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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know

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Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always is

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Speaker 1: Charles Chuck Bryant. Yes right, yes, yeah, Hey Chuck. How's

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Speaker 1: it going? Man? Oh? Great? Yeah, things are great. You know,

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Speaker 1: I love podcasting on Monday mornings or afternoon's afternoon? What

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Speaker 1: time is It's one? It seems like I just got

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Speaker 1: here though. Yeah. I've been getting here late lately, and

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that extra half hour it feels

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Speaker 1: like it eats up four hours of productivities. We are

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Speaker 1: you driving a buggy to work? I am I, Chuck.

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Speaker 1: I We should say I and nay throughout this, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: nay on the I nay um Chuck, Josh. Let me

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Speaker 1: take you back in time a little bit, say seventeen seven.

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Speaker 1: It's a long time. Imagine Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. Okay. All

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, a new group of people show up

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Speaker 1: and they seem nice enough, you know, they seem hard

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Speaker 1: the welcome to the New world colonizing neighbor pies start

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Speaker 1: drying up as the surrounding people who will heretofore be

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Speaker 1: It is. Well, we're talking about Chuck. In case you

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Speaker 1: haven't guessed, is the Amish. I knew this because you

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Speaker 1: read the article. Yeah, good thing. These people are incredibly

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Speaker 1: interesting to me. Yeah. Me. To remember, we said on

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Speaker 1: these people wrote in like jerks, what about rum spring

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's letters on crystal meth rum springing. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: was even Catholic. Wow, it's weird. Yeah, and it is humbling,

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Speaker 1: Did he not want to celebrate Josh Communion twice a year?

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Speaker 1: they wear frock dresses, black capes, which I find kind

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Speaker 1: really it's very insightful. Okay, So I had a pretty dark,

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Speaker 1: that which I thought was kind of cool. They do

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00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: it by girl, Yeah, the woman. That's very woman centric

421
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: in the marriage weddings or weddings, I should say, yes. Um.

422
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 1: So there's a list that's published, and by published we

423
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: mean that the deacon reads the names off and that's

424
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: all the kids who are gonna get married that year, right, Yeah,

425
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 1: none of them are there. Well, that would be the

426
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: dead giveaway to me, because everybody's at church. Yeah, which

427
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: is they don't have a church. Actually we left that

428
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: part out. Yeah. They do the church services in the homes.

429
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: Uh so, and it rotates from Sunday to Sunday. Yeah,

430
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: so every home it needs to be capable of hosting

431
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: church service. And in these church services there in pretting

432
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: the Bible. Literally we left that part out too. We

433
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: didn't leave any hanging out. We're just we're jumping around. Okay,

434
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: this is this is amage country. You can do whatever

435
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: you want because we know what electricity means. Right. Um.

436
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: So yes, they are published, they are announced. Um they

437
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: are not there because they're enjoying time with their family

438
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: at a private meal, private meal together and this is

439
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: where it all kicks off. This is where it all

440
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: gets sexy. Well, I don't know about that. So the

441
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: wedding actually takes place in the home to um bride's home,

442
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: which is where the honeymoon take I'm sorry the they

443
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: live in the bride's home afterward. Yeah for a good

444
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: uh I think six months a year. Yeah, and the

445
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: honeymoon takes place. They just go to visit other relatives. Yeah,

446
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: pretty pretty hot and heavy. I think, yeah, this is

447
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: this is crazy when when they actually do have the

448
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 1: wedding ceremony, and let me also just let me rephrase

449
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: that this is crazy. I don't think what the amage

450
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: too is crazy. It's interesting, yeah, very interesting. Um, the

451
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: the for the wedding ceremony, it lasts several hours, which

452
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: I would go absolutely craz easy. I can barely make

453
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: it through a full hour long Catholic Mass type wedding. Yeah,

454
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: they're they're uncomfortable. Can you imagine a few hours. Yeah,

455
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: my wedding ceremony would lasted about four and a half minutes.

456
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: Didn't was the preacher like bingo bango, you guys are

457
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: well the preacher was my father in law. So okay,

458
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: he'd put a scotch down and said, by the power

459
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: of the Internet, you were a man and wife. Nice.

460
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: Um yeah, okay, Well multiply that by several hours. Uh,

461
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: and then it's done and everybody starts feasting. Um. And

462
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: then the first night, yes, Chuck is spent at the

463
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: bride's parents house. So nothing else needs to be said

464
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: about that. No, but it's since we've been on rum springet.

465
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: That means that there's probably plenty of Amish kids, Amish

466
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: married couples who weren't virgins at marriage. Oh can they

467
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: do the sex when they are on rum I have

468
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: the impression that you can do anything you want on

469
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: rum Spring, including still meth well, and it doesn't necessarily

470
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: indicate that the Amish are anti intercourse or anything. No.

471
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: I mean I think if you're married and it's a

472
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: blessed union from God, then feel free, sure in a

473
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: one room house with your laws in the next pet Yeah,

474
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: feel free. Yeah. And then like you said, check the

475
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: honeymoon is on weekends because of course during the week

476
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: you're working like nothing happened, um, And but on weekends

477
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: you go around and visit family and stay with him

478
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: for the weekend. Yeah, which is pretty cool. Probably more

479
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: butter turns. And then you're you're set up. After six months,

480
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: you're living with the h the bride's parents. And then

481
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: after six months or a year, one of the two,

482
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: it's time to get your own place. And remember the Amish,

483
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: This Amish guy who's like twenty or twenty one hasn't

484
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: spent his whole life, you know, saving up for this. Yeah,

485
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: he didn't have a pot to uh too, which is interesting.

486
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: You say that we'll get to that and say we'll

487
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: get the um. No, but there is a community pot

488
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: which everyone's expected to throw into. And from this community

489
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: pot and from any familial help, um, the kids get

490
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: their own farm. They buy the farm. Yeah, we'll raise

491
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: We'll raise you a barn. Nice lovely young couple. Yeah.

492
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Witness? You know, it's on my

493
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: my tebow right now. I have never seen it though,

494
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: good movie, and it's been sitting there for weeks. When

495
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: Harrison Ford's out of Veneer finally cracks and he comes

496
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: to see the value of the Amish way of life.

497
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: How misunderstood. They are beautiful. Um. But there's a barn

498
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: raising in there, and it's you know, everybody gets together.

499
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: They build the walls and then push them up and

500
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: you know everybody's pitching. It's a very um communal affair. Well,

501
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: you have to. That's one of the tenants of being

502
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: Amish is you have to lend a hand. So definitely,

503
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: unless it's in a combat situation. Right, So, if your neighbor,

504
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: if you're Amish neighbor, if you see him coming over

505
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: with a hammer in in his hand. You don't like

506
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: pull the blind shut and lock the door like I would. Off, No, no, no,

507
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: you gotta go help the guy. Yeah, it's all about

508
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: the community. So the kids are all set up, they

509
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: have their house. Sure, they raise the barn. Let's look

510
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: around inside. We'll go out into the barn in a minute. Okay,

511
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: but we're inside right, and it looks pretty much like

512
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: the eighteenth century. Yeah, it's not fancy. There's not a

513
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: lot of obviously, there's no gadgets or anything like that.

514
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: Very plain handmade furniture. Um, you know what you might

515
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: find the josh, you might find a modern stove if

516
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: it burns would Yeah, there's are it seems like there's

517
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: a lot of contradictions here there and amously like why

518
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: would you have a modern appliance? The point is that

519
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: you'd have a modern appliance that burns would or can

520
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: run on gas because remember you can use gas as

521
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: long as you're not connected to the grid. They look um,

522
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: But it makes sense because it's cheaper. It's gonna use

523
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: less um less source energy. Yeah, it's gonna require less input.

524
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: I mean, and I mean, think about it. If you

525
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: get like an antique or like a reproduction old wood

526
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: burning stove. That thing's gonna cost you a mint, and

527
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: it's actually kind of vain that you would do. So, yeah,

528
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: you might find something that makes life easier that doesn't

529
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: radically undermine the community structure, and you're not being vain

530
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: about if if a technology makes it through those that

531
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: that that criteria, then it might be adopted. Yeah, and

532
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: then if it passes the ordining. And one of the

533
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: examples in the article I thought was good is, for instance,

534
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: the use of nylon rope instead of hemp rope. If

535
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: it can accomplish what you need to get done and

536
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: doesn't disrupt or bring attention to to itself, then they

537
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: may accept this new technology as long as you can

538
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: still have that community communion twice a year. Right and

539
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: watch the feed. Right, let's go out into the dairy barn. Chuck.

540
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: Our socks are about to be blown off, dude, right

541
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: you know why? Yeah, because dude, there is not the

542
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: little Amish man sitting on a stool with a pale

543
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: milking a cow. No, they may do that for their

544
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: own milk, but they have modern equipment, refrigerated tanks running

545
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: on electricity milking machines. Yeah. And the reason why is

546
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: because the Amish aren't dumb. They know that they are

547
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: living in twenty one century America. They also realized there

548
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: is such thing as the f d A and if

549
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: they're trying to sell their milk, then yeah, they have

550
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: to meet those those basic standards in in in century America.

551
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: These basic standards include you know, electricity powered cooling tanks

552
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: and milk pumping and stuff like that. I mean, you're

553
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: running an actual dairy farm and you have to kind

554
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: of meet those standards. So yeah, but there is this

555
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: place is crazy. It's humming. Yeah, move but of course

556
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: it's run by the generator still because they're still off

557
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: the grid. Um. I found it interesting that they I'm

558
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 1: sure it hasn't been a picnic or easy, but they

559
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: seem to have worked with the US government over the

560
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: years and kind of working some of these things out,

561
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: like school, Yeah, like compulsory education. They they let them

562
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: go do their own school to think till the eighth

563
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: grade is when they're required to go. And they kind

564
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: of just said, all right, you know, if you're going

565
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: to school your kids that way, that's fine. Do taxes

566
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: stay here? They do not have to pay Social Security tax. No,

567
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: and they don't borrow. No. Um, they do pay tax though, yeah,

568
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: they do, like they pay property taxes and stuff, just

569
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: not social Security tax because they don't draw Social Security

570
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: or Medicare or which is kind of because you and

571
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: I are never going to see a penny of Social

572
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: Security and we still pay it. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah,

573
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: maybe you should grow a beard with no mustache. Okay,

574
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: we should both do that. Yeah, it looks kind of goofy.

575
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: I think it looks cool. You really like see every coop? Yeah,

576
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: it's such a look though, you know it's you. It's

577
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: really specific. Look. It definitely is. Um, chuck. We said

578
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: that they don't borrow, but they do engage in trade. Um.

579
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: They somebody's got to buy that milk, right, Um. So

580
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: what they do is they deal with middlemen as often

581
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: as possible, and generally these are Mennonites, because the Mennonites

582
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: are very very similar to the Amish right, but the

583
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: Mennonites have no rules against socializing with the outside world.

584
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: So if you have the Amish, you stick to themselves,

585
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: socialize with as few people as possible. You get a

586
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: couple of good men and knights who have some stores

587
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: or whatever, um that that will sell your stuff, and

588
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: they turn around and sell it to everybody else. It

589
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: works out great, it definitely does. They They say, hey,

590
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: we have we need five utility sheds this month, um,

591
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: go build them. They build them. They didn't go and

592
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: pick them up from them, sell them to the people,

593
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: deliver them cash. They do use the lumber we should

594
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: point out. They obviously don't make their own paint and

595
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: shingles and things like that and mill their own wood,

596
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: although someone might mill would but they do order to

597
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: get orders from lumber yards and they'll bring the stuff

598
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: out to them, except payment on the spot, just to

599
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: make it easy cash or barter. Obviously, they still don't,

600
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, throw the Amex black down. No, I mean,

601
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: if they don't have cashley just don't do it. Yeah.

602
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, if they can barter, I think that's probab

603
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: be preferable. Right, And they go to other mom and

604
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: pop stores here and there. But you you probably won't

605
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: find any Walmart in Lancaster County with a lot of

606
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: buggies in the parking lot. No, it's a little too Gerish,

607
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: a little too Gerish. And actually they said that the

608
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: tourism that's surrounded around the Amish way of life UM

609
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: has people look for stores with buggies out front or whatever,

610
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: and then they come there like just to go see

611
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: the Amish. Right, But if they were, if they're encountering

612
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: a smart mom and pop store owner, they probably just

613
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: have a couple of buggies that are out front all

614
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: the time, and the Amish aren't anywhere around. But it

615
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: still draws the tourists and the Amish are really off

616
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: the beaten path on some back road. The store that

617
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: doesn't even have a sign that they just heard of

618
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: by word of mouth because this person opened just to

619
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: deal with the Amish. Well, they said, that's a good

620
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: way to get some pretty steady business. Open up a

621
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: mom and make your own sign. Don't get a neon

622
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: sign in the window they don't like. Just be smart.

623
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: And we're talking about the Ordon right ord, and how

624
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: that um that that serves as the keystone the foundation

625
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: of all Amish life, but it's also something can be

626
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: passed through it. It's a prism that that new technologies

627
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: passed through, right, and then they agree on whether it

628
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: harms them or not, and if it doesn't, they adopt it.

629
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I found interesting was

630
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Speaker 1: that um out of the necessity for travel, you know,

631
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: with more and more Amish moving out to like Utah, um,

632
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: you can't just go through the horse and buggy. So

633
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: what they've determined is that if you don't own or

634
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: operate mechanical vehicle, you can still travel in it, which

635
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: means they can fly on an airplane because they don't

636
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: own it and they're not operating it. And I think

637
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: that's cool how it's still I think that's probably how

638
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: they've managed to survive. And actually, in the last fifty

639
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: years their number is tripled. They're about a hundred thousand

640
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: Amish living in the US, so they're yeah, and they're thriving,

641
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: I think because they figured out how to adapt and

642
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: evolve as little as possible, but they're still adapting and evolving.

643
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty cool personally. It means they're not,

644
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: as the article says, stuck in time and completely closed

645
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: off to everything. They just only adopt something if it

646
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: really helps their way of life without causing a negative

647
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: impact on their life. It seems pretty open minded to me.

648
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, a lot of the Amish stuff though,

649
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: made me not want to run off and be Amish.

650
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: But they kind of have it going on. You know,

651
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: they've got the right idea about so many things you

652
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: don't have to be Amish to, you know, live a

653
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: simpler life stuff. And you know, you can join the Amish.

654
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: I read that you can. Um, it is possible to

655
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: be accepted even though you were not born and raised Amish.

656
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: But it really doesn't happen very often at all because, ay,

657
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: they're not looking to recruit, you know, they don't proselytize,

658
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: go door to door like you know some Christians do. UM,

659
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: So chances are you're not gonna just hear about it

660
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: and want to do it. Second of all, you need

661
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: to speak the language Low German low German. So if

662
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: you speak low German, you might have a good chance.

663
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: And thirdly, it's just not very often that someone would

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Speaker 1: want to grow up in the secular world and just

665
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: get rid of all that unless they joined some hippie

666
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: commune and or unless they're Harrison Ford, unless they're Did

667
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: he join? Is that what happened? Yeah? I think in

668
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: the end, if I remember correct, then he goes back

669
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: or something like that. I think that's it right, Chuck.

670
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: It's like Jerry's looking at It's like, yeah, it's been

671
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: like seventy minutes, has it? Has it been that long?

672
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: Because I had one other thing about the funeral. Well,

673
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: the funeral is much like you would think. It's a

674
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: plain wooden box. And um, they do utilize the services

675
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: of an embalmer, but there are no flowers. There's no singing.

676
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: Even at the funeral, they actually uh quote lines from

677
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: hymns they speak them only, and but they do not

678
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: they wear white at funerals usually, and they do not

679
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: raise the dead, just respect. So even in death, there's

680
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: not like adulation heaped on anyone. It's all very much

681
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: just like Daniel Proctor did a very fine thing in

682
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: his life, and now he is dead. He could butter

683
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: and he did. Now they'd be uh, they'd be too

684
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: much idolizing. Well, let me say this real quick to Chuck.

685
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: One of the coolest photos I've ever seen in my

686
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: entire life was taken at a funeral of a m

687
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: a person whose house was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina. And

688
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: this is like a couple of years after and as

689
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: Amish couple who I guess had made friends with the

690
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: person was attending the funeral among all the English and

691
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: everybody else is just dressed normally. And there's this a

692
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: very solemn, steadfast Amish couple of youngest Amish couple in

693
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: their thirties. I would say, just at this guy's funeral,

694
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: it was really awesome. It's cool. We should also point

695
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: out they don't shun medicine. They're not Christian scientists. They

696
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: lead that up to the individual, so like they well,

697
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: if someone has an act indent, they will actually get

698
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: into an ambulance and go to the hospital. And speaking

699
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: of accidents, to prevent those, they have come to accept

700
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: putting flashers and orange hazard triangles on their buggies because

701
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: it's just common sense and the Amish have that in aces. Yeah,

702
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: this is just a small bit though, Like this is

703
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: the Lancaster County Amish, or like ten percent of the Amish,

704
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: and this is really who we've been talking about. Yeah,

705
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: there are other sex or other it's all local. The

706
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: ordung Um ordnung Uh is decentralized. I mean that is

707
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: the central authority, but it's all interpreted on the local level.

708
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: So what one Amish group believes is not necessarily the

709
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: exact same as the other. So that was the twist

710
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: at the end that Chuck just gave. We were talking

711
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: about the Lancaster County Amish the whole time, right memento

712
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: or I thought you're gonna say in Night sham Lanxia

713
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: that stupid movie the Village. I thought that twist is

714
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: pretty cool, but I don't know if the whole movie

715
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: was worth working up to it. That was awful, So Chuck,

716
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: that's it, okay, all right? Oh yeah, if you want

717
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: to know more about the Amish, handy search bar, et cetera. Chuck,

718
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: it's time for listening. Man. We must be on on

719
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: the I'm tired of Jerry Starr and be like this.

720
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: It's making me nervous. I'm gonna call this email. My

721
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: father in law, Kurt Josh and Chuck conducted a primitive

722
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: tribe contact in the early eighties, so this is about

723
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: the unknown people. His stories are really wild. This is

724
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: an oblivion portion of Amazon rainforest anyway, that got attacked

725
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: by Yukwa Euqui natives who saw past the banana and

726
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: other offerings. So I guess they offered banana and they

727
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: were like, not so much. We've got tons of that, right,

728
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: his translator took a six ft arrow in the back

729
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: and I think that's called a spirit. Well that's what

730
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, And you would think, so buddy

731
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: could listen to this. They had two man bows. One

732
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: guy would hold the bow and the other guy would

733
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: pull back the line. So it was, in fact the

734
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: six foot arrow. Kurt still has one of the other

735
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: arrows retreat from the site. In fact, they have all

736
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: kinds of pictures in the photo album, including pictures of

737
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: my wife who was four and five in the buff

738
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: because everyone was in the buff, the tribes people were.

739
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: They lived in a little hut. Wait, this guy married

740
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: a tribes person. No, no, no, he was just doing

741
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: work there. Um. They lived off in the land in

742
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: a little hut and worked to build an airstrip to

743
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: fly supplies for an outpost. Very unomish. My mother in

744
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: law can prepare a wild chicken, very Amishka and she

745
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: incurred have gone to special kind of preparatory boot camp.

746
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: And he is one of my heroes. And so that

747
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: is from Ryan and Lynchburg and his wife Crystal wrote

748
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: me shortly thereafter to set the record straight on some

749
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: of Ryan's facts. But I'm not gonna read Crystals because

750
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: Ryan's is much more interesting. So he made up the

751
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: two mambo. No, he She just said it sounds way

752
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: more Indiana Jones than it really was, and it was

753
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: really like this. But we'll just we'll just keep the

754
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: fanciful version alive. Thank you, Ryan and Crystal. Yeah, and

755
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: here's to your four year long courtship, which we can

756
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: only imagine. Right. Yeah, if you've had an extended courtship

757
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: and have a great relationship to speak of because of it,

758
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,840
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00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,399
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760
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,160
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