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Speaker 2: Now Will God Zach Kersman with me, Bird Gang go

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Speaker 2: and add Will Johnson's name to the list of Cardinals

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Speaker 2: I spotlight Will and the entire cornerback room, plus give

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Speaker 2: our thoughts on Championship Sunday. But first, the latest on

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Speaker 2: the coaching search as Cardinals Cover two Episode nine seventy

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Poona Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Right at the five hit to the ends up for

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Speaker 2: Here's Craig Grioler, Welcome back. A little bit of an

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Speaker 2: extended break because of the holiday weekend. What hasn't changed though,

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Speaker 2: we've sat in here, And then well, I just saw

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Speaker 2: I'm doing very well as well. I would wish that

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Speaker 2: but we preach patients here on Cardinals Cover two and

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Speaker 2: the latest updates. In fact, there are two updates. Earlier

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Speaker 2: the key distinction here with Campanelli is that, according to reports,

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Speaker 1: We don't have.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Campanelli's name ran down anywhere. We know that this

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Speaker 4: we really want to be patient about. But if you're Michael,

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Speaker 1: To figure out a better way to implement it.

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Speaker 2: Basically, great opportunity and certainly a great great networking opportunity

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Speaker 2: But it's always and they've opened it up now it's

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Speaker 4: God forbid, you have somebody that's sponsored by kit Kat

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Speaker 2: With the it's no longer the race's Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 4: No, when did I miss that press release?

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Speaker 4: See the card or like the sports cards, right, the Paninis.

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Speaker 4: Well, while you researched that, I will go back in

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Izzy Wolfork was the coach during that

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Speaker 2: By the way, the internet is a wonderful tool. Panini

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Speaker 4: Yeah, God forbid, someone signs a Tops deal or a

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Speaker 4: I really need to be more up to date about

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Speaker 2: I believe that when Recei's was the sponsored that they

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Speaker 2: So, so now you're missing out on that. You can't

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Speaker 4: Do they think they make their cards their card manufacturing

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Speaker 2: That you can that you can check out on your own.

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Speaker 2: So again not a surprise that Trey is being selected

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Speaker 2: And I think, though injuries limited what we saw from

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Speaker 4: and he started off one of the first few drives,

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00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 4: had that massive hit where he laid the boom on

437
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 4: Chris Olave and that clip went viral on social media,

438
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 4: and then he had the interception that was negated because

439
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 4: of a penalty. But we all left that game saying, oh,

440
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 4: honors at.

441
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: The end of the year.

442
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 4: Could be very likely for will Johnson if he played

443
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 4: a full stretch of seventeen games fully healthy, I'm sure

444
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 4: he would probably be in that discussion for what a

445
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year from the NFL could could be

446
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 4: for with Will Johnson. But to the same still getting

447
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: some of these honors and recognitions, it's it's a testament

448
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 4: to Will Johnson. I know that the athletic did also

449
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 4: something very similar, and Denzel Burke earned a lot of

450
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 4: praise for for his work. But Will Johnson, I think

451
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 4: you started to see glimpses and flashes of why he

452
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 4: was at first round talent and what he could be

453
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 4: going forward to year one.

454
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Speaker 1: T year two.

455
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: Will's debut gave you a great sense of what he

456
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: potentially could be for a full season. And as you're

457
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: talking about that game in New Orleans, I'm thinking about

458
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: Walter Nolan's debut in Dallas and how Walter flashed and

459
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: again pieces on this team, specifically pieces on this defense,

460
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: draft picks, a second round selection, and Will Johnson a

461
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: first round pick in Walter Nolan. That now, all of

462
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: a sudden, Okay, gotta stay healthy first and foremost. But

463
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: the talent was on display more for Will than it

464
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: was for Walter. But at least in those first games,

465
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: it was easy to notice those two. Easier to notice

466
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: a cornerback than it is an interior defensive lineman. But

467
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: what Will did in that game against New Orleans He

468
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: had three passes defense and it wasn't like he was

469
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 2: going up against No. One's. In fact, I think he

470
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 2: was a great test this entire season for Will Johnson.

471
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Speaker 2: The number of different number one wide receivers, number two

472
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: wide receivers. You bring up the Los Angeles Rams, the

473
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks, the Cincinnati Bengals. As far as what not

474
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: only Will john Denzel Burke as well, who was forced

475
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: into playing maybe more than anticipated because of injuries. And

476
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: you look at Denzel and Will one two among rookies

477
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: as far as most passes defense this season, Denzel with eleven,

478
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: Will with ten.

479
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 4: I think for both guys, they probably played a little

480
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 4: bit earlier than you expected for them to play. When

481
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 4: the Cardinals drafted Will Johnson, there was that belief that

482
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 4: he can earn some snaps. But the discussion was, all right,

483
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 4: Garrett Williams is going to be on the outside in

484
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 4: base packages and then in nickel packages you'll be able

485
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 4: to slide him in or he would be compete with

486
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: Starling Thomas, the fifth Starling went out with the training

487
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: Even before that, Seawn Murphy Bunting as well.

488
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: Where you're you're selecting a cornerback in the fifth round,

489
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, why do you need another cornerback? And it

490
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: wasn't until a few weeks later that we found out

491
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Speaker 2: about SMB.

492
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was it was a surprise, but injuries

493
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 4: happen in whatever ways that they do. He goes on

494
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 4: NFI starling Thomas Tears's ACL he's done for the He's

495
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 4: done for the year. As early as training camp and

496
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 4: you're telling your rookies, hey, you're up, like you might

497
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: not have you might have expected to be learning the

498
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 4: ropes a little bit more and then sliding into more

499
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Speaker 4: of a prominent role.

500
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Speaker 1: That's not happening anymore.

501
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 4: Day one, get ready to get out there. And the

502
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 4: best way, Jonathan an he used to always say, the

503
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 4: best way to learn this by simply doing it by game.

504
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 4: Reps are golden and that's what you go through. And

505
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 4: Will Johnson had his moments where he learned a lot,

506
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 4: but the speed of the game. You have to hope

507
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 4: that he gets to go train in the offseason, try

508
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 4: to get healthy in the offseason. Remember, because he was

509
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 4: still dealing with the hamstring injury and then the toe

510
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 4: injury and the different things, and then when he came

511
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 4: in during OTAs was also still dealing with a little

512
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: bit of a bug. He didn't really have the full

513
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 4: stretch of health that you were hoping for from him.

514
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 4: If he's able to get healthy this offseason and feel good,

515
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 4: this can be a game changing offseason going into that

516
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 4: year two jump for him. I went back and I

517
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 4: just checked to make sure. So the Athletic Dane Brugler

518
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: from the Athletic put together his All Rookie team. He

519
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 4: had Denzel Burke on the All Rookie team. He has

520
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: Will Johnson as his runner up at cornerback, so kind

521
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 4: of interchangeable there. Then he had Walter Noll in the

522
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 4: third and Cody Simon as honorable mentionable. As honorable mentions

523
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 4: you mentioned what Walt was able to do in such

524
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 4: a short time frame exciting gets you optimistic about what

525
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 4: it could be like when he does come back fully

526
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 4: healthy whenever that is from his knee injury. And then

527
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 4: Cody Simon had he was able to take over for

528
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 4: Mac Wilson senior, and he didn't have the hitting ability,

529
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 4: the thumper ability that Mack Wilson senior possessed. But he

530
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: did pretty solid there and the green dots spot. It

531
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 4: took him some time to get his feet under here

532
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 4: him and to find his voice. But I talked with

533
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 4: him at locker room clean out and he said to me, like,

534
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: you know, I couldn't have done it without the veterans

535
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: there in the room. You know you at kalais Campbell

536
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 4: staring at you being like I need you to speak up.

537
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 4: You had Mac Wilson Senior there like I've called you

538
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 4: by rook from the jump, I need you to step

539
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: up and down the line.

540
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: He ended up doing that.

541
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 4: But it's a testament that this rookie Glass is starting

542
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: to get some of the recognition, at least nationally, that

543
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 4: it deserves.

544
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: In a season full of injuries.

545
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: Now it's one year. You got to be able to

546
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: do it on a consistent basis. But considering where this

547
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: team is at cornerback without Garrett Williams tearing his achilles,

548
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: you know how long he'll be out. You're not sure

549
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: about Starling Thomas, who who never saw the field this

550
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: past season. Sean Murphy Bunting is under contract no guaranteed

551
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: money though for twenty twenty six, so it could very

552
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: well be Will Johnson Denzel Burke as your foundation or

553
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: at least your starting point. And then I think some

554
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: question marks because as much as Max Melton looked how

555
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: well he had played, seemed to fall out of favor

556
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: with this coaching staff. Despite starting eight games, he just

557
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: played one game after Week twelve and didn't play. Yeah,

558
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: there were injuries there, but the one game he played

559
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: didn't see a single defensive snap in Week seventeen, So

560
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: again that's a name to keep an eye on. You've

561
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: got Elijah Jones we didn't see until Week eighteen, had

562
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: two passes defense, which was kind of a revelation. Jaden Davis,

563
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: a former seventh round pick, played three games I thought

564
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: was pretty solid. You had Kaylin King, who was a

565
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: late season pickup, never saw the field. He was more

566
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: for the future. Key Treil Clark remains on this roster

567
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: into the season on IR So those are the names.

568
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: And then Darren Hall is a free agent. So there's

569
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: a lot of names out there, but who can you

570
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: really count on? And I get it, we're here in January,

571
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: there are no games to be played until September. But

572
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: when you have two rookies, that one you expected a

573
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: lot in Will Johnson, a second in Denzel Burke, who

574
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: you didn't really know what to expect or anticipate seeing

575
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: him on the field, probably wasn't going to be a

576
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: factor of this season. Injuries put him in that position,

577
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: and the opportunity presented itself, and he took full advantage

578
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: of it to where now we're talking about again, if

579
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: we have to fill out a starting lineup now for

580
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: next season, Will and Denzel are your two starting corners.

581
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

582
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 4: I don't reason why I pause is because if Starling

583
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: or Shaun Murphy Bunty, if they do come back and

584
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 4: they're healthy by this time of training camp, do one

585
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 4: of them as their RUSS there, that might prevent one

586
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: of them from from starting. Now, these are there going

587
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 4: to be the conversations we're going to have in June

588
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 4: and July as training camp gets underway and we start

589
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: to think about and we start.

590
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: To pencil in a little bit darker what that what are.

591
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: Projected starting lineups might end up looking like that we

592
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 4: probably will never actually release out to the public. But

593
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 4: it really does depend so much of what you said there, Craig.

594
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 4: It's based off of what the past regimes saw in

595
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 4: Max Curlin, what they saw in Kee trou Clark, what

596
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 4: they could see in a Kaitlin King or Jayden Davis.

597
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: What you have, what you do see.

598
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 4: Right now is two starting caliber players, and Will Johnson

599
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: and Denzel Burke outside that you mentioned the questions, I

600
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: do think that Max Mellan is a quality cornerback. I

601
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: think he did a really solid job in the times

602
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: that he was out there during his rookie season. I

603
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: thought he looked really good. The injuries started to bug him, obviously.

604
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 4: He got carted off in the game against the Carolina

605
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: Panthers in Week two and thought it was going to

606
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 4: be a really nasty injury, and he ended up coming

607
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 4: back the next week against San Francisco forty nine ers,

608
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 4: and then he had that nagging heel injury that kept

609
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 4: him out for a little bit a period of time.

610
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 4: And I remember talking to Max during the during the

611
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: time when he was still recovering, he was saying like

612
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: he would practice and then he would feel it and

613
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: he wouldn't be able to go, and it was tough

614
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: for him. So you have to wonder how much that

615
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: might have been bothering him. As the rest of the

616
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: season ended. Up going on. But at the end of

617
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 4: the day, whoever the new coaches is going to need

618
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: to start to evaluate these players in terms of their

619
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 4: fit with whatever scheme that they may have. Because as

620
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 4: much as the Cardinals had played a nickel, and we

621
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: talked about this because you want to have really solid

622
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: cornerbacks out there, the Cardinals were in a nickel.

623
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: All that much.

624
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: So you really need your two base corners to be

625
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: the studs that you have out there that are, you know,

626
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 4: manning their own island. And right now those two studs

627
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 4: are Denzel Burke and Will Johnson.

628
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: And who's going to be the head coach? Is there

629
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: going to be a new defense coordinator. There will be

630
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: a new defensive backs coach. Patrick Tony is now at

631
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: all miss So when you look at the cornerback room,

632
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: there's going to be a new voice in that room

633
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: as far as player development is concerned. I like what

634
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: you said there about Star because that was someone that

635
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: who was claimed off waivers once upon a time and

636
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: became a starter and then we never saw the field.

637
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: We never saw him this season. And Max is a

638
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: real curious case because maybe it was more, but even

639
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: he had started to see his snap count diminish even

640
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: before the heel issues. So again, was that something he

641
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: was doing something the coaches saw, can he get back

642
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: into the good graces of this brand new coaching staff,

643
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: because that's a second round pick.

644
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: How much of that was Denzel Berk exceeding expectations as well?

645
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 4: What did the practices end up looking like? I will

646
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: say with starling I talked to him in uh to

647
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: not even divulge too much information, but right before locker room,

648
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 4: this space.

649
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: This is a safe space.

650
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: It's just us and all of our bird Gang listeners

651
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 4: on Cardinals Cover two. His rehab is going really well

652
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: based off of what he was telling me, so that's encouraging. Obviously,

653
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 4: it was a it was a nasty injury got him

654
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 4: carted off the field. You felt after what happened with

655
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Speaker 4: b Jo Jilari the previous training camp, the injuries that

656
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: the Cardinals already were dealt with Sean Murphy Bunting, you

657
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: felt that one a little bit more than I think

658
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Speaker 4: you otherwise might have. I remember just the vibe in

659
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Speaker 4: the building.

660
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Speaker 2: It was.

661
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Speaker 4: It was very tough when once Starlingk went down. He's

662
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Speaker 4: also one of the good guys on the team. But

663
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Speaker 4: I talked with him throughout the season. He was always

664
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Speaker 4: around the building, so he was at every single game,

665
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Speaker 4: especially every single home game. I saw him there and

666
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: he would I would always ask him how you feeling.

667
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: He'd always say he's feeling great. And then right before

668
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Speaker 4: the off season, you know began and everyone went to

669
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Speaker 4: the to their team meetings before they all ended up

670
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: leaving the building, Starling said his recovery was going really well.

671
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Speaker 4: So that is encouraging. You hope for the guy that

672
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Speaker 4: that's the case, but you hope for the player too

673
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Speaker 4: if he comes back better and stronger and can compete

674
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Speaker 4: with a player that's on the All Rookie team, and

675
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: you have more confidence in whoever that player is.

676
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Speaker 1: If that is Starling, sign me up.

677
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: It is a way too early conversation about the cornerback room,

678
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: but with the announcement that Will Johnson is on the

679
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: PFWA L Rookie team, I thought it was worth a

680
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: further dive into because there is talent and then there

681
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: are question marks with some key injured players and then

682
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: some maybe you know the resurgence of Max Melton in

683
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, and then did you find something with

684
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: Elijah Jones and Jaden Davis who were draft picks but

685
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 2: didn't find their way onto the field until twenty twenty five.

686
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: So again something to look forward to as we get

687
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: closer to one finding out who the he the coach

688
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 2: is going to be, and then this roster gets built

689
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: to a ninety man then we can start figuring out

690
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: right who are the best fifty three, But those are

691
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Speaker 2: discussions to be had at a later date. Immediately upon

692
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Speaker 2: us coming up this weekend championship Sunday, four teams remain,

693
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Speaker 2: all vying for a spot in the Super Bowl. First

694
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: game of the day on Sunday, the AFC Championship the

695
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Speaker 2: Patriots at the Broncos. The NFC Championship Game follows the

696
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: Rams at the Seahawks. Any one of those games stand

697
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Speaker 2: out more than another.

698
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Speaker 4: I feel like for us, that's kind of a trick question.

699
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Speaker 4: It would have to be the NFC West champion.

700
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Speaker 2: Can they just play for us?

701
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Speaker 4: I just I don't even refer to it anymore as the

702
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: NFC Championship game. It's the NFC West Championship Game. Yes,

703
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: the Seahawks won, but this will if the Seahawks don't

704
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: win this game in the NFC Championship game. They're gonna

705
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: feel like their division title was meaningless because you ended

706
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Speaker 4: up just losing to another team within your division that

707
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: ultimately got the spot in the Super Bowl. It's going

708
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Speaker 4: to be a very interesting battle between those two teams.

709
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: The third time a team play plays each other is

710
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 4: always a very interesting, physical, grueling matchup. You start to

711
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: see that a little bit in the game against the

712
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Speaker 4: Chicago Bears.

713
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Speaker 1: With the Green Bay Packers. When you start to have.

714
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Speaker 4: These divisional matchups in postseason action and the start of

715
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Speaker 4: impact that they have, I feel like that's the game.

716
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Speaker 4: It would be a totally different discussion. I feel if

717
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Speaker 4: bo Nicks was healthy and you've had a healthy number

718
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Speaker 4: one team versus a healthy number two team. But I

719
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 4: think I think New England wins that easily. But going

720
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Speaker 4: a mile high as is no joke.

721
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Speaker 2: I wonder and I haven't seen, but the over under

722
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 2: if you will, for those that for entertainment purposes, of course,

723
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Speaker 2: because of these two defenses, the Broncos and the Patriots.

724
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Speaker 2: Is it nine to six in the fourth quarter in

725
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: a field goal ties it sending into overtime.

726
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Speaker 4: I think that Drake May is going to be really good.

727
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: There is that you don't have confidence in Jared Stidham,

728
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: who has not attempted, let alone completed has that attempted

729
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: to pass over the past two seasons.

730
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Speaker 4: What has really frustrated me is by seeing all the

731
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Speaker 4: highlights of Jared Stidham, and they're all from the preseason

732
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Speaker 4: game against the Arizona Carden.

733
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Speaker 1: It is so I'm like, I get it.

734
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Speaker 4: That's all the tape that people really do have out there.

735
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Speaker 4: Jared Stidham can't do it, but it's an emotional toll

736
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Speaker 4: for this team that you now have. You had the

737
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: high the highest of highs of winning against the Buffalo

738
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Speaker 4: Bills and stopping them in the way that they did.

739
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Speaker 4: It was exciting you You knock out the Super Bowl

740
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: favorite within the end, within the AFC, and then two

741
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 4: hours later, an hour later, hour and a half, you

742
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Speaker 4: have Champagne going out there and really addressing the team

743
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 4: by way of the media because he was saying, I'd

744
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 4: rather be the one to have this come out of

745
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: my mouth than see this one being tweeted. And is

746
00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: that Bonnicks is done and you feel for them. I'm

747
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: sure the Denver faithful are probably a little bit stressed

748
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: out about this game. They probably no matter what happens,

749
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Speaker 4: they're going to have a little you know, asterisk next

750
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 4: to it and be like Bo Knicks played or he

751
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 4: didn't play, the what if question? So the what if

752
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 4: question will will be there regardless of the outcome, because

753
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Speaker 4: then you still have a super Bowl that they're gonna

754
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Speaker 4: whoever the team is is gonna end up playing for.

755
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Speaker 1: But I don't I don't know.

756
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Speaker 4: I just these are both two really good teams, but

757
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 4: not having your starting quarterback makes a huge difference.

758
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: Hatriots eight and oh on the road, best road record

759
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: in the league. So you're anticipating that number, I really am,

760
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: and that's fair, and I think that's what many people believe.

761
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Speaker 2: I just I don't know.

762
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Speaker 4: But the Broncos defense is very good. Like if there's

763
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Speaker 4: if they can't stop, if there's a defense that could

764
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Speaker 4: stop Drake May, it could be this Broncos defense. Now,

765
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Speaker 4: they let up a lot of points against Buffalo and

766
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 4: in the postseason, and I get it, But vance Joseph

767
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 4: scheme is one that's being studied and one that's being

768
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Speaker 4: considered even for head coaching opportunities. So it wouldn't surprise

769
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Speaker 4: me if they're able to get the job done. But

770
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Speaker 4: it would just surprise me that the Broncs are able

771
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Speaker 4: to score more than one more point than them.

772
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: In the NFC West Championship game. Rams at the Seahawks.

773
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: They split the season series. This is actually this is

774
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Speaker 2: I find this fascinating because the Rams number one scoring offense,

775
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: Seahawks number one scoring defense. They also have a very

776
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Speaker 2: good offense as well, though they will not have Zach

777
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: Charboney after he tours ACL in the divisional round. But

778
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: this is a Rams team that has looked pretty darn

779
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 2: good against the Seahawks this season. And if you're looking

780
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: at the quarterback matchup Matthew Stafford versus a Sam Darnold,

781
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: is he one hundred percent or is he still having

782
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: issues with that oblique? It wouldn't surprise me if the

783
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Speaker 2: Rams go on the road and win in Seattle.

784
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Speaker 4: I feel like that fan base, though, is probably going

785
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 4: to be jumping for this game. Did you see that

786
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 4: there was somebody I guess had like an apartment across

787
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 4: the street, but they just had a a sliver of

788
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 4: an angle of the field and could watch and it

789
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 4: was Rashisha Heat's kick return, and just to see the

790
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Speaker 4: twelves all go up there.

791
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Speaker 1: They were very energized.

792
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Speaker 4: I feel that the Rams can go and win simply

793
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 4: because I feel like Sean McVay is feeling a little

794
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 4: bit underestimated because if you look at I was just

795
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: reading an article The Athletic wrote and they wrote how

796
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Speaker 4: Mike McDonald's the Sean McVay of defenses now in the NFL,

797
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 4: And I'm curious to know if that's something that Sean

798
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: McVay and Kyle shanahan have kind of been in the

799
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Speaker 4: category of their own. Do they feel threatened by that

800
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 4: now that what Seattle was able to do to San Francz.

801
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: Wo's the new kid on who's the new kid on

802
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 4: the block, and the sort of impact that they're able

803
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: to have. They already won the division crown. As I said,

804
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 4: the Rams are playing with house money in a lot

805
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: of different ways.

806
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't know, man.

807
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 4: This is a very interesting battle that'll take place.

808
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: This excited to watch it though, Oh absolutely this. We

809
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: do know. The NFC West will be represented in the

810
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: Super Bowl for the eighth different time since twenty twelve,

811
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: more than any other division. So again, when you're looking

812
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: as we bring it full circle. As far as the

813
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals within the division, how do you be competitive?

814
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: How do you win the division to secure a playoff spot?

815
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: Forget about what you do elsewhere, but if you can

816
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: win your division, you are guaranteed a top four seed.

817
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: It's the easiest way to get into the playoffs. And

818
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 2: right now the Cardinals are behind not only the Rams

819
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: and the Seahawks, but the forty nine ers as well.

820
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: Well.

821
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Speaker 4: We say it's the easiest way, except three of the

822
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: four that is true ended up making it. You just

823
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 4: have to win your games, period. It comes down to

824
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: wins and losses. And to swing it back to how

825
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 4: we started in the beginning of this when we talked

826
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Speaker 4: about what Michael Bidwell told the media after the news

827
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Speaker 4: that they're letting go JG. This is a result based

828
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: league when it comes to the wins and losses, and

829
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: that's how you're judge. The Cardinals unfortunately, had too many

830
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: one score losses and you need to find guys that

831
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: can fight and finish games. And that stems from all

832
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 4: the way from the top down. Whoever the next person

833
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: is they are going to they have to have some

834
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 4: sort of chip on their shoulder to accept this type

835
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Speaker 4: of job, and I mean this in the way of

836
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: you were coming into the toughest, most competitive division in

837
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Speaker 4: the NFL.

838
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Speaker 1: Do you have what it takes.

839
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Speaker 4: That's what I think Manty and Micre are trying to

840
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: figure out right now.

841
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: The search for a head coach is prior to number one.

842
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: It's not the only thing going on within the Arizona

843
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: Cardinals organization.

844
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Speaker 1: Zach.

845
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: You were out at State Farm Stadium earlier this week

846
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Speaker 2: for Civics Summit, the first ever Civics Summit event for

847
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Speaker 2: students and teachers, more than forty five hundred at State

848
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Speaker 2: Farms Stadium. This is in addition to the annual Civics

849
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Speaker 2: Matters trip to Washington, d C. Which you are a

850
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: part of in a winning trip by the way last summer.

851
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: And again, this is something that is very important to

852
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 2: Michael Bidwell and the entire Cardinals organization. If you want

853
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: more information, not only the story on Azcardinals dot com,

854
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: but Civicsmatters az dot com, a brand new website launched.

855
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: For young people.

856
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: Because I thought it was fascinating to hear or read

857
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: on your story what Michael was talking about. Those kids

858
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: in attendance, they are the future not only of Arizona,

859
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: but this entire country.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was sharing a story if you go all

861
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 4: the way back two hundred and fifty years ago, like

862
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: the revolutionaries were all the young teens, the twenties, the thirties,

863
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 4: and those are the ones that really helped shape America

864
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Speaker 4: to what it is today. And Michael was talking about

865
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Speaker 4: it and simply said, like, you guys are the future here.

866
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Speaker 4: And it wasn't just students and attendance, it was teachers

867
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Speaker 4: and attendants and Congressman Wants This COMMANI from the Tucson

868
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Speaker 4: area was there. They were talking to the educators and saying,

869
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Speaker 4: you have the power here to shape our future.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and we have.

871
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: To do it through civics, through engagement, nonpartisan engagement, and

872
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: try to just do everything out there to help make

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Speaker 4: America one of the best countries, the best country out there.

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Speaker 4: There were a lot of students. It was good to

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Speaker 4: see the bowl at State Farm Stadium, the seating section

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Speaker 4: start to get filled out, a lot of excitement, some cheering.

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Speaker 4: There are competitions that were going on, but at the

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Speaker 4: end of the day, these people are the future. And

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Speaker 4: this Civics Matter Summit was the opening the entry to

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Speaker 4: making Civics Matters a year long project and not just

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Speaker 4: the trip in Washington, DC. Only two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 4: five students get to enjoy that, and they do it through.

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Speaker 1: An essay competition.

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Speaker 4: By having this summit, it allows it to be more

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Speaker 4: students and actually touch a lot of different parts of

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Speaker 4: the state forty eight as much as possible.

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Speaker 2: Again, Civicsmatters az dot com is the website. Got Azycardinals

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Speaker 2: dot com for the article that Zach wroates earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: What else you got going on? Or you just like

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Speaker 2: everyone else, just waiting for that press release. I'm just

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Speaker 2: on coch that announcement for a press conference for the

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Speaker 2: announcements of a new Cardinals head coach.

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Speaker 4: I'm just on coach watch, coach watch. We will continue

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Speaker 4: to hopefully there.

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Speaker 1: Will be nothing.

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Speaker 2: By the way, nothing broke while we were speaking here

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Speaker 2: for the last.

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Speaker 4: Nope, just the Stefanski at the Falcons. He's bringing in

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Speaker 4: Tommy Reach from Cleveland. Brown's not a shocker to be

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Speaker 4: his offensive coordinator. So then in that case, you know,

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Speaker 4: Drew Torell is not going to be going to Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: He did not earn that opportunity. But beyond that, No, nothing,

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Speaker 4: nothing broke shocking.

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Speaker 2: A lot of stuff happens, and when it does, it

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Speaker 2: kind of happens very quickly around the National Football League.

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Speaker 4: So we'll try to do our best here to keep

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Speaker 4: everyone off an eye out.

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Speaker 1: We're always doing that, all right.

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Speaker 2: So no head coach, at least not as of Wednesday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that changes in the next hour or two or

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Speaker 2: the next day to come, and of course we'll.

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Speaker 1: Talk about it as well.

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Speaker 2: On that notes, we will put a lid on. This

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Speaker 2: edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyundai, proud partner

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Speaker 2: of the Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks to our

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Speaker 2: executive producer Jim Mama Hunter, our associate producer Cody Fincher.

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Speaker 2: For Zach Kershman, I'm Praig Reel Lou. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.