: man in the box and the you know, the effects
Speaker 1: of that means that they you know, the run game
Speaker 1: struggle with Mike White there. If they dare to put
Speaker 1: eight or nine in the box, that creates a lot
Speaker 1: of one on ones on the outside, and because he's
Speaker 1: so good at getting the ball out of his hands
Speaker 1: and having pres not recognition, that should make the running
Speaker 1: game even better. So the offense should flourish again because
Speaker 1: now teams are gonna have to play honest and they're
Speaker 1: gonna have an opportunity, you know what, I mean, to
Speaker 1: show up and show up. Secondly, I hope that part
Speaker 1: of the narrative is that Hey, Sauce is supposed to
Speaker 1: be the rookie of the Year, but on the other side,
Speaker 1: it's a young man that has made a case for
Speaker 1: himself to be Rookie of the Year. I believe his
Speaker 1: name is Wooling and he's wallin right. So I hope
Speaker 1: that means that Sauce steps up and leaves no doubt
Speaker 1: that he's the better player, because he's going against Listen,
Speaker 1: Locking and metcalf is a handful and they give you
Speaker 1: problems in different ways. Ones physically gifted, fast, strong, much
Speaker 1: like t O, and the other one is fast and
Speaker 1: quick like a Marvin Harris, with the ability to take
Speaker 1: the top off the defense. So I think this would
Speaker 1: be a great opportunity for Sauce to show his versatility
Speaker 1: and being able to stop guys that are great at
Speaker 1: the receiver position but have different attributes. What's your take
Speaker 1: on Gino? Why has he been able to flourish this season?
Speaker 1: Obviously he gets an opportunity that played his first four
Speaker 1: seasons with the Jets. Feels like a lifetime of goal.
Speaker 1: But his numbers are off the chart. Listen, he's been
Speaker 1: in the same system. Yeah, low expectations and he inherited
Speaker 1: a great offensive line right the The Seattle Seahawks outside
Speaker 1: of the Jets, probably had the best draft outside of
Speaker 1: the Jets this year when you talk about instant uh
Speaker 1: productivity from young players. Their right tackle and left tackle
Speaker 1: are home runs, and they got them in a draft.
Speaker 1: They have a great running back, sound familiar. They got
Speaker 1: a great running back and Kenneth Walker the second from
Speaker 1: Michigan State. They hit there right. They found every a
Speaker 1: cornerback that played receiver in college, much like Richard Sherman.
Speaker 1: So they knew that they, you know, for their system,
Speaker 1: that type of player would be effective. They hit on that.
Speaker 1: So you you look at what they've been able to
Speaker 1: do and the fact that you know, because of the
Speaker 1: trade they were able to get you know, fat able
Speaker 1: to get a good defensive tackle. It plugged up a
Speaker 1: lot of holes. And now they listen much under like
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, this is going home, right, this, this
Speaker 1: is going home. This is where Salad was born. Right,
Speaker 1: this is when we first started to notice Robert salom Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with Carroll that two exactly. So you talk about this
Speaker 1: team is gonna be mentally tough. They believe in running
Speaker 1: the football. It's gonna be mere images of each other,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna come down and who's gonna be able
Speaker 1: to make the plays? Right? Geno Smith has been able
Speaker 1: to inherit a pretty good football team. And remember he
Speaker 1: wasn't the guy they thought they believed in Drew Lot
Speaker 1: because they had scotting him coming out, and they believed
Speaker 1: in him, and Gino Smith took the job and never
Speaker 1: let go of it. He may be the long term
Speaker 1: solution for that team. And they still have a little
Speaker 1: bit to fight for now. I know it's still bleak
Speaker 1: for them, but you know they they're looking at hey,
Speaker 1: we've gotta win these two games a week for us
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to go to the postseason. So
Speaker 1: you have two teams that are extremely hungry. You have
Speaker 1: two teams that have to have it, and the Jets
Speaker 1: are gonna have to be mentally tough to be able
Speaker 1: to win in this type of environment when you consider
Speaker 1: the Twelfth Man. But the Jets are proven that they
Speaker 1: are much better on the road actually than they are
Speaker 1: at home. Similar situations. Because both these teams are seven
Speaker 1: and eight. The Seahawks started six and three, the Jets
Speaker 1: started seven and four. The Jets are the eight seed
Speaker 1: in the FC. I believe right now Seattle might be no. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think Seattle's eight seeds and Jets are the ninth
Speaker 1: seed regardless. Bottom line is tomatoes two models. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you think about the matchup for the Jets defensively
Speaker 1: against the Seattle offense. You gotta give Jacksonville, Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson a lot of credit. The way they attacked
Speaker 1: the Jets. I thought they were better on the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. You don't see many teams attacked the Jets
Speaker 1: and say we're gonna run the ball twenty four times
Speaker 1: in an opening half the way they did. Seattle is
Speaker 1: a different offense. But you mentioned Walker before. He can
Speaker 1: run the football. They do have options. They have options,
Speaker 1: They have options on the outside. What do you think
Speaker 1: about the Seattle defense against the Jets, I mean the
Speaker 1: Seattle offense against the Jets defense. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna look at that, They're gonna look at that
Speaker 1: Jacksonville film, and they're gonna try and do the lies.
Speaker 1: That game plan and what that game plan was was
Speaker 1: having a lot of man beaters and understanding what the
Speaker 1: Jets were trying to do, and they just rubbed routing
Speaker 1: and cross rand crossing routes and got a mixed up
Speaker 1: with short motion yo yo emotion, using the linebackers and
Speaker 1: making them change strength. The Jets are gonna have to
Speaker 1: have defenses where it can be man and man. But
Speaker 1: it's where you end up when you talk about I
Speaker 1: don't like flopping the linebackers because what happens is when
Speaker 1: they run the ball at you and you're moving and
Speaker 1: changing strength. Because they change strength, it messes with your eyes.
Speaker 1: So a simple run it allows you not to be
Speaker 1: able to see your keys like traditionally you will be
Speaker 1: able to see your keys. Because you saw Quincy and
Speaker 1: you saw and you saw c J flopping as motion
Speaker 1: was coming left the right, and also Carter left and right,
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of pick plays a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, um plays that kind of forced them
Speaker 1: to kind of communicate post snap and pre snap. So
Speaker 1: I expect Seattle to do much of the same because
Speaker 1: they have a tight end that can move around and
Speaker 1: that can catch you know, the ball in space. When
Speaker 1: you think about North Fan and meanwhile on the outside,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have your hands full with the two outside guys.
Speaker 1: So they you know, Lock is a guy that moves around.
Speaker 1: You know he's he's a burner. So they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to make sure that they create a scheme. I would
Speaker 1: like to see them have a scheme with more hole droppers,
Speaker 1: bit up a cover three where they're inverting their safeties
Speaker 1: so they can help some guys if somebody runs by
Speaker 1: somebody and they can replace if they're running guys horizontally
Speaker 1: and trying to pick guys off. If you insert or
Speaker 1: safety in there, he can make somebody right. Mike White,
Speaker 1: he gets the rock. Joe Flacco is gonna be the
Speaker 1: backup quarterback on Sunday. You want a package in there
Speaker 1: for Straveler. Perhaps that helps the Jets inside the red
Speaker 1: zone because you refer to it, and again he can
Speaker 1: create some more space for you where that field shrinks
Speaker 1: inside the red zone. What would you say in terms
Speaker 1: of the opportunity that Mike White has in front of him,
Speaker 1: not only regular season eyes, but just looking at his career,
Speaker 1: what potentially could be. Well, he's a he's a free agent.
Speaker 1: So if he's able to manufacture, you know, great offense
Speaker 1: and also lead his team to the playoffs. And he's saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a potential starter out here. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not just some backup, some journeyman. You know, it maybe
Speaker 1: took me a while to figure it out, but listen,
Speaker 1: I could be a starter for you. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of teams out there that are in need a
Speaker 1: big quarterback. So all he needs is two teams to
Speaker 1: be able to force suggest to have to make a
Speaker 1: tough decision, and have to be able to reward him
Speaker 1: with a long term contract. I imagine it's gonna be
Speaker 1: wearing something to protect the ribs. Does that have any
Speaker 1: impact on you? You've probably never worn that before, but
Speaker 1: you know guys who have. Well, he's just he's just
Speaker 1: gotta be smarter, right, you know, I understand that. I
Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that he's willing to stand in the
Speaker 1: pocket to to to deliver the football. But it still
Speaker 1: weighs to be able to take care of yourself, to
Speaker 1: be able to chuck and duck what we call it.
Speaker 1: We've seen paid Manny time Brady do it. He has
Speaker 1: to understand sometimes he just has to throw the ball
Speaker 1: away and he doesn't have to stay in that pocket
Speaker 1: and take the type of punishment. But with that being said,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to, I think, really do some unique
Speaker 1: type of blocking. I think a lot of term protection
Speaker 1: so that if anything happens, the pressure is coming from
Speaker 1: the outside and not up the middle, where you know,
Speaker 1: the impact of a blow is a lot harder. And
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm him too, I'm selling I'm acting
Speaker 1: like Robert, I'm acting like man in Genobli. Somebody hit me.
Speaker 1: I'm calling out flopping like a fish. We saw Mac
Speaker 1: and Cheese do it early in the first match up.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying is you want to
Speaker 1: flop like a fish. Somebody hit you? A touch of you,
Speaker 1: you you you gotta you gotta over embellish, don't be
Speaker 1: super tough, because remember we just watched Phillips. You know,
Speaker 1: get it, get a yesterday, get a personal file for
Speaker 1: shoving Um Aaron Rodgers right to make sure that they
Speaker 1: call it the right way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If everybody else is used and you're a line, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't do it too. Sometimes a part of the job.
Speaker 1: This is not a World Cup recap, but Bart says, hey,
Speaker 1: ballishing might be part of the National Football League A
Speaker 1: little bit on. Yeah, exactly, I mean, that's that's what
Speaker 1: it is. So either you know when the Roman do
Speaker 1: with the Romans due, So you gotta flap like a fish,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I like, you chan't move
Speaker 1: for a little bit going to blue tent, you know,
Speaker 1: let him know, Hey, he's hit my guy late. I
Speaker 1: bet you, Hey, let's sign here because you've got a
Speaker 1: lot of family activities to take care of. Um, what
Speaker 1: do you think about c? J? Mosley said after the
Speaker 1: game against the Jaguars that we didn't match her intensity.
Speaker 1: It's a two parter because I'm looking ahead. These final
Speaker 1: two games start with Seattle. The Miami game doesn't matter
Speaker 1: unless you beat the Seahawks. We know that. Do you
Speaker 1: think just White's insertion back into the lineup should give
Speaker 1: the Jets a spark going into this game? And do
Speaker 1: you anticipate that they'll come out you know, it's more
Speaker 1: fire because I hate when people say you you've been
Speaker 1: in the locker room before and you've lost games, and
Speaker 1: people will say, well, you guys flat, And I think
Speaker 1: sometimes we use that term too much. But what did
Speaker 1: you say? I think CJS using the turn flat as well,
Speaker 1: because I mean you talk about early in the possession
Speaker 1: being able to get a turnover inside of Jacksonville's territory
Speaker 1: and how deflating it was to kick a field goal
Speaker 1: to lose Sharks, right, And I think you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you see like, oh, it's gonna be one of those days. Right,
Speaker 1: you know, you've been waiting for a turnover, you're able
Speaker 1: to get to turn over, and it's by your defensive
Speaker 1: leader that just got back. Nobody came out flat. What
Speaker 1: happened is the glame plan for Jacksonville cause hesitation, right,
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you're in the fight, you're in the game,
Speaker 1: you can't understand what's happening to you. I can see
Speaker 1: it playing this day because I'm from the outside looking in.
Speaker 1: I'm watching it as a TV analyst, see, but they're
Speaker 1: so close to it, and sometimes the coordinated is so
Speaker 1: close to it, it's hard to make those adjustments, you know,
Speaker 1: how to figure out when do I insert a whole
Speaker 1: player there? To insert the whole player would have helped
Speaker 1: them out a lot and put the pressure on the
Speaker 1: outside guys, because even when Trevor Lawrence kind of took off,
Speaker 1: it would have gave them an extra low defender so
Speaker 1: they can have eyes on them and also have one
Speaker 1: guy on both sides of the center so that he
Speaker 1: couldn't utilize and hurt them like he did with his legs,
Speaker 1: you know, So it wasn't that they were flat. Sometimes
Speaker 1: the other team on the short week just has a
Speaker 1: better game plan, and it's really tough to adjust on
Speaker 1: the fly, especially when you haven't had a whole week
Speaker 1: of preparation as a staff and as a team to
Speaker 1: kind of really get in on what they do and say, okay,
Speaker 1: well this is what they're doing today, this is how
Speaker 1: we have to play. And sometimes you gotta throw the
Speaker 1: entire game plan out and say, you know what, we're
Speaker 1: gonna play matchup zone and we're not gonna let them
Speaker 1: dictate to us. You know, short story, you know, uh
Speaker 1: Kaughlin and whenever we played the Giants, when we were
Speaker 1: with Rex used to do that all the time, especially
Speaker 1: when I was with Baltimore. They were yo your motion
Speaker 1: to get you to get your line into shift because
Speaker 1: they knew once the once the tight end came off,
Speaker 1: that means that we have a check and we alert
Speaker 1: change the strength and our linement would go. So they
Speaker 1: would short motion to the center and then our linement
Speaker 1: will move and then they'll hurry up and yo your
Speaker 1: emotion and snapped the ball and you get guys basically
Speaker 1: blocking themselves because they put themselves behind to the other side.
Speaker 1: But it's not it's not really a shift. So we
Speaker 1: had to start calling stuff that didn't was affected by
Speaker 1: yo yo emotion or short motion. And that's how we
Speaker 1: have to play certain teams. But you have to have
Speaker 1: the experience with each other to understand that. And because
Speaker 1: this group is young, because this group has a lot
Speaker 1: of free agents that just did this right, they don't understand,
Speaker 1: you know, how how to adjust on the fly because
Speaker 1: they don't have a collective experience. And a couple of years,
Speaker 1: teams can do everything and they're being seen everything, and
Speaker 1: then they'll be able to just do it on the fly.
Speaker 1: Remember we did this like this when this team did this,
Speaker 1: and they'll be able to tell each other. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: one of those games we're gonna pull out our old
Speaker 1: game plan. You know. That's why the goat is to go,
Speaker 1: because no matter what you throw at he was like, Man,
Speaker 1: the Ravens did this to me in two thousand two,
Speaker 1: I've seen this before. Or the Bears did this in
Speaker 1: two thousand five, you know what I mean. Or the
Speaker 1: Fountains did this when we played them in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of you know, like I said, vesteans
Speaker 1: are veterans, not because they've never made mistakes. It's because
Speaker 1: they've seen everything and they've learned from those mistakes, so
Speaker 1: they anticipate what's gonna happen. That speaks in the importance
Speaker 1: of continuity, and hopefully the Jets are gonna have that
Speaker 1: as we move ahead with this young talented roster. Do
Speaker 1: you anticipate a one score game Sunday? You No, Nope,
Speaker 1: because I expect body blows and then I expect explosion. Right.
Speaker 1: I expected to show off with like start to like
Speaker 1: a fill out process. But I guarantee both teams gonna
Speaker 1: have some tricks up their bag. Understanding, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of how both teams and philosophy believe that they're gonna
Speaker 1: use their knowledge against them. All right, alright, someone you
Speaker 1: gotta come out on top up. But maybe it's my knockout.
Speaker 1: That's what the mad backers saying. Hey, enjoy your day
Speaker 1: with your family and say say hello to your mom
Speaker 1: for us. We'll do yeah,