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Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the Clay,

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Bucks.

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Speaker 3: We are joined now by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: who wanted to react to a story that came out

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Speaker 3: in the Wall Street Journal that said that Democrat Senator

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Speaker 3: Tammy Baldwin was getting really nervous because she saw Trump

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Speaker 3: up three in her internal polling, because Eric Covedy, who's

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Speaker 3: running to try to replace her, was only down two.

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Speaker 3: You know the state of a Wisconsin and what it

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Speaker 3: takes to win senator better than almost anybody. Thanks for

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Speaker 3: giving us the time. What are you seeing on the

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Speaker 3: ground and what's likely to be a very close race, Well,

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Speaker 3: a lot of enthusiasm for President Trump and Eric Covedy

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Speaker 3: and our Republican canvas up and down the ballot.

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Speaker 4: Let's face it, when a canadaate releases internal polls that

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Speaker 4: aren't good, I mean that's a sign of desperation, it's

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Speaker 4: a cry for help. And so that's a very good sign.

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Speaker 4: But we take nothing for granted. You know, all these

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Speaker 4: polls to show big margins in Wisconsin, they're always wrong

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Speaker 4: because Wisconsin is a very purple state. I would say

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Speaker 4: more trending blue quite honestly, when you take a look

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Speaker 4: at the you know the history of statewide races. But

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Speaker 4: in this case, I'm believing that it is shifting, primarily

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Speaker 4: because Republicans now are viewed as the party of the

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Speaker 4: working men and women of this country. I was at

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Speaker 4: the Trump rally in Dodge County and I had a

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Speaker 4: great conversation with a pretty good group of UAW union

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Speaker 4: members and they were incredibly enthusiastic. I mean, you know

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Speaker 4: what going to Trump rallies like, right, I mean you

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Speaker 4: got yeah, Dan spend a lot of time in line.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a eight, nine, ten, twelve hour

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Speaker 4: day attending and they were happy to do it. So no,

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Speaker 4: this is you know, if the Cook report has this

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Speaker 4: race to toss up. I appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 4: Eric Hubday needs your support. Erichobday dot com. Pammy Baldwin's

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Speaker 4: entire campaign is just a smear, just lying about an

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Speaker 4: extraordinary individual, a serial entrepreneur has taken his success set

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Speaker 4: up the Eric hub Day Foundation, which has built shelters

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Speaker 4: for trafficked children all around the world, and yet Tammy

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Speaker 4: Balden rather than run on her record because she has none. All.

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Speaker 4: Her campaign is just a bunch of livees. Let's face it,

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Speaker 4: like every other Democrat candidate running for national officer right

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Speaker 4: now is just a pack of lives. So again, erichobday

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Speaker 4: dot com. He needs support nationally. This is entirely winnable.

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Speaker 4: He needs the resource to refute all the lives.

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Speaker 3: You have won a couple of races that it came

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Speaker 3: down to the absolute nitty gritty. Twenty sixteen, I think

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Speaker 3: they stop spending money on your behalf. You won twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two, you won by I think you can correct me,

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Speaker 3: like twenty five thousand roughly votes. What does in your

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Speaker 3: mind Trump and Huvedy need to do to win the

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Speaker 3: Senate seat and take control of the Senate back, because

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Speaker 3: make no mistake, that would do it, and also to

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Speaker 3: win back the presidency. Where is this race to you

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Speaker 3: likely to be decided?

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Speaker 4: Ground game? Ground game, ground game. That's always been true.

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Speaker 4: Democrats have the advantage of being able to mine their

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Speaker 4: votes in Milwaukee, Madison, a couple other areas. Republicans we

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Speaker 4: have to mind votes in every little town in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: But that's true. Our advantage because those people in the

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Speaker 4: rural areas, people that are working smaller factories, they realize

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Speaker 4: we are on their side. And so it's all about

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Speaker 4: ground game. We obviously are pushing early voting. I mean,

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Speaker 4: listen to your show for those exact same reasons. In Wisconsin,

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Speaker 4: we could have the miserable day on election day, right,

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Speaker 4: So we don't want to be ahead on an election day,

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Speaker 4: and normally we're a few hundred thousand votes behind. We

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Speaker 4: want to be ahead, and as you've been reinforcing, that

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Speaker 4: allows us to concentrate all of our get out to

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Speaker 4: vote efforts on the low propensity voters who will decide

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Speaker 4: to see elections. So if you're going to vote anyway,

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Speaker 4: vote early, get it done. We don't have to waste

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Speaker 4: our time and resources, you know, calling you up encourage

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Speaker 4: you to vote. So it's all about ground game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and let me reemphasize that too, because look, I'm

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Speaker 3: people don't really pay attention to the weather. But in Nevada,

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Speaker 3: you know this, the fate of the Senate may well

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Speaker 3: northern Nevada and drove down turnout. Where you are in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: the weather can flip in a hurry. Michigan, Pennsylvania, places

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Speaker 3: where the weather come early November. I mean, you could

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Speaker 3: speak to it way better than I can. But anybody

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know Trump's first rally in Green Bay

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Speaker 4: in April it was miserable. We got three or four

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Speaker 4: were so terrible. So no prime example. We have to

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Speaker 4: get out and we've got to vote early and again

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Speaker 4: support Eric Hoveday erichoveday dot com because one of the

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Speaker 4: things I've been promoting is trip up elections, making sure

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Speaker 4: Those folks run their campaign, they get their sick, you know,

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Speaker 4: They're gonna vote for people up ball as well. So again,

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Speaker 4: this is what we've been doing to the Republican Party Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: This is what the quite honestly, the large donors in

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Speaker 4: Wisconsin been promoting the ground game, early voting. So we've

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Speaker 4: got the game plan. It's about execution.

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Speaker 3: At this point, we're talking to Senator Ron Johnson, who

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Speaker 3: knows better how to win close elections in Wisconsin than

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Speaker 3: probably anybody in the country. You heard that internal poll

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Speaker 3: Kamala I think you were listening, but the Quinnipiac poll

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Speaker 3: just just came out having Trump up in Wisconsin. You

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Speaker 3: say it's a purple state, it's gonna be tight no

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Speaker 3: matter what. You saw what happened in sixteen with Trump,

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Speaker 3: you saw what happened in twenty. How would you compare

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Speaker 3: the on the ground feeling, which admittedly is anecdotal and

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Speaker 4: Well, just compare rallies. You know, I've seen sort of

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Speaker 4: real commitment to do that. It's a lot, a lot

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Speaker 4: of time, a lot of waiting. And you know what's

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Speaker 4: interesting about those Trump rallies. I don't think people really

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Speaker 4: to attend them is you're talking and you're gathering with

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Speaker 4: I mean, it is a phenomenon. I actually feel sorry

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Speaker 4: And you know, again, this is the third year of

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Speaker 4: from my standpoint, the enthusiasm of the Trump rallies is

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Speaker 4: as high, it's not higher than it has ever been.

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Speaker 3: If people are concerned about election integrity in Wisconsin, what

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Speaker 3: would you tell them to do? Because I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you've heard me, Senator, my wife's concerned. She has registered,

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Speaker 3: local jurisdiction. We get these questions all the time. What

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Speaker 4: Well, volunteer to be election observers. You know, I think

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Speaker 4: we'll probably have all those shifts filled, but just in case,

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Speaker 4: we already recruited over five thousand poll workers. Of they've

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Speaker 4: you know, administering the election. So that helped tremendously in

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Speaker 4: we've got that. Unfortunately, we have a Democrat governor who

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Speaker 4: has vetoed all the other election reforms that would have

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Speaker 4: restored confidence in our election system. So again it's really

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Speaker 4: all about having eyes on the process and not. My

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Speaker 4: biggest concern, honestly is illegal immigrants voting. Probably less of

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Speaker 4: the FBI, all these you know, all these federal officials

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Speaker 4: are completely ignoring this and President Biden uses his exective

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Speaker 4: G I'm sure they're doing that a non partisan basis.

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Speaker 4: So that's my biggest concern is this, these millions of

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Speaker 4: So to me, that is the biggest problem that I see.

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: We're talking to Senator Ron Johnson. I want to come

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Speaker 3: back to you saying that a lot of times Republicans

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Speaker 3: so much early voting. They get out the vote, they harvest,

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Speaker 3: they do whatever they can. On the Democrat side, do

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Speaker 3: you think that you're going to see record high early

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Speaker 3: voting from a Republicans And if so, what sort of

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Speaker 3: signs are that are there? And how you said you

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Speaker 3: can get a lot better targeting. But that means on

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Speaker 3: up much more. It's just like a sporting event, right,

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Speaker 4: Well, we've first of all, never had this effort. This,

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Speaker 4: We've never had. This is our primary mission, our primary

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Speaker 4: strategy in an election to early vote. So everybody's signed

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Speaker 4: up for it. You know, the Trump rally, the biggest

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Speaker 4: banner was vote early. Okay, So no, this is something

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Speaker 4: we're pushing again. We have to execute on it. Our

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Speaker 4: repugnants have to you know, follow our directive and get

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Speaker 4: out there and do it. But again, people understand what's

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Speaker 4: at stake. They truly do. They love this country. They're

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Speaker 4: so concerned about what's happened under Democrat governance. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm working tirelessly. I know a lot of people are

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Speaker 4: to actually accomplish this goal.

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Speaker 2: Outstanding stuff.

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Speaker 3: Senator, on your way out one more time, What can

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Speaker 3: people do for Eric Covedy as well?

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Speaker 4: He needs resources to refute all the lives Eric Huveday

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Speaker 4: dot com please flood just campaign with money so he

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Speaker 4: can again win this this very winnable Senate seat.

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Speaker 3: Very winnable. Indeed, could put Senator Ron Johnson back in

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Speaker 3: the majority. Could make a tremendous difference for the country.

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Speaker 3: Everybody in Wisconsin, listen to us, get out and vote,

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Speaker 3: Get out and vote early, Take friends and family to

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Speaker 3: the polls.

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Speaker 2: Senator, we appreciate you, say, well, take care of thanks.

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean Ron Johnson knows better than anybody how

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Speaker 3: to win close races, and I'm telling you he wanted

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Speaker 3: to come on and he wanted you guys to know.

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Speaker 3: Eric Covedy can win. And my goodness, if Tammy Baldwin lose,

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Speaker 3: it is and Donald Trump wins. We are the number

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Speaker 3: one show in Milwaukee right now. You guys in Wisconsin

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Speaker 3: have the ability to deliver the United States Senate and

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Speaker 3: the presidency to the Republican Party. We just spend an

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Speaker 3: awesome time with y'all up for the Republican National Convention.

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Speaker 3: I am telling you the momentum is there. You just

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Speaker 3: heard me talk about the Quinnipiac polls. Get out and

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Speaker 2: The weather.

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Speaker 3: You guys know way better than me that the weather

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Speaker 2: She knows it.

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Speaker 3: You guys can make this happen. I can feel it.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to twenty the Year of Impact with

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Speaker 3: We're joined now by man we hope it's the next

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, thanks thanks for having me. You know, I

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Speaker 5: But what's happening is Pennsylvania is getting to know Kamala

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Speaker 5: President Trump is here all the time, he was, did

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Speaker 5: This is a guy who who, when the bullet starts flying,

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Speaker 6: How much are you seeing I mean, I think you're

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Speaker 2: Including you.

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Speaker 6: Looks like you're really close to being able to pull

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Speaker 6: The more upset they are, the happier we are. Are

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Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 5: Well, the starting point is just you know, they have

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Speaker 5: Finance candidate, and I'll be outspent by one hundred million

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Speaker 5: It may seem small, but in Pennsylvania it's big. Bob

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Speaker 5: The dairy farmers in particular hate him because he's not

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Speaker 5: And just last week he flip foffed on this issue.

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Speaker 4: He's flip flopped.

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Speaker 5: On many issues. He's all of a sudden a strong

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Speaker 5: without ever banning fracking. You just have regulations and red

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Speaker 8: This in wrestling.

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Speaker 5: I know, I wrestled in college. I was the K

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Speaker 5: I'd win, Because the third period is not about wrestling.

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Speaker 5: It's about mental toughness, it's about heart, it's about staying

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Speaker 3: You absolutely rocked him. I watched the debate. I thought

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Speaker 3: you did a fantastic job. I'd encourage people to check

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Speaker 3: it out if they haven't. I'm coming up with you.

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Speaker 3: I know you've got a billion events between now and then,

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Speaker 5: There are events, and there are events. This is Clay Travis,

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Speaker 5: Penn State, Ohio State, a white out, a huge tailgate,

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Speaker 3: So people out there who are college football fans and

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Speaker 5: I know Senator Sullivan knows the same thing. When one

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Speaker 5: more than anything Else's strained. Second reaction was I sat

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Speaker 5: But it was also just you know, a family that

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Speaker 6: Speaking to Dave McCormick, he's running for a critical Senate

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Speaker 6: this election, it seems, by far, across the board, both

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Speaker 6: Tell me this, though, when you do you come across,

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Speaker 6: When you come across, I'm sure you do, because you're

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Speaker 6: you have this. What do they need to know or

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Speaker 7: Do you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 6: Like, when you come across one of these undecideds, what

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Speaker 5: I think it's I'm still you know, I'm running against

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Speaker 5: they should take a chance on new leadership.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Dave McCormick.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious in Pennsylvania political circles Democrat, Republican, Independent, are

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Speaker 3: there people starting to look around saying what in the

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Speaker 3: world was Kamma of thinking picking Tim Walls instead of

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Speaker 3: potentially Josh Shapiro the governor there, because there have to

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Speaker 3: be you have to come across not only at a

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Speaker 3: buck's point people who are trying to decide how they're

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Speaker 3: going to vote, but even Democrats have to be a

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Speaker 3: little bit panicked right now with what they're seeing right.

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Speaker 5: Well, totally Well, i'd say center Sliv and I were

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Speaker 5: just talking about that. I'd say two things. One, just

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Speaker 5: as a political matter, I think it was a bad calculus.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think governorship he who He and I

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Speaker 5: have a number of disagreements, but he's a very able

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Speaker 5: person and he would have been very strong in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 5: and he's very very strong nationally in supporting that ticket.

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Speaker 8: But I think it says a lot about the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 5: I think it's impossible to imagine that the fact that

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Speaker 5: Governor Shapiro's Jewish didn't factor into her thinking, Yeah, because

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Speaker 5: she did not want to alienate the extreme elements of

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Speaker 5: her party. And I think that's really all you need

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Speaker 5: to know about where that party is and what kind

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Speaker 5: of decision maker she is that she wouldn't pick someone

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Speaker 5: who's far more able and far more capable of stepping

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Speaker 5: into the presidency than what Governor Waltsh is demonstrating every day,

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Speaker 5: which is he's just in over his head. This is

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Speaker 5: not a guy who's ready to assume the mantol of leadership.

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Speaker 5: And certainly that couple with Kamala Harris, who's proving in

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Speaker 5: every day with every interview, that she's not capable of

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Speaker 5: taking the mandol leadership. I think it was a miscalculation

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Speaker 5: that showed weakness and moral.

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Speaker 2: Failure, no doubt.

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Speaker 6: Look what in the very end here, Dave, we got

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Speaker 6: a few weeks, We've got you know, the ballots are

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Speaker 6: already being filled out, sent in all this stuff in

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Speaker 6: different states. What can people do? We have a lot

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Speaker 6: of listeners in Pennsylvania. We could have just taken an

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Speaker 6: hour of calls, the first hour of people calling in

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Speaker 6: from Pennsylvania. What can people do to help both push

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Speaker 6: you President Trump and other Republicans across the finish line here?

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Speaker 5: Well, first, when I talk about me and my race,

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Speaker 5: everything you do for me and other candidates really helps

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Speaker 5: us up and down the ballots. It's a team sport.

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Speaker 5: And so I'm so grateful for all the support that

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Speaker 5: we're getting. And we got to have a big turnout,

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Speaker 5: and so for you listening, you must vote. You can't

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Speaker 5: not vote, that's the first thing. But you got to

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Speaker 5: get other people to vote, people to register, people to

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Speaker 5: get out there, people to submit their ballots early, not

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Speaker 5: take a risk of bad weather that day, and convince

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Speaker 5: people who are Republicans to get out there, and convince

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Speaker 5: people that are independents or Demoocrats who aren't you know,

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Speaker 5: who are on the fence that we need a good,

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Speaker 5: good leadership to take us forward. I'm a Republican, I'm

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Speaker 5: a conservative, but I'm running to represent all Pennsylvanians, and

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Speaker 5: uh we need leadership and change. And these these problems, uh,

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Speaker 5: the sky high prices, the fentanyl crisis, the war on

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Speaker 5: fossil fuse, these are these are problems that affect every

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Speaker 5: single Pennsylvanian and uh so I'm hoping we can get

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Speaker 5: people listening today to be energized again. Dave MCCORMICKPA dot

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Speaker 5: com for details about my campaign, my positions, an opportunity

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Speaker 5: to volunteer there for people want to volunteer. But we

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Speaker 5: got it. We got to energize our voters because this

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Speaker 5: is the most important election of our lifetimes.

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Speaker 3: Dave MCCORMICKPA dot com. You just heard it there. I

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Speaker 3: will be with him in PA in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: We may need to get you on again before that,

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Speaker 3: but certainly I look forward to seeing you in State College,

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Speaker 3: PA for that big game and helping to to also

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Speaker 3: win back the country.

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Speaker 2: Keep up the good work.

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Speaker 5: Thanks guys, Thanks thank for having me.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four the Most Important Tier in

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Speaker 1: Politics with Clay Travis and Box Sexton.

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Speaker 3: We are joined now by Senator Ricketts of the Great

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Speaker 3: State of Nebraska and Senator I think this is the

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Speaker 3: first time you've been on with us. Appreciate you making

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Speaker 3: the time. I want to start with a question that

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Speaker 3: is extremely local in scope but could have major national residents,

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Speaker 3: and that is what do you think happens in Omaha?

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Speaker 3: The one electoral vote there? We got a lot of

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Speaker 3: people listening on kfab We love you in Omaha at

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Speaker 3: a fabulous time at the College World Series.

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Speaker 2: Great group of people. What are you seeing their?

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Speaker 3: Senator, how does that shake out not only in the

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Speaker 3: electoral college but also I think there's a toss up

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Speaker 3: congressional race there.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely for your listeners may not be aware the

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Speaker 8: Seon Congressional District in Omaha is also at standalone electoral

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Speaker 8: College vote because of frankly, a partisan move by Democrats

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Speaker 8: back in the nineteen nineties to split up our electoral

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Speaker 8: College votes by congressional district. So if you win the

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Speaker 8: state overall, you get two electoral college votes, and then

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Speaker 8: every congressional district stands alone. You have to win that individually.

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Speaker 8: And President Trump won this district in twenty sixteen but

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Speaker 8: lost it in twenty twenty, and so it just shows you,

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Speaker 8: I mean, in just in general, this district is very

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Speaker 8: it's like one of the few purple districts left in

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Speaker 8: the country. It's split very fifty to fifty. So it's

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Speaker 8: always a tough congressional seat. So Don Bacon, my congressman,

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Speaker 8: is always has a tough race. He won it by

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Speaker 8: two points last time around in twenty two and it's

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Speaker 8: going to be a tough race again this year for him,

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Speaker 8: and it's going to be a tough race for President

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Speaker 8: Trump as well, So it's definitely going to be a challenge.

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Speaker 7: Senator Ricketts, appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 6: The Republicans had a chance to change the situation of

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Speaker 6: the Omaha district and didn't.

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Speaker 7: Is that correct? And what I mean, what can you

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Speaker 7: tell us about that?

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Speaker 6: Because for a lot of people, it's they have the

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Speaker 6: power to change it. It was a partisan move when

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Speaker 6: Democrats did it. Why not set it right and put

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Speaker 6: it in line with a vast majority of the rest

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Speaker 6: of states.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, Well, that's something that we tried when I was governor.

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Speaker 8: We attempted to do it every year I was governor,

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Speaker 8: tried to get a change back to winter take call,

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Speaker 8: which is what forty eight other states do, and we

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Speaker 8: always got blocked by the Democrats. So in our one

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Speaker 8: house legislature, we have a fillbuster rule, so you need

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Speaker 8: to get thirty three of the forty nine centers to

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Speaker 8: pass anything that's controversial, and the Democrats always had enough

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Speaker 8: votes to be able to block us from getting it

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Speaker 8: done when I was governor. And sadly it's the same

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Speaker 8: thing with Governor Pillan. We did have a Democrat reregistered

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Speaker 8: as a Republican, but he basically changed his party registration.

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Speaker 8: It's not a philosophy, and so he would not go

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Speaker 8: along and put out a letter saying he was not

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Speaker 8: going to vote for winner take Call, and so we

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Speaker 8: did not have the thirty three votes we needed to

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Speaker 8: be able to get that change this year. Something we're

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Speaker 8: going to have to keep trying and just work.

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Speaker 6: Wait, that's that's really important, because I haven't heard that

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Speaker 6: said anywhere. You basically have a stealth Democrat with an

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Speaker 6: R by his name who is blocking the change to

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Speaker 6: a winner take all electoral college in Nebraska, and that

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Speaker 6: sounds like what's going on here, Well, he's.

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Speaker 8: Not a stealth Democrat. Everybody knows he's a Democrat.

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Speaker 6: Well, well, yeah, you guys all know. The rest of

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Speaker 6: the country, though, is all thinking, wait, a Republican blocked this?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, well from that stan point, Yeah, but he

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Speaker 8: just reregisters al you as a Republican this year. So

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Speaker 8: it was not like a you know, he did this

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Speaker 8: a while ago. And when I was governor, for example,

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Speaker 8: I served with him, he was in the legislature, and

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Speaker 8: he was always a Democrat when I was there, So

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Speaker 8: again it was not shocking. We made a run at him,

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Speaker 8: try to get him to go along with it, but

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Speaker 8: as I said, he'd like changed his party registration, but

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Speaker 8: not a philosophy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's go in.

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Speaker 3: We also have a big Senate race and for people

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Speaker 3: who may not be paying a lot of attention. I

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Speaker 3: know a lot of our audience is. But in Nebraska

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Speaker 3: you can speak to this.

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Speaker 2: You know the.

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Speaker 3: Difference between being the majority and the minority, huge difference.

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Speaker 3: West Virginia is going to flip. Thank you West Virginians. Ohio.

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Speaker 3: Bernie Marino is looking like he has a really good

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Speaker 3: chance of beating Sharad Brown. Tim Shah, who we've had

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Speaker 3: on the show quite a lot, is looking very good

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Speaker 3: to beat. John Tester got competitive races in Pennsylvania, Michigan,

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Speaker 3: and Wisconsin that could be going our way. What about Nebraska?

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Speaker 3: What do people need to know there? And what is

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Speaker 3: the difference between my majority and minority from your perspective?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I am actually in cycled. So my story

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Speaker 8: is that I was governor from twenty fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 8: twenty three, and then Ben SaaS stepped down as our

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Speaker 8: junior senator, and Governor Pillen appointed me to the position.

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Speaker 8: So I'm running in a special election this year to

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Speaker 8: be able to finish out the last two years of

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Speaker 8: Ben Sasa's term, and then would have to run again

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Speaker 8: in twenty twenty six for a six year term, and

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Speaker 8: then the regular cycle deb Fisher is up for election,

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Speaker 8: so we actually have both our Senate seats are up

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Speaker 8: in Nebraska this year, Okay, and dev has a tough

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Speaker 8: race because she's running against an independent who has got

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Speaker 8: Sorow's money behind her. He's out spending her on TV

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Speaker 8: two to one, and all the public polling I've seen

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Speaker 8: shows that they're pretty much in a dead heat right now.

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Speaker 8: So we got to work to get the word out

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Speaker 8: to all Republicans say, hey, you got to vote for

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Speaker 8: deb Fisher. This guy, Dan Osborne is an independent, but

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Speaker 8: he's really a Democrat. He's getting you know, Acblue is

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Speaker 8: behind him. He was in Hollywood last week raising money.

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Speaker 8: I mentioned the Soro's money already. I mean, this is

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Speaker 8: the profile of a Democrat, right and he's gonna even

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Speaker 8: though he hasn't said, I'm quite certain he's going to

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Speaker 8: caut us with the Democrats. So to your point about

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Speaker 8: getting control of the Senate, it would make it that

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Speaker 8: much harder if dan Osmann were to win. So we

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Speaker 8: need deb Fisher within and she just has to get

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Speaker 8: out there. We need to get Republicans on board. We

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Speaker 8: need to get republic to you know, come back to

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Speaker 8: the Republican party, And remember that Deb is the conservative

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Speaker 8: Republican in this race, not Dan Osborne. He may have

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Speaker 8: some nice slick commercials where he talks about being independent,

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Speaker 8: but at the end of the day, we need to

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Speaker 8: make sure that we're taking control of the Senate for

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Speaker 8: two reasons. One either to God forbid Harris gets elected,

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Speaker 8: be a firewall against the crazy things she's going to

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Speaker 8: want to do. Or in the case that we get

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Speaker 8: President Trump elected, we need to move fast to be

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Speaker 8: able to work on his agenda and quickly undo all

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Speaker 8: the damage that Biden Harris administration is done and do

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Speaker 8: things like get the twenty seventeen tax cuts, you know,

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Speaker 8: reupt and we need to make sure we'll get his

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Speaker 8: people confirm, you know, get his cabinet members in. So

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Speaker 8: this is a big deal and Republicans of Nebraska really

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Speaker 8: need to, you know, make sure that they're voting for

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Speaker 8: Deb Fisher and turn out and vote because this is

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Speaker 8: this is an important part of the election.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of the Senator Ricketts of Nebraska, Senator, this is fascinating.

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Speaker 6: You know, we have seen very much coverage at all

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Speaker 6: of what's going on here in the Senate races that

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Speaker 6: you've been You've been talking about. And I got to say,

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Speaker 6: is this is this one of these moments where the

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Speaker 6: national level GOP and even more right leading media just

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Speaker 6: a little little uh asleep at the wheel on this one.

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Speaker 6: It sounds like you got Sorow, a Soros back Democrat

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Speaker 6: pretending to be an independent, trying to steal what should

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Speaker 6: be a very winnable Senate seed. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 6: something we got to raise the alarm over.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, it's something that we certainly has kind of

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Speaker 8: actually come upon us relatively quickly, like within the last

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Speaker 8: six weeks or so, because that's because that's when Osma's

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Speaker 8: been dumping money in the race. I mean he's out

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Speaker 8: spending Depth two to one, and we always get outspent

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Speaker 8: on the air, right in most of these competitive races,

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Speaker 8: Democrats always have more money. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 8: party of the rich elites, so they're getting all the

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Speaker 8: sorrows money and you know, Tom Steyer and everybody else.

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Speaker 8: And in this case, you know, the thing to remember

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Speaker 8: about Nebraska is we're also very populist and we've had

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Speaker 8: that history here for one hundred years. So when somebody

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Speaker 8: comes along and he's got the nice slick ad and

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Speaker 8: says he's an independent that does appeal to Nebraskans. And

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Speaker 8: that's why we've got to remind, especially our conservative Republicans,

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Speaker 8: that you can't be fooled by this guy's ads. We

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Speaker 8: need to vote for the conservative Republican and that is

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Speaker 8: Deubb Fisher. It's not going to be the other guy.

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Speaker 8: And of course the osmoren Nane is very popular here

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Speaker 8: in Nebraska because Tom Osborne, you know, got us some

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Speaker 8: national championship back in the nineteen nineties in football.

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Speaker 4: But this is the guy that's not related.

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Speaker 8: It's not anybody related.

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Speaker 2: That's actually super important.

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Speaker 3: Again, it goes to me trusting college football fans more

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Speaker 3: than anyone. You guys are having a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a resurgence with the Nebraska Cornhusker program.

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Speaker 2: Big game coming up soon.

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Speaker 3: I think you're what five and one or four and one,

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Speaker 3: only one loss to Illinois one.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're five and one actually looking pretty good at

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Speaker 8: the Big Ten right now, and we got Indiana coming

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Speaker 8: up in a couple of weeks, so that's gonna be

693
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Speaker 8: a big game. We win that game, then will be

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Speaker 8: bowled for the first time in a long time. So

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Speaker 8: we're really excited.

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Speaker 3: This year, all of that rolling together. So again, like

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Speaker 3: just to kind of bring it home, you've got people

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Speaker 3: who are not actually in the best interest of the

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00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 3: country trying basically, i'll say it, to steal a race

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Speaker 3: that would not be winnable if this guy were running

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Speaker 3: as a Democrat, because I think you would acknowledge and

702
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Speaker 3: probably recognize too, the Democrat brand in the heartland is

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Speaker 3: really toxic. So they're trying to do this sneakily by

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Speaker 3: running this guy as an independent. I think that's important

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Speaker 3: for Nebraskans to know.

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Speaker 8: That is important for Nebraska's to know. In fact, the

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Speaker 8: Democrats have said this that they think the way to

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Speaker 8: win in red states is by running an independent, and

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Speaker 8: they're trying it here in Nebraska. And what we have

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Speaker 8: to do is show them, no, this is a bad idea.

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Speaker 8: You're not actually going to be able to win in

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Speaker 8: states like Nebraska because we actually are conservative. And to

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Speaker 8: your point, the Democrats have gone so far left. If

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Speaker 8: you look back in the nineteen nineties here in Nebraska,

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Speaker 8: all of our state would elected offices. We're actually Democrats. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: and the Democrats have gone so far left with the

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Speaker 8: things they're doing. You know, they want abortion up until

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Speaker 8: the moment of birth. That's what this guy is running against,

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Speaker 8: my congressman, you know, is doing. He wants abortion up

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Speaker 8: in the moment birth, won't say when he would cut

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Speaker 8: off abortion. They're just crazy radical on that. And we

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Speaker 8: know all the like boys playing girls sports. And of

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Speaker 8: course the spending is just out of control, the weakness

724
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Speaker 8: they show on the international stage, inflation, the open southern border,

725
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Speaker 8: I mean, all these things that Democrats are doing are

726
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Speaker 8: just not what Nebraskans want. And that's what you're going

727
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Speaker 8: to get with Dan Osborne if you if you vote

728
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Speaker 8: for him, that you're going to get high prices and

729
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 8: open borders, which is what this administration has been all about.

730
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Speaker 8: You know, Harris has been all about this open border,

731
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Speaker 8: high prices, like, don't vote for more of that with

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Speaker 8: this guy who's exciting independent, is really a Democrat.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, then, Senator, we appreciate it, and good luck

734
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Speaker 3: to the corn Huskers getting Bowl eligible and fighting their

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Speaker 3: way potentially into some big ten competent. A lot of

736
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Speaker 3: fun to watch them resurging. But remember this is not

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Speaker 3: Tom Osborne's relative, this is not your daddy's Nebraska Cornhusker connection.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the time.

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Speaker 8: Great, thanks a lot, appreiate it, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 6: I know I've been very impressed by the corn Husker defense.

741
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Speaker 6: Clay also the offense.

742
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Speaker 7: Very good.

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Speaker 3: You're wearing your red because you knew we were talking

744
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: to Nebraska Cornhusker fans today. It was particular with that's

745
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: I think the first visit from from a senator from

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Speaker 3: Nebraska on the program.

747
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Speaker 2: So we'll do whatever we can to help.

748
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Speaker 6: I know that Senate race issue that have you heard

749
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 6: that honestly talked about on any shows anywhere? Trying to

750
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 6: hide a seat playing site. That's exactly they're They're doing

751
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 6: it quietly because that's how they know they could pull

752
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 6: it off, because there's no way that a Republican shouldn't

753
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 6: win a Senate seat statewide race in Nebraska. Well, you

754
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 6: know they're very sneaky. Soros money in there, the whole thing.

755
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Speaker 3: Be careful again, just ask the question, who are you

756
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: going to caucus with independence? In states like Nebraska, they

757
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: run as independence. Is what Joe Manchin did, This is

758
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: what Kirsten Cinema did. They eventually said, oh, I'm an independent,

759
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: but they continue to caucus with the Democrats. Well, an

760
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: independent who caucuses with the Democrat is a Democrat. Don't

761
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Speaker 3: let them hide from you what they are trying to

762
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Speaker 3: sneak by. Again, we got the huge audience in Kfab

763
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Speaker 3: listening to us right now in Omaha. That electoral college

764
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: seat matters potentially a great deal, that is that one

765
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: electoral vote. But my goodness, just pay attention to what

766
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 3: they're trying to it's a fast one that they're trying

767
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Speaker 3: to slip past you there.

768
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Speaker 1: If you're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact

769
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 1: with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 3: We are joined now by Sean Parnell, who was at

771
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: the massive Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania that ended July

772
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: thirteenth with a assassination attempt. Trump went back, had an

773
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: unbelievable crowd. Now get to that in a second, But first, Sean,

774
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 3: have you recovered from Dak Prescott's late touchdown pass last

775
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 3: night to beat your beloved Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh?

776
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 9: You know, I knew you were gonna lead off with

777
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 9: a question like that, and I'll tell you it was

778
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 9: a rough night here in Fort Parnell, because not only

779
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 9: did the Steelers fall to three and two, backsliding two

780
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 9: straight losses with Justin Fields at quarterback. But the Impeachables

781
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 9: my fantasy team unless Kareem Hunt comes off the bench

782
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 9: tonight for Monday Night Football and turns in a fifty

783
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 9: point game. Yes, it looks like the Impeachables are going

784
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 9: to fall to three and two as well. Not good,

785
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 9: not good.

786
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Speaker 3: I'm in a tough spot in my fantasy league as well.

787
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: Anita some miracles to fight and I'm gonna fall to

788
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: three and two also. But let me get okay, that

789
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: is out there. Sorry for all the Steelers fans out there,

790
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: I had to hear about that. But let's go to

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Speaker 3: the rally itself. I believe you spoke there. What was

792
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: the what was the environment like? What did it feel like?

793
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Speaker 3: Take us for those of us who were not there,

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Speaker 3: which the vast majority of listeners into that experience.

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Speaker 9: Well, I have to say it was. It was crazy

796
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Speaker 9: and it was surreal to be back there. I did

797
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Speaker 9: a walk through the night before and I'll tell you

798
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Speaker 9: and for all the listeners, the setup was a little

799
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 9: bit different. But President Trump was absolutely insistent on that

800
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Speaker 9: stage being in the exact same location, and I think

801
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Speaker 9: that's because he wanted to send a message to the

802
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 9: people of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that we're not finished yet.

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Speaker 9: He wanted to make good on his commitment to them,

804
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Speaker 9: but he also wanted to send a message to our enemies,

805
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 9: you know, both here and abroad, that as Americans, we

806
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 9: don't bend the need to fear, we don't bend the

807
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 9: need to tyranny, and come hell or high water. President

808
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 9: Trump was standing on that stage and finishing what he started,

809
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Speaker 9: and I have to say I have a ton of

810
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 9: respect for that man for doing it, because you know,

811
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Speaker 9: I wasn't crazy, and I know my wife wasn't crazy

812
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 9: about going back to that place, but we felt like

813
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 9: we had to go back there because we had a

814
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 9: duty to go there, and President Trump clearly felt the

815
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Speaker 9: same way.

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Speaker 7: Sewn. I always appreciate you being with us.

817
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 6: Battleground Live podcast is on the Clay and Buck feed

818
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 6: for everybody listening. And also we're gonna have Sean filling

819
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 6: in on this show around Thanksgiving time, So Sean, you're

820
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 6: going to be in charge for all three hours at

821
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Speaker 6: the con.

822
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Speaker 7: My friend, it's going to be exciting.

823
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Speaker 6: In the meantime, What were some of the biggest takeaways

824
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Speaker 6: from just that day and also President Trump's speech and

825
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Speaker 6: and all of all of which you were able to

826
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Speaker 6: gather together. I mean a lot of us weren't able

827
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Speaker 6: to be there. So what what what did you walk

828
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 6: away thinking and feeling?

829
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 9: It was absolutely exhilarating on so many levels because it

831
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Speaker 9: was just one historic moment after the next.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm sitting there in the crowd and I hear, you.

833
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Speaker 9: Know, God blessed the USA, right the Trump the song

834
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 9: that Lee Greenwood song that Trump walks out to, and

835
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 9: I'm thinking, dang, this sounds really good. And Lee Greenwood

836
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Speaker 9: walks out on stage ten feet in front of me.

837
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Speaker 9: He's saluting Trump, and I'm like, dang, this guy knows

838
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Speaker 9: how to entertain. And of course, much of what Trump

839
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Speaker 9: talked about, especially in the early phases of his speech,

840
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 9: was Corey Coppertore's family and the other folks in the

841
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Speaker 9: Commonwealth of Pennsylvania who were wounded, and He's got this opera

842
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 9: singer coming out and everything else. And then there was

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Speaker 9: a woman at one point Buck and Clay up in

844
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Speaker 9: the stands who had a medical emergency. President Trump stopped

845
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Speaker 9: his speech in the middle of that, and then one

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Speaker 9: hundred thousand people spur of the moment started singing the

847
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Speaker 9: Star Spangled Banner. It was just it was just an

848
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Speaker 9: unbelievably powerful moment and a powerful night on so many levels.

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Speaker 9: And again, not just a testament to President Trump's toughness,

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Speaker 9: but a testament to the character of the people of

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Speaker 9: Commonwealth of Pencil Venue who also wanted to show up

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Speaker 9: that day to send a message that we're not afraid

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Speaker 9: and you know, we're going to be heard. And it

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00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 9: was just I have to tell you both, it was

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Speaker 9: amazing to be on that stage and look out over

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Speaker 9: what was definitely one hundred thousand people and like, look,

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Speaker 9: I was on stage with President Trump five days before

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Speaker 9: the November twenty twenty election in Butler County almost at

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Speaker 9: the same location, sixty five thousand people there. This was

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Speaker 9: this was different. There was something in the air that

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Speaker 9: was special.

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Speaker 7: And it just leads me.

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Speaker 9: To feel real, real good about the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

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Speaker 9: in this election cycle.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's dive into that, because you know Pennsylvania really well.

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Speaker 3: We're talking to Sean Parnell. Encourage you to listen to

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Speaker 3: his podcast as part of the Clay and Buck podcast

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Speaker 3: and Network twenty sixteen. It was an earthquake that Trump

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Speaker 3: won Pennsylvania in the political class twenty twenty, they pulled

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Speaker 3: out all the stops to try to find a way

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Speaker 3: to win it back. The absentee ballot request were through

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Speaker 3: the roof. In terms of data, what I have seen,

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Speaker 3: Sean is that the enthusiasm for Democrats when it comes

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Speaker 3: to absentee ballot request nowhere near.

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Speaker 2: What it was in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: And for people out there who say, well, there's not

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Speaker 3: a COVID going on, people are going to vote in

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Speaker 3: person more Republicans have actually had similar numbers when it

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Speaker 3: comes to absentee ballot requests in both twenty twenty and

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. So that would cut against that argument.

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Speaker 3: What are you seeing on the ground, what do you feel,

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Speaker 3: and what from a data perspective does the math look

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Speaker 3: like to you?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Okay, So first of all, I've said here on

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Speaker 9: this show before that Pennsylvania is a state that closes

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Speaker 9: late and closes fast, and now you're seeing that play out. Well,

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Speaker 9: so what does that really mean? Well, look, Democrats can

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Speaker 9: win this state without a single Republican vote. Now we've

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Speaker 9: closed the voter registration deficit in Pennsylvania, by over fifty percent,

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Speaker 9: six hundred and fifty thousand plus more Democrats in twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty then there were Republicans. That number is now three

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Speaker 9: hundred and twenty five thousand more Democrats than Republicans. Still

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Speaker 9: a big number, right, But the point is is that

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Speaker 9: we are we are. In order for Republicans to win

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Speaker 9: this state, you've got to win moderate Democrats, and you've

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Speaker 9: got to sway independence. Every single pole that I've seen,

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Speaker 9: not just between Trump and Harris and Pennsylvania, but especially

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Speaker 9: between McCormick and Casey, has shown probably two months ago

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Speaker 9: McCormick down anywhere between seven and ten points in Pennsylvania

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Speaker 9: will now in almost every single pole they're tied. And

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Speaker 9: that tells me that moderate Democrats and independents are breaking Republicans.

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Speaker 9: So the state is closing lateness, closing fast as it

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Speaker 9: typically does. Another thing that I need people to pay

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Speaker 9: attention to is look at the counties of Erie, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 9: which is in the northwest of Pennsylvania, and Northampton, which

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Speaker 9: is in the northeast of Pennsylvania. Those are two blue

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Speaker 9: collar union Democrat counties. They are the bell weather of

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Speaker 9: the state of Pennsylvania, and President Trump is up in

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Speaker 9: these two Bellweather counties on not just the top line polling,

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Speaker 9: but on all of the issues. From the border, he's

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Speaker 9: up fifteen. On inflation, he's up seven. On the economy

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Speaker 9: in general, he's up six. So issue after issue after

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Speaker 9: issue in these blue collar union Democrat counties are breaking Trump.

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Speaker 9: And again you see that play out in the polls

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Speaker 9: as well. Clay as well, Buck with Kamala just is suffering.

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Speaker 9: She is hemorrhaging men right. And I cannot see for

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Speaker 9: the life of me, a blue collar union Democrat, somebody

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Speaker 9: who's worked with their hands their entire life in either

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Speaker 9: of those counties saying yeah, I'm gonna vote for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 9: It's just not gonna happen. And last point I'll make

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Speaker 9: about the data. You look at the current mail in

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Speaker 9: request data. Democrats nine hundred and forty five thousand mail

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Speaker 9: in ballot requests, Republicans four hundred and nineteen thousand, Independents

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Speaker 9: one hundred and sixty one hundred and seventy six thousand.

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Speaker 9: Now in twenty twenty, Republicans had six hundred and sixty

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Speaker 9: eight thousand requests five hundred and twenty four thousand returns

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Speaker 9: Democrat Democrats one point six at one point five million returns.

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Speaker 9: So in twenty twenty we lost the vote by mail

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Speaker 9: by nearly one million. But we're actually doing a lot

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Speaker 9: better than we were in twenty twenty because let's say

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Speaker 9: of those one hundred and seventy six thousand independents who

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Speaker 9: have requested a mail in ballot, let's say forty percent

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Speaker 9: of them break our way, we are going to be

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Speaker 9: well over five hundred thousand ballots requested in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 9: which is more than we had in twenty twenty. And Democrats,

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Speaker 9: by contrast, they need that floor of twenty twenty mail

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Speaker 9: in ballots to be successful in that state, and they are.

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Speaker 9: They're not there yet, and at nine hundred and forty

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Speaker 9: five thousand they got to get to one point five

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Speaker 9: million returns. That the clock is ticking, guys, and I

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Speaker 9: just don't think that there's enough time for them to

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Speaker 9: make it up.

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Speaker 6: Sean, what the ground game that Trump has, how is

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Speaker 6: it looking? How is it in these final weeks? And

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Speaker 6: you know you're telling you you're giving us a sense

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Speaker 6: of what spots in the stage should be highlighted to

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Speaker 6: try to bring it across the finish line.

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Speaker 7: But is the infrastructure there, the.

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Speaker 6: Door knocking, the ads on TV, I mean, you know

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Speaker 6: what are you seeing in terms of that?

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Speaker 9: Well, the ads on TV are just the market is

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Speaker 9: absolutely saturated. And it's particularly tough to run ads in

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Speaker 9: Pennsylvania running a state wide campaign because there are five

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Speaker 9: different media markets, whether it's Philadelphia, scrant and York, Pittsburgh, eerie,

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Speaker 9: unbelievably expensive. But yeah, there's a political ad on TV

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Speaker 9: every couple of seconds here. But the ground game for

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Speaker 9: President Trump is really, really, really strong. And again, by contrast,

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Speaker 9: look at Kamala Harris. You don't get the teams to endorsement,

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Speaker 9: you don't get the the endorsement of the National Firefighters Union. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 9: that might be a political hit optically for Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 9: but when they don't endorse, you don't get their infrastructure,

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Speaker 9: you don't get their door knocking, you don't get their

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Speaker 9: ballot chasing, you don't get union organization. And that's gonna

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Speaker 9: hurt her in Pennsylvania. And again you see that in play,

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Speaker 9: you see that playing out in the polls.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 9: So not only are people inclined to I think vote

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Speaker 9: for Trump because they're they're hurting where like on kitchen

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Speaker 9: table issues in their pocketbooks. But Kamala is not going

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Speaker 9: to have the ground game that old scrant And Joe

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Speaker 9: from Pennsylvania had.

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Speaker 7: And you know that's another thing. You know, at the

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Speaker 7: top of the ticket.

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Speaker 9: You know, most people in Pennsylvania that aren't tethered to

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Speaker 9: politics every day are looking at Scranton Joe and saying, hey,

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Speaker 9: he's one of us. Old moderate Joe Biden, you know,

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Speaker 9: works across the aisle. Kamala Harris is not Joe Biden

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Speaker 9: in that regard, and so she's got all sorts of

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Speaker 9: problems in Pennsylvania. I think it's pretty clear now that

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Speaker 9: Kamala has a Pennsylvania problem. But I say all that

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Speaker 9: to say, we've got a campaign, like we're ten points down.

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Speaker 9: We got to sprint across the finish. I mean, all

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Speaker 9: of these things are good, but we're in the execution

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Speaker 9: phase of this election operation and we got to close

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Speaker 9: the deal. We got to get the ball across the

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Speaker 9: goal line.

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Speaker 3: Sean, you making a football analogy, and this is where

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Speaker 3: Buck has said for some time, I automatically trust college

989
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Speaker 3: football fans more, NFL fans more. If you like football,

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Speaker 3: I figure out you can't be that bad of a

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Speaker 3: guy or gal. I just come back, and I know

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Speaker 3: I started with you with the Steelers question. I just

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Speaker 3: come back to what I see on the ground. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you saw me post this, but for

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Speaker 3: the Georgia Alabama game, the sign said, you know, Georgia

996
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Speaker 3: fans love Kamala, and all the Georgia fans on social

997
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Speaker 3: media said some insults just cut too deep. They had

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Speaker 3: a big rally for the College Democrats at the Auburn

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Speaker 3: Georgia game on the campus in Athens. Nobody shows up

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Speaker 3: regular everyday football fans. You see them in Pennsylvania a lot.

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Speaker 3: They're the backbone. I think of much of that blue

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Speaker 3: collar mindset. They're not showing up and voting for Kamala Harrison.

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Speaker 3: And I just think a lot of people are slowly

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Speaker 3: realizing it. And then her outreach. I mean, Sean, how

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Speaker 3: many Steeler fans you think listen to call her daddy

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Speaker 3: Howard Stern and watch Stephen Colebayer, like, how is she

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Speaker 3: going to change their mind going to those outlets.

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Speaker 7: She's not.

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Speaker 9: And you're right, if you go to any sort of

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Speaker 9: SEC game, you know Trump shows up at Alabama Georgia

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Speaker 9: and the crowd goes wild for him. And I think

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Speaker 9: the reason why the crowd goes wild is it people

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Speaker 9: that are attending those college football games. They're just normal.

1014
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Speaker 9: They're not politicals like us, right, They're just normal people.

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Speaker 9: They're really struggling. They look at life three years ago

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Speaker 9: and said, hey, life was pretty great. Three years ago

1017
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Speaker 9: under Trump, it was easier. Life Now it sucks, not

1018
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Speaker 9: just here domestically, but the world is on fire. And

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Speaker 9: I just you cannot see Kamala Harris or or Walls

1020
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Speaker 9: showing up at a college football game and getting nothing

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Speaker 9: but just NonStop.

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Speaker 2: There is It's a great point.

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Speaker 3: There isn't a stadium in America where Kamala Harris could

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Speaker 3: show up and be cheered like Trump is cheered all

1025
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 3: over the country at football games.

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't exist.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, he's and this is why I say

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Speaker 9: he's the most I'm obviously a Trump guy, but this

1029
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Speaker 9: is why I say he's the most electrifying political figure

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Speaker 9: of my lifetime. And I think there's a political underpinning

1031
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Speaker 9: to all of this is that the next generation, these

1032
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Speaker 9: kids that are eighteen to twenty five years old, in

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Speaker 9: many ways, they've been priced out of the American dream

1034
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Speaker 9: that was not so three years ago under Trump, when

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Speaker 9: you have mortgage interest rates at two point five percent,

1036
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Speaker 9: where you could graduate from college, get a job working

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Speaker 9: for maybe forty five fifty grand a year, and afford

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Speaker 9: to buy your first home and earn your way into

1039
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Speaker 9: the American dream. These kids today, they don't have that

1040
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Speaker 9: same opportunity. And we're at risk here in our country,

1041
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Speaker 9: guys of you know, because every parent wants to say

1042
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Speaker 9: to their children, Hey, I want my kids to have

1043
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Speaker 9: a better life than I did. But we're at a

1044
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Speaker 9: point in time in this country where that might not

1045
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Speaker 9: be the case for the first time in a very

1046
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Speaker 9: long time. And I think these kids are waking up

1047
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Speaker 9: to it. And I just think they're not going to

1048
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Speaker 9: be voting for Tim Wallace or Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 6: I think you're everybody, Sean Parnell, go check out Battleground

1050
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Speaker 6: podcast or the Clay Buck Network.

1051
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Speaker 7: How do you listen? You subscribe and you go to.

1052
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 6: The iHeartRadio app, you download that listen there or wherever

1053
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 6: you get your podcast. Shawn, thank you so much, man.

1054
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Speaker 6: Hopefully we'll be having a Pennsylvania victory celebration with you soon.

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Speaker 7: Hopefully take care, guys, hope hopefully.

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Speaker 6: Otherwise, it's gonna be sad. It's gonna be a sad

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Speaker 6: day in Pennsylvania for all of us.