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Speaker 3: unturned when it comes to the situation that took place

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Speaker 3: last night, very troubling, but it is time for our

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Speaker 3: special WNBA news report and bulletin, and over to the

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Speaker 3: news desk we go where Lee Robert de Lap is

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Speaker 3: with us to explain the situation.

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Speaker 5: Mister Delap, guys an ongoing saga now in the WNBA.

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Speaker 5: We're in two separate incidents. On Tuesday night, what appears

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Speaker 5: to be another green dildo was thrown on the court at.

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Speaker 6: Barn That was the color green that at first, that

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Speaker 6: is correct and green are in the same family, right, Yes,

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Speaker 6: that is true.

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Speaker 7: And I saw that there were bets on this.

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously we talked about the different colors, but

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Speaker 5: somebody did lay down thirteeny to win twenty on just

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Speaker 5: the fact that there would be a dildo thrown before

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Speaker 5: the August Yes.

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Speaker 4: Or were you doing last night throwing dil dos?

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Speaker 7: I will keep my mouth shut on this. I will

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Speaker 7: be the fifth. I can neither confirm nor deny where

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Speaker 7: I was last night.

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Speaker 2: I mean it happened in La, right, one of them.

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Speaker 7: That was one of them.

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Speaker 5: One was actually at the at the Barclay Center during

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Speaker 5: the Liberty Wings game contest, and another at the Crypto

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Speaker 5: dot Com arena. That is, in fact, you're in La

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Speaker 5: where the fever lost one hundred and ninety one to

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Speaker 5: the Sparks Sophie cunning Sophie Cunningham was in fact hit

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Speaker 5: by this dildo.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, not so no, no.

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Speaker 2: Not Sophie Sophie, not our Sophie.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, So we got so we got four hair

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Speaker 3: chairs that have been thrown at w NBA games over

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Speaker 4: I mean that's something. Hey, you know what though, at

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Speaker 4: least they're with what.

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Speaker 2: Else you got? What do you mean? You know what?

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 2: What else?

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Speaker 4: You don't? Unloaded?

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Speaker 2: Get them all out?

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Speaker 4: I don't have anything.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can't drop it hair chair, the rest of them.

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Speaker 4: What I'm just saying, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to figure out stop whether I don't.

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Speaker 4: I just not ready. I'm going to.

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Speaker 5: Now just a note here the Liberty Wings game, according

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Speaker 5: to fans in the stands, there was another sex to

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Speaker 5: allegedly thrown at the game.

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Speaker 4: But it did not reach the court to make the

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Speaker 4: court no ass arm boy.

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Speaker 2: No, they need to work on their four. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: get nothing that spiral or it's gonna be end over

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Speaker 2: end that. There's only two ways to do.

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Speaker 4: It's a gancer.

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Speaker 2: Do you try to throw at helicopter. Sy, that's not

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Speaker 6: I'm right now, just say a flattening there, It's like,

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Speaker 6: what is that?

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Speaker 8: What?

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Speaker 6: Man, that's gotta be in slow motion if you see

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Speaker 4: That's gotta be the wildest.

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Speaker 6: The spiral might be kind of a vibe too, bro like,

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Speaker 6: kind of look like the one that you know, the

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Speaker 6: javelin that Lamar threw and Revenge of the Nerds.

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Speaker 4: That would be kind of crazy.

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Speaker 6: I mean, just the way my body would feel if

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Speaker 6: I saw a dildough.

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Speaker 4: In the air going over heading into the court.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just wondering though, and I'm not saying this

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Speaker 3: but how if your security.

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Speaker 4: Like how are you checking? You know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: how are you checking?

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Speaker 6: Because you could fit that thing up perfectly where it's

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Speaker 6: non detectable, yeah, you know, which would make it even

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Speaker 6: more disgusting, by the way, that would be way bore this, especially.

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Speaker 2: If it was a guy.

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Speaker 4: What's that supposed to mean? How dare you how?

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Speaker 2: How are we just describing this this dildo crisis.

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Speaker 4: The w NBA is in this?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Is this a revolt? Is that what this is. It's

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Speaker 3: Well, I think and this is just a theory, but

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Speaker 3: you guys know this that if you you know this

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Speaker 3: from being in locker rooms, no, now, you know this

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Speaker 3: being in locker rooms or growing up with siblings, that

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Speaker 3: the second, the second you show them that something bothers them,

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Speaker 3: their life. Like you just know that. That's that's the

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Speaker 3: take this serious. Let's just start sneaking in neon green

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Speaker 3: dildos and throw them onto.

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Speaker 9: The court at at a rackety so don't take What

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Speaker 9: are they going to do about it? What message are

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Speaker 9: you trying to send by using a dildo as your

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Speaker 9: weapon of choice to throw onto the court, Like, what

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Speaker 9: message are you trying to send?

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Speaker 2: I asked this the other day to you guys. I

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Speaker 2: pay you more here this or play with that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, because that's gotta be misogynistic. Who's ever

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Speaker 6: doing this? It's got to be a chauvinistic pig who's

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Speaker 2: Right, it couldn't be harder to find its way in

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Speaker 6: That's why I was That was that's what made me

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Speaker 4: Either way, I mean, both sides could get it in,

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Speaker 4: you know what.

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Speaker 6: I think we're getting to the point. So no, it's

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Speaker 6: not me throwing them. Please, I have never thrown a

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, though, should the w NBA like lean

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Speaker 2: all the fans wear wigs, you know, and then like

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Speaker 2: take them off and throw them on the court. You

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Speaker 2: know that'd be fine. Or you know, bring your dildo

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Speaker 2: know everyone's bringing their own. It's like, well, if everyone's

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Speaker 2: got one, you know, it's not like as big of

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Speaker 2: a deal, right, everybody, bubble head dolls. You just have

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Speaker 2: bubble dildos. No, no one's I mean you could lean

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Speaker 3: Hey listen, I'm I'm all for in game promotions. This

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Speaker 3: is gonna be a real, real tough one to figure out.

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Speaker 4: Though. It's gonna be a tough one to figure out. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, so, how how can you?

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Speaker 6: How do you because there's there's that elephant in the

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Speaker 4: Go like you what were you going to say? Man? Good?

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Speaker 4: Well are you going to say.

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Speaker 2: Contrary to Jonas's take that, or the guy didn't really

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Speaker 2: I think first or set and he's raced the three

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Speaker 2: separate charges. Wow, So there is you know, penalizing these

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Speaker 4: I mean, I wonder do they practice like you?

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Speaker 6: You gotta have some There has to be some science

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Speaker 6: one or is it like you look around, you look

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Speaker 6: around and it's like fast, throw it fast and then

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Speaker 2: Real think about how the life of a w NBA

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like for starters, knowing went to the games

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Speaker 2: now I've actually got to like look out and maybe

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Speaker 2: stop a fight or something here or there. And next

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Speaker 2: thing you know, this whole dildo crisis starts happening. People

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Speaker 4: You imagine it dropping from the top of the arena.

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Speaker 3: The person who couldn't make it onto the court, you

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Speaker 3: gotta feel like such a horse's ass. All that trouble

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Speaker 3: and you couldn't even get in and get it out.

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Speaker 3: And the first person that gets it to land upright

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Speaker 4: I agree they should be a national hero.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say so much to try to throw

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Speaker 2: in the basket, that'd be sweet. Yeah, I get stuck

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Speaker 2: up in the net. Yeah, I have a theory. By

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Speaker 2: the way, on who this most the last one that

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Speaker 2: he's between the ages of fifteen and thirteen years old,

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Speaker 2: maybe sixteen and thirteen years old. And the reason why

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Speaker 2: I'm profiled this kid in this way is usually you

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Speaker 2: get kids at that age who are very impressionable, but

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Speaker 2: at the same time they're kind of followers, they're not leaders.

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Speaker 2: So this is someone who's seen it a few times.

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Speaker 2: He's going for clout, trying to be cool, and he

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Speaker 2: doesn't have the arm strength though to get it to

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Speaker 2: the actual court. Obviously, has no experience throwing dildos, clearly

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Speaker 2: by by way of it not making to the court hanging.

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Speaker 2: So in this you know, act of cloud chasing, he

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Speaker 4: Ever imagined before. So it ends up short.

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Speaker 2: And meanwhile, all his friends, all the people who want

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Speaker 4: That's stand it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, how do you hold the dialdo to throw it?

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, man, like, are you grabb You've ever.

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Speaker 2: Thrown a knife before. You can hold it by the button,

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Speaker 2: you can hold it by the That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean if you if you get enough revolutions

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Speaker 2: The other way is the spiral, which that one you

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm trying to five.

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Speaker 3: Comes around, because wasn't it was it Tom House who

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Speaker 4: Martino is in my wedding.

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Speaker 6: Then you gotta follow it through to the bottom of

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Speaker 3: And these things are like fifty bucks.

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Speaker 6: So's the four. Let's see the form again. Let's see

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Speaker 6: Now you got to bring it under, you got you

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Speaker 4: I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: And these things are and you looked him up the

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Speaker 4: Some of them are. Some of them are like thirteen dollars.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, the range is like I guess it depends

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Speaker 4: I'd love to know what the increase in sales are.

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Speaker 6: I was about to say, bro, I bet you Braziers

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Speaker 6: As we speak one of them, what's the other ones called?

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Speaker 6: You know what they're called?

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Speaker 4: I don't me. You live out here, bright, Come on,

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Speaker 2: Hey? Look, man, what if a parent was involved? Like

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Speaker 4: You can order those things super easily, though.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you could.

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Speaker 4: You have to be eighteen, though, don't you to order them?

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Speaker 4: There an age?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you do have to be eighteen, but I mean

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Speaker 4: You can just told you.

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Speaker 10: That the last time I did online shopping for this

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Speaker 4: I can go test it right now.

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Speaker 6: I'm testing it right now as we speak. What are

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Speaker 6: you look, here's an.

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Speaker 4: Adult toy right here. I want to buy. I want

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Speaker 4: to buy it now. Why why pay the extra money?

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Speaker 4: Just get not ask me.

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Speaker 2: For I don't think you want that in your algorithm.

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Speaker 4: It's not asking. I mean, I'm just saying, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Just I know the next thing, next thing, you know

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Speaker 4: It's like Brady went through. Brady went through this, uh,

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Speaker 3: Instagram clips of people coming up with crafty ways to

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Speaker 6: You don't have to check being eighteen, by the way,

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Speaker 6: you don't know, you don't You don't have to be

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Speaker 2: In particular, the same thing happened to me one time

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Speaker 4: I who said that? Yeah, it's like wolves.

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Speaker 2: I could plain it about it, you know, and for

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, I think, uh, I think this is, you know,

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Speaker 4: Lead to laugh. Who really uh really dug deep?

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Speaker 6: You know, like when you wanted don't warrior movies, like

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Speaker 11: Like that thing just catch you off guard. Come out

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Speaker 11: of nowhere. By the way, it's upside to hit. Somebody's

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Speaker 11: gonna get really creative. You're gonna see dildo nunchucks. You're

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Speaker 11: gonna see all sorts of stuff come out now. Dildo stars,

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Speaker 11: oh yeah, Chinese stars. Oh grow up, everybody have some respect.

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Speaker 11: Oh god, it is two pros and a cup of

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Speaker 11: Joe here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: What was the score of the games.

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Speaker 4: Who was the leading scorer? Yeah? I thought that was

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Speaker 2: Was it?

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Speaker 8: Was it?

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Speaker 2: Brittany Hicks?

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Speaker 4: You got me the first time on that one? What Hicks?

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Speaker 4: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 3: The NFL has decided to put its foot down. All right,

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Speaker 3: enough is enough? The National Football League has banned smelling

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Speaker 3: salts and the use of ammonia before war and during

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Speaker 4: Why is that? Did they give a reason? I'm not sure,

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Speaker 4: but George Kittle's not happy. He was pissed.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of dudes that that's that's your wake

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Speaker 6: up call. I know people do that before workout, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: like in between sets. Does they kill brain cells? Lee?

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Speaker 2: Actually a pretty expert on that one't you.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 7: I haven't heard that it kills brain cells. I don't

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Speaker 4: That, Lee.

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Speaker 2: Do you do anything else that kills brain cells?

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Speaker 7: I drink that definitely kills brain cells. Nothing else. I

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Speaker 3: Okay, I guess there was some report that came out

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Speaker 3: and last year from the FDA warning people of the

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Speaker 3: use of it. So the NFL decided, you.

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Speaker 6: Know what, it can contain a chance ammonia gas can

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Speaker 6: irritate the nasal passages and the respiratory system. However, there

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Speaker 3: Damage until they get a sponsor from one of them

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Speaker 3: and they're making some money, and then then they'll be

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Speaker 3: okay with it.

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Speaker 4: Johnson hand smelling salts, Like, I.

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Speaker 2: Wonder if this is one of those deals they ban

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Speaker 2: it because they feel like younger kids will start doing it,

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Speaker 6: It's been forever. I use smelling salts in high school.

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Speaker 4: This isn't bad salts, right, No, not bad?

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Speaker 2: You don't eat them.

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Speaker 4: I've never heard of smelling salts.

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Speaker 6: Smelling salts is like an ammonia cap and like a

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Speaker 6: like a little like a little smellg you crack it

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Speaker 6: your whole face open, Like everything just opens up.

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Speaker 4: It's like who they use.

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Speaker 6: They're used for, like waking people up when they have

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Speaker 2: Stuff like we should all do it before show.

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Speaker 4: I mean it'd be like hyped up.

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Speaker 2: I know you will, Jonas, Yeah, I get you hyped.

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Speaker 6: They used to sell something on the market that was

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Speaker 4: Your nose and then sniff it.

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Speaker 7: And then they still some times they use mental.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, like if you're like really like stuffed

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Speaker 3: See you go deep enough? What Lee Rain has got answers? Yeah, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: There's this stuff called I don't know if I should

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Speaker 5: say it, but sniff it's it's legal in Europe.

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Speaker 7: It's not legal here.

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Speaker 2: I've heard that too around when people go skiing in

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Speaker 4: You know what we should lay out here? Oh God,

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Speaker 4: take it away.

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Speaker 2: He told me one time. He's never been know what smells.

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Speaker 1: Like that.

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Speaker 4: Tang.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just curious as to why you would why

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 6: I mean, why not give some some context to why

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Speaker 6: you would ban it. That's a that's it's a it's

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Speaker 6: a part of people's ritual, like a lot of people's ritual,

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking that is going to order someone Amazon,

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Speaker 2: It's gonna show.

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Speaker 3: Up, and so, yeah, there's nothing inside now. George Kittle

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Speaker 4: Here was I.

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Speaker 13: Honestly just came up here to eric our team at

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Speaker 13: a memo today that smelling spots and ammonia packets were

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Speaker 7: And I've been distraught all day.

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Speaker 4: Illegal.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He even said he's not practicing anymore. I considered retirement.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you got to figure out middle ground here.

449
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 4: Guys helped me out.

450
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 13: Somebody come up with a good ideas.

451
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I had to get out there?

452
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 8: Is it?

453
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 4: Is it?

454
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 7: Every before, every every drive I'm in, every.

455
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 4: Every drive in between every place.

456
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 13: Yeah, it feels like the energy is still out here though,

457
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 13: I like, definitely, but I miss those already.

458
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 4: I just don't.

459
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 3: But just now, now we've decided, you know what, it's

460
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, and you know this has got to stop. Okay,

461
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: there's not there's not other issues you could probably focus on.

462
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and get rid of smelling salts, all right.

463
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 4: I just I don't.

464
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: I don't know how they pick and choose what's going

465
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: to be a problem and what they're going to eliminate.

466
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 3: Just very very strange. I mean, what's what would do

467
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 3: more damage that?

468
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 4: Or chew?

469
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 3: Like smelling salts or chew? Because if it's two so

470
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 3: if somebody, if somebody was doing chew, not a zin

471
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: but the old school chew.

472
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, bro, like that band that's like causing cancer? Is

473
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 6: that band?

474
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 4: I believe?

475
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: So I don't think it is che I don't think

476
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: of this either. No, I just know no one does

477
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: want playing football.

478
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 7: Remember the MLB like tried to bin Yeah.

479
00:23:54,920 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 4: I thought mlbing tobacco. I thought that's what happened.

480
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 3: No, I mean like cause you'll see you could see

481
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: a coach on the sideline who's got to chew it?

482
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 4: So it's not not not in coaches.

483
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 6: That's not true. You're not you're not You're not allowed

484
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 6: to snuff. That's not you're not allowed to snuff.

485
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 4: Coaches don't. No, they're not allowed to snuff.

486
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: I've seen coaches dip.

487
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, no, no. I think if they did,

488
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 6: they were breaking the rule. Like I'm pretty certain they're

489
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 6: just coaches subject to that. It's a no. It's like

490
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 6: a no tobacco like chew, like smoke. It's a no.

491
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: You can't do any ship there.

492
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I'm I'm pretty certain.

493
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 6: I'm pretty certain that was made a rule. I'm pretty certain.

494
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 6: I'm gonna look it up.

495
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 8: Lee.

496
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 4: When's the last time you dipped?

497
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 5: Well, I've done this z in fairly recently. Not a

498
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 5: big fan of dip or or z in, even though

499
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 5: I do, even though I got.

500
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 4: My somebody's calling in, Hey, you know it just put

501
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 4: him on the air.

502
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 7: There's probably a lot of people who have opinions on this. Yes,

503
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 7: I will screen this call and we will check holed up.

504
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: How rude we're trying to do well, we're trying to

505
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: have a conversation about what's legal and not legal. And

506
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: then somebody's got the audacity to call in while Lee's

507
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: in his moment providing expertise on the subject.

508
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: I can't get over how differently it sounds this morning

509
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 2: versus yesterday. And he tried to say, there's nothing different.

510
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: A little lot of sorts, Yes, he blames it, blames

511
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: the computers, little.

512
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 4: Lot of sorts.

513
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: Live. I got are we doing?

514
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 4: Oh Lee, what are we looking at? Who is this?

515
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 7: This is Kenny in South Carolina.

516
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 5: It doesn't quite have a take on chewing tobacco, but

517
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 5: he does have an interesting Uh hey.

518
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 4: I was just calling to let you guys know. The

519
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 4: reason why they've maned smelling is because it's uh, concussion symptoms.

520
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 4: That's what they said.

521
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: Anyway, that makes sense. Yeah, I can see that.

522
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 6: I mean, all right, thanks sir, Yeah, I appreciate, thank you.

523
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 4: You guys. Buy now, how's your mask?

524
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm buying that. What do you mean, how's a mask

525
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: that wakes you up?

526
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, you can more alert, So you can do.

527
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 6: That through a concussion if the smelling salts wake your

528
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 6: ass up.

529
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 4: Basically, hell yeah.

530
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: There's people who get concussed and they're like, all right now,

531
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: I'm good to go back in.

532
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 4: There, you know, huh, well, you know they wouldn't that

533
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: be looked at as a remedy? Yeah?

534
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 6: When'd you say, when, when in doubt use a smelling

535
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 6: saul with you to make you more alert with them.

536
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 2: I'm with you not put them back in after a concussion, though.

537
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 6: I mean, but if you can go from being concussed

538
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 6: to not seemingly being concussed, why wouldn't you that. That's

539
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 6: like if I'm in pain and you give me pain,

540
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 6: that I don't have any pain anymore?

541
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: Right here?

542
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: You know, and this is this is wright in jonas

543
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: Is Wheelhouse whoa so boxing match guy gets knocked out

544
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: cold his corner can't be waving a mont of tabs

545
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: underneath the okay gets up for the ten.

546
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: Calendar there, and there's been some issues with that there.

547
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 3: There was a remember Aaron Pryor the bottle of course,

548
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: so the guy his training, God, I forget who his

549
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: trainer was.

550
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 2: Oh man, I forget what Aaron Pryor was.

551
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 4: Aaron was a great boxer out of Cincinnati, Like he

552
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 4: was really really.

553
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 3: Good and well weight class I believe was he middleweight,

554
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: but he was really good and he in the corner

555
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: he was drinking like the trainer asked him. They said, uh,

556
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 3: give me a box. Because he was losing the fight.

557
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: They're like, give me the bottle. And I think it

558
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: was against uh Aguayo. God was he? Who did he?

559
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: Who's he in the fight with? But anyways, he was

560
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 3: in the corner. The trainer said, give me the bottle,

561
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 3: know the other one? And he drank out of the

562
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: bottle and came out and just annihilated this guy. And

563
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 3: the rumor was that there was something in the bottle.

564
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 6: Some people thought mule and what was in the bottlely,

565
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 6: I think.

566
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: It's Alexis aguay some rage did he look that up?

567
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: Aaron Fryer they call him. I think it was Panama.

568
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: Lewis was the guy.

569
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 4: Who was.

570
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love what goes to leave for research. That's

571
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: the only reason I do it. Now. I try to

572
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: follow Genis on this.

573
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: He's a faster typer than me.

574
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 6: Tobacco products and alcohol are restricted, like like firmly restricted

575
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 6: from NFL activities. It's a strict policy. I guess they

576
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 6: caught Mike Zimmer snuffing. They caught Baker Mayfield using a

577
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 6: zen and while they did not find them, it was

578
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 6: made very clear to them that they are tobacco free zone.

579
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: Do you tell many guys use Zin's in the NFL?

580
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen coach smokes cigarettes. What are we

581
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: talking about it?

582
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 6: I've seen take it and put uh the biggest dip,

583
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 6: the biggest snuff and like bubble gum and you just

584
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 6: just chew it like it's like so they don't know

585
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 6: that it's that. It's like it's bubble gum. So I

586
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 6: don't I don't know how it all works, but it's

587
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 6: it's band. It's a band substance for anybody that's not

588
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 6: done chew. What is a hog leg?

589
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: What is the It's a big old dip up in there.

590
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: Don't be afraid to let a show, you.

591
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: Know, like like the horseshoe Almo swear at the bottom.

592
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 4: I don't understand why somebody would want to do that.

593
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 6: Why would you want to use it while you're in

594
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 6: a game, Like that thing really spaces you out, like

595
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 6: I used some Copenhagen.

596
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 4: Before, Like I used to do it.

597
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 6: I used to do it one time for a meeting,

598
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 6: every training cab, just every training cab I did with

599
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 6: one of my dudes, Like we sit there and we

600
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 6: spit together, right, and I would feel like yeah, yeah,

601
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 6: it made me feel really bad, like really spaced out,

602
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 6: but it kept you awake, like very I was very high.

603
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: Is what I was. In my own estimation, I was

604
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: I was fried Lee.

605
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: What do you have on Panama Lewis providing liquid cocaine

606
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: in the corner?

607
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Panama Lewis said at the time that he

608
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 5: had put peppermint liquor in there to settle a prior stomach. However,

609
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 5: many believed that it didn't contain stimulants. This was documented

610
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 5: in a documentary called Assault in the Ring. He was

611
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 5: later anctioned and and actually charged with assault for removing

612
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 5: padding from his gloves and the subsequent fight with Billy

613
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 5: Collins Junior. And they also claimed that he would crush

614
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 5: asthma pills into the fighter's water together, stamina.

615
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 4: That's what it asthma pills there, it is right there.

616
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 4: What a what a dirty tactic?

617
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: Ito fighters.

618
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: Down a horse?

619
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: That's really what it is, all right. Well, so that's unfortunate.

620
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: So if you were hoping to see somebody do smelling

621
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: salts in an NFL game, not gonna happen. Apparently we

622
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: decided we are against that moving forward.

623
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 4: That's crazy, but we can still do it on our

624
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: show though.

625
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 6: Anybody wants to appreciate the call from South Carolina too,

626
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 6: By the way, I appreciate your insight.

627
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, just why do you order some from Amazon and

628
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: get him delivered to your place?

629
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: You know, I don't like the label of being cheap.

630
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: You are cheap?

631
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: Well, I'll check the price at Amazon, and if I

632
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: don't like it, I'll go to Amazon Off and then

633
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: we'll go from there. Let me see smelling salts.

634
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 4: What can we get for you? What would you guys

635
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 4: say like eight bucks? What depends on how are you

636
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 4: getting If you are going to get a pack?

637
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 6: I would say it's probably like around twenty dollars or

638
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 6: something like that.

639
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: Ten to twelve.

640
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 6: You're a package, a pack up, Yeah, it can be

641
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 6: that expensive.

642
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: One pack nineteen ninety nine.

643
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: There you go, bad day, all right? How do they

644
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: come in one pack?

645
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 8: Umm?

646
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 6: I don't know, it's like twenty of them. Maybe I

647
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 6: think it's powder for him? Oh, it's powder?

648
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, how does that work?

649
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

650
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: It's got a little scoop with it and all that. Yeah,

651
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm looking for pills. You just bring No, that's not pills.

652
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 4: Oh they got travel size. You're looking at the wrong thing, all.

653
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: Right, So one hundred pounds sticks sixty bucks, way out

654
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: of my price range.

655
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: Not happening.

656
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: Good to Amazon.

657
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 7: I see something for seven bucks an eBay.

658
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 2: You never even buy ammonia sticks on third day.

659
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: The ones I'm talking about the ones that use on

660
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: by the way to sling. Somebody was slinging those on eBay.

661
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 6: The ones that use on the sidelines are thirty nine

662
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 6: hold on first aid only, ammonia inhaling thirty nine dollars

663
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 6: and ninety eight cents one hundred to the box, bang

664
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 6: for you. But the ones those are the ones that

665
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 6: they use on the sidelines.

666
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 4: I don't worry.

667
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: They'll be back heavily.

668
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

669
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 2: The old Shappy just would say expense to Shappy, we'll

670
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: try it.

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Speaker 3: On the show, Scot Shapira opening up a box of

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Speaker 3: smelling salt that Lee had delivered.

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Speaker 2: Even worse, he'd be like, are you guys doing smelling

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Speaker 2: salts before you guys go on air? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Actually walk Yeah, hate Lee. But the they don't do that.

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Speaker 4: They don't sell those at the liquor store, the.

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Speaker 7: Liver store, but at the pharmacy, get right next door.

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Speaker 4: You can. Oh you got?

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Speaker 6: You empty out one of them little water bottles, the

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Speaker 6: little mini water bottle. You put like three, four, five,

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Speaker 6: six of them bad boys in there, and then you

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Speaker 6: have a smelling salt party.

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Speaker 2: Why have you never thought of doing this before a show,

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Speaker 2: especially after a delivery Wednesday?

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Speaker 7: That is a good call. You know, we can, we

686
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Speaker 7: can make changes.

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Speaker 2: To improve career.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, sometimes I probably need it too, though, But

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Speaker 6: I'm drinking the Celsius right now, and I feel I'm

690
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Speaker 6: so jacked up.

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Speaker 4: Right now, I feel like I want to go out and.

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Speaker 6: Run like the stairs in between the breaks, like I

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Speaker 6: got energy.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy.

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Speaker 7: You got one of the ones with the vodka in it.

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Speaker 6: Var No, it's not ready to drink. I didn't get

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Speaker 6: I said, I wish I would have got one. No,

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Speaker 6: but this is sparkling wild Berry. It's pretty good. It's

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Speaker 6: got me wide awake, like them smelling smelling salts and

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Speaker 6: sip sip on some smelling salt.

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Speaker 4: Hell, yeah, that's what you're doing right now.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

703
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Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and

704
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

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Speaker 3: We promised you a three time Super Bowl champion, and

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Speaker 3: he has arrived. We welcome in Michael Lombardi, longtime front

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Speaker 3: office man, longtime assistant in the NFL. You mentioned the

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Speaker 3: three Super Bowl championships. He's now the GM at North

709
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Speaker 3: Carolina and he's the author of Football Done Right, setting

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Speaker 3: the record straight on the coaches, players and history of

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Speaker 3: the NFL. Mike, thanks so much for making us and

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Speaker 3: giving us a few minutes of your time here.

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Speaker 4: On this morning, No problem. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 8: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: So I just want to ask you first and foremost

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Speaker 3: when it comes to North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: What was Why was this the right move for you?

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Speaker 3: Because, look, you've had a successful run, You've got the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl rings, you've been had success in the media.

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Speaker 3: But why was now the time for you to get

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Speaker 3: it back and involved in specifically North Carolina at.

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Speaker 4: The college level.

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Speaker 8: Well, obviously, Coach Belichick and I we did a podcast

724
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Speaker 8: together on a TV show last year at NFL Films,

725
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 8: and we spent a lot of time together talking about,

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Speaker 8: you know, all things that relate to the NFL, and

727
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Speaker 8: it always came back to the fact that in college

728
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 8: it's a pro job. I mean, let's face it, the

729
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 8: kids deserve to get paid. They make a lot of

730
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Speaker 8: money for the universities. They put the school on the map.

731
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Speaker 8: They're going to have our salary cap. And the job

732
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 8: is very challenging if you're trying to manage the cap,

733
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Speaker 8: evaluate players, build a personnel department, and then also coach

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Speaker 8: the team. It really is a two person job. It's

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Speaker 8: a one voice job, but it's a two person job.

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Speaker 8: And I think ultimately he and I both looked at it,

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Speaker 8: and there was a situation that came up and we

738
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 8: both looked at each other, that's a pro job. And

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Speaker 8: I think that just led us to North Carolina being

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Speaker 8: you know, we were here back in nineteen ninety two.

741
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Speaker 8: We were on campus, we were scouting, we were with

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Speaker 8: the Browns. He was the head coach. I was a

743
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 8: GM and we walked around the campus, we were working

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Speaker 8: players out in the area, and we wonder, like, why

745
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Speaker 8: don't they win here? This is an incredibly magical place.

746
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Speaker 8: It's a great school. It's not a basketball school, it's

747
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Speaker 8: a great school. So I think ultimately that's what transpired.

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Speaker 2: Michael I got to ask you this, though you know,

749
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Speaker 2: it seems like it is a pro job. There's no doubt.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely getting to where I think the NFL is now,

751
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: but it's not quite there. You know, there's not as

752
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Speaker 2: much structure around it. Does it feel a little bit

753
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: chaotic at times with so many moving parts and a

754
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Speaker 2: lot of things that are still evolving and changing. And

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Speaker 2: then the other part of that is how do you

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Speaker 2: take your expertise in what you've acquired over your time

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Speaker 2: in the NFL and apply that to being a general

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Speaker 2: manager at the college level at its current state.

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Speaker 4: Well, two things.

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Speaker 8: Your first question to answer your first question is it's

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Speaker 8: really important that you that you understand that we don't

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Speaker 8: have a collective art and agreement, and so you can't

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Speaker 8: get upset with the way the rules change. You would

764
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Speaker 8: like more clarity on a lot of things, and I

765
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Speaker 8: think there should be some form of a collective argent agreement.

766
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Speaker 8: I don't think it's fair that a kid spends you know,

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Speaker 8: he signs an IL deal in December and then enters

768
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Speaker 8: the spring portal and takes money from the university for

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Speaker 8: three months and then transfers you know, I think that's

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Speaker 8: kind of that's not ethical business. I really don't. I

771
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Speaker 8: think that's hard. I think it's not a lesson we

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Speaker 8: want to teach our kids. So you know, now, should

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Speaker 8: you have the right to transfer, Absolutely, but I think

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Speaker 8: there should be one transfer portal, but there should be

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Speaker 8: more of a unilateral and a collective way to where

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Speaker 8: things where there's rules and we're not in the wild

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Speaker 8: wild West. To me my expertise, and I wrote about

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Speaker 8: this in my book Ridio Genius. My job here is

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00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 8: to build systems and processes because without systems and processes,

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Speaker 8: you can't win, whether you're in high school, college or pro.

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Speaker 8: And so what we have to do is we have

782
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Speaker 8: to identify who do we want to become. We want

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Speaker 8: to be a smart, tough, dependable football team at North Carolina.

784
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Speaker 8: So I have to build processes and systems that acquire

785
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 8: players that fit the description that we're doing. That means

786
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Speaker 8: have a grading system, that means build a draft board,

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Speaker 8: that means recruit the players that fit our model, scout

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Speaker 8: inside out, and then evaluate the current roster to make

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Speaker 8: sure that a player gets paid the right amount and

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Speaker 8: being we don't overpay a player, he's more than willing

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Speaker 8: to transfer and don't underpay a player because he's going

792
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Speaker 8: to transfer if you do that. So a lot of

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Speaker 8: moving pieces, but for the most part, it's about getting

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Speaker 8: the process in place, having a grading system. So we're

795
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Speaker 8: not arguing about who's a good player and who isn't

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Speaker 8: a good player. We're arguing about the description of the player.

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Speaker 8: You know, you see all these shows on TV they

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Speaker 8: argue who's a good player. Well, let's take Michael Parsons, right,

799
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Speaker 8: Michael Parsons describe him and that description tells you what

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Speaker 8: he should make based on the current salary structure.

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Speaker 4: Of the people in the league.

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Speaker 8: So obviously he's as good as TJ. Watt. He's the

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Speaker 8: highest a player. So Jerry's job is to try to

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Speaker 8: find a way to get him a little bit above TJ.

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Speaker 8: And Makais option is to get a lot above TJ.

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Speaker 8: So their lives to dispute.

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Speaker 4: So it's an interesting point.

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Speaker 6: And for you being at the college level, ma Is LeVar,

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Speaker 6: by the way, great to hear your voice and great, great, absolutely,

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Speaker 6: I'm just curious and and the things that you're saying,

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Speaker 6: and in the current space that you're in, you write

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Speaker 6: the book, which I think it makes a ton of

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Speaker 6: sense football done right, because there is a lot of

814
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Speaker 6: it done wrong and people may not realize that, but

815
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Speaker 6: but it is is this for you, the ability to

816
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Speaker 6: be able to do R and D like to to

817
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Speaker 6: figure out what works best and and and how does

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Speaker 6: that apply from you know, college students, because there still

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Speaker 6: has to be the student aspect, the go to school

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Speaker 6: and get good grades to aspect of it for where

821
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Speaker 6: you guys are at. But how does that compare or

822
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 6: how does what you're preaching and putting in your book

823
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Speaker 6: apply to college and pro or does it apply to

824
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Speaker 6: both or just one in particular.

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Speaker 8: Well, when you get paid right, LaVar, you become a professional.

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Speaker 8: And so our job here at North Carolina is to

827
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Speaker 8: teach these kids what it means to be a professional. Right.

828
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Speaker 8: Amateurs blame others, Professionals accept responsibility. Amateurs focus on the

829
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Speaker 8: short term. Professionals focus on the long term. Amateurs show

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Speaker 8: up the practice to have fun. Professionals realize what happens

831
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Speaker 8: in practice happens in the game. So there's so much

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Speaker 8: difference between an amateur and a pro, and it's our

833
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 8: job to teach them that. Because if you're going to

834
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 8: take a check and you're going to be held accountable.

835
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Speaker 8: Just you know, we're not just hoping you go play

836
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Speaker 8: the slots at the casino and we'll comp you for room,

837
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Speaker 8: food and beverage and make money off your gambling habits.

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Speaker 8: That's not what we're doing here. We're running a business,

839
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 8: and you've accepted it as a business because you're taking

840
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 8: a check. So our delivery is very much professional. We

841
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 8: call ourselves the thirty thirteen not because we want to

842
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 8: compete in the NFL, but because of the professional lessons

843
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 8: that we're going to teach them. What's the first thing

844
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 8: I tell every player that walks into my office, I

845
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 8: tell them, what are you going to do when you

846
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 8: sign your letter of intent to come to school here?

847
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 8: They said, well, I'm going to buy books?

848
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: Know you're not.

849
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Speaker 8: What am I going to do with the first thing here?

850
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 8: There's change your cell phone number. Because everybody's going to

851
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 8: want tickets, everybody's going to want gear, everybody's going to

852
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 8: want something from you. But you're a professional now, and

853
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 8: tickets cost money, and gear costs money, and you can

854
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 8: control who's in your life and who's not in your life.

855
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 8: And so for me, that's the lesson we're trying to

856
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 8: teach the kids here. You know about that when we

857
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 8: were in New England. You know, at the first Rookie meeting,

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00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 8: we had Verizon at and T. We had you know,

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00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 8: all the T mobile We had them all waiting outside

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00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 8: there so the kids could understand, Hey, you're pro now,

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00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 8: and pros control who comes in their lives.

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00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: Michael Lombardi with us here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Mike, before we let you go, you had a successful

864
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: run with the first book, Gridiron Genius. What motivated you

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Speaker 3: to write the next one, Football Done Right, which is

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00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: now on paperback here soon.

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Speaker 8: Well, what motivated me was the injustices that happened in

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00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 8: the league, the inconsistency. George Allen went to one Super

869
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 8: Bowl and lost. He won seventy percent of his game

870
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 8: season In the Hall of Fame, I don't dispute that

871
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 8: Marty Schottenheimer won two hundred games in his career. He's

872
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 8: one of nine human beings on planet Earth that has

873
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 8: ever done that that's called themselves the head coach. He

874
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 8: can't get into the Hall of Fame. Well, they say, well,

875
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 8: he never won a Super Bowl, either did Marv Levy

876
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 8: either did Bud Grant. The inconsistencies in the voting. I mean,

877
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 8: I wrote the book under the pretense, but why it

878
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 8: was Sterling Sharp not in the Hall of Fame. Two

879
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 8: years later he got in the Hall of Fame. But

880
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 8: there's so many players that are overlooked in that area.

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00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 8: And I think, to me, especially in the coaching venue.

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00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 8: You know, it's a political it's a political event. It's

883
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 8: not based on merit. Why did it take so long

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00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 8: for Charles Haley to get into the Hall of Fame.

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00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 8: It's ridiculous, right, Charles Haley's one of the best players

886
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 8: in the national football it took him forever to get

887
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 8: in the Hall of Fame. Well, he wasn't popular with

888
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 8: the media. And I think you need to take that

889
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 8: out of it. You know, I think it's an injustice

890
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 8: that Clark Shaughnessy, the man who invented the forward pass.

891
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 8: He invented the forward pass. When I used to get

892
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 8: on the team bus in San Francisco, Bill Walsh would

893
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 8: be doodling Clark Shaughnessy's plays. He's in the College Hall

894
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 8: of Fame, but he can't get the pro he invented

895
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 8: the pass. You know, there's just these kinds of things.

896
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 8: No one's paying attention to it, and the purpose of

897
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 8: the book was. You know, Larry David on his show

898
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 8: Curb Your Enthusiasm, he called the guy that sits in

899
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 8: the middle of a dinner party table the middler, the

900
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 8: stir conversation. That's what I was trying to do with

901
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 8: this book, is stir a conversation.

902
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: Michael Lombardi awesome.

903
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 3: You can get him on x at m Lombardi UNCGM.

904
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: Congrats on the new gig, can't wait to watch. It's

905
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: going to be fascinating. Congrats on the second book and

906
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: let's do it again soon.

907
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 8: Thank you so much.

908
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: Guys.

909
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: There he is, Michael Lombardi with us here on Fox

910
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 3: Sports Radio. The more we get closer to Belichick Lombardi

911
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: at North Carolina Must See TV, the more I'm fascinated

912
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 3: by it.

913
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: It Must See. I want to wait to see how

914
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: this is going to work.

915
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: Listening to by the way, I mean, everyone who surrounds

916
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, or I should say who he surrounds himself with,

917
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: is super sharp.

918
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the.

919
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: One thing I would say, just from all the coaches

920
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: that I played for that were assistants under Bill Belichick

921
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: and coordinators and became head coaches. They're super sharp and

922
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: they all have they know football. And so if you

923
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: look at like all those coaches and you go, well,

924
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: why don't they have more success or why don't more

925
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: win Super Bowls? It's it's hard, man.

926
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: You just listen to.

927
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: Michael Lombardi tell you about a guy like Marty Schottenheimer

928
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: who won two hundred games, who was an incredibly successful

929
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: coach that didn't win a Super Bowl. But grant there's

930
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: others who have been legends of the game, and that

931
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,479
Speaker 2: it doesn't always equates always working out that way because

932
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: there's a lot of factors that play a role. But

933
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: I love hearing about the history of it. I love,

934
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: you know, because I mean football it's all you know, copycat,

935
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: you know, guys kind of rinse, repeat, you know, some

936
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: of the stuff that's been.

937
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 4: Going on for a long time. I will say this,

938
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 4: new Rockney.

939
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: May have an issue with his claim one who created

940
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: the forward pass?

941
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I can do.

942
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: I do think new Rockney at one point was credited

943
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: in creating the forward pass. So I'll have to help

944
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: to look that up.

945
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: I mean, there's only one way to get to the

946
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: answer here, agreed or Lee, Lee, I'll take Lee over

947
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: Grok any day of the week, way more entertaining. All right, Lee,

948
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: who created the forward pass? All right, so we can

949
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: get to the bottom of this stuff.

950
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 4: This is important.

951
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: It is true though, there's so many variables and so

952
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: many things that need to happen right for you to

953
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl, And once you win that Super Bowl,

954
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: the way your career is viewed is completely different. And look,

955
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: it definitely is worth something. But man, I mean, like

956
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: Matt Ryan, Matt Ryan's probably there's probably a discussion being

957
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: had for him being a Hall of Famer if they

958
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: could hold onto a lead, or you know, if they

959
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: chose to run the ball a couple more times, or

960
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: if one of those two point conversions right that the

961
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: Patriots converted on late in that game, they don't convert

962
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: on Matt Ryan. All of a sudden, we're talking about

963
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 3: him being a Hall of Famer with a Super Bowl

964
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 3: ring and a win over Tom Brady just changes.

965
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 4: The course of your entire career.

966
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, and those are nuanced conversations, right.

967
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: You know, he's playing with another Hall of Famer in

968
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: Julio Jones. But it's incredible to think how it is

969
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: media driven like, we're talking about that subject right now,

970
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: but if you ask other people who played with them,

971
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: you know, people like will come up to bat form

972
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: and say, no, he should be a Hall of Famer.

973
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: I mean Philip Rivers, another guy who didn't win a

974
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, was incredibly successful and prolific of the course

975
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: of his career and a player that when you talk

976
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: to guys who are like, no, he should be a

977
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, there's people who feel that way. So look,

978
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: fans have their opinion, media has got their own opinion

979
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: on it. But the fact that it is the way

980
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: it is sometimes where guys have to wait, who shouldn't

981
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: That's what's frustrating.

982
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I'm curious to see how it

983
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 6: all plays out and to see what we're talking about

984
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 6: legacies and how people are viewed and being went one

985
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 6: win or wins away from being viewed a certain type

986
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 6: of way. What will the aftermath of this experiment project

987
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 6: with you and c with Belichick, with Lombardi coming to

988
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 6: college with a sense of, as he said in himself,

989
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 6: teaching these young guys how to be professionals from day one?

990
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 2: Did you like that? By the way, I actually loved

991
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 2: not just say because you like it kind of makes.

992
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 6: Sense, and it makes sense in a lot of ways.

993
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 6: My biggest question is, with so many different backgrounds, so

994
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 6: many different motivations, how are you able to get those

995
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 6: lessons across with some seventeen, eighteen year old, nineteen year old,

996
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 6: you know, twenty year old, you know, young young dudes.

997
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 6: There are so many different things that their minds are

998
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 6: on and and it's just it it sounds good in theory. Well,

999
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 6: I think there's some common ground there. Would see if

1000
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 6: you've ever coached and you've been around these kids on

1001
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 6: an everyday basis, it is definitely very Uh, it's it's

1002
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 6: a challenge.

1003
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 2: I'll say that there's some common ground.

1004
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 4: I heard the setup. Go ahead, finish it. No, I'm

1005
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 4: just finish the.

1006
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: Setup what they're interested in at that age. You know

1007
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: some young.

1008
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 6: Coach, same age and they go out on double dates.

1009
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 6: I mean, you are a funny dude, because it did.

1010
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 6: I heard you, but it didn't click in. I was

1011
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 6: waiting for the punchline, and then I really thought about

1012
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 6: what you said.

1013
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 2: And if you don't think you're not going to run

1014
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: into Bill Belichick at the hot spot there in Chapel Hill.

1015
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: All right, whatever restaurant that is on a date night,

1016
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: You're a dead wrong. That's relatable. I mean they are relatable. Damn.

1017
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 3: I mean, don't you respect him more as a talent

1018
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: evaluator based on this offseason?

1019
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: That's what I do.

1020
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 6: I bet you those kids are going to play harder.

1021
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 6: I bet you they're gonna play harder for a coach

1022
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 6: that they know Will Dade, a woman that looks like

1023
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 6: that at that age, I bet you did play harder

1024
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 6: because the respect factor is going to be different up

1025
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 6: till he's playing in our pool.

1026
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: I feel like, in all seriousness, you did this.

1027
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 4: By the way you did this, you did that he

1028
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 4: usually does all right, good.

1029
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: I do feel like this is going to work. I mean,

1030
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 2: there's a there's a number of things that line up

1031
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: for you and c to be successful. Outside of Clemsons

1032
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: is gonna be really good this year. There's not really

1033
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 2: another team that makes you go okay, like Miami could

1034
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: be really good, which weird stat this is, this is

1035
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 2: actually amazing. By the way, do you guys know Miami

1036
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: in their first I want to say it's like six

1037
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 2: or seven games. They play one away game before November.

1038
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 2: Really the season starts for them with August thirty first,

1039
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 2: that's Sunday Night versus Notre Dame. They will play in

1040
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: the state of Florida all right the entire time until November,

1041
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: so they're basically playing I think it's like six home

1042
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: games and one away game. Maybe they play what at

1043
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 2: Florida State or someone they play someone else on the road,

1044
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: but in Florida, everywhere else is at home. It is

1045
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 2: the most stacked schedule I have ever seen.

1046
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so Florida, Florida at Florida State.

1047
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: Jesus, it's everything's at everything's in Miami besides the Florida

1048
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 2: State game. And then they finally go on the road.

1049
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 4: In November, and they're going to start off the year

1050
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 4: oh and one, So they got to.

1051
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: Make up for that's right, how about them apples. But anyway,

1052
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 2: Miami schedule sets up well for them, with the exception

1053
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: of having to get drum by Notre Dame week one.

1054
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: Clemson would be good. But outside of that, you're going

1055
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: all right, Like Florida State's kind of down, so you

1056
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: and seek it easily flip the script on a lot

1057
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: of people and become that team no one's talking about.

1058
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of the things they're doing,

1059
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: you know, bringing more of a pro style model. You

1060
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: hear about some of the parents who want their son

1061
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 2: to you know, play for Bill Belichick and have that

1062
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: all that NFL experience. It's real. I mean, Michael, the

1063
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: whole cell phone thing just kind of tickles me because

1064
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: it's just it's one of those little quirks that you

1065
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: you when you sit and think about it, you go,

1066
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 2: that's a powerful message to tell to a young person

1067
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: who's got money and now fame at a really young age,

1068
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: is you now control who's in your life? And I

1069
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: understand your point of like, hey, it's it's not that easy. Which,

1070
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: by the way, it's I don't care if you're black, white, hispanic, whatever,

1071
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 2: like what. Yeah, I'm just saying everyone deals with that,

1072
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: like taking care of the family, take care of the boys,

1073
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 2: taking care of whatever it is, you know, whatever you

1074
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: want to describe it. Like, there's all elements of that

1075
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: once you get money and once you make it. So

1076
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: it's a powerful message to me because I think it

1077
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 2: resonates with like anyone at that stage of life who's

1078
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: eighteen years old, as all of a sudden, making hundreds

1079
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars, maybe even depending on who they are,

1080
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 2: a million or more and then being able to understand

1081
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 2: how you get to deal with that. You know, that's

1082
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: a tough thing to deal with an eighteen years old lee.

1083
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 4: Do we have an answer on who created the forward pass?

1084
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, the University of North Carolina likes to say

1085
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 5: that they invented the forward pass, which might you know,

1086
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 5: some people might say is the case because they did

1087
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 5: it in eighteen ninety five against the University of Georgia.

1088
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 5: It wasn't legal until nineteen oh six, and so it

1089
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 5: was credited to a coach of Saint Louis University, Eddie Coacherns,

1090
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 5: the father of the forward pass. Bradbury Robins said, Bradbury

1091
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 5: Robinson threw that first pass under those rules, it wasn't

1092
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 5: incomplete and therefore resulted in a turnover. He did later

1093
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 5: throw a twenty yard touchdown in that season. But yeah,

1094
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 5: his coach, Eddie Coachurns, is considered the father.

1095
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: Of the forward pass. Okay, so I'm seeing John Heisman

1096
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: is the renowned coach is most closely associated with the

1097
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 2: development of it because he's the one who helped advocate

1098
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: and really pushing it I legalized and then nineteen oh

1099
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 2: six Rules Committee. That's what I was able to find.

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00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: Lee.

1101
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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, sorry, uh yeah, well key radio you know,

1102
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 5: well sh figure.

1103
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 4: You know they can't see you like look, yeah, say something.

1104
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 2: Lee, they can't see the hour glass slowly trying to

1105
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: process late.

1106
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 4: Ailee respond a little bit quicker than that. But you

1107
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 4: are the grock for people driving. I stand No.

1108
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 5: I agree that John Heisman, the namesake of the Heisman,

1109
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 5: wrote thirty years later that he believes that the tar

1110
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 5: heels gave birth to the forward Pass. Again, it wasn't

1111
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 5: legal until nineteen oh six. I'm just telling you what.

1112
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 5: Who you're telling us what crock you found on rock?

1113
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 7: No, I'm telling you what.

1114
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 5: Uh So, there's many historians who say that Eddie Coach

1115
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 5: Turns was to the forward Pass with the Wright brothers

1116
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 5: word of aviation and what Thomas Edison was to the

1117
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 5: electric right to electric.

1118
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: Stuff again cross right chat GBT perplexity. What do you

1119
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: usually Gemini?

1120
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 7: Oh use Wikipedia of course.

1121
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well if you used Google, you used Gemini.

1122
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 4: More like more like lead to fact. He knows his stuff,

1123
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 4: that's right.

1124
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, please hey, Lee, what was the email

1125
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 2: I sent you last night, which you completely left out

1126
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: for the Michael Lobardi interview. What his current title is

1127
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: of all the things you just sent over to promote.

1128
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I forget what you said. I remember you called

1129
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 5: me lead to drunk, but uh and then I basically

1130
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 5: stopped stop reading what you had to write.

1131
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: Because I said he's the current general manager at North Carolina,

1132
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: which you did not include the email.

1133
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 7: Yes, I did, current GM of U n C. It's

1134
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 7: right there on the on the rundown.

1135
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: First thing on the rundown's not on the email.

1136
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 7: The email I sent you. It was about the book. Obviously,

1137
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 7: we know we're going to talk about you and Lee.

1138
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 7: What did he call?

1139
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 4: What did Brady call you?

1140
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 7: Lead a drunk? And then I stopped reading it?

1141
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 4: Really good, it's really good.

1142
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's so unbelievable.

1143
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I think without saying that we were gonna

1144
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 5: sending you information of things that you drunk.

1145
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: That's a T shirt.

1146
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 7: I gotta change that.

1147
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: On the zoom lead what so if he leads with

1148
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 4: the drunk, you're out. Yeah, I'm fire. Okay, I knew

1149
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 4: what I said.

1150
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: Don't get sensitive because I'm not all the time.

1151
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 4: It's fine.

1152
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not too sensitive about it. I'm just

1153
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 5: saying I didn't I didn't know that he's the current GM.

1154
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 4: Of the U n C.

1155
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 2: It's Barney from The Simpsons. You're fine.

1156
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Speaker 8: A