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Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to start. Okay, podcast starts. Now. What's up,

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Speaker 1: everybody in the globe. You are listening to Stradio Lab,

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Speaker 1: the podcast about straight culture, but also not at all.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I'm doing a formal line as an intro

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Speaker 1: now because I feel, um like it's helpful because who knows,

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a new person listening to this A boy

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Speaker 1: can dream, um maybe. And so yeah, for the old

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Speaker 1: stradio heads, maybe it looks like I've lost my edge,

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Speaker 1: but I actually have not. I'm just making this episode

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Speaker 1: more accessible to new cars. Yeah. Do you like me

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Speaker 1: starting out really defensively? Yeah, you're so, you're immediately I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess we always start out defense. My thing when

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Speaker 1: we start out any episode, I'm like, my default tone

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Speaker 1: going in is like, okay, calm down, Like that's me

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Speaker 1: to our listeners. Mine is like I start out really

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Speaker 1: carefully for like one second, and then I immediately scold

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Speaker 1: myself for feeling that way and scold the imaginary listener

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Speaker 1: who's clearly judging me. Well, there's this back and forth

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Speaker 1: where we want. I think we think our listeners are

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Speaker 1: like the smartest people in the world, and of course

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Speaker 1: that stems from a certain narcissism, thinking like, well, only

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Speaker 1: so it's really smart, people could possibly understand her incredibly

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Speaker 1: smart thoughts. But then it's a double edged sword because

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Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, our listeners are literally geniuses, so then

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Speaker 1: they can see right through us if we say something

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Speaker 1: that's stupid, which happens more often than you would think. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so to that smart listener out there, I say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, you don't own me. I can do

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Speaker 1: whatever I want. Yeah, and I need to be perfect.

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Speaker 1: And just to counter that, I will do whatever you

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Speaker 1: want if you just kind of then moved me twenty

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Speaker 1: five dollar like I am not above that. I think. Um,

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Speaker 1: we are taking requests, Um, please sign up for the patreon.

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Speaker 1: And that's all I have to say. You know I

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Speaker 1: have to say when you bring up the patreon, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I know that ruins everything, but we have to promote.

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Speaker 1: It tightens my little hole. Yes, you're like Kyle Kyle

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Speaker 1: at this point, the fact that you mentioned the patreon.

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Speaker 1: Before you mentioned the patreon, I have barely any hole. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and now that you mentioned it, my whole is gone.

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Speaker 1: I'm famously you're famously tight. But now you know all bets.

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Speaker 1: I mean, now you're you know, a Kendall. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: it's just smooth now, I mean, it looks incredible, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's fashion. But you know, as as as I

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Speaker 1: was talking, your your whole was doing the thing that

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Speaker 1: thing and he can no longer open it. Your hoole

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Speaker 1: was like, that's exactly what my hole was doing, which

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Speaker 1: is why it's so problematic of you to bring up

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Speaker 1: the Patreon, because after that, you know, my whole is

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Speaker 1: what tells me what to say, and so you bringing

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Speaker 1: the Patreon shuts down my hole, which then shuts down

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Speaker 1: my mouth. Well, your hole is a metaphor her pretty

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Speaker 1: much a lot of things, honestly, and so in addition

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Speaker 1: hole is similar to like how Voldemort's head was in

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Speaker 1: face is the front of shop, but then the whole

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Speaker 1: The shop is closed. The shop is closed hunting. Do

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Speaker 1: you know what's crazy? Is like, okay, the Harry Potter thing,

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Speaker 1: back of the guy's head, right, Am I making that up? No,

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Speaker 1: you're right, Okay, I'm right. There was a factory recently

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Speaker 1: recent horror movie. Do you know what I'm talking about? Malignant? Oh?

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Speaker 1: House of Gucci is art pop? House of Gucci is

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Speaker 1: about it as well. I'm so excited. Um, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: saw this play It's called Dana h And I'm going

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Speaker 1: So it's a serious play and it is like it

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Speaker 1: Literally the audios from the actual interviews and the entire

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Speaker 1: thing is lip SYNCD. Yes. Why so it actually I

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Speaker 1: But imagine like something we associate with literally like drag

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Speaker 1: When I was twelve years old, I auditioned for a play.

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Speaker 1: please continue. Well, she also probably spent the day literally

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Speaker 1: listening to various twelve year old gay boys. Hey, I

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Speaker 1: sound effect. Yeah. We put those in. After rout about that,

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Speaker 1: I was like, what is he doing? I was like,

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Speaker 1: does that mean true crime because of the gun? Yeah?

422
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Speaker 1: I was like, Jared's being so weird. I got too

423
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Speaker 1: excited to make the gun sounds. Can you say it again? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Being really into true crime or being really into social

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Speaker 1: dance social one dance like people that, Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: like a straight thing where straight people like do Like,

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Speaker 1: does no one know what I'm talking about? I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you're talking It's like people that are like

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Speaker 1: into sasa and tango and like I didn't know that's

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Speaker 1: what it was like, like like dan plural the name

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Speaker 1: day social dance. Um, okay, I simply have forgotten the

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Speaker 1: first one again? Okay, um an axe throwing bar or

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Speaker 1: a cat cafe, an axe throwing bar, hard floors or

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Speaker 1: rock hard cock, rock hard cock. Okay. Jennifer Love Hewitt

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Speaker 1: or Hewlett Packard. Jennifer Love Hewitt. Double Jeopardy or double penetration. Wow, George,

436
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Speaker 1: why mine are so sexual? I know why? Double jeopardy? Um? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Thomas Finland or the United States of Tara, United States

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Speaker 1: of Tara. I'm gonna be so Ellen. Oh my god,

439
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Speaker 1: you're being very Ellen. I'm gonna be so Ellen. Oprah's

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Speaker 1: Favorite Things or Annie's Mac and Cheese, Annie's Mac and cheese. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Being a short king or drinking a tall boy being

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Speaker 1: a short king? Love? I think incredible work. I love

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Speaker 1: what What a joy to hear someone pulled back our

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Speaker 1: Where did you find that music? We have to want

445
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: to make it. Make it for us, but don't make

446
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: fun of us for caring about our podcast and asking

447
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: for someone to do something for it. Now that I

448
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: mean that that makes sense. It's I'm like because it's

449
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Speaker 1: it's like it's familiar, but it's somehow also so unfamiliar.

450
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Speaker 1: It's like it's Western, but I've never heard anything like it,

451
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: And every time I hear it, I'm like, where do

452
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: they get this? Well, the music is also and this

453
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: goes for our theme music as well, like we got

454
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Speaker 1: we commissioned the music before we ever recorded an episode

455
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Speaker 1: of the podcast, So it's kind of almost like for

456
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Speaker 1: a different vibe than the podcast ended up being, like

457
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Speaker 1: because originally because it was called Straighter Lab, we were like,

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Speaker 1: we want the theme music to sound like an NPR

459
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Speaker 1: Radio Lab type thing, and then we're gonna like satirize

460
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Speaker 1: Radio Lab and talk about straight culture, which is and

461
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: which is not what the show ended up being. So

462
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Speaker 1: I would stay honestly with the music. Kind of doesn't matter.

463
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Speaker 1: I really like the theme music. Well I think it

464
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Speaker 1: sounds like an Apple music and it sounds like an

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Speaker 1: Apple commercial. Well that's the highest praise really for any

466
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Speaker 1: kind of music. Yeah, yeah, it goes Apple commercials. Commercial

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Speaker 1: Grey's anatomy Apple commercials. Do you remember, like entire artists

468
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Speaker 1: like Feist is who she is because of that Apple

469
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Speaker 1: app Oh my god, and the power they had and

470
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Speaker 1: they I feel like they wielded it mostly for good.

471
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Speaker 1: In that moment, I don't know, are you going to

472
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Speaker 1: be my girl? I mean always be? I mean that

473
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Speaker 1: in a good way. I know, it's I mean, like

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Speaker 1: I will always be like seventeen when I hear that

475
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Speaker 1: song's long Island, Let's go. This is really I know.

476
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Speaker 1: We talked about our intellectual listener judging us, and I

477
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Speaker 1: feel I can't help but feel that us praising jets

478
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Speaker 1: Are you going to be My girl? Is going to

479
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Speaker 1: really turn off our hyper intellectual listener. But look, if

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Speaker 1: you're the Sam and the George that I know and

481
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Speaker 1: the podcast that I know, you two are not afraid

482
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: to split the room. That's right and moment to be cringe. No,

483
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Speaker 1: and I'll say one more thing about Apple, like listen, obviously, Um,

484
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: that era was so kind of corny in its own way. However,

485
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: after Steve Jobs left, you realize like he did have

486
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Speaker 1: a magic touch. The era of like the Colorful Imax

487
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: will always be more iconic than like the Apple TV

488
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Speaker 1: originals that are currently on this point and say that

489
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Speaker 1: Matt commercials. Fuck, I know advertising can be really impactful

490
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Speaker 1: and powerful. M should we get into our topic. I'm

491
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Speaker 1: actually fascinated with this topic because I almost it's it's

492
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Speaker 1: been a while since we've done a kind of high

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Speaker 1: concept topic. Yeah, Jared, Um, I feel like you should

494
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: just maybe introduce it and sort of say what led

495
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Speaker 1: you to it? And we I think we can just

496
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Speaker 1: get into it. You got it, Sammy thing, Jim Carey.

497
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Speaker 1: I know it was kind of you're a you're a master, Jared.

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Speaker 1: You're actually a very talented actor. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: And I think that woman that laughed at you, well,

500
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Speaker 1: she has bad taste. And what else I wonder if, like,

501
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Speaker 1: do you think if either you had kept going and

502
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Speaker 1: spring awakening or that woman had laughed at you, maybe

503
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Speaker 1: you would have had like one of those really dark

504
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Speaker 1: child actor adulthoods. And thank god that woman laughed at you,

505
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: and thank god that's bring awakening, agend it, because now

506
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Speaker 1: you can be a fully self actualized adult. Yes. And

507
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Speaker 1: I I one time, I was like recently, I was

508
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Speaker 1: watching I was just scrolling through like my Explorer page

509
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Speaker 1: and I saw like a clip of these two like

510
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Speaker 1: very a talented, handsome Broadway men doing performing a song

511
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Speaker 1: um and I was watching them like jump around on

512
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Speaker 1: the stage, and it was like, I hope that you do.

513
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Speaker 1: And I kind of I kind don't want to name

514
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Speaker 1: be cause I don't want to be like I don't

515
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Speaker 1: mean it like in a mean way, but I just

516
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Speaker 1: like I just saw it and it was like I

517
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Speaker 1: saw it clearly for the first time because of someone

518
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Speaker 1: who's like who's like been scorned, Like I have this

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Speaker 1: like lens for like when I see it, I'm like

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Speaker 1: this thing that rejected me. But it was like seeing

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Speaker 1: it on my Explorer page somehow, like on my phone

522
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Speaker 1: like all this all these years later. I just so

523
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Speaker 1: clearly was like, oh, like do you want to do that?

524
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Speaker 1: And the answer was just was just a no, and

525
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Speaker 1: it like it really freed me in that moment that

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Speaker 1: is freeing itadra Wow, how do you know that? Do

527
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Speaker 1: you want me to? I can believe it out? Do

528
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Speaker 1: you want me to believe that or keep it in?

529
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I genuinely don't mean it

530
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Speaker 1: like in a mean way. Um, but we can we

531
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Speaker 1: can believe it out anyway. Okay, we have to move Okay,

532
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Speaker 1: but but sorry, very funny. But I knew exactly and

533
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Speaker 1: I'm really glad you did. I'm really glad you did.

534
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: Um that clip released me things. There are comedy things

535
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Speaker 1: that I feel that way about, like when you know

536
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Speaker 1: when you see like someone truly doing even think of

537
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Speaker 1: something like a late night set when I was younger, especially,

538
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Speaker 1: it would seem like the thing, like the goal for

539
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: stand up comedy. It's like, Wow, to have your name

540
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Speaker 1: on the lineup be followed by parentheses Jimmy Kimmel. Nothing

541
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Speaker 1: more glamorous than that. And then you see people do

542
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: late night sets and you're like, honestly, it's less of

543
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: a comment on the thing and more of like the

544
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: culture around it that obsesses about it. Yeah, it's kind

545
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: of like, have you ever attended the Have you ever

546
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Speaker 1: been in the audience for any kind of live taping

547
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Speaker 1: for a talk show or like a morning show. One

548
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Speaker 1: of the darkest experiences. Just although I will say I

549
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Speaker 1: did go to I did go to a taping, I'm

550
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: not going to get into this. I can't get into this. Okay,

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00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: we actually can't because this is Ellen. We can't mention

552
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: any names of celebrities, and we can't we can't say

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00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: anything negative about the entertainment industry. Were believing everything because

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Speaker 1: everyone in the entertainment Ellen, Actually I don't. My hands

555
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Speaker 1: are sweating. No, and that's not just because of the

556
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Speaker 1: booster shot. Yeah, everyone we've ever worked with has been incredible,

557
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Speaker 1: every any anyone who has success. Specifically it is such

558
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Speaker 1: an angel and sweetie and like so good, so I

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Speaker 1: just want to leave it. There's an angel and sweetie,

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00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: which leads us to our topic today, that's right, thank you,

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Speaker 1: which is, um, what was it? Being easy going? Is

562
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Speaker 1: the top being easy going? There? It is so being

563
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: easy going? Okay. So basically it is just a really

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00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: uh uh sort of like vicious takedown of my two

565
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: closest straight friends who are really easy going and I

566
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: wish they weren't. A Basically, I feel like a big

567
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: part of like the straight experience is like most things

568
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: are catered for you. Most things are working out for you.

569
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: Like you, you don't have this pit in your stomach

570
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Speaker 1: from like the age of seven on that something is

571
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: deeply wrong. And unless you micromanage every element of your

572
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: day and public perception you will you will be sent

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Speaker 1: on a on a boat to an island far away.

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Speaker 1: Um uh. And as a result, I am not very

575
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Speaker 1: easy going, and I think in those moments I do

576
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: feel very close to my gayness uh and later in

577
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: life have really come to love and embrace and I

578
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: find that like bringing my lack of being easy going

579
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Speaker 1: like to the two front and center like like helps

580
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: me and like releases me of things, and as a

581
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: viewer of you personally, I feel I am surprised to

582
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: find out that you're not easy going because I feel

583
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: like I've seen you you're like very kind, always bless you. No,

584
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Speaker 1: I'm actually everything you just said and I think you're

585
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: you're really painting in broad strokes about queer community, and

586
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: I actually I'm like, we really should not have done this,

587
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: Like this is not this is not good representation. But

588
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: I feel I'm I'm surprised, And I also feel like

589
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: you're You're a man that's always on the go. You're

590
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: like you're at every show, You're somehow always is both

591
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: in l A and New York. And you're like, I

592
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: don't I don't know how you do it. Sometimes when

593
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: you post a poster of your upcoming shows, I'm like,

594
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: he has to have made some of these up. Um,

595
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta, I don't know, I don't know.

596
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: I gotta like I need to throw my phone into

597
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: the ocean. I think that is the best, but but

598
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: I I so relate to what you're saying where you

599
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: initially you're like you think this kind of I don't

600
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: want to use the word anxiety because that means something

601
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: very specific. But like you think, this kind of constant

602
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: overthinking and UM, slight discomfort in every area of your

603
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: life is like a fatal flaw. And then you learn

604
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, actually, so much of what I

605
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: have to offer is because I am like forced to

606
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: feel slightly uncomfortable in certain environments and questioned things at

607
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: its best, UM, and then you're like, you know, yes,

608
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: it sounds wonderful to be really easy going, but that

609
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: it's like, imagine going through life without any kind of

610
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: tension sounds pretty great. I I have an anecdote about UM.

611
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: This one time I was sitting in the park and

612
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Speaker 1: I was like, these straight guys sat sort of near

613
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Speaker 1: me and we're having a conversation, and it was like

614
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: truly the chilliest thing I'd ever heard in my entire life.

615
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: Like they were like, oh yeah, man, I just like

616
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: went upstate and like yeah, we found the swimming hole

617
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: and it was like so nice and like oh yeah,

618
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Speaker 1: oh you know you should try this, and like just

619
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Speaker 1: everything was like the truly most carefree thing I had

620
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Speaker 1: ever heard in my entire life. There was no like yeah,

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00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: we like we went to swimming hole. And like we

622
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: could get stuck in traffic or like like it was

623
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: just like good vibes, only uh in the fullest extent.

624
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, that is actually something straight,

625
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: Like there is something so happy, yes, and what are you?

626
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: It can like lead into toxic territory, yeah, where like

627
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: when someone stands out in that way, it's like it's

628
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: like toxic positivity, you know, it's like, well okay, well

629
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Speaker 1: well there's an array of experiences that can be happening

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Speaker 1: here right now, like something like this, and this is,

631
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Speaker 1: and this is I'm not sure if this is a

632
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: celebration of straight culture or or an absolute takedown, but

633
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: like the idea of like going to a restaurant, going

634
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: to like a restaurant or a bar and being like

635
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: can I have a Can I have a Madelo? And

636
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: then the waiters like, we don't have adela, we have Corona,

637
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: and then being like that's fine, I'll take Corona, and

638
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: then having corona, I'm like that seems so feig into me.

639
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: I would I would say, oh, oh that's okay, no,

640
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: thank you, and I would not have a beer. And

641
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: I would just not have beer. I wouldn't make anyone

642
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: to feel bad about it because I also like, that's

643
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: the worst kind of person. Um. But I would simply

644
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: just not have beer. You wouldn't, you wouldn't look for

645
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: a different kind of beer to have. Okay, and now

646
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: you guys are kind of being you guys brought me here,

647
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: and now you're embarrassing my ass. No, I want to

648
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: apologize on behalf of sam. Um. He's actually so toxically

649
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: easy going that he judges people for having any kind

650
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: of preference. It tastes like weed. It tastes like weed water.

651
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: It is like bog water if you're allowed to have

652
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: your preferences. But I'm sure there were other beers on

653
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: the menu. Sometimes there are in Sam Sometimes they only

654
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: have Topa Chico. So then now you've revealed to the

655
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: whole table that you want sparkling water, but you will

656
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: not have this specific sparkling water, like it's that important

657
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: to you. Like it's just it's so intimate. That's like

658
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: if you only have one option, you're really putting people

659
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: at the edge of a cliff because it's like, yeah, no,

660
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: But I want to dig deeper into this because it's like, Okay,

661
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure this is insane where I was like a

662
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: little on board. I was pushing this conversation forward and

663
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm like no, no, no no, no, no, this is absolutely bonkers. Well,

664
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: so okay, I will say this. If you are always

665
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: happy with whatever, then you're not going to move the

666
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: world forward. We can't have social progress if everyone accepts

667
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: a corona when they actually want a madelo. But you

668
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: also have to pick your battles. But I think, like

669
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: he said, like he's not going to argue, there's no battle,

670
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: there is no battle, swords are down, and then when

671
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: because sometimes it's like, um, the opposite of easy going

672
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: can be one of two things. Opposite of easy going

673
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: can be either like actually very combative, or it can

674
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: be the opposite, which is like shutting down, like basically

675
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: going in your head. So when you say nos to

676
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: the corona, do you then like, are you is your

677
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: mood changed? Like I think this is like are you

678
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: like happy, You're like I just said no to it

679
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: and that's fine, or are you like a little like well,

680
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: they didn't have my they didn't have my thing, Like,

681
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: the mood doesn't change. The mood doesn't change. Okay, That's

682
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: the only fear in that moment is that I have

683
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: now been revealed in some way. I have now because

684
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: the guy, because of course the bartender. It's not used

685
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: to Oh my god, can you guys hear when my

686
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: phone goes off, that's the bartender. Okay, he's calling to

687
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: say that his mood did change. Do not listen? Yeah,

688
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: the bartender is gone. We actually have a call from

689
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: the from a listener. Um, I see what you're saying,

690
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: because not only are you now not drinking beer, but

691
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: you also have exposed the darkest part of yourself for

692
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: this bartender. Because this bartender is like, never in my

693
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: life have I offered someone an alternative beer and that

694
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: person that said, no, I won't have any beer. Yeah,

695
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: it feels it feels self punishing in a way. That's

696
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: my whole life, baby, Um George, struggle to relate considering

697
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: our goal is always defined the deeper dry. Um, George,

698
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: are you do you consider yourself easy going? No? Do

699
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: you consider yourself easy going? I don't know. I think

700
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: I I think I'm very aware. I try to be

701
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: very aware of like other people and like, But I

702
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: I do think I make an active effort to like

703
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: let a lot of stuff go like very quickly, like

704
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: to not let stuff like bother me. But maybe I

705
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: think an actual easy going person would not even have

706
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: to get that far. Like I see what I'm saying. Yeah,

707
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: you're almost like it's like you're fighting against your instinct

708
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: to not be easy going, and at every at any

709
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: given time, you're like, I'm easy going, imasy going, imusy going. Yeah,

710
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: I understand that. I think I do that to some extent. You.

711
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: I want to be coming across well at any given point.

712
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: I think that's where my uh kind of neuroticism or

713
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: lack of easy goingness comes from. Yeah, much less so

714
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: than the beer thing, Like I'm more likely to take

715
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: to take the corona. And then where the way I'm

716
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: not easy going is like I'll say something I think

717
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: it sounds stupid, and then I'll spend like an hour

718
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: explaining myself and then people are like, no one wants

719
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: to hear this. Yeah, I think the best anyone can

720
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: do is seem easy going. Yeah that's yeah, well it's

721
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: all the performance. Yeah yeah, many have said that. Um yeah,

722
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: I believe someone once said all the world's stage and

723
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: the rest and the rest is drag. Yes, one, I

724
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: I love them instead of sort of like the trolley problem.

725
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: I love that we've created the corona problem. It's like,

726
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: what's the corona problem? Either you accept the corona or

727
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: you have nothing at all. Like it's like I feel

728
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: cursed by like my preferences where I'm like, I will

729
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: have it. Like when people are like, oh I can't

730
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: tell the difference between tastes of things, I'm like, damn,

731
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: that seems so relaxing, because I feel like that's kind

732
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: of me. I'm very like food is one of those

733
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: things specifically where I'm like, I've chosen to be easy

734
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: going because when I was a kid, I was really picky,

735
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: and it like kind of made life more difficult. And

736
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: so when I was like, oh, I just don't what

737
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: if I just didn't care about what I'm eating at

738
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: any given time? That Okay. I once, and I'm maybe misremembering,

739
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: but I once witnessed an interaction between you and Misha

740
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: where the vibe was like Misha was like what kind

741
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: of yes, Misha Barton and his girlfriend of extra swee,

742
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: and you were like I don't care, and I was

743
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: like you have to pick one, Like you're actually making

744
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: my life harder by being so easy going. Does that

745
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: sound familiar. This does sound a little familiar, and I

746
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if this if I witnesses or

747
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: if you said something, or if Misha said something, but

748
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: like I feel like, does that sound like a dynamic

749
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: that is familiar with you and Misha? Yeah, And especially

750
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: because Misha cares deeply about food like it is his

751
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: it is his thing, And so I like very much

752
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: try to just like take beyond backseat because I'm like

753
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 1: because also if I am like I want this, he'll

754
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: like take that very seriously. He like likes to please

755
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: in that way. And so like, I kind of don't

756
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: say my food wants because they're not that important to me,

757
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 1: and if I do, he'll be like, well, I didn't

758
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: get the thing I wanted because I was trying to

759
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: cater to Sam. And then it was like, so I've

760
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: been I've learned to be like, I don't care whatever

761
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: favorite food, UM, my favorite food. I'm gonna go ahead

762
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: and say a good old fashioned burrito is I think

763
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: it is my favorite. It's like I love I love

764
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: the practicality. I love um, you're full, it's got a

765
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: little bit of everything. It's it's it's my it's spicy,

766
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: I love spicy. Do you find that you can become

767
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: particular about your burrito? It's possible, I do. That's a

768
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: great This is because I actually I'm going to trap

769
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: your ass on. This has got your journalism. Yeah, and

770
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: it started with what's your favorite food? Yeah, three minutes

771
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: from now you're in tears here. I think, God, you're

772
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: here to like put us in our place, because I

773
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: feel like we this topic really with both of our heads.

774
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: I feel like I have not made any sense this

775
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: entire episode, Like I don't know what I'm trying to say.

776
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: Uh no, Jared, You're right, You're right. I do care

777
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: about which how the rito has done. No, But also

778
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: I really care though too, and I feel like it

779
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: makes me really come alive, like i've I've I've really

780
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: have done a full one eighty about my preferences where

781
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: it's like, yes, it's a curse, but also like it

782
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: can be a blessing, and like I love to find

783
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: out what other people's are too, Like I love to

784
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: kind of encourage others to to share what makes them

785
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: crotchety to kind of relieve me of my own. And

786
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: also I just love food and burritos are delicious and

787
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: there are bad burritos out there. There are a lot

788
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: of bad burritos out there. I can't even like fully

789
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: get into this, but like when I moved from the

790
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: Bay Area to the East Coast, I the burritos are

791
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: so bad here. Like one time I almost cried when

792
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: I truly I was like, I did not know this

793
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: was an option because I didn't really have burritos growing up,

794
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: Like I didn't have a lot of Mexican cuisine. And

795
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: then when I lived in California, the brio, you know,

796
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: the Mexican food is so good that I just thought,

797
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: that's like what Mexican food was like America, and then

798
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 1: you kind of I mean, and real fans will remember

799
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: I also lived in Boston for two years and try

800
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: to have maximum fud to Boston. I mean, you might

801
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: as well to kill yourself. Um, So this is like,

802
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I feel like what you're saying, Jared is

803
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: interesting because I'm almost now like thinking everyone's personality is

804
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: defined by how much they care about certain things, and

805
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: then in fact, your assessment of someone else's personality is

806
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: defined by how much what they care about matches what

807
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: you care about. So I guess my point is you

808
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: can never really know anyone. And that's been Stradio lab.

809
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, I yeah, I do feel like this topic um.

810
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: You know, when it started, it was like, yes, this

811
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: will be carefree, this will be fun to sort of

812
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: dive into each of our psyches um. And I do

813
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: feel like it has actually destroyed us. I mean I

814
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: feel like we've lost don't know who I am like

815
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: and in fact, I think we're in kind of a

816
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: psychoanalysis zone where like, if we were to stop this

817
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 1: episode right now, I might I might be ruined forever.

818
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: Someone needs to leave me back. I can get us

819
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: out here, I can get it back. Yeah. And I

820
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: think it goes back to those men in the park

821
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: who were really relaxed and sharing their experience of this

822
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: like this like this trip that like went really well.

823
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: I'll say I went on like a I went on

824
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 1: like a like a trip Airbnb situation with two friends

825
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: of mine to two white friends of mine. In fact,

826
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: um and it was just disaster from start to finish.

827
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: Arguing and the truly arguing in the car about which

828
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: chromatic A song to play that like got truly tenuous.

829
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: They just played the whole album UM, which when you're

830
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: saying if you guys were three straight guys, that would

831
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: not have happened. I don't know. Maybe I'm find three

832
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: straight guys who argue about which chromatic a song to play. Yeah,

833
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: it would actually be really easy. They would all be

834
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: like signed from above, yeah always um okay, okay. I

835
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: don't know if this will help, But an addition to

836
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: the straight guys in the park story is I even

837
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: wonder if part of it is straight people feel very

838
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: comfortable expressing like joy without caveats, Like, because I think Gabe,

839
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: like I I personally know that sometimes I feel if

840
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: something goes great, I feel like I always be like, yeah,

841
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: it was really fun. I mean this part was annoying

842
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: just to like, because I'm not a psychopath, I need

843
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: to like tell you that. Of course there were bad elements,

844
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: but like, but it was still really fun. And so

845
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: it's like, but a straight person doesn't feel that guilt

846
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: about having a good time and also about what you're

847
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: have what is giving you a good time? When I

848
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: was a kid, I like subverted. I like, what's not subverted?

849
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: What's the word where you put something in something else

850
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: not subsidized? We can contextualized re contextualized. No, it sounds

851
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: like maybe it is subverted. Sub basically, like all of

852
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: my gay ship I put it into Pokemon. Oh, like,

853
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: what's that word? Let's ask one of your intelligences, right,

854
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: I yelling at us. Substituted, subjugate, No, not subjugate, sub channeled, Yeah, channeled.

855
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: It's not exactly what you're looking for, but okay, yeah. Um.

856
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: I channeled all of my gay shame into Pokemon. And

857
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: when I was, um, like a twelve year old child,

858
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was so embarrassing and lame that I

859
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: liked Pokemon. I thought I was the oldest loser nerd

860
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: who liked Pokemon. I felt incredibly old at twelve years old. Um,

861
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: and I just like told no one about it, and

862
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: like I I like, it was like a secret. It

863
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: was my favorite fucking thing and it was like an

864
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: absolute secret. And then now to see like how global

865
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: and still like omnipresent. How's that for a word? UM

866
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: say it? Um? It is? It's like it's it's like

867
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: laughable that I ever thought that I was so uniquely

868
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: weird and wrong to like this thing that became a

869
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: global phenomenon that is still around to this day. Um.

870
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: And so like having like having shame about expressing what

871
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: is making you feel joyful is also a part of

872
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: like why you Yeah, yeah, that's fascinating that you um

873
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,479
Speaker 1: that that like, rather than feeling shame for being gay,

874
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: you chose something less painful. Yes, I feel like I

875
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: was that similar when I was a kid. I was

876
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 1: also into like stuff like that, Like I was into Yugo,

877
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: like too old, like because but it was like but

878
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: I loved it. But it was like truly, no one

879
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: at school can know this, and you were not too old,

880
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: like you were literally the demographic. Yeah, I guess all

881
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: my examples are like objectively gay. It was like I

882
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: watched Lisie McGuire. Um. I also think the thing with

883
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: what you're saying, what you're both saying of like opening

884
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: with the negative rather than the positive and being less

885
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: able to express joy comes also from the fact that

886
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: I think we think negative things are more interesting than

887
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: positive things, like right, Yeah, It's like when when I'm

888
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: when I'm attempting to be interesting, it is more I'm

889
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: more likely to try to critique something that to try

890
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: to like praise something. Yeah, well, and you know, not

891
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: to always be doing lord propaganda, But I I think

892
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: solar Power bothered people because it was like, what if

893
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: I was happy, You're doing Lord propaganda again? What did

894
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: we talk about? She said, what if I was happy

895
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: a little bit? And then everyone was like, fuck you yourself,

896
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: be sad again. I like it when you're bad. Yeah,

897
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess that same could be said of

898
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's Lover. Sure. Sure, I guess. The other thing

899
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: those albums Kevin common is that they're less good than

900
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: than the ones that are compared to Uh yeah, interesting,

901
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, I know, I think there's some something to that.

902
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, so where are you in your easy going journey? No, Jared,

903
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: where am i? I am? I think I'm doubling down

904
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: on whatever. The opposite of being easy going is um

905
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: in a way that sort of um is relatable. Like

906
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: if I can't be do you know any Like, if

907
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: I can't actually be agreeable with everyone, I can at

908
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: least be relatable. So I will share the things that

909
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: I either really like or really don't like and why

910
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: in a way that activates others to share their own things. Oh,

911
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: I see, So you're using your own preferences to welcome

912
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: people in and say it's okay, to talk about things

913
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: we don't like and things we do. Like, yeah, you're

914
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: actually inviting people to not be easy going if they

915
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: exactly exactly exactly. This is um At the venue the

916
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: Pit in n Why City, they used to have a

917
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: thing that was I have found really embarrassing on the

918
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: wall that was like the clown's prayer, and it was like,

919
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: I will be a silly billy, I will, and it

920
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: was like something really I don't remember what it said,

921
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: but it was like basically like a mantra of like

922
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: what you would do if you were funny or something.

923
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: And Jared, I do feel like what you just said

924
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: is sort of the stand ups prayer, Like you're like

925
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: just describing what like comedy is. I'm like, I will

926
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: talk about stuff that bothers me, and I will be

927
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 1: open about what I don't like and in that way

928
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: and hope people relate people. Do you think we got

929
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: to the bottom of being easy going? I don't. I

930
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: don't know that anyone could in thirty minutes over Zoom,

931
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: but we certainly tried. I think we asked more questions

932
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: than we answered. Okay, but I also think that's a

933
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah. Yeah, In fact, people should be more

934
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: comfortable with unanswered questions. In my opinion, yeah, I think

935
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: this episode is an art pop. I think this episode

936
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: is it's going to be you are not being easy

937
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: going about this episode? WHOA, Okay, now it's okay, what

938
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: do you want? What? I actually, I do think I

939
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: would also make it a little bit tired today, but

940
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: like I really like I'm racking my brain, like this

941
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: has actually made me confront my own lack of easy going. Yeah,

942
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: I think me too. I think maybe in my head

943
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: I did think I was easy going and now I'm like, no,

944
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely not. It's all a sham. And I'm also

945
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm nervous about or not nervous. But I'm like,

946
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: I hate it when I both Sam and I we

947
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: love and a theory, like an all encompassing theory, and

948
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: it stresses me out that it's like we haven't we

949
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: don't have a worry about easy goingness yet, you know,

950
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: like like a thesis. Yeah, I think I think that

951
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: it's straight to be easy going because you didn't have

952
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: that seed when you're when you're like no, you're right

953
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: and yes, And I think ultimately that is what it

954
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: comes down to. I'm also wondering if you're straight and

955
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: you're listening to this going um, feel free to make

956
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: your voice heard. Um. I guess normally, I think it's

957
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: funny and part of the bit a little bit that

958
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: it's like a lot of queer people mostly talking about

959
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: things they think are straight, and that's clearly part of

960
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: the joke. But this one, I'm like, I think some

961
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,959
Speaker 1: really uneasy streight people are going to be really hurt

962
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: and they are going to want to sort of clap

963
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: back at um us. I really think this episode is

964
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: a very important one, and in fact, I think the

965
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: idea of easy goingness is something that I'm really going

966
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: to think about a lot moving forward. That's all I

967
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: have to say. If I have made either one of

968
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: you worse today, I've done my job. No, no, just

969
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: more aware of our flaws. Yeah, it's it's um, it's suspiria,

970
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: it is Sexuality is a spectrum. Sometimes I'm very straight,

971
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm only a little straight, and that's the end

972
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: of my spectrum. So I really encourage a straight passing voice. YEA,

973
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: thank you so much. But if you are, I just

974
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: want to I just want to like just shout out

975
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: to my straight people out there, I see you, I

976
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: love you, I hear you. If you are straight and

977
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: you are not being easy going, you're being queer in

978
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: this moment, and that'll change and you'll find your you know,

979
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: you'll find your way back and and you know, every

980
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: every day is a new and different day. If you're

981
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: a straight person who doesn't feel like fully comfortable, you're

982
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: part of the LGBTQ community. If you're a straight person

983
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: who gets uneasy the in certain situations at all, you

984
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: can say, faggott, Yeah, ever experienced conflict, whether it be

985
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: interpersonal or otherwise, I'll see you at the parade. Um, wow,

986
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: I think we should do our final segment. Do too?

987
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: And you know what the realty is. I have no

988
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: ially forgot about this. I have one in mind actually,

989
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, Jared, our final segment it's called shout outs,

990
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: and and you know, we give a shout out to

991
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: anything that we enjoy, sort of in the style of

992
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: uh the two thousand one t r L. You're in

993
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: Time Square shouting out to your squad back home. So, um,

994
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: just anything you like. And I actually do have one

995
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: to kick us off. Ready, what's up? Idiots and losers?

996
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: And freaks and bozos out there. I just want to

997
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: give a huge shout out to the one, the only

998
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: York I have not ever been a York gay, but

999
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: I do live in Bushwick and I do have a

1000
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: mullet now, and a lot of people are sort of

1001
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: assuming you must be a York gay. But and I

1002
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: conceptually I would like to be a York gay, and

1003
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: so I've been doing my research. I've been listening to

1004
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: New York and I have been enjoying. I think it's

1005
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: actually great for as we go from fall to winter.

1006
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: It's um really setting a nice tone and I am

1007
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: excited to educate myself on this incredible, amazing artist. Life

1008
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: never ends, and you can always become a York gay

1009
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: when you feel it's your time. I love you, b York. Whoo.

1010
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: That's so exciting. Yeah, it's actually been very fun. I've

1011
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: been annoyed at most music recently and I was really

1012
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: needing a change. And I actually see parallels between this

1013
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: shout out and my Tilda Swinton shout out, because they're

1014
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: both like women that are almost like now cliche to

1015
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: be like an you know, kind of an altar gay

1016
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: who response to either of them m hm. But but

1017
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: they are both the real deal, the real deal, baby,

1018
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: They're good for a reason. And without further ado, I

1019
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: guess I should think of something to say, I have

1020
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: one if you need to breaking okay, perfect? Wow? Is

1021
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: it crazy to have a guest? Go second? No, I

1022
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: love it for its just just start huh. Yeah, Hey, guys,

1023
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: what's up? I want to give a shout out to Madelo.

1024
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: You are so delicious to me. You don't taste like

1025
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: bond water like some other beers. There is a reason

1026
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: that they didn't call COVID the medelo virus, because you

1027
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: are delicious. You have gold foil on the top. What

1028
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: am I damn king over here? This is like ferero rochet,

1029
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: This is like a diver. This is luxury. You are

1030
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: giving me luxury, and you are saying, you know what,

1031
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 1: You're not just in a in a regular bar. You're

1032
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: exactly in the right place where you're supposed to be

1033
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: on this planet. And you are so delicious. And I

1034
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: appreciate all that you've given me and all the times

1035
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: that I have had with an ice cold Madelo in

1036
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: my hand. Shout out, Madelo, whoa, And that's what I

1037
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: actually have one, and this will be my my second

1038
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: food related shout out in a row. Okay, ready, what's up?

1039
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: Hold on? Oh my god, that's the best one. I

1040
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: feel like, never am I less easy going than when

1041
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: I try to do shout outs. I'll say that, um,

1042
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: what's up my little friends and girlies and boilies. I'm

1043
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: going to give a quick shout out to. Okay, I

1044
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: want to give a quick shout out to as a

1045
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: dessert bringing out citr us and pieces of dark chocolate.

1046
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: This is something that I recently experienced when I went

1047
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: over to my friend Allison's house. We had a very

1048
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: gorgeous meal, and then very effortlessly, she brought out a

1049
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: plate of like sliced grapefruit and orange and things like that,

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Speaker 1: and then another plate of like two different kinds of

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01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: nice dark chocolate and was like here, like we can

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01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: have this after our meal. At first, I was like, okay, like,

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01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: this isn't a flowerless chocolate cake, this isn't a flond.

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01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: This is more of a of a deconstructive dessert vibe.

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01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: Then I started having it and I was like, this

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01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: best is what I've ever had. It's so easy. Anyone

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01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: can do it. You just have to take a little

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01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: stop at the farmer's market and another little stopic or

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01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,959
Speaker 1: little supermarket. And let me tell you something. You aren't

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01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: ready for a restaurant quality dessert. And anyone can do this.

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01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: This is Georgia's hot tip of the day. Go out

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01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: there and get some citrus and some dark chocolate and

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Speaker 1: serve it to your guests as dessert. And that's all

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Speaker 1: I have to say about that. Wo. I love that.

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01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: Very British. Yeah, I don't know why America has an

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01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: embraced chocolate orange. It's like kind of gross to us,

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01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: and I used to think it was gross, but it's incredible. Yeah,

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01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: And I think, and I'm like, I don't even mind

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01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: the combination of flavors of chocolate orange. It was more

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01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: like to put out just like those two plates with

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01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: those two things is so genius because you actually they

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01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: both taste better on their own than if it was

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01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: just like a chocolate orange whatever. Yeah. Wow, Yeah, you're

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01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: you're like dinner party, um sort of. I don't know

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01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: what it is, expertise. I feel like you're doing a

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01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: lot of like dinner party experiences that I and you're

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01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: learning a lot yet too, to be exact, but I

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01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: just I went, I've been like going over to people's

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: for dinners. Yes, I have never had a deconstructed dessert

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01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: that didn't feel so complicated and like not worth the effort.

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01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: So to hear that, to hear this sort of deconstructed

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01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: dessert and it's it was just so simple, it really is.

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01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: It's delicious and like it's also a crowd pleaser. It's

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01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: not like putting out like mixed nuts. Well, I love

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01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: a little I love little bites, like I think I

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01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: hate a cake because they like, I don't know, I

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01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: have a whole piece of this thing, and it's like

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01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: if you're like full from a large meal. It's actually

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01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: to put something like that where someone doesn't have to

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01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: have like a whole slice of something. They can literally

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01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: have like a piece of orange and a piece of chocolate.

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Speaker 1: Is I mean I do? It's so fun. Wow, congrats

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01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: to the whole team. Thank you, um well, Jared, I

1094
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: feel like this has been a smash. This is one

1095
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: of the people will be Jared, Jared, just a little

1096
01:06:54,400 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: what we got on. I can't believe you did that

1097
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: so iconic. That was like this episode has already been

1098
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: so insane and then you're like, in here's a little

1099
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: cherry on top. That is the most art pop thing

1100
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: artist artist, wow, deep cut Jesus Christ was a woman

1101
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: that pete that that that pete on someone on stage? No,

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01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: what was this? This is a band called I think

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01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: Brass Against. Let me see brass Yeah, okay, so it's

1104
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: this band called Brass Against and they just did this

1105
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: festival called Rockville and basically this woman, the lead singer,

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01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: brought up a guy who consented to it and had

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01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: him lie down and then she peered on his face.

1108
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: Whoa which is like like metal and very like punk

1109
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: rock whatever, But then the twist. Then the next morning

1110
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: they tweeted an apology and they were like, we're sorry

1111
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: Sophia got carried away, which is like the worst thing

1112
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: you can do. It's like you have to own it

1113
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: if we're gonna be on someone. I'm saying, why do

1114
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: you think they got embarrassed? I just think it was

1115
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: like she wanted to be metal and the rest of

1116
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: the band was like not there yet. Oh sure sure,

1117
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: but now the videos are all over online and sadly

1118
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: I I did watch it because it came up on

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01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: my feet and I didn't know what I was watching.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds kind of funny. I would check

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01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: that out. She also is it's a really good Um,

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01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: it's a really strong stream of Pete like she does

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01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 1: a good wow wow. Um. Well, speaking a pee, I

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01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: actually need to pe right now, so maybe we call it. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I shouldn't have brought this pee thing up.

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01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: And now you're like, all right, George, that's not bad

1127
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: of you. No, no, it's the birth. It's still not

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01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: didn't live up to the burp. Okay, fine, you're right,

1129
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,839
Speaker 1: you're right. I guess burping to Sam is more disgusting

1130
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: than peeing on someone's face. Oh you're described. If you

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01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: got up right now and pete on your microphone. What

1132
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: if I got up and then appeared on Jared's screen

1133
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: like just somehow I was in his apartment and then

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01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: Pete on him, that would be that would be a

1135
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: topic for the pat We'll all be on each other. Um,

1136
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 1: could be huge, could be huge. And also, just to clarify,

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Speaker 1: I don't I'm not kink shaving anyone. I was just

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01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: not prepared for the video. Okay, Um, well, thanks Jared

1139
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: for being on this podcast. Um, I think we really

1140
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: got to the bottom of what is Thank you so much.

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01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: This has been so fun, a delight. Um okay bye