WEBVTT - A Conversation with Jets Pro Bowl CB Sauce Gardner (12/27)

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Well was the official Jets podcast. We were presented

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<v Speaker 1>by Winn Bett. Betty is a team sport but together

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<v Speaker 1>at win Back. Coming up, we'll be joined by bar Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>But first we're gonna start off with a mod Sauce

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<v Speaker 1>the Gardener. What has it been like your rookie year

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen games in now? Uh? Man, it's been great. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean everything that I prayed for, everything that I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it would be. You know, I can't really complain, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being able to just go out there on each and

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<v Speaker 1>every Sunday and go against the best man. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is true Blessing. How did you find out about the

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl invite? Um? Who was the first person with

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<v Speaker 1>Ald you? Uh? I want to say when our media people?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really yeah, but it was like the day it

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<v Speaker 1>was the day of type thing, like right, it was

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<v Speaker 1>right before you know what I mean, so all right

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<v Speaker 1>now he might be he might just be playing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had to watching on TV and I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>it like it was. That was great because that was

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<v Speaker 1>one of my individual accolades, you know, to the three

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<v Speaker 1>that I have, that's one though. So that was a

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<v Speaker 1>great start, man, that was a true blessed. What did

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<v Speaker 1>it mean to you even though you knew you had

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<v Speaker 1>the invite in your pocket when you were watching the

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<v Speaker 1>show and they actually announced your name and it was great. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it meant a lot. But I've seen when it was

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<v Speaker 1>introducing the the guys, I was trying to see like

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<v Speaker 1>if I was gonna be a starter or what it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be, you know. So I remember texting. I

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<v Speaker 1>text Jared, I'm like my pro boled starter and like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know the DBS just coming up, and he took

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<v Speaker 1>too long to text me. So I'm like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>they gotta hurry up. So now I've seen I was

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<v Speaker 1>a starter. I'm like, man, that's real cool. Man. Sure

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<v Speaker 1>you were a great college player, never gave up a

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown in your college career, And what did you anticipate

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the transition is concerned, because right now,

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<v Speaker 1>after team games, you leave the National Football League in

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<v Speaker 1>p d s and now you're starting to get treatment

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<v Speaker 1>like we saw we saw from a guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>a great player here in years past, ral Rievers teams

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<v Speaker 1>aren't throwing your way too often. Man, it means a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm you know what I mean to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to just do what I do as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I gotta just keep staying humble, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because at the moment I get too lax, too complace,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when you know team's gonna go at me.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, coming in, I definitely expected to be

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<v Speaker 1>targeted a lot. You know, I expected for everybody to

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<v Speaker 1>go to go at me each and every week because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a rookie, you know what I mean. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know some games that I haven't, I didn't really get tried,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but I didn't know who was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But now that's your a great sign of respect.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. For me, it's kind of a double edged sword,

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<v Speaker 1>right because after the Troy game, you're saying, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>was frustrated because nobody's even thrown my way, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>such a sign of respect. If they're not gonna target

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<v Speaker 1>your side, definitely, uh, it go hand. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted that to be my best game, you know, the season,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was Detroit. It was my hometown, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted I wanted to, you know, make a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of plays. But you know, I wasn't really just mad,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was like Nan that was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>the game for sure. What was it like for you

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<v Speaker 1>to go home over Christmas weekend and spend some time

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<v Speaker 1>with your family and also what kind of reaction do

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<v Speaker 1>you get from people going back home? Oh? Man, my

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<v Speaker 1>city loves me. Man, you know, growing up on the

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<v Speaker 1>East side of Detroit, you know, they always loved me. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I can truly say my family probably had the best

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas ever. You know, I just gotta get thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, to the Jets in the game of football,

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<v Speaker 1>because I honored so much and the things that my

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<v Speaker 1>family wanted, the kids. You know, I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>make that happen. So you know that was great and

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<v Speaker 1>truly blessed for that. Your mom sees, um, she means

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<v Speaker 1>so much too. What did you get hurt for this Christmas?

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<v Speaker 1>Your first one in the National Football Lake. I just

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<v Speaker 1>got a mink coat. You know, I heard my grandma.

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<v Speaker 1>They always wanted, you know, a mink coat. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was growing up, they always like, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get a mink coat. This is this and that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it real. You know, she she has pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much everything, you know, so it's not really too much

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<v Speaker 1>that I can get her. You know, she living, she

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<v Speaker 1>living a dream for sure. How much did you carry

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit with you on the field. I carry Detroit a

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<v Speaker 1>lot with me, you know. Growing up, I never lived

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere outside of Detroit. Like, for as long as I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Detroit, I always lived on the East side

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<v Speaker 1>of Detroit. I always lived in like the toughest areas

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up. It's the places called seven Mile on

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<v Speaker 1>the east Side. No, there was a tough area, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of violence going on. But you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why my mom is my road model, She's my

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<v Speaker 1>superhero because no matter all that violence that was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was strict, strict about it. She wanted me to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take a different route, take it to be

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<v Speaker 1>on a different path, you know what I mean. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was one of them people who always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be different. No, my mom is to tell me, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your friends they do this, they do that. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to do to be different? If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go where you want to go? You know. So

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I could only control what I could control.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, I was never gonna smoke or drink,

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<v Speaker 1>and I never did. I still never have, you know. Uh. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I prod myself and stuff like that, because I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>like in college, he's trying to prepress me, not prepresson,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, man, just just just drink, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. But you know, I'm a man of

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<v Speaker 1>my word. And uh no, That's why I appreciate my

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<v Speaker 1>mom so much because she was able to help guide me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on on the on the right path. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're so determined and you're seeing that success right now

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League or one thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Bart about is that mentality when you do

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<v Speaker 1>come from Detroit, as far as talking and how much

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of your game. Can can you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how early you get the gift to gab, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as getting after people in in between those

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<v Speaker 1>white lines. Um, I mean, if you're gonna be confident,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta just be confident. You can't, like I hate

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<v Speaker 1>those types of people would be quiet the whole time

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<v Speaker 1>and then they do something and then they get to talking.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're gonna talk, man, you gotta you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>start and finish with it, but you gotta back it

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<v Speaker 1>up at the same time. So that's something that like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say it's just a Detroit thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know in Detroit, you you gotta have it with

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<v Speaker 1>you where you it's gonna be hard to survivee you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the football field. Uh so, Yeah, who has been

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest guy for you to face this year? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you've you've seen really good receivers Justin Jefferson, jama Are,

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Digs twice, Tyreek kill. I mean the list goes

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<v Speaker 1>out and I don't know. Man. I said the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing in college at first, but I really don't know now,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, I didn't. I feel like I've win

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<v Speaker 1>against besides Davonte Adams, who I think it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>great receiver. I didn't win against pretty much every elite

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<v Speaker 1>receiver in the league. But I feel like one receiver

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<v Speaker 1>that goes on the radars Mary Cooper. Like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people they say jess and Jefferson, which is y'all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Jessin Jefferson, Tyreek kill. Uh Mary Cooper. I think Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper like he liked that when the come of running routes,

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<v Speaker 1>No Diggs, Gay Davis and one one one person who

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<v Speaker 1>I think don't get mentioned too much. It's Tee Higgins,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because of Jamar Chase but see Higgins, he

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<v Speaker 1>liked that, and I think he just uh got a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and receiving yards or something like that. Again, he

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<v Speaker 1>liked that for sure. But I think I went against

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much every elite receiver. He definitely did what some

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys say to you after those performances, the

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<v Speaker 1>guys seek you out after the field, after you guys

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<v Speaker 1>compete throughout the gamers, that kind of like, hey, after

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<v Speaker 1>that whistle blows, y'all go your separate ways. Nah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of them would come come up to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm personally not a guy that just goes looking for receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but you know, a lot of them got

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<v Speaker 1>respect for me. Diggs, he was a little upset the

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<v Speaker 1>last time we played. I don't know the reason, and

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<v Speaker 1>but he he walked away like as soon as the

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<v Speaker 1>game was over with, so we didn't get to really

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<v Speaker 1>chop it up. But like before the game, we chopped

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<v Speaker 1>it up. No, we already knew he was gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>at it. But yeah, but a lot of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>they respect me. I remember Chase, Uh, we chopped it

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<v Speaker 1>up out of the game. We just laughing, joking, but

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<v Speaker 1>like between the white lines, we just was going at it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we just talking. He broughtly the first like

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<v Speaker 1>elite receiver when I was like going at it with

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<v Speaker 1>like as far as like we both were talking back

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<v Speaker 1>for because I didn't know he was gonna be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you know where he was, but we was

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<v Speaker 1>going at it for sure. You guys, the New York

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<v Speaker 1>has had four players going to the Pro Bowl. Shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be at least five. I'm talking about your guy, d J. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just by to say that, like it hurt me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know as much as like that was one of

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<v Speaker 1>my individual goals. If I could, I would want him

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<v Speaker 1>to go. You know, he'd been in the league longer

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<v Speaker 1>than me, man, and he uh the way he approached

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<v Speaker 1>the game, the mentality that he has, the players that

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<v Speaker 1>he makes weekend and week out. I would get my

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl up for him, you know. Man. He just

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<v Speaker 1>worked so hard and I just been able to just

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<v Speaker 1>watch a guy like him bust his tail every week,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter if his body a little sword from the

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<v Speaker 1>last game, just just and that when we get back

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<v Speaker 1>in the building, he back to it. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he was the biggest Pro Bowl with the snub

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<v Speaker 1>that was him like he's the definition of that. Man U. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it hurt me, you know, saying like he was like

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<v Speaker 1>an arsenate or it hurt me, man, because I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know he liked that. What do you think this

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<v Speaker 1>week is gonna be like for him? Going back to Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>a Seahawks team that he played with and experienced his

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<v Speaker 1>career breakthrough. It's gonna be personal, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they let him go or whatever. Um So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be personal because I know if it was me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be personal. And I know the type of

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<v Speaker 1>guy that he is, so he gonna he gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>up to the challenge. He gonna want to compete, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like he always do. You're a big dude, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>not the biggest guy. But he's got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fight in him. How much do you appreciate the way

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<v Speaker 1>he attacks on the outside and why is he able

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<v Speaker 1>to win on the outside, because most guys, you know this,

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<v Speaker 1>if they have his body type, they're just throwing him

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<v Speaker 1>in the slot. Man, he first, he is strong guy.

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<v Speaker 1>When he's strong too, he got good forward three. He

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<v Speaker 1>gotta he know what's coming because he studied a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of family for it. Man, he got hurt. He got

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<v Speaker 1>that dog in him, you know, that's what it really takes.

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<v Speaker 1>He confident and he got the mentality like I was

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<v Speaker 1>bombed this one. He gave up a pass, he gave

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<v Speaker 1>up a catch. It was no no explosive catch, but

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<v Speaker 1>my man ran like a crosser. His man caught the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>He's talking and he like, do that again? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I'm like, I'm thinking, like, man, he

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<v Speaker 1>really got that dog in him, you know, to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to just say that, because when I give up kids,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, like, all right, I can't let that happen again.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was like do that again, So like not

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<v Speaker 1>as my mentality, right, but I got it from him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. There's like a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that I could not can learn from DJ Man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why George's being around him in the building, the

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the building, being able to learned from. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think about the fans and the way they've

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<v Speaker 1>gravitated towards you here and they welcomed me with open arms. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't complain, you know, being in a place like

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<v Speaker 1>New York, I knew it was gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure, you know, me having a name sauce, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew I was gonna have a lot of opportunities, but

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<v Speaker 1>I also knew it was gonna be a lot of pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>But like you know, I gotta just stay where my

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<v Speaker 1>feet are, you know, stay level headed, you know, keep

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<v Speaker 1>the main thing, the main thing. But I truly appreciate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the fans to support me, my teammates, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just being there for us, cheering us on the whole way.

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<v Speaker 1>You said at the top three individual goals, one of

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<v Speaker 1>them check that box. What are the other two? Can

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<v Speaker 1>you say? Man? All right? So pro bo Rookie of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year, Defensive Rookie of the Year, and are pro

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<v Speaker 1>I remember getting asked about what my goals were, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know like how big each and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>them was. I knew like defensive rookie year because like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a rookie, but I was his name and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>because I remember I used to just be like watching

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<v Speaker 1>Jen Rams and He's like, man, I'm this, I'm he

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<v Speaker 1>liked that. So I just said I wanted defensive rookie

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<v Speaker 1>here or pro and pro bo. I knew the probo

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<v Speaker 1>was because the game would come on but when I

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<v Speaker 1>really said and just thought about him, like, bro, that's big,

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<v Speaker 1>like Pro Bowl, Oh pro everybody can't make that, So

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<v Speaker 1>like show, what do you think about? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about the matchup this week? Ye Wolling on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side. And then he got Kobe Bryant, who you

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<v Speaker 1>played with your team with the Cincinnati and it was

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<v Speaker 1>two great players, two great players. Willing I think he

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<v Speaker 1>got like he got six interceptions. You know, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this thing. Uh, I've been sitting on social media.

0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.800
<v Speaker 1>They wanted us to go at it. I had made

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<v Speaker 1>a tweet. It was like I didn't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>his name. But with the pro bo situation, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a great player. I feel like the fans Seahawks

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<v Speaker 1>fans be trying to make it something it's not. And uh, Kobe,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my dog. You know, we locked in forever. No, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really be doing jersey swaps, but I feel

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be. He's gonna be somebody out do with jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna that's gonna happen every week. And another great receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>You could see two this week if the Lockett's back

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<v Speaker 1>in the lineup. But have you thought about potentially lining

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<v Speaker 1>up a few times against DK mcalf Oh, yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Man here, great fiscal receiver. You know, his body type

0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.760
<v Speaker 1>is kind of like different. You know, he ain't the

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<v Speaker 1>ever sized receiver. No, no, I'm looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been watching take You make a lot of play.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're very strong, speed, you got speed, runger routes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to it though. How cool is this

0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that you guys still have a possibility here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you've lost four in a row. Nobody's happy about that,

0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.240
<v Speaker 1>but there are two games remaining. You win those two

0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:49.320
<v Speaker 1>games and the Patriots lose or taie one, the Jets

0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.160
<v Speaker 1>are in the playoffs. And saw his Gardner's rookie season

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<v Speaker 1>and that's big. Um Cosalo always talked to us about, like,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, men were you are, you know, taking

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<v Speaker 1>them one day at a time, one week at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's all I can really do. You know, the defense,

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<v Speaker 1>we just keep chopping wood every day, man, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get better and better watching the film. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, taking them one week at a time. We're

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<v Speaker 1>trying not to get to ahead of ourselves. Amazon Prime

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<v Speaker 1>had the game last week. Judge Jack Wars. Richard Sherman's

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<v Speaker 1>part of that broadcast team. Do you have an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to chop it up with him at all? Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>definitely chopped it up. Man. We're just talking a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of ball before the game, joking a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're you're a funny guy. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, he was a great player when he was playing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'll still be watching this tape my coach

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<v Speaker 1>right now because older I believe he coach Sharon for

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<v Speaker 1>like a year, so he'd be sending me tape a sharm,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some good things to do in the run, game,

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<v Speaker 1>pass game, hot point the ball, doing a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I still definitely watch him. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>like about SHRM's film, Man, He just he knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was coming before before man, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>That was one thing I've seen, like, especially if he

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<v Speaker 1>was playing off coverage by certain splits, he knew where

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<v Speaker 1>I was coming. He knew about to anticipate, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>about the dn D. He knew what concepts to expect,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So those was the main things I was like, Damn,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you know that coach? Like? Man, he was

0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.680
<v Speaker 1>just he made love. He told me he made love

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<v Speaker 1>to the family. So, uh, you know, I probed myself

0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and doing the same thing. That's cool about the ral Rievers.

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<v Speaker 1>He's said, se my finals for the Pro Football Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame and he spent time with you guys this year.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it like? The interaction was reef man. It

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy man, right. He was a guy used to

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<v Speaker 1>go on YouTube type his name in and see him

0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.200
<v Speaker 1>shooting guys down. Before I even started playing corner, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's an always playing receivers. I used to see, like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I going to expect when I get to

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL because I thought I was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a receiver. But I always had the mental I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to the league. I was thought was saying, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's strong, but he ain't gonna be able to guard me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. Well, he was a great,

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<v Speaker 1>great guy, extremely humble. Like I said, he him and

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<v Speaker 1>him and Sharon had that similarity. You know, they watched

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of tape and they knew it was coming. Like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot who it was, but it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>a coach for the Jaguars or a guy that worked

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<v Speaker 1>for the Jaguars, and I guess he coached Sherman. He

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<v Speaker 1>told me like Sharm knew everything that was coming before

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<v Speaker 1>it him happened, like even to walk through, if one

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<v Speaker 1>of the Scott receivers wouldn't at the right split and

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<v Speaker 1>ran a certain route, he was stopping and tell him

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<v Speaker 1>to get where they gotta be, you know, because he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get the look. He was saying, like even

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<v Speaker 1>to walk through, he wasn't allowing them to catch no passes,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know he took He took a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>pride in that, but it was it was great to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to spend a lot of time with him

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<v Speaker 1>man and just watch what he did. Hey making that

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<v Speaker 1>transition to the pros. Obviously you still play a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of man, but you probably have played more zone this

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<v Speaker 1>year then since he asked you to do last year.

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<v Speaker 1>How have you been able to just really well? But

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<v Speaker 1>it's that because I think probably a doubter would come

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<v Speaker 1>out and say, yeah, Gardeners, really good man proceeded. Is

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<v Speaker 1>he gonna thrive in those zone situations? And you've shown

0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the ability to do that. You're natural and both um

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<v Speaker 1>I had to get thanks to my coach course owner.

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<v Speaker 1>You know him just being able to help teach me

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<v Speaker 1>how to play certain techniques, help teach me the scheme here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That's the main reason, because like in the

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<v Speaker 1>All season, I could have went anywhere else and worked

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<v Speaker 1>on some man off Man and some prison man. But

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<v Speaker 1>I stayed here and was getting worked you know, So

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<v Speaker 1>that way I could adapt to the scheme, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm able to do it at high level. Favorite

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<v Speaker 1>video game right now. I gotta say, call the Duty

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<v Speaker 1>wors on top five characters, Call of Duty All Time characters.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you mean by characters. Um as

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<v Speaker 1>far as Call of Duty, who would you want to be?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like the operators that you can play with. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so Snoop Dogg was in there. I don't know too

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<v Speaker 1>many operators, but you got you got Snoop Dogg. He

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<v Speaker 1>was cool. He had I think he had like a

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<v Speaker 1>leather jacket on a little top hat on his head.

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<v Speaker 1>It was nice. It was nice for sure. Uh. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a skin called a road skin, so like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>all black so you can't really see. You can have

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<v Speaker 1>in the corners if you have to. Uh, I like

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<v Speaker 1>the ghost skin. Uh. I don't know too many other ones. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know too many others, but we're going home

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<v Speaker 1>and play tonight. Oh yeah, definitely hop on there tonight. Twitch.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm being on Twitter day, probably tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I love doing that though. Man never to interact with

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<v Speaker 1>the fans, you know, that's great. Hey, I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you just missed your guys saw Us Gardner, who was

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<v Speaker 1>in here inside the studio. Well, you know when he's

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<v Speaker 1>represented for they, you know the city of Gooms, you

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<v Speaker 1>know quite quite well, right, Um, he comes from a

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<v Speaker 1>historical high school, high school that gets a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>respect out of Detroit. Brandon Netwich went there for a

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<v Speaker 1>brief moment, you know, Anthony Adams, a k A. Spice

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<v Speaker 1>Adams went there and because of his emergence, he's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of one up my my high school that comes from

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<v Speaker 1>Will Goosen and Jonathan Hankins. So we we need somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else in my high school to kind of come up

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<v Speaker 1>in the ranks so we can kind of square it even.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you surprised how quickly he's made This transition appears seamless.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy leads all defensive backs everybody in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League in p d s and sometimes teams aren't

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<v Speaker 1>even targeting him. Now he's getting the Reeva's treatment. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting a lot of respect. Early on. He's earned it,

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<v Speaker 1>right because of his length and its competitive nature. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said all the time was Bill, it lasts long,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was born, and you know he has a

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<v Speaker 1>competitive nature. He comes from a place in Detroit. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not just kind of throwing Detroit out there, but

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<v Speaker 1>let me explain to our our viewers how a football

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<v Speaker 1>game in high school or PEV League is played in

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<v Speaker 1>the cit of Detroit. You know, it's surrounded by all

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<v Speaker 1>the alumni that went there before. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 1>you went to the pros or you didn't. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I watched Gilbert Brown, Jerome business and guys come back

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<v Speaker 1>and like put money on little league games, or bet

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<v Speaker 1>for little league games, or stack the deck when it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for cap time. People take that personal because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not only it's like it's a territorial thing, right, It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're from this part of Detroit. We're better than this side,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So like I laugh all the time when

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<v Speaker 1>I go back to Detroit. You know, my mother is

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<v Speaker 1>at the picnic class of six sixty nine. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know which which year it is, well six, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just told me in the back of my m here

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<v Speaker 1>at sixty nine, right, and then I'm class and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's like so it's like that type of right, it's almost, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a territorial thing. Right. So it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>competitive because you have everybody that's been there before showing

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<v Speaker 1>up for these games, whether they come back to Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>or not. And it's real tense. It's almost like basketball

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>where the trash talking is at a whole new level.

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 1>That's why every person that anybody kind of recognized or

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 1>no from Detroit, whether's basketball, football, they talked too much.

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 1>It's not just that it's it's a Detroit thing because

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of how we grow up. We grew up

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:32.639
<v Speaker 1>in the pressure cooker where we're gonna tell you what

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do, and we're gonna do it. So the

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 1>fact that he was talking, he was yapping, he already

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.080
<v Speaker 1>knew the truth is the truth. So he already knew

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that he was the truth. So he didn't mind having

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>a confidence being bolt enough to tell you because when

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 1>you talk like that, you have to you have to

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>back it up. But if you're able to back it up,

0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 1>your name rise to the top. Like cream early because

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 1>they said he said it, and he did it right.

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.679
<v Speaker 1>So I wasn't surprised with his competitive nature because also

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.399
<v Speaker 1>like most guys from the Troy, whether Antonio Gates, Larry Foot,

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:06.199
<v Speaker 1>you know what happens is Jerome Vennis, right, whoever what

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 1>happens is he was overlooked. So he has that mentality,

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that attitude. But he was shunned because, whether he'll tell

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 1>you it or not, nobody first choices the University of

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati to play football. He went there with something to prove,

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and he made it out of University of Cincinnati. But

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't wait for the opportunity to prove to everybody

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>else that he was worthy to be at Alabama, he

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>was worthy to be at l S, U. Clinton and

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:33.720
<v Speaker 1>all those places, and that he wants to remind them

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>that they chose wrong. That's what is all about. So

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>how much do you love the style and the swagger

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that he brings to the table. Hey man, if you

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 1>give them some protein shakes, and you know what I'm saying,

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you found them up a little bit. You get the

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 1>same type of rhetoric that you heard from me, the

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>same rhetoric that you heard from Chris Jenkins. Right, Remember

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Chris Jenkins, big man talked too much, crazy all over

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the place. It's just it's just how we are built

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in Detroit. We don't mind being bold and braggadocious, loquacious.

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Speaking about bold and braggadocious and loquacious. I'll never forget.

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I use all my college words too. That's all I got.

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I got no more left never. Yeah, of course, because

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.359
<v Speaker 1>you didn't go to the University of Michigan or Michigan State.

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Hey listen, I'll never forget Floyd Mayweather, who's got some

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Michigan roots himself from the state of David Harry, David

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Hare's the only one from Detroit, by the way that no,

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>don't talk. It doesn't talk. That's right. So Floyd comes here.

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>You guys are having a practice, and after the practice, uh,

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>the guys in the locker room are literally having a

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>conversation saying who could take Floyd? And Chris Jenkins was

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>so mad because people were making an argument saying, hey, listen,

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>if Floyd stood up, he'd take care of you. Chris

0:25:56.440 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Jenkins saying, listen, dude, I crushed them with one hand.

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm three eighty and I have two and

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:08.399
<v Speaker 1>a half abs and whatever. He hit me with them,

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>but baby knuckles ain't gonna hurt me and he problems. Right,

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>They have weight classes for a reason. I agree with that. Hey, uh,

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>let's touch upon a couple of things here. Let's go

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 1>across the way and talk about DJ Reid. How disappointed

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 1>were you because you've been talking about DJ reads throughout

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the season, not just for a Pro Bowl case, but

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:34.959
<v Speaker 1>for an all pro case, all pro case. How disappointed

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>were you that DJ Reid did not get that Pro

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Bowl invitement? I mean extremely disappointed, But you know I've

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>seen this movie before. He's new to the conference, meaning

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:48.199
<v Speaker 1>that he's fresh to the a f C coming from

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the NFC, so the name recognition isn't strong. He's playing

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.400
<v Speaker 1>at a high level, but the team isn't in first

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.479
<v Speaker 1>or second place, so the eyes aren't on him like

0:26:56.560 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>they should be. Sauce has a fucking nickname you can't

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>man with a lot of a lot of hype, and

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 1>he's lived up to the hype and maybe exceeded the hype.

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>But DJ isn't a self promoter. He's a quiet guy,

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 1>so a lot of times that won't get the eyes

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.679
<v Speaker 1>on you write him talking about what he did too.

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I think Justin Jefferson was probably the first time we've

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>heard him speak and pound his chest about himself. Um.

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>With that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if the

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>voters voted him second team a first team All Pro,

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>which is way more important than you talked about Pro Bowls.

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowls are is a popularity contest. And just so

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 1>people out there that's listening to this podcast understand, players

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>routinely vote for people that they know isn't gonna make

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>it because they want their guy to make it. So

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't really take the players vote seriously. That's why

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 1>it comes down to the fans. The fans vote is

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>more about a popularity contest, the only one that should

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 1>be somewhat true. And I would be surprised if coaches

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>don't do this to a certain extent as well, try

0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 1>to screw it so it can come to their guys.

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 1>So it's an it's an unfair system, and it's not

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>really based on facts and performance. It's based on renton

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>name recognition. Example and exhibit A and B is the

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>fact that Marlon Humphreys has played well not Pro Bowl caliber,

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>that secondary is given up extreme high numbers in the

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>past game you talked about giving up to twenty one

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>point lead to UH Miami early in the game. They're

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>giving up some ha some nasty games where they struggled

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>as a pass defense. Right. And also, Damon Howard would

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>be the first one to tell you that he was

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>more shock than anybody that he was a Pro bowler

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>this year. Those are spot that you know, I would

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>be you know that I would suggest that DJ Reid

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>should have been in because those two guys didn't live

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>up to the expectation. Now you think about Sauce, you

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>think about Patrick Certain. They're well deserving because Patricks Certain

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>and that defense is amazing out there in Denver, especially

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>with the circumstances of Russell Wilson playing like he's played

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>this year. We're not gonna talk about the Broncos. We

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>we don't need any call in that Christmas stocking. I

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>love it when you take us inside the locker room though,

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and really are forth comment about the way it works

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.959
<v Speaker 1>and and turn and this example you're saying, hey, listen,

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 1>probo voting, sometimes they vote for the worst guy out

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>there because they want their teammate to make the Pro Bowl,

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>all right, So that makes a lot of sense. Speaking

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>of Christmas, A lot of presents under the Jets tree

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>this weekend. They get handled by Jacksonville at home, and

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>it looked bleak their playoff chances. What do you think

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>about the postseason possibilities now? After Miami loses to the Packers,

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>New England loses the Cincinnati. We know that Tennessee is

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>not gonna impact the Jets, but Cleveland lost. You have

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>tie breakers over Pittsburgh. You don't have to worry about them. Um,

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>the Las Vegas Raiders are not gonna make a miraculous

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>run right now. If the Jets win their final two

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>games Mats at all at Miami and the Patriots lose

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>or tie wants to either Miami or the Bills, the

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Jets make the postseason. Yeah, I mean, and you talk

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>about backing your way into the postseason. At some point,

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the Jets are gonna have to handle their business. Good

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>news on the front. Mike White is clear he's gonna

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>have an opportunity to play, and then the Jets should

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>be excited because this is the second lease on life. Right,

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and you talk about and you know, I'm familiar with

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>this scenario two Atlanta right, two thousand nine. You know

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Los to Atlanta, tough last second play. We thought

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>we were done and it turned out that, hey, we

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>had another opportunity. Now the Jets are gonna have to

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>figure out, you know, how do they take care of

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>their business? And you know some things that can serve

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>me a little bit in the show their their youth

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>was Guy's coming with Gritch outfits on guys coming with

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Bunny outfits on data. That just let me know that

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have the experience even though his Zama had

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>been in the playoffs the week before. But you have

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to understand it is a totally different level when you're

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>trying to go to the playoffs. The Jets have essentially

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>been in the playoffs the last three weeks and they

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>haven't had they had the opportunity to to win. I

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>bet you this week it's going to be more focused.

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 1>It's gotta be focused, it's gotta be everything you've got.

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Understand that the holidays in New Year's here, that means

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>absolutely nothing. Because you guys made a commitment to yourself

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>early earlier this year to be able to have an

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to shock the world, to be ahead of as

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>head of schedule, and you have to push all that aside.

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see any smiles on faces. I

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>want to see guys coming in business workman like piste

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>off with the opportunity to say, listen, that team over

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 1>there in Seattle has something that not only we want,

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>but we need. And I will not leave this place

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>without what I came for. And that's a w that's

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the lie that you have to have the entire week. Yeah,

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I love your energy. You must have got a lot

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>of sleep Christmas Eve and Christmas night. Listen, what's gotta

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>cheat offensively? Though? For the Jets, we know Mike White

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>is gonna return to the lineup. He will start against

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the Seattle Seahawks. But it's more than just a quarterback, correct,

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>So tell me what you're seeing by watching the Jets.

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>The last couple of weeks, you even can go back.

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>White moved the football, but the Jets scored one offensive

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>touchdown in Minnesota and one offensive touchdown in Buffalo. Well,

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>in the absence of Mike White, the Jets have been

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>looking for a lot of answers, and one of the

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>answers was trying to put Straveler up. And I believe

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 1>that gives him a unique ability to play situational football,

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and also it takes more time for other teams to

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>have to prepare for a wildcat type of package, and

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you can telle you to grow that tasting hill type

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>of the type of package. It's gonna help you on

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the goal line, right, it's gonna help you on the

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>goal line, gonna help you in the red zone, it's

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna help you with short yardage. Now you have a

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>situational player much like we have Brad Smith who can

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>ulize that skill set. But still what had the quarterback pedigree?

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Like you can't you can't expect struggler to play a

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>whole quarter or a whole half, but you expect him

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to come in and make defensive be on their hills. Now,

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the reason why, you know the rest of the team

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>struggles because it was a lack of respect for the

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>football acumen of the quarterback, which men mean that they

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>manned up on the outside and they brought an extra

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>man in the box and the you know, the effects

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>of that means that they you know, the run game

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>struggle with Mike White there. If they dare to put

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>eight or nine in the box, that creates a lot

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>of one on ones on the outside, and because he's

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>so good at getting the ball out of his hands

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and having pres not recognition, that should make the running

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>game even better. So the offense should flourish again because

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>now teams are gonna have to play honest and they're

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna have an opportunity, you know what, I mean, to

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>show up and show up. Secondly, I hope that part

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>of the narrative is that Hey, Sauce is supposed to

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:57.719
<v Speaker 1>be the rookie of the Year, but on the other side,

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a young man that has made a case for

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>himself to be Rookie of the Year. I believe his

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>name is Wooling and he's wallin right. So I hope

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that means that Sauce steps up and leaves no doubt

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that he's the better player, because he's going against Listen,

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Locking and metcalf is a handful and they give you

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>problems in different ways. Ones physically gifted, fast, strong, much

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>like t O, and the other one is fast and

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>quick like a Marvin Harris, with the ability to take

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:29.879
<v Speaker 1>the top off the defense. So I think this would

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>be a great opportunity for Sauce to show his versatility

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and being able to stop guys that are great at

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the receiver position but have different attributes. What's your take

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 1>on Gino? Why has he been able to flourish this season?

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Obviously he gets an opportunity that played his first four

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>seasons with the Jets. Feels like a lifetime of goal.

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 1>But his numbers are off the chart. Listen, he's been

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>in the same system. Yeah, low expectations and he inherited

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a great offensive line right the The Seattle Seahawks outside

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>of the Jets, probably had the best draft outside of

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.839
<v Speaker 1>the Jets this year when you talk about instant uh

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>productivity from young players. Their right tackle and left tackle

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 1>are home runs, and they got them in a draft.

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>They have a great running back, sound familiar. They got

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>a great running back and Kenneth Walker the second from

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Michigan State. They hit there right. They found every a

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 1>cornerback that played receiver in college, much like Richard Sherman.

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>So they knew that they, you know, for their system,

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>that type of player would be effective. They hit on that.

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>So you you look at what they've been able to

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>do and the fact that you know, because of the

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>trade they were able to get you know, fat able

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 1>to get a good defensive tackle. It plugged up a

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of holes. And now they listen much under like

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, this is going home, right, this, this

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>is going home. This is where Salad was born. Right,

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>this is when we first started to notice Robert salom Right. Yeah,

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>with Carroll that two exactly. So you talk about this

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 1>team is gonna be mentally tough. They believe in running

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the football. It's gonna be mere images of each other,

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna come down and who's gonna be able

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to make the plays? Right? Geno Smith has been able

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 1>to inherit a pretty good football team. And remember he

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the guy they thought they believed in Drew Lot

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>because they had scotting him coming out, and they believed

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>in him, and Gino Smith took the job and never

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>let go of it. He may be the long term

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>solution for that team. And they still have a little

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>bit to fight for now. I know it's still bleak

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 1>for them, but you know they they're looking at hey,

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>we've gotta win these two games a week for us

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to have an opportunity to go to the postseason. So

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>you have two teams that are extremely hungry. You have

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:41.839
<v Speaker 1>two teams that have to have it, and the Jets

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:43.879
<v Speaker 1>are gonna have to be mentally tough to be able

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>to win in this type of environment when you consider

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the Twelfth Man. But the Jets are proven that they

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>are much better on the road actually than they are

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:55.720
<v Speaker 1>at home. Similar situations. Because both these teams are seven

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and eight. The Seahawks started six and three, the Jets

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>started seven and four. The Jets are the eight seed

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:07.760
<v Speaker 1>in the FC. I believe right now Seattle might be no. Actually,

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I think Seattle's eight seeds and Jets are the ninth

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>seed regardless. Bottom line is tomatoes two models. Yeah, what

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>do you think about the matchup for the Jets defensively

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>against the Seattle offense. You gotta give Jacksonville, Trevor Lawrence,

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Doug Peterson a lot of credit. The way they attacked

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 1>the Jets. I thought they were better on the line

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage. You don't see many teams attacked the Jets

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and say we're gonna run the ball twenty four times

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 1>in an opening half the way they did. Seattle is

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>a different offense. But you mentioned Walker before. He can

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:45.280
<v Speaker 1>run the football. They do have options. They have options,

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>They have options on the outside. What do you think

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>about the Seattle defense against the Jets, I mean the

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Seattle offense against the Jets defense. I mean, I think

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna look at that, They're gonna look at that

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville film, and they're gonna try and do the lies.

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 1>That game plan and what that game plan was was

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>having a lot of man beaters and understanding what the

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Jets were trying to do, and they just rubbed routing

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and cross rand crossing routes and got a mixed up

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>with short motion yo yo emotion, using the linebackers and

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>making them change strength. The Jets are gonna have to

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 1>have defenses where it can be man and man. But

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>it's where you end up when you talk about I

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>don't like flopping the linebackers because what happens is when

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>they run the ball at you and you're moving and

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.879
<v Speaker 1>changing strength. Because they change strength, it messes with your eyes.

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>So a simple run it allows you not to be

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>able to see your keys like traditionally you will be

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>able to see your keys. Because you saw Quincy and

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:39.720
<v Speaker 1>you saw and you saw c J flopping as motion

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>was coming left the right, and also Carter left and right,

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:45.399
<v Speaker 1>and you know a lot of pick plays a lot

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>of you know, um plays that kind of forced them

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>to kind of communicate post snap and pre snap. So

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 1>I expect Seattle to do much of the same because

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>they have a tight end that can move around and

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:58.919
<v Speaker 1>that can catch you know, the ball in space. When

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you think about North Fan and meanwhile on the outside,

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have your hands full with the two outside guys.

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>So they you know, Lock is a guy that moves around.

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>You know he's he's a burner. So they're gonna have

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that they create a scheme. I would

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 1>like to see them have a scheme with more hole droppers,

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>bit up a cover three where they're inverting their safeties

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>so they can help some guys if somebody runs by

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 1>somebody and they can replace if they're running guys horizontally

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 1>and trying to pick guys off. If you insert or

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>safety in there, he can make somebody right. Mike White,

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>he gets the rock. Joe Flacco is gonna be the

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback on Sunday. You want a package in there

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>for Straveler. Perhaps that helps the Jets inside the red

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>zone because you refer to it, and again he can

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>create some more space for you where that field shrinks

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 1>inside the red zone. What would you say in terms

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>of the opportunity that Mike White has in front of him,

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.720
<v Speaker 1>not only regular season eyes, but just looking at his career,

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>what potentially could be. Well, he's a he's a free agent.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 1>So if he's able to manufacture, you know, great offense

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.439
<v Speaker 1>and also lead his team to the playoffs. And he's saying, Hey,

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a potential starter out here. You know, I'm

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 1>not just some backup, some journeyman. You know, it maybe

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>took me a while to figure it out, but listen,

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I could be a starter for you. And there's a

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of teams out there that are in need a

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>big quarterback. So all he needs is two teams to

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>be able to force suggest to have to make a

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 1>tough decision, and have to be able to reward him

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 1>with a long term contract. I imagine it's gonna be

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 1>wearing something to protect the ribs. Does that have any

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 1>impact on you? You've probably never worn that before, but

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you know guys who have. Well, he's just he's just

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>gotta be smarter, right, you know, I understand that. I

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 1>appreciate the fact that he's willing to stand in the

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.279
<v Speaker 1>pocket to to to deliver the football. But it still

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>weighs to be able to take care of yourself, to

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:00.320
<v Speaker 1>be able to chuck and duck what we call it.

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 1>We've seen paid Manny time Brady do it. He has

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 1>to understand sometimes he just has to throw the ball

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>away and he doesn't have to stay in that pocket

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and take the type of punishment. But with that being said,

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have to, I think, really do some unique

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.320
<v Speaker 1>type of blocking. I think a lot of term protection

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>so that if anything happens, the pressure is coming from

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the outside and not up the middle, where you know,

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the impact of a blow is a lot harder. And

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:28.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I'm him too, I'm selling I'm acting

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 1>like Robert, I'm acting like man in Genobli. Somebody hit me.

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm calling out flopping like a fish. We saw Mac

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.879
<v Speaker 1>and Cheese do it early in the first match up.

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm saying is you want to

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 1>flop like a fish. Somebody hit you? A touch of you,

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you you you gotta you gotta over embellish, don't be

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 1>super tough, because remember we just watched Phillips. You know,

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>get it, get a yesterday, get a personal file for

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>shoving Um Aaron Rodgers right to make sure that they

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 1>call it the right way, you know what I mean.

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 1>If everybody else is used and you're a line, you

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.839
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't do it too. Sometimes a part of the job.

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 1>This is not a World Cup recap, but Bart says, hey,

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 1>ballishing might be part of the National Football League A

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 1>little bit on. Yeah, exactly, I mean, that's that's what

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it is. So either you know when the Roman do

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>with the Romans due, So you gotta flap like a fish,

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. I like, you chan't move

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit going to blue tent, you know,

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>let him know, Hey, he's hit my guy late. I

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>bet you, Hey, let's sign here because you've got a

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of family activities to take care of. Um, what

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>do you think about c? J? Mosley said after the

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.879
<v Speaker 1>game against the Jaguars that we didn't match her intensity.

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a two parter because I'm looking ahead. These final

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>two games start with Seattle. The Miami game doesn't matter

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 1>unless you beat the Seahawks. We know that. Do you

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>think just White's insertion back into the lineup should give

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the Jets a spark going into this game? And do

0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you anticipate that they'll come out you know, it's more

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>fire because I hate when people say you you've been

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>in the locker room before and you've lost games, and

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 1>people will say, well, you guys flat, And I think

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we use that term too much. But what did

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>you say? I think CJS using the turn flat as well,

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>because I mean you talk about early in the possession

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 1>being able to get a turnover inside of Jacksonville's territory

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and how deflating it was to kick a field goal

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to lose Sharks, right, And I think you know, sometimes

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>you see like, oh, it's gonna be one of those days. Right,

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, you've been waiting for a turnover, you're able

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>to get to turn over, and it's by your defensive

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 1>leader that just got back. Nobody came out flat. What

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 1>happened is the glame plan for Jacksonville cause hesitation, right,

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes when you're in the fight, you're in the game,

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you can't understand what's happening to you. I can see

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>it playing this day because I'm from the outside looking in.

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching it as a TV analyst, see, but they're

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>so close to it, and sometimes the coordinated is so

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.279
<v Speaker 1>close to it, it's hard to make those adjustments, you know,

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 1>how to figure out when do I insert a whole

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 1>player there? To insert the whole player would have helped

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>them out a lot and put the pressure on the

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>outside guys, because even when Trevor Lawrence kind of took off,

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it would have gave them an extra low defender so

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 1>they can have eyes on them and also have one

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>guy on both sides of the center so that he

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.320
<v Speaker 1>couldn't utilize and hurt them like he did with his legs,

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, So it wasn't that they were flat. Sometimes

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the other team on the short week just has a

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>better game plan, and it's really tough to adjust on

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:27.919
<v Speaker 1>the fly, especially when you haven't had a whole week

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>of preparation as a staff and as a team to

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of really get in on what they do and say, okay,

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 1>well this is what they're doing today, this is how

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>we have to play. And sometimes you gotta throw the

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>entire game plan out and say, you know what, we're

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:41.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna play matchup zone and we're not gonna let them

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 1>dictate to us. You know, short story, you know, uh

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Kaughlin and whenever we played the Giants, when we were

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>with Rex used to do that all the time, especially

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 1>when I was with Baltimore. They were yo your motion

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>to get you to get your line into shift because

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>they knew once the once the tight end came off,

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>that means that we have a check and we alert

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 1>change the strength and our linement would go. So they

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>would short motion to the center and then our linement

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>will move and then they'll hurry up and yo your

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>emotion and snapped the ball and you get guys basically

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>blocking themselves because they put themselves behind to the other side.

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 1>But it's not it's not really a shift. So we

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 1>had to start calling stuff that didn't was affected by

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 1>yo yo emotion or short motion. And that's how we

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>have to play certain teams. But you have to have

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the experience with each other to understand that. And because

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>this group is young, because this group has a lot

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of free agents that just did this right, they don't understand,

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, how how to adjust on the fly because

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 1>they don't have a collective experience. And a couple of years,

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>teams can do everything and they're being seen everything, and

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 1>then they'll be able to just do it on the fly.

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Remember we did this like this when this team did this,

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and they'll be able to tell each other. Okay, it's

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:56.319
<v Speaker 1>one of those games we're gonna pull out our old

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 1>game plan. You know. That's why the goat is to go,

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>because no matter what you throw at he was like, Man,

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens did this to me in two thousand two,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen this before. Or the Bears did this in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand five, you know what I mean. Or the

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<v Speaker 1>Fountains did this when we played them in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of you know, like I said, vesteans

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<v Speaker 1>are veterans, not because they've never made mistakes. It's because

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<v Speaker 1>they've seen everything and they've learned from those mistakes, so

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<v Speaker 1>they anticipate what's gonna happen. That speaks in the importance

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<v Speaker 1>of continuity, and hopefully the Jets are gonna have that

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<v Speaker 1>as we move ahead with this young talented roster. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you anticipate a one score game Sunday? You No, Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>because I expect body blows and then I expect explosion. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I expected to show off with like start to like

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<v Speaker 1>a fill out process. But I guarantee both teams gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have some tricks up their bag. Understanding, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how both teams and philosophy believe that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>use their knowledge against them. All right, alright, someone you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta come out on top up. But maybe it's my knockout.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the mad backers saying. Hey, enjoy your day

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<v Speaker 1>with your family and say say hello to your mom

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<v Speaker 1>for us. We'll do yeah,