1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles ahead. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: He got jacked. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 3: This is the Big Red Radio presented by santan Ford 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 3: in Gilbert. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 4: Harry's Gonna score touchdown Slim to the ground by Buddha 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 4: Baker Like a torpedo. He came flying into the back 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 4: of del. 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: The Rage is brought to you by santan Ford in Gilbert. 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Are you santan Ford State Farm? Talk to an agent 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: today at eight hundred State Farm. 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I'm telling you 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 5: I'm ready. 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: And Ron Wilfley, if it doesn't get any better than that, 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: I leash the Fiord. 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 5: We might be the original Thursday Night football, But tis 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 5: the time of the season, Ron Wolfley, where we're not 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 5: the only game in town, the only football on air. 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 5: Let there be NFL action tonight, the Hall of Fame game. 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 5: We've been there and done that Canton, Ohio and early August, 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 5: have we not? In fact, last time we were in 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 5: canad Ohio for the Hall of Fame game. I'm gonna 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 5: name drop here. Are you ready for this? Ron Wolfe? No, 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 5: I'm not balling your nemesis from your entire playing career. Oh, 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 5: I don't know. Arguably the greatest defensive player ever for 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 5: the New York Giants. 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: It was. 31 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 5: It was the second half and somebody was kicking into 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 5: the kicking net on the Cardinals sideline and I'm like, well, 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 5: who's that because it's definitely not one of the Cardinals kickers. 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 5: And I turn around and it's Lt. LT. Just he 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 5: had a cigar in one and and he had a 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 5: beverage in the other, and he was decided to work 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 5: on his place kicking in the Cardinals net on the 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 5: sideline of the Hall of Fame games. 39 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: I can't even believe that. 40 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: But LT does what LT does on a football field, 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: and you let him do it, Balie. 42 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 5: Nobody's telling him otherwise on a gridiron, That's for sure. 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 5: It's a big red rage presented by santan Ford and 44 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 5: Gilbert We are santan Ford, Paul Kelbc, Ron wolf Lee 45 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 5: soon to be joined by Will Hernandez. I don't see 46 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 5: a lot of people telling Will Hernandez what to do either, 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 5: lest they risk their well being put into what PAULI. Honestly, 48 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 5: once again, I just want to say this. I've said 49 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 5: this before and you know this, buddy. If you go 50 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 5: back and you look at the nine games that Will 51 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 5: Hernandez played last year, I'm telling you, PAULI, I do 52 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 5: believe over the course of those nine games he was 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 5: the most consistent offensive lineman the Arizona Cardinals had before 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 5: he got hurt. I'm bullish, I'm Will Hernandez. I love 55 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 5: his physicality, I love the mentality that he has. I 56 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 5: love him at right guard. Right now, I'm expecting big 57 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 5: things from Will Hernandez. Let's get right into it. Second 58 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 5: padded practice today here at Cardinals camp right powered by 59 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 5: Cox and it was a line D line drills. Yes, 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 5: Will Hernandez fared very well. In fact, there was one 61 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 5: titanic match up him against Lecky to that's about seven 62 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 5: hundred pounds of dude, right there are those two going 63 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 5: at it. 64 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: And that's a lot of beefy. 65 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a heavyweight tilt right there. But it's 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 5: his new right tackle. It's Paris Johnson Junior. It was 67 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 5: Paris Johnson Junior early his first rep O Line D 68 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 5: line drills Kidding School by Dennis Garden. 69 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: I saw that Polly with the spin move. 70 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 5: And then you could tell he wasn't happy. And so 71 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 5: then midway through he took care of a couple of guys, 72 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 5: but he still had his eye on forty five. He 73 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 5: wanted Dennis Gardeck again. He wanted the rematch. Okay, I 74 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 5: missed that Polly, and they got the rematch. It was 75 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 5: the second last rep of O line D line and 76 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: Paris Johnson Junior boom. He stoned him. He just tied 77 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 5: him up and then and then sort of finished him 78 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 5: at the end, sort of went Will Hernandez because Will 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 5: has a tendency to finish some of those blocks and 80 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 5: for a guy down to the ground, to the very end, 81 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 5: and then Garda got up and they wapped it up 82 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 5: and the coaches came in and boomed, that was a 83 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 5: great wrap to Olne D line. 84 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that is that's the way it ought to be. 85 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: PAULI right there, honestly, And if Paris Johnson did not 86 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: respond in that way, because I saw him, I saw 87 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: him get beat on that spin move and it was 88 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: it was a great move by Dennis Gardik. That would 89 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: have been as sack right there, or really what if 90 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: that's how quickly Dennis Gardak the Barbarian, that's how quickly 91 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: he got that inside right there. But Paris Johnson Jr. 92 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to see that, Paul. That shows me a 93 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 1: little something right there. He's got a little stin coming 94 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: out of the side of his neck. That's what you 95 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: got to have if you want to play this game. 96 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: Well. 97 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 5: And look the right side of the old line I 98 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 5: think is decided. It's Will Hernandez is Paris Johnson Jr. 99 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 5: Who's starting a center right now. It's the older role hole. 100 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 5: But Pat Elfline, who has forty career starts the center, 101 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 5: is slowly making his way up the depth chart, running 102 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 5: second team center today, so we'll see where that's tracking. 103 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 5: John Gaines, the fourth round rookie of UCLA, who was 104 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 5: second team center, is now running second team guard. 105 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: I saw that, PAULI. 106 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: That was really interesting right there to me because now 107 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they moved him behind Will Hernandez, 108 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: did they not. That's that's great for John gains It 109 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: really is, because I think he'll have the opportunity to develop. 110 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: He's not going to compete with Will Hernandez for the 111 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: starting position. That's I think something that is done strategically 112 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: by JG and maybe even many Austin Ford in on 113 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: that to move them over and let those two centers 114 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: Froholt and lf Line let them go at it. 115 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 5: Key Trel Clark had a good practice. We'll get into 116 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 5: cornerback here a little bit later in this edition of 117 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 5: the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. 118 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 5: But he had a pass breakup on the final play 119 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 5: of team drills that resulted in an interception by Juju Hughes. Okay, 120 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 5: so there was that, and then there was Greg Dortch. 121 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 5: Just like last year in camp. Derch is consistent. He 122 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 5: has a high motor. He's making plays. He's a difference maker. 123 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 5: He had a great diving catch out of bounds from 124 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 5: Clayton Tune, which brings us to the rookie quarterback because 125 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 5: the hype train is officially leaving the station, Clayton Tune 126 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 5: getting more first team reps today. At times. There was 127 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 5: Honathan Gannon meeting the media before practice, asked about Clayton 128 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 5: Tune and look, he qualified it by saying he's got 129 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 5: a lot to learn every single day. He's got to 130 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 5: learn a lot. But then he also went on to 131 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 5: say about Claytonton, the fifth round rookie quarterback out of Houston, 132 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 5: that he's brutally honest with himself when he makes a mistake, 133 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 5: he has no problems citing it. Try very important. 134 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: He heard me talk about that right there. Tell the truth, 135 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: Always tell the truth about yourself. 136 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 5: Kannon San also about Clayton Tune. I like that he 137 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 5: can play fast, he has command of the huddle. You 138 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 5: see the arm talent. So those are all the quotes 139 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 5: that got sent out, okay, but on the front and 140 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 5: back end, he also said he's still got a long 141 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 5: way to go. 142 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 1: He still got a long way to go, right there, Pauly, honestly, listen, 143 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: I think JG's doing the right thing. I'm sure he's 144 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: trying to give a little sugar to Clayton Tune right there, 145 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: give him a little confidence maybe BALI right, bring him along, 146 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: of course you want to do that. 147 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: I just don't. 148 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't see any scenario right now where Clayton Tune 149 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: beats out Colt MCA without even playing in a preseason game. 150 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: I just don't see that being possible at all. 151 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 5: That's just me and we talked about it with Drew 152 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 5: stan this morning on the Red Sea Report. Wolf. Even 153 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 5: if Clayton Tune goes out and has a perfect passer 154 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: rating in three preseason games, it's nothing like what he'll 155 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 5: face in Week one against Washington. He's not gonna see 156 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 5: anything in August that Ron Rivere is gonna throw at him. 157 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 5: Week one at Washington, He's not gonna see anyone along 158 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 5: the lines of Doron Payne and Jonathan Allen and Montes 159 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 5: Sweat and Chase Young. Yes, so Colt McCoy in his 160 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 5: fourteenth season, I agree with you. There's no scenario under 161 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 5: which unless unless somehow you know, Colt has a drop 162 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 5: off at age thirty seven. 163 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: PAULI, listen once again there. What I said is, there's 164 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: no way Clayton Tune is going to start before Colt 165 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: McCoy before a preseason game is played. That's what I 166 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: meant right there. There's no way you've got to throw McCay. 167 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean, not cold McCoy, Clayton Tune. You got to 168 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: throw him, PAULI, out into the silks when the preseason 169 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: games are going and you got to see how he's 170 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: going to do. You got to find out how he's 171 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: going to play when the lights are on and the 172 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: bullets metaphorically speaking, are real. There's no way I see 173 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: him starting until they play preseason games, and who knows. Hey, listen, 174 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: if Clayton Tune goes out there and lights it up, 175 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: if he goes out there and plays incredibly well in 176 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: all three preseason games, the only thing I would say 177 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: is it may shorten the pull. If you will shorten 178 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: the leash on Colt McCoy if in fact they're losing 179 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: games in September. 180 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 5: And here's the other thing we don't know on Colt McCoy. 181 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 5: A year ago, when Kyler Murray is dealing with the 182 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 5: wrist and then COVID Colt got a lot of action 183 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 5: norton him a number of throws and then they had 184 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 5: to shut him down. So I think they're being ultra 185 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 5: careful with a cold McCoy this time around, which results 186 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 5: in Clayton Tune getting extra reps with the first team. 187 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 5: At least that's one theory we'll see. You also see 188 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 5: Kyler Murray out here talking with Jonathan Gannon a lot, 189 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 5: and they'll be behind the defense. Gannon watching everything. Kyler 190 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 5: Murray standing next to his new head coach, and JG 191 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 5: was asked today about those conversations. 192 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 6: He's kind of a ball junkie, you know what I mean, 193 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 6: and he wants to understand the why, why is ralis 194 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 6: doing that? You know, why is Marco playing it that way? 195 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 6: Why is this going on? You know? I try to 196 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 6: educate him on those things. He wants to know defense, 197 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Good quarterbacks do so. And 198 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 6: he's very intelligent. You can talk with him to a 199 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 6: level of like he's a coach, you know what I mean, 200 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 6: because he's smart and he understands. And it's also for 201 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 6: me really good for me to hear his perspective. 202 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 5: Interesting JG talking about Nick Rowlis, a defensive coordinator as 203 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 5: the head coach, and QB one Kyler Murray talking ball 204 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 5: watching the team drills. 205 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: I absolutely love that right there, because that's exactly what 206 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: Kyler needs. A head coach who totally understands defensive football 207 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: to actually take Kyler Murray through the process of what 208 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: is being called, the plays that they're running, the schemes 209 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: that they're running, and why they're running, the why behind 210 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: it all. This is part of the next step for 211 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray poly You hear me talking about this all 212 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: the time, that he's got to evolve his game. He's 213 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: got to evolve his game going forward, especially from under center. 214 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: Why are defenses doing this? What's the weakness of this defense? 215 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: I think JG wants to talk to Kyler Murray through 216 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: these plays to see how he's processing these plays. Is 217 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: he seeing what he should be seeing standing there with JG. 218 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 5: Very interesting to me because look, for everything that Kyler 219 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 5: has done in his career, he never had a chance 220 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 5: to just sort of soak it in from the sideline, 221 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 5: you know, kind of what can I learn through osmosis? 222 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 5: What can I learn from a veteran quarterback that he 223 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 5: never really had as a rookie. He was the franchise quarterback, 224 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 5: the starting quarterback from the moment he was drafted. So 225 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 5: is this an ideal scenario where he's coming back from 226 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 5: a knee injury. Obviously not, But this is the one 227 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 5: aspect of it that I think can be beneficial, especially 228 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 5: if he's watching cold McCoy run an offense that guess 229 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 5: what Cole McCoy has run before, David Blau has run before. Yes, 230 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 5: Kyler Murray to our knowledge, has never run anything quite 231 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 5: like this scheme. 232 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: There's no doubt Bully once again a lot of the 233 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: shotgun and a lot of the spread offense at Kyler 234 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Murray is very, very familiar with the decisions are made. 235 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: You're reading one guy. Basically, you're reading the defense nonetheless, 236 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: but you're reading one guy in a gross simplification of 237 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: the truth. And whatever that guy does, he makes up 238 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: your decision for you. This is a completely different offense 239 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: this part of it. They're still going to run the spread, 240 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: They're still going to have elements of the shotgun of 241 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: course in Pistol Pauali. They're still going to do it all. 242 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: But now Kyler also has to read coverage. And that's 243 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: the difference. When you put them under center and you 244 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: use play action, he's gonna have to read. 245 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 5: By the way, is the DNA of the Drew Petsing 246 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 5: scheme on display right now in the Hall of Fame 247 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 5: game the Cleveland Browns, his former team, and what they're running. 248 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 5: Do you think what we're seeing tonight we're apt to 249 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 5: see next Friday night when the Cardinals debut in the 250 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 5: preseason against Denver. 251 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question right there. I do believe Pauali. 252 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: Right now, if you were to watch this game, if 253 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: you were to break it down right now, you would 254 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: see an awful lot of the schemes that Drew Pettsing 255 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: and the Arizona Cardinals are going to be running against 256 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos on August eleven. Right here, you're seeing 257 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: it right now. There's a lot of twelve personnel, two 258 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: tight ends right one back, two tight ends, even thirteen personnel. 259 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: I've seen that already. Right now. They're mixing up the 260 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: tackle zone where you're attacking the line of scrimmage. Of course, 261 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: they're also running some power plays. They do an awful 262 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: lot of it. And once again, PAULI, that's really going 263 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: to be important for the Cardinals to do that. It's 264 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: gonna be important because you got to get this stuff 265 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: on tape, Paul, you gotta get this on tape because 266 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: then you can teach everybody. That's when you really learn. 267 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: When the silks are on and you're out there and 268 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: you're playing football. 269 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: And it's live, it's full going. 270 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: You got the mouthguard in, you can break that tape down, man, 271 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: and just because one guy makes a mistake, he's gonna 272 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: be able to teach a lot of other guys not 273 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: to make the same mistake. They need tape, that's what 274 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: they need. And that's why you need your You might 275 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,479 Speaker 1: not be playing your starters, but you need your schemes 276 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: to be on display for everybody so you can teach 277 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: off of it. 278 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 5: Preseason opener Arizona Cardinals hosting Denver right here at State 279 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 5: Farm Stadium next Friday, August eleventh. Right, And it's a 280 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 5: perivial question, right, how much is too much to show 281 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 5: in the preseason? How much do you need? You know? 282 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 5: But remember twenty nineteen Cardinals didn't get nearly enough action 283 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 5: in the preseason and show that debut against the Lion 284 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 5: back with more on the Big Red Rage presented by 285 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 5: Santan Ford in Gilbert. 286 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: Back to Mascos Dalton. On first down, Fuyers over the 287 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 4: middle and the ball is tipped. 288 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 5: Into the air and picked off the thirty yard line. 289 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: Running left and the money Marco Wilson to the ted 290 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 4: the high steps he then he. 291 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 5: Doesn't flip into the ENDZM. 292 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: The doc cown Marco. 293 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 5: Wilson in a pick six. 294 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: Pavin Cardinals take a lane twenty to fourteen. 295 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: Boy, did you see Marco Wilson elevate on that you 296 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: tad touchdown flip. 297 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 4: What was kind of money is they're showing the camera 298 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: angle of Andy Dalton being upset and in the background 299 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: you can see Wilson will launch it into the air 300 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 4: like it's just part of the background. 301 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 5: It looks quite humorous. All I have to do is 302 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 5: google it up. I just did front flip. Pick six 303 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 5: was insane Marco Wilson. And then there's all the memes. 304 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 5: I mean, you talk about a memorable moment from lam season, 305 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 5: that meme of Andy Dalton in the foreground lamenting the 306 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 5: pick sixty just threw at the very moment that Marco 307 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 5: Wilson is airborne in the background doing a flip into 308 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 5: the end zone. Talk about sticking the landing and punctuating 309 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 5: that big play. Marco Wilson with a ridiculous athleticism on 310 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 5: display last year on Thursday Night against the Saints. 311 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: Pauly, Honestly, that might be the most athletic thing I've 312 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: ever seen on a football field. Seriously, I've seen a 313 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: lot of great athletes. I've witnessed it myself. I've seen 314 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: a lot of games. Of course, I've seen a lot 315 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: of great athletes do some great things. That was one 316 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: of the most athletic athletic moves I've ever seen. The 317 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: way he jumped at first and then flipped at the end. 318 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: It was unbelievable how he did and the vertical on 319 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: that the elevation incredible. 320 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 5: And then if you YouTube up what he did as 321 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 5: a youngster as a teenager, Oh yeah, right, it really 322 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 5: is insane. 323 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: Anybody call that park what they call it right there? Park? Okay, 324 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: I know you were big in the park, Paul. 325 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 5: All I know is from the sideline from ground level, 326 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 5: You're like, okay, what is he doing? Where is he going? 327 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 5: He took off at about the seven yard line. It 328 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 5: was like Michael Jordan taking off from the free throw 329 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 5: line in the slam duncan. 330 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: Flip. 331 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 5: It's almost like he vaulted and then figured out mill 332 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 5: or what I'm gonna do. So there you go. That's 333 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 5: Marco Wilson, who at the time was cornerback three. He's 334 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 5: now cornerback one by our Murphy Leftia free agency. Antonio Hamilton, 335 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 5: who won the number two corner job out of camp 336 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 5: last year and then got it back by the end 337 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 5: of the season. Well, guess what he is now competing 338 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 5: to be the starting corner opposite Marco Wilson, who has 339 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 5: the insane athleticism. We've already established that here's the defensive 340 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,359 Speaker 5: corner and Nick rollis on a chat he had recently 341 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 5: with cornerback one Marco Wilson. 342 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 7: He know, I've talked to Marco specifically and told him, like, 343 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 7: you have all the ability to be a number one 344 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 7: corner in this league, and that's what I expect. But 345 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 7: you know, I'm going to hold you accountable and try 346 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 7: to get you better every day. Coach Smith, he's going 347 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 7: to do the same thing. JG's going to do the 348 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 7: same thing. 349 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: You know. 350 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 7: JJ's background is coaching those dvs and he's responded great 351 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 7: to it. 352 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 5: How does he take that next step Wolf, and how 353 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 5: vital is it to this team, this defense that he 354 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 5: plays like a number one cornerback. 355 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think it's really really important. I think 356 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: when you talk about the cornerback room, you've got to 357 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: start there. 358 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: It really is. 359 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: I know that we have been talking awful lot about 360 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: cornerback number two and cornerback number three and who who 361 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: it might be and who's going to be the starter 362 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: opposite of Marco Wilson. Marco Wilson is somebody can't just 363 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: gloss over because he's got so much raw talent right now, 364 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: he's got to take that next step forward. He's got 365 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: to do that, Pauli. Nobody else can do it for him. 366 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson has got to be that guy who embraces 367 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: the challenge of truly becoming a cornerback one, a CB one, 368 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: because he's got that kind of ability, He's got that 369 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: kind of raw talent and athleticism. He's got that. Now 370 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: he's got to go out and pursue it. Paully, it's 371 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: got to matter to him too, And that's where you 372 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: got to start Marco Wilson in his development before he 373 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: can talk about anybody else. 374 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 5: It's a game of matchup. How many times do we 375 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: hear that? And so you're going Week one against Washington 376 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 5: Terry McLaurin, Pro Bowl receiver. What are you gonna do 377 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 5: if you're Nick Rolis a defensive coordinator. Sure, I guess 378 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 5: you can throw a zone. You have some help over 379 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 5: top with the safety. Yeah, I guess you can scheme 380 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 5: around it. But ideally you'd love to throw your number 381 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 5: one corner on an island out against the other team's 382 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 5: number one receiver. Do the Cardinals have that ability? Do 383 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 5: they have that player? Is he really a cornerback two 384 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 5: who's just going to be put in position of a 385 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 5: number one corner? 386 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: You know what exactly do they have in Marco Wilson? Yeah, exactly. 387 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: And even the old coaching staff would tell you. Remember Paulli, 388 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: they were trying to poke him a little bit, jab 389 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: him a little bit in last training camp as a 390 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: matter of fact, to get him to respond. They wanted 391 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 1: to see him get better. Hopefully EJG. And Nick Rolis 392 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: they're not going to have to do that at all. 393 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: He's going to be the guy responsible for getting better. 394 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: But it all starts with Marco Wilson after that, PAULI, 395 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: it's going to be really interesting to me to see 396 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: what they do. You know, Key Trell Clark is getting 397 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: an awful lot of reps. You talk about this all 398 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: the time. Christian Matthew is getting a lot of reps 399 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: as well. It's going to be really interesting. Antonio Hamilton, 400 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: how is he going to factor in. 401 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: To this cornerback room and playing time as well. 402 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: It's one of the positions I look at and I 403 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: think of Jonathan Gannon immediately because he was talking about 404 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: how competitive this training camp was going to be. He 405 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: was going to open it up. He wants people to 406 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: know there are no jobs here that are locked up. 407 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: We're in a prove it game. It's a meritocracy, the 408 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: NFL one of the biggest meritocracy. He's on the planet. 409 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: You've got to go prove your worth. You've got to 410 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: go prove that you own that job. And I love 411 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: that mentality. We're showing up the most, maybe the corner room. 412 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 5: And I tell you, if there's one position group where 413 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon has an expert opinion, it's corner. That's his 414 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 5: position of specialty, going back ten years as an assistant coach, 415 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: as a position coach, it's corner. You see him all 416 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 5: the time during these practices. 417 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 8: Wolf. 418 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 5: We witness it. He's thirty yards behind the line of 419 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 5: scrimmage looking at everything, and then he'll come running up 420 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 5: and talk to a corner and then he'll go back 421 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 5: to his position as overseeing the entire practice. But he 422 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 5: always has something to say to the various corners. And 423 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 5: it is a wide open competition behind Marco Wilson. In fact, 424 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 5: Nick Rawlis was asked about everybody else and just how 425 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 5: close he might be the naming cornerback too. 426 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 7: It's a young group with talent, with a high ceiling, 427 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 7: and I like the way they show up and work 428 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 7: in meetings. 429 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 9: You know, there's a. 430 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 7: Lot of details to that position, to that technique. Those 431 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 7: guys are technicians out there, and you have to be 432 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 7: obsessed with that spot and your craft. 433 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: How close are you deciding on who's going to be two? 434 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 9: Not close? 435 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 7: It's a good competition right now. We got a lot 436 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 7: of camp to go and I got to see who's 437 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 7: who's going to merge to play certain roles. 438 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 5: I'll give you an example today's practice, Greg Dortch making 439 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 5: a lot of guys look bad. Mm hm, you know 440 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 5: like the Dorch right, I mean he made he made 441 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 5: so he made some plays. And then all of a sudden, 442 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 5: towards the end of the one on one drills against 443 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 5: the corners, Antonio Hamilton came up press man right in 444 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 5: his grill, and he shadowed them all the way down 445 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 5: the sideline and he was right with him step for step. 446 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: So Antonio Hamilton, who's actually the one guy older than 447 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 5: his defensive coordinator, thirty year old Nick rollis he has 448 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 5: that experience he's used every single year of his career, 449 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 5: he's had to fight for a spot in the fifty three. 450 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 5: Antonio Hamilton has that dog mentality, and he has a 451 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 5: supreme confidence that he's been there and done that. And 452 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 5: I'm curious by the time we're done with Cardinals Camp, 453 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 5: if Antonio Hamilton doesn't end up right where he ended 454 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 5: up last year as the opposite starting corner in this scheme, that's. 455 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: A possibility, Paul, it really is right now. But I 456 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: love Nick Roll it's right there once again saying we're 457 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: not even close. We're not even close to figuring out 458 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: who's number two and number three. Boy, that sends a 459 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: message to everybody that is fighting to be that corner 460 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: opposite of Marco Wilson at this point in time. Christian Matthew. 461 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: Of course, here's a guy that's got size to play 462 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: on the perimeter, size to play on the edge out there, 463 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: six ' two, one hundred and ninety five pounds. 464 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: That's a big corner. Oh yeah, right. 465 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: There, Paully, And you know, Key Troll Clark I think 466 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: is maybe a little bit better suited at five ten 467 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: and one hundred and eighty five pounds, one hundred and 468 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: eighty one pounds somewhere in that vicinity. Maybe he's a 469 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: little better suited to be that nickel guy in the slot. 470 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: We'll see. 471 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 5: Christian Matthew had a learning moment today. He was right there, 472 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 5: step for step, stride for stride is one on one. 473 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 5: In the very end, he got handsy, he got he 474 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 5: got a hand up in the sho shoulder pad and 475 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 5: he got flagged because they have officials working at and 476 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 5: Nick Rowlis came out and basically explained to him that 477 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 5: wasn't necessary. You're right there in coverage. Don't give him 478 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: the flag, don't give them the first down because you 479 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: see Christian Matthew wear those oven mits. Yes, when you 480 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 5: get grabby, and so it's trying to teach those guys. 481 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 5: Here's my other working theory when it comes to this, Well, 482 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 5: how many times have we seen a three safety scheme? Buddha, Baker, 483 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 5: Jalen Thompson and Isaiah Simmons. What position did Isaiah Simmons 484 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 5: play more than any other? Last year? Slot corner? Jalen 485 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 5: Thompson could play in the slot. We know Buddha can 486 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 5: play in the slot, so you know, maybe there's just 487 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 5: two corners and then that three safety alignment. 488 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, once again, let's just fine Isaiah up in one 489 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: position and please tell him go play football. 490 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 5: Will Hernandez next, and the Big Red Rage presented by 491 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 5: santan Ford in Gilbert. 492 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 9: We got a good group of guys that's just like 493 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 9: great dudes that want to play football. 494 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: So it's easy to mingle with the group. 495 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 9: Is easy to interject young office alignment into the room 496 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 9: and it'd be fun. Oh man, me and Farris are 497 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 9: already clicking. Man, such a cool guy, very smart. We 498 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 9: even have our own handshake going on. Already there you 499 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 9: go and already, well, I'll give you guys a clue. 500 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 9: It's you. We wouldn't call it a handshake. We would 501 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 9: call it more of a belly shake. 502 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 5: Will Hernandez there with Wolf and Luke. Will Hernandez here 503 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 5: on the Big Red Raid presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. 504 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 5: We are santan Ford and we're also trying to figure 505 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 5: out should we try to voke that visual there. Well, 506 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 5: I'm not sure the belly shake, I'm not sure if 507 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 5: i'd you know, should we just allow that to happen 508 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 5: organically during the season when would you bust out the 509 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 5: belly shake that you describe there would be like fourth 510 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 5: and gold and boom, you come off the ball and 511 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 5: you punch it in. 512 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 9: Would that be apropos Yeah, definitely appropriate. But you know, 513 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 9: the belly shake is gonna happen pretty much at the 514 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 9: start of every drive, really, and that's that's just how 515 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 9: we're gonna set the tone in the huddle. Okay, as 516 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 9: far as the right side, but yeah, I'm sure it's 517 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 9: not something that everybody wants to imagine, but it is 518 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 9: something that's going to. 519 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 5: Happen, which I'm just gonna be honest here. It leads 520 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 5: us into our next question. Last we heard from you. 521 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 5: Let's just say that you're listing on the roster here 522 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 5: three point thirty two true or false? It was false, 523 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 5: then are you any closer to the three thirty two 524 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 5: now or in the interest of the belly shaker, you're 525 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 5: going to keep that classified information? 526 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 9: Well, the way doesn't change anything with the handshake. It's 527 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 9: still going to be there. It's still going to be 528 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 9: just as electric. Definitely closer to that number. So we'll 529 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 9: say true, end false. 530 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 5: Gotcha, well done? All right. Will Hernandez is our guest 531 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 5: so your new right tackle, at least so far, has 532 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 5: been Paris Johnson Junior. How long does it tell you 533 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: take you to tell if a rookie can play? I 534 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 5: was talking to some of the receivers and you know players, 535 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 5: no players, right, They said, how long before you can 536 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 5: tell a newcomer can play the spot? And they said, 537 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 5: you know what these veterans were saying, Michael Wilson came in. 538 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 5: It took us one practice half a practice to realize, 539 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 5: you know what, this kid can play. How about you? 540 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 5: When you see an offensive lineman for the first time. 541 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 9: Usually pretty quickly starting with their the way they think, 542 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 9: their mentality, how they talk about the game, how they 543 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 9: you know, handle themselves, what they do you know, when 544 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 9: something does go wrong, usually gives you a good idea. 545 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 9: And then after that it's just after the first pad 546 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 9: of practice. Really you can't. It's hard to judge off 547 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 9: of you know, it's just helmets or when we're out 548 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 9: there in shorts and our OTAs. So I usually you know, 549 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 9: can tell right after the padded practice. But honestly I 550 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 9: had I didn't even have to wait until the padded 551 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 9: practice with Paris, Uh, you know, he proved himself earlier 552 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 9: than that, And you know, I just had a good 553 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 9: feeling that he's just a baller. And you know, it 554 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 9: started all with the way he thinks in his mentality, 555 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 9: which I really like. So definitely a good fit for us, 556 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 9: Definitely the real deal, and he's going to help us 557 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 9: out for sure. 558 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 5: I mean, he's a massive human being, he's athletic, and 559 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 5: from what I can tell, he's intense. He's got a 560 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 5: mean streak about him, doesn't he? Oh yeah, So what 561 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 5: do you think that right side of the line. I mean, 562 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 5: when it's when it's third and short and you guys, 563 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 5: I mean, the two of you, it would seem like, 564 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 5: you know, your chemistry. How long does it take to 565 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 5: develop that chemistry? They will always hear about with offensive linemen, 566 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 5: how long you know, since you guys are brand new. 567 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 9: You know, it's hard to tell. You know, guys can 568 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 9: get it on the first rep. Guys can it can 569 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 9: take him a few weeks at the end of camp whatever. 570 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 9: But with me and Paris so far, it felt like 571 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 9: it's happened pretty right off the bat, organically, didn't have 572 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 9: to force anything. So it's been very very good, very simple, 573 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 9: very easy. And then we're just building off of that 574 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 9: right now, because we're never going to start, you know, 575 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 9: thinking something's good enough. 576 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 5: What's going to be his biggest challenge? Will Hernandez our 577 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 5: guest in the Big Red Rage. You're a high draft 578 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 5: pick once upon a time. You know, he only knows 579 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 5: what he knows. Yeah, he's going to find out when 580 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 5: regular season games start, and you know what, look at 581 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 5: the first part of the Cardinals schedule. I mean, look 582 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 5: at your first game. You guys are going against Jonathan 583 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 5: Allen and Deron Payne and Montes Sweat and Chase Young 584 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 5: right out at they gave What is he going to 585 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 5: find out about the NFL real soon? 586 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 9: You know, he'll find out real quick that. You know, 587 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 9: pretty much his best matchup that he ever had in 588 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 9: college is going to be pretty much every snap now. 589 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 9: And I think he has a mentality to take it on. 590 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 9: I'm not saying he's gonna be perfect. I'm not saying 591 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 9: it's gonna be easy for him, or I'm not making 592 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 9: any predictions. I'm just saying, based on knowing the guy personally, 593 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 9: watching him practice, playing right next to him, I think 594 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 9: he'll be able to handle adversity very well because at 595 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 9: the end of the day happens to everybody, all of us, 596 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 9: no matter how good we are. 597 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 5: He talked about how, well, let's just put it this way, 598 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 5: how needy some of the veterans might be in the 599 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 5: offensive line room. That you guys have been pretty demanding 600 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 5: when it comes to some of the requests for the rookies, 601 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 5: be the drinks, the snacks. Somebody even mandated that the 602 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 5: sandwiches be cut into triangles. Really really, will you. 603 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 9: Know what, I'll go back to your last question. That's 604 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 9: going to be the hardest part for him to understand. 605 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 9: He needs to understand that we have needs and those 606 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 9: needs need to be met. 607 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 5: The most demanding offensive lineman in that room. 608 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 9: Uh, you know what, I'll give it to the to 609 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 9: the vets, Uh Beach and h and Hull. 610 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, Beach is relentless, you know, rightfully. 611 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 9: So you know, these guys have paid their their dues 612 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 9: and been in the game for a while, so they 613 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 9: get to do stuff like that. 614 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 5: All right, So we know the chemistry between you guys. 615 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 5: What about Clayton Adams Chris Cook, the new offensive line coaches, 616 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 5: how would you describe their philosophy so far? 617 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 9: I think they're great coaches, very good personalities. They get 618 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 9: along with those great right off the bat too. It 619 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 9: was something simple that we didn't have to we didn't 620 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 9: have to force. And I think these guys are very smart. 621 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 9: These guys are very talented and you know, picking stuff 622 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 9: up quickly, working with us like they I feel like 623 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 9: they got it all. They're great coaches. They they make 624 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 9: us better every day. And you could tell it too 625 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 9: that they care. You know, it's very something. It's something 626 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 9: that most players can always tell right off the bat 627 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 9: is if the coaches, uh is really into it or 628 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 9: he wants to make you think that he's into it. 629 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 9: And these guys are definitely in one hundred percent. 630 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 5: When you look at the playbook for an offensive linement, 631 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 5: Cole McCoy has talked about just how different this offense is, right, 632 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 5: zach Ertz said, In fact, it couldn't be more different 633 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 5: than what the Cardinals ran last year. How different isn't 634 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 5: for an offensive alignment this scheme? 635 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 9: No, Yeah, they're they're absolutely right. This is a complete 636 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 9: one eighty from what we used to do. And uh, 637 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 9: you know, we're excited as far as an offensive line standpoint, 638 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 9: We're you know, anytime you tell us we're gonna run 639 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 9: the ball a lot more than we're gonna pass or 640 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 9: that we're gonna you know, they're gonna they're gonna rely 641 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 9: on us a lot more than they did last year. 642 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 9: You know that pumps you up. You know, it gives 643 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 9: you something to work more towards. And uh, it gives 644 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 9: you like this ship on your shoulder too. And that's 645 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 9: exactly what we're meant to do. That's exactly what we 646 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 9: want to do. And then at the end of the day, 647 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 9: it's gonna make everybody else job easier if if we 648 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 9: can run that ball like the way we're supposed to do. 649 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 9: And I think everybody's gonna benefit off of that. Guy 650 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 9: who are gonna start catching deeper balls. You know, we're 651 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 9: gonna make more explosive plays. You know, we're gonna set 652 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 9: things up so we're excited as an offensive line, and 653 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 9: then I know all the everything that's going to happen 654 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 9: from that, all the other positions are excited about. 655 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 5: Too safe to say it'll be more of an attacking 656 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 5: style for the offensive line, yeah, going forward. Oh yeah, 657 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 5: Because JG was asked about James Conner my favorite quota 658 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 5: camp so far, and he talked about the strength of 659 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 5: James Connery. He said, I can't wait to see him 660 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 5: behind our offensive line as we cram the ball. 661 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: Vertical. 662 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 5: That was Jonathan Cannon, and I could just imagine every 663 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 5: offensive lineman smiling, because that's exactly what you guys want 664 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 5: to do, right, You want to dictate to the defense, 665 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 5: don't you. 666 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly. It just puts us in better position to 667 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 9: not only help the team out, but really, you know, 668 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 9: play the game the way we want to play it. 669 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 5: You know, when you go about resetting a team and 670 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 5: a roster, it just seems to me and look agree 671 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 5: or disagree, but the teams have been successful and flipping 672 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 5: it quick, like the Giants going from four wins to 673 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 5: a playoff win, Seattle going from last place to the playoffs. 674 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 5: They fixed the offensive line, right. You can have all 675 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 5: the talent, all the skill positions you want, but if 676 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 5: you don't have the offensive line intact and as a 677 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 5: strength of the team, it just seems to me a 678 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 5: lot of those other skill positions nobody could ever get traction. 679 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 5: You can't get it in gear. 680 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I agree, you know, I think there's a 681 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 9: reason why there's five of us out there, and then 682 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 9: at any other position, there's not you know, so that 683 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 9: says a lot. I've always said it's on the offensive 684 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 9: line to not only get us started and side the tone, 685 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 9: but to finish games too and give guys a chance 686 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 9: to be superstars. 687 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 5: By the way, to Jeff Driscoll, get some street cred. 688 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 5: You're a backup quarterback. When he filled in a tight end, 689 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 5: I saw him in a non contact jersey. Yet he's 690 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 5: in a four point stance right in the line of 691 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 5: scrimmage in the trenches. 692 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 9: What an athlete? Right? 693 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: That was good? 694 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 5: What else has stood out to you about this camp? 695 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 5: You know what about this coaching staff? Jonathan Gannon, we 696 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 5: had Josh Woods in here and he likened the culture 697 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 5: reset that's gone on here to what he witnessed in 698 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 5: Detroit with Dan Campbell. What have you seen? 699 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: No? 700 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, all I see is a bunch of guys who 701 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 9: are extremely motivated, but not just motivated, but back up 702 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 9: everything they're saying in those speeches. And you just feel 703 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 9: this ambience of guys that care and actually like want 704 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 9: to go and move forward and get better. And now 705 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 9: we got guys, you know, working together, offensive d line, 706 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 9: offensive line, defensive line, talking after practice, talking throughout plays, 707 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 9: you know, we're actually helping each other get better. It's 708 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 9: not just a class class class all right, we did 709 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 9: our job. Let's go back and like, no, everybody's like 710 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 9: into it, into it, and you know, it's just something 711 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 9: that you just feel by being around these guys every day. 712 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 9: And it's hard to explain, really, but the only way 713 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 9: you can really tell is it is by being around 714 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,239 Speaker 9: all these guys every single day and practicing and then 715 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 9: going back getting better, talking about it and then practicing 716 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 9: and going back and forth. 717 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 5: It seems like everybody has their moment where they've been 718 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 5: held accountabile by either the head coach or the coaching staff. 719 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 5: Saving was the first one to really share his moment, 720 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 5: right speaking a what have you seen out of him 721 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 5: as a pass rusher as an outside edge guy? 722 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 9: No, yeah, I mean we've known he's always been a 723 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 9: very talented player and rusher, and you know, they've been 724 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 9: using him a lot more now this year, and you know, 725 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 9: we get to see him a little more inside, and 726 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 9: you know, we we see firsthand what they're talking about. 727 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 9: You know, he's a great player and we're glad he's 728 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 9: on our team and he helps us get better on 729 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 9: the outside with the tagles and on the inside now 730 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 9: with the guards more than ever, because you know, we're 731 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 9: not going to see very many guys that move like 732 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 9: him and have, you know, strength and power like him. 733 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 9: So it's good work for us and it's definitely going 734 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 9: to make our team better and himself better too. 735 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 5: In your six year what's the best and worst part 736 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 5: of an NFL training camp? Will Hernandez? Is that an 737 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 5: easy answer? What's the best? What's the worst part of 738 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 5: a training camp? 739 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 9: I would say the the best part is, you know, 740 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 9: getting a was it first round draft picked rookie and 741 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 9: getting all the sandwiches cut in your precise way right. 742 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 9: And the worst, you know, just so like always long 743 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 9: days with all that. But it's there's also some some 744 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 9: good in that because you get to hang around these 745 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 9: guys a lot more than you do anybody else, even 746 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 9: even your own family. So you build really cool relationships 747 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 9: and type knit relationships with a lot of these guys 748 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 9: that end up being your friends and your boys and 749 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 9: your brothers for life. And it all really happens here 750 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 9: in training camp. So all right, I. 751 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 5: Said, wrap it up. How curious are you to see 752 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 5: what some of these guys look like in a preseason game. 753 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 5: You're a week away now or so. What are you 754 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 5: thinking as you guys get towards that point. 755 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 9: Oh, it's always a great time, you know, going out 756 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 9: there and competing in and watching these new guys, young 757 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 9: guys go out there and earn their stuff too. It's 758 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 9: fun to watch. So well, we'll be ready and get 759 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 9: them ready. 760 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 5: And we're ready for the run game, no doubt about it. 761 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 5: Hell yeah, absolutely, the play extra pass game. 762 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 9: Well, thank you, thank you guys. 763 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 5: There you go. Will Hernandez our guest on the Big 764 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 5: Red Rage. We continue right after this all presented by 765 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 5: Santan Ford and go. You played for Dan Campbell went 766 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 5: about resetting the culture in Detroit. Do you see any parallels? 767 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 9: Oh? 768 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 10: Absolutely, a lot of parallels that I see is no nonsense, 769 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 10: but not micromanaging, and it teaches you to hold each 770 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 10: other accountable as well as yourself. It's a fun environment. 771 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 10: People want to be here, people want to do things right. 772 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 10: You get rewarded for doing things right. Guys can buy 773 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 10: into that. You know, you're not playing a game smoking mirrors. 774 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 10: You're being very straight up and when you trust the 775 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 10: coach is easy to play form. 776 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 5: So are you of the opinion that a team takes 777 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 5: on the personality of its head coach. Did that happen 778 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 5: with Dan Campbell for example? 779 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, I was buying kneecaps with one bund cheat. 780 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 9: Yeah. 781 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 5: Hey, look where the Lions are now, They're right there 782 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 5: in the showcase Thursday Night game week one of the 783 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 5: regular season at Kansas City Alliance team that won eight 784 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 5: of its final ten games. And there was the Special 785 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 5: Teams captain last year, Josh Woods on the Red Sea 786 00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 5: Report this week. 787 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: Did he say butt cheek? Okay? I just wanted to 788 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 2: make sure that's what he said right there? 789 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 5: Okay, the out Q on the SoundBite quote one butt 790 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 5: cheek heck. 791 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 792 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 5: And that brings us back to the Big Red Rage 793 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 5: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert We are San tan Ford. 794 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: The one thing you know about Dan Campbell, of course, 795 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: and the Detroit Lions, they were looking for specific men. 796 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: They were looking for specific players to play on that team. 797 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: Paulie and I think this is very similar to what 798 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: Jag is doing out here with his coaching staff. 799 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 5: So think about it. They brought in kay Zier White, 800 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 5: they brought in Zach Pascal, they brought in Josh Woods. 801 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 5: Interesting how a number of these players they brought in 802 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 5: do have that mindset you were just talking about. 803 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's interesting you mentioned Zach Pascal. Here's 804 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: a guy who's a wide receiver. Pall, he's a wide receiver. 805 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: He can play wide receiver in the National Football League. 806 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: You can actually throw him the ball in and he'll 807 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: catch the thing. And yet Zach Pascal, this guy is 808 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: physical as a wide receiver. Oh yeah, okay, remember An 809 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: Kwon Bolden. Of course we all remember An Kwon Bolde. 810 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: You could have taken end and Quorn Bolden and lined 811 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: him up as a full back and he would have 812 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: been Okay, he would have been able to hold up 813 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: as a full You could have put him as the 814 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: weak side inside linebacker and he would have been fine 815 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: inside the box holding up against an ISO. You could 816 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: have put him at strong safety and brought him down 817 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: out of the secondary and let he was a physical, 818 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: physical football player. And that's exactly the kind of player 819 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: no matter what position you play. I think that's a 820 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: prerequisite to being on this team. You got to be physical. 821 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 5: Before the wildcat was all the rage, the Cardinals use 822 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 5: An Kwon Bolden, the former college quarterback in the wildcat 823 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 5: one game against the forty nine ers, and then it 824 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 5: was interesting how the next season that became all the rage. 825 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 5: So there's that. Okay, yes, you're looking for that mentality. 826 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 5: There's no question about it. There's no question that the 827 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 5: head coach has been tasked with resetting this culture, restoring 828 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 5: the accountabilding, which was identified in the off season as 829 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 5: being a problem last season. Josh Woods, He's been there 830 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 5: and done that. Is there a bigger culture reset in 831 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 5: recent NFL history than what Dan Campbell is doing with 832 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 5: the Detroit Lions. They just sold out, By the way, 833 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 5: there's season tickets for the first time in ford Field history. 834 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 5: They have just started a waiting list for season tickets 835 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 5: in Detroit. Think about that, Josh Woods. I asked him, 836 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 5: you know, we heard it earlier and then we followed 837 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 5: up just talking about it. Dan Campbell, who is his 838 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 5: own singular unique personality? What is Josh Wood? See just 839 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 5: in the intensity of a Jonathan Gannon. 840 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 10: I haven't really seen it yet, but JG's insane. I 841 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 10: know it. 842 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 2: I know it. 843 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 10: He'll be talking and he'll get riled up, you know, 844 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 10: things that you're passionate about, and he just every like 845 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 10: he's just explaining something to us, and then all of 846 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 10: a sudden, like his face is right of veins are 847 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 10: popping out of his neck, and then he has to 848 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 10: go kind of roossa out of it. I'm like, he's. 849 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 9: Nuts, He's nuts. 850 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 10: And I'm like, and guys see it too, and they're like, 851 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 10: I do not want to get on his bad side. 852 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 5: No, it's in a good way. Well, what did Will 853 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 5: Hernandez say about the two offensive line coaches? That players 854 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 5: can tell when guys are truly vested, when it is 855 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 5: truly meaningful to them, they have a passion for it. 856 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 5: Sure it's just their job and they're clocking in nine 857 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 5: to five. 858 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: Right absolutely, Bally now you can see it. There's no 859 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: doubt about it. And JG is genuine. He's got to 860 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: be genuine always because your culture is genuine. And culture 861 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: is what it's the what you're going to do. Culture 862 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 1: is the how, it's how you're going to do things 863 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: around here, Pali. Culture is the why why we do 864 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: this around here. These are all things that you've got 865 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: to reinforce on the field and off the field, on 866 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: the field and in the tape room. Off the field, 867 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: of course, on the field all of whatever it is 868 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: that you do, Bauli. On a football team, you've got 869 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: to reinforce your culture at all times. And I think 870 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: when you think of the culture of this team, it's physicality, 871 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: it's accountability, and it's disciplined. Those three things in particular. 872 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: In other words, Pauli, if you're not a physical player, 873 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: we're not going. 874 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 2: To bring you in. 875 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: And this is where JG and Mani have got to 876 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: be on the same page. We're not going to bring 877 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: you in if you're not a physical player. If you 878 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,479 Speaker 1: don't think that way, there's no reason to break bring 879 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: you in. Accountable. If you're not accountable by the time 880 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: you get here to the National Football League, you're not 881 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: going to be accountable ever you're not. You just got 882 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: to know that. And those guys sometimes you got to 883 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: get up close to them. Sometimes you get you got 884 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: to see it up close before you cut them and 885 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: send them on their way, because they're not accountable people. Discipline, 886 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: you know what. Discipline and being undisciplined will get you 887 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: beat in a game and a heartbeat. Those those are 888 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: the qualities you've got to look for in a human being. 889 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 1: And that's where Manti Austin for and JG have got 890 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: to be on the same page. We are arguing. 891 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 5: Earlier this week, I contended that Buddha Baker is actually 892 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 5: a better fit under this coaching staff than he was 893 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 5: the previous No doubt that his mentality, that this new 894 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 5: coaching staff is bringing everyone else up to Buddha Baker's mentality. 895 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 5: That's what they're demanding and requiring. And Buddha recently was 896 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 5: just talking about his role and how welcome, how much 897 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 5: he has welcomed this new culture. 898 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 8: I definitely believe that this coaching staff and Manting and 899 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 8: GM are developing a great culture here. And you know, 900 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 8: I'm very excited for you know, the things that they're 901 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 8: doing and the things that you know, they coach and 902 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 8: the things that they preach throughout every single day. You know, 903 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 8: it's definitely a blessing to get that because my job 904 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 8: is continue to be consistent in the way I play, 905 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 8: but also just trying to get that coach right. And 906 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 8: you know, this coaching staff is a great staff, and 907 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 8: I believe we got it. So it's definitely awesome for me. 908 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome. 909 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: And you know what, Buddha Baker is the perfect model 910 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: for the culture you were talking about this, Polly. He's 911 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: the perfect model for the culture they want to instill 912 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: here with the Arizona Cardinals. But it's interesting because we 913 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: were talking about Dan Campbell and he was on hard knocks. 914 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 1: He was standing up almost pleading after the first week 915 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,479 Speaker 1: of two days or the first week of training camp, 916 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: I should say, almost pleading with his guys to understand 917 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: why they're doing it, why they're doing it. See, that's 918 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 1: the reason why you've got to have a general manager 919 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: and a coach beyond the same page. Because the GM 920 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: has got to look for guys who have that physical mindset, 921 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 1: who have that mentality, so that when you bring them 922 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: in and then Jag says, Okay, here we go. We're 923 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: going to knock each other's face off. We're going to 924 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: be really really physical here. Then you don't have to 925 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: have your head coach get up in front of the 926 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: team and implore them to not revolt, implore them as 927 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: to why you're doing what you're doing. You want guys 928 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 1: who understand it from the get go. Now, every guy 929 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: you're going to bring in that door may not understand it, 930 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: But Paully, it's really critical. It's really important that those 931 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: two guys are on the same page. 932 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 5: Week ago, JG was asked how he defines culture and 933 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 5: he just bottom line it. He said, culture is quote 934 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 5: how you behave on a daily basis. 935 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 2: There you go. 936 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 5: So when you hear him say winning behavior, that's what 937 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 5: he's talking about. Is culture going to win you the 938 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 5: game week one against Washington? No, not if you have 939 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 5: inferior talent, but if it's a close game like most 940 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 5: games are in the NFL, Guess what, maybe you're not 941 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 5: going to be the team that's going to lead the 942 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 5: league in pre snap penalties like the Cardinals did a year. 943 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 5: By the way, speaking of intensity about the red and 944 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 5: white practice on Saturday twelve forty five here at State 945 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 5: Farm Stadium, Jonathan Ganna says, quote, it will be full tilt. 946 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 5: Whoa special thanks Jim Momhundro, Code Fincher, Mitch Feraldus, Will 947 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 5: Hernandez our special guest for Ron Wolfley on Paul KELBC. 948 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 5: This has been the Big Red Rage presented by santan 949 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 5: Ford in Gilbert. 950 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 3: Number one, Tyler, you've been listening to the Big Red 951 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 3: Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. 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