WEBVTT - Tangled Up with Zachary Levi 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:03.320 Hey there, folks. 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:08.159 In this episode of Amy and TJ, Robots just just 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:11.840 leaned over to me before we started and said, we 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.800 have to watch Dangle tonight. And with that, yeah, and 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:18.040 with that, that's how we're going to start this episode now. 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.799 It Tangled is one of Robot's absolute favorite No, it 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:22.360 is your favorite. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:26.360 It's my favorite Disney movie, okay, and my favorite song ever. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.080 Okay, and her favorite song ever is sung by a 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.839 guy who is sitting now ten feet from her in 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.560 studio right now. So it's very exciting for her and 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.560 it's I don't know, is it difficult for me? Because 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:45.560 you are a huge broad You're a Broadway fanatic I am, 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:50.479 and so you get and understand the background and the 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.159 talent of our guest today better than I think most 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.640 because a lot of people got introduced to him on 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.240 Shazam as Shazam in that movie Blockbuster, but before that, 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.120 people got family with him as the lead character on Chuck. 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:07.440 But you uh huh, Chuck, don't give a damn, don't care. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:13.800 Flynn Ryder all there it is. We have excellent thank you, 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.479 and your voice even when you talk, it's so funny 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.760 because I have seen that movie so many times, and 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.240 my daughters and I have listened to I See the 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.959 Light with you and Mandy Moore singing, and I just 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:26.680 I have listened to it at nauseum. When we started 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.520 running together, we switched playlists, and remember I had I 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.920 See the Light on my running playlist because that's how 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:33.720 much I love this song. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.800 When she says ad nauseum, emphasis on the nauseum, because. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:42.120 That's a very interesting run tracks like an upbeat. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.440 I have a Broadway run track, but I also put 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.720 in some Disney movies that you know, are kind of 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.960 Broadway esque, those types of songs, So I like those 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:52.920 kinds of songs when I'm running every now and then, 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:53.800 I like to mix it up. 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:55.240 But should we introduce him? 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:56.440 Yes, we haven't said his name yet. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:56.840 Yeah, we have. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.000 I'm sure people already know yeah at this point. Yeah, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:00.600 I mean, why were they not know that we have 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.000 Zachary Levi here? 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.920 Surprised man? 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.240 It is really good to see you, and it is man. 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.040 When they came to us and said, our producers say, hey, 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:15.840 Zachary Levi, you guys interested? You want to talk to him? 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.160 I said, hell, yes, And one of the first things 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.440 I said to her, I freaking love that guy, because 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.720 we have in the past, we've spent some time with 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.280 you at the Good Morning America studios, and I don't 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.040 know what it was. It seemed like I'm being offensive 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.120 when I say, yeah, I was so pleasantly surprised by you, 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:32.760 Like I expect you to be an idiot or something. No, 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.920 but you would just sometimes you just use find people 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.200 you connect and you just had a great energy and 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.800 you were just I was so impressed by you, and 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.880 I said it to her immediately after spending time with you. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.680 I really appreciate that, and I don't take that in 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.800 any offensive way whatsoever. I understand what you're saying. I mean, listen, 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.200 you know you guys, particularly in your position, you are 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.519 forced to interview a lot of people throughout your career, 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:59.080 and sometimes those interviews are just kind of exactly what 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.079 you think they're gonna be and the more service level 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.160 or whatever that is. And sometimes you might be surprised 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.720 by somebody who's like, oh, he's an actor, but he 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:08.480 has maybe a little bit more to say, or he 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.040 has some more depth about what he's talking about. And 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:14.760 I'd like to think that I think a lot about 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.400 things and I feel very deeply, and I care very deeply, 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:22.040 and so those things combined allow me to hopefully have 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.959 conversations that are a little deeper, a little bit more inspiring. 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:26.480 I don't know. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:28.919 Yeah, and you aren't like the others. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.239 Yeah, all of those guys. The rest of Hollywood? 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.520 Is there a rest of Hollywood? Is there a consensus 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:39.200 in Hollywood? 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:40.720 Is there? I don't know. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.240 We always are told to think that Hollywood is a 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:49.400 uniform is uniform in thought for some reason, what is 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:50.040 your experience? 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.400 Well, listen, that's far from the truth, obviously. I mean, 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.640 as human beings, even people that you agree with on 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.440 ninety nine percent of what you might agree, there's always 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.160 an outlying position, right, So we don't all have uniform thought, 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.840 and God forbid that we ever would. That does not 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.040 make for an interesting or better world. We need to 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:12.240 be able to have different opinions, challenging each other in 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.600 those opinions, refining them, iron, sharpening iron. That is the 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.640 human experience, and it helps us all become better versions 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.160 of ourselves in the process. I think that Hollywood has 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:28.520 definitely held some strong common threads of beliefs, you know, 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.680 and those by and large have leaned perhaps more liberal 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.600 or more left in the political spectrum of things or whatever. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.560 But I don't know even everybody who does fall under 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.520 that category. They all still have their own individual hearts 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.080 and minds. Whether or not they feel like they're able 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.440 to express them is another conversation. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:54.480 Well, that was my follow up question. How receptive are 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.760 a lot of coworkers or folks in that industry two 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.960 differing points of view? You know, it's an interesting concept 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:06.720 because so many of artists are about expressing themselves and 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:11.279 are about telling stories, and yet there seems to be 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.440 a commonality among those people who deliver that art that 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.560 it is more liberal or left leaning. So is their 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:18.880 freedom to speaker truth. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:29.840 It just depends on what you're willing to shoulder, you know. 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.200 I think a lot of people are very scared, understandably 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:39.360 that if they speak to outside of the accepted lane, 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.560 that there will be backlash, and there has been for 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:46.640 some people. You know. I've definitely recently, in the last 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:51.159 election and whatnot, I have had different opinions about a 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.920 lot of what most of my industry was pulling toward. 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.599 And there have been people that have not been happy 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.120 with me because of that. And there's other people that 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.240 I know know my heart, They know me for a 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.880 long time. They know that though we disagree politically or 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.919 philosophically or whatever it is, I'm not trying to do 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.840 anything other than try to unite as many people as 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:17.280 I can in love and understanding that we are going 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.960 to have differences of opinions. May we hash through those, 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.120 May we be passionate and how we hash to through those. 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:24.880 But may we always see each other as a child 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:28.080 of God. May we never abandon this thing of somehow 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.919 saying like, well, you're a monster, you're a monster, and 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:35.160 you're evil because you think X, Y or Z, Like 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:39.080 that's insane. That's never going to bring us together. I 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.000 think one of the biggest problems is that we have 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.720 been conditioned so much on both sides of the aisle. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.920 By the way two, it's not it used to be. Hey, 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.840 how do we bring people together? Don't give up what 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.359 you believe to be true. Let's find the common truth. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.520 There is common truth. We're all dancing around some of 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.880 these things and almost getting it and almost on all 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.760 these from all these trajectories. But let's get there. Let's 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:08.040 actually get there. It's it's become far less about let's 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.680 get there and far more about No, I just want 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.440 to win. I want to win this moment. And that's 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.560 why so much of I've found the legacy media they 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:20.280 you know, with journalism, we're finding out even journalists way 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.680 back in the day, there was still government programs that 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.240 were leaning on our journalists, like even Cronkite, which is 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.000 crazy to think about, but if you go back far enough, 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.400 talk shows, news, they were far more neutral and how 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:37.360 they approached different viewpoints, they allowed the journalistic integrity to 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:41.920 still be holding. I find in legacy media nowadays. You 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:43.880 could be very right in the point that you're making, 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.720 But if you're making it in this kind of sarcastic 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.080 those idiots on the other side, do you think that's 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.360 helping the point. Do you think that's helping get people 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.160 to your side. No, you're just preaching to your choir. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.160 You're just becoming an echo chamber. And that's not good 0:07:58.160 --> 0:07:58.360 for me. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.720 You're preaching to this choir. I mean, we were once 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.840 among the legacy media. I mean we were mainstream media 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.880 network news for almost two decades, and we are laughing 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.000 and looking at each other because we absolutely what you're 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.120 saying resonates with us. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.520 One hundred percent specifically on the condescending tone. You're right 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.960 that we watch every we watch some form of news 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.880 every single day on television, and there's not a moment 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.480 a day that passes that we go look at how 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.520 the tone, like, why are you saying it like that? 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.040 You're so to your point about enemies and the they 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.640 have to be a monster. You have to make the 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.280 other side an enemy. You mentioned two things in your 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.199 answer there. You mentioned what was I wrote it down. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:42.760 You said heart, and you said willing to shoulder a burden. 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.480 You use those two things, and I'm wondering what the 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.280 new movie coming out? You got a movie this weekend, 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.480 Unbreakable Boy, that has heart. I'm saying, as you've become 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.640 more outspoken and more comfortable and talking about who you are, 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:59.160 are you picking and choosing projects that are more reflective 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.040 of you and heart and a position or bringing people together? 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.080 Because there's a lot of stuff in this movie that 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.040 it's very difficult to argue with, but people will find 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.000 a way. But has that in any way changed how 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:14.760 you go about now choosing projects and trying to get 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:16.920 your message out not just through an interview, but maybe 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:17.640 through your work. 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:23.160 I would say that throughout my career, most of these 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.240 roles find me, you know, like I'm finally in a 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:31.320 position post the First Shazam where there's far more I 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:35.480 have far more agency, more offers, meaning I can then 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.800 pick and choose what my destiny is to an extent, 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.400 But even those offers are still coming to me. I 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.720 didn't go out and search them find them. There are 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.040 certain projects that I have found certain ip a book, 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.040 a story, true story that I'm like, oh my god, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.240 I want to go make that story. But most of 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.320 these projects still find me. The Unbreakable Boy essentially found me. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:10:00.320 My criteria for the types of films projects that I 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.920 want to be a part of really comes down to, well, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.280 what is the whole? What is the whole of it? 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.960 What is the entire package of it? What is the 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.520 script and the story? First and foremost, is it something 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.480 that I feel like is done excellently? And then is 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:18.280 the team around it one that's prepared to execute it excellently. 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:23.679 If we make excellence, then you find truth and excellence. 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.640 You don't have to go preach to people what you 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.840 think is the truth. Go tell something just authentically. Go 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.120 tell something authentically and excellently and allow people to find 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.319 the message in that, and I think when you do 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:38.160 on both sides again, like there have been a lot 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.720 of let's say more Christian or faith based films that 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.880 historically in the past have not been very good. They've 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:51.560 not from a from an entertainment aspect. The message is nice, 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.280 but the packaging is garbage. You know. It's like it's 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.439 like it's like wrapping a really tasty chocolate and a 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.200 bunch of donshit. I mean, it's like it's like, what 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.400 are you doing? Why? That doesn't have to be that way. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.200 But unfortunately a lot of the people that were doing 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:09.520 those stories were not high level artists let's say at 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.040 that time or in those but they had really good hearts. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.440 Then on the other side, you've got a lot of 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:18.880 the more let's say mainstream entertainment that is incredible to 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:20.959 look at and it's got it's the fit and finish 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.520 is wonderful, but it's like poison being wrapped in chocolate. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.840 It's like, what are we what are we doing here? 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:28.600 You know, there's got to be a better way you 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.120 can have chocolate wrapping chocolate. It can all be good, 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.480 it can all be a nice little thing. So I 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.400 think that that's you. You have to You can't just 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.720 relax or or rely or rest on the laurels of 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.120 the message that cannot be. You still got to go 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.080 make something that's really good. And you cannot be proselytizing 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.120 on either side. You can't be hitting people over the 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.280 head with religion and you can't be hitting them over 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.760 the head with whatever new religion is. And there's a 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:54.280 lot of that stuff. There's a lot of things that 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.280 people are like, no, you got to bend the knee 0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:00.800 to whatever this new thought process is, this agenda is. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.079 It's like, no, sorry, If you want me to come 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.439 around on what you believe, then you better do it 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.559 better than that instead of just trying to beat people 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.080 in a submission like believe it or you're canceled. It's like, 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.120 what that's not That's not gonna work. 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.280 No, that does not work. And it's cool to hear you. 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.520 I mean, obviously we're huge fans of your work. You've 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.000 been super busy, and it's cool to hear you be 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:37.040 able to speak from the heart you have you lost 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:41.280 out on work, being your authentic self and voicing your 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.640 opinions even when you go over into the political world. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.040 Do you believe you have lost any work because of that? 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:52.240 I honestly have no idea. I genuinely like, are there 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.840 executives or producers or casting directors or people that are 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:01.440 having conversations in rooms somewhere where my name comes up 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.880 and they're like, nah, forget that guy. I don't know. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:05.800 Maybe there are. I'm not in those rooms, so I 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:09.560 have no idea. What I know is that there are 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.400 still lots of wonderful projects that are coming my way, 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.680 and now maybe not ironically, but kind of ironically even 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.280 more in some respect, because there are people, there's a 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:24.720 whole new batch of filmmakers and executives that are fed 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.520 up with the nonsense that don't want to be a 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.080 part and haven't wanted to be a part of the 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.760 Hollywood system and the brokenness out there for a long time. 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:35.320 They've just been waiting for a moment where independent creators 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.280 can go and do that outside of that system, unbeholden 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.440 to that system. And more and more of them pop 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.960 up every single day, people that are that we're in 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.040 that traditional system, that have a lot of weight, but 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.000 they're like, I don't want to go and do this anymore. 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.719 I don't want to do that. So there's going to 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.079 be more of that. There's gonna be other opportunities entirely 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:58.280 things that I'm looking forward to, spreading my wings and 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:02.200 scratching those itches. Things that you know, like even if listen, 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:07.719 when I came out of the proverbial closet, the political clauset, you. 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:08.959 Came out of the political came out. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.880 Yes, But I will say like I put a lot 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:14.719 of thought in prayer into that because I knew that 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.800 there could be like, what's worst case scenario. Worst case 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.680 scenario is Hollywood totally says you're done, We're not going 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.920 to hire you anymore. Whatever. But that was a risk 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.240 I was willing to take because I felt the conviction 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.120 in my heart to do what I felt was right. 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:28.840 And I know that a lot of other people disagreed 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.200 with that, and they felt it was right to go 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.600 and support the other candidate, and God bless them, that 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.000 is their right, that is their autonomy, that is their agency. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.240 And I would never and I never have ever blamed 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.000 anybody for feeling that that compulsion. But I knew what 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.080 I needed to do within my own life, and I 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.600 knew that if I truly believe that God's called me 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.800 to that, then God will be with me and will 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.280 provide however God's going to provide. 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.400 You know, how much of you seem to be totally 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:59.760 chill about it all? And how much or if anything, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.120 does the fact that you got to you got a 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.040 baby on the way, that's a couple of months away, 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:06.560 do date? 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.520 Right? Not even like within two months? First week of April? 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:10.200 First child? 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:11.640 Right? Yeah? Child? Okay? 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.680 How is that played into life decisions you've made about 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:20.080 career or being a public voice on policy in this 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.320 country that people listen to and have become a bit 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.760 of a fire brand to a certain degree. So how 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.240 does you You've about to bring a you're about to 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:28.800 have a child for the first time, how does that plan? 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.480 I waited all that, Yeah, I wait all that. I 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.920 don't want to bring any kind of extra burden on 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.600 my girlfriend, on her family, on my family, on our 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:46.880 family that we're building together, our child obviously, uh. But 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:51.280 also I want to be an example to my children 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:56.400 that you you must fight for what you believe is true. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.680 I think I think that, and also again believing that 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.400 I was gonna be okay, We're gonna be okay. I 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.400 don't I don't know what the future holds, but actually, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.680 right now it feels very groovy, Like I Do'm not 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.960 like I'm really not. I'm not worried about whatever my 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:14.360 I'm worried for this country, our world. I have those 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.560 types of worries. But I know that if I'm ever 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.720 going to affect any kind of positive change in that, 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.600 I've got to be willing to take these types of steps, 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.120 in these types of stands. I think that we as 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.880 a society, and this is a very cyclical thing, right, 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:34.680 like we we have become very soft isn't exactly the 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:41.680 right word, but we've we we we we prioritize this 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:46.080 idea of like self preservation to an extent that I 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.000 think a lot of people are just terrified of, Like, well, 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.600 I don't wanna. I don't want to do anything that 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:54.240 would compromise that. Now, Listen, self preservation is not that's survival, right. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.600 We obviously have to make decisions that are not stupid, 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.320 that are that are wise for us for those around us. 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.160 But we wouldn't be sitting in this studio right now, 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.719 in this incredible city, in this incredible country, were it 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.480 not for a whole bunch of men who were literally 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.280 willing to They took self preservation completely off the table 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.879 and said, I'm willing to die for it. I'm willing 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:21.159 to die to preserve actual liberty, freedom, this dream, this 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:25.840 crazy dream that these crazy people had hundreds of years ago, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.760 at this point, that the beginning of what this country is. 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:32.040 An imperfect journey and an imperfect country, which is all true. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.000 And yet here we sit in this incredible freedom and 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:39.320 in this incredible comfort that we've all now gotten. And 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.600 I'm like, wait a minute. If people are willing to 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:43.560 die for this, how much am I willing to give up? 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.760 If I feel like we're at a very pivotal point 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:50.360 in humanity and in this country. Okay, so I give 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.119 up an acting career that I've been blessed to do 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.439 for twenty five years, and maybe I'll go in podcast, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.199 or maybe I'll go and sing, or maybe I'll go 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.400 and whatever. I don't know, I'll do something. 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.719 I'll do something that's remarkable. You thought you didn't know 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.320 what the backlash could or would be when you made 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.159 this decision, but you knew it could be severe enough 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.760 where you might go down a different career path. Yeah, 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.280 but you felt that strongly about it, and you got 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.760 into it with the I know it's now duped to 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.720 make America healthy again. But with RFK Junior, that was 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.000 what clicked with you. What was it about his messaging 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.639 and him that got you so impassioned and so excited 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.280 that you were potentially willing to say, Hey, I won't 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.960 act anymore to be this voice. 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:37.760 Well, I mean, I genuinely believe that we, all of us, 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:47.400 all Americans, are passion I think that almost every one 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.800 of the major industries in this world and in this 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.960 country has been corrupted, just been corrupted, and our government 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.080 is colluding with them in a lot of deep corruption 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:58.680 because if your regulatory agencies are not doing the job 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:03.040 of actually regulating those industries. And I'm talking about specifically 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:07.240 the pharmaceutical industry, the agricultural industry, the food industry, the energy, 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.600 I mean every industry. When it came to Bobby Kennedy 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:15.560 and Maha, I was like, first of all, I could 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.320 I personally could not think of a better presidential candidate 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.960 for me for my dollars than a Robert F. Kennedy Junior. 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.240 I didn't vote for Trump the first two elections. In fact, 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:30.400 I was down the ticket libertarian like voting my conscience 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.840 on the last you know, three or however many, because 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.760 I was like, I was fed up with this duopoly. 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.280 I was fed up with this red and blue and 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:38.920 everything else. And I think a lot of us are 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.879 and were and whatever, and so all of a sudden 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.119 and all of the candidates that we were being offered, 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.480 I felt like, I don't see the level of humility 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:51.439 and integrity in them that I personally want. And all 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:54.439 of a sudden, here comes Bobby Kennedy. And as with everyone, 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.159 he's not a perfect human being, and he doesn't have 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.040 the perfect past or whatever. You can pick people apart endlessly. 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.880 Who are they right now? Who have they become? Who 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.320 have they become through their darkness, through their trials, through 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.399 their tribulations. Have they decided to be a victim and 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.320 be angry? It's an increase. I mean, I get worked 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.040 up even thinking about it, because it's like, that's an 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:15.760 example of a leader that I wanted to vote for 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.880 for president. So I already saw that in him, as 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.600 in his character. More than that, the fact that he 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.200 had already fought for us in so many ways, litigating 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:28.679 against massive industry, particularly energy companies that were poisoning the 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.280 earth and poisoning us, like he's done it over and 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.080 over and over and over again. So for him to 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:34.479 be like, yeah, you know what we need to do 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:37.199 more than anything, we just need transparency. We need to 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.679 look into all of the documentation and all the data 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.600 and just make sure that what they're telling us is true, 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.760 that all of these things are safe and effective and 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.399 not hurting us and not harming us. And quite frankly, 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.280 I think that what we're about to find out, and 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.760 we're already find out finding out, is that there's a 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.360 lot of corruption in all of that. I mean, look 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:59.520 at here's just one little thing. How's how's your gluten tolerance? 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:02.840