WEBVTT - Legacy Panel - Defensive Line 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:22.920 Okay, we got some big guys up here, impact players 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.400 for your Chicago Bears, some of the most dominant defensive 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:30.120 lineman in NFL history. Up Here, we got Hall of Famers, 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:34.880 all decade performers, Pro Bowlers, many members of the scat 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:38.120 Bruk one hundred. We got a lot of guys and 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.080 a lot of good stories to talk about. Thanks for 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.320 joining us, everybody. Hope everybody's doing Okay, we're doing good 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:49.040 out there. We're gonna show him some love big time 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:53.159 there watching these guys roll in here and hey, I'm 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.080 a little guy. You're an offensive lineman. You were a 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.160 big guy. These guys are bigger. This would have been 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:03.080 intimidating now time he's slimmed up, time he's slimmed up. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.520 But he was a big guy. This is some nasty 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:08.800 up here. You know. My earliest memories of Bear's greatness 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.720 is Ed o'bradovich because he used to be around the 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.400 locker room a lot. And then when I started looking 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.080 at information, you see the interviews of how much it 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.119 meant for him to be a Bear, his player greatness 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.759 and everything he meant to the defensive line and defensive 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.520 reputation of the Chicago Bears, and then you know, being 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.360 teammates with Half and Chris and stuff, and there he 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:41.800 is right there, Ed o'bradovitch, baby number eighty seven. You 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.240 think of Obi and Doug Gatkins on the same defensive line, 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.800 the destruction they caused back then, and you think it 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.280 can talent transfer from one year to the next. There's 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.480 two guys that could play twenties, thirties, forties, fifties and 0:01:55.640 --> 0:02:02.040 so on. It's bear greatness, Ed. When you see those 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.960 highlights of yourself, what goes through your mind? I'd like 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:15.760 to be playing today? You know WHOA look at you move? Baby? 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.919 You know what? I sit there and I look at this. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:27.680 And football in any decade is real serious business. And 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:31.360 I played in what people would call the most violent 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.360 decade of football, and that was in the nineteen sixties. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.080 And there was one rule, and that one rule was 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:43.840 there was no rules. We had a coach by the 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.960 name of George Allen who was in the Hall of Fame, 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.960 and he was our defensive coordinator, and he came up 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:57.480 with defenses and maneuvers and and settings that we play opponents. 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.240 We would annihilate them. They didn't know what the hell 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:04.000 we were doing, had no idea. And one of the 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.560 things that George came up and you see it in 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.720 today's game and all of them. You'll see where the 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.519 back will come in and check to see if anybody's 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.480 coming inside, and if not, then he wheeled around the 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.480 defensive end for a six hired hook or out in 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:24.000 the flat or something. Well, when they played his Cargo Bears, 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.840 you couldn't do that because George Allen came up with 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:31.239 a thing called hanging. And what that meant was you'd 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.440 never let them back come out around you. When you're 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.440 rushing that passer and that back comes around her, you 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.080 hang you. You try to catch him right in the 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:46.360 throat and bring him down. That's back hey ed. And 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:50.800 then one more thing, and then there was another terminology, 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:55.160 how about hanging, and this one was ground them And 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.880 when that came from, that came from the ends end. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.760 So the defensive tackles was an even number, an over 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.000 shift to the street and stronger weekside whatever. And if 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.880 you let that back, you'd never let it back get through. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.000 Because he did the same thing. He came up and 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:11.960 they tried to sneak through the middle of the line, 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.000 and you know, they're always the outlet pass. And again 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:19.039 you see in every game every week. Now it doesn't matter. Well, 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.560 when they played the Parsity get through, those guys tried 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.560 sneaking by, you know, getting lows and either Fred Williams 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.000 or something. I mean, they'd wack him and drop him 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:33.320 like a sack assault. And earlier we had Dick Buckets 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.159 out here, and he was talking about some of the 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.640 tackles he made against the Green Bay Packers. He said, 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.880 the reason he was able to make the tackles is 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.320 because you had three guys on top of you blocking you, 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.120 and he had no one else to block him, so 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.680 he would just run and make the play. And that's 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.680 the sacrifice, sacrifice of every great defensive lineman. Well, I'll 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.800 tell you what, guys, I wish the hell they would 0:04:54.800 --> 0:05:04.640 have paid me like that, you know when I heard 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.320 And you young guys, let me tell you something. To 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.120 get every damn figuring yet, because I'll tell you when 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.880 it's over, it's over and you get out into the 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:18.320 real world. But I'll tell you what. The Chicago Bears 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:22.960 are the footing and the foundation of the National Football 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:31.680 League and since since nineteen forty six, and again this 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:35.200 is what the hell gripes me. Nineteen forty six, we 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:40.279 won the World Championship twice, sixty three and then eighty five. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.800 Now enough's enough. I think what I see today in 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:47.400 this coaching staff, and I see the enthusiasm with this 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.479 young team, and they better come and they better get it, 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.200 because I'll tell you what, folks, You're not gonna see 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.960 these guys playing at this level for five years, seven years, 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.679 ten years. It's not gonna happen. It's in front of them. 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.960 They better see it. And I like the Bears a lot, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:10.240 but I'll tell you it's up to those kids. You know, 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.040 a Keem Hicks, you're one of the guys on the 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.800 front line tearing it up. Great advice from a from 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.040 a veteran like this from the nineteen sixty three championship team. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.520 I know you are interested in in in seeing these 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.920 guys and talking to these guys as fellow defensive lineman. 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.400 But it's interesting to hear the old stories and how 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.479 you try to fit it into today's world, isn't it? 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.360 In terms of football. He's got my blood boiler right now. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.479 I'm sorry, Look I'm juiced up. I'm ready to go play, 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:44.760 right now, Um, the question was, Yeah, it's awesome, man, 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:46.240 to see the history of the Bears and see the 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.600 guys that I watched growing up, even though I had 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.440 to watch some of them on NFL films, and I 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.880 got to meet guys like Tommy Harris and watch guys. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.320 It's um for me. I love the game of football, right, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.760 So I got to watch these guys and it gave 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.000 me something to aspire to, and so it was just 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.599 a pleasure to be up here with them. Dan Hampton, 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:08.080 I know a man means everything to you. Ob you guys, 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.000 are you guys are tethered? Well, there's there's no doubt 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:16.119 in my mind that you know. And you can listen 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.960 to this man talk for about three minutes and just 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:24.880 realize how much he cared about playing the game of football. 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.040 Four the Chicago Bears. Let me tell you something, folks. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.520 You know, and this doesn't just happen by osmosis. You 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:38.440 have to you have to have a core that refuses 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:44.080 to lose and that sixty three championship team. And you know, 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.480 when I first got here, I was very fortunate. After 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:52.600 a year or two buckets, ob, some of the guys 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.680 they took a liking to me, and I would go 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.360 out to eat dinner with them and they would tell 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:01.200 me what it was like to play the game at 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.560 the level that you have to if you want to 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:08.960 be a world champion, and Mango and I we would 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.000 talk about it, and what you know, we'd go back 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.640 to the locker room and we're saying, Hey, whatever we're 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.280 doing now, it's not enough. There's a reason why they 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.800 want a world championship. We have to take it upon 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.640 ourselves to do what we have to do for us 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.360 to win one and a team. I mean, that's exactly 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:30.280 what Ed is saying right now. The time is now, 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:38.440 seize the moment. Let's get it done. Twenty nineteen now. Yeah, 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:51.360 you know, if I can interject something right now, everybody 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.760 up here has played the game enough years. You know, 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.319 good times and bad times are different. Whatever. But I'm 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.120 gonna tell you what, and I say what. I see 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:05.360 this Bears defense, and there has to be there has 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.280 to be pressure from the outside. Okay, I get that, 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:13.600 I understand that. But a great pass rushing team where 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:24.640 the pressure comes from the inside. And let me explain 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.240 one more thing to you. You could be at the 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.199 defensive end. I would love to have a Dan Ampton, 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.959 a team picks or somebody, because what you see with 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.200 quarterbacks when they escape, they always do that step up 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:42.240 and go either left or right and sneak out with 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:46.640 the bears. Right now, you cannot do that, and why 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.080 because basically, this one guy takes two or three people 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:55.200 and the quarterback can't come up the middle. He can't, 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.480 So that who the hell's out there waiting for number 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:06.199 fifty two? The kids a man eater. This is the 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.360 guy that makes it happen. As far as I'm concerned, 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.160 I think, I think, Oh, he's doing a radio show 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:20.400 right now. You're awesome. You are awesome, all right? And 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.840 the Lovey Smith four three defense, the three technique defensive 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:35.560 tackle was Tommy Harris and and love Ee. Tommy always 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:40.199 called you the engine, the engine for the four three defense. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.520 Did you live and breathe that label that he gave you, 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.199 and did you play like that to be the engine 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.520 of that defense? Yeah? I knew I was going to 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.559 be an important part to the defense, especially since I've 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.640 been running this defense since I've been in high school. 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.920 So the cover to the same Tampa two watching one 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.960 and SAP growing up, John Randall and I knew that 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.120 it all starts with me. If I don't make the play, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.520 I disrupt every blocking scheme, I kid, And that's all 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:13.880 I did. We did more than that three time Pro 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:19.320 Bowler Outstanding Member. Every time. Every time a Packer goes down, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.440 the place goes nuts. It's kind of funny. And Chris Orts, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:26.839 being a local kid from Chicago, watching all this here 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.760 and all this, you're just grinned over there. Yeah, but 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.160 he comes from the same high school as Dick Buckets. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.920 So when you're Chris Zorts, you're not coming in here 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.320 without the knowledge of what bear greatness can be. And 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.000 when it comes out of your same neighborhood there's a 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.280 certain little bit of ankst that goes with that. Also, Well, 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:47.679 first of all, this is very exciting. I mean the 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:52.199 idea and you can hear the passion that all these 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.040 guys up your half and that's what it takes to 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.480 play defense and Tom no offense. You know, I know 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.800 you're an offensive lineman, but the idea that you have 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.720 to give one hundred and ten percent every play is important. 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.319 But then you can see it years later. I mean, 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.480 we still have that same passion to go out and 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:17.640 crush quarterbacks and crush running backs and try and crush 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.559 offensive lineman. I know when I first got to the Bears, 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.360 it was just an amazing experience for me because I 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.000 was kind of grew up in Chicago, but having a 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.280 chance to practice against Tom every day really taught me 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.680 how to be a better defensive lineman. So, Tom, I 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.640 know you put me on my back a lot of time, 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.040 so I just want to say thank you for doing that. Well, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.760 you know, when you talk about passion, when I got here, 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.480 my passion came through hamp through McMichael because I admired 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.440 their commitment to the game so much. And it's different 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:50.839 when you watch them from the outside in then you 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:54.320 become teammates with them, and it's the same thing you 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.560 know with Halp and you see a guy that prepares 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.920 to be great ends up being a Hall of Famer, 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.760 and that's commit to the game. It's like ed Old 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:06.080 Bradovitch being around us. You could see the similarities between 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.640 ed Old Bradovitch and Dan Hampton. Now I see it 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.599 between Tommy and a team. There's a lot of similarities 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.520 in defensive linemen. And like I said before, you're sitting 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.320 up here because you're great football players and great X Bears, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.400 And I think it's the commitment to the game at 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:26.040 all of you guys have given Dan in the forty six, 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:31.800 when Buddy moved you over the center, You're pretty much 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.400 impossible to deal with one on one. There's no way 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:39.680 that's happening. Did that trigger something bigger and special with 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:45.440 the unit? Well, and obviously the design of the defense 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:50.880 is what it is. It wasn't infallible, but it was 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:55.439 a combination of the talents that we had. And think 0:13:55.480 --> 0:14:00.400 about this. I saw Bill parcels Less November and I 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:04.439 sat down and we talked down in Florida, and essentially 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.840 what he was saying was, you know, we play against 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.800 you know, the Jets, there's really nobody we got to 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:17.280 worry about. But when we play against the Bears, who's 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.840 gonna block Hampton, who's gonna block Dent, who's gonna block McMichael, 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.520 who's gonna block Otis Wilson, Who's gonna handle Wilbur Marshall. 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:30.320 There were so many terrific players that it created almost 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:35.880 not only a schematic advantage, but it almost became a 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.560 race to the quarterback, a race to the running back, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:43.040 because you had great players feeding on each other. But 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.440 you know, I'm flattered by the thought of you know, 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.680 meet being on the nose. And it was it was 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:52.320 an ingenious design because if you have a player that 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.200 a center can't block one on one, then the rest 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.480 of the dominoes start to fall. You got to double him. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.040 Then somebody else has got to blocked down on the tackle, 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.400 and then next thing you know, you got free runners 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.920 on the edge. So, buddy, he was a genius. And 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.360 wherever he went, he had the number one defense in Minnesota, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.520 and then he came here, we were the number one 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.160 defense for I think five years in a row. Then 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.840 he goes to Philadelphia, he had the number one defense, 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.360 then he went to Houston at the number one defense. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:29.360 He always realized the talents of the individual players, and 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:34.000 again we had an embarrassment of riches of great players, 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:39.000 and it was a sum total of all concern But 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.320 what my dear friend ed was saying a minute ago, 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:48.080 the NFL forever in a day will be about blocking 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.640 and tackling. And if you can have someone defeat blocks 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.400 on a regular basis, you can't move the ball against him. 0:15:55.760 --> 0:16:00.120 And the nineteen sixty three Championship team had Doug Atkins 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:08.520 and Edelbradovic and all these other legendary names and players. Well, 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.240 it was the same way on the eighty five team. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.400 We had amazing players. I think the year we went 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.080 to the Super Bowl, seven or eight of us on 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.760 defense alone played in the Pro Bowl. I mean that 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:27.160 that's pretty good. And you and you start to see 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:31.160 it again. We all know Khalil Mack is special, he 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:36.040 really is. Eddie Jackson is special, Danny the middle linebacker, 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:42.760 Danny Trevathan special. But at all it all starts up front. 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:47.080 Eddie Goldman is getting better and better by the game, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:51.160 by the year. But mag no mistake, this team, this 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:55.480 defense will rise our fall on the backs of this 0:16:55.520 --> 0:17:05.440 guy right over here at number ninety six, a half 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:11.520 then six time All Pro. If you would you all right, 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.000 nose guard, defensive tackle, defensive end, wherever you play, you're 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.200 gonna be All Pro. What hammen is if you would 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.600 have stayed at one position your whole career, would you 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.320 have been more dominant or did your dominance come out 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.399 because you could control any position, Well, it would have 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:32.199 been boring. That's for starters, you know. And see when 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.919 I got here, I was drafted as a defensive tackle, 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.280 but Tommy Harris and Al Harris got hurt in training kimp, 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.600 so they moved me to end and I like playing in. 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:46.120 And then when Alan Page retired, they moved me inside 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.880 the defensive tackle and I played there. And then when 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:54.280 we drafted William Perry, he couldn't play in, so I 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.280 had to go back out to end. And then at 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.520 the end they moved me back inside because after eleven 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.199 knee operations, I would slowed down. I couldn't turn the 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.679 corner no more. So I went back inside. But you 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.320 know it doesn't matter. I would play anywhere they wanted 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.440 me to play. That helped the team. And you know, 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.600 you gotta be unselfish, and I gotta tell you, and 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:21.640 I hate to keep pointing at a keem, but when 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.000 a chem is dominant and he's fresh, especially you know 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:29.680 early in games, he forces the offense to do so 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:36.280 much that Leonard, Floyd and and Mac they enjoy the 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:40.720 benefits of a chem, you know, destroying the interior part 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.560 of the line and having a double and sag and 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.160 the backs having a step up. Well they know they've 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.080 got a one on one rush. And when you have 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.640 a one on one rush man. Hey, if you're a pro, 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.800 you're gonna beat somebody. So at the end of the day, 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.480 I was just trying to do everything I could to 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.480 be wherever I needed to be to help the team. 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.119 I'll tell you what, you guys keep talking about. Biggat 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:06.320 came here. He's bought, ready to play about right now, 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.840 he's getting fired up. I mean, it's got It must 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:14.119 be very flattering to hear this. Getting to meet I 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.840 actually got to meet Dan. It was a year ago 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:18.760 or year and a half ago, and it was at 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.080 Soldier Field and it was upstairs, and I'm a big guy, 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.080 right and I walk around and I'm towering over people, 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.720 and uh, you know, it's a different feeling. But when 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:29.560 I met him and I got to shake his hand, 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:32.800 I realized how massive and strong of a man he 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:36.320 really is. Because at his age, he still feels strong. 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:38.960 Like it's a different kind of being. You know. I 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:40.920 had the same feeling when I got to meet m 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.840 Kyle's dad, mister Long and um, you know those guys 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.360 were they're just made different, you know what I mean. 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.879 And so it's a huge compliment for him to say that. Uh, 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:51.560 you know, it makes me want to put it on 0:19:51.600 --> 0:20:00.080 my back even more and just go out and destroy. 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:06.800 And speaking of men mean being made different, Doug Atkins 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:11.400 was made different. Well who he speaking of is Doug Atkins. 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:16.040 Doug was played seventeen years in the National Football League, 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.159 most of them with the Bears. Doug was six to 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.959 eight and way to eighty. And not only that, when 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.800 he went to University of Tennessee he was on the 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.760 track team. Guess what he did. He high jumped, you know, 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:33.200 high high jumped six eight. He is six eighth and 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.680 he way to eighty. He way to fifty at the 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:40.720 time in college. So we had the players and everything, 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:44.560 but I'm gonna tell you something, what's more important is 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.960 ownership and the coaching staff. My god, we were so 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:52.200 grateful to have a George Allen. How about a buddy 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:57.920 Ryan Folks in eighty five. These people are so important. 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:01.240 They understand the game. They when the trick, when not 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.199 the trick, when the blitz, when overset the line went 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:08.080 underset a line, and you just got to put it together. 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.280 And I just want to say just one more time. 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.359 I don't mean to talk in circles here, but I 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:18.840 cannot tell you we thought we were gonna win it. 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.040 We won in sixty three. We thought nobody could touch us. 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.920 At sixty four sixty five, christ say, can we lucky 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.720 we won a game? After that, it all fell apart. 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.320 George Allen left for the Rams, and everything fell apart. 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:36.120 The great eighty five Chicago Bears is probably it's still 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.080 in my mind, the greatest team I've ever seen play football. 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:47.480 Here's the catch with that. Here's the catch. They won 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.879 the World Championship once. They never even got back to 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:54.600 the Super Bowl to try to do anything. So the 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:56.639 point I'm trying to make a keeam in time. You 0:21:56.680 --> 0:22:01.200 knows we all know up here. Boy it's sixteen games. 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:05.280 You better come in ready and everybody be ready. And 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.199 I mean, I'm I'm dead serious when I say this. 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.120 I'll tell you what we need to bring this World 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:22.400 Championship back home. And from what I saw and from 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:26.720 what I saw last year, I saw an offense struggle 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:31.080 come along, struggle come along, but they kept trying to 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.440 get better and trying to improve, and by loy did 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:37.200 they did. They came along, But they had a defense 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:40.359 that set the tone. And they'll have a defense this 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:42.920 year that'll set the tone. And I think the offense 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:47.959 should be ready to go, because again, folks, one time, 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.240 one time with some of the greatest players that ever 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:54.080 played this game and coaches, and we only got there 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:58.760 one time. So it is so important a game for 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:02.159 you guys to realize where the hell you're at, and 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:12.840 you've got to tell it. Go up there and crush them. Hey, Tommy, 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:15.720 there are a lot of talk about the size and 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:19.680 the brute strength, the defensive tackles, defensive lineman. When did 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.680 you figure out that your speed off the ball was 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:26.040 gonna be the key to your success? That is gonna 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:30.280 be your strength is gonna be how quickly that you 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:32.199 can get him in the backfield, how quickly you can 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.719 make an offensive lineman move or get missed the block, 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.199 And then how quickly did you able to cultivate that 0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:42.480 into sacks. I knew that from high school, from jumping 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:46.919 snaps and arm over the center and getting straight taking 0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:50.960 hand offs from the running back quarterback. I just knew 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:56.119 that was my specialty. And I knew that my upside 0:23:56.359 --> 0:24:01.400 was quickness. My downside was if I get hurt, this 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.680 might be it. You know, in the league, if you're 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.480 six eight and you're three hundred seven pounds and just 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.359 like Dan says, Dan was moved inside and out because 0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:12.760 he had a huge frame, he could do a lot 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:14.480 even if he couldn't be in the corner. They could 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.400 use them down their nose. If I lost my quickness 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:20.760 or my first step, nobody wants to pay million dollars 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:24.120 to watch Tommy Harris played. Is not that fast anymore. 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.840 When I knew at that moment that my quickness was 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:31.480 gonna be everything that people, the Bears fans come to 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:34.359 see when they drafted me here the fourteenth pick, I 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.160 knew that they weren't going to see any other undertackle. 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:39.680 I'm not a three technique. I'm one of the only 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.760 undertackles in the game that played in the game. And 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:48.360 that's from the Tampa two. That's the Tampa two system. Oh, 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:51.360 I thought you. I was gonna buy down to you. Chris. 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.600 Now now you because you're kind of a different body 0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:57.600 style than Tommy Harris. He had superior quickness, You had 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.639 strength in the middle to take on two blocks. Plus 0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.720 you always had the ability to earn leverage because of 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:07.080 your height. But you also had quickness and instincts. How 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.760 did you turn that into your craft throughout your college 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:13.040 career then then extended into the Bears. Tom, you've been 0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.080 very nice. I mean, you just say it. I was short. 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:18.400 I mean, you can say it or not. I don't 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:20.760 know how I made it. I don't know. Um. The 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.399 only thing I was able to rely on was my 0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:28.680 speed and strength. I mean I was six maybe something 0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:32.119 like that, you know. Um. So the fact that I 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:35.359 was able to survive, um for for seven years in 0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:39.560 the NFL was very beneficial because I saw people like 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:44.399