WEBVTT - Draft Show: Round 1 Review; Day 2 Preview 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:11.000 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:15.080 on there war room for incenter news and draft analysis 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:18.520 from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:24.000 Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now your 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:29.200 hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us well, Well, 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.080 welcome to a special edition of the Draft Show presented 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:36.280 by Miller Light. Brian brought us here along with David Hellman. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:38.120 I'm gonna need a Miller Light by the end of 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.159 this draft. I'll tell you what. We're all gonna need 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:41.800 a Miller Light with all the news. It's kind of 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.479 breaking right now. Dame Brugler will be joining us here shortly. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.519 He has an assignment that he is working on, but 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:52.000 he will come into the building and join the fray. 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.720 We will talk about things. We're gonna reset this draft 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.040 for you, talk about the guys who are on the board, 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:03.080 still available, plenty of quality names of guys. I did 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.200 a little research this morning, calling around the league and 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.119 talking about some particular guys and you know, maybe why 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.760 or why not on some certain players. But now that 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:18.399 I have David Hellman in here, David Jason Witten. Yeah, 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.920 and I know about I know the show before us 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.080 talking Cowboys Break. I know that they all got together. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:25.759 We're talking a little bit about Witten. The news came 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.000 down from Chris Mortenson at ESPN that Jason Witten is 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:33.720 retiring and going into Monday Night football, and I've listening 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.280 to Stephen Jones talk about it. For the record, I 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.560 feel like it's worth pointing out that, you know, Jason 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.600 is expected to have a meeting with Jerry Jones today 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.400 or had one. Right, everything I've read is that there's 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:51.320 a caveat that he could change his mind. But okay, 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.520 it certainly seems like all arrows are pointing toward him 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.360 being done playing for the Cowboy. I'll tack Chris Mortenson 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.160 on this one. Yeah, because Chris Mortenson of esp and 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:04.040 generally when he throws something out right, it's usually coming 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.480 from your right, the top of the food chain. So yeah, 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.320 and the fact that he works for ESPN and ESPN 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.760 has money Night football, Yeah, I think they kind of 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.040 know what they're talking about. But you're fear fair. You're 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.079 doing your journalistic duty by pointing out as I'm just 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.080 driving the train off the track. But I mean, like 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.160 I said, you always want to leave, especially when it 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.720 comes to retirement. You want to leave some legal room. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.720 Think about Brett Farve. Yeah, well yeah that was a yo, yo. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.880 But it like I said, I feel pretty confident that 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.400 this is gonna stick. Yeah, because I do too. I'm 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.480 with you on this. Yeah. Okay. With that being said, David, 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.639 a confidence factor that you have in the tight ends, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.800 the current roster of tight ends for the Dallas Cowboys. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.240 How do you feel about that group? And can I 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.400 convince you to potentially take a tight end in this draft? 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.480 I this isn't enough time for me to process everything 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.760 because and I see your tweets. I've gotten at least 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:59.040 six tweets saying I jinx the Cowboys because I've been 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.960 the one ending on the table demanding that they not 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.680 waste a draft pick on a tight end because Jason 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.760 Witch kept trying to tell you take Ian Thomas third 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.720 eighty one. I'm in, I'm in now, I'm in now. Um. 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.320 I mean like, I'm proud of you for having the 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.160 uh the under See, you're learning this a scout. You 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.119 gotta learn. Hey, when you's when you're wrong, you're wrong. 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.080 You move on. Wait, well, and I I would argue 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.320 that I was not wrong, not that high. I thought 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.440 Jason Witten was gonna be here in twenty six, twenty eighteen, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:27.800 and I didn't make a lot of sense for me. 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.040 But if he's not here, uh, it's hard to call 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.560 one of the best tight ends of all time a 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.680 progress stopper. But yeah, that's what I saw him as 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.960 for a second or third round pick at tight end. 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.360 But he's not there anymore. Um, That's that's the big question, 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.080 is Okay? The obvious, the obvious talking point is that 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.440 tight end all of a sudden shoots to the top 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:52.720 of your needs list do more than free safety. Do 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.680 you see it that way? I don't, Okay, I don't 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.880 because you're talking to a guy in or a mock draft. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.920 It realized again this is still with Witten here. I 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:07.560 gave the Cowboys in the sixth round Will Disley from Washington, right. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.720 I gave them a legitimate blocking tight end, is what 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.160 I did. And Stephen Jones was just on one oh 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.839 five three talking about you know, plans and how the 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.279 college game has changed and you don't have inline blockers 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.640 much anymore. And but there's some quality tight ends in 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.160 this draft. I mean, there's some there are some quality 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.839 times where you talk about guys that legitimately can get 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.520 down the field. You know, when you talk about Dallas, Goddard, 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.760 you talk about just Sicky, you talk about Andrews. We 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.840 mentioned Ian Thomas was a guy. What's your grade on 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.000 Mark Andrews? I got Mark Andrews in the second round. Goddard, 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:42.720 I got him in the second round. Here are my 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.239 tight ends Goddard, j Sicky, Andrews all second round guys. Okay, 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.640 and I guess Here's here's where my brain is going 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.560 as I and I think, and I know that, I 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.159 know that when Dane pops in here, if we're constinuing, 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.040 you talked about tight ends, God, it's going to be 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.880 his first tight ends still on the board. Absolutely. Yeah, 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.280 Here's where my brain is going as I digest this. 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.640 If tight end and this is me talking about the Cowboys, 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.120 not me, Yeah, if tight end was such a dire situation, 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.360 you're worried about how they're gonna use this guy, aren't you? Well? 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.320 I am, obviously I am. Because they don't want to 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.839 Why tight end? They don't, they don't play that game. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.080 They don't They want a guy that can block Yeah, 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.599 but if tight end was such a dire situation that 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.760 you were going to draw draft one in the second round, 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.920 like we gotta have Mike Secki, then Jason Witten wouldn't 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.440 stop you from doing that, you know what I mean, 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.600 You're like, we gotta get this guy anyway, guy, did 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.800 they bring any tight ends in? And if they really 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.800 thought they needed one of the best tight ends in 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.000 this draft, they would have brought some in even with 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.240 Witten on the roster, because you never let a guy 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.000 on your roster stop you from preparing for the future, right, Yeah, 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.800 absolutely right about that. So I'm hey, tight end is 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.680 a bigger need than it was two hours ago. There's 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.880 no doubt about that. Yeah. Um, you're still sticking with 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.840 the plan. Then I just knee jerk reactions in the 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.479 draft or a bad thing, are they not? Yeah? No, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:59.240 I don't totally. There's there's there's a you know, Joe 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.560 Flower mountains panicking a little bit right now. Yeah, even 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.640 though he wanted to push Jason Witten out of the door, 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.480 Joe and flower Mound does nothing but panic. That's just 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.680 the essence of Joe and flower Man. Joe, Joe and 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.080 Flower Mound has been tweeting at you and I saying 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.840 Witton is a progress stopper. Get him out of here. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.560 But now it's like, oh my gosh, you my gods, 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.320 gonna catch those passes you've got You've got to figure out, 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.480 Oh it's fifty, you've got to hit the tight end 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:23.640 by the way last. I can ask it. Just to 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:25.240 kind of circle back, this is gonna be kind of 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.800 a little bit of a different thought. Okay, do you 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.760 feel like the people wanted Ridley? Were they really really 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.840 on the Ridley train last night? I honestly, I think 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:36.360 I'm sorry, I'm just kind of going off the track 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.520 there a little bit. Whatever. That's what that's what we do. Yeah, 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.320 I know, but I just popped in my mind when 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.760 you start talking about I feel like, who Joe and 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.080 Flower Mound really wanted. If you're trying to take the 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.680 pulse of the fan base, I think when Derwin James 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.880 fell as far as he did, that's what it was. 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.279 It was Derwin James. I saw some people complaining that 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:57.640 they didn't get a receiver, but the overwhelming you know, 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.880 if you're talking about the fan reaction, I think the 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.240 overwhelming reaction was that people wanted them to make a 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.760 play for Derwin James because he's seen by so many 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.440 people as a top five talent. Yeah, I kinda. So 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.160 it's not it's not Ridley or more. I think I 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:13.880 like to think that we've done a good job of 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.200 preparing people for It was Derwin James. It was really 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:20.160 Derwin James. Everybody was Harold Landry too, and that's gonna 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.600 be Okay, here's that's gonna be the big one. Here's 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.360 here's the story on Harold Landry. Okay, okay, talk to 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.640 several guys around the league. That's one of the great 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.120 things about driving home at one thirty in the morning. Yeah, 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.480 just call guys and they're up. Yeah, they're they're they're 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.520 still wound up from the draft that they're interested in 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.240 talking to you about thirty and forty minutes about. The 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.080 thing about Landry is teams. It's a little bit like 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.400 what I was hearing with Durwin James. That was the 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:47.160 tape in seventeen not as good as sixteen. Well, okay, 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.680 we've documented that. But they kind of look at him 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:54.320 though as a guy that really how important is it 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.760 to him? M m. You know, they want they're trying 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.000 to think Is this guy really a glass eater? You 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.360 know what I'm saying. That's an interesting point, and that 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.680 that's kind of where I think that's where a lot 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.840 of people are looking at him and saying, Okay, he's 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.920 got talent, but is it really the most important thing 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.160 to him? They felt like that he quit on his team. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.400 That scouts tell me last night, and not cowboy scouts, 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.480 I mean, I'm somehot scouts around the league that when 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:23.360 it came to the bowl game, he just totally shut 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.280 it down. And guys have done that because they're they're 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.880 getting ready for the draft or whatever. But they felt 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.280 like that he just flat quit on his team and 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:35.320 that rubbed someone scouts the wrong way about him, and 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.880 they're they're looking at him going, Okay, talented guy, but 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.000 is he gonna quit on you? And and that's where 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.679 and see, this is the problem that you and Dane 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.719 and I have. We don't get to meet these guys. 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.920 Might let me tell you another thing too about about Daniels, 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:56.080 I mean James James Daniels Iowa. Yeah, there's another guy 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.600 that they they say is oh, I was asking, okay, 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.880 surprising that rag Now got drafted I mean very And 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.440 they were like, no, yeah, because they go the character 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:11.080 salt of the earth guy, quality competitor, is an eight 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.600 Is he as talented as James Daniel? Absolutely not. But 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.120 on the flip side of that, when you look at 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.120 importance and all that, they say the same thing that 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.840 they're saying about Landry about James Daniels. Wow, they're saying, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.440 James Daniels an eight athlete eight player. Is he better 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:32.360 than rag On? Absolutely he is, But down after down, 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:37.880 day after day, they worry about his overall toughness. And 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.720 that's why I think that that maybe again we're watching 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.600 the tape and I had scouts tell me, oh, no, Brian, 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.600 you got him in the first round. You're absolutely right. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.520 That's so interesting, and I mean in in some way 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.880 I I love my scout friends. Well, it goes back 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.520 to it goes back to Josh Rosen that you know, 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:57.840 maybe the most pro ready quarterback. That's the label that 0:09:57.880 --> 0:09:59.960 you keep putting on Josh Rosen. He's the guy that's 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.000 the best suited to step in and do it. But 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.280 he was fault. He fell all the way to ten 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.400 because some people don't like his attitude and they're like, oh, 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.199 he thinks he's smarter than me, screw him. Well, yeah, 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.600 that's the whole that's the whole thing. I mean. But 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.640 I was faster because I was I wanted to know, Okay, 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.000 was it? Is it injury? Was it? What was it 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:22.440 on Landry? And like to a man coast to coast? 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.240 Was you know? Of course he didn't. You know, everybody 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:29.280 knows he didn't play well. But how reliable is he? 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.880 How tough is he? Is this guy a glass eater? 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.400 You know? And you're like going, well, I mean I 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.920 can't I can't figure that out. But anyway, that's another Well, no, 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.599 that's sorry, No, that's good conversation. Yeah, I want to 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.920 get back to it, but I just went it was 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.080 in my mind. I'm not I'm not done with these 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.080 tight ends. Oh I know you're not. I know you're not, 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:51.320 which but okay, So the the after that digression, the 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.520 point is, I'm just I'm not convinced that you let 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.080 this significantly alter you know, if you had a plan 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:01.840 for today, I don't think you significantly changed that plan. Yeah, 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.320 based on the fact that you don't have Jason Witten. 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.199 And I'm not trying to downplay Jason when I think 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:07.880 he's still he's a better player than a lot of 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.840 fans want to give him credit for. But like I said, 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.600 if if you felt like you were going to use 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.960 a premium pick on a tight end, you wouldn't have 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.040 let Jason Witten get in the way. And you would 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.880 have had Mike Jessecki here, you would have had Mark 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.240 Andrews here, you would have brought in Dallas Goddard. You 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:24.920 would have taken a look at some of these guys. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:26.760 And they didn't do that that, not even they didn't 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.559 even look at down the line guys, which is kind 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.760 of surprising. Yeah. They and Stephen Jones even said it though, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.480 as we were coming in, As I was coming in, 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.560 he was saying, yeah, we're really happy with your tight ends, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.160 but you got nine catches among them. Yeah, oh no, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.040 And hey, good for them. They feel great about Blake 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:47.200 Jarwin Rico gathers as the great, the hope of all hopes, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.360 the hype of all hypes. Yeah, and then I think 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.680 Jeff Swims an underrated player too. But man, you can't 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.520 look at that and feel like you're set. Having said that, 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.000 I mean, you know, okay, so they picked twice today, 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.599 assuming nothing else crazy happens. Yeah, we still got to 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.960 get into maybe that guy in the Northwest. Yeah, no, 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:07.880 I was gonna. I mean, there's no guarantee that nothing 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.800 else crazy happens. I mean, this could go down as 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.640 an all timer day in Cowboys history. Um but let okay, 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.080 let's say that they make their picks tonight. So you've 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.640 made three picks. Yeah, you've got seven left. Oh, we've 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.920 played this game. We've got seven. Let and that's why. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.520 So you know I'm not ready to panic and that 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:28.199 you know, Ian Thomas is a guy. Durham smythe is 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:32.040 a guy. Troy Fumagali and your boy Will Disley are guys. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.800 Actually I picked Willy. I told you that I mocked 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.200 him a tight end in the seventh round. Did jack him? 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:41.439 Marcus Baugh Ohio State, Ohio state, long on talent, short 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.960 on production, right right, kind of got him? Yeah, you 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:47.800 got him, I think. And again, you know, if you're 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.280 listening at home, don't scream at me. I'm not saying that, 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.280 you know, like they don't need any help at tight end. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.880 I'm saying there are ways you can address this without 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.720 just going over the top and knee jerking about it. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:01.400 I mean, give me, like, Okay, Um, where'd you where'd 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.520 you pick will this Lee six What if I told 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:06.880 you you could get Ian Thomas at pick one sixteen? 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.200 Does that do anything for Oh? No, because I got 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.160 a third round grade on him. That's a that's a 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:12.839 complete value to me. I mean, I think you'd have 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.040 to take him at eighty one myself. But let's say 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.920 he's there. Yeah, absolutely, yes, Yes, he's a no brainer. 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.160 Draft a talented tight end at one sixteen and he 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:22.840 could come in here and he doesn't have to be 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.199 any better than your third tight end because I do 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:29.360 think I think between Jarwin and Swim you can be adequate, 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.719 not great, but adequate. Yeah. Um, draft a guy to 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.760 add to the mix, and if it's a nightmare, then 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:36.640 you know what, you got a draft heading in the 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.120 next year's draft. I just I was listening to you 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.600 the whole time. Were you that was? I didn't mean 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.320 to be, but I was. I should have come in 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.040 earlier and done a little research, but this hit me. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.040 I didn't know that we were gonna lose our Well, yeah, dude, 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.240 I was. I was wandering around my apartment in my 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.800 gym shorts this morning, like you know, brushing my teeth, 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:57.280 just kind of daily dallying around, like all right, we 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.760 got to talk about some stuff, and then my whole 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.400 old flipped upside down. Yeah, okay, here we go. I 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.640 went through teams that could use a tight end. Yeah, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.320 oh okay, yeah yeah. I didn't even bring in my 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.160 crap in here here. It's all a memory for you, Dave. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.200 It's all good teams need to tie in at some 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.439 point in time. I mean, these are six seven needs. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.000 I'm not saying it has to be a first round 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:22.680 or second round whatever. Do it. Buffalo Carolina, Cincinnati, Carolina 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.920 needs a tight end. They have like the best one, Reese. Well, 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.120 you know they're thinking about older guy. Just just I'm 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:33.480 just saying again one through seven needs, Okay, Dallas, yep, Detroit, 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:44.720 Green Bay, Houston, Jacksonville, so everybody, Kansas City, Chargers, Dolphins, Saints. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:48.560 You just listed half the league. Eagles make any sense 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.960 to you? Right there? And you hit you, they hit you. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.440 I hit you right there that well, And I don't 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:54.840 have the order off the top of mine. I got 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:56.960 it right here. Based on what you just said, it 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.080 sounds like you want to grab one at eighty one maybe, 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.400 or do you want to grab one of I'm thinking 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.320 fifty just because let's go fifty. That's just that's their 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.160 first pick of the night. All right, let's see, did 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.480 we we didn't say? Okay, thirty three is Cleveland. I'm 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.120 guessing there's four teams ahead of them that could use 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:17.120 a tight end. Giants, now Cleveland. No, Indie was a team. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:18.680 There was a team I mentioned. I don't know, but 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.480 I can't think of it. Indie was not a team 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:27.040 I mentioned. Okay, okay, no Indie, Tampa nope, Chicago no, No, Denver, 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:32.360 no Oakland, no Miami. At forty two, there you go. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:38.920 There's one New England forty three, Washington forty four, didn't 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:45.640 mention them, green Bay forty five mentioned them, Cincinnati mentioned them. Yeah, 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:50.760 so the six Arizona forty seven, No Chargers forty Chargers 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.840 are gonna mess your whole draft up. The Chargers are 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:58.040 the Chargers. I think the Cowboys were. I'm getting back 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.080 to something. Say you can't help yourself, You're gonna and 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:01.800 dive back. I'm gonna dive back. Okay, let me I 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.600 see this. I think that they were. I think that 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.920 they were totally comfortable taking Vanderesh no matter what. Actually, 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.400 I'm glad. I think they were. I don't. I don't 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.960 not comfortable. They were ready, they were excited. Yeah, they 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.520 were ready. And this isn't me telling you that he's 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.440 the best player in the draft. Like I'm not trying 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.160 to I'm not trying to sell you. I'm telling you. Yeah, 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:21.960 take a look, go back and watch that. I was 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.720 talking about this on Twitter this morning. Yeah, go to 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.040 watch the war room cam. Yeah, they weren't making calls. 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:32.280 They weren't. They weren't. I think if Derwin James was 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.200 on the board at nineteen, I still think they would 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.760 have taken Land. I don't. I think you're absolutely right 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:39.760 and I'm not. I'm not. You're not. You shouldn't speculate 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.120 about that. I think you're absolutely right about Go look 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.160 at the war room camera from last night when they're 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.320 kind of getting close to their Vanderesh was their guy. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.640 They might as well have just been having tea like 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.200 they're watching the Master, just like, oh that was a 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.960 nice put. Yeah cool, Like they don't care. Okay, but 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.120 if you were taking if you're taking a tight end 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.160 at fifty again, here you go. I mean that's I 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.840 I'm not doing it for whatever that's worth. And also, 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.159 I think you got to keep in mind, Okay, Dallas 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.920 Goddard is Dane's highest rated tight end. Mike Gasecki is 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.399 an athletic freak. He's he's he's gonna be the Jimmy 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.640 Graham comparison. Andrews is a big man that can move 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.720 down the field too, not so much in line stuff, 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.720 but he's a big man. I'm not I'm somebody that 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.600 wants one of those guys might have to trade up, 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.280 especially somebody as far back as the Cowboys like I will. 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.040 I'm not gonna be surprised if Mike Gasecki or Dallas 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.720 Goddard or both is picked before Pick forty tonight. That 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.480 wouldn't surprise me. And you gotta think when one goes, 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.440 the other one's gonna go soon after that, right, Yeah, 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:42.240 I so do you still pick okay? Say oh, for 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:47.920 say example, say just sick he's on the board at fifty. Okay, 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:52.760 But you also have the opportunity to grab Courtland Sutton. 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.879 That's hard for me because I don't like Courtland Sutton 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.159 that much. But I think they love him, That's what 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.320 I'm saying. I think they would turn around. Yeah, it 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:03.639 would be just like the whole thing which we went 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.840 through with Durwin James. Yeah, like everybody would be like, 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.760 because you got your tight end a little and then 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:10.920 they draft the guy that you don't want. Yeah, kind 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.080 of like the Saints did to us yesterday. Yeah. Oh 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.040 my god, that's I heard it from people from home 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.399 about that. Man. I had like ten texts from people 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:22.200 from home just like what just happened? Yeah. Um, but 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.320 but you're you're you're thinking that, you're thinking that you 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:28.000 would have to you think you're gonna are You're not 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.080 thinking about you're thinking at tight end more eighty one. 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.679 That's my safety. If you don't make this trade for 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.679 the guy in the Northwest, welcome to the fun of 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:36.520 the draft, right, I mean, okay, if they made the 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:40.840 trade for the guy in the northwest, eighty one is 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.679 got it? Is it receiver tight end? Okay? It's is it? Like? 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.560 It's not It's not Sutton. It's probably something like James Washington. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.800 You can call me all the nasty names you want, 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.320 but I'm not rehe and Thomas or James Washington. I'm 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.040 not going to reinvent my draft strategy based on the 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.480 retirement of a guy who was about to start his 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:03.960 sixteen season. I think, I mean, I'm really I'm not 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.320 gonna sweat tight end until tomorrow, whether that's the fourth 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.560 round or the seventh. I think they need to draft one, 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:13.879 but I'm not suddenly gonna make a priority out of 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.360 this position where they clearly haven't made a priority out 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.119 of it. One sixteen, one thirty seven somewhere right there. 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.200 I would love to Drafty and Thomas at one sixteen. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.080 I don't know if it's realistic, but man, that, oh, 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:24.920 Dane's gonna walk in and tell you there's no way 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.040 he's gone. He's going at seventy five. Yeah, there's no 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:32.400 way that that happens. I mean, I just I think 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.240 you're kind of sitting there now, you're kind of thinking 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.520 about am I wrong? Am I do? Do we do 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.879 they need to be drastically changing? I don't think they do. 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:43.359 I don't think they do. Are we wrong? Are we 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:48.480 just being idiots? Right now? I'll put it in similar terms. 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.000 We've said, we've said a million times, we both agree 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:52.600