1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,919 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: This He's Talking Cowboys string live from. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco. 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 4: Six seconds, dot tix. 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Touchdown and now your hosts, Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeomans. 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: Thirty four to six final score from At and T 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 3: Stadium in Week ten of the NFL season. The Dallas 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: Cowboys fall for their first fourth straight time at home, 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 3: their fourth straight time overall, and they fall to three 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: and six. Welcome into Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas. In 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: the SWBC studios, We've got Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: for the first time ever on Talking Cowboys. Tommy Yarish, 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: beat writer for the Dallas Cowboys, sitting in for Isaiah 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: stand Back. Tommy, Welcome to the show. 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 5: Appreciate you guys having me. 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: To Tommy t wife. 21 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: You're nasty t Why no Hilton, that's what you got 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: for Tommy Arrish t y No. 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: Hilton, not a Hilton, but like a holiday and express right. 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: A Marriott he's like the high end Marriott. You just 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: haven't understood it yet, like the fans at home. 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: We have a sponsored Omni, you're the Omni. 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: Marriott is the sponsor. Okay, yeah, Marriott Omny is as 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: a partner, but Marriott as the sponsor. 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: Okaya. 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: And then we've got Chris Beam in the back of 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us. I hope you have 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: all of that black Rifle coffee sitting in front of you, 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: Cowboys Nation, because you're gonna need about three hundred million 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: bagilly grams of caffeine break because it did not look pretty, 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: especially in the third quarter for the Cowboys. There were 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: times in the first half where I said, Okay, okay, 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 3: there's life, there's a pulse, there's something happening here, a light, 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: if you will, maybe a light dark min Why are 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: we talking about the sun? What about the moon? I mean, 40 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: they've all been up there. What Sun's been there five 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: million years? But yeah, my. 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 6: Favorite Jason Garrett comments is like the sun's been there 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 6: for two billion years for two million yeah. 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 7: But I mean, for those that saw Micah's comments after 45 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 7: the game, it was a play on what he said, 46 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 7: be the light. 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: Defense needs to be the light. And my moon comment 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: was a play on what Jerry said. And the walk 49 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: problem is is that talking to astrology. 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 7: It's it's it's too dark at this point for any 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 7: light to kind of matter. So if you were on 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 7: the if you were on the line about if you should, 53 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 7: you know, cash in some vacation time for January, go 54 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 7: ahead and do it, because I said before this game, 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 7: I sat right here in this same seaton. I said 56 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 7: before this game, this team was on the precipice of 57 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 7: a lost season. If they lose against the Eagles, especially 58 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 7: if it's in poor fashion, then it is officially a 59 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 7: lost season. 60 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: So I'm going to stand on that business. 61 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 7: And unfortunately, I'm going to go ahead and say this 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 7: is now a lost season. 63 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: What hope? 64 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 7: If you don't believe it's a lost season, my question 65 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 7: to you would be, what hope were you leaning on? 66 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 3: Right? 67 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 7: Because not only was the offense worse without Dak Prescott, 68 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 7: which we knew that it might be, there's ploys of 69 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 7: monumentally worse without Dak Prescott. Forty six passing yards for 70 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 7: Cooper Rush, the lowest four starting quarterback or at offense 71 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 7: for the Cowboys since two thousand and one. I believe 72 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 7: so tasting yards passing yards wise, lowest passing yards accumulated 73 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 7: in twenty three years. Okay, your defense came out, played 74 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 7: with its hair on fire. Demarv Yon overshown everywhere, your longhorn, 75 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 7: animal animal demon time. 76 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: Okay. 77 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 7: Michael Parsons came back. Looked like he didn't miss a snap, 78 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 7: hadn't placed since September. Looked like him saw them demon time. 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: Right. The defense set the tone in a way that 80 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: we have been wanting them to do. Huge. 81 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 7: Still the Pappy, Absolutely, he is still the Pappy five 82 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 7: the Philadelphia games. 83 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: Still the Pappy. Your defense gave you a chance. What 84 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 3: did you do? 85 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 8: You? 86 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: You blew it every single time? 87 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 7: Okay, tomayon over shown gets you that sack, thirteen yards 88 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 7: lost and Cooper rush then fumbles the snap gives them 89 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 7: the ball in the red zone. Of course they score 90 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 7: because they can score in the red zone. Apparently not 91 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 7: every team can, but the Philadelphia Eagles can. 92 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: What's that like? 93 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 7: Marius Leo file right on that Micah forced fumble, sack, 94 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 7: Mary's lefoul recovers the ball six yards first and goal 95 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 7: from the six yard line. How many yards did they 96 00:04:53,839 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 7: get one one yard in three attention, Oh no, it 97 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 7: is three. And it just went from there and all 98 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 7: five turnovers, fumble at the four four Zeke's fumble in 99 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 7: the rid zone. 100 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: That was big. That was massive. 101 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 7: That was such a diff That was a long That 102 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 7: was the longest best drive of the game, not. 103 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: Just to that point, but of the entire of the year. 104 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: And that might have been my favorite drive They've had 105 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: all gear this favorite drive. They were running the ball, 106 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: they were balanced, they were working to the outside. Rico 107 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: Dawdle was making cuts. They were all moving and grooving 108 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: and just rolling down the field. And then on the 109 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: fifteenth player the drive number, you give it to Ezekiel 110 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: Elliott and he coughs it up at the goal line. 111 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 7: You know, that reminded me of you remember earlier in 112 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 7: the season when they had a fantastic drive at home 113 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 7: and it. 114 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: Was ceedee lamb. Yeah, same thing, the ball on the 115 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 3: ground in the red zone. I think I was like 116 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: played nine or ten. That was another great drive. 117 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 7: Four lost fumbles, add an interception on Trey Lance, And honestly, 118 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 7: I actually forgive Trey Lance for the interception. I'm not 119 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 7: in a giving grace move but I'll give him great 120 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 7: for that because that was not on him. Go back 121 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 7: and look at the film, look at the route. I 122 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 7: don't know what Jalen Tobart's route was supposed to be there. 123 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 7: It was bad, but it wasn't what it was supposed Yeah, 124 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 7: so that interception was on Jalen Tobert. I would have 125 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 7: liked to see more of Trey Lance, especially earlier in 126 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 7: the game. But nonetheless, for lost fumbles. We talked about 127 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 7: Cooper Rush coming into a different situation. This is not 128 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 7: twenty twenty two. Your offensive line cannot protect you consistently. 129 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 7: You don't have receivers that can get separation. But hey, 130 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 7: for two quarters you had a defense that actually was 131 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 7: taking the ball away and actually was giving you a shot. 132 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 7: But because you started seeing ghosts, you started the panic 133 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 7: and things kind of went from there. So worst outing 134 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 7: of Cooper Rush's professional career. I'm not even we'll get 135 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 7: through the protection numbers, but this is bad. It's lost 136 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 7: us your vacation time in January. 137 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: It's a go. 138 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 6: I think that that drive, that fifteen play drive Verzi 139 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 6: fumbles in the end zone. I think that, of course, 140 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 6: like we've talked about before, it's like Oh, there are 141 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 6: these plays. There are these absolute disastrous plays that just 142 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 6: make up and tell you the story of what the 143 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 6: sea in his like for the Cowboys at every turn, 144 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 6: no matter how good you start to look momentum wise, 145 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 6: it just results in just a bone headed play, decision, interception, fumble, 146 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 6: whatever it is, like, it just ends up being that way. 147 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: And then the. 148 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 6: Defense right after that causes the fumble to put you 149 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 6: right back at first in goal. 150 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: They negated that whole scenario. 151 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so you. 152 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: Micah Parsons deleted the lat mistake. Absolutely off, delete, delete 153 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: the lead. I mean, he like got rid of it. 154 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 6: And we've talked about how Mike, how we interpret that. 155 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy feels about fumbling in the red zone right 156 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 6: the very next series when they come back out, who 157 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 6: is your starting running back? And they gave them, what 158 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 6: the heck are we doing that? 159 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 7: I said, that doghouse stuff is kind of weird because 160 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 7: you don't know when he's going to choose to apply it. 161 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: It's really strange. 162 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,559 Speaker 3: And he of course he didn't get a carry after 163 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: that though, right he got that next carry of the 164 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: opening drive. I don't think he had enough game. 165 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 4: There's that's such an odd decision to me. 166 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 6: And then again, like we talked about, you have four 167 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 6: plays and you gain one yard? 168 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 5: Am I right? That was it? 169 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 9: Rico o'dwell that got the third down carry on that 170 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 9: drive too, and it wasn't going for anything. 171 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: Look, didn't go anywhere. 172 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 9: I don't need to tell you guys that those two 173 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 9: drives where you need twelve yards total and two drives 174 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 9: for the chance to get fourteen points is bad. But 175 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 9: let me tell you what's worse. You want to know 176 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 9: what the Cowboys did on their next six drives, talk 177 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 9: to us three and out, three and out, three and out, fumble, fumble, 178 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 9: interception in those. 179 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 5: Six drives in those six great, not great, it's it's 180 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 5: not done yet. 181 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 9: How many how many yards do you think they gained 182 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 9: no offense in that time span? 183 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: Oh that's a good twenty five five yards? 184 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 5: Twenty three yards? 185 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: Are you're gonna make me throw up into this bowl? 186 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 9: The Eagles scored for the unanswered points, So the Eagles 187 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 9: had more points than the Cowboys had yards essentially the 188 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 9: rest of the way. 189 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 5: I mean, that's that. That says it. That says it. 190 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 5: That's the story of this. 191 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 9: Game, right, I mean, you take under Mike Zimmers, defense's 192 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 9: best is best half we've seen all years. 193 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: It was right, yeahs. 194 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: Turned it into. 195 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 5: The follow through on it. I can't follow it. 196 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 9: No, no, no, that's that that there's no other way 197 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 9: to put it. I mean, five sacks in the first half. 198 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 9: That's the most Cowboys tied for the most that they've 199 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 9: had in a regular season game in the last twenty 200 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 9: five years. 201 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 5: And you just window. 202 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 7: Felt that you had to take advantage of that first 203 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 7: half from the defense, knowing that the Cowboys and third 204 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 7: quarters are not friends. 205 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: They are not friends. 206 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 7: They are toxic xes who are out for each other's 207 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 7: but out scored in the third quarter alone eighty two 208 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 7: to twenty two. 209 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: This year, you are minus sixty minus sixty in the 210 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: third quarter. It might I remind you this is not 211 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: over the course of an entire season. This is over 212 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: the course of nine games. Sixty divided by nine is nine. Great. 213 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 6: Bob nak MGB and uh Jerry Jones even talked about 214 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 6: it after the game too. 215 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 4: It's like we could we got. 216 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 6: To figure out what we're drinking at halftime, what we 217 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 6: drink quarter. I mean, there's there's something really drastically wrong 218 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 6: about the way that they are making adjustments coming out 219 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 6: of halftime, and if they are even. 220 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: Making it es, well, that's the wind too. 221 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 4: Maybe that's the game plan. 222 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: And we've we've talked about this on this show previously. 223 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: It may not have been this year, but it might 224 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: have been in the past. But NFL halftimes are so 225 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: short that fans, I think, have this preconceived notion that 226 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 3: you're gonna go into halftime, You're gonna get this who 227 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 3: rob speech from the coaching staff, and they're gonna get 228 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: you fired up to go out there for the third quarter, 229 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: and they're gonna get you set, and we're gonna break 230 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: down the film and we're gonna look at it all. 231 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: And everybody's sitting there listening to Mike mc arthy is 232 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: he outlines the game plan going into the second half 233 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: in eleven is not what happens at all. That is 234 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: not at halftime at the NFL level. The halftime at 235 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: the NFL level, you get down there, most of the time, 236 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 3: guys will either go to the restroom, grab a drink, 237 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: sit down as the coaching staff comes down from the booth. 238 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: So you might get an opportunity if your coach, your 239 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 3: position coach was in the booth, you'll get maybe three 240 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: minutes to talk to him or her, whatever ends up being. 241 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: In the NFL, you get three minutes in your locker 242 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: room to talk to your position, coach or whoever's directly 243 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: your superior I guess in that moment. Then after that 244 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 3: you go back onto the field and get ready for 245 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: the second half. So there's not a ton of adjusting 246 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 3: that can happen. But what you can say is you 247 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: got to have the right mindset coming out of that break. 248 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: And it certainly hasn't been the case. These guys aren't 249 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: locked in, they haven't played well, and there's a lot 250 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: of things that go to effort in the NFL, and 251 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: we've talked about effort before. I don't think it's a 252 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: lack of effort. I think it's a lack of mentality, 253 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: if that makes sense, because you can still give physical 254 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: effort but not completely be there right whenever you're locked 255 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: in on the game plan or whatever it may be 256 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: from a playbook standpoint, and when you're getting outscored by 257 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: sixty points in the third quarter alone, you're not locked in. 258 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 259 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 6: I don't know what else to tell them. As much 260 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 6: credit as we're giving the defense. He also had Kiln Carson, 261 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 6: who did not have a great game. They were targeting him. 262 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: Oh, they picked on him very much. 263 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: And Kellen Moore a. 264 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: Peppy We've addressed this, yes, but Kellen said, I'm not 265 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 3: going to throw to that guy. I'm not going to 266 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: throw the Jordan Lewis. 267 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 4: I'm gonna pick on this. 268 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna circle this rookie that the seat belt. They 269 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: may have seat belt cutters in that that locker room 270 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: for Philadelphia because they got after. 271 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: Him a little bit. 272 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 6: No, and let's run as many crossers as we possibly 273 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 6: can to get these guys out of position and make 274 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 6: them play man right, which is just not a good 275 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 6: recipe for successful for me. 276 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 7: The third quarter, and when you look at yesterday's third quarter, 277 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 7: it was more or less a microcosm of what we've 278 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 7: seen in almost every third quarter this seasons. Cal makes 279 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 7: a great point. It's not like you can go pull 280 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 7: up the whiteboard and pull out the film this, have 281 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 7: a whole team meeting at havetime for adjustments. No, you 282 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 7: have to adjust quickly and adapt quickly. Now, that's what 283 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 7: the other team is doing. That's why they come out 284 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 7: and they're playing different football. If you contain them over 285 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 7: the first couple of quarters, they're like, yeah, well, we 286 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 7: see how they're playing us. 287 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 3: We're going to change this up. Fine. 288 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 7: That means that's going to give them the advantage, especially 289 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 7: if they're getting the ball first, because the Cowboys keep 290 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 7: choosing to receive the ball. 291 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: When they win the coin toss. I don't even starting 292 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: on that. 293 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 7: So in this situation, you still have fifteen minutes in 294 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 7: that quarter, fifteen football minutes to make your adaptation to 295 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 7: their adaptation problem is yesterday in the third quarter, another 296 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 7: example of no adaptation over the course of an entire 297 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 7: third quarter. 298 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 3: So when I'm seeing. 299 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 7: Cal Josh, Tommy, you weren't here for this, Josh, what 300 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 7: I say about Donovan Wilson and zimmer scheme not good? 301 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 3: What did I say? He keeps asking Donovan to do that. 302 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 7: Is actually the weakest point top play over the top 303 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 7: and play go backwards coverage And how did that work 304 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 7: out yesterday? 305 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: Not? 306 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 7: Well, that's because Sirianni and Kellen Moore went into the 307 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 7: half and Kellen Moore knows Donovan Wilson very well for 308 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 7: obvious reasons, and he said, you know what, I noticed 309 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 7: that they keep dropping Donovan Wilson back in coverage. Let's 310 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 7: attack that with Dallas Goddard. Okay, here we go. They're 311 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 7: attacking Donovan Wilson. Hey, Zimmer, by the way, they were 312 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 7: drawing a circle around Donovan. Now maybe making a no, okay, 313 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 7: no no tick tick tick tick tick. Now when the 314 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 7: fourth quartering of the game is blown wide open already, 315 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 7: it's too late. So for me, it's not making adjustments 316 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 7: in real time. It's you know, guys, Yeah, they're giving 317 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 7: the effort, but you know they're just not in position 318 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 7: to make the plays in the third quarter, in the 319 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 7: fourth quarter that they were in the first quarter. We 320 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 7: know that Demarvejon was a little bit hampered because he 321 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 7: turns out he suffered the knee injury in the first 322 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 7: half and he kind of came back in and he 323 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 7: kind of played through it. But he was battling that. 324 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 7: But no one else when Marveong got hampered, no one 325 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 7: else other than Michael was on demon time, right, So 326 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 7: where were the Demons in the second half. But again, 327 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 7: I'm not going to hang this loss. I'm really not 328 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 7: im not going to hang this loss on the defense. 329 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: You're going to lose your edge defensively. 330 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 7: When you're not playing a complimentary football, offense starts to 331 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 7: dip mistakes, you start to get frustrated. 332 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: They put you in your situation. 333 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 9: What's the point, Well, you don't have time to breathe, right, Yeah, 334 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 9: they don't have time to breathe. Three three and ounce 335 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 9: and three turnovers back to back to back to back 336 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 9: to back to back drives. 337 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 5: You don't have time to catch your breath now. 338 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: So you're sitting there on the sideline saying, can you 339 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: please just get one first down? Just exactly you please? 340 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: You just think. 341 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 9: As deflating as it is for an offense to not 342 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 9: come away with six points when you've got the ball 343 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 9: on the six yard line, how deflating is it for 344 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 9: a defense to get two eight turnovers back to back 345 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 9: to get you in that spot, just for your offense 346 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 9: to run four plays. 347 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: Both times that they didn't end up in points in 348 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: the inside the ten yard line, or I guess they 349 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: ended up with just the three on the after the 350 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: Micah Stripzak and the Marris leafoul recovery. I watched as 351 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: the stadium shot showed the offensive line going back to 352 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: the sideline. Both times they showed the offensive line, and 353 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: I couldn't help but notice two different faces at that time. 354 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: One of them was Zach Martin and then the other 355 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: one was Tyler or Terrence Steel. Those were the two 356 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: guys that I kind of like looked at both times 357 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: when we were in the stadium as they were walking back. 358 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: When we come back, I want to talk about the 359 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: offensive line because it was kind of it was kerfuffled, 360 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 3: but there was also a bright spot on the left side. 361 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: I want to talk about a little bit more as well, 362 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: but that's part of where I think this offensive struggle 363 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: has started and continued throughout the twenty twenty four season 364 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: offensive line. 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It hurts. 431 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 3: Four straight losses. Back with Tommy Yars, Josh Rodriguez, Patrick 432 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: No s Walker, Chris Beam in the back. I want 433 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 3: to talk about the offensive side of the ball. Tommy. 434 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: You did a phenomenal job of outlining the despair on 435 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 3: that side of the football in the second half. One 436 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: way to put it, it's specifically, we've talked a lot 437 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: about the offensive line on this show and how it 438 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: has not been consistent enough for you to build anything 439 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 3: around it, and a lot of times, at least going 440 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: into the year, we thought it was going to be 441 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: the rookies and the learning curve around Tyler Gidon and 442 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: Cooper Bebee. Instead, you're starting to see the regression in 443 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: a steep regression of Zach Martin, and you're starting to 444 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: see a bad seas have seen a bad season from 445 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: Terrence Steele on the right tackle spot. When you look 446 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: at this offensive line, where does it start for you 447 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: in terms of the downturn up front? 448 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 9: I really think it is with Terrence Steele on the outside. 449 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 9: I think that's where you've seen so much of the 450 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 9: pressure come. And then when you look at the left 451 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 9: side when Tyler Geiden's played, Dallas has tried to help 452 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 9: him over there, whether it be a tight end or 453 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 9: they line up a running back on that side to 454 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 9: help him pass protection guy. 455 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 5: It just hasn't worked. It just hasn't worked. 456 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 9: So I mean assume Richard's awesome mercer yesterday I thought 457 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 9: played fairly well for what you would expect from him 458 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 9: considering Geiton was, you know, kind of a guy you 459 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 9: didn't know about coming into this game and you know, 460 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 9: questionable throughout the week and limited throughout the week in practice. 461 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 9: But you know what did it for me was Terrence 462 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 9: Steele Seemingly you guys, tell me if I saw this 463 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 9: play wrong, it looked like he kicked the ball away 464 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 9: from Hunter Lipke and then just want it on the 465 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 9: ground instead of just falling on top of. 466 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 4: It's trying to scoop and score based. 467 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's trying to make something happen. 468 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 5: That was third down, right, So I mean. 469 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: He's trying to make up for his mistake. 470 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 9: With all due respect to Terrence, I don't know how 471 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 9: many yards he's going to get if he picks that 472 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 9: up and rumbles with it. 473 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 5: Maybe he just houses it. That would be super cool. 474 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 4: A man of steel. 475 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it's a hard guy to bring down 476 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 9: the ball, I'll tell you that. But you know that, 477 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 9: I think that's where it starts with this offensive line. 478 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 9: When you knew there was going to be growing pains 479 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 9: with rookies, but did you think it would be to 480 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 9: this magnitude. 481 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 6: And that kind of goes back to another motif that 482 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 6: has followed us throughout the season, and that like hero ball, 483 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 6: playing hero ball, doing more, doing too much. You know, 484 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 6: if Terrence Steele thinks in that moment like I'm going 485 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 6: to pick up the ball and we're going to get 486 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 6: this first downright. 487 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: Loft sixty yards. 488 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, if that's his thought process, that is the 489 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 6: hero ball, That is the hero mentality. That is doing 490 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 6: more than what your job entails. Your job entails in 491 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 6: that moment to dive on that frickin' ball and secure it, 492 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 6: do not give it back to the Philadelphia Eagles when 493 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 6: you are struggling to move the ball in the first place. 494 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 6: To me, that was just another example of how being 495 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 6: a hero doing too much has kind of bit you 496 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 6: in the butt. And you've seen that more so on 497 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 6: defense this year, But in that moment, it felt. 498 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 3: Just like that. 499 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 6: It's a microcosm of the whole season and the demons 500 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 6: sort of. 501 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 4: Coming back again. 502 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 3: He was my f word again. 503 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 7: Fundamentals, Oh, fundamentals say that on the airway. Yeah, fundamentals, listen, 504 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 7: Terrence steel Is sixty six three hundred ten pounds, give 505 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 7: or take. Okay, after the after you missed your block 506 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 7: which led to the sack and forced fumble. That cow 507 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 7: you said, maybe he was trying to make up for it. 508 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 7: The way you make up for it is you put 509 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 7: that six six, three hundred ten pound frame on top 510 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 7: of that small, little oblong object. That's what you do. 511 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 7: You go full bombshit over that ball to give yourselves 512 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 7: a chance. At worst, it becomes a punt and you 513 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 7: turn the field position a while. 514 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: But you cannot give the Eagles that ball. 515 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 5: He needs to pop that ball. 516 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 9: He literally needs to make the ball explode by falling. 517 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, that's what needs to happen. 518 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 9: No, there should be no ball by the. 519 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 4: Fundamental, flatten yourself on top of. 520 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 7: You are taught at every level of the game to 521 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 7: fall on a loose ball. Yep, every position doesn't matter 522 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 7: if you're the wide receiver or not. Now it's a 523 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 7: little bit more forgivable if you don't, and you're the 524 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 7: wide receiver or something right, and you have some green 525 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 7: in front of you. It's like, Okay, you know what 526 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 7: the fundamental was, but I get it. I can't even 527 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 7: say I get this. You're a right tackle. Just fall 528 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 7: on the ball. You have zero chance. Let's say you 529 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 7: scoop that ball. Where are you're going, Like Tommy said. 530 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 5: Are where you're going? 531 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 3: Big boy? Where you're going, big boy? Right? This was 532 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: not going to be the legacy moment. Okay. So to 533 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: answer your question, my opinion, it starts on the right side. 534 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 7: It's not just Terrence, but it's Zach as well, right, 535 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 7: and then it filters left from there because Terrence is 536 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 7: struggling and Zach is having arguably the worst season of 537 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 7: his you know, Hall of Fame career. 538 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 3: He gave up another sack and another two pressures. Correct. 539 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 7: Now, it makes things more difficult for a rookie like 540 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 7: Cooper BB, right, who's transitioning. And one of the things 541 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 7: that were was supposed to help Cooper BB was being 542 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 7: sandwiched between Zach Martin Tyler Smith. Tyler Smith had a 543 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 7: pretty pretty good day yesterday, But when that right side 544 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 7: is struggling, now you're asking a whole lot from Cooper 545 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 7: BB and his first. 546 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 3: Year is center and his first year is center. 547 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 7: Also a lot of Yeah, I think everybody except one 548 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 7: allowed to sack yesterday. 549 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: That would be as stout of the starters, Yes, yeah, 550 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: out of the starters, correct. Tyler Smith was the only 551 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: one who did that, and then it was a combiny. 552 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 7: It went from there because Cook clean from Tyler, Cooper 553 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 7: Rush wasn't throwing the ball well even when he wasn't pressured, 554 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 7: and then when he was pressured, it made things spiral 555 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 7: them much more out of control. So yeah, yeah, worst 556 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 7: passing outing since, like I said, two thousand and one. 557 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: Oh, here's who the quarterback was in that game. It 558 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: was Quincy Quincy Carter. 559 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 9: Yeah, he did not Cooper Rush did not complete a 560 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 9: pass further than ten. 561 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 3: Years ten yards field. Yeah. His spray chart from NFL 562 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: like next Gin looks like a peewee football spray chart 563 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: like And that's not all on Cooper Rush, it's not, 564 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: but it does look like that, but it is. It 565 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: is also and I think there's an element to this 566 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: that one if you're a Dak Prescott hater, this is 567 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: a good indication of why you shouldn't be a Dak 568 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: Prescott hater. 569 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 5: Yep. 570 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 3: Not only is Cooper Rush a backup quarterback, but it 571 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 3: went so far down below we thought it was a 572 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: low floor or a high floor, low ceiling. With Cooper Rush, 573 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: we just saw how low the floor can get. It 574 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: went pretty darn low and it is. It's the lowest 575 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: that he's ever played in the NFL. That's plain and simple. 576 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 3: It could get get better from here, we'll see, But 577 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: right there is a good indication of how much you 578 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: missed Dak Prescott. When I was sitting in the press 579 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: box and I had my pin out and I was 580 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: taking my notes. During that Terrence Steel play where the 581 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 3: stripsack happens, Rush puts the ball on the ground, it 582 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 3: fumbles away. He's trying to go get it and he 583 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 3: can't come up with it, and the Eagles recover. I 584 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: wrote two words on my flip card. Would you like 585 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 3: to guess which the two words were on air? 586 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 12: No? 587 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, they're they're not. No, they're not curse words. 588 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 4: You're going that I got nothing. 589 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 3: Would you like to take a guess? 590 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 5: I couldn't even try. 591 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: It was rock bottom, That's what I and I wrote 592 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 3: it over the top of the Cowboy That's what That's 593 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 3: what it felt like. It felt like this was rock bottom. 594 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 3: The boobirds were there. Everybody's frustrated. The offense hasn't been good. 595 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: Even when Dak was in the fold, he was having 596 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: to cover up so much that they could not figure 597 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: things out period. It's it felt like that moment. If 598 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: when we get done with the twenty twenty four season 599 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: and we look back years from now and we circle 600 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: this year as a year that was a lost season 601 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: for the Cowboys, that's the moment that's gonna stick out 602 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 3: to me. That one specifically. I don't know why, but 603 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: it's because it felt that way. I felt, really it was. 604 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 3: There's plenty of moments like that. That was the one 605 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 3: that's going to stick out to me as the rock 606 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: bottom moment of twenty twenty. 607 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 4: Think the Zeke fumble two is one that was bad too. 608 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 6: That one's really bad, and a lot of it just 609 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 6: feels like a team that is playing not to lose. 610 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 6: They're trying to they're desperately trying not to make the mistakes, 611 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 6: which is also making those mistakes. And there it doesn't 612 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 6: feel like a confidence team. 613 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 7: Here's when you know nothing is destined to go in 614 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 7: your favorite you're gasping for any type of positivity. 615 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: Right. 616 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 7: So Trey Lance comes in and yeah, this could have 617 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 7: been a better ball to Jake, but none the less, 618 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 7: the ball gets there. Jake with a sensational one handed grab, 619 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 7: sensation to fumble yep, fourth loss fumble. At that point, 620 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 7: it is okay, okay, use your vacation, Tom. 621 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 5: Do you know what? 622 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 9: You know what happened after that fumble too? Trey Lance, 623 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 9: as a good quarterback does, makes the play to push 624 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 9: the defender out of bounds. 625 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 5: He pushed the defender into Dak Prescott. I mean bad 626 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 5: play alone. 627 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 9: Is the encapsulations. I mean we can look at and 628 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 9: he has Dak has to hop away. He like he 629 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 9: could have gotten again. 630 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 5: That I think encapsulates this game. 631 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 9: There's just one photo, one six second video that is 632 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 9: the cover of. 633 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: Maybe I should have written that down on that play. 634 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 9: Specifically, even even when Dak Prescott's not in the game, 635 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 9: he was still in danger, He's still under pressure mind boxing. 636 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 5: I mean, how does that happen? 637 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 6: Oh there's a hit on his statuet for yesterday no 638 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 6: attempts pressure. 639 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 3: Allowed the QB three QB three. Oh my god. I 640 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: was I was impressed because I was like, Trey Lance 641 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 3: laid a hit on that guy. I was like, that 642 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: was kind of a good I realized that Dak was 643 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 3: on the receiving. We are not even laughing because it's funny. 644 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 7: We're laughing because how does the adage go, sometimes you 645 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 7: gotta laugh to keep crying. This is so bad that 646 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 7: you're either going to just laugh at it because it's 647 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 7: like it's so ridiculous. It's so ridiculous that you have 648 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 7: to laugh or you just go numb, or a combination 649 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 7: of the two. Now it's just like, Okay, what what 650 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 7: happens when the texts come? What's the next thing? 651 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: What's the stages of grief? 652 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 6: And I think we're kind of passed that into now 653 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 6: it's laughter. Now it's just a morbid, a morbid laughter 654 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 6: that we have in regards to the team and the 655 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 6: season so far. You hate to see it, man, you 656 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 6: really do. 657 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: This is rough. 658 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 7: That if just when you think, and that's why I 659 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 7: say that, hold that rock bottom drink, because it seems 660 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 7: like every time you think you've hit rock bottom with this. 661 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 3: Team, something else happens happens. Even with that, though, like 662 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 3: you said it, going into this game, there was still 663 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: a sliver of hope. Even if it was a sliver, 664 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: I'm talking it, but it was there's I don't see 665 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: that anymore. I don't think there's even a sliver. I 666 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 3: think the season you're looking at the future now whenever 667 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: it comes to twenty twenty four, Sure a miracle in 668 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 3: the Metroplex can happen and you can win out. Sure, absolutely, 669 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: you could totally have a miracle, because that's what it 670 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 3: would take, a pure act of divine intervention to make 671 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: something happen to the point where you win and get 672 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: to eleven and six. Sure, but that's not happening. Will 673 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: I think God is busy doing other things. Yeah, he's plenty. 674 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 3: He's a bit tied up, I will say. 675 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 9: And I'll pose this kind of as a question too. 676 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 9: If you if you want I try to be a 677 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 9: positive person, if you want to look at something, if 678 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 9: you want to look at something that could be positive 679 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 9: for you. If the offensive line is going to play 680 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 9: the way that they've been playing or they give up pressure, 681 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 9: do you make. 682 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 5: Trey Lance the starting quarterback? 683 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: Yes? 684 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 9: Is that the potential answer? Because here's the thing, Yes, 685 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 9: thank you. At worst you get him valuable reps and 686 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 9: you see what you've got there. You traded a fourth 687 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 9: round pick for him. I think you just see what 688 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 9: you've got there, and that's not that's not a slight 689 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 9: at Cooper Rush. I mean what you have with you, 690 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 9: You know what you have with Cooper Rush. And now 691 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 9: you've seen the worst from Cooper Rush. And you know, 692 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 9: are you in save the season mode anymore to where 693 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 9: you want Cooper Rush to win you games? 694 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 5: Or are you in Hey. 695 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 9: Let's see if Trey Lance can get this thing going? 696 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 4: Are you in all? 697 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 3: Are you? 698 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 4: And he needs to run the freaking ball? 699 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 5: M wow, bang god? 700 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: And you can't. We saw it like at least early 701 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: in the game, whenever they just put him in for 702 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: a run package, he ran the Reid option and took 703 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: two snaps and then was out of the game. Like 704 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 3: that was kind of what what we anticipated. Like, you 705 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: can't just do that. He's got to be able to 706 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: throw the football too, And so we mentioned this last week, 707 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: But you're right. If the offensive line is is Swiss 708 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 3: cheese up front and it's just gonna let these. 709 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 5: Defenders through and Rush is gonna succeed. 710 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen. So why not give a guy 711 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 3: with at least a little bit of mobility a chance 712 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 3: back there? And like you said, see what you get. 713 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 6: Dual threats. The more opportunities you give yourself on the 714 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 6: ground or in the air, take a shot, man, you 715 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 6: have to. 716 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 9: You you look at I mean to cut you off 717 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 9: just one more thing on trade. You look at some 718 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 9: of the players yesterday where he gets flushed out. One 719 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 9: of those plays, he just turns the court or beats everybody. 720 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 5: For eleven yards. 721 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, and even when he couldn't, even when he couldn't, he. 722 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 5: Still gets flushed out. 723 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 9: He's got three guys on the backfield chasing him, and 724 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 9: he gets back to the line of scrimmage. If Cooper 725 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 9: rushes in that situation, you take a six to seven 726 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 9: yard sack both times dead man, and he turns it 727 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 9: into ten net yards in two plays and a first down. 728 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 7: And this is why going into this game, I wanted 729 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 7: them to unleash the packages for Trey Lance, but for 730 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 7: Trey Lance to not take his first snap until just 731 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 7: under three minutes in the third quarter. Now you're down 732 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 7: twenty eight to six, and then you put him in 733 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 7: for two plays, one of those was a designed run, 734 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 7: and then you pull him and you put Cooper Rush 735 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 7: back in the game for that third quarter. And then 736 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 7: it wasn't until the fourth quarter where you look at 737 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 7: Tray and say, you know what, now you can go 738 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 7: throw the ball. No, And then even when you look 739 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 7: at when Trey was throwing the ball. We know that 740 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 7: Trey Lance needs more development with his arm. We know this, okay, 741 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 7: but it's evaluation time and he's not going to get 742 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 7: this opportunity again for the Cowboys as far as in 743 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 7: game reps, and like he said that time he said, 744 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 7: and like we've been saying leading into this game, he 745 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 7: gives you the escapability and behind an offensive line that 746 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 7: just simply cannot protect you. 747 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: So, no matter how you look at it, we know 748 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 3: what Cooper rush is. 749 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 7: If you're Mike McCarthy and you're thinking, there's a snowballs 750 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 7: chance in the hell that maybe you can save the season. 751 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 3: Okay, maybe the best option is Trey Lance. 752 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 7: Maybe, but even if it's not, you need to evaluate 753 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 7: this young man and if nothing else, give the fans 754 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 7: something to have some fun with in a season that's 755 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 7: likely dead at this point. 756 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 6: And if you've read Dallas Cowboys dot Com, you read 757 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 6: this last week in Science Life, you did Patrick discuss this, 758 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 6: you did about using both quarterbacks to your advantage. Whenever 759 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 6: I saw Trey Lance come in, I was like, Damn, 760 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 6: Patrick got a point. Patrick got a point. It's at 761 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 6: this point it's too little, too late. 762 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 4: But I didn't. 763 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 6: I didn't not respect I didn't expect the coaching staff 764 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 6: to put Trey Lance in. But you needed the spark 765 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 6: in that moment, and I think he for all into 766 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 6: the purposes. He gave you something. 767 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 7: Cooper Rush, a Conch Carter game, Trey Lance at least 768 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 7: a package that should have started middle of the second quarter, 769 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 7: give or take. 770 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: And so at the beginning of. 771 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 7: The third quarter, when you saw it was starting to 772 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 7: get away from you, just go ahead and pull the 773 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 7: reins off. 774 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 4: Imagine if you started that. 775 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, just. 776 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 9: Going start, you know when it should have started, first 777 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 9: and goal from. 778 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: The six yo. 779 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, tell, as soon as they got the ball there, 780 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 9: I said to myself and I maybe said to the 781 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 9: see you in the press box, this is prime trade opportunity. 782 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 9: This is a prime trade a Lance spot. 783 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 5: If you run a speed. 784 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 9: Options with him and Rico o'dowell, you're at least getting 785 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 9: a yard or two at the very like if. 786 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: That's who would be double what we actually exactly. 787 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 9: Barring a disaster, which the Cowboys had several disasters, you 788 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 9: at least get a couple of positive yards out of 789 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 9: that plane. 790 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 5: You just see what you've got you see what you've. 791 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 9: Got, and you get away from the interior defensive line. 792 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 9: Because Jalen Carter in this game, Yeah, he was nuts, 793 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 9: absolute monster, absolute monster, bulldog. 794 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 4: We get it. 795 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, you got. 796 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 5: There basically playing the Georgia defense. 797 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 3: I what do. 798 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 5: I have, like like four or five Georgia defenders over there. 799 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 3: Four starters. 800 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 9: But if the way that he's playing, the way that 801 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 9: Brandon Graham was coming off the edge too, you get 802 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 9: away from all that, you get trade to the outside 803 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 9: and maybe you've got. 804 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 5: A shot there. 805 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 9: That's what I saw. That's what I said to myself 806 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 9: for the first time. Okay, this is where Trey Lance 807 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 9: might be able to give you something. But I understand 808 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 9: now I help yourself. 809 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 5: I do understand. 810 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 9: Mike McCarthy giving the ball to Rico Dowdell and Ezekiel 811 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 9: Aliat in the situation is because they were running the 812 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 9: ball so well in that first half. The offensive line 813 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 9: was getting good push in the run game. I mean, 814 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 9: we can give him that. 815 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: But why do I give yourself the added options? 816 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 5: That's my point. 817 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: That's tough, all right, we got to take our second break. 818 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 3: When we come back, we flip our attention to the 819 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball. Had some guys playing early, 820 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 3: had some guys not so much playing late. We'll talk 821 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 3: about each of those good at the bad, the ugly 822 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 3: of the Cowboys defense. In the thirty four to six 823 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 3: loss to Philadelphia. 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Welcome in on 870 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 3: this Monday, Patrick Noci Walker, Rosh Rodriguez, Tommy Yarish, Chris Beam. 871 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 3: In the back of Kyle Yeoman's breaking down the thirty 872 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 3: four to six Cowboys lost to Philadelphia, Dallas now three 873 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 3: and six. Best case scenario is the win out scenario, 874 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 3: and you're you've got eleven wins on the season. Uh yeah, 875 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 3: I mean I don't even know why. 876 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, no, I don't. I don't mean to dismiss 877 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 4: you at all. 878 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: Man. The next two games, what was that for the 879 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 3: next two games? Yeah, you've got the Houston Texans who 880 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 3: lost last night but are still really really good at 881 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 3: and then yeah, they're gonna be upset. And have you 882 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 3: won at home? No, you have. Actually, you're the first 883 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 3: team in history to trail by twenty points or more 884 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 3: at home in the last five game. Sick. Okay, who 885 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 3: you got after this? Then you've got this Washington team. Okay, 886 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,479 Speaker 3: all right, that's seven and three, but they just lost, 887 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 3: so they're also mad. 888 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so yeah extra large man. 889 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 3: Well that's gonna do it for us here talking Cowboys playoffs, 890 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk about the defense, because the defense showed 891 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 3: things at least in that first half that we haven't 892 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 3: seen all year. They get worn down, they get tired, 893 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 3: like we talked about with Tommy earlier. When you go 894 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 3: three and out, three and ow three and now pick 895 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 3: pick interception, I mean fumble whatever, it ends up being 896 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 3: the just the seven or eight drives straight of just 897 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 3: not good offense. It is going to wear down a defense. 898 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 3: Even the best in the business can't have that sort 899 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 3: of sustained success over and over and over again. What 900 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 3: was the best thing you saw and the worst thing 901 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 3: you saw from the Cowboys defense in the loss on Sunday, Patt, 902 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 3: I'll start with you, and. 903 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 7: This thing I saw was de Marveo Novas shown taking 904 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 7: another step toward being arguably the best Cowboys defender not 905 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 7: named Michael Parsons in twenty twenty five and beyond. I 906 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 7: just can't I can't state enough how impressed IM with 907 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 7: this young man, especially when you look at all the 908 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 7: variables surrounding his success. Right, he was essentially red shirted 909 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 7: by torn acl as his first season. 910 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 3: Another scary injury time out yesterday. 911 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 7: Another right, in training camp, he misses a good chunk 912 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 7: of training camp with the hip pointer. 913 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 3: Okay, so he misses those reps. 914 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 7: But he comes out Week one against the Cleveland Browns 915 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 7: and he plays some great freaking football. 916 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 3: Had a couple of. 917 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 7: Hiccups here and there, but then overall, his trajectory is 918 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 7: just exponentially taking leaps forward to the point where yesterday 919 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 7: you would have I mean, that was all pro level 920 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 7: football from the Marveon overshown all pro level football, to 921 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 7: the point where Micah Parsons himself said he'd reconsider his 922 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 7: role going forward so that he could stay on the 923 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 7: field with the Marveon overshown, like when you're playing so 924 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 7: well that you have a generational talent looking at the 925 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 7: defensive coordinator saying you know what put us on the 926 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 7: field at the same time from now on, that's big stuff. 927 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 7: So for me, it's to marve on overshown and Mike 928 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 7: had giving you some kind of life that you can maybe. 929 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 3: Have some fun with going forward. So that's the best thing. 930 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 7: The worst thing for me is just the struggles of 931 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 7: Kayln Carson tall Ask. He's only two games back, yeah, 932 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 7: only two Yeah, aj Brown tall asked only two games 933 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 7: back from his shoulder injury, having missed several games, and 934 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 7: it's just that's a lot to ask from the young man. 935 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 7: But at the same time, he's struggling with things like 936 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 7: miss tackles. His coverage is just not what I've seen 937 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 7: that it can be on film, and that allowed Jalen 938 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 7: Hurts and Kellen Moore to target him and go away 939 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 7: from Jordan Lewis, go away from Trayvon Diggs. So, you know, 940 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 7: Kayln Carson, he can be better. Hopefully he'll begin to 941 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 7: get better as the season goes on he starts to 942 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 7: get those reps. But yeah, that's the worst. But the 943 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 7: Marrion Overshown. He was a lighthouse for me yesterday. 944 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 6: The best that I saw from the defense, as far 945 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 6: as I mean first and second half defense. Obviously we're 946 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 6: talking about here right When you consider, like you said 947 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 6: to Marvin Overshone doing the most. 948 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 4: He was all over the field. 949 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 6: He made just about every single defensive play in the 950 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 6: first quarter and the second quarter. 951 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 4: To me, his passion is shining through. 952 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 6: I think the fact that he is just confident, you know, 953 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 6: because you're not seeing a lot of that on this team. 954 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 6: You're not seeing a lot of players like once they 955 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 6: make a tackle, get up and actually be passionate and 956 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 6: do something that's like I made this play for me, 957 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 6: Demarvin Overshone is going to be the heart of your 958 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 6: defense going forward, and it's. 959 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 4: Something to build on. 960 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 6: And not only that, but you have Trayvon Diggs who 961 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 6: was playing lights out in the first half. Granted they 962 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 6: were targeting Calen Carson all day. When you do get 963 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 6: to target Trayvon Diggs, what do you get interceptions? 964 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 2: Man? 965 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 4: I love that. I love seeing that. 966 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 6: I love the pressure that you were able to get 967 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 6: on Jalen Hurts in the first half yesterday because he 968 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 6: was uncomfortable, he was making poor decisions, his throws were aired, 969 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 6: and once the Philadelphia Eagles figured out, like, oh, the 970 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 6: Cow's offense is going to do anything, let's just sit back, 971 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 6: let's chill, let's take you know, let's take plays off. Basically, 972 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 6: if we need to live to see another down, because 973 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 6: we will score, we will end up scoring. But I 974 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 6: think that would be my worst part. There is the 975 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 6: fact that the defense, it's hard to say gave up, 976 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 6: but they let off the gas in the second half 977 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,879 Speaker 6: because the offense wasn't doing any because they were they 978 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 6: were and they were gassed of course, so that would 979 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 6: be sort of a micro causing both. 980 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 4: It's kind of good and bad. 981 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 9: Sure, I think the positive for me, and I was 982 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 9: telling Nick Harris, is this. On the drive back yesterday, 983 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 9: nobody talked about how the Cowboys held Saquon Barkley to 984 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 9: sixty six yards on the ground. 985 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 5: I mean that that's what's incredible. 986 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 3: That's one of believes. 987 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 9: Best running backs and a guy who easily could have 988 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 9: taken this game over, easily could have taken this game 989 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 9: over if he does Saquon Barkley things, if he jumps 990 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 9: over a guy backwards, whatever, it may be, so I 991 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 9: think that's a positive development for this run defense, which 992 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 9: has quite frankly, put together back to back pretty good 993 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 9: weeks defending two very good running backs and Jean Robinson 994 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 9: and Saquon Barkley. The flip side of that is that 995 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 9: this team is still struggling to defend quarterbacks that can run. 996 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 9: Jalen Hurts fifty six yards on seven carries for two touchdowns. 997 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 9: I know one of those was the touch push. But 998 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 9: when your defense is able to get pressure like that 999 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 9: and Jalen Hurts has to get out of the pocket 1000 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 9: and he just has nothing in. 1001 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 5: Front of him, nothing, it can't happen. 1002 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 9: And when it happens again and again, and there isn't 1003 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 9: an adjustment man to, you know, put a guy like 1004 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 9: Demarvion overshown on him, whether it be as a spy 1005 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 9: or just have him in the area, whatever it may be. 1006 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 9: If it keeps happening again and again and you don't 1007 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 9: adjust to it, then a guy like Jalen Hurts and 1008 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 9: what he's capable of doing, is going to take advantage of. 1009 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 5: That all day long. 1010 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 9: And I'll tell you this, I don't know if there 1011 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 9: would be a better candidate for a s and we've 1012 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,760 Speaker 9: seen it this year too than to marve on overshom 1013 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 9: considering how. 1014 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 5: Fast he closes. 1015 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 9: You saw it yesterday with how many with how fast 1016 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 9: he gets to the quarterback. 1017 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing is that the sack yesterday made 1018 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 3: me think back to the Deshaun Watson sack, and the 1019 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 3: way that he closed on Watson yesterday was more impressive 1020 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 3: to me because there was a visible second gear that 1021 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 3: Demo hit. Demo was already in the backfield and then 1022 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 3: he said, you know what, let me accelerate a little more. Yeah, 1023 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 3: and he just won am like Jalen, Like holy he 1024 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 3: absolutely that was one of the best defensive plays of 1025 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 3: the year. And it's all kind of going to get 1026 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 3: forgotten about in the long run because of what you're 1027 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 3: talking about. And I think, yeah, he's a dude, which 1028 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 3: is why, Like when he came out yesterday at the 1029 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 3: locker room and he was saying, hey, I'm good, Tuck 1030 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 3: to Nicole Hutcheson afterwards said I'm good. He said in 1031 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 3: the locker room, specifically to the media, I'll be back 1032 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 3: next week. That's all phenomenal news because he's a great dude. 1033 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 3: He's starting to turn into a leader, people are looking 1034 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 3: at him on the defensive side of the football, and 1035 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,479 Speaker 3: the fact that he plays the way that he does too. 1036 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 3: All of these things add up significantly to a guy 1037 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 3: who could get into Pro Bowl and All Pro territory, 1038 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 3: maybe not this year, but down the line as a 1039 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 3: part of the Cowboys defense. 1040 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 6: And I love it as far as building blocks, that 1041 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 6: is he's a guy one that is, that is your guy, 1042 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 6: that is the heart and soul of your defense. 1043 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 7: And you know what, that's got to make Cowboys fans 1044 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 7: feel fantastic because it's not been since the days of 1045 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 7: peak Sean Lee that you've been able to point at 1046 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 7: the linebacker corps in Dallas and say, we've got a dude. 1047 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 4: That dude. 1048 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 7: Now you can look at the Marvyn overshown and say, oh, 1049 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 7: we got it, we got ourselves in due. 1050 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 5: And the great thing about to Marvin Overson, I think. 1051 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 9: He is the start of this kind of new era 1052 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 9: that we're seeing with these hybrid linebackers, because when you 1053 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 9: think of linebackers in days past, I think Eric Kendricks 1054 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 9: is a perfect example of what you think about in 1055 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 9: a linebacker. Guy who's going to be everywhere and make 1056 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 9: all the tackles for you at the second level. To 1057 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 9: Marvion Overshown is this kind of new breed of linebacker 1058 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 9: that can kick it into that extra gear. They've got 1059 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 9: a little bit more speed, a little bit more length 1060 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 9: to him. He has a history playing safety back in 1061 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 9: his high school. Maybe he played a little bit of 1062 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 9: safety at Texas too, but that speed is such a 1063 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 9: difference maker, and I think you are seeing some of 1064 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 9: that too. And the college dress is a good example 1065 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 9: of that. Although he's heard unfortunately for the rest of 1066 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 9: the year is Harold Perkins, just because he has that 1067 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 9: extra gear to him where he can get after the quarterback. 1068 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 3: Anthony Hill, who wears number zero for example of that, 1069 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,399 Speaker 3: wear the same uniform. Devo Ward Texas a similar deal. 1070 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 5: You're looking at a stockier version of Demarvions. 1071 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 9: Texas, shorter, but he still does a lot of the 1072 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 9: same things. So de Marvion overshon is a great example 1073 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 9: of this kind of i'll say new era, although we've 1074 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 9: seen other guys like that. I think Isaiah Simmons is a 1075 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 9: good NFL example. I don't it hasn't panned out. I 1076 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 9: don't think like some people thought it has. 1077 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 3: And maybe I think Micah was that initially until they 1078 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 3: kind of full time threw him on the defense because 1079 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 3: it was such a good it was so good as 1080 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 3: a pass rusher. He could have been that previously. But 1081 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 3: now you have both which in a good way, and 1082 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 3: you have an elite pass rusher and you have that hybrid, 1083 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 3: and when. 1084 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 5: You have them both on the field at the same time, 1085 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 5: a lot of good things. 1086 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 3: Gimme, dude, Yeah, a lot. 1087 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 5: Of good things are going to happen. 1088 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 7: Will That's one of the high points. One of the 1089 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 7: few high points of the game is that sack from 1090 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 7: overshown and you could almost see the terror in Jalen 1091 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 7: hurts his eyes as he's running full of speed and 1092 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 7: the opposite direction, praying that he can get out an 1093 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 7: opportunity to turn the corner. But there's no corner to 1094 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 7: be turned. So the marvele and over shown is at 1095 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 7: your front door. 1096 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 3: There's not a whole lot of times where there's an 1097 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 3: audible response. It's only a couple times a game from 1098 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 3: the press box. Usually it's silent in there audible response, 1099 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 3: especially especially not Josh. Throughout the game, you're silent. But 1100 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 3: then that demo play happened, and like the whole press 1101 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 3: box was like you could hear it. It was almost 1102 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 3: in simultaneous unison. Are yeah, whoa, it was just few 1103 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 3: What was did you guys? Give you the worst thing 1104 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 3: that you saw? Yeah, I did. 1105 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 12: It was Carson and then mine was, oh gosh, now 1106 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 12: I'm blinking inability to stop the Thank you, quarterback, thank you, 1107 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:20,959 Speaker 12: and you brought up the point. 1108 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley second lowest total on the ground this year. 1109 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,760 Speaker 3: The only other team that held him for fewer yards, 1110 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 3: oddly enough, was the Cleveland Browns. 1111 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 4: At least we got him right, Yeah. 1112 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 3: He did. 1113 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 7: Cowboys had a chance to win this game. It was 1114 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 7: seventy three for the longest, fourteen to six good half. 1115 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 7: Your defense did exactly what it needed to do. Offense 1116 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 7: did absolutely nothing. 1117 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,720 Speaker 9: That would have been a seventeen to seven or seventeen 1118 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 9: fourteen game. 1119 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 3: At half two, yeah, out, one team went and grabbed it. 1120 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 3: The other team had a chance to grab it and 1121 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 3: did not do it. Wait, we tried to pick it 1122 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 3: up and tried to pick it up three hundred pound 1123 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 3: rock bottom. Baby. All right, that does it for us 1124 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 3: here on talking Cowboys. We will be back tomorrow, Tommy. 1125 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 5: Great job on your debut. 1126 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 3: Thank you, no surprise. You can read Tommy's work on 1127 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. He'll pop in sporadically when Isaiah 1128 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 3: is not available. You can hear him on the Fan 1129 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 3: Tuesdays at nine twenty Tuesdays at nine twenty on the 1130 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 3: Fan one to five three the Fan with Sean and 1131 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 3: r Jy in the morning, so he's doing his radio 1132 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 3: hit listen to us and you can tune in to 1133 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 3: Tommy on Tuesdays as well. It'll be a whole lot 1134 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 3: of fun. We'll see you around as well. 1135 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 5: Absolutely for Chris, be. 1136 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,439 Speaker 3: For Tommy, Ourrish for Josh Rodriguez, Patrick, walk around, Kyle 1137 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 3: Yoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys, We'll see you 1138 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 3: tomorrow for a Talking Tuesday. 1139 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1140 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.