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Speaker 1: Welcome and everybody to betting pros. It's time to place

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Speaker 1: this is BP NFL with me as always to break

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Speaker 1: down the Thursday night football games. My boy Scott Bogman,

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Speaker 1: the host of the College Football around these betting pros

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Speaker 1: the league goes thing for notifications, Bogs. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to sharecode this. This game stinks. I am gonna be

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Speaker 1: watching the New York Mets playoff game. That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be doing. I'm gonna be probably watching baseball and

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Speaker 1: following this on the side. But sometimes, as my grandma

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Speaker 1: always says, the watch pot never boils, so we can

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Speaker 1: bet on it still. But it doesn't mean I have

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Speaker 1: to watch it. And you can't make.

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Speaker 2: Me this game. This is pure Thursday night football. So

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Speaker 2: this is this is what it's all about. Bounce out

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Speaker 2: and bow Nicks playing Spencer Rattler. It's about this essential

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Speaker 2: two first year rookie quarterbacks going at it in an

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Speaker 2: old stadium. My favorite part about this this was last

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Speaker 2: Thursday when they were advertising it. It was a picture

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Speaker 2: of Alvin Kamara and then Sean Payton. You know, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: that's how you know your team is good is when

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Speaker 2: they're putting the coach's face on there. I've ever only

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Speaker 2: seen that. I mean, it is a big deal. Champay

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Speaker 2: can go back to New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not like they're doing Belichick and Brady

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Speaker 1: on the Marquee's. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like after Brady left, it was like Bill Belichick

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Speaker 2: on Thursday Night Football. It's like, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: But Drew Brees is going to going into the i

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Speaker 2: think the Saints Ring of Honor at halftime, so that's

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Speaker 2: pretty cool. But yeah, this matchup could not be more

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Speaker 2: lame right now.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see where Drew Brees' hairline is today.

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Speaker 1: That should be an exciting thing to see. Let's get

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Speaker 1: let's break down the game here, Denver at New Orleans SI.

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Speaker 1: All right, So New Orleans is plus three at home

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Speaker 1: minus one eighteen. That's the best number you're gonna find

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Speaker 1: Denver minus two and a half at minus one twelve

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Speaker 1: the over, you're getting thirty six and a half. The

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Speaker 1: under the best number you can find on ESPN bet

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Speaker 1: right now at thirty seven and a half. If you

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Speaker 1: like New Orleans on the money line at home plus

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Speaker 1: one twenty six. Now, look, New Orleans is the home

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Speaker 1: dog here. Denver's defense played relatively well once Sartan came

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Speaker 1: out of the game. Last week, you saw them kind

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Speaker 1: of tumble a bit. So again, I know where my

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Speaker 1: big lean is on this game, and I'm leaning towards

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Speaker 1: the under because because of the quarterbacks that are playing,

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Speaker 1: you have another take, so I want to hear that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think the ender is too low, even

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Speaker 2: for a Thursday night. I came with two rookie quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: so I'm gonna take the over. I'll take Denver and

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Speaker 2: lay the points. But Joe, again, we said this three

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Speaker 2: weeks in a row. Don't bet the game, bet the props.

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Speaker 2: That's what we have.

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Speaker 1: And you crushed the props last week Memory three and.

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Speaker 2: Two and I got my my touchdown call, so but.

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Speaker 1: You got the touchdown call too, so that was that

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Speaker 1: was money.

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Speaker 2: Kittle had two.

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Speaker 1: It was a good touchdown. Kn't had to two, right,

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Speaker 1: So you crushed out and a lot of people I

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Speaker 1: saw the chat. I see in the chat of the

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Speaker 1: YouTube comments were gonna play.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: He played and he scored two touchdowns last time I checked, so.

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Speaker 2: I had him. I also had him as my number

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Speaker 2: one tight end of the week and that workedt.

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Speaker 1: Don't leave receipts out there for me to view, because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna view them. But Bogs, I'm gonna take the

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Speaker 1: other end here, which is two first year quarterbacks, short week,

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Speaker 1: Bo Nicks, you know, having to travel U to defense

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Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be an ugly one. This

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Speaker 2: Stake of two defense. And where was it last week

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Speaker 1: Well, last week it wasn't It wasn't there. But again

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Speaker 1: I guess, No, Nicks, I don't think you need too

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Speaker 1: much here. But they've got some veterans at least, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I think they you know, home dogs, you

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Nobody thought that Derek Carr was gonna play this week.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if he can play next week. We'll find out,

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Speaker 1: but nobody thought he was gonna make this Thursday night game.

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Speaker 1: And I just think, you know what the two rookie quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: this one plays to the under here again sixteen thirteen,

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Speaker 1: sixteen ten. It's a field goal fest, basically, is what

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at. So Bog's and I on opposite ends.

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Speaker 1: I'm staying away from everything else. I'm on the under.

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Speaker 1: He's on the over. What side are you on drop

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Speaker 1: your comments, let us know. Let's talk about the props

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Speaker 1: before we do again. Reminder, use the prop bet cheat sheet.

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Speaker 1: That's where we get a lot of great props from.

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Speaker 1: It combines the best number from any wager house on

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Speaker 1: a prop along with the best over under from a

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Speaker 1: to bet on. And as Bogman said, I think that's

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Speaker 1: the best to pro probably for this game. So Bob,

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Speaker 1: let's start with bow Nix here. I know this number

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this started at one point eighty one this week

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Speaker 2: I just I think that bo Nicks not a great

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Speaker 2: the game probably one hundred to one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: Nicks in the books here. Let's go to the next one,

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Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton. I know we've toyed a little bit sometimes

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Speaker 2: I like the over on this one too. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: I do think Bonnicks takes those shots downfield to open

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Speaker 2: going for one of these on the over, I like

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Speaker 2: the quarterback more right, because the quarterback you have four

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Speaker 2: or five targets to do this for you. If you're

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Speaker 2: taking a position player, you only get one. But twenty

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Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton against a bad secondary. Bonnicks is tied for

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Speaker 2: fifth in completions of ten plus yards is a dot

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Speaker 2: for fourth in PFF's Big Time throws with nine, and

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Speaker 2: the Saints long in each game this season fifty five

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Speaker 2: the Saints give up big plays, and that's why I

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Speaker 2: like the over on bon Nicks and why I like

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Speaker 2: the over on the long for Courtland Sutton. I think

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Speaker 2: he's going to be their deep ball guy here all.

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Speaker 1: Right, next one here on the list for Bogman. Give

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Speaker 1: us what you have next, because you know Courtland Sutton,

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Speaker 1: you know I can understand he's made some moments happen

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Speaker 2: To Bonix, let's look at the slot against New Orleans

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Speaker 2: the last two weeks, it looked like Juju went and

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Speaker 2: got the timestone and reverted back to twenty nineteen and

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Speaker 2: had so many yards. Kelsey had nine catches against the

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Speaker 2: is my man LJ. Humphrey. That's the guy he's been

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Speaker 2: Vailey Devon Vailey, the rookie wide receiver here. So his

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Speaker 2: He is the primary slot guy right now in the

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Speaker 2: slot this season for fifty targets, thirty nine receptions, four

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Speaker 2: the Saints have given up. Like I said, Godwin, the

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Speaker 2: Juju and Kelsey the week before that. They just cannot

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Speaker 1: So Davon Vailey is in there. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: other side here with the New Orleans Saints and Spencer

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Speaker 1: Rattler maybe not looking at his passing total, but maybe

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Speaker 1: his rushing total instead. The numbers twenty one and a half.

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Speaker 1: Where do you want to live with that one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, I didn't get this one last week,

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Speaker 2: So I understand if people want to fade these QB

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Speaker 2: rushing props for me, I completely get it. Gino Smith

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Speaker 2: did not bail out like I thought he would in run.

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Speaker 2: He had plenty of opportunities and he didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm screaming at my television, run, Gino Run, come on,

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Speaker 2: get us those yards. He didn't do it. But Spencer

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Speaker 2: Rattler I said this on ITL when Welsh and I

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