WEBVTT - Who are the Amish? 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.040 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:07.480 It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:16.279 from House Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.040 the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always is 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:24.880 Charles Chuck Bryant. Yes right, yes, yeah, Hey Chuck. How's 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:30.000 it going? Man? Oh? Great? Yeah, things are great. You know, 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:34.159 I love podcasting on Monday mornings or afternoon's afternoon? What 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:36.440 time is It's one? It seems like I just got 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.600 here though. Yeah. I've been getting here late lately, and 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.400 I gotta tell you that extra half hour it feels 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.599 like it eats up four hours of productivities. We are 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:48.920 you driving a buggy to work? I am I, Chuck. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:53.760 I We should say I and nay throughout this, Okay, yeah, 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.800 nay on the I nay um Chuck, Josh. Let me 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.960 take you back in time a little bit, say seventeen seven. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.840 It's a long time. Imagine Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. Okay. All 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.000 of a sudden, a new group of people show up 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.200 and they seem nice enough, you know, they seem hard 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.040 working or they like to, you know, use their draft 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:19.080 horses for locomotion. And and all sorts of normal eighteenth 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:24.040 century early eighteenth century stuff. But in very short order, 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:29.240 the welcome to the New world colonizing neighbor pies start 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.480 drying up as the surrounding people who will heretofore be 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.039 referred to as the English, realized that this new group 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.360 of people who are showing up don't really care to 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.520 socialize with them, or anyone else in the outside world 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:46.480 for that matter. Yeah, that that's the way they like it. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.920 It is. Well, we're talking about Chuck. In case you 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.960 haven't guessed, is the Amish. I knew this because you 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:56.640 read the article. Yeah, good thing. These people are incredibly 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.160 interesting to me. Yeah. Me. To remember, we said on 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.360 some podcast ways back that, uh, the Amish will never 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.960 hear it. We can say whatever we want, and all 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.919 these people wrote in like jerks, what about rum spring 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.000 up yea, which we'll get to in a minute. But 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.280 they're absolutely correct. It's entirely possible there's an Amish kid 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.600 running around, although it should be noted that we did 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:20.239 not hear from any Amish kid on rum Springer, so 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.200 take that. They may have heard it, though they may 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:27.160 just not be real comfy with the typing comfortable with. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:31.200 Maybe there's letters on crystal meth rum springing. Yeah, we'll 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.079 get to that in a minute. Okay, all right, So 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.760 again we're talking about the Amish who did first arrive 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.919 in the United States and seventy seven and actually when 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.440 they did get to Pennsylvania and at that time they 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:47.200 were still a fairly young Christian sect, right, yeah, sixte 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.799 is when they were actually formed because a Swiss Mennonite 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:56.080 named Jacob I'm on basically didn't like three things. I know. 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.960 The three things are so true. I want to split 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:03.520 off because I'm not. I want to keep watching people's feet, 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.840 which I can understand. It's pretty cool because if you 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.120 ever washed someone's feet, you grew up a Christian, right, 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.919 did you ever do that? Now? I did once I 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.880 was even Catholic. Wow, it's weird. Yeah, and it is humbling, 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.080 especially if you're like twelve. You did that as a 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.079 part of church. Wow, I've never heard of that. Yeah, 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:23.480 I mean, and you know, modern like modern churches, I guess, right, 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.359 But the point is it's it's meant to be a 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.880 humbling experience. You're washing the feet of another human being, 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.560 feet and dirty, and you know it's let me tell you, buddy, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.200 you've had to wash your feet, it would be it 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.560 would be humbling. Humbling is when one word that comes 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:38.000 to mind. Yeah, you'd see new shades of greens. What else? 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.040 Did he not want to celebrate Josh Communion twice a year? 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.320 He wanted to celebrate it twice a year. Once said 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.600 once a year. So he said, screw that and the 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:53.000 foot washing and then um, the Mennonites basically wanted to 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.480 mingle with the English or I guess they weren't the 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.640 English at the time, but mingle with society. And he said, 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.520 I'm not down with that. So and that's going to 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.440 create a new deal called the Amish, right, and it did, um, 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.920 and it took off like a rocket. But I mean 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:10.840 that last one is probably the most definitive characteristic of 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.880 the Amish. You know that they didn't and still don't 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.559 socialize with outsiders as much as possible. Right, Yep, that'll 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.720 keep popping up throughout this podcast, I predict watch for it. 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.719 And they're still in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, as well as uh 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:28.880 Ohio and Indiana and Utah and Canada. Canada. Utah is 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.000 the newest place they're having to go further and further west. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.320 For some reason, Utah makes sense. No, Mormonism has nothing 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:37.680 to do with it, but it just makes sense. It 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.160 definitely does, more so than like if they rooted down 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:44.360 in Vegas or something, which they never ever would. They 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.720 shy away from electricity, which is one reason they'd stay 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.839 away from Vegas, which probably would just scared the hell 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:56.160 out of the Amish going down the strip in Vegas. Um, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.840 so let's talk about why they do this stuff. They 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.560 dressed plainly, right, yeah, very much. They wear The men 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.680 wear dark suits, usually a blue shirt with some suspenders, 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.040 a black brimmed hat, which is the shape of the 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.960 hat apparently tells you a lot about the man, like 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.920 if you're more old school, it'll have a different crown 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.720 and brim with which I don't understand how that fully works. 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:25.680 But the hat makes the man, Yeah, but not the clothes. Well, well, 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:27.479 the clothes obviously, but the clothes are all the same. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.840 The hat is where you can vary it to say 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.240 something about yourself. I got to I did not know that. 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.960 So those are the dudes, and they and the ladies 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:40.360 they wear frock dresses, black capes, which I find kind 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.880 of dashing. Sure, um. And if they're baptized, they cover 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.400 their hair yea all the time and they don't cut 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.719 their hair the women, no, but men do wear their 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:53.799 short their hair short, cropped beards if they are married. Correct, 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:58.240 But no mustache. Why I thought I added something to 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:02.960 do with biker or something. Tom Selle, who just celebrated 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:07.680 his birthday by the way, let me know. So. Uh, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.599 it's because they and this was a brand new factor 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:14.560 me because mustaches are associated with the military, at least 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.400 to the Amish, and they're not downe with the military now, 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.960 not at all. As a matter of fact. They they 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:26.480 reject any um combat uh what's it called, chuck. They 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:30.200 reject violence against another human and even in self defense, 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.280 which means you can't go to war because you're going 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.440 to be put in a situation like that. Um. They 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:40.320 they have been in the past conscripted, That's what I 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:44.800 was thinking of. They have been conscripted to um serving 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.680 non combat roles during the draft. Yeah. And I think 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.719 during World War Two there was a couple of Amish 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.840 guys who were conscientious objectors who were basically put in hell, 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.320 which was the statemental hospitals, and I believe New York 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:04.040 or New Jersey. Um, and they actually lead the charge 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:08.640 in exposing the horrible qualities of life at these places 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:14.000 and some real reform in statemental institution. Do we really 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.400 need Amish in the army though, I mean even during 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.600 the draft? No, But would you want an Amish guy 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.760 in the trenches next to you? Well, you'd never see 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.880 one there. Well yeah, exactly, you know, I imagine they 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.280 go to prisoner or whatever. But there, that does bring 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.480 up a point that kind of arose in my head 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:31.760 while I was reading this article, Chuck, and that is that, Um, 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.880 they live in the United States. So even though they 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:40.760 are this very peaceful, tranquil um, non violent society, they 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.720 still live in the United States. So yeah, I think 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:45.760 if there is a draft, this is that's a that's 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.560 a really important moment in history. So yeah, they gotta 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.200 gotta do something. Everybody's pitching in you. You can't live 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.120 entirely separately in my opinion. You know how I feel 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.240 about Buddhist monks who go up in the mountains for 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.920 their their whole lives. Draft them. I think the exact 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:04.640 get him in the trenches. So Chuck, Yes, Josh, like 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:08.480 we said, Um, the Amish women wear bonnets on their 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:15.320 hair after they're baptized. The Amish, being Anabaptists, don't believe 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:20.000 in infant baptism. Neither did I as just a regular 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.800 Baptist Southern Baptist. It makes sense like we don't baptized, 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.120 we don't at birth or anything like that. You have 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.640 to be old enough to make your own decision. Yeah, 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.600 which makes a lot of sense to me. I was 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:32.880 baptized as a baby and I have no recollection of 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.120 it whatsoever, And aside from the Catholic Gill has been 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:40.640 virtually meaningless to me. I was baptized at sixteen and 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.800 was led to the Lord with air quotes under my 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:48.160 gay youth director. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he really is gay. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.440 He he later on, I didn't think you would call 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.080 him gay. A few wives and we all know you 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.080 love you chuck. He later on came out and the 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.120 church said, I don't think I want you to be 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:02.000 director anymore. Does that no fire your baptism. I'm looking 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.720 and I'm looking into that. So were you baptized in 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.080 the river? No? No, no, just in the pool behind 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.240 the in the church. You know, modern Baptism not a 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.200 brother world though. Um, I I have to say, I 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:18.360 find that, um, just a really good idea that you 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.559 can't get baptized until you're fully aware of what you're doing. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.000 And my hat, my my wide brim hat is off 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:30.160 to the Amish and to your sect for pursuing that. Yeah, 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:34.760 Stone Mountain First Baptist Church exactly that that sect. So, um, 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.680 you enter the church when you're sixteen. If you want 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:41.120 to write, yeah, you make the choice to what is. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.040 But here we reach rum Springer, right, that is when 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.280 you are allowed to live among the English and do 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.839 crystal math and sell it to I understand there's a 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.679 pretty big druggring um of Amish kids that were selling drugs. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.240 You can dance and play guitar and watch TV and 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:02.439 waste electricity, use electricity, yeah, and wasted. Yeah. Oh I 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.480 imagine if you're just coming into electricity at age sixteen, 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.800 you wasted like it's nobody's business. Yeah. But yeah, so 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.280 you you are allowed to go off for a period 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:16.360 of time. Uh, and you are in rum spring which 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.720 means run around. Yeah. Germans German, like all Amish stuff 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.600 is German, right, they speak a low German amongst themselves, 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.480 high German for mass. But they all know how to 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.360 speak English. So when they actually do have to associate 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.840 with outsiders, they do. But on rum Spring, you imagine 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:36.600 they're running around speaking English, probably doing drugs, and then 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.160 some of them. We're not saying they all do that, 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.440 of course no, but they can. They can and they do. 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.320 Because that documentary The Double's Playground I saw that recently, 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.760 isn't any good? Well, yeah, and that's where the crystal 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:47.800 mething came from. Those a kid who got mixed up 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:52.160 in dealing it and um basically had to move, you know, 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.080 because some guy was trying to kill him, some rival 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.560 drug dealer was trying to kill him. Wow, so he 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.880 really experienced the English life. He is like, object to 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.200 this conscientiously coming for you. It's weird though, man, because 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.520 it'll show parties and a lot of them. Like this 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.400 kid was a boy and he, you know, dressed normally, 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.440 like what if you call a sixteen year old attire 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.959 these days normal? But the girls were still wearing their thing. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.280 So they were at this party listening to the jay 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:22.400 Z with their frock and her bonnet han drinking a beer. Wow. Yeah, 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.600 I gotta check that movie. It's really good, awesome, it's 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:30.920 really it's very insightful. Okay, So I had a pretty dark, 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:36.080 shady past when I had my own little rum springer. Sure, no, 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.920 I'm not. As a matter of fact, I have ended mine. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.320 I ended it a while back, but I fully ended it. 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:45.800 Yet it's nice. I'm growing up now, chuck. Um, what's 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.200 for me? Though? There was nothing that I was going 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:53.440 to test out. It was all all testing, right, but 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.720 there wasn't like I wasn't going to examine, like did 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:58.720 I do? I want to make a choice between good 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.120 and evil? Although old amately that's what it panned out 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:05.200 to be, right, which did you choose? Um? Can you 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.840 see the smile? I'm so bright and sunny today. Yeah? Um. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.520 With these kids, once they reach a certain point, and 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.439 I didn't get in the article how long run spring? 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.160 At lasts? Maybe a year? I'm not positive either, but 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.880 let's say, well we'll go with a year, okay. And 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.200 and then they decide, Okay, do I want to go 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.200 back to the church or do I want to just 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.640 continue living with the English? Um. Since they haven't taken 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.280 an oath to the church yet, they could conceivably still 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:38.480 be um. They could have ties to their family, their 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.520 Amish family, even if they decided to leave the Amish community. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.800 They're not shunned, which is what they call it, right, 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:45.760 So they haven't broken an oath to the church, so 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.240 they're not shunned. What is shunning, intel shunning is when 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.719 you have taken that up to the church. So you've 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.199 made that decision beyond the age of sixteen, and then 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:57.640 you leave and don't come back. Well, you're not wanted back. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.000 You can't come back though. If you're sixteen and you leave, 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.520 they will let you back in if you say, boy, 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.160 I've made a big mistake. But if you leave forever, 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.480 they will shun you permanently, which means no ties, no family, 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:13.760 no Christmas at home, no Thanksgiving, no Easter, nothing like that. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:17.240 They celebrate all those Yeah, well they're Christians. Yeah, alright, 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.160 So the kid and what's what's what's um? I find 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:24.040 it hartening that the vast majority of Amish kids who 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.839 go on rum Springer come back, you know, so they 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.679 they've made the choice. Now they're going to become indoctrinated 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.120 in the church their sixteen but they either towards the 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.760 end of the sixteenth year, right right, and they're saying 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:41.679 I'm gonna be Amish. What is Amish life like, Well, 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:43.559 they've already experienced a lot of it because you grow 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:48.080 up with the ordining being pounded into your head, which 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:52.600 is the German word for order. And that's there, they said. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.880 It's mostly unwritten, just their sort of way of life. 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.160 How to be Amish Amish for dummies, right, is the 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.840 ord And and you actually don't have to be real 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.959 book smart actually, because the Amish don't believe in um 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.800 extraneous book learning. Why would they. They think you need 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:15.280 to learn a vocation or craft and probably and it 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.920 makes a certain amount of sense from a very religious standpoint. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.400 Knowing too much is kind of unhealthy and frankly a 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.400 little vain. We're very vain, chuck, Well, and that's what 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.760 it's all about. You're talking about the dress and the 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.080 electricity and all that. All of that has to do 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.760 with the fact that they shun uh things of the world, 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:37.360 vanity and ego and pride, and you know, clothing obviously 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.200 leads to that when you're all wearing different clothes, you 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.840 want to dress nice and dress better than your neighbor, 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.640 save up money and spend money and decide spend time 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.200 deciding what to wear. None of that works with the Amish, 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:53.000 and like we said, neither does electricity. All of their 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:58.040 power comes from either they may have electricity, but it's 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:02.560 coming from a diesel generator um. Or they have gas. 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:07.280 They can burn gas in their house in oil obviously right. Um. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:11.200 And so they don't have artificial light, which makes me 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.720 wonder something and you couldn't find the answer to this. 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:18.000 But um, before the advent of artificial light, apparently humans 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.000 had a totally different sleep pattern then we have. Now 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:25.640 we went to bed mater earlier, but about two three one, 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.960 sometime in the night we'd wake up for a good 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.840 thirty thirty minutes or an hour, smoke a pipe, read 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.640 a book, hang out that kind of thing, and then 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.960 go back to sleep. But with do you really smoke 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.160 a pipe read a book? Do you do you smoke 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.400 a pipe while you read a book? Yeah? Yeah, I 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.680 just go back to sleep. And Emily's always like, what 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:49.320 are you doing? You're like, I'm just being a plane. 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.840 Yeah yeah. Um. But I wonder if the Amish still 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.600 have that kind of sleep pattern, because apparently artificial light 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.520 eradicated that. Well. Yeah, and even if you're using oil 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.280 lamps and candles, you don't want to in those until midnight, 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.480 you know, so you you would probably go to bed earlier. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.560 Otherwise you're wasting They're not big into waste, you'd be 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.600 wasting the oil just to stay up till midnight, because 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.960 what do you stand up for? Because all I gotta 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.320 do is get back up the next day and work 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.560 your butt off. So yeah, and they do because again 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.680 they're farmers. And one of the reasons that they've hung 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:22.480 on to farming, um is, as I guess it's kind 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.640 of symbolic, chuck, it's a way to separate themselves. Um. 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.120 The rest of the world has, you know, moved forward 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.360 and with its book learning and all that book learning. Yeah. Yeah, 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:33.840 I've got a crop list for you if you want 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.480 to know. Let's hear it in order of acreage. The 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:41.200 Amish grow corn the most. Makes sense, hey, wheat, tobacco, 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.680 which kind of surprised me. Uh, soybean, barley, and potatoes. 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.800 And that's just the farming tip. They also obviously they 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.680 quilt and they make uh they're big craftsmen, furniture builders. Yeah, 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:56.200 apparently they're they're big new thing now or utility sheds um. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.240 And and as you mentioned, the quilt Amish quilts are 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:04.080 like among some of the ladies, amongst certain quarters of femininity. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.719 Amish quilts are like as good as it gets. And 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.280 apparently you used to be able to get these things, 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:14.640 really detailed ornate quilts um for nothing. And then after 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.359 a while the Amish were like, oh, English, you really 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.360 like these things? How much do you pay for him? 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:24.040 And apparently they peaked at thousands of dollars in the 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.040 eighties and then finally settled down and now they're like 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:31.480 a grand still, which is really that's an expensive quilt. 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:33.800 After we took advantage of them. It sounds like for 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.520 many years. Yeah, by saying I'll take this handmade thing 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.240 for seven dollars off your hands. There you go, Amish. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:44.280 But they they I'm surprised that they did allow it 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.680 to get as high as it did because they don't 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:52.280 really care much for cash. They don't use credit. Most 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.920 of their wealth or I guess net worth comes from 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.840 their real estate holdings. Yeah. That they own a lot 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.959 of Lancaster pennsylvani Lancaster County. Yeah, and everywhere they go 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.960 they buy a lot of land. Um that's sixteen year 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:06.880 old that just became in doctor nating in the church 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.960 One of the things that um he or she will 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.439 be getting into about now is the courtship of a 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:19.240 husband or wife. Right, so when you're about sixteen, Um, 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:23.560 you start to drink lemonade on the porch, fitz or sweetie, 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:25.919 Um you'll you'll drive her to in the buggy or 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.800 walk with her to the singing service. Yeah, and singing 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:35.760 is actually um their courtship ritual and wedding ceremonies are 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.280 really detailed. I didn't realize this. It's pretty cool. You 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.280 want to go over it. Well, yeah, well the singing 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:41.920 thing is not done anything to do with that. That's 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.840 just what young single Amish kids do for fun, right right, 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:47.560 But I mean it's kind of a range so that 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:49.520 this is part of the courtship process. So you can 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.760 spend some time with somebody else that you're you know, 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.360 looking to wed. That's what they say. Yeah, they do. 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.280 And they don't always sing um religious songs either, because 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.080 there's not anything else they can do. They can't dance, 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.560 can't play musical instruments. It's like John Lithgow lives there. 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.239 I don't even know what that means. Haven't you ever 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.399 seen Footloose? Oh? Sure, I thought you were talking about 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.240 Dexter or Third Rock from the Sun or something. He's 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.200 on Dexter. Yeah, he played a serial killer in the 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.480 last season. I haven't gotten there yet. Creepy. Yeah, he's 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.720 He's good a creepy You else is creeping out and 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.800 thinking of it. There's a little often topic, but Amish 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:30.159 dolls do not have faces. Why because it goes with 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.440 the whole vanity thing, and it was like a long 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.879 standing tradition that they just kind of held onto, like 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:37.600 they don't want their photograph taken. They don't want their 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:41.240 faces displayed as a graven image, so their baby dolls 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.960 have no faces. It's cool, it's creepy as hell, dude. 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.159 Have you seen the video of the little baby that 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:51.399 was born with no eyes on Good Morning America? Was 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:55.360 she Amish? No? No? This that was a total sidebar 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.680 then yeah, okay. And also you were saying about the 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.760 dolls being faceless. Apparently with the quilts, there was a 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:06.480 myth that grew up that every Amish quilt has a 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.640 purposeful flaw so that they don't create anything perfect. Yeah, 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:14.480 not true, but they said there are likely flaws because 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.520 anything handmade is going to have a cross or a 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.000 off stitch, but it's not like they do it on 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:24.160 purpose or anything that's silly. So a couple of Amish 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.360 teens are courting, Yeah, they're courting back to the court. 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:30.760 That's about sixteen. Usually they're twenty or older when they 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.560 finally get married to the court for years. Well, there's 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.280 actually studies that I've read that um show that the 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:40.439 longer the courtship, the more lasting the marriage. Uh, just 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.639 in general, not just yeah, not just among Amish, but 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.080 with any humans. That makes sense. Sure, you see these 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.520 people get married after these celebrities get married after a 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.280 few months of being on set together, and then you 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:52.720 get on the next movie and they're like, oh, I 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.160 think I love my New Coast Now. Yeah, those people 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.160 are crazy. They're like the opposite of the Amish, complete 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.359 opposite of the Amish. So they're courting, Josh. They are 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.399 allowed to spend time together, they encouraged to spend private 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.840 time together, but it would be unseemly if they did 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:12.080 this um behind closed doors, so they keep it, like 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.879 you said, on the front porch. Uh. They do have 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:18.119 chaperone's right, Yeah, but a good chaperone like knows to 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:20.680 not pay too much attention they're just kind of there 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.840 to let everybody else know we're not letting these two 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.760 go back on run spring. It's so weird. It seems 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:30.480 they're so on one end, very rigid with the with 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.320 the ordinaning, but on the other end they're very permissive, 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.720 you know. They just the fact that they allow rum 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:40.240 springing to me is amazing. It's such a healthy, brave custom. Yeah, 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:42.439 because you're saying, like, go go figure out if you 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:44.040 really want to do, if you like it, come back, 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:46.600 and I mean you're it's poses such a huge risk 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:48.840 that like these people are gonna be like, hell, yes, 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:52.440 I like electricity and I really love crystal meth. Yeah. 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.520 You would think it these days that very few Amish 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.160 kids would come back. Yeah, but they do. And when 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:01.960 they do their courting courting again now they're getting married. Yes, 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:04.919 what do you say about about twenty And actually it 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:10.680 happens at the same time for everybody, right fall November, Yeah, November, 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:15.640 um is the favorite month. Winter hasn't begun yet, um, 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:19.520