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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We

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Speaker 1: had mentioned yesterday the story of the four Americans who

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Speaker 1: have been kidnapped by cartel gunmen believed to be from

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Speaker 1: the Gulf Cartel, which is the cartel that controls the

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Speaker 1: territory in the very southeastern part or if you go

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Speaker 1: to southeastern Texas across the border there, it's on the

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Speaker 1: Caribbean side of Mexico and adjoining Texas that region, So

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Speaker 1: I guess the northeastmost region of Mexico and the southeast

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Speaker 1: most region of Texas. To put the geography in your

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Speaker 1: mind as we talk about this, and tom Olipas, which

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Speaker 1: is one of six states where there's currently a state

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Speaker 1: department do not Go advisory and it's pretty tough to

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Speaker 1: get that advisory, meaning has to be really bad stuff

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Speaker 1: going on, very a very violent situation those states of Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Here's what we know right now. First of all, two

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Speaker 1: of four Americans that were kidnapped on Friday have been

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Speaker 1: found dead. Two of them have been have been recovered alive.

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Speaker 1: We know that they were traveling from South Carolina for

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Speaker 1: medical tourism. This is when people either go to do

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Speaker 1: a cheaper or a different medical procedure from what they

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Speaker 1: would get in the United States. Sometimes people do this

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Speaker 1: even to get prescription drugs. So they were crossing over

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Speaker 1: for a medical And by the way, we have the

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Speaker 1: video up at clayenbuck dot com because this was in

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Speaker 1: broad daylight. Cartel gunmen in Matamoros kidnapping these four Americans

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Speaker 1: and as we know, two of them have worked. Two

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Speaker 1: of them were killed in the midst of what seems

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Speaker 1: to have been a cartel. There was a cartel shootout.

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Speaker 1: I think clay is the cartel members shot other cartel

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Speaker 1: members and then they seize these four Americans. There are

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Speaker 1: more details that are coming out, but here's here's what

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Speaker 1: is very clear. At this point, you have more and

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Speaker 1: more members of Congress talking about treating the narco traffickers

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Speaker 1: and the the drug cartels in Mexico as a foreign

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Speaker 1: terrorist organization and treating this as a primarily military instead

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Speaker 1: of entirely law enforcement threat. Right now, it is entirely

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Speaker 1: dealt with by law enforcement means. And Bill Barr, the

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Speaker 1: former Attorney General, wrote that op ed in the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal about how we should treat the cartels like

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Speaker 1: isis ut putting that aside for a moment. We just

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Speaker 1: said last week this is going to get more violent,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to we said it on this show.

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Speaker 1: It's going to affect more Americans. I think, unfortunately, that

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Speaker 1: is obviously going to be the case going forward. Here

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Speaker 1: we are, we've already had two Americans seized and killed.

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Speaker 1: And Bill Barr here he is. He was just on

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Speaker 1: I think it was Fox last night saying that we

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Speaker 1: need to treat the cartels the way we treated the

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Speaker 1: Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. Play three. I think

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Speaker 1: we have to deal with this group like we dealt

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Speaker 1: with Isis. We have to use every tool. We have

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Speaker 1: to use economic, we have to use intelligence assets, military assets,

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Speaker 1: and law enforcement, and we have to methodically dismantle these groups.

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Speaker 1: And we have to tell the Mexicans they're either coming

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Speaker 1: along with us for the ride or step aside. We're

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Speaker 1: going to do it by ourselves. But it's I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what's unacceptable, which seems to be, you know, the

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Speaker 1: word that the Biden administration trots out when one of

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Speaker 1: these outrages occurred. What's unacceptable is the status quo and

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Speaker 1: we have to deal with it directly. I think he's right,

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Speaker 1: and I don't claim to be a sophisticated expert in

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Speaker 1: how we deploy American resources to go after the cartels.

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Speaker 1: But here is my basic analysis. Mexico can't do anything right.

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Speaker 1: They are effectively a narco state. Their government is co opted,

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Speaker 1: and you know how those government co options work. They

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Speaker 1: might do an occasional raid, but it's basically in concert

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Speaker 1: It has virtually no impact. So when I read bars

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Speaker 1: Trump ended, isis right. I mean, you tell me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, you would know better. But it doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: like Isis has the power, at least based on right now,

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Speaker 1: detrimental to the United States. What Trump did was it

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Speaker 1: was brilliant, and he didn't get nearly enough credit for it.

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Speaker 1: It was brilliant but also somewhat obvious. But others had

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Speaker 1: been unwilling to do it before him. And that was

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Speaker 1: the people who were over there, our military commanders on

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Speaker 1: and know what's going on, let them do their jobs,

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Speaker 1: go get them. The order was go get them for ices,

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Speaker 1: and it was escalate the air strikes and people on

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Speaker 1: the ground work with Kurdish allies, wrap up the bad guys.

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Speaker 1: End of story. It worked. I think privately, Buck on

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Speaker 1: many levels, Mexico would welcome the United States taking on

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Speaker 1: imagine that we have the intelligence to know where many

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Speaker 1: of these narco facilities are operating, that is, where they

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Speaker 1: are producing the fentnol that's coming across our borders and

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Speaker 1: killing tens of thousands of people. I would think we

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Speaker 1: also have the resources at this point to know where

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Speaker 1: many high level narco traffickers, that is, the people who

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Speaker 1: I think we have to do something that they basically

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Speaker 1: with border security, because the cartels are now running a

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Speaker 1: bigger business smuggling people across our border, taking them to

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Speaker 1: I saw most recently estimated the size of that business

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Speaker 1: at thirteen billion dollars for the cartel. Putting that in perspective,

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Speaker 1: smuggling people and taking people illegally to our border is

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Speaker 1: a bigger business now for the cartel than any pro

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Speaker 1: sports league is smuggling to in Mexico. For the cartels

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Speaker 1: is bigger than the NFL for everybody out there, like

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Speaker 1: in America. If that's not a holy crap moment. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't even consider the drug aspect of this business. So

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Speaker 1: the ISIS comparison is also interesting because you had with

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Speaker 1: the Islamic State a criminal enterprise operating in a whole

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Speaker 1: range of facets. Yeah, there's the terrorism, the military aspect

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Speaker 1: of it, and the threat of their continue member that

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Speaker 1: at one point we had to send Apache gunships within

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Speaker 1: sixty miles of Baghdad to help turn back ISIS fighters,

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Speaker 1: I mean ISIS. The blitzkrieg they managed during the Obama

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Speaker 1: administration was one of the biggest failures of the Obama administration,

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Speaker 1: by the way, among many, but there were numerous ways.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were involved in the oil, effectively the

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Speaker 1: black market oil business. They were involved in protection rackets,

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Speaker 1: they were involved in kidnapping for ransom. They're all these

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Speaker 1: different schemes that isis was using to enrich itself. And

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Speaker 1: when you're a criminal enterprise and you don't care, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of areas you can go. You see this

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Speaker 1: with the mafia, right, Yeah, people think of the mafia

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Speaker 1: as depending on what era, right, running numbers and prostitution

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Speaker 1: Russian mafia, different organized crime groups in America, They'll get

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Speaker 1: involved in medicare fraud, they'll get involved in I had

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Speaker 1: what I'm looking for, who told me about one of

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Speaker 1: his clients was involved in a organized crime based oil

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Speaker 1: from like cooking oil from different fast food restaurants. Theft,

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Speaker 1: It was millions and millions of dollars of theft. Right.

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Speaker 1: I bring this up because the car, the Mexican drug cartells.

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Speaker 1: This didn't get a lot of attention. Just a few

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Speaker 1: days ago, the Biden administration was sanctioning a timeshare fraud

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Speaker 1: network run by the cartels. They're involved in timeshare fraud,

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Speaker 1: They're involved in trafficking. They're obviously doing billions of dollars

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Speaker 1: dying each year now from this, but Clay, the criminal

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Speaker 1: tentacles of the cartel and the corruption and the payoffs.

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Speaker 1: This goes so deep in Mexican society right now. The

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Speaker 1: not have things be that crazy. You have the Helisco,

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Speaker 1: you know, new generation cartel, which was involved in doing

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Speaker 1: It's become ultra violent. So they're a little bit like

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Speaker 1: the Zetas I think with the golf cartel back in

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Speaker 1: the day. Eventually the guys who have all the guns

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm trying to this is if we really

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Speaker 1: take this on, it's much bigger than I A lot

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Speaker 1: of people realize that's all. I think it's true. But

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Speaker 1: what I would just say, we can continue this conversation

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Speaker 1: What I would say is if Mexico had avowed terrorist

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Speaker 1: organization that had killed a hundred Americans. Right, let's just

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Speaker 1: say that it was some sort of Islamic terrorist group

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Speaker 1: hundred percent go to war to end their ability to

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Speaker 1: The Mexican drug trade, the cartels are killing one hundred

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Speaker 1: is it hydra headed? So like, basically, the demand is

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Speaker 1: so substantial for drugs in the United States that it's

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Speaker 1: We thought that people talk about Plan Colombia and the

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Speaker 1: So to your point, we've never actually eradicated the drug

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Speaker 1: Maybe it will be better to move it out of

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Speaker 1: Mexico at least so there's more cost structure associated with

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Speaker 1: getting the fentanyl to our country. But this is a big, big,

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to discuss today. We have the

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We power

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Speaker 1: through the Tuesday edition of the program. We are joined

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Speaker 1: now by a guest who has done a ton over

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Speaker 1: the past two years, almost more than anyone in the media,

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Speaker 1: to shine a light on January sixth and how much

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Speaker 1: of a sham, portions of substantial portions of the story

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Speaker 1: surrounding January sixth have been She is Julie Kelly, senior

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Speaker 1: writer American Greatness, author of January sixth, How Democrats use

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Speaker 1: the Capitol protest to launch a war on terror against

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Speaker 1: the political right. You've been writing about this for two

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Speaker 1: years now. How much vindication, validation and just sheer finally

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Speaker 1: reaction did you have to seeing Tucker Carlson's report last

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Speaker 1: night showing much of the footage from behind January sixth

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Speaker 1: that has been covered up. Well, Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for having me on, and I do have to say

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Speaker 1: it was very gratifying as the reporter who Tier Point

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Speaker 1: has been covering this issue for two years, but more

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Speaker 1: importantly since May of twenty twenty one, revealing the existence

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Speaker 1: of these tapes, the fourteen thousand hours and now it's

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Speaker 1: forty four thousand, but demanding the release of this video.

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Speaker 1: So that was very gratifying. But I have to say

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Speaker 1: I was more relieved and happy for the January sixth

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Speaker 1: defendants and their families and their attorneys because concealing all

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Speaker 1: of this video not just from the American people, but

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Speaker 1: from the people who are charged to need this evidence

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Speaker 1: as exculpatory to defend themselves against this ruthless Department of Justice.

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Speaker 1: I hope that this is just one part of the

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Speaker 1: progress in getting all of that video in the hands

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Speaker 1: of the defendants and their attorneys. Julie, they're claiming that

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Speaker 1: this was available. I'm sure you've seen some of this now, right.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of different One of the challenges we

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Speaker 1: have whenever the truth starts to come out is the

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Speaker 1: other side rallies a whole bunch of different either you know,

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Speaker 1: counter attacks, explanations that rely on misdirection, or just additional fabrication.

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Speaker 1: I've seen some claims that, oh, the defense Attorne Jerney's

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Speaker 1: had access to this before, but is that I mean

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Speaker 1: what is the accuracy of that. I also would wonder

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Speaker 1: how is a public defender going to go through thousands

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Speaker 1: and thousands of hours of video? Right, So, the media

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Speaker 1: spin and the Democrats and I'm sure you thought Chuck

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Speaker 1: Schumer even go to this. Yeah, we played audio of

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Speaker 1: that in the first hour on the show, Julie Chuck

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Speaker 1: Schumer on the Senate floor ridiculing Tucker for sharing this footage. Right, So,

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Speaker 1: there is not a single defense attorney who will confirm

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Speaker 1: what the media is saying, and that is that this

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Speaker 1: entire platform, this trope of video has been made available.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I just posted on Twitter from January this year,

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Speaker 1: two years later, that the government admits it is still

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Speaker 1: producing global discovery. So that means discovery that pertains to

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Speaker 1: the entire case, in the entire prosecution, not just case

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Speaker 1: specific evidence. So what's happening is the DJ of producing

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Speaker 1: very tight brief, cherry picked clips. They enter those that

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Speaker 1: those clips in evidence either for pre trial, detention hearings,

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Speaker 1: or sentencing or at trial. Those clips are under protective orders.

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Speaker 1: People the defendants have to sign off on protective orders.

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Speaker 1: So there's very tight rules as to how the defendants

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Speaker 1: can view this evidence, especially if they're incarcerated under pre

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Speaker 1: trialed attention orders, and then how defense attorneys can use it.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this is a hidened seat game that

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Speaker 1: the government's been playing for two years. House Democrats, though,

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Speaker 1: have this entire trow the forty four the forty four

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Speaker 1: thousand hours, which represents the entire twenty four hour period

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Speaker 1: of January sixth. They've had that for two years. They

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Speaker 1: could have released this to whomever they wanted, but they

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Speaker 1: have also been complicit in concealing very likely exculp tory

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Speaker 1: evidence from defendants. This is a constitutional crisis. This violates

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Speaker 1: so many constitutional rights. And the judges on the DC

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Speaker 1: District Court, I have to tell you they're the real

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Speaker 1: villains here because they've been watching this unfold. They've allowed

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Speaker 1: it to happen. They have not protected the due process

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Speaker 1: rights of these defendants. There's so many bad guys in this,

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Speaker 1: but I have to point to especially the judges who've

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Speaker 1: let us continue. Julie, you've talked about the fact that

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Speaker 1: many people have just let these January six political prisoners

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Speaker 1: be left to their own devices. Very few people are

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Speaker 1: drawing attention to them. I don't know what the number

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Speaker 1: is but a lot of these guys, mostly men, were

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Speaker 1: held in solitary confinement for months before their trial was

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Speaker 1: going on. What do we know about who's still being

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Speaker 1: held basically as a political prisoner, And how does the

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Speaker 1: release of this footage change the pressure that might be

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Speaker 1: on these cases. So it's a little bit harder to

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Speaker 1: tell now, buck, who is under pretriald attention, who's been sentenced,

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Speaker 1: who's taken cle deals. The government just BRABBEDDJ this week

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Speaker 1: that they have a thousand total defendants, more than half

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Speaker 1: have accepted cle deals, and so it's kind of hard

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Speaker 1: to tell who's in pre trial who hasn't been But

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Speaker 1: I can safely say that over a hundred defendants at

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Speaker 1: one point have been denied bail and kept some now

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Speaker 1: approaching two years. If you can believe it, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's insane. Wait, so that means that there's you're telling

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Speaker 1: us there are still people who are being held. Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: there are people. There are members of the Proud Boys

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Speaker 1: who face seditious conspiracy charges. Only one has a violent

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Speaker 1: charge against him breaking a window. The others have no

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Speaker 1: violent charges, not assaulting police officers, not bringing a weapon, vandalism, nothing.

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Speaker 1: They have been held behind bars for two years, one

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Speaker 1: of them more than two years. Their trial is going

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Speaker 1: on right now in Washington, DC. They were in jail

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Speaker 1: almost two years before they even got jury selection. There

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Speaker 1: is another man, William Crestman, who has been in the

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Speaker 1: DC gulag since January of twenty twenty one. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: even have a trial date yet. So these are just

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Speaker 1: a few examples of the as I say, constitutional crisis.

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Speaker 1: What's happening because there's a special set of rules clay

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Speaker 1: in book that the Chief Judge of the DC District

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Speaker 1: Courts outlined early on how judges and the government could

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Speaker 1: determine who would be denied bail who wouldn't, And it's

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Speaker 1: strictly based on their involvement in this four hour disturbance

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Speaker 1: on January sixth. They are political prisoners. I consider all

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Speaker 1: of them political prisoners, even those who were found guilty

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Speaker 1: at trial. Outrageous sentences being handed down, I mean months

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Speaker 1: in prison for parading in the capital, a low level

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Speaker 1: crespy misdemeanor. This never happened before. And so the end, well,

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Speaker 1: can I ask you, Julie, well, whatever happened to the right,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we have one to the accused shall

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Speaker 1: enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial. Whatever

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Speaker 1: happened to that that? This is not No one thinks

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Speaker 1: this is speedy. This wouldn't be speedy in the Soviet Union,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't. I mean, I think Putin is looking in

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Speaker 1: with envy at what is happening in our nation's capital,

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Speaker 1: judicial and legal system. And so yes, the speedy trial

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Speaker 1: clock keeps getting told. They keep exempting time from it

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Speaker 1: because here's the trick DJ use it. They supersede indict people,

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Speaker 1: which means they add charges or they add descendants. So

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Speaker 1: this forces the descendants, the defense attorneys to basically start

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Speaker 1: from scratch because they wanted to delay a lot of

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Speaker 1: these trials. They wanted, for example, the oathkeeper's trial to

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Speaker 1: coincide with the midterm elections in the January sixth committee,

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Speaker 1: which is exactly what happened. We haven't even talked about that,

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Speaker 1: that conflict of interest. But the judges are nothing more

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Speaker 1: than a rubber stamp for this DOJ. They are the

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Speaker 1: ones who are allowing this to happen. So the Speedy

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Speaker 1: Trial Act means nothing. Presumption of innocence means nothing, simply

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Speaker 1: because they protested Joe Biden's election, they are considered domestic terrorists.

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Speaker 1: That's what this FBI has said. So Julie, where do

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Speaker 1: we go from here? So Tucker presumably is going to

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Speaker 1: show more footage tonight. And what I said was in

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Speaker 1: the first hour, essentially we had a show trial, right

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Speaker 1: the prosecution, that is, the January sixth committee members got

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Speaker 1: to come out with no opposition and make their case

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Speaker 1: on why January sixth was, as Karine, Jean Pierre and

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Speaker 1: others in the administration have said it, including Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: the most dangerous threat to our democracy since the Civil War.

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Speaker 1: I mean that is legitimately what they've tried to argue.

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Speaker 1: And now what Tucker is doing in some sense is

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Speaker 1: providing the defense right the further context, Hey, QAnon Shaman

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Speaker 1: was not actually the most dangerous human being on the

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Speaker 1: planet January six the Brian Sicknick was not pummeled to

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Speaker 1: death by protesters. In fact, here's video of him continuing

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Speaker 1: to move throughout the Capitol to prove that he didn't

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Speaker 1: die on that day from attack from January six trespassers.

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Speaker 1: Where do we go from here? Like, what is the

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Speaker 1: next step in your mind? Now that we've effectively gotten

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Speaker 1: at least some form of the counter narrative out there.

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Speaker 1: So two things are going to happen. One, you already

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Speaker 1: see defense attorneys filing emergency motions in court asking a

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Speaker 1: judge to demand this extended trove of footage, the forty

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Speaker 1: four thousand hours. They want to see all of that

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Speaker 1: to see what other exculpatory evidence there could be, like

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Speaker 1: we san Jacob chans Ley's case. The next step is

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Speaker 1: if the judges won't step up, which they won't. I've

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Speaker 1: watched this court for two years in horror. Is for

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Speaker 1: Congress then House Republican and who technically own that footage

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Speaker 1: even though belongs to Capitol Police. They're part of the

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Speaker 1: legislative branch. That's their boss. Kevin McCarthy is then to

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Speaker 1: make sure that this is accessible in some ways to

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Speaker 1: the defense attorneys, that they can produce clips and that

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Speaker 1: the government has withheld, and then they can enter those

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Speaker 1: to either drop cases, dismiscounts, release people from jail, but

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Speaker 1: certainly to be used in any sort of plea agreement

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Speaker 1: or a jury trial. Julie, do you think it would

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Speaker 1: make sense? And I'm using this example just because I

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Speaker 1: do think this is such a voluminous amount of data

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Speaker 1: in the wiki links trove, right, the idea was, let's

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Speaker 1: put everything out there and will allow individuals to go

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Speaker 1: through it. In your mind, is there a benefit much

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Speaker 1: of this forty four thousand hours is basically empty rooms, right,

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Speaker 1: because it's twenty four hours, Like I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many total hours of you know, I would say relevant

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Speaker 1: data there is, But would it makes sense to you

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Speaker 1: for the House Republicans wants to Tucker is through and

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Speaker 1: has done his reports and has pulled the stuff out

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Speaker 1: to just put all this available online so that the

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Speaker 1: American public, regardless of their political persuasions, could have access

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Speaker 1: somewhere down the road that that is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: But you already see Capitol Police pushing back today. You

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Speaker 1: clips were misrepresented, that police officers were not escorting Jacob Chansley,

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Speaker 1: Like we're supposed to not believe our own eyes. So

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Speaker 1: this will be a huge battle to get the relevant segments,

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Speaker 1: as you said, uploaded onto a platform. But we really

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Speaker 1: need to get that done. And I will say for

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Speaker 1: those who wanted that done immediately. You see why it

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Speaker 1: was smart for Tucker to do this. If you flooded

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Speaker 1: the zone with a bunch of random clips, very few

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Speaker 1: people understand this issue is carefully say I do, or

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Speaker 1: Tucker or a handful of journalists. You flood the zone,

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Speaker 1: it has no impact. This is a surgical strike by

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Speaker 1: This is honestly sorry to cut you off, Julie, but

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Speaker 1: haven't gotten the pickup that I think they deserved. Right.

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Speaker 1: I think that that was sort of, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: made available, even to people like me. Surgical strike, huge impact,

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Speaker 1: the panic in Washington and in the news media. And

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Speaker 1: I have to believe that the Department of Justice is palpable.

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Speaker 1: So this is why it was so smart to give

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Speaker 1: this to Tucker. His team so professional, they know this issue,

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Speaker 1: they know what to look for, and that's why you

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Speaker 1: come tonight. Julie's want to ask I'd meant to ask

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Speaker 1: trial for a change of venue. Has that been their

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Speaker 1: this out of DC because they can't get a fair

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Speaker 1: jury trial. Great question. The first trial was one year ago,

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Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty two. Since that time, DJ has

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Speaker 1: Every single judge has denied numerous occasions on numerous motions,

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Speaker 1: We have surveys that show that there's data that shows

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Speaker 1: solid investment in guilty verdicts. I'm telling you it is

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Speaker 1: I'm not an attorney, but I never thought our system

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Speaker 1: Banana Republic. Julie, you are absolutely killing it. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: We rolled through Tuesday edition of the program. We are

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Speaker 1: joined now by our friend Carol Markowitz, who has a

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Speaker 1: book that came out comes out today, doesn't it the book? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's Stolen Youth, How radicals are racing innocence and indoctrinating

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Speaker 1: a generation. Co writer Bethany Mandel, I believe you are

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Speaker 1: in Texas right now. If I remember Gregor, your husband

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Speaker 1: of how much the cowboys stinking are never going to

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Speaker 1: win anything? When you're in Texas well, I like seeing

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys paraphernalia everywhere. That's really a good time. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I think they're going to win something next year. Actually, actually,

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Speaker 1: actually actually I don't think they are. But in all seriousness,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on this book. We know you live in Florida.

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Speaker 1: You've been coming on the show for a couple of

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Speaker 1: years now with us. How happy are you? Because I

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Speaker 1: always like to start with this for people out there

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Speaker 1: who have kids, how much better is your family's life

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Speaker 1: So it's really immeasurable. I'm so much happier with every

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Speaker 1: aspect of our family life in Florida. My kids go

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Speaker 1: to schools where I don't have to worry as much

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Speaker 1: about vocalism being targeted to them, and I don't have

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Speaker 1: to worry as much about them being indoctrinated. Having said

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Speaker 1: all that, in our book, we really cover that. Just

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Speaker 1: because you live in a red state or a red

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Speaker 1: city or a red town in a red enclave, and

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Speaker 1: you think that you're safe, You're not. This is coming

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Speaker 1: for all of our kids. This indoctrination is happening all

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Speaker 1: over the country. And while I feel a lot more

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Speaker 1: peace than I did living in deep, deep, deep Blue Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: I still am on alert and I still know that

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Speaker 1: I have to watch out for what my kids are

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Speaker 1: getting in school, what they're getting at all different kinds

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Speaker 1: of activities, even what they're getting at the pediatrician's office.

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Speaker 1: Hey Carol, it's Buck. So do you go through the

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Speaker 1: various stages in the book? I mean, how do you

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Speaker 1: structure the indoctrination process where everyone understands because it seems

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Speaker 1: like one thing we've just noticed from the media and

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Speaker 1: the actual information, the video and curricula that are being

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Speaker 1: exposed is that they're they're going after kids in a

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Speaker 1: younger and younger ages to try to get their their

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Speaker 1: neurons and their circuits pointing in a certain direction exactly.

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Speaker 1: And why we wanted to write Stolen Youth was because

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Speaker 1: we saw so many books about the targeting of college students,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the targeting of employees at corporations, but

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Speaker 1: nothing that described how early this was happening. So the

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Speaker 1: onto talitarian societies of the past and the way that

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Speaker 1: they targeted children's firmdoctrination, and the way that they separated

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Speaker 1: families and they made sure to keep things secret comparents,

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Speaker 1: and so we trace this leftism that has gripped our

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Speaker 1: society and the way that it's gripped society is in

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Speaker 1: the past, and how it's implemented through force. And then

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Speaker 1: we talk about COVID has a chapter in the book,

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Speaker 1: and about how that the awakening of a lot of

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Speaker 1: parents to really what was going on. And then we

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Speaker 1: focus on schools or institutions, licensing agencies, all the ways

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Speaker 1: that all of these people are talking with one voice,

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Speaker 1: one way to describe, one way to think about anything,

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Speaker 1: one way to speak about anything. You know, you can't

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Speaker 1: be not racist, right, you have to be anti racist,

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Speaker 1: and just saying no, I'm not racist is nowhere near

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Speaker 1: or nothing anymore. So it's very Soviet the way that

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Speaker 1: they demand this spectacle of all of us, and so

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Speaker 1: many people are just willing to go along with it.

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Speaker 1: But there's real danger to what they're doing, and there's

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Speaker 1: real danger specifically to children over what they're doing. Carol

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Speaker 1: Buck and I were talking, and I'm sure you saw

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Speaker 1: this controversy and have been following it, this whole drag

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Speaker 1: it in the book or not, but when I watch

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Speaker 1: these videos, what I am seeing is white moms overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: seem interested in taking their young daughters maybe young sons

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Speaker 1: as well, to these drag shows. And there's almost no

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Speaker 1: men buy in large, Like it's all like it feels

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Speaker 1: like moms at brunch? What's going on here? Because as

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Speaker 1: I talked about it, like if I took one of

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Speaker 1: a pasty show with a legitimate woman, like dancing around

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Speaker 1: in high heels and a thong and like pasties one

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Speaker 1: my wife would probably kill me too. I really think

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Speaker 1: that I might get prosecuted as a dad for bringing

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Speaker 1: a child to an event like that. How has this

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Speaker 1: goutten so mainstream? And what do you think the moms

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Speaker 1: suburban moms. What are they thinking here? Isn't it interesting

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Speaker 1: that if you did that you would get in trouble

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Speaker 1: parent to do that. Would you take a video of

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Speaker 1: it and put it on your social media and be like, look, Carol,

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Speaker 1: if I took if I took one of my boys

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Speaker 1: to a like, you know, like strip type show, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I really think that I would get charged with a

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Speaker 1: crime and get arrested, right. But I would also not

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Speaker 1: I really don't understand it what these women are thinking.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting because they use the LGBT you know

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Speaker 1: it's a porn books that keep getting discovered in school libraries.

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Speaker 1: They're always on the LGBT theme. It's like it's somehow

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Speaker 1: they don't think that this is you know, that this

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Speaker 1: has the same kind of connotations as as straight performances.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you would never allow a woman to grind

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Speaker 1: a man just in drag that should be okay. I

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00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: think that so much of this is the conformist push

857
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: from the left to be like, we are okay with this.

858
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 1: If you're not okay with this, maybe you're not part

859
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: of our wee. And that kind of in group thinking

860
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: is really powerful. People really want to be part of

861
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: the in group, and so when you see these women

862
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: taking their kids, they just want to belong. That's what

863
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: I think. I think that they're saying that we do

864
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: this now, we're okay with this, and if you're not,

865
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: you're not in the group. So we talk a lot

866
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: about conformity and stolen news. We talk a lot about

867
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: the way it's forced on people that conformity. But some

868
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: people conform easier than others, and some people want to

869
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: belong so badly that they'll do this kind of thing

870
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: to their children. Speaking to Carol Marko, It's co author

871
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: of Stolen Youth, how radicals are racing innocence and indoctrinating

872
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: a generation, and of course give our regards Carol, to

873
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: Bethany Mendelier, your co authors done a great job on

874
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: this book. The teachers unions, do you go? Do you

875
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: go after those commy evildoers as well? I'm just wondering,

876
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: like does that because it feels like to me they're

877
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: they're the political muscle that gives cover to the most

878
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: lunatic indoctrination measures that are happening in the schools. Absolutely,

879
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: and so throughout COVID. The thing that I would say

880
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 1: about the teachers unions is like they're not particularly strong.

881
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: It's that the politicians are weak. So it's that they

882
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: prey on these weak peliticians who don't stand up for

883
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: children and don't stand up for the right thing, and

884
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: they force them to do the right you know, what

885
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: they want. And this isn't only Democrats, you know, Like

886
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 1: I think Maryland's governor was Republican and he really didn't

887
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: stand up for kids at all. These people are are

888
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: forcing their way into our kids' lives, and the fact

889
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: that people are letting it happen. You can't really just

890
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: hold the teachers unions accountable just them anymore. It has

891
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: to be all the people who are giving them power,

892
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: all the politicians who don't do the right thing, and

893
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: all the school administrators who continue to listen to these people.

894
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: You can have your own opinion and say no, I'm

895
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: not doing this. And the one thing I want to

896
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: really point out to people is that this leftism, the vocalism,

897
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: is deeply unpopular. They have to do it through force

898
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: because there's no other way to do it. They have

899
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: to do it through secrecy, and they have to make

900
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: sure that parents don't know what's really going on. You know.

901
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: I like to say, they don't run on let's get

902
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: porn in the school library platform because they know that

903
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: parents won't like that, so they have to do it equity.

904
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: And the reason for our book, we wanted to write

905
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: stolen Use so that people will not have the excuse

906
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: to be like, I didn't know, I didn't hear about this.

907
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. You know it's happening. You have to

908
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: fight it, Carol, I think you nailed the answer about

909
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: what these moms are thinking on going to these transgender shows.

910
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: This sort of craziness. One thing that I wonder and

911
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: I think this is something that we can all do

912
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: a better job talking about this concept of band books

913
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: and bucket and I have been hammering it, but I

914
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: think it'll make sense to you as a parent as well.

915
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: When a movie is rated, are we don't say the

916
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: movie is banned because it isn't it's just not appropriate

917
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: for all ages to consume. I think this is one

918
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: of the things that Florida has to push back, you know,

919
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: executives and everybody else, but also people in our world.

920
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: It's actually totally normal to decide what is age appropriate

921
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: for your child. And the way that band is being defined,

922
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: it's as if the book is being taken off the

923
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: shelves and burned and torn away, which is actually what

924
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: left wingers want to do. Everybody I hear is just saying, hey,

925
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: there is a time to learn about sexuality. It's just

926
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: not when you're six, right, I mean in the same way,

927
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 1: and everybody understands it in the concept of movies, because

928
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: most six year olds don't go to R rated movies,

929
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: but we don't say they're banned from the R rated movie.

930
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: That's right, But that's really giving these people the benefit

931
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: of the doubts that they're trying to be honest about it,

932
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: and I don't see a lot of evidence that they are.

933
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: They know these books are inappropriate, if they know what's

934
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: being pulled out of the libraries in Florida are deeply inappropriate.

935
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 1: So when you have these arguments, it's always like that's

936
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: not really happening. And then you're like, here, you know

937
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: are ten examples of pornographic books in school libraries. It

938
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: is actually happening. And they're like, well, that's a really

939
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: small percentage of all the books, you know, of all

940
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: the schools in Florida, and so obviously this is crazy.

941
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: There's no The argument keeps shifting because they know they're

942
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: in the wrong here. If they and it goes for

943
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: so many things, if they would just say, okay, no

944
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: pornographic books in school libraries, and that would be it.

945
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: We would just pull the pornographic books and that's it.

946
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: If they would just say a lot of these teenage

947
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: girls who declare themselves trans are just going through a

948
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: phase and we shouldn't do anything about it. We shouldn't

949
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: be giving them puberty blockers or anything like that, that

950
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: that crisis would be mitigated. But they won't do that

951
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: because the ideology comes first, and the ideology says that

952
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: if conservatives want it, absolutely, we have to fight tooth

953
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: and nail to keep it, and it's a really damaging

954
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: way to treat children. And so in Stolen Youth we

955
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 1: go through all the different ways that this is happening

956
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: throughout society. And it's not just in schools, it's everywhere.

957
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: When you go to your pediatrician's office and you say

958
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: that you know, my kid is having some gender questions,

959
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: the pediatrician has only one line that they're allowed to

960
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: deliver to you, and that's to absolutely confirm that that

961
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: child is probably trans and that and to affirm their

962
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: new identity. And that's a crazy way to behave and

963
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: no normal society should be accepting this. The book is

964
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Speaker 1: Stolen Youth, How radicals are racing innocence and in doctrinating

965
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Speaker 1: a generation. Go Google and go pick up your copy

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