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Speaker 1: Welcome back to bachel Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us. We're so excited to be back. A hoy there,

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Speaker 1: Sailor Susan, how are you doing? Absolutely lovely. I'm having

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Speaker 1: an amazing time. We're going to tell you all about it.

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Speaker 4: So, Kathy, before we get into today's episode, let's talk

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Speaker 4: about last night's episode.

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Speaker 1: Wait, can I just say I was there? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was in Bachelor in Paradise and I was watching

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Speaker 1: the show going wait a minute, how did I miss that?

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Speaker 3: How did I miss.

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Speaker 1: That, Like, I don't even know where to begin, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we can talk about like you

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Speaker 1: tell me, like what are the biggest things for you?

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Speaker 1: Because I was blown away.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go from last to first. Obviously, when Faith

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Speaker 4: comes flying in on her horse, oh boy, here we go,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna get interesting.

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Speaker 1: Well that's going to be next week. I gotta stadio.

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Speaker 1: Last week when we talked, I talked about the word

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Speaker 1: of the week was vibing. The word this week is deaded.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, a week more time.

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Speaker 4: But when she gave him the rose Kathy.

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Speaker 1: I was so surprised. So let's go back for a second.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I love them both, truly. They are

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Speaker 1: dear so kind to me. I love them both. I mean,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I just have to say that girl

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Speaker 1: kind of should be a makeup artist. She's just amazing

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Speaker 1: with a like a paint palette. But they're so cute together.

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Speaker 1: So I really didn't know a lot of that was

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Speaker 1: going on, because when I when I see them on Paradise,

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Speaker 1: they're you know, I mean I saw a little bit

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Speaker 1: of running back and forth, but I'm watching the show

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Speaker 1: going Wait a minute, was I there?

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Speaker 4: He kissed somebody else, and she finally said, you know,

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Speaker 4: when were you.

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Speaker 2: Going to tell me?

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Speaker 1: Well, what did you think about that? Well?

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Speaker 4: I didn't like that whole attitude. It was a red

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Speaker 4: flag if I ever saw one.

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Speaker 1: I mean when he said change the channel, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then we started with the whole dead in it.

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Speaker 1: I still I have to tell you, I've been I've

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Speaker 1: been reading stuff on social media. People are writing dead

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Speaker 1: D he A D. People are writing debt d E

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Speaker 1: b T. I'm like, that's because debt is not a word.

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Speaker 1: But Dale, I love you anyway. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the hell it means.

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Speaker 4: But I kind of felt sorry for Jonathan to do

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Speaker 4: at which point many different times.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody was like friend zone.

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Speaker 4: And then towards the end, right before the Rose ceremony,

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Speaker 4: one she was he was kind of hoping because she

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Speaker 4: gave Rose.

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Speaker 1: I mean, see, I don't know whether you can call

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Speaker 1: me stupid or you know, totally involved with Keith and

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Speaker 1: the Goldens.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea any of that was going on.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan and I have just seene. Yeah, I get it. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we were all in the same place. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't like I just came in from Mexico City. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was there, but I don't know. So so that

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Speaker 1: whole thing, I have to say, shocked me. And I

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Speaker 1: was watching it right along with you and the rest

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Speaker 1: of Bachelor Nation. And I don't blame Jonathan for being surprised,

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Speaker 1: but honestly surprised April Goldest name well, so yeah, a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Although come on, we love April, but you know,

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Speaker 1: come on, as I said on another podcast that I'm

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Speaker 1: I said, come on, guys, it's April. She lives in

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Speaker 1: cougar Town. But you know, but April is just the

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Speaker 1: sweetest and I honestly, she did say that she wanted

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Speaker 1: that's very sweet of I.

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Speaker 4: Don't think she meant herself just to.

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Speaker 1: Say no, no, no, she didn't know. She said other girls,

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Speaker 1: other young women will be coming, and I thought it

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Speaker 1: was very sweet of April.

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Speaker 4: How about the jealousy when Jack was watching.

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Speaker 1: Wait Wait, Wait, before we go there again, I think

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Speaker 1: I was, you know, I don't know I was drowning

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Speaker 1: in the pool or you know, finding some tequila or something.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you I never knew that April was

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Speaker 1: making out with Jack? Do you know when I found

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Speaker 1: that out with you? When I watched it, I had

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Speaker 1: no idea. I had no idea, zero idea that she

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Speaker 1: had made up with Jack.

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Speaker 4: But then the other guy was flirting with her, and.

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Speaker 1: Jack's looking and looking and looking, and at the end

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Speaker 1: of who Kim who was plating with her? Kim.

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Speaker 4: I didn't like the way he let April downy, what

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Speaker 4: are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that was a little rough of Kim.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Kim saluting all the time?

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Speaker 1: I know he's captain in the Navy, but I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: stop saluting Kim. Okay, So let's talk about Gary and

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Speaker 1: Leslie's date. What did you think of that?

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Speaker 2: That was great?

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Speaker 4: They loved to dance, and I think Gary, I love

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Speaker 4: him to death because I know him. He's a sweetheart.

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Speaker 4: But he's playing.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean?

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Speaker 4: And he was he was leading on Natasha.

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Speaker 1: Okay, my heart. I felt so sorry for Natasha, Natasha,

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Speaker 1: Natasha said, In fact, I wrote it down. Natasha said

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Speaker 1: that she really liked Gary because he looks into your soul,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, and then she gave him the rose.

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Speaker 1: And the next day like, I'm watching the show going oh,

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Speaker 1: because I was so busy talking to other people. The

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Speaker 1: fact that you know, it was she just felt so heartbroken.

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Speaker 1: It really it's heartbreak. He's just set them.

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Speaker 4: And he's a flirtatious, fun kind of happy guy.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, and I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, Nancy. How about Nancy? Can we talk about

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Speaker 1: how fabulous Nancy? If you're listening, even if you're not listening,

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Speaker 1: you are absolutely stunningly gorgeous. You look beautiful. And she

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Speaker 1: walked in, what did she say? Something like that? You

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Speaker 1: don't think I missed this party? I might be late,

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Speaker 1: but I never miss it yet. I think it's great

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Speaker 1: that Nancy has arrived. I think you know, the guys

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Speaker 1: are excited. I mean, Nancy's just incredibly fabulous, So who

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be excited to see her. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see where that goes. I just I still can't believe

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Speaker 1: April Jack were making out. I just completely missed it. Susan,

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Speaker 1: I just okay, what about Alex and Andrew? Oh? I

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Speaker 1: love them?

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Speaker 2: And then Brian, Brian, and what.

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Speaker 1: Is going on again? I mean let me just tell

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Speaker 1: you there, I was good, good, And then I mean

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Speaker 1: that that's really tough. You were just walking.

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Speaker 4: Around looking good, Kath.

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Speaker 1: You look really You're so sweet. Wait, I got to

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Speaker 1: say one more thing, Leslie, who I adore? Leslie and

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Speaker 1: I had such a great time we were roommates. I

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Speaker 1: love you, Leslie. Her faces with Kim, did she look

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Speaker 1: in pain, like like he's trying to talk to her

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Speaker 1: like she does? And the poem and the poem he

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Speaker 1: wrote her, I mean she was looking away looking at

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Speaker 1: I mean, Leslie. I want to say, Leslie, come on,

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Speaker 1: but there's clearly, clearly her body language. But wait, one

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Speaker 1: more thing. I did not know again, I'm walking this

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Speaker 1: type rope here right because I was there and apparently

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Speaker 1: I was unconscious for part of the part of the

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Speaker 1: time I was there. But I did not know that

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Speaker 1: Keith said to Nancy that he had no romantic interest

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Speaker 1: in me. I mean, Keith and I are great friends.

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Speaker 1: I said it from the beginning of the show. But

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Speaker 1: when he said he had not, I was like, WHOA.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know to.

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Speaker 4: Nancy, as you guys were together the whole time, and

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Speaker 4: he said he's reassuring Nancy that's because he wants, obviously

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Speaker 4: to get to know Nancy. I can guarantee you know

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Speaker 4: there was no romantic feel I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to see where that goes. But

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Speaker 1: I all in all, I am proud of the Goldens.

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Speaker 1: I have to address one more.

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Speaker 4: Thing, and I have to address something.

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Speaker 1: Okay when okay, So when April gave the rose to Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: all I could think of was you just cannibalized three

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Speaker 4: And well you got to do the belly shot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was waiting for. Is that what you

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring up? Susan? I had never I.

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Speaker 4: Want to know how you felt hearing Keith tell Nancy.

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Speaker 4: Did it make you feel kind of weird or.

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Speaker 3: Not to be?

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Speaker 1: It made me feel something. But you have to remember

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Speaker 1: Keith and I I adore him. We have been friends.

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Speaker 1: We met at an iHeart, We've met at a couple

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Speaker 1: really Honestly, Keith has said many times he wants a

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Speaker 1: woman between fifty and sixty, and I'm not and that's okay.

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Speaker 1: You know, he can have whatever he wants, or may

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Speaker 1: or he can't, but you know that's fine. I think

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Speaker 1: that I agree with you, Susan. I think he was

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Speaker 1: trying to let Nancy know that he was open. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that Nancy. We're going to see what happens.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Nancy's open or not. But I

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Speaker 1: think if I'd had romantic, real romantic feelings for Keith,

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Speaker 1: it might have been hard. But Keith and are friends,

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Speaker 1: like you know, like if you told me you didn't

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Speaker 1: love me, Susan, I would cry because we're friends. I

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Speaker 1: know so. But I do think it was hard setting

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Speaker 1: had a lot of women and very few men, and

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Speaker 1: that makes it tough.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it changes it, you know, because there's hardly

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Speaker 4: anybody left and Nancy just getting there who I know

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Speaker 4: it's like for her for them.

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Speaker 1: Right well, and apparently now me and then Leah and

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Speaker 1: Sean came and they are fabulous, oh and just lovely people.

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Speaker 1: So it was a great week. It was a great week,

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Speaker 1: and I can't hardly wait for next week.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know, and she won't tell us anything

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Speaker 4: ahead of time.

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Speaker 3: That's right, I know the rule.

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Speaker 1: So okay, well I think it's time. Let's get into

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Speaker 1: the this week's episode.

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Speaker 2: So cat, where are we now? How amazing We're pulling

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Speaker 2: into Istanbul and one half is on Asia and the

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Speaker 2: other half is in Europe.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So I've never been. One of the

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Speaker 2: I used to ask Dad that do let me enjoy something?

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Speaker 2: We were young, and it was still like it wasn't

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Speaker 1: It's from anonymous. Okay, hi, Goathian Susan. I would love

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Speaker 1: to ask some dating advice. I'm in my mid twenties

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, us. We're still trying. We went

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Speaker 2: Now you know what, though, never dismiss or make your

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Speaker 2: step up to the game, buddy. Be proud of what

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Speaker 2: you've accomplished, right, Kathy, You don't want to hide the

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Speaker 2: fact that you're successful. You also don't want to plaut

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Speaker 1: But I think I think this is clearly I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: This anonymous person is a woman. And I think that you,

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Speaker 1: always put his career before yours if you've given him

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Speaker 1: permission to do that. Be independent, believe in yourself. Find

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Speaker 1: So move along and find a new guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: really ask the maturity thing. Will that get better with age?

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Speaker 2: I think it will only if the man was successful

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Speaker 2: Don't you want somebody that's in your corner, a rooting

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Speaker 1: It's like you said, I think it's like anything else, Susan.

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Speaker 1: I think there are men out there that want submissive women,

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Speaker 1: and you can celebrate both of your successes and don't

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: My answer to you this week is throw them overboard.

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Speaker 2: She's got a whole ors full of them honestly, that

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but don't ever do less show for you.

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Speaker 2: I also wouldn't bust his balls and say, well, you

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Speaker 2: or you don't want to do that either, But I think.

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Speaker 3: The other another little piece of advice.

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Speaker 1: You might think about dating somebody outside your industry. That's

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Speaker 1: another idea, you know, so that you don't have to

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Speaker 1: come into your life. So get go and start living

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Speaker 1: your life. Anybody that's jealous is not a keeper. That's

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Speaker 3: Wait would you date, Susan? Would you date?

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Speaker 2: I mean you didn't have a career in amends industry

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Speaker 2: Would our data guide I would have loved to. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it was any most men in the hair business

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Speaker 2: I think so, Yeah, I think the reality.

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Speaker 1: like to think that if you know, I went to

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00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: Harvard Law School and was law review, I could meet

438
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: and I was, you know, clerking on the Supreme Court,

439
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: that I could meet a guy that was doing the same.

440
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: But I sometimes think it's tough. I think it's sometimes

441
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: tough when you're in the same industry there's a competition.

442
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 2: That you're powerful.

443
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it can be I don't know. I think

444
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: I think it can go either way. It could be good,

445
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: it can be bad. But really find the guy, find

446
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: the person who make who adds to your life, that

447
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: doesn't take away from your life, that adds to your life.

448
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: That's the best advice I can give. And somebody that

449
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: supports you and your career as well.

450
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: All Right, thank you so much for sharing that with us,

451
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: and hopefully you'll take some advice and to never lower yourself. Okay.

452
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: The next one is also from anonymous. Dear Kathy and Susan.

453
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 2: I'm concerned my sixty five year old friend is being

454
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: love scanned, but I'm not one hundred percent sure. Six

455
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: months ago, she joined Blue Sky and saw that a

456
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: musician she liked was on the app, so started following

457
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: him very quickly. He messaged her directly and asked to

458
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: take their conversation to signal. Over the last six months,

459
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: they've messaged constantly, he seems to be love bombing her.

460
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: She started out skeptical it was really this country star,

461
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: but now is convinced. Even though they've never face timed

462
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: nor even spoken on the phone. He's never asked her

463
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: for money yet, but he also stridently refuses to speak

464
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: to her voice to voice or face to face, even

465
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: when she asked for a call on her birthday. He

466
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: says it's because he's famous. He wouldn't want anything recorded

467
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: and put out there with his without his permission. Oh boy,

468
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: I told her I was happy to go to a

469
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: concert with her and then she could go backstage. She

470
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: liked the idea, but he didn't. He claimed it was

471
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: because he was leaving right after the show that night

472
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 2: and the tour bus and he wouldn't have time, just

473
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: wouldn't have any time to spend with her. As you

474
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: can imagine, I'm still very skeptical that this person is

475
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: who he says he is. After six months of texting,

476
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: he's never once asked for a picture of her. What

477
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 2: man doesn't want to see a woman he loves, and

478
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 2: he's very hesitant to tell her much about the day

479
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: to day life. I'm concerned he's trying to pull something

480
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: over her. I'm just not sure what he does seem

481
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: to be making her happy. How do I support my

482
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: friend but not enable a possible scam?

483
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, I have a question before we even get

484
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: into this. I am lost. I'll tell you why. He

485
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: has not asked for money. They have not met, so

486
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: she's got a pen pail. Who now if Anonymous said

487
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: he's asked her for money, he wants her to fire

488
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: him an aeroplane ticket to come and visit her. And

489
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 1: oh he did, and she you know, she bought the ticket.

490
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: No weight, he couldn't come anything like that. That's a scam.

491
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: But this guy, but he just.

492
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: Hasn't gotten there yet. How could you go.

493
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: On six months? He Askedn't that's for money yet?

494
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: I would definitely have gone to that concert. You don't

495
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: tell him next time he supposedly is performing number one,

496
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: number two, his star name, country name. Okay, look him up,

497
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 2: make sure you know what he looks like, and when

498
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 2: you show up to a place where he's performing, and

499
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: see that's not a person that you looked up. Then

500
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: you know. But eventually there are millions of scammers out there.

501
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: I had guys one that wouldn't talk to me on

502
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: the phone, and I refused to talk to him anymore,

503
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: email anything. Finally I get a phone call and if

504
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: you couldn't tell the man was nineteen years old just

505
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: from his voice it. Later I got chocolates, I got

506
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: a stuffed animal. I'm like, are you kidding me? Seriously?

507
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: Because I'm going to something our friend you are on

508
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: to something she.

509
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: Is, but nothing has happened. So if I were you anonymous,

510
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: I would say, look, I'm glad that you like Billy Joe,

511
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: Sammy Charlie country star, but he's likely to not be

512
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: who he says he is, So you know what, I'm

513
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: glad he makes you happy. I'm glad having a pen

514
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: palm makes you happy. But if he asks you for money,

515
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm guessing maybe some of this has already happened and

516
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: her friend isn't telling the truth. That would be my

517
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: guess that there's already been some money that's changed hands.

518
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: So I try to have a really serious conversation with

519
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: your friend about scammers. You know, it's just so sad

520
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: that golden people sometimes are so lonely that they are

521
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: driven to having the these scam relationships, thinking it's something

522
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: more than what it is, which is a scam. And

523
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: I think it's really sad. So I think you gotta

524
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: have a conversation with her. At the end of the day,

525
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: you gotta you know, it's her life. You gotta let go,

526
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 1: just like read the writing on the wall. Six months.

527
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't want your picture, you can't have his picture.

528
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense. And as a friend, you're right.

529
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: You're watching her be happy, pick the right moment. It's

530
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: not going to be fun. Just say, babe. So many

531
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: people have gotten scammed. I know he hasn't asked for anything,

532
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: but when.

533
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: Will you draw the line where you have to meet,

534
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: make eye contact or happy if you're okay with having

535
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: a pen pal, I mean, if that's all you want

536
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: out of it, well never meet.

537
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: So be it well, he says, she Anonma says he

538
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: seems to be love bombing or I want to know

539
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: how he's love bombing or other than calling her, he's

540
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: saying stuff, he's typing it right, But that to me,

541
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: to me, maybe you know that's all this sixty five

542
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: year old woman wants. Maybe that works for her. We

543
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: don't know, but anonaus, have the conversation with your good friend,

544
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: find out what she wants. I'm guessing she may have

545
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: already sent him some money, because you know what, men

546
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: who are scammers don't stick around for six months unless

547
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: they're getting something out of the deal. So I hate

548
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: to say that, but I dig a little deeper.

549
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: I hope you're a little bit of friends there on time,

550
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: but you know what, you're going to have to pick

551
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: up the pieces because she's going to feel crushed afterwards.

552
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: You know, I don't even if you're her best friend,

553
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: don't even tell her you go take a lot of pictures.

554
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't think she knows if h

555
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: what the country stars go to you know, he's I mean,

556
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: she could go to the concert and Sam, she's not

557
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get to the stage.

558
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: Wh whatever. Anyway, Anonymous, good luck.

559
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: The problem here is you can't help your friend if

560
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: she's on the road to destruction. All you can do

561
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: is try to talk to her and see where it goes.

562
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: But I hate that Golden people are lonely and driven

563
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: to online conversations that lead to nowhere.

564
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: I think it's sad, and six months is a long time. Yeah,

565
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: get as Yeah, it's sad.

566
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: Let us know.

567
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: We wish you all the best luck talking to your

568
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: friend though. All right, Today we're gonna do a Golden

569
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: spotlight where we talk about something that impacts the Golden

570
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: community beyond scamming. All right, today we're going to talk

571
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: about travel in your golden years. My favorite conversation, Okay,

572
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: my favorite things do Okay, how you know when you're young,

573
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: I've met kids. My kids pack a backpack and go

574
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: to Europe for six weeks. I don't think they changed

575
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: their clothes. We don't do that anymore. So how do

576
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: you plan a trip that's right for you? Because I

577
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: bet we do it differently. How do I plan a

578
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: trip that's right for me? Usually it's someplace new.

579
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: I know what it is I like, so I do

580
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: some investigations and start there.

581
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: So I would I would be lying if I didn't

582
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: say to you, I love like. One of the reasons

583
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm loving the screwise it's all planned for me, not

584
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: just the meals.

585
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: She does love that season, where we got did you

586
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: get place?

587
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: My husband? My husband.

588
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: My husband planned all of our vacations and they were

589
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: always incredible. Because I've always said this, I feel lucky

590
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: if I'm in a foreign country and seeing, you know,

591
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: incredible things. I'm just happy because I'm seeing things I've

592
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: never seen before. So a trip that's right for you

593
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: is just somebody else planning it.

594
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: That's well, no, not always.

595
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying what's right for me is is is doing

596
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: some really physical activities, you know, some hiking, some walking,

597
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: visiting some famous sites, having days for relaxing. The point

598
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: is planning what you like, and sometimes that means planning

599
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: it yourself, and sometimes it means going along with others.

600
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: And then the second one being finding excursions that work

601
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: for you, which I think you already just said.

602
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think you like to do right.

603
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 2: And if there's two of them going, you always consider

604
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: the other person and what their enjoyment is, right.

605
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Susan and I are been shopping. This cruise

606
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: has been really interesting. Susan loves to shop, no surprise there.

607
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: I've done a fair bitish to but I love going

608
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: to the historical sites just to see them because I'll,

609
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, see in the Acropolis, so once in a

610
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: lifetime opportunity seeing the the in Stumbuls, seeing the blue

611
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: Mosque and seeing the sister these these structures that are

612
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: so old and so historic. I like to do a mix,

613
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: So I think you have to. If you're going with

614
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: a friend, you have to consider what they like and

615
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: what you like.

616
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I said. And being in Greece, this

617
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: is my second time and I got to see all that,

618
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: but I definitely did it all with you again, except

619
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: that morning, I didn't need to go back in there. Okay.

620
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: With that being said, Hell, oh wait, how to coordinate

621
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 2: with friends that have busy lives.

622
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: Just like you?

623
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: I set a day to me discuss the facts. Who's

624
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: going to get this done? Who's going to do the airlines?

625
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: Like?

626
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: It's a team effort. And if you know something he's

627
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: not real good at it, then don't put them in

628
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: the mix. Just tell them how much of it?

629
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and pick a date far enough in advance.

630
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah it works for everybody, right, all right? How often

631
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: did you how often should you be traveling? Oh? I

632
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: don't know, what are you? What are you doing next week?

633
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: Susan and it depends on your budget.

634
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: Well, that's.

635
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: I feel very to and and the reason I get

636
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: to do a lot because I have all these miles

637
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: because I fly a lot of places, and then you

638
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: build up miles and like your trip, the only thing

639
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: you need is the place to stay. Sometimes the airline

640
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: will crush you. But yeah, if you push towards that,

641
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 2: it does help.

642
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know.

643
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: I I think you should travel as often as you

644
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: can afford to and as often as you feel comfortable

645
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: leaving home. I mean it's just that simple. Okay, Where

646
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: are the best places to travel?

647
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: That's that's up to the individual, of course. Yeah, Like

648
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: we just were celebrating this cruise where we're really having

649
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: a nice time. And I've been on several and I

650
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: remember telling cap usually by day five I'm done, I

651
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: want to get off, and this was an eleven night

652
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: cruise and I got nervous.

653
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: But are so good.

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Speaker 1: So far so that I think the best plit for

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Speaker 1: me though, The best places to travel are.

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Speaker 3: I think you and I just talked about this today.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's a mix of walking, energizing, you know, exercising,

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Speaker 1: seeing historical sites, and then having some days we had

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Speaker 1: just sit with a tequila and soda on a beach

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Speaker 1: and relax.

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Speaker 2: Right, My making is the beach. I like a pretty beach.

662
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Speaker 2: I like good music. Yeah yeah, yeah. I enjoy coming

663
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Speaker 2: to Europe, I really do. But I'm an island girl.

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Speaker 2: I've done them all several times. But I go in

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Speaker 2: to the Greek Islands, or the Italian Mediterranean or the

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Speaker 2: French Mediterranean.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say Susan has done her time in

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Speaker 1: Tumble and the historic sites. If anybody wants to talk

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Speaker 1: to Susan in the next week, get out your orange

670
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Speaker 1: juice cans and string because she's going to be on

671
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Speaker 1: a beach, So call for her loudly among the waves,

672
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Speaker 1: because that's me.

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Speaker 3: That's the only place you're going to bude her. Nick.

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Speaker 1: So wait, I have one more question, Susan. When you

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Speaker 1: say the best place to travel, I'm I'm a mix

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Speaker 1: of wanting to go back to places I've been and

677
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Speaker 1: then go to places I've never been.

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Speaker 3: Are you the same?

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I do have favorites that I'll frequent, you know,

680
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: me and Saint Martin. I've been going for fifteen years

681
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Speaker 2: Italy six times. This is my second time in Greece.

682
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Speaker 2: I like European vacations. I really enjoy it. Like you said,

683
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Speaker 2: it's it's culture as well as history and beautiful water.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and great?

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Speaker 1: Okay once, wait, can I say one other great thing

686
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Speaker 1: about cruising? I'm vye for a job on the cruise lines.

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Speaker 1: Do you let those people are.

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Speaker 3: Hard?

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Speaker 1: But do you love the fact that we pack our

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Speaker 1: suitcases in your my case, you know, several suitcases. But

691
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Speaker 1: then we get it, We unpack and we don't have

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Speaker 1: to pack again. We get to see different places, go

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Speaker 1: to different countries, go to different stocks, but we don't

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Speaker 1: have to pack.

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Speaker 3: But we didn't have to pack up. We didn't have

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Speaker 3: to pack up.

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Speaker 2: I love that unpacked and move in and good down

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Speaker 2: the hall that's right steps.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever?

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Speaker 1: I want the truth. I know the answer, but I

701
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Speaker 1: just want to hear you say it to you know,

702
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Speaker 1: because no one else is listening.

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Speaker 3: Do you.

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Speaker 1: Did you travel differently when you were younger? Did you

705
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Speaker 1: pack less, clothes, less, shoes less?

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Speaker 3: Never? Yeah?

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00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: Now I was, and I knew we only had certain

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Speaker 2: bags that we were allowed to carry, and I would

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Speaker 2: how much stuff I have in here? But when you're

710
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Speaker 2: a flight attendant and you're working, you don't need a

711
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Speaker 2: lot of stuff like you have your if you had

712
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Speaker 2: twenty four hour layover, you need an outfit or two.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Can I can I call

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Speaker 3: you out? Susan.

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Speaker 1: Susan is literally every day when we're gonna get up

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Speaker 1: and do something, she'll say, oh no, these shoes, these

717
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Speaker 1: won't be comfortable. I need them because they go with

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Speaker 1: this outfit. Kathy other hand is in flip flops, saying

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it goes through it or not.

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Speaker 3: Flip flops it is. I mean, I still pack more

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Speaker 3: than money.

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Speaker 2: Wait, guys, you're not ready for this. Get ready to

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Speaker 2: sit down. You're going to lift okay it? Oh boy,

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Speaker 2: miss fancy pants?

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Speaker 3: Every what are you wearing?

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Speaker 2: Susan? We're going to the chapel without a chapel, the

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Speaker 2: mob mosque. You know you have to have your shoulder stuff.

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Speaker 2: You can't wear that. You can't wear that. I'm wearing this, Susan.

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Speaker 2: And she has a little take, but she brings her

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Speaker 2: wrap for your head. I did as well.

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Speaker 3: Wait, excuse me, I have to interrupt you. Whoa whoa,

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Speaker 3: whoa whoa?

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Speaker 1: What I had on long sleeve and a long dress

734
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Speaker 1: and Susan's right. I was like, Susan, you cannot wear

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Speaker 1: a spaghetti strap dress. You have to wear you have

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Speaker 1: to be covered. You cannet that out there because I

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Speaker 1: was worried she was gonna get thrown out of the mosque.

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Speaker 3: Okay, continue Susan.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's exactly what I said. She was telling

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Speaker 2: me I had a tiny cat too, that you can

741
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Speaker 2: do that. Okay. I was prepared. I was prepared. People,

742
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Speaker 2: mind you putting the arapp on my head. I got pictures.

743
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Speaker 2: The sweat, I was sweating my ansl So we get

744
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: up there. Now Kathy's one. She gets excited, all right,

745
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: she gets excited. She leaves you in the dust. She's gone.

746
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Speaker 2: I was video and her six people aheads cuts them off.

747
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: Scan't weait to get in? We have to get the tickets.

748
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: Next thing I know, they're hand in her some potato sack.

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Speaker 2: I got pictures. I promise she had a tiny Now

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Speaker 2: her dress was like MIDI almost to the ankle but not,

751
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Speaker 2: and she had maybe a six in s slit nothing.

752
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: Trust me, though she had to wear daya sag. I

753
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: was being my pants.

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 5: You just can't make it up. Men at shorts One

756
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 5: day had to wear it. She had the scarf on

757
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Speaker 5: her head, the lol sleeve and a bloop data.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you, I couldn't stop laughing. Oh,

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00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: and then we take our shoes off. We had to

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Speaker 1: take our shoes off. And then when we're leaving the mosque,

761
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: Susan just stopped right there on the on the royal

762
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Speaker 1: carpet putting her shoes on. The guy's going not on

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Speaker 1: the ruck, not on the ruck, and Susan, She's.

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Speaker 5: Like, not like walking barefoot with all those barefooted twice you.

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Speaker 1: So let me say, these are just some of our travals,

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Speaker 1: some of our adventures on our crew so far. I

767
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: will say it was the most embarrassing moment that when

768
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Speaker 1: I have to scarp over my head the long sleeve

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Speaker 1: shirt on the long dress.

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Speaker 2: Best pictures, Kathy, You even could no get a picture.

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Speaker 1: It really, it was one of the most But you

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Speaker 1: know what I have to say, it was I respect

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Speaker 1: I respect the religion, I respect the culture, and I

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Speaker 1: respect their rules. So I happily put on my potato

775
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Speaker 1: sack and went in and loved the mosque.

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Speaker 2: The sad part was she was prepared. She made sure

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Speaker 2: she had the right thing and she didn't even know

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Speaker 2: there was a sixth inch. I mean, trust me, people,

779
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't a slit of her thigh.

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Speaker 3: It showed me.

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00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: I don't know sign so hard to prepare me.

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Speaker 3: As you can tell.

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Speaker 1: As you can tell, we are having a blast on

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Speaker 1: this cruise. Like I said, we're just I just think

785
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to sign up for another one and

786
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Speaker 1: knock her home.

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Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna have to bail her out

788
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Speaker 3: of jail.

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Speaker 5: With the cab driver, the squitty Kathy, we take this

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Speaker 5: taxi on the way home.

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Speaker 2: We stop and ask the gentleman where do we get tacks?

792
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: We wanted to be back here so we could shower

793
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Speaker 2: for dinner and so on. So that one man tells us, oh, no, no,

794
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Speaker 2: you don't take a yellow taxi here. The riff wobs.

795
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Speaker 2: We're like, oh, how do we find a way? We

796
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Speaker 2: always take a yellow taxi. He says, be careful, tells

797
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Speaker 2: us where the train is. So off we go up

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Speaker 2: the street. Everybody approaches you here. Well, we make two

799
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Speaker 2: more friends that we're asking that, right, Kathy. So she

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Speaker 2: sees the one by. I didn't see this part. He

801
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Speaker 2: was asking the cab driver how much, right, you said

802
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Speaker 2: you saw no.

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Speaker 1: I know this is not my first rodeo. I said

804
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Speaker 1: how much to take us back to the port. He

805
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: said the name of the port. I said, yes, that

806
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Speaker 1: is the port. I said how much? And he said

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Speaker 1: thirty euro? I said no way, and he said, all right,

808
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Speaker 1: twenty euros. So I said, okay, we get in and

809
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: we're driving. And now he says thirty euro because it's

810
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: ten yards across the bridge. Let me just cut the

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Speaker 1: story very short. It does not cost twenty years. I said,

812
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: the sisen, we're getting out. She's like, looks me like,

813
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm crazy. The guy's going forty miles. I said, I'm

814
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Speaker 1: getting out. She would she held me back. We paid

815
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Speaker 1: about thirty years. You cannot we walking for seven straight hours? Gap,

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Speaker 1: it's ten extra euro.

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Speaker 3: Just eat it.

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Speaker 2: We're leading all the way. And then I said, the

819
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Speaker 2: cat that going over the bridge. Where's the toll? Cat,

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Speaker 2: I don't see it.

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Speaker 3: There's no toll. She got no toll. Where did it

822
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Speaker 3: tell you.

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Speaker 2: That it's ten dollars? She goes on the way back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was ridiculous. Let me just say, you've

825
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: heard the song. You've heard the song.

826
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Speaker 1: I left my heart in San Francisco, I left my

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Speaker 1: last ten euros in Istanbul with a taxi driver.

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Speaker 3: All right, this has been too much fun. He's at

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Speaker 3: the age in Europe. Was that the ten dollars?

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Speaker 2: Maybe?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Okay, as you all can tell, we're having a barrel

833
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: of fun. But we really want to thank you, guys,

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835
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836
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Speaker 1: jail for not paying the taxi fees, but we'll do

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