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Speaker 1: The following episode involves scenes of sexual abuse that some

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Speaker 1: may find disturbing. Parental discretion is advised. There was once

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Speaker 1: a place deep in the rural hinterland of Bavaria in

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Speaker 1: southern Germany, Positioned half a kilometer to the west of

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Speaker 1: the village of Grubon. It sat quiet and still alone

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Speaker 1: in the fields, surrounded by thick pine forest. A farmhouse

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Speaker 1: made of stone and painted white. The farm, known as

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Speaker 1: hinter Kaifek, had passed through many hands over the years,

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Speaker 1: all of which had, at one time or another worked

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Speaker 1: the rich, dark earth that surrounded it, sewing it, tilling it,

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Speaker 1: and pulling from it. Fingers plunged deep into the black

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Speaker 1: of it, and all had, in one way or another,

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Speaker 1: left a piece of themselves in it too. By eighteen

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Speaker 1: eighty six, the property had been passed to Cecilia Assam

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Speaker 1: and Andreas Gruber, the pair having taken ownership of it

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Speaker 1: shortly after the death of Cecilia's first husband, Joseph, for

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Speaker 1: Cecilia left to run the farm and raise two young

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Speaker 1: children alone. Andreas was an apt partner, a farm laborer

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Speaker 1: with an intense and quiet disposition. His hands were strong

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Speaker 1: and his shoulders broad enough for them all, not that

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Speaker 1: Cecilia Assam became Cecilia Gruber, and together she and Andreas

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Speaker 1: worked the farm and the surrounding fields, maintaining a fine

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Speaker 1: and stable business. In eighteen eighty seven, new life arrives

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Speaker 1: in the form of a baby girl named Victoria. She

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Speaker 1: is joined by Sophie two years later, and for those

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Speaker 1: first few years joy threatens to reign a hint kaifek,

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Speaker 1: But the joy is short lived. Like almost twenty percent

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Speaker 1: does not live to see her second birthday. And now

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Speaker 1: a cloud is descending over this stark white property, cast

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Speaker 1: a drift from the nearby town and seeming to move

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Speaker 1: further away with each passing day, the forests surrounding it

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Speaker 1: seeming to grow ever denser, and the trees looming ever taller.

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Speaker 1: It is a natural habit of humans to project onto

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Speaker 1: all that we see, and no more so than with

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Speaker 1: our interpretations of the forest. For some, the forest is

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Speaker 1: foreboding a locusts for unknown dangers that lurk deep within.

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Speaker 1: But the forest does not think itself foreboding the forest

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Speaker 1: just is, And yet for hinter Kaifek, it is hard

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Speaker 1: not to read those tall, thick pines that surrounded the farm,

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Speaker 1: and the gloom of the forest beyond, as some kind

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Speaker 1: of psychic projection emanating from the darkness festering inside that

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Speaker 1: white stone building, a darkness that would one day come

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Speaker 1: to define that land in more ways than one. How

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Speaker 1: fitting too that the patch of woodland closest to the

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Speaker 1: farm should be called hex and Holtz, or the Witch's forest,

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Speaker 1: the notion of the witch often being just a projection

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Speaker 1: of our own innate fears of the other, but also two,

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Speaker 1: as woman's suffragist Matilda Josly Engage once noted, the fear

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Speaker 1: of women. But perhaps it isn't just fear that manifests

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Speaker 1: this patriarchal image of the malevolent witch, but guilt too.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Unexplained, and I'm Richard McClean smith. The

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Speaker 1: couple looked happy enough as they stood reciting their vows

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Speaker 1: under the watchful eyes of the priest. As they stepped

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Speaker 1: a brief moment, the clouds above parted and a ray

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Speaker 1: six year old Victoria saw it too, and perhaps for

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Speaker 1: a moment there was even the hint of a smile

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Speaker 1: Carl Gabriel, and saw there the hope of a better future,

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Speaker 1: the child that would surely come. But such thoughts were

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Speaker 1: never kept long in her mind before the sight of

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Speaker 1: her father, Andreas Gruber dissolved them instantly, that unmoving, impassive face,

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Speaker 1: There had long been rumors about the man, about how

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Speaker 1: he regularly beat his wife, Cecilia, now sixty four years

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Speaker 1: It was said to be common knowledge amongst the local

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Speaker 1: regularly raped his daughter, although it wasn't called rape at

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Speaker 1: the time. Perhaps Carl knew this too when he married Victoria,

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Speaker 1: before their wedding, Andreas transferred all the rights to the

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Speaker 1: the property. By marrying Victoria, Carl had guaranteed that any

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Speaker 1: children of theirs would inherit the land. But for some possessions,

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Speaker 1: or at least what they consider to be their possessions,

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Speaker 1: weeks after the wedding, Carl moved back home to his parents,

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Speaker 1: complaining that he was being bullied and that the fierce

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Speaker 1: and uncompromising Andreas had even taken to starving him. But

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Speaker 1: two were other larger shadows being steadily drawn across the land.

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Speaker 1: In late June of nineteen fourteen comes the news that

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Speaker 1: Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the throne of Austria Hungary,

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Speaker 1: has been shot dead. The rickety, stumbling wheel of human

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Speaker 1: toward war, and so the men are summoned by appeals

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Speaker 1: to duty and valor. Perhaps it is with trepidation that

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Speaker 1: Carl packs up the few belongings he'll need and marches

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Speaker 1: behind and now four months pregnant, Victoria. Or perhaps at

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Speaker 1: the sight of the stone faced Andreas, pausing briefly from

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Speaker 1: is December twelfth, nineteen fourteen, eight hundred kilometers to the

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Speaker 1: The crow cause and swoops down for closer inspection, but

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Speaker 1: from vadeh Hoffen, a town close to Gruben, stands over

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Speaker 1: a now heavily pregnant, Victoria watches from the window as

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Speaker 1: postal worker Joseph Meyer draws near to the house. With him,

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Speaker 1: he carries a copy of Andreas's regular paper and a

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Speaker 1: letter addressed to Victoria written by Joseph Bickler, informing her

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Speaker 1: of her husband's death. But Victoria has little time to

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Speaker 1: grieve when three weeks later she gives birth to her

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Speaker 1: still the rumors refuse to go away, as many in

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Speaker 1: a complaint is brought to the local police that Andreas

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Speaker 1: was committing incest with his daughter. After a formal investigation,

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Speaker 1: day after her daughter's first birthday, Victoria was taken to

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Speaker 1: Cecilia run the farm with help from their maid kretchens Raiger. Together,

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Speaker 1: they manage all the livestock and harvest the fields. On Sundays,

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Speaker 1: though Victoria continues to sing, something of her voice has changed.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighteen, Victoria begins a relationship with Lorenz Schlittenbauer,

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Speaker 1: she names Joseph. Now a single mother with two young children,

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Speaker 1: Victoria is convinced that Lorenz is the father and approaches

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Speaker 1: him for financial support. In response, Lorenz, who suspects the

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Speaker 1: child might instead be Andrea's, reports her and her father

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Speaker 1: again to the police. With Andreas Julia arrested and awaiting

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Speaker 1: despite agreeing to the claim, Victoria paid him to say it. Meanwhile, Cretans,

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Speaker 1: the well, Kretchians is walking across the courtyard when she

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Speaker 1: in horror. It is Andreas raping his daughter, who lies

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Speaker 1: The winter of nineteen twenty one is especially cruel, with

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Speaker 1: there is still no end in sight, with frost and

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Speaker 1: A few days later, when postal worker Joseph Meyer arrives

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Speaker 1: at the property, he has met by Andreas waving a

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Speaker 1: paper around a damp and muddy copy of the munich Zeitung.

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Speaker 1: He'd found it while out in the field, close to

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Speaker 1: which is wood. He wants to know if Joseph has

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Speaker 1: dropped it, perhaps, but Joseph has never seen it before,

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Speaker 1: and neither has he ever delivered one like it. Whosevers

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Speaker 1: it was, he suggests, was not local to the area.

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Speaker 1: It is early in the morning of March twenty ninth

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Speaker 1: when Andreas is disturbed from bed by what sounds like

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Speaker 1: each step creaking as he goes. Pointing the light into

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Speaker 1: in both directions, empty save for some old patches of

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Speaker 1: hanging in the smoke house above the kitchen. On the

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Speaker 1: morning of Thursday, March thirtieth, Andreas heads toward the engine room,

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Speaker 1: where much of the farmer's heavy equipment is kept. The

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Speaker 1: The snow is still thick on the ground as Andreas approaches,

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Speaker 1: to find that the padlock on the door is missing.

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