WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Angry Birds 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:03.400 The following. 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.400 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.160 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.200 Cowboys. 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:17.520 This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:18.880 World Head Course at. 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:19.759 The Star in Frisco. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:30.240 Seconds dot tits the touchdown, and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:35.080 Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.239 It's a Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by a 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:45.160 Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas. 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.400 And the WBC Mortgage Studios. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.080 Welcome in, everybody, as we've got the full cast of 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.720 crew ready to rock here over the next forty five minutes. 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:57.520 Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah standback, Chris. 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.920 Beamer in the back of Kyle Yeomans. Isaiah, how was 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:00.640 trip good? 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.040 Trip was good? Man, Yeah, it was efficient and got 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:04.720 some work in. Now I'm back with my squad. 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.440 I think you said the most yeah I saw you saw. 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:11.400 You said the most overrated or underrated. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.280 Team in the NFL was the Saints. Yeah they Yeah, 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.480 they were. Obviously we spoke about them last week. We 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.480 felt relatively good about the Dallas Cowboys chances going into 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.560 that game, uh, barring the fact that they can get 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.800 to the quarterback right, which did not happen. And then 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.440 we also felt as if you know, obviously we did 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.400 this time last week. Literally QB Vision sat up there 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.440 and talked about how simplistic their defense was. But even 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.920 though it was super simplistic, Dallas didn't seemly take advantage. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:45.120 So that goes to show you, you know, having a 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.480 game plan and executing and game plan are two different things. 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.160 They're not that they were not a challenging team in 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.640 terms of their defense, but they showed up and put 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.720 out a better performance than the Cowboys, and they walked away. 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.640 With w Everyone's got a plan until they get punched 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:58.640 in the mouth. 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.520 And then punched it in and again and then again 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.200 and again and then four more times. Yeah before you 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.640 swing back six times? Yeah, first first six swings. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.399 All that was last week. Guys, We're on to another week. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.600 Turn We're turning the page to an angry team. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:19.040 Yeah, with the new defensive COORDINATORRDS. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:25.560 Hell yeah, yeah, maybe that's the title. Yeah, early, I'll 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.359 write it down. Let's go and get the title and 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.160 description ready to rock. They will be, they will be. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.400 Let's get into some news and notes. Patrick No c. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.480 Walker, Cowboys got to be pissed to all right. So 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:42.760 injury report, Yeah, injury report came out yesterday. Not not 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.120 necessarily ideal. First, we'll lead with the fact that Mozzie 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.800 Smith left practice during the open portion, which was within 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:50.680 the first fifteen minutes. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.760 What he did not return run that. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:59.480 Mis Smith, my miz yeah, yeah my Smith fifty eight, Yeah, yeah, 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.840 my man. He left practice yesterday with a little bit 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:09.240 of a back issue. Missie Smith left practicees today with 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.080 a back issue. He did not return to practice. So 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.200 that is absolutely something to watch in a situation where 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:20.360 Jordan Phillips broke I broke my back, Mike Iron Michael 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.520 was at the game, Yes he was on a Sunday, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.720 but something to watch in and of itself, but especially 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.040 when you consider that the Cowboys move Jordan Phillips to IR, 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:29.919 he'll miss. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.320 At a minimum of four games. 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.840 You re signed, or I should say, you poach Carlos 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:38.160 Watkins from the Commanders, So it's the return for Carlos Watkins. 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.480 But all of that is to say that they're defensive 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.080 tackle issues going on right now leading into the Ravens game. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:46.960 So we'll see if Mozzie Smith can do any work 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.720 on today, being Thursday. Let's see Brandon Cook's rest to day. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.120 Trayvon Diggs, he was a headline along with Ceedee Lamb. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.440 They both did not participate in practice yesterday with a 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.400 foot and an ankle respectively. Digs with the foot, Lamb 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.880 with the ankle. I asked around and there's no concern 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:03.800 on either one of them. 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.520 So yeah, there's nothing to get concerned about unless it's 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:07.480 a Saturday injury right. 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.160 Treat it like a like a veteran rest day. But 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.840 per NFL rules, if it is injury related, and even 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.599 the slightest instance, you have to list it as such. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.159 But I'm told there's no concern there. So everybody step 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.000 away from the panic button when it comes to that. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.599 And while you're stepping away from the panic button, stepped 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:30.159 toward the green light. Because Jake Ferguson returned to practice yesterday, 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.400 absolut freaking losely, so i'llbeit in a limited capacity. He 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.279 is back at practice, did some team drills on yesterday. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.760 Is yes, his needle is pointing in the right direction. 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.960 As far as Sunday against the Ravens, Let's see Whenlee 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:48.880 Hooker's shoulder limited rest day and Marshawn kneeling he was full, 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.560 so that CAF issue is not bothering him at all. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:52.280 Uh. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.479 And that's really those are the big things. And John 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.880 Stevens Junior also returned to practice, so he has a 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.800 chance of making his NFL debut. So not only could 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.320 you likely be getting Jake Ferguson back, but you might 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.400 be getting the debut John Stevens, So you might be 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.040 getting some real tight end depth going into this game. 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.080 So yeah, but just to reiterate, Mozzie Smith, keep an 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.799 eye on that, Trayvon Diggs and Cedee Lamb. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.479 No concern likely for the tight end room. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.599 I like it, just like the Raven suit. What you did? Yeah, 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.320 I suit you. I didn't like what you did there, 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:24.080 but I suit you did. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:24.880 I liked it. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.920 You liked it. It was pretty likely you like the Uh. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.400 So you said no concern for CD. 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.000 That was the first name that popped up for me 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.920 when DNP and it's like, oh my gosh, what is happening? 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.120 What's going on? Even Zach Martin was out there and 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.920 then he was listed as a limited. 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.400 Right he was limited, but he wasn't. It was like 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.600 an imp which is not injury related for those that 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.440 are asking. So it was a rest day for him 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.400 no matter what. But again, per NFL rules, if it's 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.800 anything wrong with the player physically, half to list it, 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:54.720 so they put knee. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:56.360 But he's he's fine. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.280 I feel like technically Kyle Yeoman should be on the 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.440 injury report today for sleep. 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.080 Yeah, sleep deprivation, Yeah, definitely take that. Yeah, I would 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:05.920 love that injury designation. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.960 But the deprivation, Yeah, he can't hit his rim cycle 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.679 to save his life. But no, we spoke with Ceede 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:17.880 Lamb in the in the locker or e rem not 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.920 realm rem. We spoke with Clamb in the locker room, 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.880 and he was he was. He was the usual Ceed 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.800 Lamb right, he's focused. And there's no indication whatsoever that 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.520 Ceed Lamb or even Treyvon Diggs are concerned about taking 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.719 the field for the fullest slate of work on Sunday. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.599 So that was the scariest part by far, and looking 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.280 up and down the injury report. On the opposite side 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.960 of things, it was very similar for the Ravens. I mean, 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.200 you have Kyle Hamilton was a d n P. You 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.960 had Kyle van Noy, Uh. I mean there's a couple 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.760 of guys, yeah, that that are significant contributors to the 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.440 Ravens on both sides of the ball that did not practice. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.240 Absolutely, we got six d MPs for the Ravens. We 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.320 got a l I'm not going to his name, Okay, 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.800 their guard. We got Jayalen Lamore Davis. He did not 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.039 practice cornerback Cal Hamilton's safety. So you got two in 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.680 the secondary that did not practice. One was a personal issue, 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.080 Mark Davis was a personal issue. But Cal Hamilton is 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.200 dealing with a back issue. Okay, so there's that. You 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.000 got a Lisa Isaac dealing with a hamstring, but he 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.560 was full Ronnie Stanley tackle. Obviously ankle did not participate, 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:26.840 So a little bit of a protection issue there. But 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:32.960 to be frank with you, speaking subjectively, didn't Figger have 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:38.880 a back issue? And yeah, and it didn't matter whatsoever, 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.200 so we'll see, although it didn't matter in Cleveland, so 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.640 who knows, man, We can't. Cal van Noy, he did 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.080 not practice with an eye and a groin injury, which 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:51.080 is an odd combination. I am growing. Yeah, that's that's 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.840 rough man dealing with a groin issue and you get poked. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:00.840 Give a quick one of these. 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:06.440 So then Nate wiggansqution with Nick and he's a concussion. 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:06.800 Protocol there, you know. 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.040 So there's the injury report between the two teams, and 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.240 hopefully the Cowboys get both Zach Martin fully healthy and 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.680 ready to go back on the field Sunday. And then 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:18.680 of course you've got Jake Ferguson and John Stevens as 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:19.520 your tight end room. 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.120 Continues to show a little bit extra depth. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.440 So somebody on Twitter replied to my injury report dropped 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.800 yesterday and said they'd be completely fine with Zach Martin 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:33.400 just being pulled out his regress. 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.199 Yeah, yeah, Zach, we're talking about I saw the Zach Martin. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:37.280 I saw the same tweet. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:41.079 They were like, he's regress. If you benched that Martin. 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.200 No, honestly, if you want to say he has regressed 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:48.199 since twenty twenty two, that's fair, but he is still 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:52.280 his His eighty percent of twenty twenty two is still 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.280 thirty percent better than anybody else still in all pro Yeah, 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.800 let's get it twist famous and if you watch the film, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.440 there are times where he gets beat. It's plain and simple, 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.679 But he used to be impenetrable he used to be 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.760 Thanos the second time we've made a Fanos reference in 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.880 the last two days. But he used to be that 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.520 guy where you could not full glove all those Infinity stones, 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:13.720 all of them. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.560 And that was what he used to be. He's not 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.640 that anymore. He's part of it. But he's still got 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.720 like three stones. Yeah, he's got like three of the 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.599 five reality times. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.640 So yeah, time starting us float away from him a 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.200 little bit, right, You see what I'm saying. 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.920 Yeah, Yeah, it's still got still got. I love TJ. 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.120 Bass by the way I thought he's He's He's about 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.679 as good of a backup guard as you're going to 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.560 get from an undrafted free agent, from a guy like 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.160 that who isn't going to be expected to do anything 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.559 until maybe even his second contract, hopefully knock on Wood 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.520 his second contract. Maybe at that point he moves into 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.600 the starting role and he's good to go. I feel 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:54.680 very confident with TJ. 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.640 Bass. That doesn't mean I don't want Zach Martin. You 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:58.800 want Zach Martine. 0:09:59.480 --> 0:09:59.640 Uh. 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:01.960 Let's talk about the opposite side of the line of scrimmage. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.040 Though we talked about Mozzie Smith a little bit there, 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.280 All of a sudden the defensive tackle room is looking 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:11.160 mighty mighty fin They go out and they get Carlos Watkins. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.280 They signed him yesterday. That was right after we got 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.920 off the air and that news came down. Jordan Phillips 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.040 to ir Watkins poached off of the practice squad. As 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.080 Patrick you alluded to a moment ago. He's kind of 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.079 a tweeter. He's not in a true one tech three tech. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.520 He's more of an in between a three and a five. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.240 He's a guy who can play the edge. A lot 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.120 of Washington used him that way, Atlanta used them that way, 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.560 even Dallas in the second year that he was what 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.800 the Cowboys did, and just seeing him out on the 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:43.439 practice field yesterday, he looks slim for a defensive tackle. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.400 If Mozzie Smith is out for a significant portion of time, 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.640 and we do not have news right now on Mozzie Smith, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.840 Hopefully when we talked to coach here in about an 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.800 hour we'll know a little bit more. But if Mozzie 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.600 Smith's out for a significant amount of time, is this 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.720 defensive tackle room all of a sudden priority numero uno 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.520 or or panic button time in that room? 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:11.000 I I don't want to be disrespectful but you do 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.880 want to be honest. I'm always honest. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.480 I have to say the same, save what your chest 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.079 for tomorrow and actually have a surprise for you guys tomorrow. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.440 That's scary, is it kool aid? From the no. 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:28.600 From from the depth perspective, yes, it is almost time 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:35.080 to sound the alarm. From the effectiveness side of that room, 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.599 I think that I've pulled the cover off and my 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:43.040 hand is hovering because what I saw on film last 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:49.640 week from that unit was hm, hmm, underwhelming. It's probably 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.640 the most respectable. That's pleasant. Yeah, that was probably it's 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.600 probably underwhelming. I'm not I'm not ready to again. My 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:59.240 hand is not on the button, but it's hovering. And hm, 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.680 it wasn't what you saw against Cleveland. But you know, 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:03.760 you have to take Cleveland almost with the grain of salt. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.920 You know. I was excited. They're impactful. We had a 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:08.800 lot of pressures. But then you have to think about 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:12.120 the fact that you're playing against backup tackles, so that's 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.839 something to take into consideration. I'm not taking away all 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:17.719 the value, but I have to take away some of 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.719 the value because that's not their dudes, right, They're not 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.480 their main guy. So then you look at a unit 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.719 that has their dudes and all of a sudden you're 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.679 still made it. And not only are you still made it, 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.839 but you're you're working backwards. The defensive line was getting 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.360 moved backwards. There was times where you could pause the 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.280 film and D linemen were eight yards back. 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:34.520 Yep. 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:36.320 There was times where you could pause the film and 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.880 D linemen were getting thrown physically on the ground, like 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.080 thrown on the ground. Like I'm talking Jazzy Jeff if 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:44.840 you were in Take Fresh, Prince of bel Air and 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.600 Jazzy Jeff Miday are getting tossed out by Uncle Phil, 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:49.280 literally getting. 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:49.800 Thrown on the ground. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.240 There was times where linebackers were turned the opposite direction 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:54.839 and eyes are to the sideline looking at it. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.319 I don't even know who you know. So it was. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.960 It was just this hardening last week to see the 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.199 ineffectiveness of this defensive line. So in terms of depth 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.360 of Mazzi's not there, Yeah, it's a depth play, But 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.000 no disrespect to Mazi. I haven't seen him show up 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:13.040 in a major way yet. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.600 And know you're not wrong in that assessment. No disrespect 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:15.960 to Jordan. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.720 Small sample size to be fair, it's a small sampitize. Okay, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.600 so let's go to the veterans Lynnville. Joseph my old teammate, 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.880 he did not show up last week. He was him 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.480 Jordan Phillips. All those guys looked like they were see 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.160 walking laterally pushed. They were getting pushed, and I think 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:32.840 if they watched the film, they will say the same thing. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:33.480 I have no problem. 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.319 Everything I say on here, I will say it directly 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.040 to their face because it's what I see on film. 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.920 There's times where you should never see d linman's feet 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.160 crossing over and look like they were doing karaokes. And 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.000 as a defensive interior defensive lineman, your feet can never 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.200 be in a situation where you're now doing karaokes because 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.600 another three hundred pounds man. And most of the time 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.960 as an interior defensivelignment, there's gonna be six hundred pounds 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.280 on you versus just a three hundred pounds because they're 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.560 usually combo box and duce blocks, so their work together 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.520 half a man, each guy working to push you over, 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.000 and if you're growing sideways, they're throwing you across and 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.800 they're working up to now Maris Lee of Howe, and 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.560 you know what I say, and it's just it's just 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:16.440 unrealistic to ask your Now, we're doing featuring linebackers to 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.400 be able to take on that assignment. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.480 What do you attribute that to? Is it a lack 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.040 of effort? Is it a lack of execution? I mean 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:25.440 a little bit of everything, properly. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.600 It's not effort. These guys are trying. And that's why 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:28.040 that's why. 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:29.320 I'll never attack a man's effort. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:34.120 It's execution, and that is that an execution that lacks 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.240 because of the understanding or a lack thereof of the scheme. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.160 For me, it was it was gap discipline. For me, 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:40.040 it was gap disciplined. 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:43.200 There was times where you watch this defensive line versus 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:47.280 the Saints offensive line and literally, right, if you imagine 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.160 that you're lined up on a center, okay, and you're 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.560 playing the ones right, so you're you're half a man, 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.400 say to the right, right to the right of the 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.760 of the offensive of center, and all of a sudden 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.120 you're half a body across right. You have the advantage 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.560 and they were deal getting reached by that center. Reach 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.640 when I say reach for those that don't understand, if 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.320 the center is going to your right and you're already 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.760 half a man to the right. You have the head start. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.160 There's no way that the center should be able to 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.080 now out leverage you to that same side and wall 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.960 you off. That happened over and over and over again. 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.560 And you can go back, and everybody who's listening has 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.240 the ability to go on Next Gen and watch it, 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.880 or have the ability to go on NFL pro' if 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.280 y'all have an NFL Plus account, you have the ability 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.280 to watch film. If y'all didn't know that, So go 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.480 watch the film and you can literally pause it. And 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.120 there's times where the d line has now shifted over 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.800 six yards in one direction or another, and you could 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.560 literally just draw a line and say, I have now 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.440 put this entire defense in a box right, and now 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.960 I'm expecting my safety to come downhill and make the play. 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.680 But guess what, last week they were out leveraged there too, 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.240 because there was receivers that were coming in cracking on 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:55.920 the safeties. 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.560 And now you're relying on Trayvon Diggs to make the 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.560 tech come on. Now you're running directly at him. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:01.960 That's why I'm saying you can't. This is not a dance. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.440 This is not dance with the stars where you can 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:07.400 go sideways. This particular defense that Coach Zimmer has installed, 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.680 you have to have d linemen that a either go 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.400 vertical and go north from their direction and they push 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.480 the guys back across the line of scrimmage, or you 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.160 hold the fort and you don't get moved at all. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.440 And that's why we spend so much time talking about 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.880 the interior Divs alignment on this particular show, because that 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.920 is literally the assignment. You either move them backwards, demand 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.560 that is really three fastest, move them backwards, demand a 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.160 double team, or don't go anywhere at all. And as 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.080 we talk about the Baltimore Ravens, is it's a great 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.680 it's a great comparison because that's what their guys do. 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.360 Oh yeah, oh yeah it is. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.040 It's frustrating when you see guys moving backwards and you 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.000 see this lack of gap discipline. But it's all got 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.320 to be rooted from somewhere. And that's where I have 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.920 the biggest question mark. Is it a lack of understanding 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:57.920 with the scheme. I agree with you, guys, I don't 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.640 think it's effort. These guys are all playing and they 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.760 know what it takes to be in the NFL. They're 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.919 not just out there like collecting paychecks, Like that's not 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:06.679 how this works. 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:07.840 Either that or it's the. 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:09.320 Not for long league and you're not going to get 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.760 another opportunity and you'll get blacklisted. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.399 Before you even know it. So I don't think it 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:17.120 is an effort or a lack thereof from these guys. 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.679 But there's something leading to that inefficiency and gap discipline. 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:25.359 There's something leading to the getting pushed back five to 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.560 ten yards downfield, And it might just be as simple 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.320 as a lack of talent, and it might be it 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.080 may be a lack of talent in that room, unfortunately, 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:35.720 and that's kind of what you're having to deal. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.520 And do you think that's because of the priority at 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.400 defensive tackle or just defensive line in general, where it's 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.760 like you've drafted really good guys there. Obviously you have Micah, 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.320 you have DeMarcus Lawrence, obviously guys that you've drafted. Yeah, 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.120 oh so Di Gizua you drafted. But do you think 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.520 that outside of the draft they've made a concerted effort 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:58.439 to sign talented players at that position. Has it been 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.440 a priority in free agency? 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.160 Yeah, it's up to question. 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:02.440 Right. 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.040 Prior to the Mike Zimmer era starting effect of this year, 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:07.280 it's not been a priority. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:08.880 So the answers, no. 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:13.240 Except for drafting guys high. I mean they drafted second round, 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:14.800 acquiring from outside of the building. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.000 God, So as far as free agency acquisitions, it has 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.960 not been a top priority much, you know, much similar 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:25.640 to how they treated the safety position pre dan Quinn right, 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.920 as far as like they draft and you can get 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:32.000 serviceable guys like a Jeff Heath or Kevon Frasier, but 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:36.399 as far as getting high caliber guys like a Malike Hooker. 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:40.040 That was dan Quinn right, that that's how that worked, 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.080 and that's why. And you can you know, there's rightful 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.480 reasons to to criticize dan Quinn, but we're not getting 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:50.480 into all that. But speaking positionally, whereas dan Quinn helped 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:54.040 you realize the value of the safety position, hopefully Zimmer 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:55.960 is starting to turn that page for them at the 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.320 defensive tackle position. Now, could they have approached it sooner 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.199 in free agency? App so freakingly they could have. Yeah, 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.639 but you have seen that they've tried. 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:05.280 They've tried. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.199 Obviously, you you address it with early round picks that 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:09.520 haven't necessarily worked out. 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.760 Like we talked about Tristan Hill, you talk about mis Smith. 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.160 So far there's been there's been a valiant effort there. 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.520 And I think when they drafted Neville, Gallimore was a 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.440 third round pick. Golden was a third round pick who 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.120 they moved inside. I mean was a third round pick 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:24.840