Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two ninety five,
Speaker 1: Episode two of dir Daily's Ice Day production of ByHeart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday, July twelfth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: You know what that is?
Speaker 2: National Pecan Pie Day or Peacan Pie Day, depending on
Speaker 2: where you grew up.
Speaker 1: National Simplicity Day.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, paper Bag Day, eat
Speaker 2: your jell O Day, National Different Colored Eyes Day, and
Speaker 2: Malala Day.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm on board, shout out Malala. It on board
Speaker 1: with pretty much all those things.
Speaker 2: Paper Bag, simplicity, Pea campie, Yello, different colored eyes.
Speaker 1: I'm my mom's specialty growing up with Derby pie, which
Speaker 1: is peacm pie with chocolate chips in it. Oh, highly recommend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom's Derby Pie. I've never had it from anyone.
Speaker 2: I'm just from having her hookies alone. I'm like, I'll
Speaker 2: eat anything your mother makes.
Speaker 1: She's a wizard with the chocolate chips. You know, her
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving turkey stuffed with chocolate chocolate chip secret ingredient chocolate chiest.
Speaker 2: You haven't lived since since you've had a unless you've
Speaker 2: had a turkey thigh just injected with chocolate.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien aka Bananas O'Brien. Oh. I
Speaker 1: had a weird banana experience this morning where I opened
Speaker 1: a banana. It like felt stiff, but it wasn't like
Speaker 1: not ripe stiff. It was like ripe, but it was stiff.
Speaker 1: And then when I started breaking it apart in my
Speaker 1: kids cereal, there was like a wood. There's like wood
Speaker 1: in the like a stem in the middle of the banana,
Speaker 1: which will never happened to me before. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: let me know what's happening prout there, what happened with
Speaker 1: I'm throwing to be joined as always by my co host,
Speaker 1: mister Miles.
Speaker 3: Grad Miles Great aka Tune Around Zite Baby picking out
Speaker 3: the turtle shells, Eat Tune around Zite Baby picking out
Speaker 3: the turtle shells. I eat Tune around my baby and
Speaker 3: picking out the turtle shells.
Speaker 2: That's obviously a take on Bolson Parade by rage against
Speaker 2: the machine. Plus my love for subway tuna, which they
Speaker 2: say is turtle Maybe I don't know. I believe it's
Speaker 2: just tuna that's been so cooked to ship that all
Speaker 2: the genetic information has been just destroyed and they don't
Speaker 2: know what it is.
Speaker 1: But anyway, shout out.
Speaker 2: To Laceroni on the discord for that, and yeah, obviously
Speaker 2: shout out Subway Tuna most importantly shot on Subway Tuna miles.
Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined for the first time
Speaker 1: by a very funny TV writer, producer, stand up comedian
Speaker 1: who's one woman show. Oh god, a show about abortion
Speaker 1: was on Broadway last year Nobody. Yeah, it's Allison.
Speaker 4: Good Hello, Sadly off Broadway it's abortion, and then Broadway
Speaker 4: goes quite together Off Broadway.
Speaker 1: That missed off in the description, but it's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is it is? That?
Speaker 2: Is that like a big thing in Broadway where like
Speaker 2: people really gonna come?
Speaker 1: Like I get that, I get that there is a difference,
Speaker 1: but like at that point, you know.
Speaker 5: No idea, it's not idea whatsoever. I don't. I'm just like, well,
Speaker 5: it wasn't a musical, so right right, right, right right, which.
Speaker 4: I mean if somebody wants to write an abortion musical,
Speaker 4: like I'm here to help you.
Speaker 1: That would be great. Yeah, amazing in New York.
Speaker 4: I am in New York, Yes, running my way through
Speaker 4: New York right now.
Speaker 5: Not here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like he said, it's nineties nineties.
Speaker 4: I was out doing a w GA abortion rights picket
Speaker 4: today because it's fun to kind of combine all of
Speaker 4: the nightmares that are plaguing our current culture and try
Speaker 4: and fight them all at one two hour window. So
Speaker 4: I was outside marching around, and now I'm just pretty
Speaker 4: happy to be home and talking to you guys from
Speaker 4: my air conditioned departments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the what are the vibes of the w
Speaker 2: g A East, You know the crew is pulling up
Speaker 2: in New York because we see it all that. I
Speaker 2: want to what's what's the New York picket life?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: It's, uh, it's it's it's the New York.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It's I think that I haven't been to an LA
Speaker 4: pick it, but I've been to all the New York
Speaker 4: or a bunch of the New York ones, and it's
Speaker 4: exactly the same, like discrepancy between New York and l
Speaker 4: A and every other element of the entertainment industry. It's
Speaker 4: like lower key celebrities, Like everybody's carrying their coffee around
Speaker 4: Like it just feels like I'm like, yes, this is
Speaker 4: the New York side of the WJA it's but I
Speaker 4: did get to meet Mandy patank in a few weeks ago,
Speaker 4: and that was a thrilling appearance to.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 5: He's the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 5: That's a pretty good Appearance're some good ones?
Speaker 2: Is some is Drew Carey also paying for meals on
Speaker 2: the East Coast? If someone doing anything like that for y'all,
Speaker 2: or that's just they've had like food.
Speaker 4: Trucks and stuff pull up. And I think there's a
Speaker 4: couple of restaurants around town who offer a WGA discount
Speaker 4: if you have your membership card. But you know, we
Speaker 4: don't have We don't have very many game show hosts
Speaker 4: here who have just been rolling in cash for two
Speaker 4: dead So I don't know if anybody is like down
Speaker 4: to also just like New York, I mean, the food's
Speaker 4: so expensive.
Speaker 1: K is like off, look Bob's Big Boys one thing.
Speaker 1: But right I can't handle Russ and Daughters or something.
Speaker 5: It's like, oh my god, Rus Oughters would hook us up.
Speaker 5: I would be forever frilled.
Speaker 1: I feel like the night, like the nineties is when
Speaker 1: the garbage starts, like something gastronomical starts happening to the
Speaker 1: garbage juices. Yeah, like it create creates a garbage stew,
Speaker 1: and yeah, kind of smell it everywhere. Have you smelled
Speaker 1: anything interesting?
Speaker 4: It's a smell like like compares to nothing else. They're
Speaker 4: really like hot garbage is just I think that most
Speaker 4: people don't even really understand what it smells like unless
Speaker 4: you've been in New York when it's ninety five degrees
Speaker 4: or you know what, I've smelled it in La I'll
Speaker 4: be honest. You just have to be on the wrong
Speaker 4: street corner at the wrong time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, totally. It's more pervasive in New York.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just you can't escape it. It's just too
Speaker 4: small of an island to possibly outrun a smell.
Speaker 1: So there's when I lived there, there was like a
Speaker 1: month where my entire neighborhood smelled like maple syrup for
Speaker 1: no reason I can't explain.
Speaker 5: I remember that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they found out it was like winds were blowing,
Speaker 4: wasn't it just like preservative factories and like the process
Speaker 4: feel like it was like you know the place where
Speaker 4: they make like vanilla extract or something.
Speaker 2: Oh so wait, so we did get to the bottom.
Speaker 2: Jack would always talk about He's like, you always bring
Speaker 2: this up about the maul syrup.
Speaker 1: But there was it. That's what the government wants you
Speaker 1: to believe. It was Preserve, but I think it was
Speaker 1: ghosts of some sort. Yeah, yeah, all right, Allison, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to know you a little bit better in
Speaker 1: a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple
Speaker 1: of the things we're talking about today. We're gonna check
Speaker 1: it with my pillow guy. What's he been up to?
Speaker 1: He was everywhere there for a little while. How are
Speaker 1: things working out for him? Let's check in. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a big masculinity push happening in politics right now. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's a dumb thing to say, like Idiocricy
Speaker 1: was a documentary, but it truly feels like in this moment,
Speaker 1: politics is trending in the direction of like WWE wrestling,
Speaker 1: everybody's just like trying to be the stronger, bigger person.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the ORB in Las Vegas because
Speaker 1: I can't stop thinking about it. You really fucking, really
Speaker 1: fucking got me, man. So just just a little backstory
Speaker 1: and a future story of like what it's aimed at,
Speaker 1: who's behind the ORB. It's very sinister, and we will
Speaker 1: talk about the Barbenheimer phenomenon, the phenomenon of Barbie and
Speaker 1: Oppenheimer coming out on the same day. Why are they
Speaker 1: coming out on the same day, And just the craze
Speaker 1: that it has caused. They've sold twenty thousand double bills,
Speaker 1: Like twenty thousand fans will be catching a double feature.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, it's a long day.
Speaker 1: That is a long day, long day. Like the filmmakers
Speaker 1: are like publicly on board, but I feel like that's
Speaker 1: the worst way to experience one of those movies. Whatever
Speaker 1: comes second is gonna be grueling, Like you know, what
Speaker 1: I want my for people watching my Barbie movie is
Speaker 1: for it to feel emotionally grueling.
Speaker 2: That would be wild to chase Barbie. Like I always say,
Speaker 2: following Barbie up with Oppenheimer is a true test of
Speaker 2: like your mental fortitude, I think, because I didn't realize
Speaker 2: Oppenheimer's three hours, Yeah no, these are and Barbie's one
Speaker 2: fifty four. We're calling that too too, ye yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: You go Oppenheimer first, Barbie's gonna feel real long like
Speaker 1: that of that extra twenty four minutes after it's the
Speaker 1: hour and a half march.
Speaker 2: You're to be like, yo, that's what I'm saying, I
Speaker 2: think Oppenheimer after Barbie, you'd completely lose all sense of
Speaker 2: time and like you're where you are on Earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in Oppenheimer before Barbie never sicker, you know,
Speaker 1: the old thing. But before we get to any of
Speaker 1: that bullshit, Alison, we do like to ask our guests,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that is revealing
Speaker 1: about who you are?
Speaker 4: I yesterday was looking up the public pool hours in
Speaker 4: New York because I'm a huge, huge, huge advocate of
Speaker 4: going to the public pools in New York City because
Speaker 4: everybody's like, I mean, ew, gross, the public pools, like
Speaker 4: I'd rather go to a hotel, And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: but the pools are run by the city and have
Speaker 4: like really intense guidelines about how clean they have to be.
Speaker 4: And you know who doesn't have those guidelines any hotel.
Speaker 4: I don't know if any hotel pools are getting cleaned.
Speaker 4: And the way that the public pools in New York
Speaker 4: are so I'm a huge fan. They're freezing cold if
Speaker 4: you live in New York, They're super They're like cause
Speaker 4: they're like cooling centers, like they'refore people, especially if you
Speaker 4: don't have air conditioning in the summer. They're also the
Speaker 4: location of a lot of the free lunches that get
Speaker 4: you know, for students, so in the summer you're not
Speaker 4: in school, that's where they do it. I love, love,
Speaker 4: love the public pools, but I was I've never gone
Speaker 4: early enough to know what time they open, so I
Speaker 4: was like, I guess I should find out. And it's eleven,
Speaker 4: which I think is a little close for me, so
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'll ever get there at opening.
Speaker 1: But noon feels right right right right up in New York.
Speaker 4: In New York, now, yeah, I grew up in Maryland,
Speaker 4: but I've been here for sixteen or seventeen years, which
Speaker 4: is crazy because I'm twenty god so much just kidding,
Speaker 4: I would never want to be twenty again, my god.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, some of the most chaotic times in my life. Okay,
Speaker 2: because like La, the pools in La are just because
Speaker 2: of the ambient heat, not always like super cool, but
Speaker 2: you definitely cool off. But then we also just have
Speaker 2: like all those like splash parks. Now we're just basically
Speaker 2: equivalent of like an open fire hydrant. Yeah, a like
Speaker 2: foam ground area to make it sea. Yeah for kids.
Speaker 2: I love the public pools in La though too. I
Speaker 2: used to go swim in those when I lived there.
Speaker 5: They're the best.
Speaker 1: I love the proofs.
Speaker 5: I guess that's that's something about me. I love pools.
Speaker 5: It's unique.
Speaker 6: I've talked before and hear about how my first job
Speaker 6: out of college was as a pool boy at the
Speaker 6: Soho House, the roof deck of the Soho House when
Speaker 6: that had just opened, and I was in charge of
Speaker 6: just to your point about them not having regulations, I
Speaker 6: was in charge of like the chlorine levels.
Speaker 1: Also. Yeah, they were like like there was Oh no.
Speaker 1: I had somebody who like knew more about it, who
Speaker 1: checked with me every once in a while, but I
Speaker 1: was like doing the pH testing, yeah, and was in
Speaker 1: no way equipped to do that. I had to like
Speaker 1: pull a drowning kid out of the pool one time
Speaker 1: I went there. I was there during the blackout of
Speaker 1: whatever year that was, yeah, two thousand and three, and
Speaker 1: everybody like came to that pool. It was a tiny pool.
Speaker 1: It was like halfway between a pool and a bath tub.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like the size of a couch.
Speaker 1: But everyone thought it would be a cool place to
Speaker 1: hang out, and it was like milky by the end.
Speaker 1: Of it because I didn't know what I was doing.
Speaker 1: They just like put whoever's up there in charge of
Speaker 1: like the chlorine levels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like on the other side, like in Vegas
Speaker 2: their pools, like if you open your eyes under the water,
Speaker 2: it will just strip like membranes from your like eyeballs.
Speaker 1: So yeah, your turns like five shades, Yes, just open
Speaker 1: them underwater. What is something, Allison that you think is overrated?
Speaker 5: Okay, this is a hot take? Uh hot take for
Speaker 5: a hot frozen drinks.
Speaker 4: I think, like I look, I love a frozen drink,
Speaker 4: Like I think it's a fun, but like I feel
Speaker 4: like I never taste the drink that I'm getting when
Speaker 4: it's frozen, because what you taste is cold, and I
Speaker 4: would rather have a drink that tastes like what it
Speaker 4: is and maybe is like chok full of ice, like
Speaker 4: a really icy Like I would rather have a great
Speaker 4: margarita on the rocks with a ton of ice than
Speaker 4: a frozen margarita because I love the taste of a margarita.
Speaker 4: It's like super tart, delicious. But I just think frozen
Speaker 4: drinks like are not They're not where it's at when
Speaker 4: it comes to taste.
Speaker 2: M oh, because like the little bits of ice are
Speaker 2: just kind of fucking yeah.
Speaker 4: And I think it's like such a shock to have
Speaker 4: like so much ice in your mouth at once that
Speaker 4: like I think it does like numb a little bit
Speaker 4: of your taste. This is me not being a scientist
Speaker 4: claiming this, but like I do think like your mouth
Speaker 4: is tasting.
Speaker 5: Cold, like you're so you're tasting cold cold.
Speaker 4: Which like great, There's times I totally want to taste cold, yeah,
Speaker 4: but most of the time I want to taste alcohols.
Speaker 2: Did you have something recently that that kicked this or
Speaker 2: was it a margarita? Was it a frozen a? Was
Speaker 2: it a frozen poaloma?
Speaker 5: Love a paloma?
Speaker 4: I recently chose a Rock's margarita over a frozen one
Speaker 4: when presented with the option, and I feel like I
Speaker 4: was met with a lot of kind of shock by
Speaker 4: the people I was with because it was hot outside.
Speaker 4: But I was like, I want to taste the lime
Speaker 4: and the tequila, and like That's what I'm getting the
Speaker 4: drink for, right right.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Because I think sometimes if the ratios are wrong,
Speaker 2: it is like hint of flavor with ice shards or
Speaker 2: like a bunch of snow or something.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, exactly, so that's you know, not not
Speaker 4: probably not a popular opinion.
Speaker 2: What about a slurpy? You know, we just are slurpy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say slurpy.
Speaker 5: Right, it's eleven one. Shit, myr is seven eleven.
Speaker 1: Oh someone's wheels are turning now, I'm like, how.
Speaker 4: Do I get a seven eleven? Like I love a slurpee,
Speaker 4: but again, like I think those first few SIPs are
Speaker 4: colder than they are flavorful. Once it kind of melts
Speaker 4: a little bit, then you're getting more of the delicious
Speaker 4: chemical syrup that makes us a special American drink.
Speaker 1: It has to be like ninety percent sweeter than it
Speaker 1: would otherwise, because yeah, it has to break through the
Speaker 1: overwhelming like the mouth feel that is just like I
Speaker 1: have snow in my mouth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I do.
Speaker 4: Like when you drink a slurpy, and I think other
Speaker 4: frozen drinks are similar, like there is an ability to
Speaker 4: kind of like suck up all the syrup and flavor
Speaker 4: and you're sometimes left with like a lighter color like
Speaker 4: I'm thinking of when I've drink, like had a slurpy
Speaker 4: and like then you're starting to see like oh, I'm
Speaker 4: sucking all the stuff from the bottom and then you're
Speaker 4: just left with this, like you know the concept of
Speaker 4: a flavor, crushed ice and like and you know it's
Speaker 4: like a whole.
Speaker 1: Yes, they flavored Liroi.
Speaker 4: Someone three rooms away says blueberries, and like that's what
Speaker 4: the flavor is, right, So yeah, I say, I think
Speaker 4: you know, there's a place and a time for something frozen.
Speaker 4: I do love a good slurpe, but I think they're
Speaker 4: overrated across the board.
Speaker 2: Frozen glass of rose better than froze, Yes.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent, and you'll get drunker fester. And isn't
Speaker 4: that what we're all after when we're having frozen alcoholic drinks?
Speaker 1: Truly? Truly? When someone so I froze, I guess probably
Speaker 1: missed me. Like do they serve it in the Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's got their thing everyone doing.
Speaker 2: It's like the new thing, especially in La with because
Speaker 2: it's that they heat. It's like there's froze. There's like
Speaker 2: frozen poalomas. Everywhere, there's frozen for gronies I've seen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like that's it's like the opposite of what
Speaker 4: a negroni is supposed to be about. I made froze
Speaker 4: at home a few years ago. Right, total plasts three
Speaker 4: kinds of alcohol. I made frose at home a few
Speaker 4: years ago. It's super easy too, Like you could just
Speaker 4: buy cheap rose and make ice cubes out of it
Speaker 4: and then blend that up with a little more wine
Speaker 4: and suddenly have frozen wine.
Speaker 1: There. It is. What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: I'm going to stick on a food kick here since
Speaker 4: I brought up drinks Parmesan goldfish. I don't know if
Speaker 4: people encounter these.
Speaker 1: Wow very often.
Speaker 4: They are harder to find. I have a bodega near
Speaker 4: me that does keep them sometimes. I just poured a
Speaker 4: bunch of my mouth before we started recording this. Actually,
Speaker 4: but it's just a nice like it's subtler than cheddar.
Speaker 4: But it's like a little more interesting than just like
Speaker 4: a plane cracker. Right, They're terrific if you see them.
Speaker 4: They have a green package.
Speaker 5: Yeah, get the parmesan goldfish.
Speaker 1: I'm such a goldfish purist, Like I don't even eat
Speaker 1: the flavor blasted ones.
Speaker 5: I tryed it to be overwhelming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a little I'm like, I'm a kid at
Speaker 2: heart who just remembers like the big carton being poured
Speaker 2: into my wax Dixie cup for snack time, and I
Speaker 2: just always want to like recreate that. But I've always
Speaker 2: I've never I don't think I've ever had the one,
Speaker 2: and I see it all the time, but I've just
Speaker 2: I'm ignorant.
Speaker 1: I'm like albino goldfish. Yeah, yeah, they look they's subtle.
Speaker 1: I am going to try them now, I've always steered clear.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's unnatural.
Speaker 4: I it does feel like one, you know, goldfish are
Speaker 4: supposed to be me on orange and these are not.
Speaker 4: And two, like, you know, parmesan is just like not
Speaker 4: a flavor I associate with a snack food that's like
Speaker 4: geared towards children.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think I'm.
Speaker 4: Like kids being like is this parmesan or pepperino? Like
Speaker 4: you like they don't. I don't that like very like
Speaker 4: nutty earthiness is not something I think kids are like
Speaker 4: really chasing after.
Speaker 5: But I'm an adult and I love them.
Speaker 1: The goldfish for your SHARKTERI board absolutely do you have
Speaker 1: the old fish? All right, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back to talk about some news
Speaker 1: and we're back. And my pillow guy, we love him,
Speaker 1: don't we? Folks. Oh yeah, he's he he. He hasn't
Speaker 1: really been in the news much lately after he just
Speaker 1: kind of quieted down for a while, but he does
Speaker 1: seem to be firmly in the find out phase of
Speaker 1: fucking around him finding out. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, you know, he had quite a run during the
Speaker 2: Trump presidency. You know, he went from wacky racist loser
Speaker 2: that sells pillows on TV to wacky racist loser that
Speaker 2: sells pillows on Fox News segments.
Speaker 1: Love from the commercials into the car. Is anyone I've
Speaker 1: done that before? I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, that is a glow up, you know,
Speaker 2: like a huge glow, game recognized game and show business. Look,
Speaker 2: you went from being the person who was paying to
Speaker 2: be on the show to just somehow being on the
Speaker 2: show because you were willing to say whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: was going on. And his love of Trump was the
Speaker 2: engine that drove him upwards and ultimately the catalyst for
Speaker 2: his professional implosion.
Speaker 1: And that never happens with people who partner up with Trump.
Speaker 1: It's so weird.
Speaker 2: It usually ends with you ascending to the highest heights.
Speaker 2: But you know, he's been one of the most vocal
Speaker 2: proponents of the Big Lie and he did countless live streams.
Speaker 2: We talked about the conventions he held and like where
Speaker 2: he was like, I'm going.
Speaker 1: To show you guys, like the real thing that's going on.
Speaker 2: Here, and that like never came to fruition and none
Speaker 2: of that happened. And his boner for up ending democracy
Speaker 2: has also cost him his business because multiple big big
Speaker 2: box retailers and websites have decided to no longer carry
Speaker 2: My Pillow products. He says his revenues have fallen by
Speaker 2: about one hundred million dollars. Now I'm just like, yeah, was.
Speaker 5: He making that much money?
Speaker 4: Like, I'm just so confused by that business, Like was
Speaker 4: it really successful?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Apparently.
Speaker 2: I mean let's see, I mean you can't really believe
Speaker 2: anything he said, but let's see what was what kind
Speaker 2: of revenues are there making in twenty nineteen seventeen point
Speaker 2: three ish? So I don't know what a hundred means.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a bit of hyperbole, but it did
Speaker 2: go from a like a multimillion dollar business too. Now
Speaker 2: he is trying to liquidate all of the equipment and
Speaker 2: furniture in his fucking factory. He's recently listed more than
Speaker 2: quote eight hundred and fifty surplus equipment items on an
Speaker 2: online auction site k bid. Sewing machines, industrial fabric spreaders, forklifts,
Speaker 2: even desks and chairs are up for auction. And not
Speaker 2: only that, he's had to find like shit for his
Speaker 2: employees to do because business has slowed to like a
Speaker 2: fucking halt. Some people he moved over to like his
Speaker 2: online marketplace or they saw all kinds of crap, and
Speaker 2: some have been like shifted to his addiction and recovery
Speaker 2: bit business like.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you go from the trails. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that bowls goosebumps. Oh yeah, you're like imagining his addiction
Speaker 1: and recovery business like.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, and then having like someone who was working
Speaker 2: on making bad pillows be like in charge of anything there, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Giving you your methods.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Man, Apparently like he's like he said,
Speaker 2: he's worried, like you know, if some employees might leave
Speaker 2: because they don't like what they're doing. Now, yeah, that
Speaker 2: kind of makes sense. He said, so far he hasn't
Speaker 2: had to fire anybody. I don't know how true that is.
Speaker 2: But this is all while dominion is suing him. Dominion
Speaker 2: voting systems is suing him because of his participation in
Speaker 2: all the election lies for one billion dollars and this
Speaker 2: other thing that happened. Recently, another court ruled in arbitration
Speaker 2: that he had to cough up five million dollars to
Speaker 2: a software engineer who won a contest called Prove Mike
Speaker 2: Lindell Wrong and win five million dollars put on by
Speaker 2: Mike Lindell, who said, I dare anyone to go through
Speaker 2: this data set and show me that there's that there's
Speaker 2: no gobbledygook malarkey going on. This software engineer proved that
Speaker 2: and said where's my five million? He didn't pay, and
Speaker 2: now the court says, yeah.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker, you have to pay. And he called the ruling frivolous.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: He's kind of in a Yeah, left on my pillow.
Speaker 4: Has anyone ever like seen one.
Speaker 1: Pillow?
Speaker 5: I'm so curious as to.
Speaker 4: Like what it's like, Like is it a regular pillow?
Speaker 5: Is it a memory foam pillow? Like I don't understand
Speaker 5: what he was selling to start with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember when when he first came on the scene,
Speaker 1: like people saying that it's more of like a marketing machine,
Speaker 1: and yeah, a pretty unremarkable pillow. Yeah, there's good and
Speaker 1: bad pillows.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just he doesn't also give me the kind
Speaker 4: of vision of someone who understands sleep like he he
Speaker 4: seems like twenty four hours a day on speed, like
Speaker 4: him and Trump are just like all right, let's do this, and.
Speaker 2: Truly like he's been open. He's like, yeah, he's just
Speaker 2: smoke crack like yeah, and I'm now I'm in recovery.
Speaker 2: So and I know a little bit about pillows.
Speaker 1: And You're like, I don't know if you're like a
Speaker 1: guy with a pushbrow mustache is the one.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, what about pillows? Like I'll ask
Speaker 2: him about like I don't know, seat cushions for like
Speaker 2: truck drivers or something like that. Right, what's good for
Speaker 2: my final spine and neck health?
Speaker 4: But I wonder what got him into the pillow game
Speaker 4: to start with, such an odd business to try and
Speaker 4: break into.
Speaker 1: I vaguely remember when we were first covering him, like
Speaker 1: his origin story had something to do with like him
Speaker 1: being up for like days at a time and like
Speaker 1: that having something to do. So he's like, so, I
Speaker 1: know pillows because I've like tried to sleep well going
Speaker 1: through with drawls or something something something along those lines.
Speaker 2: Apparently he liket, he sold up some bars that he
Speaker 2: owned and mortgaged his house to he I guess he
Speaker 2: apparently hands sewed the pillows himself in the beginning and
Speaker 2: handled all the sales with some help from his family
Speaker 2: to himself.
Speaker 1: No he didn't. Yeah, I don't know, complete bullshit.
Speaker 2: But this is where this but it's a grift because
Speaker 2: at the end of the day he was going on
Speaker 2: Fox talking about like you got fibromyalgia, you got MS,
Speaker 2: these pillows will help without any support, like scientific evidence.
Speaker 2: And so that was how like momentum started going where
Speaker 2: people are like these are like the pillows that you need,
Speaker 2: when in fact they're.
Speaker 5: Just just regular old.
Speaker 2: Pillows're just buying election denying pillows. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: you hate to see if folks, he's gone from you know,
Speaker 2: one of the one of the best we had on
Speaker 2: Fox News to now selling industrial fabric spreaders on an auction.
Speaker 1: All yeah, all right, p P for pillow rest and
Speaker 1: pillow rest and pillow. He does seem like one of
Speaker 1: these people who just was able to lie successfully for
Speaker 1: fifteen years in a row, just full breaks or full
Speaker 1: all gas no breaks on like just I lie and
Speaker 1: like keep getting richer, and it just he just wasn't
Speaker 1: able to like switch to a different gear and it
Speaker 1: just like drove over a cliff. So you really have
Speaker 1: to feel sorry for him, folks. Yeah, I'm saying here
Speaker 1: he was blinded by his own privilege. He didn't know
Speaker 1: what he was doing. He was getting away with it
Speaker 1: for so long. That's not fair, taking out a mortgage
Speaker 1: on your own house, like starting out in a fucking garage,
Speaker 1: hand creating the product like Steve Jobs start out in
Speaker 1: a garage, just like melding together the different parts for that.
Speaker 1: But like these are all bullshit stories that are in
Speaker 1: every person, like every successful company's origin story, and it's
Speaker 1: always like the truth is like they took out a
Speaker 1: loan from their dead or their dead's rich friend. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a guy I met golfing.
Speaker 2: If you're looking for a massage table, he's also selling
Speaker 2: massage tables. Were five bucks?
Speaker 5: What were those a part of? Were they no idea business.
Speaker 2: No idea, no idea? Who used them?
Speaker 1: And for what?
Speaker 5: Per Like it's just mine, but you can have it.
Speaker 5: I need five bucks?
Speaker 1: God? What could his addiction and recovery business be? Like
Speaker 1: he just seems like a person who, like in recovery,
Speaker 1: seems to fully embody the drug he was abusing, which
Speaker 1: I don't know how you pull that off necessarily. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure.
Speaker 4: Does it have a name? Does his recovery program have
Speaker 4: a name? Like I kind of need him to have
Speaker 4: every business he starts, of which I assume there's going
Speaker 4: to be many over the years, be like branded as
Speaker 4: like my blank.
Speaker 2: Like it's called the Lindell Recovery Network. It's a ridiction
Speaker 2: it's an addiction resource organization. That's how another drift where
Speaker 2: I don't think they're probably being like, here, we'll connect
Speaker 2: you with a group of businesses that we can also
Speaker 2: profit from if you're have the misfortune of coming to
Speaker 2: this website looking for help.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, are you addicted to crack? Do you need
Speaker 5: a forklift for cheap? Those are just you.
Speaker 1: We'll throw on a forklift for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Like I mean, we could do some
Speaker 2: therapy to kind of get to the root of your trauma,
Speaker 2: but I think you just need.
Speaker 1: A massage table, like work out.
Speaker 2: Some of those king you want to buy some Stanzo
Speaker 2: brand for doors, they think, but they're great. There's Stanzos, man, you.
Speaker 1: Gotta take them all. You gotta take all tables. Sorry,
Speaker 1: there's no deal. The deals be chearing on mine, just
Speaker 1: fucking you all right, big like kind of embarrassing feats
Speaker 1: of masculinity, of like insecure masculinity. Seem to be having
Speaker 1: a real moment right now, just generally, like with Elon
Speaker 1: Musk and Mark Zuckerberg getting most of the attention with
Speaker 1: their like I'll beat you up. No, I'll beat you
Speaker 1: up my mom, sois you up? So let's compare penises?
Speaker 1: Did his mom sign off on the comparing penises thing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Apparently it was her idea, why don't you show how
Speaker 1: big your penis is? Elon?
Speaker 2: Just like we said, don't fight, just pull your penis out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 4: He always solve your her husband that Yeah, and we
Speaker 4: wouldn't have to deal with Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's also it's bleeding its way over into politics
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'd argue that that's it's been like this
Speaker 2: since Trump took over the party, where like you know,
Speaker 2: Josh Holly, we saw him be.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, there's my book about being a man.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like right now, right we saw we talked
Speaker 2: about Rfk junior looking like he was pumping weight in
Speaker 2: the fucking prison yard and like how I was like,
Speaker 2: whoa shit, rfk's.
Speaker 1: Fucking ripped FK.
Speaker 2: And then we also there's Governor a Asa Hutchinson who's
Speaker 2: also running. He recently just casually bragged He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm seventy two, but I still play full court basketball.
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, all right, Like have you seen them all?
Speaker 2: He's actually like really good. No, I want to dude,
Speaker 2: I wish I could play Asa Hutchinson. I would twist
Speaker 2: his ass up so bad. And I'm not even that
Speaker 2: good at basketball, but I know he is. He is
Speaker 2: not that quick. So there's Vivid Ramaswami, who is like
Speaker 2: the thirty seven year old GOP guy running. He's like
Speaker 2: been he's been making it his thing that he's like, so.
Speaker 1: I'm so good at tennis. I can beat former collegiate
Speaker 1: tennis players.
Speaker 2: He recently described his He even had to say this,
Speaker 2: put this quote on wax. He said, I'm probably about
Speaker 2: the level of somebody who was I don't know if
Speaker 2: they were a Division one college tennis player, but they
Speaker 2: were like maybe five to ten years out. Like seriously,
Speaker 2: he's saying that like on his like you know, stump
Speaker 2: stops as he's running for president.
Speaker 1: And the whole platform. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we have Miami mayor Francis Suarez is
Speaker 2: also running. He's the latest to talk up ball Sack
Speaker 2: by bragging about how he crushed a five k race.
Speaker 2: He said, name another presidential candidate who can play sixth
Speaker 2: in a five k with a twenty four and a
Speaker 2: half minute run time go, which led a lot of
Speaker 2: avid runners to do a bit of quick maths on
Speaker 2: Twitter point out he was basically doing about an eight
Speaker 2: minute mile time, like, which is good.
Speaker 1: That would be really good for me.
Speaker 5: That'd be good for me, but like I'm not bragging
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also would for president on what people.
Speaker 4: Do after Thanksgiving? Like, yes, Thanksgiving exactly.
Speaker 2: Okay, you kept it up for for three miles, but
Speaker 2: then a lot of people said, you actually placed eighty
Speaker 2: seventh overall, and you placed sixth in the forty five
Speaker 2: to forty nine age group.
Speaker 1: Specifically there were ten people in that age.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then other people were like Pete Buddha Judge
Speaker 2: actually run a rent up a half marathon at this
Speaker 2: Like people started climbing back in all kinds of ways
Speaker 2: and then run of Ramaswami staffers even hopped in to
Speaker 2: brag about their boss's running prowess, which then led Suarez
Speaker 2: to challenging Ramaswami to a fucking jogging duel.
Speaker 5: Jogging.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so, this is which is all to say,
Speaker 2: we are firmly like in this era where the projection
Speaker 2: of power is like more important than actually knowing what
Speaker 2: the fuck you were doing as a legislator, and whether
Speaker 2: it's like shooting machine guns in your campaign ads or
Speaker 2: challenging other candidates like a push up contest. I know
Speaker 2: Biden was thinking, like, let's do some push ups.
Speaker 1: Trump.
Speaker 2: It's all just a proverbial, you know, dick mession contest.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of it. Why we have
Speaker 1: such like manly figures at the head of both parties
Speaker 1: Biden and Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, health, which which is what most people are
Speaker 2: saying that like, this is probably because the fact that
Speaker 2: both parties aren't thrilled in the fact that their front
Speaker 2: runners are far from their prime in terms of physical fitness.
Speaker 2: That now this is becoming the new currency, especially in
Speaker 2: the GOP, to be like okay, yeah, I'm obviously younger,
Speaker 2: but like check out my sick forehand on the tennis court,
Speaker 2: like what Yeah, also.
Speaker 4: Like bragging about the things you do that are like
Speaker 4: physically like I think, be healthy, do things you want
Speaker 4: to do. But I'm like, how much time of day
Speaker 4: are you doing politics? And how much time a day
Speaker 4: are you doing exercise? Like that's I'm just like I
Speaker 4: don't know. Like you look at RFK and I'm like,
Speaker 4: good for him whatever, he's in good shape, but I'm like,
Speaker 4: you're old.
Speaker 5: How much time did it take to get that ripped?
Speaker 5: And like seventeen hours a day anything else with that time?
Speaker 4: I don't trust it. I mean in a million reasons,
Speaker 4: I don't trust him. But like right, right, right, it's
Speaker 4: just such an odd thing to like bring into that.
Speaker 4: I mean we know why because like masculinity is of
Speaker 4: course the only quote unquote way to be powerful. But
Speaker 4: course it seems so odd to not ever consider political
Speaker 4: prowess as something that any of them should brag about.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: Completely, it's just like how what's your mile pace in
Speaker 1: a five k?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: And it's not even like I get eight minutes is nothing?
Speaker 2: Isn't this is great? But it's not like this guy
Speaker 2: was like he's like I kept a six and a
Speaker 2: half minute mile time up for three at miles. Then
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, okay, maybe I don't know why. It
Speaker 2: just reminded me of like my mile time in high
Speaker 2: school when I hated to run the mile and I
Speaker 2: was like the best I ever did was like seven minutes.
Speaker 2: So I'll hold on to my best performance at sixteen
Speaker 2: years old, y and compare that to a forty five
Speaker 2: year old adult. Yeah, yeah, I'm better.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, first of all, like we've seen
Speaker 1: this well, we've seen this with like the liver King
Speaker 1: and like people online who are just selling an image
Speaker 1: of steroid enhanced image and then claiming that it's from
Speaker 1: like eating naturally. But like we've also seen it with
Speaker 1: like just how horny Trump is for like big muscular arms,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, just always loves to reference.
Speaker 2: I'm curious, like if there was a GOP candidate who
Speaker 2: like just started wearing sleeveless shirts and was like pretty jacked,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, what that would do to the polling?
Speaker 1: Like and it would immediately make him as vice presidential people,
Speaker 1: I know That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm just curious because no one is like necessarily
Speaker 2: like an overtly like Giga Chad super ask dude, who's
Speaker 2: like in the race?
Speaker 1: And I feel, are you assuming that Desanta is gonna
Speaker 1: drop out? Did I see that?
Speaker 2: What I'm actually presuming is he's about to tear those
Speaker 2: sleeves off at his next press conference. He's like, it's
Speaker 2: getting a little hot in here, half, folks. It just
Speaker 2: has like the stringy ast arms. But we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Shorts with like a long sleeved shirt on the beach.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we've seen him in a short sleeve shirt
Speaker 4: with a vest over it.
Speaker 5: Though.
Speaker 4: I mean he's yeah, he's shown us what he's got.
Speaker 4: It's under those white boots. He's all calves.
Speaker 1: He's all calves. Yeah, he's got legs like Dikon radishes.
Speaker 1: I don't really even know what that means.
Speaker 2: That's the thing we say in Japanese like got is like,
Speaker 2: have you seen a Dikon raddish.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna here, I'll play it or not play it.
Speaker 1: This is a Dikon Raddish. Oh yeah, just chubby little Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got like a una calf. You call that a
Speaker 1: dicon anyway.
Speaker 2: So I'm bringing my own cold surely toxic phrases to
Speaker 2: this show that you can spread around with your friends.
Speaker 1: But this is a way we've talked about how we
Speaker 1: like see different ways that the eighties are coming back with.
Speaker 1: Like the last time that fascism was this openly embraced
Speaker 1: in the United States, we were of course like obsessed
Speaker 1: with like bodybuilders became our movie stars. Cocaine was everywhere,
Speaker 1: and those have been two of the stories in the past.
Speaker 1: I think week that like cocaine is super popular again,
Speaker 1: and now like even politicians feel the need to be
Speaker 1: like jacked. I know, like someone be like I was
Speaker 1: actually an envoy for the un to the talent that
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, see.
Speaker 2: Those tri SEPs, because that's trying to do The tries
Speaker 2: are for the guys. People know that that's where the
Speaker 2: respect comes from when.
Speaker 1: They see that horseshoe try sep. Bro it's over. It's
Speaker 1: over for Trump. All right, let's take another quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk about the ORB. I'm
Speaker 1: into this ORB, you guys, And we're back. And did
Speaker 1: we talk about the ORB yesterday's episode? I feel like
Speaker 1: so Miles and I were in Las Vegas over the weekend.
Speaker 4: For the first time as an adult, like a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks ago, did you see the Yes, But it
Speaker 4: wasn't kind of like as up and running as it
Speaker 4: is now.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: I was there in May, so it wasn't like turned
Speaker 5: on it. I was turned on seeing the ORB, but
Speaker 5: like it wasn't turned on.
Speaker 1: I was kind of turned on seeing the ORB. I
Speaker 1: have to say, like I was when so when it
Speaker 1: was insight on the horizon or like in you know,
Speaker 1: like insight line of where we were in the city.
Speaker 1: I looking at it when we weren't, I was showing
Speaker 1: miles pictures of it from like on my phone. I
Speaker 1: was like, yoh, but look at this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, from earlier when we looked at the cards,
Speaker 2: like yeah, but this is that picture of it.
Speaker 1: This is a picture of it. This is a video.
Speaker 1: You can kind of see that.
Speaker 2: And I remember, I think when you're leaving the Thomas
Speaker 2: and Maxtter's like Jack, Blude, look the ORB and you're
Speaker 2: like where.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was so excited because it is I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just makes the Vegas Skyliner. I'm assuming it's going
Speaker 1: to show up in a lot of other places, but
Speaker 1: it makes everything around you look photoshopped.
Speaker 2: There what is the orb even because like I've just
Speaker 2: all I know of it was like that it was
Speaker 2: an LED display that's just a gigantic like hemispherical thing.
Speaker 1: But what yeah, yeah, so it's not yet, but it's
Speaker 1: coming and it's going to be. It's going to be
Speaker 1: a concert venue where like uh, you know, so you
Speaker 1: Too is on on slate to like be the first
Speaker 1: show and do like a big show that involves Bono
Speaker 1: holding a handheld camera up to his face and like
Speaker 1: then the whole city of Las Vegas needs to see it.
Speaker 1: The guy loves to be like look how big my
Speaker 1: fucking face is? You got? Or but yeah, so they
Speaker 1: have that planned. They also have they're working with Darren
Speaker 1: Aronofsky to like show I think one of his movies
Speaker 1: you imagine as the Whale.
Speaker 7: But oh check out Requiem for a Dream in the Night,
Speaker 7: which seems like the sort of thing is gonna make
Speaker 7: James Cameron so jealous.
Speaker 4: But like what like when you say, like show a
Speaker 4: movie like on the outside or on the inside, like
Speaker 4: if you're just like driving through Las Vegas or you're
Speaker 4: gonna be like, oh cool Black Swan, like is it right?
Speaker 1: Like well, being that that is one of the objections people.
Speaker 1: That is one of the objections people have is that
Speaker 1: like it is so strange looking like you there's you know,
Speaker 1: you're looking at a skyline, hazy buildings, and then somebody
Speaker 1: has photoshopped this like high definition basketball just sitting there
Speaker 1: like slowly spinning, like you could just reach out and
Speaker 1: pick it up, like with.
Speaker 8: The eyeball was yeah, eyeball was crazy, freaky, was really cool.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's but people are objecting that that's
Speaker 1: like a huge distraction to drivers, like who are already
Speaker 1: distracted also right on this trip.
Speaker 4: I imagine that a lot of people treat Las Vegas
Speaker 4: the way I did for my first visit as an adult,
Speaker 4: which is I was on drugs the whole time. Like
Speaker 4: I was just popping at a balls and sipping on
Speaker 4: wine and had my friends and I went to go
Speaker 4: see Rod Stewart for my thirty ninth birth day.
Speaker 5: And it was the best thing I've ever done. It
Speaker 5: was so much fun.
Speaker 1: He still got it.
Speaker 4: He's still got it. He's out there, he's performing, he's dancing.
Speaker 4: He needs a lot of breaks, but he's doing it.
Speaker 4: But like I was already seconds, He's like I'm gonna
Speaker 4: sit down, but he's still dancing. He still hits a
Speaker 4: lot of the notes. But like, just the colors and
Speaker 4: the lights of everything else in Las Vegas was overwhelming
Speaker 4: to my gummies in like filled. I was like, oh no,
Speaker 4: I'm overwhelmed in every way that I could possibly be.
Speaker 5: And I don't know.
Speaker 4: If I was stoned and saw the ORB, I think
Speaker 4: I'd explode off this planet.
Speaker 5: I just want to be able to deal with anything anymore.
Speaker 1: Because there's like a jike the inside of it in
Speaker 1: the venue will also just be a big screen, right
Speaker 1: like sixteen LED sixteen thousand LED lights screen. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that which wraps over and around much of
Speaker 1: the audience that's augment the constant experience with trippy animations
Speaker 1: or close ups of the performance.
Speaker 2: No, no, they feel like sixteen K as in four
Speaker 2: times four K, likes like there's four K the resolution,
Speaker 2: there's eight K, and then there's fucking sixteen K because
Speaker 2: that gigantic and well high definition that sh it's going
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the thing. It's just the highest definition
Speaker 1: giant thing that you've ever seen. Seems to be like
Speaker 1: what its trick is.
Speaker 5: But I don't like it. I'll say, I don't like it.
Speaker 2: And I do you know I want to have Yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to have the drug freakouts in there though,
Speaker 2: just to just experience that when it's.
Speaker 1: Like and now it's turned into a t rex mouth
Speaker 1: and I'm like, d no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: But at least I want to go through that just
Speaker 2: so I can have that experience and then I'll run
Speaker 2: out into the street screaming.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I didn't even like seeing the Luxore. I was like,
Speaker 5: are we in Egypt?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 5: What's happening? Like it's overwhelmed, too confused the whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is really disoriented. It's people should go
Speaker 1: at some point before it is no longer a thing
Speaker 1: that is possible, or, as Miles suggested, maybe it is
Speaker 1: just the future that we're all going to be living
Speaker 1: in where you like walk from one building to another
Speaker 1: inside air conditioned corridor as well, the O side is
Speaker 1: completely uninhabitable.
Speaker 2: That sounds right, And you need a sixteen K definite
Speaker 2: definition ORB screen above you to recreate the sky. So
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm outside, but.
Speaker 1: I feel like every city is going to have one
Speaker 1: of these within like twenty years, Like do you think so?
Speaker 2: You think the or the sphere. The ORB is the
Speaker 2: way of the future.
Speaker 1: I think. So I think I think like this is
Speaker 1: going to be the first little piece of like blade
Speaker 1: Runner technology that's going to make everything around us seem
Speaker 1: super fucking surreal and like yeah, just like mess with
Speaker 1: your depth perception and like yeah, right, right, right, right, Well,
Speaker 1: I welcome the ORB.
Speaker 4: I mean, we're gonna have to. I don't want to
Speaker 4: say anything bad about the ORB now, right.
Speaker 1: We should have known when when Trump went to Saudi
Speaker 1: Arabia and they gave him that ORB. Yeah, we're living
Speaker 1: in the ORB the period of the orb Our era.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in our ORB era. Oh well, invest in orbs, folks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ORB is actually brought to you by James Dolan,
Speaker 1: the owner inheritor of the Knicks and the Madison Square Garden. Yeah. Fortune,
Speaker 1: So you know what, one of our favorite people, one
Speaker 1: of our favorite US singers on this Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean we talk all the time about how hip
Speaker 2: hop wa came out of New York, but I argue
Speaker 2: that James Dolan's contribution to music are probably the biggest
Speaker 2: contributions to music New York has ever made.
Speaker 1: You don't really see him quite yet, but they're they're
Speaker 1: come yeah and yeah, oh man, they probably are like
Speaker 1: every every billionaire will have a band with just like
Speaker 1: embarrassed looking like the Saints musitions.
Speaker 2: Wait, Jack, what's the over under on JD in the
Speaker 2: straight shot James Dolan's band being like one of the
Speaker 2: first bands to perform there or have a fucking residency
Speaker 2: at the ORB, because they're definitely opening for you if
Speaker 2: he's because like he's forced people at Madison Square Garden
Speaker 2: if they want to do a show there, that his
Speaker 2: band will open for this show.
Speaker 1: So I didn't force anyone. The Eagles wanted him to
Speaker 1: open for them because they respect him as a musician.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, allegedly, So now I can see how he'll
Speaker 2: be like, oh yeah, I mean like you want in
Speaker 2: the or JD in the street shot, we're opening?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that? But it's like privately traded like
Speaker 1: it they spun it off from their company. It's its
Speaker 1: own thing. Now. It's very weird and surreal and all
Speaker 1: feels like it's out of a like sci fi novel
Speaker 1: that hasn't like really been thought through very much, just
Speaker 1: like a very half baked idea. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe like some orbs or something, and they like look
Speaker 1: like they're right there, but they're not.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And then there's concerts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's concerts and Darren Aronofski films. I
Speaker 1: feel like James Cameron has to be so jealous of this,
Speaker 1: Like this first feels like.
Speaker 2: It's he's probably sitting on the ORB for sure, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, He's like, oh, that's you think
Speaker 2: that's novel. I actually saw Tie Tannic with my own eyes,
Speaker 2: you know, like he's like, fuck all fuck out of
Speaker 2: here with this ORB stuff.
Speaker 1: But then SAME's I want Alvatar to be played on
Speaker 1: the ORB. Yeah, all right? Should we talk about Barbenheimer? Please?
Speaker 1: Are you guys, what do you have plans for seeing
Speaker 1: these films that you've like laid out as of yet
Speaker 1: or no? But I will see them. I will see
Speaker 1: both of them in theaters. I don't feel the need
Speaker 1: to turn it into an endurance event. But she is
Speaker 1: reporting that more than twenty thousand fans will be catching
Speaker 1: a double feature of both movies on July twenty second.
Speaker 1: I'm only followed by an immediate cat skam.
Speaker 4: I mean, I like, I don't like being look aside
Speaker 4: from being asleep lying down, there's nothing I want to
Speaker 4: do for five straight hours? Like it just yeah, are
Speaker 4: they taking a break? Like I want to know what
Speaker 4: showings these people are seeing. Are they taking like an
Speaker 4: hour to like go outside and like refocus their eyes,
Speaker 4: Like I leave a movie theater and I'm like I
Speaker 4: got to just go back into the dark for a while.
Speaker 2: Right, do you get a discount even or they're just
Speaker 2: saying they know that people have been buying, like they
Speaker 2: can just tell people people the same Okay, I thought
Speaker 2: AMC is also like, hey, you want to really kind
Speaker 2: of fuck yourself up. We're selling double features to Barbenheimer hopp.
Speaker 1: I mean the Internet's doing that for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like people have created like amazing movie posters Barbenheimer
Speaker 1: with there's this one that will look off to on
Speaker 1: the footnotes. That's really cool.
Speaker 4: I saw someone refer to it as Boppenheimer, which I
Speaker 4: think I prefer. Boppenheimer is fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but are we giving enough respect to the barb
Speaker 2: part of it?
Speaker 4: By I think the fact that like the B is
Speaker 4: the iconic like Barbie letter, Like I'm reading it Boppenheimer
Speaker 4: all in Barbie font.
Speaker 1: I like Boppenheimer better too, and also the better, like
Speaker 1: it feels more fun. Barbie is kind of bopping around
Speaker 1: out there, so it kind of feels feels like it
Speaker 1: evokes Barbie even more than Barbenheim.
Speaker 2: So we'll go for Boppenheimer from here on out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the internet is settled on Barbenheimer because you
Speaker 1: can create a T shirt that has split directly down
Speaker 1: the middle and has Barbie on like just on one
Speaker 1: side and Enheimer on the other. So the merch cells itself, folks,
Speaker 1: it really does truly.
Speaker 4: Now call me when they make a doll out of
Speaker 4: Silly and Murphy, I never know how to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we found out it was killing and it really
Speaker 1: fucked me up. I've been wrong all along, makes him
Speaker 1: seem more sinister.
Speaker 5: Yes, it really does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, but yeah, so totally different. Obviously. The only
Speaker 1: thing they haven't common is the release date. And so
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that people I don't know, I've
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. People Like the early reviews for
Speaker 1: Barbie are coming out, like the word of mouth reviews,
Speaker 1: and they're like it's a blast and it's like really fun.
Speaker 5: You would think that Oppenheimer would be the blast.
Speaker 1: I am, I folks, all right, we'll end the episode there.
Speaker 1: So early reviews this is from something like talking about
Speaker 1: the first Barbie screening. Early reviews called the film bombastic
Speaker 1: and a triumph and praise the craftsmanship of the costume
Speaker 1: and set design, as well as the nuanced commentary of
Speaker 1: the script that displays the highs and lows of the
Speaker 1: existentialism of Barbie and Ken's lives. So like that confirms
Speaker 1: to me, like if there are existential questions being asked,
Speaker 1: I do think people in setting up this dichotomy, are
Speaker 1: you know, they're overestimating how much Barbie is going to
Speaker 1: be just a straight shot of like pixie stick sugar,
Speaker 1: you know, like they just think it's going to be
Speaker 1: pure pink glitter. And I just don't think Greta Gerwig
Speaker 1: and you know, Noah Bomback co wrote it with her,
Speaker 1: Like that doesn't feel like they're vibe like he's never
Speaker 1: been a good time at the movies. But I feel like,
Speaker 1: and so I'm sure there's gonna I'm sure on its
Speaker 1: own maybe people would be like, yeah, but it's like
Speaker 1: really fun and stuff. But people who like see Oppenheimer
Speaker 1: and then Barbie are gonna be like, oh, this is awesome.
Speaker 1: Asks like dark that might fuck you up. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe you have to chase it with like Oppenheimer, like
Speaker 1: you're like, fuck it, yeah, and then you're like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: this is where because I'd imagine you watch Oppenheimer and
Speaker 1: you're like, what did he open the door to?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you go to like Barbie when you're
Speaker 2: like and you still have that in the back of
Speaker 2: your mind, You're like, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like what is the existence of being a
Speaker 4: woman or a man in our culture? Like I do
Speaker 4: feel like cretick Away is gonna pose some pretty heavy
Speaker 4: questions I think with Barbie and do you guys think
Speaker 4: there's an ideal order would you go one? If if
Speaker 4: you had to see both of them in a double feature,
Speaker 4: which which way would you do it?
Speaker 2: I feel like most people say chase Barbie. You're chasing
Speaker 2: Oppenheimer with Barbie, because that's at least less on its face.
Speaker 1: About the dawn of atomic weapons.
Speaker 2: So, but I don't know, pardon I've always said, like,
Speaker 2: let's just go all in, like just watch Barbie, get
Speaker 2: your mind ready for the three hour what like just
Speaker 2: mind fuck that Oppenheimer could be. So I'm saying personally,
Speaker 2: I would Chase Barbie with Oppenheimer.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but you do.
Speaker 5: Barbie than Oppenheimer.
Speaker 4: I think I would do this also, like I'm personally
Speaker 4: more interested in the Barbie movie, so I would want
Speaker 4: to be fresh for that one.
Speaker 5: And like, I don't know, like I think I'm gonna
Speaker 5: like get Oppenheimer, like even if I'm like half.
Speaker 2: Paying at right right, right, yeah, yeah, filmmaker, he's already out.
Speaker 2: There's no CG in this film, Like we.
Speaker 1: Know, dude, I always do it, and I know you're
Speaker 1: really proud, proud that you made a mushroom cloud ornanically
Speaker 1: like that without.
Speaker 4: Care.
Speaker 2: The other thing, the only thing that like got me
Speaker 2: just because of my like I don't know, I just
Speaker 2: I love like the movie making kind of magic kind
Speaker 2: of stuff.
Speaker 1: Was someone showed the IMAX print of Oppenheimer the three hours.
Speaker 5: Oh I saw that.
Speaker 2: It's thirty hundred pounds I think eleven miles.
Speaker 1: Long or something like that. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's something like that's the length of Manhattan. And yeah,
Speaker 2: that's great marketing. So yeah, and then just be like
Speaker 2: and that translates into three hours of your day. The
Speaker 2: only thing is I just don't think physically I'm capable
Speaker 2: of actually doing.
Speaker 1: A double feature, Like, yeah, I don't think I can, as.
Speaker 2: Much as I say that, Like, I don't even know
Speaker 2: if I could do it like consecutive days, like maybe
Speaker 2: a Friday and then a Sunday, or maybe just one
Speaker 2: week than the next, cause I'm it's been a while
Speaker 2: since I've even watched movies that close to each other.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I also can't go like five hours without talking.
Speaker 4: I'd be like, I want to talk to someone Like Also,
Speaker 4: that's the thing is like after I think either of
Speaker 4: those movies, the point is you want to talk about them, Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: after I see Barbie, I want to like go to
Speaker 4: the bar with my friends and like spend two hours
Speaker 4: talking about the movie, and I think Appenheimer, I'll probably
Speaker 4: have something to say after it.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's a tall order.
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise made the the Boppenheimer thing official because he
Speaker 1: did his like I love movies, God damn it. How
Speaker 1: fucking greater are movies? Everyone? Thing? He tweeted out, this
Speaker 1: summer is full of amazing movies to see in theaters.
Speaker 1: Congratulations Harrison Ford on forty years of Indy. I love
Speaker 1: a double feature and it doesn't get more explosive or
Speaker 1: more pink than one with Oppenheimer and Barbie and then
Speaker 1: like tweeted out a picture of him and I don't
Speaker 1: know who that is next to him, maybe Christopher macquarie
Speaker 1: holding up the tickets to prove like we've done it,
Speaker 1: We're gonna really do this damn thing. And then Margot
Speaker 1: Robbie and Greta Gerwig did the same thing with like
Speaker 1: standing in front of the Oppenheimer thing poster with just
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, smiles on their face, like ye, like
Speaker 1: we're Tom Cruise Himer. So fun. So the theory because
Speaker 1: I have wondered this, I've been like, why did they
Speaker 1: do this?
Speaker 2: Like it's like Chris Nolan's pissed something that came out
Speaker 2: today that said like he's been telling people that he's
Speaker 2: not happy with the sharing the same release.
Speaker 1: So this is his first movie that's not with Warner Brothers.
Speaker 1: His whole career has been with Warner Brothers. There was
Speaker 1: the tenant thing where you know it didn't it came
Speaker 1: out during the pandemic. He insisted like it had to
Speaker 1: come out in theaters. They did that, and like nobody
Speaker 1: felt comfortable going to movie theaters really and so like
Speaker 1: it just did bad. And then they released a bunch
Speaker 1: of movies simultaneously on HBO Max and he like shit
Speaker 1: all over them and said, some of our industries biggest
Speaker 1: filmmakers and most important movie stars went to bed the
Speaker 1: night before thinking they were working for the greatest movie
Speaker 1: studio and woke up to find out they were working
Speaker 1: for the worst streaming service. Oh, shots fired. Get the
Speaker 1: worst streaming service. Feels like a little petulant.
Speaker 5: Like they're all jocking for first place at all times.
Speaker 1: Right, I like you're like, whoa, whoa, let's not come
Speaker 1: at HBO, Matt.
Speaker 8: We leave Zaslava alone where we're so then he took
Speaker 8: this film over to Universal and people are speculating that
Speaker 8: because Barbie is Warner Brothers and like mid July is
Speaker 8: known as like when Christopher Nolan movies come out and
Speaker 8: everybody just clears the fuck out and doesn't release anything
Speaker 8: around then, And Warner Brothers was like, we've got a
Speaker 8: we got a winner here with this Barbie movie, and
Speaker 8: fuck you, Christopher Nolan is the working theory.
Speaker 1: Ah, so yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a verbial Adam was split, so to speak, the
Speaker 2: tenant really yeah, and here we are huh huh interesting.
Speaker 1: Publicly, he's saying someone was like, I told my theory
Speaker 1: that Barbenheimer was born through the complex history he has
Speaker 1: with Warner Brothers, and he said, now you know, I
Speaker 1: must now you must know. I'm not going to answer
Speaker 1: that question, he said, with a chuckle, only to say,
Speaker 1: those who care about the theatrical experience, we've been longing
Speaker 1: for a crowded marketplaces with a lot of different movies.
Speaker 1: That's what theaters have now. And those of us who
Speaker 1: care about movies are thrilled about that. That statement was
Speaker 1: written by Tom Cruise, and then accordingly it was no,
Speaker 1: but it just feels like it. It feels like he
Speaker 1: took that directly Tom Cruise, reading from a Tom Cruise quote.
Speaker 1: But then, like sources familiar with the matter said, Nolan
Speaker 1: wasn't nearly as diplomatic in a stance behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: They told an insider he was upset that Warner Brothers
Speaker 1: dated Barbie the same weekend as Oppenheimer, especially since mid
Speaker 1: July has been known in the movie business as no weekend.
Speaker 1: It's my weekend. Barbie shut up.
Speaker 5: Like a twenty five year old girl having a birthday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my Weekend. Yeah, it's like that Kim Kardashian thing.
Speaker 2: You took my wedding country and my wedding singer, Like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, full shut up. And now I hope
Speaker 2: Barbie puts a smack on Yeah me too, Yeah go cry.
Speaker 2: I think it's funny too, because like I used to
Speaker 2: be like a former like Nolan fuck boy, who was like, yo, dude,
Speaker 2: he doesn't you see g dude is sick of shit
Speaker 2: ever and then like after a while, like it just
Speaker 2: really worth it on me, and I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: like I haven't even seen the last few films that
Speaker 2: he's made. You No, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: Think about that word. It's the same ford and backwards,
Speaker 1: the fucking palindrome. What the fuck? All right now I'm
Speaker 1: back dude. This guy is fucking genius.
Speaker 5: Man, Wait, don't I tell you about a website called kayak.
Speaker 1: Who a man a plan a canal? Panama? Damn go
Speaker 1: hang a saloon? That's my fat? Is that?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Is that haagna? Hog is the longest palidrome that I'm.
Speaker 5: Wow, it's a pretty good one.
Speaker 1: It has to be a palindrome measuring contest. If fucking
Speaker 1: Nolan just knew that palindrome, that's what he would have called.
Speaker 1: The freaking movie's been a success. We would be in
Speaker 1: this matter.
Speaker 4: I'd buy a ticket to see that movie with COVID
Speaker 4: going on, wait, what what is it again?
Speaker 1: I'm a sold what is it? Go hang a salami?
Speaker 1: I'm a lasagna hog.
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: What would that film be about? If he really went there?
Speaker 1: It's about I think you should have been the exact time.
Speaker 1: Secret code word for the mission is go hang a salami.
Speaker 1: I'm alda zagna hug. But it's about often completely. Yeah, amazing, Well, Allison,
Speaker 1: it's been such a pleasure having you on the daily Zeitchgist.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 4: I am on Instagram and Twitter still allegedly at Alison
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I love having video games described to me. I
Speaker 1: don't play them, but I love having Yeah described to me.
Speaker 1: There's something like really nice about that. Or yeah, like
Speaker 1: having a movie plot, like even if it's ruined, I
Speaker 1: don't give a shit if I watch Yeah, I'll forget
Speaker 1: or I'll enjoy it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I don't you know, I just like information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And is there a work of media that
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying?
Speaker 4: A Twitter and Instagram account that I'm obsessed with called
Speaker 4: the share Zone.
Speaker 5: Are we familiar with to share zone.
Speaker 4: I've never related more to any human or entity the
Speaker 4: way I relate to what this social media account does.
Speaker 5: It's like folk. It's like art that someone makes that's
Speaker 5: like very like skeleton forward and uh, and then there's
Speaker 5: writing over it and it's always pretty. It's pretty like
Speaker 5: pro union and anti doing anything. And the one that
Speaker 5: I saw today that just made me be like, I
Speaker 5: have to talk about this says I'm pretty sure all
Speaker 5: I need to fix my life is a cool sword,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, with all the skulls, Yeah, with all the skulls,
Speaker 4: and like a lot of like a lot of it
Speaker 4: is like steal from work. Who cares? It's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's great. I love that message. It's really fun. It
Speaker 4: really just genuinely makes me laugh every time I see any.
Speaker 5: Of the posts. Yeah, yeah, highly recommend a great follow.
Speaker 1: There you go, Miles, Where can people find you as
Speaker 1: their working media you've been enjoying? There is another that says,
Speaker 1: do you want me to quit fucking everything up? Me too, bitch.
Speaker 5: I am very apologetic. I'm like self deprecating.
Speaker 1: I think stupid.
Speaker 2: Find me at Miles of Gray wherever they got at symbols.
Speaker 2: That's including threads where I'm actually slightly more engaged there
Speaker 2: as I talked to people I went to high school
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 2: It's like an old tweet that I saw Andrew Tea like,
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Speaker 2: looks like a like a brontosaurus like looking longingly out
Speaker 2: of a window of a cars that's driving and says
Speaker 2: taking my dog for a nice drive today. The image
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2: Shout out to shout out to the brontosaurse brontosaur.
Speaker 1: Some tweets I've been enjoying. Cathbarbadoro tweeted kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Helen Ryan Gosling's Ken we have the positive version of
Speaker 1: a method actor becoming the joker. Every pr quote from
Speaker 1: him is incomprehensible. He went to method for Barbie and
Speaker 1: now his brain doesn't work. People like that is the thing.
Speaker 1: The initial response to the movie is like, he's fucking
Speaker 1: incredible in this one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't wait.
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Speaker 2: I was I think we did a song off of
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Speaker 1: It's featuring Injury Reserve.
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