1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian had a misfire so bad that I was 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: afraid to run the car long enough to let it 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: warm up. She was a princess queen of the highway. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Sign on the road said take us to Madre. No 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: one could save her, save the blind tiger. He was 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: a monster, black dress and leather. She was a princess 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: Queen of the highway. The car Doctor. I know when 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: you're gone, your kids are gonna look at it and go, 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: what do you gonna do with Pop's old car? I 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: don't know. It's chunk. Let's just throw it away. And 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: how much of a collectible is it? Then? Welcome to 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Aanian the Car Doctor. 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 15 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: call in the garage orders are open, but I am 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: here to take your call at eight five five five six, 18 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: And now he running in the car Doctor here at 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: I should point out that, well, maybe that's the phone 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: number eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero. 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: Or guys, over at E Voice decided this say afternoon 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: that they were gonna do a website upgrade, and um, 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: my chief engineer Tom Ray probably lost his voice yelling 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: at them trying to explain that we're about to do 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: a national radio show, and they decided to well, we'll 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: just do it without giving anybody any notice, any justification, 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: any proof. And he you know, hey, this is what's 29 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: gonna happen, and just cut everybody off right in mid stream. 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: So eight five five five six zero nine nine zero 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: zero should work. If you want to talk to the 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: car doctor and get up here on air and help 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: let me help you solve your problem. I should point 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: out that, um, I'm glad to be here this week. 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: I I really am. It's um and you're gonna know 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 1: whine about two seconds last Friday, a week ago Friday, 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: the Friday after Thanksgiving, And I didn't say anything about 38 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: it on last week's show because I wasn't sure what 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: was going on. Um. You see, I was always taught that, 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: in the words of ethel Merman, the show must go on, 41 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: and um, you you don't stop, you just keep going. 42 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: Friday after Thanksgiving, I was working in the shop and 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: I was under a car and backing up walking away, 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: I backed my head right into the corner of the 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: lift and took myself out. I was on the ground. 46 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Oh you know, eight seconds, ten seconds. I woke up. 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: Danny was almost standing over me doing the three, four 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: or five you're out um routine and UM, you know, 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: I was okay, but just kind of shook up. And 50 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: I took it easy the rest of the day and 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: finished all my cars and went home and how to 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: do the show Saturday. I knew you guys were counting 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: on me. I couldn't not do it. And Sunday as UM, 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: I was sitting there having Sunday dinner with the an 55 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: Indian family, my daughter, the emergency room nurse looked at 56 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: me and she said, you don't look right. What's going on? 57 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: And I said, well, and I told her the story, 58 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: and UM, I got a good scolding. So for all 59 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: of you that want to yell at me, you can't 60 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: because I already got mine. And um. She dragged me 61 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: down to the emergency room at St. Joe's and Paterson, 62 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: New Jersey, and um, they gave me the full physical 63 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: and the full makeup, and you know, I got a 64 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: mild concussion they kept me overnight for observation, and I 65 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: was back at work on Tuesday fixing cars because, um, 66 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: I gotta fix cars. But I just want to say 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: thank you for Um, you know, I'm glad to be here, 68 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to tell you. It's uh, it's 69 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: really just that important. UM. I really enjoyed doing this, 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I wasn't ready for it to 71 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: be taken away yet as I lay there in the 72 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: hospital bed in the emergency room, listening to everything going 73 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: on around me and thinking she doing radio is a 74 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: sure a whole lot more fun than this. So UM, 75 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm just glad to be here. I really do. I 76 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: mean that from the bottom of my heart. Let's open 77 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: up the garage doors right away this hour, Harry, who 78 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: do you have for me? On line one? Let's get 79 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: this show started. I'll do a monologue later. What do 80 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: you got? Yeah, okay, hey, Ron. Our first caller is 81 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: Richard in Appleton, Wisconsin. He's got a two thousand six 82 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: Chrysler PACIFICA and uh it shuts off and the dealer 83 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: can't find out what's going Well, there's a surprise. By 84 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: the way, I should point out, you're looking kind of 85 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: spelt today. What's going on here? Well, i'll tell you, 86 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: h since I have that lady love in my life. Yeah, 87 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: I hit the gym for the first time in a 88 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: few years today did all the work out. I noticed 89 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: you didn't have any I noticed you didn't have any 90 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: crumb cake today. No crumb cake, no chips, no nothing. 91 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: What's happening to our fast, Harry? I'm getting selt you 92 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: get that's right? Well, I'm gonna get over to the phones. 93 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: I gotta keep up with the marathon runner. You gotta 94 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: keep up with a marathon runner. Well, i'll tell you what. 95 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: I'll see you next week at the gym. As soon 96 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: as I get my head screwed on um, I'll be 97 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: there with you. Two. Brother Let's get over the phone 98 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: and talk to Richard Appleton, Wisconsin. Richard, Welcome to the car, doctor, sir. 99 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: How can I help? Well, I'm glad to hear you're back. 100 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: And okay, that's that's number one. Yes, thank you. I 101 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: have my daughter's vehicles. What this is? It's a two 102 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: thousand six christ Or PACIFICA. It stalls once a while 103 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: when she's taking a left turn. Okay, it's got a 104 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: history back in two thousand and fourteen, it did a 105 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: system update, a new battery in December uh September two 106 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: thousand fifteen, a new alternator October, new catalytic converter. Right 107 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: October again a left turn lost power, another new battery? 108 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: Is this is this November? Another new alternator? Richard? When 109 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: when when they said it might be something with the fuel. 110 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: So she took it into the dealer and they can't 111 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: find anything wrong with that. Right, We'll hang on a second. 112 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: When you say it loses power, is it that it 113 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: cuts off like she turned up? It stops shut off? 114 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: All right? And when you're sitting there with the car 115 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: shut off, any dashlights on, or it's just dead. I 116 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: knew you had asked that, and I wasn't there when 117 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: it happens. I can't answer that. Now. Some of the 118 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 1: times it wouldn't restart, but obviously some of the times 119 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: it has. Okay, when it doesn't restart, does it crank, 120 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: does it have dash lights? Doesn't make any noises? Or 121 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: is it just turned the dead? Nothing? Okay? Um. Diagnostic 122 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: routines are are critical to the life and survival of 123 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: a mechanic. And yeah, and you're not gonna I'm not 124 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: gonna ask for codes because I don't think you're gonna 125 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: find them. Uh. One of one of the most critical 126 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: steps in my diagnostic routine, the first step on every diagnosis, 127 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: and I don't emphasize it enough. First thing I look 128 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: at is the battery connections? Are they tight? One too? 129 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: I think, well, and I don't care what they did, 130 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: They do it right, and and my well, and that's 131 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's I gotta tell you, you'd be surprised. 132 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: I bet you fifty of the time the hard problems 133 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: are solved by something stupid, something simple that somebody didn't 134 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: look at. And you know, I could sit there and 135 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: I could talk to you about on this particular car 136 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: and Pacific as UM we see an awful lot of 137 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: um crank sensors, We see issues with map sensors, we 138 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: see issues with accelerator pedal position sensors, all those all 139 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: sorts of things. But before we go down that road 140 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: of deep diagnostics, how good is the battery terminal connections? 141 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: How clean are they? Did anybody voltage drop? And when 142 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: I say voltage dropped, did anybody reference the ground side 143 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: from the you know, everybody thinks positive side. They always 144 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: worry about the positive cable to positive connections. Did anybody 145 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: think to voltage drop the negative side battery cable from 146 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: battery to ground to chassis and all of that is 147 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: really critical, and it's it's probably one of the more 148 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: overlooked things, especially on a ten year old vehicle. So 149 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: you know the fact that when this died, as you said, 150 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: it had no dashlights, nothing, correct that it was dead dead. 151 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: Now when it restarted the last time, I don't know. 152 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't have to ask her, you know, And then 153 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: then we can start to talk about when we start 154 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: to talk about cars that are dead dead, we're looking 155 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: at batteries, were looking at cables, were looking at connections, 156 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: We're thinking about ignition switches. And you know, do we 157 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: have a lot of keys on that? Yeah? Okay, Um, 158 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, ask asking to just for for giggles, uh. 159 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: And it doesn't sound like this is easily reproduced. How 160 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: fast can she reproduce this? Can't it just out of 161 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: the blue? Okay? Ask her to start driving around with 162 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: one key on the ring. See if that makes it 163 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: go yeah, see if that's going to make it go away. Listen, 164 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: there's there's a bunch of there's a bunch of things 165 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: you can attack here, But until we come up with 166 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: some kind of cause and effect, here's what happens, and 167 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: here's the end result. You know, one of the other 168 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: questions I've got is, when the power comes back on, 169 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: does she have a clock? Is the clock have to 170 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: be reset? Does the radio have to be researched? And now, 171 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: on that car, it may be that if you disconnect 172 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: the battery, it doesn't lose the presets, but if when 173 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: you disconnect the battery, it loses the presets. If when 174 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: this problem happens and she loses the presets, we know 175 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: we're losing a main power input somewhere. So we've got 176 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: to kind of we've got to kind of establish the 177 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: ground rules and come up with a baseline. A crank 178 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: sensor won't cause the dash lights to stay out when 179 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: you turn that key on, You're still gonna have dashlights. 180 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: If a crank sensor is bad, you're still gonna have dashlights. 181 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: If an accelerator pedal position sensor is bad, you're still 182 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: gonna have dashlights. If a map censor is bad. So 183 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: the fact that if the dash lights are out, if 184 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: this car is dead, like the battery was out of 185 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: the car. Are you know done? Now we're looking at 186 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: the main power input, a main power connection of some sort, 187 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: at the potential, cause that's where i'd be chasing, all right. 188 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: But I would definitely get all that old school, like 189 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm closer to your age, so some of the newer 190 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: electronic stuff that's beyond me. Yeah, I would. I would 191 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: definitely get the weight off the key ring. I had 192 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: a young we're gonna talk about a little bit later 193 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: on this hour or next. I had a No. Seven 194 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: Trailblazer in the shop this week with an ignition switch problem. 195 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: And it's actually worn out the lock cylinder and the 196 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: housing that the plastic switch slides in from underneath, and 197 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: then it's an aluminium housing with a gear set. And 198 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: I weighed the keys, not the key, but everything else 199 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: that's on it. There's a half a pounded junk on 200 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: this key ring. That's a lot of weight. Yeah, that's 201 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: a lot of weight. And it just and you could 202 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: see all the slop in the in the cylinder and 203 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: I got it to work. It's it's usable now, but 204 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to put a hole upper locks it 205 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: and cylinder and it and spend more money just because 206 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: we've got this gaggle of stuff which we don't really need. 207 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: So but that's how I would approached that, Richard. All right, sir, 208 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: you're very welcome. Let us know what happens. Zero nine 209 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: zero zero the Car Doctor seven sometimes phone number. Um, 210 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: we're not sure. I think it's working today that someone 211 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: gives us a call, we'll find out and uh, let's 212 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: just see if they can leave a message. If not, 213 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: but that's the number that's supposed to work, they tell 214 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: me if E Voice is done upgrading their website. Thanks guys, 215 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Anyway, I'm running any in the car Doctor, 216 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna pull over and take a pause. I'll be 217 00:11:34,240 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: back right after this. Come welcome back on any in 218 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: the car Doctor here eight five zero nine nine zero 219 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: zero the Car Doctor seven number. If it's working, thanks 220 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: to the boys over to the Voice. You can leave 221 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: a message if we're not on the air, and we'll 222 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: call you back. Now. Stay tuned too, because if the 223 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: boys of the Voice don't get this right, we're gonna 224 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: be changing that eight hundred number because um, just some 225 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: kind of a nonsense corporation. I'm not really sure and 226 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: we're not gonna get into it to this show. What 227 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: I do want to get into on today's show, though, 228 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: is this is that holiday time of year, and this 229 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: is that segment where I always like to try and 230 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: help you out if you're trying to find some holiday 231 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: gift for that car enthusiast or that person in your 232 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: life and you're sort of looking for a direction. So 233 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: I've compiled a little list, and we'll do this in 234 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: no particular order of preference. I like all these products. Uh, 235 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: these are based on some of your phone calls this 236 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: year and some of the things you've been asking us, 237 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: and just some gentle reminders on if you're stuck for 238 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: holiday gifts, and these range from not so expensive to okay, 239 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: a little over the top. Turtle Wax. What's wrong with 240 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: giving your favorite car enthusiasts? Yeah, I know, I heard 241 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: everybody in the room grown. Oh no, I'm gonna get 242 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: a bottle of car wax for Christmas. Well, in all honesty, 243 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: there's a couple of reasons here. You know, Turtle Wax 244 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: is great stuff, obviously. Uh, they were one of the 245 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: early wax companies and they've been around for Everybody knows 246 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: the name, everybody remembers the commercials from way back when, 247 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: and um they've grown with the times. They've got some 248 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: great products. They've got a quick and easy exterior cleaner, 249 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: They've got a quick and easy wax product. They've got 250 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: all sorts of things at turtle wax dot com. But 251 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: the point is, if you want to take care of 252 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: your car, if you want to teach your kids to 253 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: take care of their car, Turtle Wax. There's no better 254 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: place to start and teach them about detailing and cleaning 255 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: and waxing. With winter coming in so many parts of 256 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: the country. You know what, even though wax is sometimes 257 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: a spring thing, it's also a let's protect the exterior 258 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: of the car if it's gonna sit outside thing. So 259 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: getting a code of Turtle Wax on it right now 260 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: would be a great idea to help enhance the value 261 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: of the car and take care of it. Plus it 262 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: makes a nice holiday gift and you can do some 263 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: nice wax products and wax cleaning kits for you know, 264 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: under a hundred bucks, under fifty bucks, whatever your heart 265 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: desires carbon cleaning. We thought about this, we said, you 266 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: know what else can we get somebody for the christ 267 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: for the holidays, for Christmas, whatever that is they're going 268 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: to celebrate out there. And what's different. How about a 269 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: carbon cleaning. There's a company out there called b G 270 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: Fuel Air Induction Service or actually b G Products, and 271 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: they've got a website b G find a Shop dot com. 272 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: Now b G Products um do a variety of things. 273 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: They've got fuel air induction cleaning, they've got diesel service, 274 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: they've got power steering flushes, they've got all sorts of 275 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: fluid cleaning, fluid handling, type of maintenance for your vehicle. 276 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: You can go to b G find a Shop dot com. 277 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: In other words, a repair shop in your neighborhood that 278 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: utilizes the b G product of of FAMI of cleaning 279 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: materials for the automobile maintenance, fuel injection cleaning, trans service, 280 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: et cetera. Buy a gift certificate to that repair shop 281 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: fifty hundred dollars whatever service you want to buy, or 282 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: just say, hey, I want to buy my dad a 283 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: carbon cleaning for his Chevy pickup, and you know, give 284 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: it that to dad as a stocking stuff or as 285 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: a gift on on Christmas morning if that's what you're into. 286 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: And you can read all who so all about and 287 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: they've got a very nice website. B G find a shop, 288 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: some nice pictures of valves and valve carbon deposits and 289 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: things like that, and the value that UM Carbon Cleaning does, 290 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: so b G find a shop dot com if you're 291 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: looking to do that. Remington Industries Remington I n D 292 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: dot com make some of the best floor mats on 293 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: the market. Again we're into winter, winter is coming and 294 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: their line of edge liner floor mats set the market 295 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: on on edge no pun intended about a year or 296 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,119 Speaker 1: so ago and UM just a really great custom engineered 297 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: too at the vehicle type of floor mat uh no junk. 298 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: They're available. You can find more information about them at 299 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: Remington's I n d dot com talks all about their 300 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: edge Liner, talks about some changes they've made in production 301 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: and how they've improved the plant and some of the 302 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: things they're doing in terms of design. And there are 303 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: other products besides floor mats, but Remington makes a very 304 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: very good floor mat and UM they kind of don't 305 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: get a lot of pressed because they're so busy making 306 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: floor mats and some of their other products that uh, 307 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: you don't hear about their name as a front line 308 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: like some of the other companies out there, but take 309 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: it from me, very good product Remington I n D 310 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: dot com for a great set of floor match for 311 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: that special someone in your life. Again, I get it. 312 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: Car enthusiasts, maybe maybe not. You know what, maybe mom 313 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: wants a nice set of floor mats. They also have 314 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: for the moms in the back of the cars, the 315 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: back of the soccer moms. They have the small compartment 316 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: satchels if you know, mom wants to carry things for 317 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: the dog or for a baby in the back um, 318 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, with the stroll or they have those type 319 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: of compartmental holders for the back area of an SUV. 320 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: So Remington I n D has all of that All Data. 321 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: Why not All Data for All Data. We talk about 322 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: them all the time with their subscription service in terms 323 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: of the professional repair shop. But All Data also has 324 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: subscription service for d I wires for the do it yourselfers, 325 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: and we've talked to them from time to time. We're 326 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: gonna try and get them on the year again this 327 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: year before the year runs out, just to see what's new. 328 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: But All Data you can go down and let's say 329 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: you own a Chevrolet Chevy Avalanche. You can get factory 330 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: information from All Data A one year subscription and anywhere 331 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: from thirty five to fifty dollars a year. I believe 332 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: it is so you can give somebody, you know, repair 333 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: information on how to fix their car, and bulletins and 334 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: all the rest of the good stuff that the professional 335 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: sees across the board on all the cars. And you 336 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: can do it through all data. Just go Google search 337 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: all data, D I Y, and I'll bring you to 338 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: the website and you can see what's there. Launch. What 339 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: would a car doctor Christmas list of holiday gift ideas 340 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: be without talking about launching their family of scan tools? 341 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: Because I think what kind of scan tool can I get? 342 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: Is the number one question that everyone presents to us. 343 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: And right now, as we've said before, none better than 344 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: the Launch CRP two nine. In the budget a little 345 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: high end maybe four to six depending upon where you 346 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: get it from. Are some of the you know, street 347 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: numbers that we're seeing. We've seen it a little cheaper elsewhere. 348 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: What you can expect to pay somewhere around four to six. 349 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Great scan tool, have one in the shop, updates like 350 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: magic works really well. The Launch CRP two twenty nine. 351 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: You can find more information at launch tech USA dot com. 352 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm not on any end, the car Doctor. That's it 353 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: for this year's Christmas list, although I'm sure there'll be 354 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: another one coming up shortly. We'll return right after this. 355 00:18:50,119 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: Don't go away, Hey, welcome back, Needing the car Doctor 356 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: here zero zero. Let's scoot on over and talk to 357 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: Bobby in Virginia Nissan Center and some problems with the 358 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: way it runs an air conditioning. Bobby, welcome to the 359 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Hey? Run think buddy, 360 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: You're welcome. What's going on? My little Nissan's got about 361 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: four little issues and may be related. The first thing 362 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: is it don't add all at a steady rpm. The 363 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: rpm go up and down, right up and down. I'm 364 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: gonna says like that, right, poor gast knowedge again about 365 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: eighteen and um the during the summertime, the A C 366 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: clutch on the compressive won't stay engaged. It kicks off, 367 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: and it kicks on randomly. And the best I can tell, 368 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: I was losing power going to the A C clip okay, 369 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: and with his own and the cruise control was on. Well, 370 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: I go up a steep incline. The cruise control kicks 371 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: off if a C is not on the cruise control 372 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: stays on. All right, Let's let's do them one at 373 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: a time. Where I would tell you to start with this, 374 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: and I remember this from way back, when there's a 375 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: bulletin out there. Um let me think Si Das Show 376 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: thirty two. It's probably a twenty year old bulletin and 377 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: it talks about UM engine idle strategy, timing and startability. 378 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: Does it give you any does it give you a 379 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: problem starting two at times, Bobby? Or does it start 380 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: okay every time? Yeah? Okay, all right, get your hands 381 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: on that bulletin NTB Show thirty two, and it talks 382 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about this and the gist of it's 383 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: gonna be that bulletin sort of the tip of the 384 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: ice bird. But there was also and it's probably carbon 385 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: on the idle air control valve, which was very common. 386 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: And then there is there was a sub harness which 387 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: probably isn't available anymore, that had a condenser in it, 388 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: because what would happen is the idol are control valve 389 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: would start to cycle so badly it would affect a 390 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: C clutch operation. It would change voltage on the line, 391 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: and they used the capacitor to control voltage feedback to 392 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: prevent the clutch from kicking off. Now, the a C 393 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: clutch is going to kick off on that vehicle normally 394 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: if the idol is too low or your wide open throttle. 395 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: These were the days of you know, trying to get 396 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: fuel economy and more power back into a car. So 397 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: we would make his sweat if you put your foot 398 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: to the floor. Um, you know, this wasn't really high 399 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: tech technology back then. We kind of did the best 400 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: of it. We had to work with. But it was 401 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: not uncommon that these had dirty idol air control motors, 402 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: and that would explain the stalling and and the sometimes startability, 403 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: and and that would also affect a C clutch operation. 404 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be surprised depending upon how dirty that 405 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: idle air control is or what sort of feedback it's getting, 406 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: if that was somehow affecting cruise control operation. Also, because 407 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: I remember this, the idole air control valves on those 408 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: the original ones, there was something in the way they 409 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: were constructed that they were feedback issues and they caused 410 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: those sorts of electrical gremlins within the vehicle. Right. Um, 411 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: when it doesn't start every once in a while, if 412 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: you have mine to step on the you know, gas 413 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: pedal jazz to touch just cracked the plate a little bit. 414 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: I wonder if it would start, and I bet it does. Yeah, okay, yeah, 415 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: so that's that's where we're going with this. So but uh, 416 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: I think if you can, if you can find that 417 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: sub harness, which you know, let's see ninety three that 418 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: was more than yesterday. Um, you know, so good luck 419 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: with that. But you know that'll that'll cover it for you, 420 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: all right, sir? Okay, you take good care and let 421 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: us know if we can do anything else for you, 422 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Um. Yeah, And you know that that 423 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: kind of brings up the argument about what do you 424 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: do on an older car when you've got something that, uh, 425 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: you know, you need software. It's it's a computer problem 426 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: and they're not keeping parts like that, and uh, you know, 427 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: where are we going? And I wonder about that. You know, 428 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: I was going to start the show the opening monologue 429 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 1: this hour. I wanted to talk a little bit about this, 430 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: oh seven trailblazer, and I think we'll we'll squeeze it 431 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: in here if we can um in that I don't know, 432 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: seven Chevy Trailblazer this week at the shop that has 433 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: a communication fault code, and it's setting codes that tell 434 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: me that three of the modules in question here are 435 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: losing power all at once. And there's nothing common on 436 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: these three modules except the ignition switch. The ignition it 437 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: points towards a bad ignition switch at the switch intermittently 438 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: flakes out on one leg, and the vehicle won't communicate 439 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: amongst itself. All the all the modules kind of shut 440 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: off and just don't work. So bottom line, it comes 441 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: back to it needs an ignition switch replaced. It put 442 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: an ignition switch in the car. Now, you gotta understand, 443 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: this person had about a half a pound junk on 444 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: the end of the key ring, and over time the 445 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: lock cylinder wore out the aluminum housing. And now that 446 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: it's got a fresh, tight ignition switch in it, the 447 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: range of motion of the gears that the switch ran 448 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: against has changed and it's affecting how it cranks. You 449 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: can turn it, you actually have to turn it all 450 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: the way, and I can I can actually put the 451 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: switch in two positions. I can bring the switch up 452 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: so it's tied up against the stop, so you've got 453 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: to turn it hard. Or I can set it so 454 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: that the timing of the gears are you turn it 455 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: all the way and back off just to touch and 456 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: the car starts. I can't get that sweet spot in 457 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: the middle because the drive gear against the driven gear 458 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: of the nitisitions, which is so worn that between that 459 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: and the play in the housing, it just doesn't work. 460 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: It's just you look at technology and all this technology 461 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: we've got, and it still comes down to basic mechanical 462 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: stuff as far as how a car operates. Let's get 463 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: over the phones and let's go talk to Jim Shanondoah, 464 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: Virginia with a ninetep that won't start. Jim, What can 465 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: I do for you? Running any in the car? Doctor? 466 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: Right your service? Okay, I got a ninety a jeep 467 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: chairity uh spends half its life on the off road. 468 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: And Uh, I'm getting all kind of straw and all 469 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 1: kind of code. I think it has probably some kind 470 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: of grounding issue problem. Okay, what what kind of code 471 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: are you getting? Jim? Uh? Well, I don't know. I'm 472 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: a fan, but about one of them was about alternator 473 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: And when I turned it was running real rough. When 474 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: I turned the lights on, it's smoothed it right out. 475 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: So I think it's grounded through the through the lights somehow. Um, 476 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: I wonder what would happen if when you turn the 477 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: lights on, if you disconnected the alternator. I'm sorry, if 478 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: you disconnected the alternator when it's running rough. Let me 479 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: let me back up again. You're saying it'll start to 480 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: run rough at random, and if you turn the lights on, 481 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: it smooths out. Well no, not right now. It kind 482 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: of it threw a bunch of codes, okay, and it's 483 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: been running rough then. So when I started up, it 484 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: runs real rough and in order to get it up 485 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: the operating temperature, I just turned the lights on and 486 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: it smooths it out and then it warm up. Okay. 487 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: So let's talk about critical grounds on a jeep. All right, 488 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: the critical grounds on that engine. There should be a 489 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: ground strap of off the driver's side rear corner of 490 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: the valve cover or the intake area and yep goes 491 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: to the firewall. You've made sure that's there and it's good, 492 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: clean and tight. Uh, it's there. I'm gonna work on 493 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: it tomorrow, you know, maybe vaulted drop against it and 494 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: just make sure, you know, look to see if there's 495 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: a star washer underneath the islet where the bolts through 496 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: star washers are a funny thing. I like them on 497 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: some things and I don't like them on others because 498 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: they raise the contact area away and they limit how 499 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: much metal to metal contact you can get in certain applications. 500 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: So I will use them sparingly, but just you know 501 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: if it's there, and make sure it's got some bit 502 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: and it's digging into the metal um on an older vehicle, 503 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: on a vehicle that's outside in the weather. There's a 504 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: product out there called Stabilitanto, and the neat thing about 505 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm saying that wrong. Stablanto. The neat thing 506 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: about that is that is a connection enhancer, and what 507 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: it will do is it will permanently bond the two 508 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: areas together and help to ensure a good positive connection, 509 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: not just so you're not just relying on the mechanical contact. 510 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: You're actually enhancing that mechanical contact of the two areas 511 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: that are put together. It works on connectors, it works 512 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: on ground straps, it works in the applications you're talking about. 513 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: For a vehicle it's off road a lot, it's you know, 514 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: you've got some misues with weather proofing, but I'm sure 515 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: there's ways around that too. But that might help and 516 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: solve some problems that you're having as well. Per have 517 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: some stabilant twenty two and then a little shot at 518 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: the electric grease around that to help protect it from 519 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: the weather. There are it's different than electric grease, right, 520 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: it's different than dielectric grease. It's a it's expensive, it's 521 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: not cheap stuff. We use it on some cars, European cars. 522 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: We use it a lot on with the oxygen sensor 523 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: connectors because some of the two censor connectors are down 524 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: real low underneath the cars and lots of exposure to 525 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: the air and the moisture stream as you're traveling down 526 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: the road sixty seventy miles an hour in winter weather 527 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: and even with weather proof connectors will take a part 528 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: of two censor carnesses and we'll find damage on older vehicles. 529 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: You know, as cars get older, the weather seals start 530 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: to dry out and things start to seep in and 531 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: get to where they're not supposed to be. So it 532 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: is a performance enhancer, uh to say it that way, 533 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: but I would go over all the grounds. There's a 534 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: ground coming off the negative battery post. There should be 535 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: uh there the battery cable if I remember right, splits. 536 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: One end goes to the block, the other end goes 537 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: to the fender well, which is chassis ground. Obviously, obviously 538 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: make sure that's good, clean and tight. I'd be curious 539 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: if the alternator has a bad diode or a diode issue, 540 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: and I'd wonder if when the engine's running rough, if 541 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: I were to just if you were to just unplug 542 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: the alternator gently. I don't know if I would take 543 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: the heavy battery log off, but I would just disable 544 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: the UM. I think there's a two wire connector or 545 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: a three wire connector at the back of the alternator. 546 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: If that, uh, if that just became disconnected, the alternator 547 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: stopped charging, I wanted the problem went away. All right, 548 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: We'll try rest. You know, UM, if you have a 549 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: lab scope and I realize what I'm asking, but I 550 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: would look at that in the shop with a lab 551 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: scope to see if there's any a C A C 552 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: leakage on the diode pattern. And UM, that's another thing 553 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: that I would look at as well. All right, So 554 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: try those things. You need to call back next week. 555 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: I gonna pull over and take a pause. Tony jump 556 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: put up and down the clocks running late this segment, 557 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: so we'll do it that way and talk again next 558 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: week that we have to. I'm run on any in 559 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I'm back right after this. Every have wait, 560 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: let me slip away every running any of the card doctor, 561 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm back and uh yeah, let's let's keep it going 562 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: this hour. So I want to shoot a quick piece 563 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: of email here and um, it's a good segment. It's 564 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: a good spot to do that. Ron. I've been listening 565 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: to you every week to your show since it started 566 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: really five years ago. Well, I get it from Lewis 567 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: and uh, let's see he's gonna be in New Jersey 568 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: somewhere at night. Three year Oode. Thanks for really inviting 569 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: sights and entertainment. I didn't think it was entertaining. My 570 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: kids don't think I'm fun well, I think the older 571 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: I get them more, they think I'm funny. But that's 572 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: another story. I mean waiting for you to bring up 573 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: one topic and so far you've not have a superter. 574 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: It has a CVT transmission. The dealer says, I wondered 575 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: a thousand mile service and it's expensive. What's your opinion. 576 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: I'll be listening for your answer. Should I do it sooner? 577 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: I have heavy duty usage. Thanks again for all the years. Sincerely, 578 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: little thanks Lou. I appreciate you coming to me from 579 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: my heart like that, and uh, I appreciate you being 580 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: there and account among the car doctor Nation super u 581 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: c VT trans fluid and I think this is true 582 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: on all c v T s um When I say this, 583 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: that this is a funny animal. They don't like the 584 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: service this and I don't know why. And the manufacturer's 585 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: perspective across the board and Subaru seems to lead the 586 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: pack is it never breaks. But if you were to 587 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: look up, and I did a little research on this 588 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: just so I knew from what I spoke, if you 589 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: were to look up the conditions to replace the trans 590 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: fluid on a c VT Subaru, it's like this. You 591 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: would check fluid condition all right, and it says m 592 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: fluid condition Metal particles excessive where the internal of the 593 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: transmission body. Replace c VT fluid. If the fluid is 594 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: thick and varnished means burnt clutches, replace the CVT fluid 595 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: and check the trans to see if it's operating correctly. 596 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: If the CVT fluid is cloudy or has bubbles in it, 597 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: it's water mixed in the fluid, change the c VT fluid. 598 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: The only time they want you to change the trans fluid, 599 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: in their opinion, less than a hundred thousand miles, is 600 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: when something is broken. But if you notice, a lot 601 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: of what they're saying is after something blew up, burnt up, 602 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: or got contaminated, change the fluid. Other than that, they 603 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: just want you to drive it until it breaks, until 604 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: it gets two hundred thousand miles. I agree with you, Lewis, 605 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: because I think between the lines, what you're really saying 606 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: to me is is that right. Look, manufacturers don't sell service. 607 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: Manufacturers sell cars, and that's what it's all about. And 608 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: in the game and age of we get it two 609 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles. You change the trans fluid at a 610 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: D and twenty. If you didn't do it right, or 611 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: if you didn't do it at all and it needs 612 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: to trans you buy a new car. Hey, the man 613 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: facturer is happy. I'm one for maintenance. I think everybody 614 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: knows that. You know, we get rid of a car 615 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: on our terms, not on the car's term. And it 616 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if the fluid is expensive or the service 617 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: is expensive. That's the manufacturer's fault. But the fact of 618 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: the matter is that I don't think there's any car 619 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: out there that would not benefit from fluid change, whether 620 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: it be trans or engine oil or coolant on a 621 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: regular basis, because when you look at the statistics and 622 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: when you look at the vehicles that don't go the distance, 623 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: they're the ones that didn't have maintenance. Bottom line, Yeah, 624 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: CVT fluid. There's an index method using a factory scan 625 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: tool that you have to check the quality of the 626 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: trans fluid other than physically looking at it. But if 627 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: it were me, dang the expense, I would be changing 628 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: that fluid around the eighty thousand mile mark, if not 629 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: a little sooner, depending upon condition, because I don't want 630 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: to wait for it to be burnt and used up, 631 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: because then I need a transmission. And that's a horse 632 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: of another COLORO nine nine zero zero, Ron and any 633 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: and the car doctor. We're back right after this. I'm 634 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: a friend of the streets in the up side. Hey, 635 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: welcome back the car and thanks ton Tony turned on 636 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: my microphone. Look at that good job. I'll tell you 637 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: what's It's a rough day here at the car doctor. 638 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: Um quick pisa email Ron. I want to thrown some 639 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: questions by you. I love the email questions, I really do. 640 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: I think I like them as much as the phone call. 641 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes I like them a little bit more. Um, and 642 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: here's one that's really well written, so this will be 643 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: good to answer. I want to throw in some quick 644 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: questions by you, as I've never had access to a 645 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: research such as you, and I'm about ready to purchase 646 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: a car as my lease is ending in Fbruary. For 647 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: years I've had I admired the Audi A three uh 648 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: and now there is a used two thousand eleven out 649 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: A three two oh six speed manual for sale with 650 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: forty five five miles, and I wonder if this could 651 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: be a worthwhile purchase for someone like me. I plan 652 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: on having this dream car of mine for years. Oh. 653 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: Various review websites claim this year is very reliable. Yeah, 654 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: but reliable compared to what reliable compared to other Audies. 655 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: That means that you only have to push it down 656 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: the road half as much as the previous models. As 657 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: I really can't afford any repairs while I'm paying it 658 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: off the warranty is done, I assume this car will 659 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: require a special mechanic. Absolutely blonde hair, blue eye speaks 660 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: German the service it meaning dollars. You got that right. 661 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: The only selling the vehicle has been very forthright about 662 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: its history and records and even paying for the car 663 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: facts reports that souls. Let's just me going see it 664 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: and bringing someone with me to take a look. Also, 665 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: judging by the mileage, the owner baby the car and 666 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: he said it was not his daily driver. Let me 667 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 1: know your thoughts, Katie, Katie, do you know what autie 668 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: stands for? Now? You have to own one ton or 669 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: stand this? And this usually strikes a nerve for the 670 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: people that have owned more than one as they've owned 671 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: them longer and longer. Out he stands for another underpowered 672 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: demonic invention. At forty five thousand miles, you're probably in 673 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: good shape. The question is what will it need at 674 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: sixty tho miles. You've got to look at a sixty 675 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: thou mile service. Don't go by what the website say. 676 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: Go by what that vehicle will need at the sixty 677 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: at the seventy thousand mile service, Go talk to that 678 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: special mechanic. Ask them that's real world. Say hey, listen, 679 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: this particular car, what do you do with these various mileages? 680 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: And what does it cost? And that's how you know 681 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: if you can really and truly afford that car. I'm 682 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: on anating of the car doctor. If the mechanics aren't expensive, 683 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: they're priceless. Let's see it.