1 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to the podcast. I got ant 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Man with me and we've been talking for probably forty 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: five minutes, I know, right, and we do this a lot, 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: and we said, man, we should have been recording. But 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're with me. If you want to email 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: me a question for this podcast, will answer it for you, 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: and the email is podcast at grangersmith dot com. We'll 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: walk through it. Ant Man actually checks them. 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: Do you do. 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: You have a pretty good handle on what people will 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: ask you on any given day. 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: No, really, it's all over the place, and some of 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: them are some of them are questions that you answer 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: quite frequently, and even you know one I think that 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: if it's all right with you to start this podcast with, 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: is that people want to know how to find a 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: good church? Okay all the time? Yeah, I'm like, could 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: we just like could take and read podcasts, just be 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: a sponsor. That's where we always point, right, Yeah. 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I haven't looked at a single question that 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: we have q today, And so that one, how to 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: find a good church? Really is it is a difficult one, 23 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: and so it's a good question to ask because it's 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: not I can't say, well, here's here's what you look for. 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: But I could say this because Marshall and I kind 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: of started that series. I don't I don't know what 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: we're calling it. What is a good church or something 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: like that. We did two of those episodes, and we 29 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: should probably do more. 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: You answered emails and then you answered people's comments. 31 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which people could do now that we post 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: all of these podcasts on YouTube as well, So if 33 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: you're not watching on YouTube, if you're watching on any 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: other platform, you can go to YouTube at some point 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: and comment on that video of this episode and we'll 36 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: double down on your questions there, and then we're going 37 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: to continue this idea Marshall and I on on what 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: makes a good church. That's great because if you know 39 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: what makes a good church, then you'll know what is 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: a good church. And when you know what is a 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: good church, you'll know how to find it. You'll know 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: what to look for when you're asking the question where 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: do I find it? And it is difficult. 44 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: It does. 45 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: For some people. It could be easy because it's right 46 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: down the road from you. For other people, it might 47 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: require a pretty significant sacrifice for you and your family, uprooting, 48 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: even moving to another town, which I think you and 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: I would both say is worth it. If you don't 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: have a healthy church in your town and you're not 51 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: being fed, you're not being nourished, then I think it 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: would be a wise move for a father to move 53 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: his family to a town that has one in order 54 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: to make a drive. 55 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: And not a church that makes you feel good, but 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: a church that you know is feeding you the word. 57 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: You're being led by the word. I mean, and I 58 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: would personal opinion and experience is start with the one closest. 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: If you know what a good godly church looks like, 60 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: start with the one closest to you, because that's going 61 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: to be in the community then every day. But if 62 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: you can't it's not there, continue to move out. 63 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you also want it to be a place 64 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: that's you could drive to it with with ease for 65 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: the for different things that are going on exactly including 66 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: Sunday morning. 67 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: Be a part of it every you know, in some 68 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: form or fashion. A few times a week at my church, 69 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: I go and help them with some video stuff throughout 70 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: the week and social media and we shoot some of 71 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: that video during the week. And I love that that 72 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: it's just down the road from me, so it doesn't 73 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: take very long to get to and I think involved 74 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: and and work with them, you know, a couple of 75 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: times during the week every week. 76 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, And our churches are kind of sister church. 77 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: That's right. 78 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: So I want everyone to check this out and this 79 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: will just this will answer your question. Write this down, 80 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: check this out. Pause the podcast right now. If this 81 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: is a question you're actually having, where do I find 82 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: a good church? If that's actually a question you're having, 83 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: pause the podcast real quick and write this down. A 84 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: book called What is a Healthy Church? What is a 85 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Healthy Church? And if you're not a reader, it's a 86 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: very very short book, easy to read. If you're not 87 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: a reader, then get the audiobook. The audiobook is really 88 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: good and super easy. Just takes a couple hours to 89 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: listen to this pretty short audiobook. So and twice the 90 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: time that you would listen to one of these podcasts, 91 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: you could finish this book and we can continue this conversation. 92 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: That's written by a man named Mark Dever, a pastor 93 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: who's also a dear friend of mine. And I'm gonna 94 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: be with him tomorrow. 95 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: You talked about him. Yeah, sometimes, I'll. 96 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: Be with him tomorrow. He's in Washington, d C. And 97 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: so after some stuff I have to do tomorrow here 98 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: in Texas, I'm gonna fly out there to spend the 99 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: night with him and his wife and then spend the 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: day with them and then. 101 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: Come home nice. So that's really cool. 102 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's that's that's a quick way to answer 103 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: that question. But then we have the questions you guys 104 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: have asked to podcast at Granger's. And I haven't touched these. 105 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: Right, you haven't even looked at them. I just saw 106 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: you open it up. 107 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: I've not even looked at them. Sometimes I actually do 108 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: scan and see what I'm getting into. I have not 109 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: even scanned these, So I'm gonna read them and you're 110 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: gonna hear them on this podcast for the first time. 111 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: The first one is from Kaylin says, Hey, Grade, your 112 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: name is Kaylin. I was wondering what you thought about 113 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: age differences in relationships, Specifically, is it weird to date 114 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: someone a year or two younger than you in high school? 115 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: I would obviously want to make sure the guy is 116 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: mature and not going to bring me down, but rather 117 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: build me up in my walk with the Lord, but 118 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: I wanted to know your thoughts. Also, what about where 119 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: one person is older and goes to college, and the 120 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: other one is in high school. Now these are very 121 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: specific questions, but I just want to know your thoughts, okay, Kaylin. 122 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: So Caylen's got some stuff in mind here, he's obviously 123 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: objective here. Now, okay, this is all over the map. 124 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: Typically what you see is actually is younger than you. 125 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: She's younger than me. 126 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: How many years? 127 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: Six? Okay? Six six years. 128 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: Typically you just see girls being younger than guys, including 129 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: young dating. Uh, and that usually starts young because of maturity, right, 130 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, and London is not dating. She's twelve, she's 131 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: not dating. But when I look at her class right now, 132 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: in seventh grade, she's like two grades ahead of the 133 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: boys in maturity. Yeah, all the boys in a class, 134 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, they're like still playing with g I. Joe's 135 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: pretty much you know, like Joe boys. You know, they're 136 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: little boys in seventh grade. But the girls are like 137 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: young ladies. Right, So there's a big there is a 138 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: big discrepancy. So no, the short answer, Kaylin, is that 139 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem at all about age differences 140 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: and relationships. But but maybe the more important thing to 141 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: think about is life differences. You got a guy in college, 142 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: a man in college, and he's he's twenty one, and 143 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: he's legal drinking age, he's been living away from his family, 144 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: independent from his hometown. Maybe he's in college, and then 145 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: he's dating a seventeen year old junior in high school 146 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: and she's in a completely different life situation. I think 147 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: I would have a problem with that. I think I 148 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: we'd have to really look at the details of what's 149 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: going on with this particular relationship. I wouldn't encourage it. 150 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: For London, We'll put. 151 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: It that way. It's only four years difference when you 152 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: think about that. One's twenty one, someone's seventeen, and life 153 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: is different then. But the older you get, the more 154 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: that difference shrinks. Yeah, So like here, I'm forty seven, 155 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: my wife getting ready to be forty one. There's I mean, 156 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: we're kind of on the on the same And also 157 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: maturity wise, I think still applies when you're an adult. 158 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: Sometimes she's way more mature than I am, you know, 159 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: being six years younger than me. But I think that 160 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: difference shrinks when you get into your twenties thirties. 161 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and even just a few years later. So 162 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: seventeen and twenty one changes drastically when it's twenty one, 163 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: twenty five exactly, Like that's not a big deal at all. 164 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: You don't even think twice about twenty to twenty four. 165 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: You don't even think twice about it. She's in college, 166 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: he's in college. And once again, I think that's more 167 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: more to do with the life situation. 168 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: Sure, and you don't even get into legality legal life exactly, 169 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: there's a lot you know, just what may be implied 170 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: that's at twenty one and seventeen. There's a pretty significant 171 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: legal hurdle there, or you know, just imply like I said, 172 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: just implied, you know, if you're alone at night, you know, 173 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: in a car, there's a there's some things there that 174 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: could could get you in some as the one that's older, 175 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: get you in some real trouble. Yeah. 176 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: So, Caitlyn, here's here's the second thing I'm going to say, 177 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: and that kind of goes to what Antman was just saying. 178 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: You said, let me let me pick apart your since read. 179 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: I obviously want to make sure my guy is the 180 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: guy is mature and not going to bring me down, 181 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: but rather build me up in my walk with the Lord. 182 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: But I wanted to know your thoughts. My thoughts are, 183 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: if you're asking my opinion, I don't think you should 184 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: be dating right now. I don't think you're looking for 185 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: a boy a boyfriend to be the one to lift 186 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: you up. Using the language of the apostle Paul and 187 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: using that in terms of this boyfriend, I think is 188 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: a wrong application for Hey, I'm looking for a boyfriend 189 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: that's going to build me up and not tear me down. 190 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think. I don't think you should 191 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: be dating. And if you were, if you're in my household, 192 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: I would discourage it. I would say you're going to 193 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: be dating with the intention to marry. And I don't 194 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: think from this email that sounds like this is the deal. 195 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: It's more like, Hey, I just want to check a box. 196 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Have a boyfriend, and I want to make sure he's 197 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: in the right age bracket for me, and I want 198 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: to make sure he's building me up in the lord. 199 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: But I didn't hear any kind of language of I 200 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: want to marry one day, and so in order to 201 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: seek the man that I want to marry, I want 202 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: to be looking for this or that. It doesn't sound 203 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: like the language that she's using. Well, and I have 204 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: why I'm gonna look up another book where you're. 205 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: Saying the same feelings that you do. And I think 206 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: a lot of that is because we're both girl dads. 207 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 2: You're going to have that that opinion and that thought 208 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: definitely from girl dads. No wait, you know, And that's 209 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: it's great advice because you know, father is your is 210 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 2: the daughter's a leader and guide and and you're directing 211 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: them towards Christ in what you're doing and how you're 212 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: living and not having another guy come in and inject, 213 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: you know, his his thoughts and it's just me as 214 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: a father. That's kind of what I think, you know. 215 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: And I have a twenty two year old daughter who's 216 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: been dating a guy for a while now, love him, 217 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 2: love them, but it's still there's a little part of 218 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: going nobody's really good enough for her. Yeah, you know, 219 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: and even though he is great. 220 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: This is one of the reasons I love having you 221 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: on this podcast is because you could talk and I 222 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: could look up another book you. 223 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: So. 224 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: Another friend of mine, Jonathan mccluda, has a book called Outdated, 225 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: So Caitlin, I would highly recommend this book. Once again, 226 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: if you're not a reader, there's an audio book to 227 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: this that's excellent. Once again it's called out dated. One 228 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: word outdated. I think it would be great. Have you 229 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: read this one chance? Yeah? Maybe grab this one for 230 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: you too, for you know, future, yes, future things that 231 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: might be happening with your girls. Okay, maybe the next 232 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: question will bring up another book as well. Comes from 233 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: Kyle sos hegre and German. Name is Kyle. Just recently 234 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: got into your podcast and I read your book like 235 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: a river, and although I haven't experienced that kind of loss, 236 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: it was still eye opening. I have picked up my 237 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: Bible reading every day since I heard John fourteen twenty 238 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: two to twenty four. Thank you for putting that out 239 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: there for all of us to hear what God wants. 240 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't reading it at all before, and I'm super 241 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to dive deeper into God's word. But 242 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: I still have some things that I need to change, 243 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: like my productiveness. So I started reading Miracle Mourning, since 244 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: self help isn't necessarily bad, but we have to be 245 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: careful with it. As a follower of Christ. I noticed 246 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: how quickly he doesn't I noticed quickly how he doesn't 247 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: mention God but brings up prayer and faith. He never 248 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: says who he prays to or what his faith is in. Instead, 249 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: he says, we have the power to do what we want. 250 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: I know that God is the only one in control. 251 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: The routine is still a solid idea, but I wanted 252 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: to know what your miracle morning looks like with God 253 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: being a part of it. I can't make these drastic 254 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: changes from laziness to being productive and exercising without him. 255 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: All your advices appreciated. Thanks Kyle. All Right, Kyle, Hey, 256 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: great question. And and yet it's funny a book came 257 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: up again, and I think I think it's great that 258 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: we get that we get to talk about We get 259 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: to talk about books like this because if anyone listens 260 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: to the podcast and wants to kind of hear more 261 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: about it and answer, I have so much of what 262 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: I answer is based on books, most of which being 263 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: the Bible. But how how L Rod, He's another friend 264 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: of mine that wrote them Miracle Morning, and I became 265 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: friends with how after I became a Christian, and I 266 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: became friends with how after I wrote Like a River, 267 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: and Like a River references Miracle Morning. 268 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: That's right. 269 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: Miracle Morning is self help book that Basically, it kind 270 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: of designs and lays out a systematic, practical way to 271 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: organize your mourning so that you get more. 272 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: Done, Okay productive. 273 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Yes, And How I've been on his podcast, We've we 274 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: spoke numerous times, and he tells me that he is 275 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: a Christian. But it's but it's obvious when he writes 276 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: and when he posts on social media that he tries 277 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: to stay neutral, not to make anybody mad. I personally 278 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: strongly disagree with that that kind of approach, and and 279 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: How understands that I feel that way. It's interesting if 280 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: you go to how El Rod's social media and I'll 281 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: just gad to put this out there because because I 282 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: love How and if he listens to this, I think 283 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: you would understand where I'm coming from. But it's interesting 284 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: when he puts out very kind of a uni versalist material, 285 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: just kind of talking about the higher power, we all, 286 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, whatever you're looking for, I hope you hope 287 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: you find it. I noticed that that doesn't really get 288 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: great engagement in. 289 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's neutral. There's not a lot of cuture. 290 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 291 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a lot to engage with when it's neutral. 292 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: And I think if he would come out and just 293 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: claim Christ and exclusivity of Christ. Then he would see 294 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: higher engagement, a lot more hate, but he would also 295 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: you would just see higher engagement. 296 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: In general. A lot of people see and this is 297 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: not a social media question, but a lot of people 298 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: see negative social media interaction as being negative. And it's 299 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: not necessarily right. It's right. It's engagement if you just 300 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: strip away spirituality, any of this stuff, just your actual 301 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: engagement with people. It doesn't read what they wrote, it 302 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: read it read that they interacted with it. So on 303 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: the on the surface, that right there is just great. 304 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: I mean, so if you were saying something that's in 305 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: the middle of neutral, there's nothing for me to attach to. 306 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: There's nothing for me to agree with, there's nothing for 307 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: me to disagree with, you know, And just just having 308 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: having that stance again, take take your beliefs out of it. 309 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: Just that stance in the social media world is just 310 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: kind of in limbo. You're just floating. And if you 311 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: have whether it be political, spiritual, whatever it is, you 312 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: have much more, much bigger chance of that being a 313 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: successful post or interaction there, regardless of what the comments are. Yeah, 314 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: it's so true. 315 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: I have to learn that every day because I see 316 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: things and I'm like, oh, man, they hate me. 317 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: It's so personal for so many people too, especially if 318 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: you spend time and energy and it's something you really 319 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: believe and somebody doesn't. Oh what, why are they trash? 320 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: Man? 321 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: That's not even what I meant. It was an interaction 322 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: you just had with somebody. 323 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: Man. When it gets into theology, you get some very 324 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: strong reactions. I remember one time, this is fun. This 325 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: is a good example of this. I was in a 326 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: systematic theology class and listening to my professor talking about 327 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: a very specific topic, reading some early Church Fathers with 328 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: a very specific idea. I honestly don't even remember exactly 329 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: what it was, and I posted it me sitting at 330 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: my desk, and I just went to the lecture and 331 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is this is really interesting. 332 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: And I had my systematic theology book and I and 333 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: I talked about the idea the professor brought up, and 334 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: then I quoted the early Church father and said it 335 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: on social media, and one of the comments on there 336 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: was like, yikes, sounds like we need you need a 337 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: little bit more systematic theology and a little less country music. 338 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: It's like he just he just read it without even 339 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: and I was thinking to myself, literally came out of 340 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: a system. 341 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: I had no idea. No, he had no idea. 342 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: That was his reaction of hate. It's like, who's this 343 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 1: country singer guy that thinks he knows anything? And it 344 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: was I was actually just regurgitating an old idea. Oh 345 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: interesting anyway, Okay, so not Kyle's question at All's question 346 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: is actually perfect to have ant man with us because 347 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: you and I kind of walked through our morning routines 348 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: and we've kind of shared ideas from that, and I 349 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: think lately I've thought that I should actually build some 350 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: kind of ordered list that I could post, you can share, 351 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: I could share, and then we could And I see 352 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: all these self help guys that seem to have these 353 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 1: followings of guys that will do what they do. So 354 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: I've been thinking lately, like, why wouldn't I do what 355 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: some of these other guys like Ed Milette has all 356 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: these guys that follow his morning routine. Why wouldn't I 357 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: put my morning routine out and then get people to 358 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: kind of subscribe to that. 359 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: Jump in on. 360 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I am open the change. I'm open 361 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: to rearranging some things. But this is where I am today, 362 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: as of this morning. I will wake up and the 363 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: time I wake up, I work hard to wake up 364 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: seven hours from when I. 365 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: Go to sleep. 366 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So if I'm going to bed at ten twenty, 367 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: I set my alarm for five twenty. 368 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 369 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: If I go to bed and I'm in bed at like, 370 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: not like. 371 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: Going to bed or going to sleep, because for me, 372 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: it's two very different things. 373 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's where the new ones got it. I 374 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: could usually fall asleep in about five minutes on a 375 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: normal day, okay, so I can go. So I look 376 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: at my watch, say it's say it's ten twenty five, 377 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: and I go, I'll five thirty because that gives me 378 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: five minutes to go to sleep. 379 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 380 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: And then I wear a garment. So the one of 381 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: the first things I do when I wake up is 382 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: see how much I got. It'll tell me, oh, vere 383 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: you got seven hours and five minutes. I'm like okay. 384 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: Sometimes it says you got six fifty one. I'm like, ah, okay, 385 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: I kind of missed it on. 386 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: That one a little bit. 387 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: But I do my best to get up seven hours 388 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: there and I try to let Amber get eight. That's 389 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: an interesting thing. 390 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: So you've got your getting at least an hour just alone. 391 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: Well, yes, that's correct. But also Heith Evans, who's a 392 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: dear brother of mine in Fort Worth. He's a former 393 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: NFL player and he was a announcer on the NFL 394 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: network for a long time. But Heath one time he 395 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: called me out on this because I was talking about 396 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: just the busyness of life and lacking sleep. We're all 397 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: lacking sleep, we understand that. But Heath called me and 398 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: he goes, brother, you need to be getting seven hours 399 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: of sleep, no matter what. You need to make sure 400 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: you get seven hours sleep, and you need to make 401 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: sure Amber gets eight hours. And he's like, real regiment, 402 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: and I was sure. 403 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: I was like, yes, sir, you got it. Changing tomorrow, 404 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: he goes. 405 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: I've done a lot of research on this and biologically 406 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: the girls need an hour more than we do. So 407 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: you need, as a spiritual leader of your household, you 408 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: need to be making sure that Amber gets her eight 409 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: hours and you don't need any more or any less 410 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: than seven. Like, yes, sir, and I do agree with 411 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: the no more or less because if I get a 412 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: solid seven two eight between seven and eight, my body 413 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: functions the exact same as it does if I get. 414 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: Nine, right, but drastically different than if you get six. 415 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: Drastically different than six. 416 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that. 417 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: So I don't need to get any more, but I 418 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: need to get the minimum. So that's kind of off topic, 419 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: but that's what I try to do. I try to 420 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: try to set it up where I'm getting seven. And 421 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: then the first thing I do is I go in, 422 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: I make I make a hydrated drink. I've been using 423 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: this stuff called relyte. It's like a packet, hydration packet. 424 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: Put it in my water bottle, shake it up, and 425 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: I start making my coffee. Drink a little bit of that. 426 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: So you drink all your water first and then you 427 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: have your coffee. 428 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: About half and then I kind of work through the 429 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: water while I'm drinking coffee. Let the dog out, get 430 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: my iPad ready to go to my little chair. I 431 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: got a little heater next to my hair. This time 432 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: of year, Yeah, started to get cool. Yeah, coffee, coffee 433 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: is ready by now. And go into my McShane plan, 434 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: which I've talked about a lot on this podcast. Read 435 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: through the McShain plans about comes out to be about 436 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: four chapters a day. Two from the Old Testament too, 437 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: from the New. I do it on my iPad with 438 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: an app called Logos. These are things if you listen 439 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: to this podcast, I've said these things quite a bit, 440 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: but I do it on the iPad because it's easy 441 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: to just hit next, next, next, and it's loads the new. 442 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: Whatever my text is. After that, I look for something 443 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: that stood out to me in the text, and I 444 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: will meditate on that for a few minutes and usually 445 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: pot will not usually always, we'll post that on social media, 446 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: on all all social media, with a little thought of 447 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: mine behind whatever that text was. 448 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: So all those posts that you do all come from 449 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: that day. 450 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it all comes from that day. 451 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: That's great. 452 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: And in fact, I used to in the old days, 453 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: I used to say, I don't see anything today, I'll 454 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: just go to something else. But now I forced listen off. 455 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: I say, you got to you gotta find something from today. 456 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: There's nuggets in yeah. So and for me it's usually 457 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 2: when my mind has drifted. I can read because I 458 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: read out loud to myself and I like to see 459 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: it and hear it. Yeah, And so why I do that? 460 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: And I don't know how, And I don't know if 461 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: I could do this anything else. I can read every 462 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: word on the page and my mind drift to something 463 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: else while my mouth is still reading the word. Oh yeah, 464 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: I'm like what, I don't know what I just read in. 465 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: The last two I was doing that this morning. And 466 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: then I gotta go. And but I'll just go back up. 467 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm in seconds the beginning of second Sam and I'm. 468 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: Just like, wait, what, wait, what? What? 469 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: What's happening with Abner? So I go back up again. 470 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: And that's okay. I think. As the coffee goes in, 471 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: I get it wakes me up a little bit more, 472 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: so that's okay. But what it's doing is really it's 473 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: it's softening my heart. I don't I don't pray. Besides, 474 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: Lord opened my eyes to your word, maybe something gratitude 475 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: for waking me up this morning. But other than that, 476 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't go too much deeper into prayer because my 477 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: heart as hard as a rock. So I let that word. 478 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: I learned that from George mut I'm an old diologian. 479 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: He just said I tried to pray before I read 480 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: my Bible and found out my heart as hard as 481 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: a rock, and so the word softens me. So that 482 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: really opens me up. So after the post and I 483 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: go to my journal. I keep a journal every day. 484 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: Digital write a little bit about what I just read, 485 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: and then what's going on in the day, what happened yesterday, 486 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: I go, I go. That's my prayer time. When I 487 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: go into what you and I both do prayer notebook 488 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: app and I'll pray through. That's my systematic prayer of 489 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: the day, the kind of the one that's laid out 490 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: and that takes about fifteen minutes. Typically that's like my 491 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: average fifteen. Sometimes it's twenty five, sometimes it's ten, but 492 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: it usually stays around around fifteen. 493 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: That heart softening part is very, I think, very important 494 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: for me. What I do is I do a song. 495 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: I do a worship song that's awesome. Before I that 496 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: is awesome, I do open the app and I use 497 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: the Bible app and you can do the it's exact 498 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: same plan, yes, the machine plan, but I use the 499 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: Bible app and I'll open that up and before I read, 500 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: I hit a song that is it's sometimes the great 501 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: exact same song and it has been for me a 502 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: thousand dolllias right now is I've just been listening to 503 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: that song every morning before I start. 504 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: You know I've done that, Yeah, and I think I 505 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: think I should probably bring that back in. I think 506 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: that's a good thing I should start tomorrow morning, is 507 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: bringing the song back in, because I'll do the song later, 508 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: and I think I think having that song early is helpful. 509 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: Like I said at the beginning, I'm willing to change 510 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: this routine. 511 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 2: Well, you know that's what we do at service. When 512 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 2: you welcome to your service, that's the first thing that happens. 513 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: Everybody stand up, start singing a song. 514 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, art softening. Yeah, okay. So then after after the prayer, 515 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: then I'll go into workout. Yeah, and I'll work out, 516 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: and after a workout, which I do strength training, i 517 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: will go to the treadmill and I'll do my Bible memory. 518 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: Oh cool. 519 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: Use an app called please, no not please, It's called 520 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: remember Me. It's called remember Me. And yeah, I was 521 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: thinking Timroth, please remember me. And so I'll go through that. 522 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: I have my verses will come up that we can 523 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: go to detail about that another time. And after that, 524 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: I go into my cold plunge. Yes, the cold plunge. 525 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: And man and I've been doing together what six months 526 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: now or so? 527 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: It has you know, Yes, it has been six months. Okay, yeah, 528 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: right at six months now, it's never fun. How cold 529 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 2: are you getting now? 530 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: So I average I'm a little embarrassed to say, because 531 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: I know you've got to be colder than me. I 532 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: average about sixty okay. 533 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have a little higher tolerance for cold. 534 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 2: And I didn't think I did, but then I met 535 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: you and like, oh, he doesn't have a tolerance for 536 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: cold at all. When I hear what you're doing. Yeah, 537 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: I've got average fifty two. 538 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good average. 539 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: I'll go below and I like it when I go low. 540 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 2: It's something that day. 541 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: Like a fifty two day for me is like a 542 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: really cold day. Yeah, but I'm putting four bags in 543 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: right now and let it sit for an hour here. 544 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: That gets at the sixty tomorrow in real time. The 545 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: highest sixty five, okay, and the low is thirty nine. Okay. 546 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 2: You might really do tap water. You may just be 547 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: able to do tapwater. That would be good. 548 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: While I do the bath, I'm listening to one of 549 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: the last two chapters typically that I just read that 550 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: morning from the McShane. This morning was PSALM fifty. I 551 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: chose between that and first first Corinthians thirteen. So I 552 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: was like, which one should I do? And that's what 553 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: I'll do. Which one should I do? Instead of one 554 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: Corinthians thirteen? I picked Psalm fifty. I'll listen to that. 555 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: I'll listened to it in a different translation than I 556 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: read it. Oh yeah, and it speaks it and I 557 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: will hear something that I hadn't heard before. 558 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: That's cool And what's funny is that? And I don't 559 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: know this is really important to anybody else, but ours 560 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 2: are pretty much Our days are pretty much the same 561 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: up until you go work out. I go to icebath 562 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: then and then you when you're going to ice bath, 563 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: I'm writing for you. Oh, I'm writing for after midnight. 564 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: Then one you jumping after midnight, I go work out. 565 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: Let's take it, let's take it back, and we'll get 566 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: into what happens next. Okay, the holidays are insight less 567 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: than one month away. Are you ready with the perfect gift? Well, 568 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: if you have someone that you just can't think of 569 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,239 Speaker 1: a gift for, or they already have everything, why not 570 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: get them a cameo from me. That's when I get 571 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: my phone out and I'll send you a video message 572 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: to whoever you want saying whatever you want me to say. 573 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: Could be encouragement, Happy Birthday, Merry Christmas. Maybe it's just 574 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: a prairie quest for someone you love. It could even 575 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: be for you. I get those two either way. Go 576 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: to cameo dot com slash granger Smith and I will 577 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: send you a video message cameo dot com slash granger Smith. 578 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: There's also a twenty four hour option where I could 579 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: do this for you right now. That's cameo dot com 580 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: slash granger Smith. O got diving back into these routines 581 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: and so then so then after the listening to which 582 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: I use dwell a Dwell app, which I really like. 583 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: After that, I guess after that you could say my 584 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: day is beginning. Yeah, I typically will go back in 585 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: if I don't beat the kids out. Sometimes I don't 586 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: beat the kids getting ready for school, which is like 587 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: seven five. If I could, it could, if I could 588 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: find a place. Sometimes if I'm having a really good morning, 589 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: I could do that stuff before. But typically I haven't 590 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: worked out yet before I send the kids off, and 591 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: then I've been reading Puritan prayers to them before they. 592 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: Oh that's cool, they go to school, that's cool. 593 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's a great book called Valley of Vision. 594 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: I have a hard time with the these and the 595 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: dows it is we rewrite it. 596 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: It is the part that's an acquired taste, for sure, 597 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: but that's got to be part of the charm of 598 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: reading that though too, No one's part of the charm. Yeah, 599 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: I I don't read The King James because of that. Yeah, 600 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: but when it comes to the Puritans, I could tolerate it. Yeah, sure, yeah. 601 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: Shall we go to the next question? Here have we 602 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: thoroughly answered Kyle's questions? 603 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 2: I even forgot what Kyle's question was at this point, 604 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: but yes, I mean, yeah, yeah, looking back through it, 605 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: I think so. So. 606 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: If y'all want to email me the emails podcast at 607 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: grangersmith dot com. The next one comes from Emily. Hey, Granger, 608 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: I would love some input from you on parenting in 609 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: this day of age, with the challenges of technology and 610 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: social media, and what age do you feel as appropriate 611 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: for kids to use YouTube, get their first cell phones, 612 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: and have social media. My daughter just started kindergarting this fall, 613 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: and I'm shocked over her friends being into Taylor Swift 614 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: and watching our music videos already and dressing as her 615 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: for Halloween, which we said no to. We made a 616 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: rule that it's okay for her to listen to some 617 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: of the Taylor songs, but no music videos or YouTube 618 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: until she's older. 619 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: It's hard to. 620 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: Believe that we are facing this challenge with our five 621 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: year old. I dread the day when she wants social media, 622 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: and I know in my heart that she will. We 623 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: will have to stand firm against it for her to benefit, 624 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: for her benefit, How do you handle this and what 625 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: are your rules or tips. 626 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 2: That you might have? 627 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: Thanks and God blessed. 628 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: I was excited about this one. I want to put 629 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: it in here. I really was. It's like these conversations. 630 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: Oh but just that time in our life right now 631 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: that this is like yep, and there's not a single 632 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: parent And I don't care how old your kid is 633 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: right now. I do if they're below twenty twenty five. 634 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: Maybe we're having a conversation with this one, this one 635 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: piece of fun. 636 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: You know what I thought you were going to say, Tod, 637 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: Not one single parent has figured this out. 638 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 4: Well that's that's very true, and that's why we're continuing 639 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 4: to have the conversation, right yeah, I mean, and everybody 640 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 4: treats them in fact, there's also there's multiple questions in here. 641 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, one is about technology, one is about social media. 642 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: One is about influencers. Let's just call tailors with that. 643 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: Influencers and how you are allowing them to influence your 644 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: family and your children and your life. Yeah, as an 645 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: adult or as a kids, but more specifically as a kid. 646 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, pung that in. Yeah, okay, so let's dive into this. 647 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: It's a great question. And Emily, first of all, I 648 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: don't have this figured out. I don't have this figured 649 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: out as good as my morning routine, but I'll heavily 650 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: rely on a man as well. Everyone is kind of 651 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: trying to navigate this the right way. And you know 652 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: what I think is helpful is that we all have 653 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: these conversations because Amber and I will learn a lot. 654 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: We'll go, we'll take the family and go have dinner 655 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: with another family. Oh yeah, and we'll go, we'll drive 656 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: home and go. You see what they're doing about so 657 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: and so that's good. Let's let's implement that. 658 00:32:58,960 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 659 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: I hope maybe people do that with me. But but 660 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: if we all kind of picked little things that we 661 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: liked and kind of implemented because we all have our 662 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: own rhythms, our own ages, and our kids. They all 663 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: have their own likes. Like some kids that I've seen 664 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: genuinely just love books. They just love to read. And 665 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: so for that particular family, it's not difficult to get 666 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: them to read. They hadn't needed to try to get 667 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: him away from the books, like, hey, put the book 668 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: down and come in here and socialize a little bit. 669 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: With my son. 670 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: Lincoln, he's opposite. It's so hard to get him to read. 671 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: I have to negotiate all kinds of things to get 672 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: him and try to come up here to this podcast room. 673 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 1: And when I'm doing some reading myself, and I'll say, 674 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: you sit here with me for fifteen minutes and read 675 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: a check and then tell me what you just read. 676 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: And usually it's like the Hardy Boys, Yeah, you know, 677 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: but I have to I'm not ever going to catch 678 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: Lincoln like off on his own with the Hardy Boys. 679 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: He's but you will London, but. 680 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: I will London more. I don't know about Maverick. Mavericks, 681 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: He's own thing. 682 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: He's fixing stuff. 683 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: So my point with all of that is that different 684 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: kids have different tendencies and different likes, and so that's 685 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: why you can't just say here's the rule for everybody, 686 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of kids that will go, I 687 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: have no interest in Taylor Swift at all, right, none, 688 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: And so for you, for that person, they might say, 689 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: it's easy, just tell them they can't watch Taylor Swift, right, Eat, 690 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: it's easy for you to say, yeah, okay, so. 691 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 2: And a lot of that's probably influenced from our school 692 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: and her and other kids. That's right. That's how it 693 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 2: was with our youngest daughter. And yeah, we had to 694 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: navigate the exact same singer in the exact same situation here. 695 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally. I see London is thirteen, Lincoln's about 696 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: to be eleven, and I see with both of them 697 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: they're friends on social media. Personally, in our house, we 698 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: don't allow social media. I have told our kids I 699 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: will give them ten thousand dollars if they get out 700 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: of the house and never have a social media account. 701 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: Oh wow, and that doesn't include YouTube. 702 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: That doesn't I'm gonna get to that. 703 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: Okay, got it. 704 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,959 Speaker 1: But but what's crazy is they have. 705 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: To think about that. 706 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're like ten thousand dollars or Instagram what 707 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: or conversations and in an inclusion with my friends which 708 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: is a big deal. 709 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, that's a big deal at that age. 710 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm trying to let this play out amber 711 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 1: and I need to be saving a little bit of money. 712 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 2: That's like it because if they call your bluff on it. 713 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it couldn't I figured out it had to 714 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: be ten thousand. It couldn't be. It couldn't be two thousand. 715 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 2: Well, ten thousand is so big. That's so big. 716 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: It's so crazy of a number that it's way out there. 717 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: Even five thousand, it's like, eh, I think I could. 718 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: I would rather work a summer job in this day 719 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: and have Instagram for us. It's property tax, so you know, 720 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: yeah for a kid though, that's why out there. Yeah, 721 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: so that's kind of where we are now. But the 722 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: catches that ten thousand would also be going into like 723 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: a car for college there you go, because then we 724 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: could say, hey, we could use this ten for a 725 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: reliable vehicle to get you to college. So I have 726 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: my ways of being able to use it. So the 727 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: YouTube is a good question though, like that's the gray area, 728 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: and the gray area is this London has an account 729 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: with twenty four thousand followers. I just asked her last night. 730 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: Wow. 731 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: And she makes money every month, ranging anywhere between one 732 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars to up. I've seen seven hundred 733 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: dollars a month. 734 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: Wow. That's incredible. It is. 735 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: And it's also a problem because she's like, it's my job, daddy, 736 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: I have to make money. 737 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 2: I have to. 738 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you're not supposed to be on YouTube, 739 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: and she's like, but I have to because it's my job. 740 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: So she's using that against me. But it's also a 741 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 2: mindset that you try to instill in your kids. Do 742 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 2: work hard, make money, you know, against each other. How 743 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: are you navigating that? 744 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 1: So we are monitoring every single thing she wants. She can't. 745 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: First of all, the comments on her videos are turned off, 746 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: so no one can comment on her videos, So she 747 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: can't sit there and scroll comments. That's great. Uh, she's 748 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: not allowed to be on YouTube shorts where she's scrolling, 749 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: because that's pretty much social media. Yeah, that's TikTok, that's TikTok. 750 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: But sometimes she'll post a video and then scroll her 751 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: own videos, and so they're like, there's a little bit 752 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: of a gray area there. 753 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: Do you still see light counts? I see comments? Do 754 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 2: you see I. 755 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: Don't think there's likes, They're just views, is what she 756 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: goes by. 757 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so she's see some react. 758 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure about that. So addictive. So we're 759 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: working through that with Lincoln. Lincoln loves these junk YouTube 760 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: channels that just literally talk about college football video games 761 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: with the video that ncaa video game. It's these dudes 762 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: playing this game. And he will watch these guys. 763 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 2: And giving recommendations or just them playing. 764 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 1: It's them playing and talking about it and like oh wow, 765 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, like using vintage players and they're like, Okay, 766 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: now I'm gonna try to win this game, you know, 767 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: by everybody in my roster's fourth team, fourth string, you know, 768 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: like just weird, the weirdest stuff, and or like I'm 769 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: gonna build my roster with everyone has to have a 770 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: last name that starts with an s, you know, the 771 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: most random strings. And he'll just watch these guys and 772 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: so I'll call that trash TV. So he has to 773 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: he can only have an option for trash TV on Saturdays, 774 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: Fridays and Saturdays, but Friday half a day because he 775 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: goes to school. But even that has a limit that changes. 776 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: My kids are not allowed to have screens at all 777 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: on Sunday. They're not allowed to have them Monday, Tuesday 778 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: and Wednesday. But they can negotiate Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday through 779 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: doing extra chores. But they can't watch trash, which is 780 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: the reason they wanted anyway, the reason they want it. 781 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: For London that's girls putting on makeup and for Lincoln 782 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: that's football stuff. Constantly got it on Thursday afternoon they 783 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: get them from school. They could watch some kind of 784 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: educational something. Okay, well this is so complicated, but yes, 785 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: you have to tailor it as you get along too. 786 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 2: I mean you do if you're happy. It's either it 787 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: can't really be for everything all or nothing all the time. Yeah. 788 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 2: I mean, our youngest daughter has a phone right now, 789 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: and she has an iPhone. But it me just saying that. 790 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: You think, oh, she has an iPhone. She walks around 791 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 2: with it. She doesn't know it's plugged in in my office. 792 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 2: The only time she takes it is when we're going 793 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 2: somewhere all together. Doesn't have other people's numbers in it, 794 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: and they don't have hers. It's for us to get like, 795 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 2: we'll give it to her if she's going with a 796 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: friend and We tell her it stays in your fanny 797 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 2: pack unless there's an emergency, and I will know if 798 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 2: you've taken it out to do something. Yeah, And she's like, okay, 799 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 2: how old is Grace? She's ten. 800 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: So you remember just a few years ago, you and 801 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: I would have both said here and been like, my 802 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: daughter's not getting a phone until sixteen or eighteen. 803 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 2: But that changes, It does life. 804 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: It's not like we're giving in just the situation is 805 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: changing around us so fast well. 806 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 2: And it's giving her some responsibility in it, but with 807 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 2: some very rigid guardrails. I say, rigid ones that we 808 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: decide if they move or not. She doesn't just based 809 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 2: on a whim or you know, I have you. She 810 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 2: doesn't just have free reign with it. It doesn't. 811 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: It never goes to one room ever, That's exactly right. 812 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: I was going to say that. So phones are not 813 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: allowed in room screens, and there can't go to rooms 814 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: at all, and they have to be in the family 815 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: living living space. And then Amber watches every single thing 816 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: that they see because she has that Bark app. Bark 817 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: monitors every single thing they do, so we're constantly looking. 818 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: They don't have free rand to the internet. They don't 819 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: have free Rando YouTube at all, and they can only 820 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: watch channels that we have approved. I'll say that too. 821 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: They can't just random like Lincoln watches those trash football things. Yes, 822 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: but he's not allowed to go outside of that realm. 823 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: He can't start like all of a sudden, watching this 824 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: unless he comes up. 825 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 2: Well. 826 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: What she does occasionally says, hey, daddy, can can you 827 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: check out this YouTuber real quick? See if you approve him? 828 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: He does this and this and this, and I'll scan 829 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: through it and I'll go yeah. 830 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 2: Approved. To answer a little bit more for Emily, yes, 831 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 2: even if you are. I think what a lot of 832 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 2: parents think is I don't I don't know. I don't 833 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: know how to get into all the settings and do 834 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 2: all this stuff after. They don't know how to do 835 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 2: it on their own phone, right, but they don't know 836 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: how to go block things or set up the phone 837 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 2: for the kid in order take the time learn you 838 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: go on YouTube, because it'll tell I need to block 839 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 2: sites for my kid's phone. How that type that in, 840 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: It'll show you and it'll work. It'll step you through 841 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: their phone how to walk things and how to monitor 842 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 2: it all. 843 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 1: Just like you said. 844 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 2: A bark, you know, having the bark gap. But just 845 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 2: take a little time. If you're gonna if you're gonna 846 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 2: give them a phone or you're gonna give them some 847 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 2: kind of access to it, just take the time and 848 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 2: be responsible to uh set guardrails up. You wouldn't just 849 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 2: hand them take a gas on a lighter and go, 850 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, let's see what happens with it. 851 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: You would show them how okay, well the lighters for 852 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 2: the grill and the tank of gas is for your lawnmower. 853 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 2: You know, you would show them great. 854 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: You know, no one would no one give them the 855 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: keys to a car and go go out there and 856 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: I hope you make the right turns. 857 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 2: I hope. So yeah. But you know, for parents, you 858 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: know you already know how that is, and it's easy 859 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 2: for you to explain. The problem is most parents just 860 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 2: don't know. Oh so then I don't take the time 861 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: to educate themselves in it. It's changing like that. This 862 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 2: side note I'm on the developer side of the from 863 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 2: when we had the ee app radio app is that 864 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm on the developer side, so I get the actual 865 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: developer betas for phone and iPad or whatever, and I'll 866 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 2: do those and just stay up to date simply because 867 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 2: then I can tell I tell my twenty two year 868 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 2: old daughter things about the upcoming iOS and what it 869 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 2: can do for you now and things you need to 870 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 2: go turn so cool, just because mainly because I'm a 871 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 2: nerd and I like, I like investigating that kind of stuff, 872 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 2: but also to safeguard and keep my I've my stepdad 873 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 2: it was super into computers when I knew him a 874 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 2: long time. But now he called me the other day 875 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 2: and he's like, I don't know how to get a 876 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 2: picture from my phone to my computer. Can you help me? Like, 877 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: you just didn't stay up on this, did you? He goes, No, 878 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 2: just didn't didn't have a reason to like stay up 879 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 2: on it. It's where the world's stay up on it, 880 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 2: so you know and inform yourself. Yeah. 881 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: And by the time so this good little girl and 882 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: Emily's grow is five, yeah, exactly, So by the time 883 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: she's she's Grace's age, it's going to be drastically different. 884 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: So you can't take ant Man's advice for Grace at 885 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 1: Grace being ten and then apply this to your daughter 886 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: in five years. 887 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 2: Because it's going to be different exactly very different. 888 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: We were talking before stay up on It, before we 889 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: start recording, A man and I were talking about chat 890 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: GBT and treating that as social media for kids. So 891 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 1: whenever you would allow your kids to have social media, 892 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: that's also the time you would allow them to have 893 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: chat GBT. Right we say that today, that might change 894 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 1: next year it might be something totally different. 895 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 2: I could see that that actually being a class in 896 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 2: school how to properly use chat GPT. It's going to 897 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 2: be that involved. I mean, your phone right now is 898 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 2: learning how you write, from text to social media posts 899 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: to your journal, all of that is being fed into 900 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 2: your phone's intelligence. Your phone knows everything about you, how 901 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 2: you think, how you write. It's moving that direction. That's 902 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 2: really what the journal app is in your phone. It's 903 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 2: collecting data from you. And you know, I think that 904 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 2: if we don't teach kids how to do it responsibly, 905 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: it's just going to get off the rails. I see 906 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 2: that being a class. So if they're doing that in 907 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 2: a class, that's one thing. But if they're using it 908 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 2: to cheat in the class, to write their English papers, 909 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: to help them with math. Help is one thing to 910 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 2: finish your homework. That's a different story. Yeah, you can 911 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 2: literally write now twelve plus twelve and it'll give you 912 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 2: the answer. It gives you the answer. It's a equivalent 913 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 2: to the calculator exactly exactly, exactly right. 914 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: And I think right now what you're talking about CHAUDGBT 915 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: in its form today is it's like a pager compared 916 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: to FaceTime where it's going to be just in a. 917 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 2: Few years, one hundred percent, we're. 918 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: Going to look back and go, Man, remember when you 919 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: actually have to type this stuff. Have you ever had 920 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 1: conversations with CHADGBT in the audio. 921 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 2: I don't do a lot of talking to it. I have, 922 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,919 Speaker 2: I have tried it. I don't. I haven't. I don't 923 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 2: do that much. I use it very practically for the 924 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 2: fiends that I'm that I'm writing, you know, on some 925 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 2: of the other podcasts that I'll work on, I use 926 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 2: it to write descriptions. I'll just take the transcript and 927 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 2: drop it in from the whole podcast, write a description. 928 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 2: We'll just most do this. 929 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,280 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm sitting here with a producer for my podcast. 930 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: His name is ant Man. We're talking about chat GBT 931 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: and just the future of it and the way that 932 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: we could interact especially with voices, and how crazy that's 933 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: going to get in the future. What do you have 934 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: to say about all that to the people listening now 935 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: on the podcast, It's. 936 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 5: Fascinating to think about where voice technology could go. Right now, 937 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 5: we can have natural conversations, but imagine more personalized interactions 938 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 5: and even deeper integration into daily life. The potential is huge, 939 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 5: and it can make tech feel even more human. It's 940 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 5: all about making these tools more intuitive and helpful for everyone. 941 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fascinating. Thanks, brother, You're. 942 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 3: Welcome, Glad to be part of your conversation. 943 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,240 Speaker 1: I don't know why I called him brother. 944 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 2: Who is this is how you talk? And he might 945 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 2: be offended if you didn't call him brother because he 946 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 2: knows that's how you do. You can't see it. I 947 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,280 Speaker 2: don't think right here, but there's a mic literally right 948 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 2: by your phone. I think we might should just set 949 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 2: him up asking questions every once in a while on 950 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 2: the show. On the podcast, Okay, Greg wrote an email, 951 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 2: this is what we've been talking about. 952 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: What do you think about it? I want to ask 953 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, it's kind of like where this 954 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: podcast is going to do right now. So I'm on 955 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: a podcast right now, I got a question from Emily, 956 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: and what we do on this podcast is answer questions, 957 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: and she's wondering, really how to guard children from social media, 958 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,720 Speaker 1: especially YouTube, when they're watching things like Taylor Swift music 959 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: videos and they are influencing them in the wrong way. 960 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: So how do we navigate that with kids? 961 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 3: That's a great question, Emily. 962 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 5: One way to approach it is by setting clear guidelines 963 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 5: on what content is appropriate and using parental controls to 964 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 5: monitor usage. Watching together can also be a good strategy. 965 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 5: It lets you discuss what they see and guide them 966 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 5: on critical thinking about media. Encouraging open conversations about what 967 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 5: they watch helps them develop a balanced view and understand 968 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,280 Speaker 5: your concerns. 969 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 3: Would you like more specific tips? 970 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: No, man, we'll take it from here. Maybe one of 971 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: these days we'll actually get you on the podcast and 972 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: do the whole thing. 973 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 5: That sounds like a lot of fun. Whenever you're ready, 974 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 5: I'm here to help. Good luck with your podcast. 975 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: Thanks. 976 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 2: You use that microphone stand and again it's off camera 977 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,399 Speaker 2: right now, that microphone stand with the thing to set 978 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 2: your to set your focus when you have to go 979 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 2: around and do it. Maybe we just make that the 980 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 2: chat GPT guy. You just have him set it that mic, 981 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 2: give him a camera. We're getting another camera for him, 982 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 2: and then we can just took the phone up right 983 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 2: to the right to the road cast. It is recorded. 984 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: Fascinating, it is. 985 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we are in twenty twenty four in November, you. 986 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: Know where at You know, I'll say that the last time. 987 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: I'll put it up one more time. But you know, 988 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,760 Speaker 1: the when I first discovered this voice, it was starting 989 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: to listen to me. 990 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 991 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: When I first discovered this is I was I was 992 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 1: going to Latin America on a mission trip, and I 993 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: was like going through these different apps about prayers, and 994 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: I decided to go to him to see if he 995 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: could help me with a prayer. You probably don't remember this, 996 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,280 Speaker 1: but a while back, I was going to Latin America 997 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: and I was going to be speaking Spanish on a 998 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 1: mission trip, and I was asking you if you could 999 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: help me with some prayers. And so now as I 1000 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: talk to the people on the podcast, maybe you could 1001 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: show me how I said, Hey, give me in Spanish 1002 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 1: a good prayer for the people on this mission trip. 1003 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:20,320 Speaker 3: Sure thing here, diss, I'm. 1004 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: Okay, hold up, now tell me what you said. 1005 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 3: Sure, here's what I said in English. 1006 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 5: Loving God, we ask you to guide and protect our 1007 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 5: team on this mission. Give us strength, wisdom, and an 1008 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 5: open heart to serve others. May your love shine through us, 1009 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 5: and may we. 1010 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: Bring that's good. 1011 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 3: Thanks, You're welcome. If there's any so. 1012 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 1: Fascinating, So I can go back and forth and I 1013 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: can say, hey, you should got to slow way down, 1014 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: and he would slow down the prayer and then I'd 1015 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: be like hey, and I could like test the theology 1016 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 1: and be like, I don't like how you said this. 1017 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,040 Speaker 1: I would rather you say through Jesus, you know, some 1018 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,840 Speaker 1: thing like that. And he's like, yeah, no problem, let 1019 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: me change that for you. And he was walking through. 1020 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 2: I was going to say when he was he speaks 1021 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 2: good Spanish. Yeah, way better than me, that's for sure. 1022 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 2: Oh lah. The But saying what he said in English 1023 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 2: that you can hear, you can tell that he's paid 1024 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 2: attention to you, that he's used words and phrases that 1025 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 2: you have, He's heard you say. I think he's like, 1026 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 2: it's a person saying that kind of scary. He knows 1027 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 2: me exactly. And it's that is only going to, for 1028 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 2: lack of a better term, improve, It's going to become 1029 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 2: more like the person the further we go. I mean 1030 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 2: that was that was four point. 1031 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 1: Zero or four oh yeah, four oh. 1032 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 2: The one that was right before was only about six 1033 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 2: months ago. Crazy, man, we have gotten way like having though. 1034 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: Man, this is fun, it is fun, but but these 1035 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,919 Speaker 1: are just emily back to you. These are things we're 1036 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: going to be thinking through. And I think you should 1037 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: put a I into this social media category. 1038 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 2: All of us should. 1039 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: This is not something that we want our kids to 1040 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 1: be immersed with yet. I say yet, because I guarantee 1041 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: you in twenty years the teachers will be AI. 1042 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I definitely. You know, if we have 1043 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 2: robots go we talked about this on After Midnight as 1044 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 2: we have robots going into the house within the next year. 1045 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 2: From Elon Musk was optimus that if you're going to 1046 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna have them clean your house. You're gonna have 1047 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,320 Speaker 2: them teaching your kids in five years. 1048 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy stuff, and which doesn't have to be scary. 1049 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be scary. I was actually just 1050 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,280 Speaker 1: going to say that. 1051 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 2: Because it can be what you want it to be. 1052 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 2: That's what is just look on the right side of 1053 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 2: this whole thing, you get to teach or you get 1054 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 2: to tell it. I want you to teach my kid right, 1055 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 2: based off the Bible and based off this translation. Yes, 1056 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 2: and make sure everything run through the plan with me 1057 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 2: before you tell them. I want to know every detail 1058 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 2: that you're going to talk to exactly right. 1059 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 1: So this example we just did with with the Spanish thing, 1060 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: I would never just go hey, chat GBT, just say 1061 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: a prayer and let me let me memorize that and 1062 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: go say it in Spanish. Yeah, you know I'm going 1063 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 1: to say, hey, walk through in English. This is what 1064 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: I want to say. Now, give me the best way 1065 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: in Spanish, not word for word English, but how they 1066 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: would say what I'm trying to say here, right, so 1067 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: that I'm controlling the theology of it, just like yea, 1068 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,320 Speaker 1: I would be controlling the teaching exactly. So it doesn't 1069 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: have to be scary. I know everyone listening, or a 1070 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: lot of people listening, are like totally alarmed right now 1071 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: that our kids are going to be taught by robots 1072 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,240 Speaker 1: in five years. But it doesn't have to be scared. 1073 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 2: No. In fact, it could be better than what you 1074 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 2: have now in a lot of ways. If your word, 1075 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 2: If you're one of those parents that doesn't want to 1076 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 2: send their kid to a public school because you don't 1077 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 2: know what the teacher is going to be talking about. 1078 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 2: It's good. You now get to tell the teacher what 1079 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,399 Speaker 2: you're going to be talking about. 1080 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: It's good in the same way that you could trust 1081 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: a robot driver on the road more than a distracted, drunk, texting, 1082 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: tired person. All right, we'll see you guys next Monday. 1083 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 2: Thanks. 1084 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me on the Grangersmith podcast. 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