1 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Why do you love it? I know why I love 2 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: college football? Why do you love this sport? And after 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: you think about that, ask yourself, is that thing that 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: brought you to this sport? Is it still around in 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: as plentiful a supply as it was when you first 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: came to the table. Maybe you're forty, maybe you're fifteen. 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Whatever brought you here, is it still there. This is 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: another edition of the Late Kick Extra podcast. I'm Josh Pate. 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: We're wall to wall mail bag. We do this thing 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: every Tuesday at Late Kick Josh, Twitter and Instagram. That's 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: where you can submit the questions. We got over seven 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: hundred of them and two promises. One. I'm not going 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: to get to all seven hundred two. We're going to 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: get to as many as possible. And I'm asking you 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: a question this morning to lead things off, because that's 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: one of the questions that you asked me. We're going 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: to get to that one in a second, but let's 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: go ahead and kick it off here. Chris hit us 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: up and said, this is not about you at all, 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: just general media. Why don't more people in the media 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: who state very loudly how much they hate realignment not 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: hold people in power more responsible for it. When they 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: have these commissioners on pods or radio shows, why are 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: they not holding their feet to the fire. It's a 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: good question because see, Chris and I, if we had 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: our perfect world, we'd probably have a very very similar 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: vision of what we would want college football to be. 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: A lot of it's in the rearview mirror. You can 29 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: call that clinging to history, fruitless in nature. You can 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: call it whatever you want to. There are just some 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: things that were about the game in the past that 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: I prefer. There are a lot of things today that 33 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: I prefer over the way they were. So it's not 34 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: wholesale one side of the fence versus the other side 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: of the fence. But Chris is asking a good question. 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: I think a lot of you asked this question, so 37 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: I think he's speaking for a lot of you. When 38 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: you have a Greg Sanki on or back when Kevin 39 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Warren was the Big ten commissioner, why don't you just 40 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: shout in their face, Hey, how dare you? What gives 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: you the right to do this to this? What gives 42 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: you the right to go about realignment and putting the 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: almighty dollar first and poaching these other conferences and tearing 44 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: away at the fabric of the regionality that we love 45 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 1: about college football. I'll tell you my personal dvantage point 46 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: on it, as someone who has spoken to these guys, 47 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: some of them on the record in the past. What 48 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: stops me is twofold one, you'd never get them back. 49 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: But that's not the real reason. That's a thing that exists. 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm pretty sure if we had Sinki in the 51 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: studio right now and I were to just wag my 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: finger in his face and shout at him, I hate 53 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: what you're allowing to happen to the SEC and therefore 54 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: the rest of college football, I doubt we'd get him again. 55 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: Now if I'm right, if I'm being honest, that shouldn't 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: stop me. So here's the other reason there to me, 57 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: has to be an understanding of the position those guys 58 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: are in now. Chris and I've had it out about 59 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: this on Twitter before, so I know he's not going 60 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: to agree with this, But whatever, we all have opinions. 61 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: It is my view on this that some of these 62 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: guys may not necessarily love the moves they're making. That 63 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: sounds counterintuitive, right, Like you think, well, if Greg Sanki 64 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: is doing this, or if Jim Phillips, Well, the ACC 65 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: is not doing much of anything. But if Bob Bowlesby 66 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: before he was out in the Big twelve, if he's 67 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: doing something. If Kevin Warren before he was out in 68 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: the Big ten. You think if these Conference commissioners are 69 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: doing something that means they like it, And I think 70 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: it's the opposite in some cases. And I do have 71 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of guided information on this front. It 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: is my belief that some of these guys looked around 73 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: and understood reality and understood there's some things that we 74 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: may not want to do that we're going to have 75 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: to do. You know, if you live on the Gulf 76 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Coast and you see that there is a Cat five 77 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: hurricane out there brewing, no one wants to leave their home. 78 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: But as you pass me on the interstate and I 79 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: ask you, what are you doing leaving your home? Why 80 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: would you want to leave your home? You tell me 81 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: I had to do it before some thing happened to us. 82 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of these folks look around, 83 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: if you're Greg Sankie, for example, and understand the way 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: that you want the sport to look, the way that 85 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: you want the SEC to look. Maybe irrelevant in comparison 86 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: to where the direction of the sport is headed in general. 87 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: So now think about who you're accountable to. If you're 88 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: the commissioner of the Big Ten, if your commissioner of 89 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: the SEC, you're accountable to your member institutions. You have 90 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: to answer to ads and presidents and the like. And 91 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: if they find out that you had the opportunity on 92 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: the table to go and add Texas and Oklahoma and 93 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: you didn't because your personal preference was to keep the 94 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: SEC where it was, and then the Big Ten comes 95 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: in and adds OU in Texas, guess what happens to you. 96 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: You're out of a job because they would view that 97 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: as a dereliction of duty on your part. It would 98 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: be one thing if you were guaranteed if I don't 99 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: take OU in Texas, there's a guarantee, no one's going 100 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: to take. That would be one thing. But you and 101 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: I both know that's not the case. You and I 102 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: both know this is the real world, and you understand 103 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: if I don't take this prime rib now, the next 104 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: guy that comes through the door is gonna take it. 105 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of them are making those 106 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: moves out of an understanding of that there's an ideal world, 107 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: there's the utopian world that's the one we want to 108 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: live in, by the way, and then there's the real world. Now, 109 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: I'm also not ignorant enough to think that these guys' 110 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: intentions are just pure as the driven snow, and they 111 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: don't factor in money. Of course, they factor in money. 112 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: I know that. And look, maybe maybe I'm inflating them 113 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: too much. Maybe I'm erring on the side of idealism 114 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: a little bit too much. Maybe it is just profit 115 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: at all costs, maximization of P and L at all costs. 116 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it is that. I don't think so, but maybe 117 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: it is. But in any event, when I talk to him, 118 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: I'm talking to them with a baseline understanding along the 119 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: lines of what I just described to you. In other words, 120 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it does me any good. I think 121 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: it's a waste of time for me to grill Greg 122 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: Sanki on it would have been better for college football 123 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: had they left Texas and OU alone, because I already 124 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: know what his response is. Therefore, I know what my 125 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: response would be if I were him, and I think 126 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: a lot of us. If you were armed and equipped 127 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: with the information he has, and you were tasked with 128 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: the job that he has, I think most of us 129 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: would have made the same move. I don't have to 130 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: like it because I don't have his job, so I 131 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: don't have to like it. As an outside, neutral observer, 132 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: I guess I just have to accept it. What is 133 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: this thing we do here? What is this Late Kick Extra? 134 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: We are adding scores to our numbers every week, So 135 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: in ten seconds, here's what this is. It's not Late 136 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: Kick Live. It's not the show we do on YouTube 137 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: Sundays and Thursday nights, and we add a Tuesday show 138 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: during the regular season. No, this is mail bag. This 139 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: is strictly podcast. Only way to listen to this thing 140 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: all the way through is exactly how you're doing it 141 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: right now. So tell a friend, tell a family member too. 142 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: We appreciate it so much. Subscribe while you're here. Josh 143 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: loved the name, by the way. Josh hit us up 144 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 1: from San Angelo, Texas. He said, will the new era 145 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: of college football like nil and realignment and expanded playoffs? 146 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: Will that attract more fans to the sport. This is 147 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: the question that I really want us to ponder on 148 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: a little while. Whether you're listening morning, afternoon, evening, or night. 149 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: I want you to think about this for a second. 150 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I know what I love about college football. You know 151 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: what you love about college football. What is it for me? 152 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: It's regular season games in the fall, It's going to campuses, 153 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: camp I plural. Put an eye on the end of it. 154 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: It's plural. It is the leaves changing, it's the weather changing. 155 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: It is the coming together of people from all walks 156 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: of life. Some of them are alumni, some of them aren't. 157 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: And you're in East Lansing or you're in Knoxville, and 158 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: it's just a magical feeling. Now, you know, my personal 159 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: viewpoint on the sport is that is paramount and anything 160 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: after that is just secondary in nature. Even like conference 161 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: championship games and playoffs. I love all that, but it's 162 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: not the crux of what I love about the sport 163 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: because the way I see it is every sport out 164 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 1: there has a playoff, not every sport has what college 165 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: football has in the regular season. In fact, no other 166 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: sport does. So that's what I love about it. You 167 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: define what you love about it, but whatever your definition is, 168 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: put it in the blank and then ask yourself this, 169 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: do you think we'll have more of that thing in 170 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: the future or less of that thing in the future. 171 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of you are shaking your 172 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: head right now, a lot of you are a little 173 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: bit sad, got a long face on your complexion right now. 174 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: I think I have that with you. I think I 175 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: look ahead and I look at the direction that the 176 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: sport is going, and I ask myself, the stuff that 177 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: brought me to the table won't be And it's plentiful 178 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: a supply down the road. Now, certainly we will have 179 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: Saturdays in the fall. We will have that. I don't 180 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: think the value and the importance and the magnitude that 181 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: they had in a bygone era will exist in the future. 182 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that. I also think if you fell 183 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: in love with the more romantic amateurism aspect of the sport, 184 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: and you know, you play for the love of the school, 185 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: you choose where you go, they don't draft you. You 186 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: choose to be an Arizona State Sun devil, and you 187 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: go there and you play for pride and love of 188 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah again, second time I've used this word. 189 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: That's a little idealistic. It's a little unicorn and rainbowish, 190 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: But that's fine. I've never had a problem with that 191 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: that's when I was a kid, That's how they taught 192 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: me about college football. And I assume a lot of 193 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: you have been taught the same way. Well, when you 194 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: throw inil, when you throw a lot of what I 195 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: think we're headed towards in terms of revenue share and whatnot, 196 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: when you throw that in the mix, you're not falling 197 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: in love with that anymore. Doesn't mean you can't fall 198 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: in love with football. It doesn't mean you can't fall 199 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: in love with college football. I just don't think in 200 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: the future some kid is going to come along in 201 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: twenty thirty three and say, you know what, I'm seventeen 202 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: years old. I have decided I love college football because 203 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: those kids don't play for the money. Those kids just 204 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: play for the love of the game. No one's saying 205 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: that anymore. It's just it's not the way it is anymore. 206 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: So I guess the answer is, I don't think that 207 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: the new landscape of college football is trending towards adding 208 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: huge numbers, multiplying the mass that we already have here. 209 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that. Now that goes back to a 210 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: question we asked last week. Does that mean the game 211 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: is healthy? And you got one to two ways you 212 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: can look at that. You can either say no, based 213 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: on what I think we just agreed on most of 214 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: us anyway, or you can say the sport, the conferences, 215 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: the powers, that we are making a lot of money. 216 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: Therefore it's healthy. Doesn't matter if we're adding numbers, it's 217 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: just it's healthy. And I disagree with that, obviously. I 218 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: disagree with that sentiment. I think baseball dealt with this. 219 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: You know, Baseball's been in a crisis lately of trying 220 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: to speed up their game because why because attention spans 221 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: are shorter, Because why because they're trying to attract a 222 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: younger audience, because why because younger people are banned and 223 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: watching Major League Baseball. So for a while had big 224 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: media rights deals, and people were dumb enough to look 225 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: around the boardroom and say, we're making all this money. 226 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter if we're adding new people. It 227 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if we're bringing in younger viewers. I mean, 228 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: it matters. They weren't dumb enough to say it doesn't 229 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: matter at all, But I think they were dumb enough 230 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: to say, well, we're making money. That's the most important number. 231 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: It is. It is in the short term but over 232 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: the long term, if it's an investment, over the long term, 233 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: you've got to replenish the coffers. You know. I don't 234 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: know if you guys realize this, but people die. People 235 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: die every day. Some of them are college football fans, 236 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: some of them are Major League baseball fans. And if 237 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: you want to maintain the health of your sport, number one, 238 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: you have to be very callous to be able to 239 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: talk like I am right now. And number two, you 240 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: got to replenish. You got one that exits, you got 241 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: to have one that comes in. Hopefully you would have 242 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: one in a quarter that come in for everyone that exits. 243 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: And that's called growth. And I don't think college football 244 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: is necessarily positioned to do that now, obviously, and selfishly, 245 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong about that, And maybe I am. 246 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: Maybe there is a new facet that brings bigger numbers 247 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,119 Speaker 1: to the table. Who knows. Maybe I'm in the minority, 248 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: and a ton of people will just love an expanded 249 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: playoff like that will be the impetus for bringing a 250 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: ton of folks to the table. I hope that that's 251 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: the case. From my survival, I hope that's the case. 252 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know that we've best positioned the sport 253 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: to grow. And I don't say we. I shouldn't say 254 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: we because a lot of things that are happening right 255 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: now are kind of out of our control, aren't they. Yeah, 256 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: we're we're in this together in that vein next question 257 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: on this lovely Tuesday morning, as we record here, it's 258 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: been a very very high pressure situation in the office 259 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: already today. By the way, I'll tell you more about 260 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: that later. Zach hit us up. He said, since you've 261 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: been doing the change Thing segment, if you could go 262 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: back in your career or the creation of the show, 263 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: what is one thing you would have done differently and why? 264 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: From Aurora, Colorado. I don't have a lot of regrets, 265 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: you know. I do have one thing that's just glaring. 266 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: And I've talked to you guys about this before. I've 267 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: talked to some of you one on one about this before. 268 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: I do consultation sessions. Sometimes we're not doing them right 269 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: now before anyone asks, but I do those sometimes, and 270 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: a lot of you will ask a question like this, 271 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: and I'll say I wasted a lot of my early 272 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: twenties just doing nothing. I'm not saying you have to 273 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: have life figured out in your early twenties. But I 274 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: did nothing. I was in college for a little while 275 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: and I was wasting time, so I dropped out of college. 276 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: I eventually went back, but I dropped out of college 277 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: and I worked jobs I had no passion for, and 278 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: I at some points wasn't even employed. And I just remember, 279 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: like I have such a vivid memory of this. There 280 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: would be nights, nights, Jesse Colin, I've never told you 281 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: this before. There would be several nights where I would 282 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: just like meet up with a couple of buddies at 283 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: Crystal off of Manchester Expressway in Columbus, Georgia. Will we 284 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: just been there till like two o'clock in the morning, 285 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: not even getting in trouble, nothing like that. We're just there, 286 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: why because we don't have to be up until noon 287 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: the next day. And it's just wasting away some really 288 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: valuable inventory in your life. You're early to mid twenties, 289 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: you're just wasting that away. So here's the flip side 290 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: to that. I ended up being able to make the 291 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: best out of it, not by myself. I had a 292 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: lot of folks that helped me. And you're never gonna 293 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: make it if you don't have folks help you. So 294 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: really blessed to be in the position I'm in now. 295 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: But I think I always think to myself, not out 296 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: of regret, but out of curiosity, what would have happened, 297 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: or maybe what would have happened quicker if I would 298 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: have gotten my act together earlier. Here's the flip side 299 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: to that coin, though, if I would have gotten my 300 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: act together earlier, maybe I don't come across the people 301 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: who I formed relationships with a little bit later in 302 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: my twenties. Maybe I dive into an industry before the 303 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: digital media revolution sort of happens, and what I'm tailor 304 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: made for, which is I think what I do now 305 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: ends up not being what I did, So there's no way. 306 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: It's like it's like throwing a bunch of spaghetti against 307 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: the wall, trying to figure out how the world works, 308 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: the butterfly effect of the world and how it works. 309 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: But in a general sense, I would say being able 310 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: to get like that three or four or five year 311 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: chunk of my late teen early twenties portion of my 312 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: life back to just invest time instead of spend time. 313 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: There are only two things you can do with time 314 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: you can spend it, and that's what I was doing. 315 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: You just don't get that back, or you can invest it. 316 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: And I did not know that when I was in 317 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: my early twenties. But as for the show itself, I mean, 318 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: we're where we are now for a reason, and it 319 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: worked out. And again, I'm really happy that we're where 320 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: we are now. But oh oh oh, here's the other 321 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: thing about Crystal I was gonna tell you not that 322 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: they're sponsoring the show. I charted how much fast food 323 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: I ate in one year. I still remember the number vividly. 324 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: I knew that I was eating terribly. Luckily I have 325 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: fast metabolism, or I would have been on an episode 326 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: of My six hundred Pound Life. So breakfast, lunch, and dinner, 327 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: like we count anytime I go to a fast food restaurant. 328 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: I ate fast food four hundred and ninety times in 329 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: one year. Yes, pause for reaction for ninety. So then 330 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: I lowered it to like nineteen. I almost like cold 331 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: turkeyed fast food. But it was touch and go there 332 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: for a little while. Bless my congested heart, it was 333 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: a tough tough time there for a little while. Uh So, yeah, 334 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: there you go. That's nutrition. Advice and Life Advice. Brandon 335 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: hits us up and says the top expansion target for 336 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: the SEC is North Carolina. Of course, but what is 337 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: the argument against Arizona and Washington being two and three 338 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: on the list. Since the Big expanded west, the SEC 339 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: needs a coast to coast footprint. Phoenix and Seattle are 340 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: huge TV markets, and Brandon is from Nashville, Tennessee. They 341 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: don't need to is what stops them? Who says they 342 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: need to do something just cause the Big ten did something? 343 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: Who says the SEC needs to expand at all? And 344 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: if they do, who says they need to expand further 345 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: west than Columbia, Missouri, or Norman, Oklahoma or Austin, Texas. 346 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: I think they're already far enough west. This TV market 347 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: stuff is so overblown when it comes to college expansion, 348 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: it's so overblown. Brandon, I want you to think about this. 349 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: You're not a media consultant. You don't work in this industry. 350 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: That's not a knock on you. Stay out of it. 351 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: Do exactly what you do, is my advice. But I'm 352 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: saying you're not a media consultant. To follow up with this, 353 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: what makes you talk about TV markets? What makes any 354 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: fan who's just a fan talk about media markets. It 355 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: doesn't impact you at all, never impact you. You watching 356 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: a college football game on Saturday and understanding which metered 357 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: markets it's thriving in and what kind of share you're 358 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: getting in the Birmingham or Phoenix TV market. It doesn't matter. 359 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: You just heard some folks talking about it, and all 360 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden, let's just be real with each other 361 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: for a second, because I do this too. You want 362 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: to sound smarter than everyone else in the room, so 363 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: you just start talking about TV markets. Pro wrestling fans 364 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: drive me up the wall doing this. Everyone wants to 365 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: be smart to the business. No one wants to just 366 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: sit back anymore and enjoy the show. Everyone's got to 367 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: go to a website or a message board. Everyone's got 368 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: to be on the inside. They got to be a 369 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: smart mark. And I hate it. It's part of what 370 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: drove me away from watching pro wrestling. So in college football, 371 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: the SEC doesn't need to expand further west. They don't 372 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: need Seattle, they don't need Phoenix. What they need to 373 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: do is focus on the thing that's the most precious commodity, 374 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: and that's not media markets. Especially once you're established. The 375 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: most precious commodity for the SAC would not be adding 376 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: media markets. It's crystallizing rivalries. Rivalries are the most precious 377 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: commodity in college football television inventory. And that's my opinion. 378 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: But I'm not the only one who feels that way. 379 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: Bert Mangus is the head of I think content for ESPN. 380 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: I heard him talking about this recently. He said, actually, 381 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: the kind of the same thing I'm saying. He said, 382 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: all these folks talking about TV market, TV market TV, 383 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: go get rivalries. That's why a lot of people were 384 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: upset when OU left for the SEC and you find 385 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: out Bedlam's not going to happen anymore, or for a 386 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: long time. We had A and M in the SEC, 387 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: and they're not playing Texas anymore. That's what's valuable. No 388 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: one cares, no one, at least amongst us. No one 389 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: cares whether or not you're in the Dallas TV market. 390 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: Go get rivalries. If you want to make a move, 391 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: go get Florida State. Now I know it's a lot 392 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 1: hard than that. I'm saying, if you could do what 393 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: you wanted to do, I'd much rather have Florida State. 394 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: You know why, because I get Florida State FSU in 395 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: my conference, I get FSU Georgia. Those are border teams. 396 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: I could create new rivalries. It doesn't matter that the 397 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: Jacksonville or Tallahassee media markets aren't as attractive. The product 398 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: is attractive. That's what the product is attractive. In other words, 399 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: think about this. If you live in Denver, so you're 400 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: not in the Phoenix market. If you live in Sacramento, 401 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,239 Speaker 1: if you live in Rockford, Illinois, second Rockford shout out 402 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: in as many weeks. If you live in Rockford, Illinois 403 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: and you're just agnostic to all this conversation, you just 404 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: want to see good content. What's more likely to make 405 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: youtune in Arizona State versus Florida, Arizona State versus Georgia, 406 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: or Florida State versus Florida, Florida State versus Georgia. The 407 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: answer is obvious. So yeah, you could be penny wise 408 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: and pound foolish and you go grab Seattle and grab Phoenix. 409 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: Or you could make an effort to get the Clemsons 410 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: or Virginia Tech's or Florida State or Miami's of the 411 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: world and keep a little bit, just a modicum of 412 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: your regionality. But maximize the rivalries. That's what you want 413 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: to have. So not to be mean probably sounded mean. 414 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: Proud Emily Proud told me I was being a little 415 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: mean earlier today because I said somebody's uh, somebody's ping 416 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: pong game wasn't up to snuff in the office, and 417 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: here's the problem. They proceeded to lose the next match 418 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: twenty one to one. So was I right or was 419 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean? Or was I both? I think we need 420 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: it sometimes, Jake. Next up as commissioner, Jake asks, what's 421 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: your first action to purify college football from Smith Station, Alabama, 422 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: home of the Panthers. I got one for you, Jake. 423 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with the playoff, So you 424 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 1: can all breathe easy. We're playing on grass. If I'm 425 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: college football commit day one executive order, I'm signing it, 426 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: I'm stamping it. I'm having my assistant Bradley take it 427 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: out to the masses. Get rid of turf. You got 428 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: trillions and quadrillions of dollars being pumped into the sport. 429 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: Go get real grass. You do whatever it takes. If 430 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: you need a stipend, if you need to be subsidized 431 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: from my office for the greater good of the sport. 432 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: I will be willing to help you out. I'm tired 433 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: of turf. I'm tired of watching injuries happen on it. 434 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm tired of the unnatural feel of it. At least 435 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: it's not astro turf. At least it has a little 436 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: spring in it. But we have data that one hundred 437 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: and fifty percent backs up what I'm saying. You are 438 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: more likely to shred your knee on turf than you 439 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: are on grass, So the health risk doesn't add up. 440 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: The visual of grass is a lot better. And I 441 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: guess some people come back to me and say, well, Josh, 442 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: it's so hard to maintain. It's not your backyard. It's 443 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: not memol with a garden hose. These people, these universities 444 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: have grounds crews, grounds cruise. They get to do something, 445 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: They get to buy product you don't get to buy. 446 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: So not all of you have Kentucky rye in your backyard. 447 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: They can have it. And I don't really know much 448 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: about grass, so anyone in the world of horticulture is 449 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: gonna rip me to pieces on this. But you get 450 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: the spirit of what I'm saying. When I tackle you, 451 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: when you slide for a first down. When I put 452 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: you on your back, you ought to have a stain 453 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: on you when you get up. Now, I'm watching these 454 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: folks play on these turf fields, and the ones who 455 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: make it through, especially in the early season when it's 456 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five degrees on field level, the 457 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: ones who don't get spent from dehydration and don't suffer 458 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: from heat exhaustion or a torn acl they look clean 459 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: as can be. I have no clue they even played 460 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: grass grass. That's how you make college football more pristine. 461 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: Play it on grass the end day one when I'm 462 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: college football commissioner. Next up, short and sweet there. I 463 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: know that maybe we wanted to stretch that a little 464 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: bit of unity, but we went short and sweet on 465 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: that one. David Ernst from Instagram. Yes, yes, we are 466 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: featuring several Instagram questions on the show today too. David asked, 467 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: how come you don't listen to music while you work out? 468 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: Some of you think I'm weird because I don't listen 469 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: to music, but I don't. There's purpose behind it. Put 470 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: a lot of thought into it. Actually, it's not because 471 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: I'm poverty. I could afford earbuds if I really wanted 472 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: them that what do they cost, like three hundred dollars. 473 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: I don't need three hundred dollars. I already have three 474 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: hundred dollars, so I could afford them if I really 475 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: needed them. I don't listen to music. There's a philosophical 476 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: reason I don't, and it's because I don't think you 477 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: need external factors to focus you. Ever, I don't think 478 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: you need it. I think you lean on it as 479 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: a crutch. And so what I choose to do in 480 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: the gym is, of course a physical workout, but I 481 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: also think it's a mental workout. You're basically doing two 482 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: birds with one stone because you're forcing yourself to focus. 483 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: How often do you do that during the day. Think 484 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: about how often you use an external crutch to bring 485 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: something out of you that's already in you. I don't 486 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: need music to motivate me. By the very definition of 487 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: what you're relying on that music to do. You're relying 488 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: on that music in some cases to focus you, which 489 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: your mind can't possibly do if it wasn't already capable 490 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: of doing it without the music. And the other thing 491 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: is you want it to pull energy out of you, 492 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: which also your body can't produce if it wasn't already 493 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: in there. The music's not bringing anything out of you 494 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: or putting anything in you that wasn't already there. That's 495 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: the first thing. And the second thing is it is 496 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: a full body workout, mind and body to force yourself 497 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: to do that. Those are two reasons. You may laugh 498 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: at that, but I'm dead serious about that. You find 499 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: because I found this, it pays dividends out of the 500 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: gym you all of a sudden, if you make a 501 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: habit out of that, you realize, Wow, I've got like 502 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: twenty percent more focus and ability to focus and tunnel 503 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: vision and get yourself in that elite like ninety fifth 504 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: percentile of raiz or sharp tunnel vision focus. You need 505 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: to thrive in an environment, all of a sudden, it's 506 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: easier to get yourself there. If you're wondering why you 507 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: have trouble focusing, well, ask yourself, am I relying on 508 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: crutches to focus me? In other walks of life? And 509 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: if you are, you may want to try this. And 510 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: if you get in the gym and you're thirty minutes in, 511 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: you're saying, ah, man, I need music, I need those headphones. 512 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: I need those earbuds. Do you need them? Do you 513 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: really need them? Or is there something magic in those earphones? 514 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: Is there something magic in that headset? Of course there isn't. 515 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: Even if you're listening to the fleetood Mac. Of course 516 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: it's not magic. Well it's magic, but it's not magic 517 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: in a sense that it can bring something out of 518 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: you that's s narted in there. So that's why I 519 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: don't listen to music. Also, a nice little bonus, you 520 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: hear some really really good conversation. Some of the best 521 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: conversations I've heard lately has been at the gym. I mean, 522 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: there's a girl over there right now. She does not 523 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: need to be with the guy she's with. Treats are 524 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: terribly really under delivered on Valentine's And if you're not 525 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: coming through on Valentine's, which is the fakest day of 526 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: the year, He's not going to come through for you. 527 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, I want to say something, 528 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: but hoops to my hoops to my to say something. 529 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: It's not my place. But I'm well aware I'm read 530 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: in on her situation in life because I don't wear earphones. 531 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: I don't wear earbunes. Next up, how many field stormings. 532 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: Have I seen at games? Good question. It turns out 533 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't even remember all of them, so too many 534 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 1: to count, but I do remember several of them. One 535 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: of the ones that's most memorable, I don't know that 536 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: the world would just readily have come to the top 537 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: of their mind is Baylor Oklahoma two years ago, twenty 538 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: twenty one season. That was in Waco. It's my first 539 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: trip ever there. Oklahoma's in town. Lincoln Riley still the 540 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: head coach at Oklahoma, and they upset Oklahoma did the 541 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: Baylor Bears a week after they had lost to TCU, 542 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: by the way, and so it's the biggest win of 543 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: Dave Randa's career. And we're there. I'm actually I mean, 544 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: I've got Eyejosh footage of all this. By the way, 545 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: I frequently relive it. A lot of you go to 546 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: family reunions after the football season's over. I just watched 547 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: eye Josh footage of games I've been at. So we 548 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: were out there. It was a noon kickoff, you know, 549 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: my affinity for big noon kickoff. Even though it's not 550 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: the company I work for, so it's still like Bright Skies. 551 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: It's three or three point fifteen in the afternoon, game's 552 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: already over sun as far as the eye can see, 553 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: not a cloud in the sky, well, maybe a few 554 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: high cirrus clouds, but it was a beautiful day and 555 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: so that was a fun time. And afterwards I remember 556 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: Dave Randa telling us he was disappointed because he, hey, 557 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: what did we just talk about. He had to have 558 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: a loss the week before to get that out of 559 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: his team. He's talking about exactly what I just told you. 560 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: I didn't script it this way. He's talking about exactly 561 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: what I told you about the gym. They lost the 562 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: week before. Something external happened and that motivated them to 563 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: play at a higher level than next week than they 564 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: otherwise would have. And he said, I'm disappointed in that 565 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: because if we needed an external factor to bring that 566 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: out of us instead of us just doing it in 567 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: process fashion, then that means I don't have this team 568 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: where I need to have him. He wasn't joking around. 569 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: He was dead serious about it. He should be. This 570 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: past year, some of the most iconic footage in Ijosh 571 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: history the goal posts being taken out of kneelan one 572 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: of our fine college football citizens surfing on the goal 573 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: post as it heads to the river just an unbelievable time. 574 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: Director Colin was with me. Director Colin was on site, 575 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: and Director Colin's waited a long time to see that happen. 576 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: You can't imagine what that night was like when Tennessee 577 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: beat Bama. I mean, some of you who were at 578 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: the game are teenagers. Some of you, like have your 579 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: learner's license, some of you have your regular license, and 580 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: you don't have recollection of the last time Bama had 581 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: gone down to Tennessee. So it was a huge deal. 582 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: I told you there was. There were some folks who 583 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: had to be treated for smoke inhalation. Even though it 584 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: was an outdoor venue. Some people had to be treated 585 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: for it because there were so many people on the field. 586 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: The cigar smoke was so thick. I'm not making this up. 587 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: They had to have people cared for for smoke inhalation. 588 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: What else do I remember? People pulled up big chunks 589 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: of sod, Remember that column. People pulled up chunks of 590 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: sod from the field. You guys don't get to see 591 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: what we get to see. I'm there two hours after 592 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: it's over and the field has been cleared. You can't 593 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: imagine the debris so much random stuff on the field, 594 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: and so many random chunks of the field pulled up. 595 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: So I remember that. Oh, the Iron Bowl in twenty seventeen, 596 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: Auburn and Alabama. That was in Jurdenhair Stadium and Malson. 597 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: That was the year where Malson almost got fired. Then 598 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: he beats Georgia, then he beats Alabama and they go 599 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: to the SEC title game and they stormed the field 600 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: that night in Jorden Hair Stadium. And that's the one 601 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: where I I felt it was come in immunity, and 602 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: so I went up the tunnel. Now I got off 603 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: the field, so I wasn't on the field for that. 604 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: I exited the field cowardly. I don't do that anymore, 605 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: but I did them. What was another one? There was one? One? 606 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, how do I forget this one? Ohio 607 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: State Michigan last year two years ago. I keep thinking, 608 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: we're still in twenty two two years ago? Where were 609 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: we and Arbor, Michigan? What was it snowing? And that 610 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: was a little drought that came to an end too. 611 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: Michigan beats Ohio State, and buddy, they came on the 612 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: field full force and the snow just kind of added 613 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: to the scene, and you got like Juwan Howard and 614 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh embracing Harbaugh as awkward as ever, but equally 615 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: beautiful as ever. That was one kind of like this 616 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: Tennessee game this last year. I know it bleeds through 617 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: on TV, but if you're there, you feel just the 618 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: raw emotion in person, and you're trying to soak it 619 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: in because you know it doesn't matter. If you cover 620 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: the sport fifty years, you don't get many of those moments. 621 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: And we were lucky enough to get a couple of 622 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: them last year, a couple of them the year before. 623 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: So field stormings, they're gonna be less and less frequent 624 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: because I think, I mean, let's be real now, a 625 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: lot of these conferences are realizing it's a big danger. 626 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm surprised we still do it. I'm glad it happens 627 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: in moderation. I don't think you should do it every week, 628 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: but I'm glad it still happens in moderation. It is dangerous. 629 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: There is risk that you have to associate and have 630 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 1: to accept with it. I don't think that conferences are 631 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: going to be willing to accept that risk much longer. Ironically, 632 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: as they put players on the field for sixteen or 633 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: seventeen games. That's the risk they want to mitigate. It's 634 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: such so hypocritical, but it is what it is there. 635 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, field stormings are crazy. You feel you feel 636 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: like you're in danger, and you are, but you also 637 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: you never feel more scared slash more alive when you're 638 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: surrounded by like a ninety thousand people clad in orange, 639 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: puffing on cigars, half of them never smoked before. Some 640 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: of them are pulling up chunks of sod. The others 641 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: are over there tearing down the goalpost, taking it out 642 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: and throwing it in the river. I dare you to 643 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: find me that on Sunday. You're not finding that on Sunday. 644 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: That is Saturday Special. That is Saturday Night Special. Knoxville, Tennessee, 645 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: and Auburn, Michigan, Waco, Texas, Auburn, Alabama. That's college football. 646 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: Probably be a YouTube short later. All right, let's roll 647 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: merrily along. Good questions, a nice variety of questions. William 648 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: asked if I can share a storm chasing story, Well, 649 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: I got a lot of them. Someone else asked, we 650 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: had a lot of storm chasing questions. Someone asked if 651 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: I've ever seen a tornado in person? Have I seen one? 652 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: I've seen seven, and a lot of my brethren out 653 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: there who get to chase every week have seen far 654 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: more than that. So I'm gonna be out on the 655 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: road again this spring. Zach and Frankie Pinpoint. So yeah, 656 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: I could give you one. I've given you the one 657 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: about Beauregard. That was a really, really big one. I 658 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: can tell you we were in west Point, Georgia, but 659 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: we we met in west Point. This is a few 660 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: years ago. We met in west Point, but a lot 661 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: of us set out from Auburn, Alabama that day Opalaika, Auburn, Alabama, 662 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: and we go up I eighty five to west Point 663 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: because we've circled that is kind of be in our 664 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: battle zone. We think that's where the action is gonna be. 665 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: And lo and behold, tornado warning Lee County, Alabama. That's 666 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: where Auburn and Opelika is. E F two. Tornado touches 667 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: down in and around Auburn and Lee County and we're 668 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: having to watch it on live stream. Now, that's not 669 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: the bad part, although that's pretty bad. Yours truly was 670 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: working in local news at the time, but I was 671 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: just off. Bradley, were you with us this day? No, no, no, no. Bradley, 672 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: who works here now, was in the control room back 673 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: at home Base WLTZ, the news station that we were 674 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: working at in Columbus. So think about this. We're a 675 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: very very paper thin operation. So Bradley's at the news station, 676 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: run and master control. That's just where all the commercials 677 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: get run, and it's basically it's basically the engine room 678 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: of the of the station. It keeps everything afloat. So 679 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: Bradley's in they're shoveling his coal, running his commercials. Me 680 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: and our meteorologist are out chasing because it's a Saturday. 681 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: We're not on air on Saturdays. And then there's a 682 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: tornado warning in our viewing market. Not only does the 683 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: tornado touchdown where we originally were that morning and left 684 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: because we thought that there were greener pasture results where 685 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: So not only are we missing the tornado, we are 686 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: in lagrange at this point now, and we are in 687 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: a downpour, and we're stopped by a freight train, which 688 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm normally very much in favor of, but not in 689 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: this moment, and we have to go live on the air. 690 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 1: All these things I know it sounds like a lot's 691 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: happening at once, so we're trying to speed back to Auburn. 692 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: We have to go live on air because my meteorologist 693 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: is driving Bradley's back at the station. He's never queued 694 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: up the weather screen before. It's not his job. He 695 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: doesn't know how to do it. So Bradley has to 696 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: get walked through. It's like in Jurassic Park when the 697 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: lady has to be walked through how to turn the 698 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: power to the park back on. I mean, I've got 699 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: my meteorology just walking Bradley's step by step through how 700 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: to basically run the weather format and run the weather center. 701 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: And then he's on the phone doing a live hit. 702 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: There's just a full weather map if you were watching 703 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: on TV, just a full weather map, tornado warning. And 704 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: then I got my guy just down poor torrential rain. 705 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: It's really loud in the car and we're having to 706 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: do all that, and we missed the tornado and that 707 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: was not the most fun experience of my life. We 708 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: missed out on that one, and it was very picturesque. 709 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: You can see it very very well. It's very photogenic. 710 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: Congratulations to everyone else that was there. Oh, by the way, 711 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: we were coming back in town when we finally got 712 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: there and the EMS folks, the emergency management folks, said 713 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: you might as well not even come in through Oplaika. 714 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: Angels Antiques is like right off four point thirty one 715 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: for those of you are to eighty I think for 716 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: those of you who know that area, someone came over 717 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: the EMS radio and said, Angels Antiques is just gone. 718 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: It's just it's not there anymore. We were skeptical, so 719 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: we pull up on Angels Antiques and I kid you not, 720 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: there is a traffic cone in the parking lot that's 721 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 1: blown over. Otherwise, Angels Antiques has been touched by an angel. 722 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: Because it's it's untouched. It looks no different than it 723 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: would on a sunny afternoon. So some fake news on 724 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: the EMS scanner that night. All right, let's roll on 725 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: storm chasing stories. Thomas asked a good old fashioned would 726 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: you rather would you rather expand the playoff to sixty 727 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: four teams in honor of the late Mike Leach there, 728 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: would we ever expand to sixty four or would I 729 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: rather have the number one AP team declared champion? You 730 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: guys know how sadistic I am so you know the 731 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: direction I'm going on there. I'd rather have that format 732 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: than what we have now. I'd rather have the ap 733 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: format than what we have now. I'm willing to grant 734 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: you that is a radical opinion. I'm willing to grant 735 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: you that if you're willing to grant me at least 736 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: the understanding of why I feel that way. Now. I've 737 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: explained it, even in this very podcast. I've explained it. 738 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: I just don't care as much about the postseason in 739 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: college football. I wouldn't say it about any other sport, 740 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: but in this sport, you give me those saturdays in 741 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: the fall and make sure that everything about the structure 742 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: is built to maximize the importance of that Saturday. And 743 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm fine. And I know that you are 744 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: yelling at me right now, and you're saying, how could 745 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: you let sports writers determine a champion? How could you 746 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: let paper determine a champion? How could you risk a 747 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: flawed champion and a flawed outcome. I'm not arguing against 748 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 1: that risk. I've never argued against it. And you guys 749 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: clearly know if you've ever heard me talk about how 750 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 1: the Heisman process is a joke, you know my opinion 751 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: of a lot of those sports writers. So it's not 752 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: that I entrust these people to make the right decision 753 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: at all. I don't trust them to do that. I 754 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: don't have the misguided notion that we wouldn't run the 755 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: risk of having a farce of a national champion. I'm 756 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: simply telling you, which most of you disagree with. I 757 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: don't care as much about that. That's it. That's the 758 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: long and short of it. And some of you can't 759 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: grasp that opinion because you've never even considered what college 760 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: football is without because you've lived in the playoff era, 761 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: in the championship era, and you've just never even considered 762 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: what it could be without that. I'm not saying let's 763 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: play it without it. I'm saying I play it with 764 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: that as an afterthought and the main event being the 765 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: regular season. And then, of course there's the other crowd 766 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: that says, but every other sport does it the other way, 767 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 1: and I never argue with them, because every other sport 768 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: does do it the other way, and those sports are fine. 769 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: It's just that I love this one being a different 770 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: way to eat his and her own. And I'm clearly 771 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: in the minority. That's why it's changing, so you don't 772 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: have to worry about arguing with me on it. But 773 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: as for the sixty four team field, that's just gross. 774 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't even have to guess how that 775 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: would go. We've got it right now. So imagine imagine 776 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: college basketball the way it is, and imagine college football 777 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: up until about nineteen ninety eight. That's the way it was. 778 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 1: We found out what it was like when the AP 779 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: decided a champion, and we found out what it means 780 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: to have a sixty four team playoff. And we're in 781 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: the middle of March right now, so this is gonna 782 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: be the time of year. I'm gonna go ahead and 783 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,479 Speaker 1: get you ready for it. Prepare yourselves ahead of time. 784 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a bunch of folks who are desperate 785 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: for clicks and who are desperate to be a content creator. Say, oh, 786 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: look at this buzzer beater, this twelve, just beat this five. 787 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: How could you argue against this in college football? How 788 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: could you argue that that an expanded college football playoff 789 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 1: won't be great? And then those of us who think 790 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: like me will are you just sitting there going twiddle 791 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: of thumbs? Are you done? Are you guys done? Okay, 792 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: you're done. We've never said it won't be great, that's 793 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: the answer. I've never said the college football playoff won't 794 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: be exciting, never said it just like March, just like 795 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: April NCAA tournament. It's never not been exciting. It's just 796 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: that that's not the end of the conversation. That's not 797 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: where the sport begins. If I grant you that, you 798 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: have to answer me this. How much college basketball were 799 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: you watching in November this year? How much college basketball 800 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: did you make it a point to watch in January. 801 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: If you're a die hard basketball fan, you're kind of 802 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: exempt from this because you're not the norm. The answer 803 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: for most of you is you didn't. And that's my point. 804 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: A sixty fourteen postseason field dictates that you and I 805 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: don't have to watch the regular season unless we just 806 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: want to. But there's no emphasis. There's no need for 807 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: us to watch the regular season in college football, there 808 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 1: is a need. You don't understand the sport. You will 809 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: not be provided accurate context of the sport. If you 810 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: do not make it an appointment to watch the regular season. 811 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: You can do it in college basketball. So if you 812 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: had a sixty four team field in football. Sure you'd 813 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: get exciting moments at what cost. The cost would be September, October, November, 814 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: and early December. And that's the lifeblood of the sport. 815 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: To me. That's the long and short of it. You 816 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: can't you cannot take away the tree because you want 817 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 1: more ornaments. You can't do that. You have to have 818 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: the tree. There are some things you have to have. 819 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: There are non starters, they are non negotiables. Much like this. 820 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: So Hunter asked us, out of all the head coaches 821 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: in college football, who would you want to play in 822 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: ping pong? And I was gonna go with Harball. Well, 823 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: but I got sold on Lane Kiffin. I'm playing one 824 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: college football head coach in ping pong. It's Kiffin by 825 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: a mile, because Lane kiffn probably plays a lot like 826 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: I play. He brings his own paddle. I guarantee you 827 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 1: Kiffen rolls in with his own paddle. You can't tell 828 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: me that he's never played ping pong before. I just 829 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: think of the social settings that I frequently would find 830 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, and he's ponged a time or two. I 831 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: think Lane Kiffin would be very petty. I think he 832 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: would call you on illegal serves. He would call net. 833 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 1: Even at the slightest like whisper of a brush against 834 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: the net, he'd call it. He would call you on 835 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: the kind of technicalities quite frankly that I'm only used 836 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: to management calling us on around here. I think Lane 837 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 1: Kiffin would be really fun to play ping pong against. 838 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: And the more I think about it, he may very 839 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: well end up walking in our office and being the 840 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: number one seed one day. He'd be kind of a 841 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: wild card. But I tend to lean on the side 842 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: that he's played a time or two and be really good, 843 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't trash talk. He'd be a little more cerebral, 844 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: and he'd bottle it all up. And then when it's 845 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: game point and then he hit that final foehand and 846 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: he puts you to sleep, You're never here in the 847 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: end of it. Be very active on Twitter about it. 848 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: So again, I think Lane Kiffin would handle himself on 849 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: the pong table a lot like I do, and that 850 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: always makes for a good rivalry. So I'd like to 851 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: play Lane Kiffin. Open invitation. Got several months until the 852 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: season starts, so open invitation there. Connor Wagner Next up. 853 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: Connor asking us do coaches blow smoke with the every 854 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: spot is an open competition talk from Tomball Texas. Yes 855 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,479 Speaker 1: they do, Connor, Yes they do. That's happening right now 856 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: at the University of Texas. Sure it is in Steve 857 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: Sarkisian's best interest to say that you're bringing in Arch 858 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: Manning and he's going to compete for the quarterback job 859 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: in the spring with Quinn Ewers. Yes, certainly, that's what 860 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: he has said, and that's what they're going to try 861 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 1: and sell you on. But I've also talked to people 862 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: at Texas, and those people at Texas tell me the 863 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: expectation there is for arch Manning to be red shirted 864 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: his true freshman year. The expectation there is for Quinn 865 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: you Weers to win that job. Now here's what you 866 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: can't do. Okay, So I'm not knocking sark You can't 867 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: say that. You can't walk up to Arch Manning and 868 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: say we recruited you because we think you're supremely talented. 869 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: But in the very next sentence, I'm going to say 870 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: you have no shot of being good enough this year. 871 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: So here, go work on the side field, go with 872 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: farmer friend, go run some laps. In practice, you can't 873 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: do that. You've got a foster competition. The last thing 874 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 1: you want from an underachieving team or any team period 875 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 1: is for anyone to feel like their job is secured 876 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: or their job is a given. That's the same as 877 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: it would be for your right guard. So I know 878 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: some positions are more obvious than others. But yeah, coaches 879 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: do have to sell this, and yes, sometimes they're blowing smoke. 880 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: And sure, I think Steve Sarkisian understands in his heart 881 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: of hearts there's a greater than ninety percent chance Quinn 882 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 1: Ewers is his starting quarterback. But you see it rains 883 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: several times a year when there's only a ten percent chance. 884 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: So if those are the numbers, what do you do. 885 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: You say, hey, there's a slight chance of rain, or 886 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 1: in this case, you say we're gonna have a quarterback competition, 887 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: not controversy. We don't ever use that vernacular here. It's 888 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: a competition. There's a quarterback competition going on at Texas. 889 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be won by Quinn Eewers, 890 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: but that doesn't matter. Here's the other thing that I 891 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: don't necessarily think they're running the risk of it Texas. 892 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: But in the spirit of the general question, some of 893 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: your coaches are going to tell you this spring that 894 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 1: there are quarterback battles or there are outside linebacker depth 895 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: battles going on when there really aren't, because it's obvious 896 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: they're trying to keep their players out of the portal. 897 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: They can't let those players know that certain guys are 898 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: all but locked into starting spots. They have to at 899 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: least manufacture the illusion of competition to number one, maintain 900 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: the high level of practice they need in preparation they need, 901 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: and number two, so they can keep as many other 902 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: players as they can. That's pretty much a no brainer. 903 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: And I don't think any of us would run our 904 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,919 Speaker 1: teams any differently. I'm sure that I'm running Peate State 905 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: that way. So yeah, that's a norm now in the 906 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: transfer portal era. That's a norm that's gonna happen every spring. 907 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: Let's go next up here, This one's in the wayback machine. 908 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: How about this? Dan asked, would Ron Meyer have been 909 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: a great coach if not for the scandal at SMU 910 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: From Dacula, Georgia. Some people down there pronounce it Dequla. 911 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: I was always a Dacula guy. I've played baseball in 912 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: Dacula before ron Meyer. How many of you know who? That? Is? 913 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 1: No relation to Urban that I'm aware of. We can 914 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: do research on that, but how many of you are aware? Now? 915 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: Those of you who are older are gonna know who 916 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: ron Meyer is. Those of you who are younger but 917 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: are thirty for thirty junkies are also going to know 918 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: who ron Meyer is. The first thing you need to 919 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: know is if you have not already watched Pony Excess, 920 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: which is the greatest thirty for thirty in my opinion 921 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 1: that ESPN ever produced. Watch it yesterday. Stop what you're doing, 922 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: unless you're in class or driving, stop what you're doing 923 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 1: and go watch Pony Excess. It's like two hours long, 924 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: and it gives you the comprehensive, very colorful history of 925 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: the SMU scandal back in the eighties. And it just 926 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: dawned on me that a lot of you are going 927 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: to watch it and say, why are they getting the 928 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: death penalty for doing what every school now does legally? 929 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 1: That's part of what makes it beautiful slash terrifying. So 930 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: SMU rises to power under ron Meyer. They were sort 931 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: of an also ran in the Southwest Conference, which will 932 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: be zero point two when I'm college FOOTBA commissioner. On 933 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 1: my to do list, bring back the Southwest Conference. So 934 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: they're in the Southwest Conference. It's all the Texas schools 935 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: and Arkansas. Even Rice had a seat at the table. Today, 936 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: Rice is on the table cause of their food. Back then, 937 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: Rice was at the table because they were in the 938 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 1: Southwest Conference, and so SMU was nothing special in the 939 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: Southwest Conference. And they're in the middle of Dallas. Well, 940 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,439 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Ron Meyer comes in and 941 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: they say, well, if we're gonna cheat, then game on. 942 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: And these are all just quotes at this point from 943 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: the thirty for thirty. I've seen that thing more than 944 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of my favorite movies. And so 945 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 1: ron Meyer goes on like a one man barnstorming tour. 946 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: As they say, he said, we're gonna we're gonna win 947 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: in Dallas, We're gonna win in Houston, and we're gonna 948 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: win in East Texas. We're gonna dominate Houston, he said 949 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,760 Speaker 1: in recruiting. Don't ask me how, but we're gonna dominate Houston. 950 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: Well they did, and they were doing it because they 951 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,959 Speaker 1: were dropping sacks of cash left and right. I mean, 952 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson is all set to sign with Texas A 953 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: and M because they gave him a trans am or 954 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 1: as they called it, the TRANSA, and SMU still lands 955 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: them anyway, How in the world they do that, Well, 956 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: they paid him a lot of money, that's how. And 957 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: they loaded up a team and they're one of the 958 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: best teams in the country. And Ron Meyer is the cowboy, 959 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,720 Speaker 1: he's the face of it all. And then Ron Meyer 960 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: leaves to go to the Patriots. I think, and as 961 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: Skip Bayliss said in the Dock, ron Meyer made a 962 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: tactical decision to exit stage left before the stuff hit 963 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 1: the fan. Well, the question is would he have still 964 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,479 Speaker 1: been a legend? Would he have been a great coach 965 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: at SMU without the scandal. I don't think the answer 966 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: is yes, because by the very definition of what became 967 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: legendary about SMU, it took cheating and getting caught. The 968 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 1: governor of Texas was involved. By the way we're talking 969 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 1: about the governor, all of these quotes you're going to 970 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 1: hear when you watch the thirty for thirty. I don't 971 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: know that Ron Meyer would have risen to the nearly 972 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: the stature that he did once they had the full 973 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 1: cooperation financial investment. Otherwise at SMU, I don't know that 974 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 1: he would have been I know that I don't really 975 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,240 Speaker 1: care why he's a legend, just that he is a legend. 976 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,959 Speaker 1: And emphatically for the third and final time, I'm gonna 977 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: tell you because he is on record in this documentary. 978 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: They have him sit down for interviews. Musburger's in that thing. 979 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: A ton of Vern Lundquist. Uncle Vern is in the 980 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: Keith Jackson. I think no, he was in the he 981 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: was in the usfl one. But a lot of big 982 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: names that you would recognize are in that thirty for thirty, 983 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: So Ron Meyer. I don't know that he would have 984 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: been remembered as a legend other than for the reasons 985 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: that SMU came to prominence. And then they hired Bobby 986 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: Collins from Southern Myths, Bless his heart. You'll just have 987 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,280 Speaker 1: to You'll just have to listen to Craig James narrate 988 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,359 Speaker 1: that in the documentary. All right, let's answer this one here. 989 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 1: What would you recommend for someone trying to start a 990 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: podcast as a first step? Few things. I can't just 991 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: get you one of these few things. Number one, decide 992 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: what you have a passion for. Decide whether you have 993 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: the talent to do it. Decide where those two things overlap. 994 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: Decide why anyone should care about what you have to say. 995 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: I know that sounds rude, but that's my advice. And 996 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: decide whether you do have something to say. Now, if 997 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: you're looking to do this as a hobby, the latter 998 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: portion of what I said doesn't matter. You're doing it 999 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: to have fun. You do it to have fun. But 1000 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: if you're doing it and you're trying to scale something, 1001 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: monetize something, grow something into a living, breathing, profitable product, 1002 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: people have to care what you have to say. And 1003 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: in the sports world that's hard to do. In fact, 1004 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: in any world, that's hard to do. There's never been 1005 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: more noise out there than there is now. You're asking 1006 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 1: someone to take their time, be quiet and listen to 1007 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 1: what you have to say. That's hard to do. I 1008 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: am thankful every day you guys are doing it with 1009 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 1: me right now. So that's the first few steps. And 1010 00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: then the next thing you would do is very simple 1011 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: triple VENN diagram. And you need to know what you're 1012 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: good at, what your competition is good at, and what 1013 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: the audience wants, and then you look at the overlap 1014 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: areas and then you format your content accordingly. The middle 1015 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: is the most competitive but also a very very prime 1016 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: spot you've got where you overlap with the audience. That's 1017 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 1: where you're going to want to spend a majority of 1018 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: your time because that is what you're giving them that 1019 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: no one else can give them. For whatever reason, there's 1020 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: going to be where your competition overlaps with the audience. 1021 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 1: Stay away from that. They're better than you. It's a 1022 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,919 Speaker 1: waste of time. The audience knows to go to them. 1023 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,280 Speaker 1: And then there's the place where you and your competition overlap, 1024 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: but the audience couldn't care less. And frankly, that's a 1025 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: lot of the nil conversation right now. A lot of 1026 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: folks in our industry spend an inordinate amount of oxygen 1027 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,919 Speaker 1: talking about NIL from certain angles and you don't care 1028 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: because the numbers tell me you don't care. Now, what 1029 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: we've done on this show is I've talked about NIL 1030 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: in a little bit different fashion, and guess what you've 1031 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: told me you do care through your viewership. But what 1032 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm not doing and never will do, is cover NIL 1033 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: from the vantage point of so and so got this 1034 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 1: many dollars, So and so got that many dollars. That's 1035 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: not it because that doesn't impact you. I'm covering it 1036 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: from the vantage point of what impacts you, what do 1037 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 1: you care about? And fortunately for me, you and I 1038 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: kind of share the same opinion on NIL, so I 1039 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: already know what you want to hear because you want 1040 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: to hear the same things I want to hear, So 1041 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,720 Speaker 1: we don't really waste a lot of time in NIL. 1042 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: Those are a few of the pieces of advice. Then 1043 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: you need to learn, obviously, you need to learn SEO 1044 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 1: search engine optimization. You need to be able to understand 1045 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 1: how to title things, format things. You need to really 1046 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 1: really be a shrewd manager of time. Don't be filling 1047 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,839 Speaker 1: stuff just to hit an hour. Make sure there's a lot, 1048 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: a lot of fruit on that tree, make sure there's 1049 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: a lot of juice that comes out of that squeeze. 1050 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: You got to give people a return on their time investment, 1051 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: is what I'm telling you. That's why I'm not going 1052 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: to go any further this morning. I appreciate you guys listening. 1053 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 1: If you want to submit questions, the best thing that 1054 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: you can do is wait until I give you the 1055 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 1: call on Mondays or early on Tuesdays and then submit 1056 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 1: and it'll be either be on Twitter at late kick 1057 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: Josh or Instagram at late kick Josh. In the meantime, 1058 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: here's what's happening. A borderline fight to the death, ping 1059 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: pong battle, a tournament, A tournament, as producer Jesse would 1060 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: incorrectly say, is at hand in the twenty four to 1061 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 1: seven office. And I got screwed already. I haven't even 1062 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: played yet, but they screwed me already. No immunity, it 1063 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 1: is what it is. I went out of town, they 1064 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 1: formatted it, they seated it. I had no say, so 1065 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: they gave me a terrible draw. The tiebreaker to determine seeding, 1066 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:58,799 Speaker 1: by the way, is victory margin, which is insanity. We're 1067 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: not round robining and then seating. We're not doing that. 1068 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: That would be fair, So we're not doing that. So anyway, 1069 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: I need your help, I need your support. And if 1070 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: you're following on Instagram at late kick Josh, there is 1071 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: a chance that some of these may be live streamed. 1072 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 1: I'm not advertising it, except I'm telling you right now, 1073 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 1: just stay tuned. A lot of you asked about that, 1074 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: so stay tuned. So with your prayers as the wind 1075 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: in my sales for producer Jesse, for director Colin. For 1076 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: Bradley's in there with his hand on the joystick too. 1077 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm told I'm Josh Bate. Thanks for listening, Stay tuned, 1078 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,760 Speaker 1: and I will keep you updated as updates present themselves. 1079 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 1: God bless