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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us well, Well,
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Speaker 1: breaking right now. Dame Brugler will be joining us here shortly.
Speaker 1: He has an assignment that he is working on, but
Speaker 1: he will come into the building and join the fray.
Speaker 1: We will talk about things. We're gonna reset this draft
Speaker 1: for you, talk about the guys who are on the board,
Speaker 1: still available, plenty of quality names of guys. I did
Speaker 1: a little research this morning, calling around the league and
Speaker 1: talking about some particular guys and you know, maybe why
Speaker 1: or why not on some certain players. But now that
Speaker 1: I have David Hellman in here, David Jason Witten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know about I know the show before us
Speaker 1: talking Cowboys Break. I know that they all got together.
Speaker 1: We're talking a little bit about Witten. The news came
Speaker 1: down from Chris Mortenson at ESPN that Jason Witten is
Speaker 1: retiring and going into Monday Night football, and I've listening
Speaker 1: to Stephen Jones talk about it. For the record, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's worth pointing out that, you know, Jason
Speaker 1: is expected to have a meeting with Jerry Jones today
Speaker 1: or had one. Right, everything I've read is that there's
Speaker 1: a caveat that he could change his mind. But okay,
Speaker 1: it certainly seems like all arrows are pointing toward him
Speaker 1: being done playing for the Cowboy. I'll tack Chris Mortenson
Speaker 1: on this one. Yeah, because Chris Mortenson of esp and
Speaker 1: generally when he throws something out right, it's usually coming
Speaker 1: from your right, the top of the food chain. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and the fact that he works for ESPN and ESPN
Speaker 1: has money Night football, Yeah, I think they kind of
Speaker 1: know what they're talking about. But you're fear fair. You're
Speaker 1: doing your journalistic duty by pointing out as I'm just
Speaker 1: driving the train off the track. But I mean, like
Speaker 1: I said, you always want to leave, especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to retirement. You want to leave some legal room.
Speaker 1: Think about Brett Farve. Yeah, well yeah that was a yo, yo.
Speaker 1: But it like I said, I feel pretty confident that
Speaker 1: this is gonna stick. Yeah, because I do too. I'm
Speaker 1: with you on this. Yeah. Okay. With that being said, David,
Speaker 1: a confidence factor that you have in the tight ends,
Speaker 1: the current roster of tight ends for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that group? And can I
Speaker 1: convince you to potentially take a tight end in this draft?
Speaker 1: I this isn't enough time for me to process everything
Speaker 1: because and I see your tweets. I've gotten at least
Speaker 1: six tweets saying I jinx the Cowboys because I've been
Speaker 1: the one ending on the table demanding that they not
Speaker 1: waste a draft pick on a tight end because Jason
Speaker 1: Witch kept trying to tell you take Ian Thomas third
Speaker 1: eighty one. I'm in, I'm in now, I'm in now. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean like, I'm proud of you for having the
Speaker 1: uh the under See, you're learning this a scout. You
Speaker 1: gotta learn. Hey, when you's when you're wrong, you're wrong.
Speaker 1: You move on. Wait, well, and I I would argue
Speaker 1: that I was not wrong, not that high. I thought
Speaker 1: Jason Witten was gonna be here in twenty six, twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: and I didn't make a lot of sense for me.
Speaker 1: But if he's not here, uh, it's hard to call
Speaker 1: one of the best tight ends of all time a
Speaker 1: progress stopper. But yeah, that's what I saw him as
Speaker 1: for a second or third round pick at tight end.
Speaker 1: But he's not there anymore. Um, That's that's the big question,
Speaker 1: is Okay? The obvious, the obvious talking point is that
Speaker 1: tight end all of a sudden shoots to the top
Speaker 1: of your needs list do more than free safety. Do
Speaker 1: you see it that way? I don't, Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: because you're talking to a guy in or a mock draft.
Speaker 1: It realized again this is still with Witten here. I
Speaker 1: gave the Cowboys in the sixth round Will Disley from Washington, right.
Speaker 1: I gave them a legitimate blocking tight end, is what
Speaker 1: I did. And Stephen Jones was just on one oh
Speaker 1: five three talking about you know, plans and how the
Speaker 1: college game has changed and you don't have inline blockers
Speaker 1: much anymore. And but there's some quality tight ends in
Speaker 1: this draft. I mean, there's some there are some quality
Speaker 1: times where you talk about guys that legitimately can get
Speaker 1: down the field. You know, when you talk about Dallas, Goddard,
Speaker 1: you talk about just Sicky, you talk about Andrews. We
Speaker 1: mentioned Ian Thomas was a guy. What's your grade on
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews? I got Mark Andrews in the second round. Goddard,
Speaker 1: I got him in the second round. Here are my
Speaker 1: tight ends Goddard, j Sicky, Andrews all second round guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: and I guess Here's here's where my brain is going
Speaker 1: as I and I think, and I know that, I
Speaker 1: know that when Dane pops in here, if we're constinuing,
Speaker 1: you talked about tight ends, God, it's going to be
Speaker 1: his first tight ends still on the board. Absolutely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Here's where my brain is going as I digest this.
Speaker 1: If tight end and this is me talking about the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: not me, Yeah, if tight end was such a dire situation,
Speaker 1: you're worried about how they're gonna use this guy, aren't you? Well?
Speaker 1: I am, obviously I am. Because they don't want to
Speaker 1: Why tight end? They don't, they don't play that game.
Speaker 1: They don't They want a guy that can block Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if tight end was such a dire situation that
Speaker 1: you were going to draw draft one in the second round,
Speaker 1: like we gotta have Mike Secki, then Jason Witten wouldn't
Speaker 1: stop you from doing that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: You're like, we gotta get this guy anyway, guy, did
Speaker 1: they bring any tight ends in? And if they really
Speaker 1: thought they needed one of the best tight ends in
Speaker 1: this draft, they would have brought some in even with
Speaker 1: Witten on the roster, because you never let a guy
Speaker 1: on your roster stop you from preparing for the future, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely right about that. So I'm hey, tight end is
Speaker 1: a bigger need than it was two hours ago. There's
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Yeah. Um, you're still sticking with
Speaker 1: the plan. Then I just knee jerk reactions in the
Speaker 1: draft or a bad thing, are they not? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: I don't totally. There's there's there's a you know, Joe
Speaker 1: Flower mountains panicking a little bit right now. Yeah, even
Speaker 1: though he wanted to push Jason Witten out of the door,
Speaker 1: Joe and flower Mound does nothing but panic. That's just
Speaker 1: the essence of Joe and flower Man. Joe, Joe and
Speaker 1: Flower Mound has been tweeting at you and I saying
Speaker 1: Witton is a progress stopper. Get him out of here.
Speaker 1: But now it's like, oh my gosh, you my gods,
Speaker 1: gonna catch those passes you've got You've got to figure out,
Speaker 1: Oh it's fifty, you've got to hit the tight end
Speaker 1: by the way last. I can ask it. Just to
Speaker 1: kind of circle back, this is gonna be kind of
Speaker 1: a little bit of a different thought. Okay, do you
Speaker 1: feel like the people wanted Ridley? Were they really really
Speaker 1: on the Ridley train last night? I honestly, I think
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm just kind of going off the track
Speaker 1: there a little bit. Whatever. That's what that's what we do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, but I just popped in my mind when
Speaker 1: you start talking about I feel like, who Joe and
Speaker 1: Flower Mound really wanted. If you're trying to take the
Speaker 1: pulse of the fan base, I think when Derwin James
Speaker 1: fell as far as he did, that's what it was.
Speaker 1: It was Derwin James. I saw some people complaining that
Speaker 1: they didn't get a receiver, but the overwhelming you know,
Speaker 1: if you're talking about the fan reaction, I think the
Speaker 1: overwhelming reaction was that people wanted them to make a
Speaker 1: play for Derwin James because he's seen by so many
Speaker 1: people as a top five talent. Yeah, I kinda. So
Speaker 1: it's not it's not Ridley or more. I think I
Speaker 1: like to think that we've done a good job of
Speaker 1: preparing people for It was Derwin James. It was really
Speaker 1: Derwin James. Everybody was Harold Landry too, and that's gonna
Speaker 1: be Okay, here's that's gonna be the big one. Here's
Speaker 1: here's the story on Harold Landry. Okay, okay, talk to
Speaker 1: several guys around the league. That's one of the great
Speaker 1: things about driving home at one thirty in the morning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just call guys and they're up. Yeah, they're they're they're
Speaker 1: still wound up from the draft that they're interested in
Speaker 1: talking to you about thirty and forty minutes about. The
Speaker 1: thing about Landry is teams. It's a little bit like
Speaker 1: what I was hearing with Durwin James. That was the
Speaker 1: tape in seventeen not as good as sixteen. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: we've documented that. But they kind of look at him
Speaker 1: though as a guy that really how important is it
Speaker 1: to him? M m. You know, they want they're trying
Speaker 1: to think Is this guy really a glass eater? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's an interesting point, and that
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I think that's where a lot
Speaker 1: of people are looking at him and saying, Okay, he's
Speaker 1: got talent, but is it really the most important thing
Speaker 1: to him? They felt like that he quit on his team.
Speaker 1: That scouts tell me last night, and not cowboy scouts,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm somehot scouts around the league that when
Speaker 1: it came to the bowl game, he just totally shut
Speaker 1: it down. And guys have done that because they're they're
Speaker 1: getting ready for the draft or whatever. But they felt
Speaker 1: like that he just flat quit on his team and
Speaker 1: that rubbed someone scouts the wrong way about him, and
Speaker 1: they're they're looking at him going, Okay, talented guy, but
Speaker 1: is he gonna quit on you? And and that's where
Speaker 1: and see, this is the problem that you and Dane
Speaker 1: and I have. We don't get to meet these guys.
Speaker 1: Might let me tell you another thing too about about Daniels,
Speaker 1: I mean James James Daniels Iowa. Yeah, there's another guy
Speaker 1: that they they say is oh, I was asking, okay,
Speaker 1: surprising that rag Now got drafted I mean very And
Speaker 1: they were like, no, yeah, because they go the character
Speaker 1: salt of the earth guy, quality competitor, is an eight
Speaker 1: Is he as talented as James Daniel? Absolutely not. But
Speaker 1: on the flip side of that, when you look at
Speaker 1: importance and all that, they say the same thing that
Speaker 1: they're saying about Landry about James Daniels. Wow, they're saying,
Speaker 1: James Daniels an eight athlete eight player. Is he better
Speaker 1: than rag On? Absolutely he is, But down after down,
Speaker 1: day after day, they worry about his overall toughness. And
Speaker 1: that's why I think that that maybe again we're watching
Speaker 1: the tape and I had scouts tell me, oh, no, Brian,
Speaker 1: you got him in the first round. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting, and I mean in in some way
Speaker 1: I I love my scout friends. Well, it goes back
Speaker 1: to it goes back to Josh Rosen that you know,
Speaker 1: maybe the most pro ready quarterback. That's the label that
Speaker 1: you keep putting on Josh Rosen. He's the guy that's
Speaker 1: the best suited to step in and do it. But
Speaker 1: he was fault. He fell all the way to ten
Speaker 1: because some people don't like his attitude and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: he thinks he's smarter than me, screw him. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the whole that's the whole thing. I mean. But
Speaker 1: I was faster because I was I wanted to know, Okay,
Speaker 1: was it? Is it injury? Was it? What was it
Speaker 1: on Landry? And like to a man coast to coast?
Speaker 1: Was you know? Of course he didn't. You know, everybody
Speaker 1: knows he didn't play well. But how reliable is he?
Speaker 1: How tough is he? Is this guy a glass eater?
Speaker 1: You know? And you're like going, well, I mean I
Speaker 1: can't I can't figure that out. But anyway, that's another Well, no,
Speaker 1: that's sorry, No, that's good conversation. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: get back to it, but I just went it was
Speaker 1: in my mind. I'm not I'm not done with these
Speaker 1: tight ends. Oh I know you're not. I know you're not,
Speaker 1: which but okay, So the the after that digression, the
Speaker 1: point is, I'm just I'm not convinced that you let
Speaker 1: this significantly alter you know, if you had a plan
Speaker 1: for today, I don't think you significantly changed that plan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: based on the fact that you don't have Jason Witten.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to downplay Jason when I think
Speaker 1: he's still he's a better player than a lot of
Speaker 1: fans want to give him credit for. But like I said,
Speaker 1: if if you felt like you were going to use
Speaker 1: a premium pick on a tight end, you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: let Jason Witten get in the way. And you would
Speaker 1: have had Mike Jessecki here, you would have had Mark
Speaker 1: Andrews here, you would have brought in Dallas Goddard. You
Speaker 1: would have taken a look at some of these guys.
Speaker 1: And they didn't do that that, not even they didn't
Speaker 1: even look at down the line guys, which is kind
Speaker 1: of surprising. Yeah. They and Stephen Jones even said it though,
Speaker 1: as we were coming in, As I was coming in,
Speaker 1: he was saying, yeah, we're really happy with your tight ends,
Speaker 1: but you got nine catches among them. Yeah, oh no,
Speaker 1: And hey, good for them. They feel great about Blake
Speaker 1: Jarwin Rico gathers as the great, the hope of all hopes,
Speaker 1: the hype of all hypes. Yeah, and then I think
Speaker 1: Jeff Swims an underrated player too. But man, you can't
Speaker 1: look at that and feel like you're set. Having said that,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, okay, so they picked twice today,
Speaker 1: assuming nothing else crazy happens. Yeah, we still got to
Speaker 1: get into maybe that guy in the Northwest. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I was gonna. I mean, there's no guarantee that nothing
Speaker 1: else crazy happens. I mean, this could go down as
Speaker 1: an all timer day in Cowboys history. Um but let okay,
Speaker 1: let's say that they make their picks tonight. So you've
Speaker 1: made three picks. Yeah, you've got seven left. Oh, we've
Speaker 1: played this game. We've got seven. Let and that's why.
Speaker 1: So you know I'm not ready to panic and that
Speaker 1: you know, Ian Thomas is a guy. Durham smythe is
Speaker 1: a guy. Troy Fumagali and your boy Will Disley are guys.
Speaker 1: Actually I picked Willy. I told you that I mocked
Speaker 1: him a tight end in the seventh round. Did jack him?
Speaker 1: Marcus Baugh Ohio State, Ohio state, long on talent, short
Speaker 1: on production, right right, kind of got him? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got him, I think. And again, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: listening at home, don't scream at me. I'm not saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, like they don't need any help at tight end.
Speaker 1: I'm saying there are ways you can address this without
Speaker 1: just going over the top and knee jerking about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, give me, like, Okay, Um, where'd you where'd
Speaker 1: you pick will this Lee six What if I told
Speaker 1: you you could get Ian Thomas at pick one sixteen?
Speaker 1: Does that do anything for Oh? No, because I got
Speaker 1: a third round grade on him. That's a that's a
Speaker 1: complete value to me. I mean, I think you'd have
Speaker 1: to take him at eighty one myself. But let's say
Speaker 1: he's there. Yeah, absolutely, yes, Yes, he's a no brainer.
Speaker 1: Draft a talented tight end at one sixteen and he
Speaker 1: could come in here and he doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: any better than your third tight end because I do
Speaker 1: think I think between Jarwin and Swim you can be adequate,
Speaker 1: not great, but adequate. Yeah. Um, draft a guy to
Speaker 1: add to the mix, and if it's a nightmare, then
Speaker 1: you know what, you got a draft heading in the
Speaker 1: next year's draft. I just I was listening to you
Speaker 1: the whole time. Were you that was? I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to be, but I was. I should have come in
Speaker 1: earlier and done a little research, but this hit me.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that we were gonna lose our Well, yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: I was. I was wandering around my apartment in my
Speaker 1: gym shorts this morning, like you know, brushing my teeth,
Speaker 1: just kind of daily dallying around, like all right, we
Speaker 1: got to talk about some stuff, and then my whole
Speaker 1: old flipped upside down. Yeah, okay, here we go. I
Speaker 1: went through teams that could use a tight end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh okay, yeah yeah. I didn't even bring in my
Speaker 1: crap in here here. It's all a memory for you, Dave.
Speaker 1: It's all good teams need to tie in at some
Speaker 1: point in time. I mean, these are six seven needs.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it has to be a first round
Speaker 1: or second round whatever. Do it. Buffalo Carolina, Cincinnati, Carolina
Speaker 1: needs a tight end. They have like the best one, Reese. Well,
Speaker 1: you know they're thinking about older guy. Just just I'm
Speaker 1: just saying again one through seven needs, Okay, Dallas, yep, Detroit,
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Houston, Jacksonville, so everybody, Kansas City, Chargers, Dolphins, Saints.
Speaker 1: You just listed half the league. Eagles make any sense
Speaker 1: to you? Right there? And you hit you, they hit you.
Speaker 1: I hit you right there that well, And I don't
Speaker 1: have the order off the top of mine. I got
Speaker 1: it right here. Based on what you just said, it
Speaker 1: sounds like you want to grab one at eighty one maybe,
Speaker 1: or do you want to grab one of I'm thinking
Speaker 1: fifty just because let's go fifty. That's just that's their
Speaker 1: first pick of the night. All right, let's see, did
Speaker 1: we we didn't say? Okay, thirty three is Cleveland. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing there's four teams ahead of them that could use
Speaker 1: a tight end. Giants, now Cleveland. No, Indie was a team.
Speaker 1: There was a team I mentioned. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I can't think of it. Indie was not a team
Speaker 1: I mentioned. Okay, okay, no Indie, Tampa nope, Chicago no, No, Denver,
Speaker 1: no Oakland, no Miami. At forty two, there you go.
Speaker 1: There's one New England forty three, Washington forty four, didn't
Speaker 1: mention them, green Bay forty five mentioned them, Cincinnati mentioned them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the six Arizona forty seven, No Chargers forty Chargers
Speaker 1: are gonna mess your whole draft up. The Chargers are
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I think the Cowboys were. I'm getting back
Speaker 1: to something. Say you can't help yourself, You're gonna and
Speaker 1: dive back. I'm gonna dive back. Okay, let me I
Speaker 1: see this. I think that they were. I think that
Speaker 1: they were totally comfortable taking Vanderesh no matter what. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I think they were. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: not comfortable. They were ready, they were excited. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were ready. And this isn't me telling you that he's
Speaker 1: the best player in the draft. Like I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to I'm not trying to sell you. I'm telling you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: take a look, go back and watch that. I was
Speaker 1: talking about this on Twitter this morning. Yeah, go to
Speaker 1: watch the war room cam. Yeah, they weren't making calls.
Speaker 1: They weren't. They weren't. I think if Derwin James was
Speaker 1: on the board at nineteen, I still think they would
Speaker 1: have taken Land. I don't. I think you're absolutely right
Speaker 1: and I'm not. I'm not. You're not. You shouldn't speculate
Speaker 1: about that. I think you're absolutely right about Go look
Speaker 1: at the war room camera from last night when they're
Speaker 1: kind of getting close to their Vanderesh was their guy.
Speaker 1: They might as well have just been having tea like
Speaker 1: they're watching the Master, just like, oh that was a
Speaker 1: nice put. Yeah cool, Like they don't care. Okay, but
Speaker 1: if you were taking if you're taking a tight end
Speaker 1: at fifty again, here you go. I mean that's I
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it for whatever that's worth. And also,
Speaker 1: I think you got to keep in mind, Okay, Dallas
Speaker 1: Goddard is Dane's highest rated tight end. Mike Gasecki is
Speaker 1: an athletic freak. He's he's he's gonna be the Jimmy
Speaker 1: Graham comparison. Andrews is a big man that can move
Speaker 1: down the field too, not so much in line stuff,
Speaker 1: but he's a big man. I'm not I'm somebody that
Speaker 1: wants one of those guys might have to trade up,
Speaker 1: especially somebody as far back as the Cowboys like I will.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be surprised if Mike Gasecki or Dallas
Speaker 1: Goddard or both is picked before Pick forty tonight. That
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. And you gotta think when one goes,
Speaker 1: the other one's gonna go soon after that, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I so do you still pick okay? Say oh, for
Speaker 1: say example, say just sick he's on the board at fifty. Okay,
Speaker 1: But you also have the opportunity to grab Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 1: That's hard for me because I don't like Courtland Sutton
Speaker 1: that much. But I think they love him, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think they would turn around. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: would be just like the whole thing which we went
Speaker 1: through with Durwin James. Yeah, like everybody would be like,
Speaker 1: because you got your tight end a little and then
Speaker 1: they draft the guy that you don't want. Yeah, kind
Speaker 1: of like the Saints did to us yesterday. Yeah. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's I heard it from people from home
Speaker 1: about that. Man. I had like ten texts from people
Speaker 1: from home just like what just happened? Yeah. Um, but
Speaker 1: but you're you're you're thinking that, you're thinking that you
Speaker 1: would have to you think you're gonna are You're not
Speaker 1: thinking about you're thinking at tight end more eighty one.
Speaker 1: That's my safety. If you don't make this trade for
Speaker 1: the guy in the Northwest, welcome to the fun of
Speaker 1: the draft, right, I mean, okay, if they made the
Speaker 1: trade for the guy in the northwest, eighty one is
Speaker 1: got it? Is it receiver tight end? Okay? It's is it? Like?
Speaker 1: It's not It's not Sutton. It's probably something like James Washington.
Speaker 1: You can call me all the nasty names you want,
Speaker 1: but I'm not rehe and Thomas or James Washington. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to reinvent my draft strategy based on the
Speaker 1: retirement of a guy who was about to start his
Speaker 1: sixteen season. I think, I mean, I'm really I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna sweat tight end until tomorrow, whether that's the fourth
Speaker 1: round or the seventh. I think they need to draft one,
Speaker 1: but I'm not suddenly gonna make a priority out of
Speaker 1: this position where they clearly haven't made a priority out
Speaker 1: of it. One sixteen, one thirty seven somewhere right there.
Speaker 1: I would love to Drafty and Thomas at one sixteen.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's realistic, but man, that, oh,
Speaker 1: Dane's gonna walk in and tell you there's no way
Speaker 1: he's gone. He's going at seventy five. Yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: way that that happens. I mean, I just I think
Speaker 1: you're kind of sitting there now, you're kind of thinking
Speaker 1: about am I wrong? Am I do? Do we do
Speaker 1: they need to be drastically changing? I don't think they do.
Speaker 1: I don't think they do. Are we wrong? Are we
Speaker 1: just being idiots? Right now? I'll put it in similar terms.
Speaker 1: We've said, we've said a million times, we both agree
Speaker 1: on this. We think they can win games with the
Speaker 1: receivers here right now? Right? Can you win games at
Speaker 1: these tight ends? I've seen Jeff Swain play. He's pretty good,
Speaker 1: he's he's not bad. I'll tell you, I'll be open,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying they're banking on now with with Hannah
Speaker 1: gone and went and gone, I'll be open. Those are
Speaker 1: like my two. Those are like my two guys. Be
Speaker 1: honest with me. You don't I just ask you that question.
Speaker 1: You don't. I didn't give you a good answer. You
Speaker 1: don't feel as good about the answer as you do
Speaker 1: about receiver. Do you I feel better about receiver? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: then I do? Tied in, So maybe does this? Does
Speaker 1: this prompt you to put receiver on the back burner?
Speaker 1: Even in the mock? I did? I had him taken
Speaker 1: the safety the more kid from from Southern miss Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then and then in third round, I somehow got
Speaker 1: James Washington there because because that's a stretch, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's impossible. But that's that's okay, Okay, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you just asked me this. I'm stealing your idea.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but knowing what we know right now, if
Speaker 1: it's if Ian Thomas and James Washington are there at
Speaker 1: eighty one, what are you doing? That's tough? You don't
Speaker 1: like that, dude, No, I don't like that, because see
Speaker 1: I have I have, but I'll tell you what it is.
Speaker 1: I have Washington the second round. Just trust the board.
Speaker 1: I trust my board. I've washing the second Thomas and
Speaker 1: the third you know what, and you know I might lose.
Speaker 1: And that's my board. And by the way, you can
Speaker 1: go on Dallas Cowboys dot com. You sure can. My
Speaker 1: board is up there. I think William is going to
Speaker 1: knock off all the players that have been selected, so
Speaker 1: you kind of have an idea of where that all goes.
Speaker 1: But I have a second round grade on Washington. Okay.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this though, If you told me
Speaker 1: I could get Pettis if you picked if it was
Speaker 1: Pettis or Ian Thomas, Yeah, well that would be tough
Speaker 1: for me too because I love Pettis. Feel better about
Speaker 1: the down the line receivers here like third round and
Speaker 1: on yeah, I do. Is your value at tight end
Speaker 1: start to become better on day three? Well? The thing
Speaker 1: about okay, we we we we mocked, we mocked smythe
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Yeah, and we've also we haven't talked about
Speaker 1: herndon the Miami tight End. Yeah, yeah, we haven't talked
Speaker 1: about him at all. Man this whole show is turning
Speaker 1: into I mean, I didn't talk well, I know, one
Speaker 1: of the best players in franchise history, and there's there's
Speaker 1: like first round players still on the board, you know,
Speaker 1: well with Daniels and Landry, and you know on my
Speaker 1: board there are what else I mean, I know, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm all saying I feel like that this thing.
Speaker 1: I wonder when Dane comes here, I wonder if he's
Speaker 1: going to feel better about the third and fourth round
Speaker 1: wide receivers or the third and fourth round tight ends
Speaker 1: I want and then man, and I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to happen for what it's worth, but it's just
Speaker 1: another level of insanity. If this team acquires he who
Speaker 1: must not be named later today, and not only I
Speaker 1: mean great for the Dallas defense. I mean, you're putting
Speaker 1: up all pro in the middle of your defense. But
Speaker 1: that's one less pick to address these problems with. Of
Speaker 1: course you no longer need to various More or Tracy Walker,
Speaker 1: but no, yeah, you lose, you lose all that. You
Speaker 1: lose Southern Miss Louisiana, Lafayette, Kid Walker and more. That's
Speaker 1: one fewer picks too, or maybe multiple fewer picks. To
Speaker 1: address tight end left guard. You want another linebacker, you
Speaker 1: still would think you want a receiver, You want that
Speaker 1: third running back. So they got their work cut out here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they already had their work cut out. And now
Speaker 1: add another item to the grocery list. With Jason Witten
Speaker 1: retiring allegedly, I'm gonna go through. I know Dane's he
Speaker 1: must be. They must be wearing him out. And wherever
Speaker 1: he's doing stuff right now as a radio hit, if
Speaker 1: they're talking there for thirty minutes, he's used to it. Yeah, players,
Speaker 1: I'll just name my players. I'm gonna write about these
Speaker 1: guys too, David later on my best Available Harold Landry,
Speaker 1: I'm scoring off my top fifty folks. By the way,
Speaker 1: you can follow along. That's another thing of posts on
Speaker 1: Dallas cotways dot com. Yeah, I think about this and
Speaker 1: do you all stuff in black and white? Yeah, it
Speaker 1: follows you rest of your life. Yeah, it's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: someone's gonna remind me. But like I said, hey, as
Speaker 1: soon as this news hits, I just got bombarded with people. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh they don't need a tight end, huh, dumbass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks appreciate that. My best available would be up my
Speaker 1: top fifty. Harold Landry, the defensive in form Boston College again,
Speaker 1: and we talked about that earlier. My scout buddies around
Speaker 1: the league. The same scout buddies had told me that
Speaker 1: James was gonna slide a little bit. Here comes my
Speaker 1: man mentioned somebody is wearing him out on the radio
Speaker 1: today for sure. Exact that all read these off for me,
Speaker 1: so we can get Jane's input. Okay, I got my
Speaker 1: guys left, and he'll get to his guys. I know,
Speaker 1: I got Harold Landry left, I've got James Daniels left.
Speaker 1: I've got will Hernandez left. I've got Connor Williams. I
Speaker 1: got a pretty good offensive line left. How you do?
Speaker 1: Then Courtland's Sutton, Ronald Jones, Dallas Goddard, carry On Johnson
Speaker 1: the running back from Auburn, Anthony Miller, the wide receiver,
Speaker 1: Darius Geiss, Michael Gallup, Sam Hubbart and Carlton Davis, Nathan Shephard,
Speaker 1: James Washington, Josie Jewel, Golden Sonat Harrison, O'Neill, Griffin, and Hurst.
Speaker 1: We all know about Hurst in his situation, so we'll
Speaker 1: see how those I'll write about these guys on Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. When you were gone, I talked about it.
Speaker 1: I talked to some guys around the league about Landry
Speaker 1: and also Daniels medicals not medicals, questions about they worried
Speaker 1: about Landry quitting on his team during the bowl game,
Speaker 1: and that he the fact that why didn't he play better?
Speaker 1: The tape, the injury, They'll say all that, but they
Speaker 1: still think like that. They still think he's a good
Speaker 1: football player. But there was questions about really how dedicated
Speaker 1: he was. The term I heard was he's not a
Speaker 1: glass eater. That that doesn't that doesn't surprise me because
Speaker 1: we talked about the take on things like that, and
Speaker 1: you watched the Notre Dame tape and it's just we
Speaker 1: chalked it up to injury. Yeah, but there are a
Speaker 1: lot of plays where he's just going half speed, you know,
Speaker 1: he's going through the motions and you just, I mean,
Speaker 1: don't be on the field if that's the case. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so there's you know, he pulled out the Senior Bowl. Sure,
Speaker 1: he originally committed them out. He told me he just
Speaker 1: didn't feel a hundred percent. I'm sure that's part of it.
Speaker 1: But in the NFL, you're rarely percent. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: on the season opener in game one, maybe you are.
Speaker 1: But you just have to learn to play with with injury.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Um, I guess it doesn't surprise me, but
Speaker 1: it's uh, I'm still surprised that he's fallen to this point. Okay.
Speaker 1: And the same thing on Daniels. They asked about Ragna
Speaker 1: being a surprise, They're like, no, because he's as salt
Speaker 1: of the earth guy, tough guy, gives you everything he's got,
Speaker 1: plays hard every snap. Daniels they say, you know what,
Speaker 1: he is clearly more talented, clearly better than Ragno, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that fire in his belly. They worry
Speaker 1: about that long term finesse. Yeah, a little bit, a
Speaker 1: little bit of a it's not really that important to him. Interesting.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's kind of some of the things. Oh, anyway,
Speaker 1: let's go to you have a question for Dane or
Speaker 1: something on that. Well, I'm just intrigued by the names
Speaker 1: you read off there, because I either I don't know
Speaker 1: what the hell I'm doing or but that's okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I've got some really good football players left, Dane.
Speaker 1: You can kind of run through some of your guys.
Speaker 1: I don't think. Did you mention Josh Jackson. Yeah, Josh
Speaker 1: Jackson was another one I used on my board exactly.
Speaker 1: He's right behind Sam Hubbard. I went over him. There's
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good names, and I mean the
Speaker 1: tight ends now stick out like okay, we've been kind
Speaker 1: of hammering that one out. Okay, and you and your
Speaker 1: best tight end is still available. I did. I did
Speaker 1: a thing for for Hellman. Teams that need tight ends, Buffalo, Carolina, Cincinnati, Dallas.
Speaker 1: Miami's a team to watch. There's Miami's on this list. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, and here we go Miami, and you're
Speaker 1: absolutely right Dane Miami at two forty two, they're they're
Speaker 1: right there, heady eight picks. I did a second on
Speaker 1: mock Yeah, and that's where I had Dallas Goddard going,
Speaker 1: did you have any other tight ends just sicky or anything? Sick?
Speaker 1: I had going to Detroit right at So that was
Speaker 1: after the fifty one. So that's after Dallas. Detroit needs
Speaker 1: a tight end badly. Okay, They're tight end depth chart
Speaker 1: is trash. So yeah, and they were on the list. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Gezki, I think would make sense for them. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna take long for him to shoot to the
Speaker 1: top of that depth Chartum, but it's interesting that Detroit's
Speaker 1: picking a fifty one, yeah, one spot behind Dallas who
Speaker 1: it's feasible tight ends in the conversation. Now, yeah, well
Speaker 1: who's who's now become the new trade up two team
Speaker 1: green Bay at forty five. I mean the Detroit might
Speaker 1: see Dallas needing a tight end. Well, if I'm Dallas,
Speaker 1: I that all right. Let me ask you this, Dallas,
Speaker 1: do the Dallas need to go for the wide receiver
Speaker 1: or sit at fifty and draft to tight end? Can
Speaker 1: you sit at fifty and draft to tight end? That's
Speaker 1: the thing if you want to tight it, If you
Speaker 1: want to tight end, I think you get to go
Speaker 1: and get him. Well, he just gave me, he said
Speaker 1: Jasicky was there on was on the board. But I
Speaker 1: don't think Kisiki works for this team because a big
Speaker 1: part of the tight end the run game. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: get sick. He's not going to give you that as
Speaker 1: an inline. He's a terrible blocker. And that's what I
Speaker 1: worry about if if they if they want to tight end,
Speaker 1: they probably have to go and get Dallas daughter. Maybe
Speaker 1: they're gonna change the scheme. Well, actually, I literally And
Speaker 1: the fun thing about this is like we're all processing
Speaker 1: this in the moment, but hey, so are they. Yeah? Right,
Speaker 1: I've been saying since he was drafted that I want
Speaker 1: I mean, you can get your ten personnel on the
Speaker 1: field now, guys. Yeah, you can get your Ryan Switzer
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley package on the field now. Yeah. And that's
Speaker 1: a good point, like, would they change a scheme, would
Speaker 1: they change their attack? Maybe. I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: change the scheme, but I they're gonna change the way
Speaker 1: they deploy it, I think. And I mean, let's be
Speaker 1: perfectly frank, and obviously this team values blocking, it values
Speaker 1: the run game. But I'm not going to do a
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff because it doesn't suit Jason Witten. Well,
Speaker 1: and if you draft a guy who can do some
Speaker 1: of that stuff, maybe you're a little more willing to
Speaker 1: do it. Maybe you go for more of a blocking
Speaker 1: tight end on day three. That's and that's the conversation.
Speaker 1: So going back to that point, and hey, Mia Colpa
Speaker 1: all time, you're a guy or my guy, you're a guy.
Speaker 1: Ryan Izzo Florida State. The thing I think you might
Speaker 1: be the I might be I don't know disleyan Iszzo.
Speaker 1: I don't know best blocking tight end in the We
Speaker 1: gave you two names if you want blocking cats, and
Speaker 1: day three, go for it. I locked him. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I was right about that. Vanderesh, by
Speaker 1: the way, I don't you were a long time ago.
Speaker 1: We wentever, I just gave up. I did give up,
Speaker 1: didn't I gave He's gonna be the pick, He's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good player. I'm I'm the player defender over here. Me,
Speaker 1: Taco and Layton are gonna hang out and see what
Speaker 1: happened ox Start. You're all to Oxnard, you go to
Speaker 1: the Western Sizzler. Yeah, I'm so much more excited about
Speaker 1: Laton Vanders and I am Taco Charles. I think another level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited for Laton Vanderesh. How excited would you
Speaker 1: be if they took fifty and moved it for Earl Thomas?
Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be excited about it. You're getting a
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame player, Okay, you're getting a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 1: I have not I'm focused on these guys. I know
Speaker 1: you are no no, but I just say I'm just
Speaker 1: saying of your if you were Danes, like, go read
Speaker 1: my Beast from two thousand and ten if you want
Speaker 1: to know about Earl time. By the way that guy
Speaker 1: lift your beast, I don't know he. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: fine with people printing it out and all that, but
Speaker 1: looked nice, by the way. I just I didn't see
Speaker 1: my cover on it. Yeah. Yeah, by the way, don't
Speaker 1: don't lift Danes work enough people, I mean, sold over
Speaker 1: five thousand copies of that thing. Enough people have it
Speaker 1: where you're gonna get exposed. Yum. So Earl Thomas, I
Speaker 1: don't know what he You know, is he still playing
Speaker 1: in a Pro Bowl level? We know he's a little older.
Speaker 1: All that in the extensions obviously a big part of it.
Speaker 1: It's a loaded conversation. But again, I think they have
Speaker 1: a window right now to win. And if I have
Speaker 1: a chance to get a Hall of Fame player, a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player, I'm gonna do it. I hate to
Speaker 1: give up that pick because there's so many needs. No,
Speaker 1: we just named we named so many guys at fifty
Speaker 1: you could take here's i't even package that stuff and
Speaker 1: go up. I mean they got ammunition to go to
Speaker 1: go get a pick. I don't want to change. I really,
Speaker 1: I don't want to change my philosophy based on something
Speaker 1: like this and that. I mean, like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not trying to convince you that tight end
Speaker 1: isn't a need. You got seven picks tomorrow where you
Speaker 1: can address it in a manner that works. I feel
Speaker 1: I feel a lot better about this team. If Will
Speaker 1: Disley's on it, then I do right now. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean I need to get rid of a pick to
Speaker 1: go get Mike Gasecki or or Dallas Goddard. Um. I
Speaker 1: agree with you with the third round pick, but with
Speaker 1: two fours, I have no problem giving up one of those.
Speaker 1: That's fair to get a guy in a second. What
Speaker 1: if I and I actually Brian yelled at me because
Speaker 1: he said that you're gonna call me crazy. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it will happen. But what if I told you
Speaker 1: that for some reason, you could draft Ian Daniels at
Speaker 1: one sixteen Ian Thomas and you're sorry Daniels, Yeah, Ian Thomas,
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, sign me up? All right, he's he's my
Speaker 1: sixty seventh overall player. But see, that's I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: not you're being You're you're being unrealistic about where the
Speaker 1: spot is. Did you think Harold Landry would still be
Speaker 1: here right and here on Friday? I didn't think. I
Speaker 1: didn't think rash Penny was gonna get picked either, and
Speaker 1: when he paid the draft is a strange lady, Brian,
Speaker 1: strange lady. You know what you're absolutely so. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's gonna happen. I'm saying there are ways that
Speaker 1: you can adequately address this position without doing something drastic
Speaker 1: with your second round pick. That's my only point. That's
Speaker 1: and that's fair. I think if you want like an
Speaker 1: Ian Thomas, I think you have to take him in
Speaker 1: the third round. And the only game with Ian Thomas
Speaker 1: is he almost needs like a red shirt year, you know,
Speaker 1: like he's not gonna help this team, and two has
Speaker 1: an eighteen to a certain extent. Now, it's not like
Speaker 1: the depth that tight ends. Really, we're leading the league
Speaker 1: in red shirting tight ends. That's well, that's all we've
Speaker 1: ever done here. I know that. And that No, no, which, no,
Speaker 1: the not having Jason Witten, no, what other options do
Speaker 1: you have? Though? I love Ian Thomas, but I'm playing him.
Speaker 1: I'm not red shirting him. I'm tired of them picking
Speaker 1: guys and them not working out that way. No, figure
Speaker 1: it out, find what you got. We have a new
Speaker 1: tight end coach here every year. It's like my basket Robins.
Speaker 1: Oh I'll have Rocky Road. Oh I'll have mint chocolate
Speaker 1: chip today. Figure it out with the damn tight end here.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The Hall of Fame guy's
Speaker 1: going to retire. Figure it out with the rest of
Speaker 1: these guys. Rank, rank your priorities, and we'll just well,
Speaker 1: we're taking Earl Thomas off the table. I told you
Speaker 1: they can win games with the current wide receivers. Ran
Speaker 1: your rank, your priorities of what you would like to
Speaker 1: see address tonight if they come out of tonight with
Speaker 1: these two positions. On my mock draft, I had him
Speaker 1: taking I had him taking the the safety and then
Speaker 1: the wide receiver. More in Washington, Yeah, more in Washington,
Speaker 1: Southern Misso Oklahoma state. Yeah, that was my going in.
Speaker 1: You're usually your first feeling is the right feeling. What
Speaker 1: about you, Dane, But this is before the Dave. I'm
Speaker 1: just tired of and I appreciate you, I really do.
Speaker 1: I'm not yelling at you. I'm tired of I'm tired
Speaker 1: of taking a player, and in week nine you figure out,
Speaker 1: oh wait, well he could play. You know, Taco, He's
Speaker 1: he It took them getting rid of guys for him
Speaker 1: to get on the field and finally figure it out.
Speaker 1: He was better, but but my gosh, it took for
Speaker 1: it seemed like it took forever to get him going.
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, Hey, guys, it's coached these
Speaker 1: guys a little bit. In a perfect world, you want
Speaker 1: to reach your Dan Thomas because again he's a Juco guy.
Speaker 1: He barely played Juco guy. You're not wrong, You're not
Speaker 1: senior year. He could he mean, you could put him
Speaker 1: on the f old and do it. It's just you're
Speaker 1: gonna take your lumps and so that's you know, ideally,
Speaker 1: in a perfect world, yes he gets a red shirt year.
Speaker 1: That's not always how it works out. That's why they're
Speaker 1: not going to take you and Thomas. I'll tell you why,
Speaker 1: because these guys don't have the ability to red shirt anybody.
Speaker 1: It's a valid point, you know. That's why training for
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas. To me, if I'm Jason Garrett, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: wanting to move the Yeah. Bringham More important for you
Speaker 1: to get a tight end tonight or a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Well that we all right, We've we talked about wide
Speaker 1: receiver all the time. I think guard is another thing
Speaker 1: that stands out to me. And then safety right free safety, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I owes three to me take precedence overtight end.
Speaker 1: Even without Jason Witten, this is going to be an
Speaker 1: interesting second round because, like I said, I I'm looking
Speaker 1: at a trade up. I want to see Dallas trade
Speaker 1: up here. I go from fifty package one of those fours,
Speaker 1: go up and get your guy, whether that's dj R,
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton, Yeah, one of these. Uh if Will Hernandez
Speaker 1: would fall and Dallas Gardard's still there, um, you know,
Speaker 1: go up and get one of these guys. I want
Speaker 1: to see them be a little aggressive. Uh Okay, Dallas
Speaker 1: Miami picks forty two. That's where I think Dallas Gard's going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: figure out a whe how to get to forty one
Speaker 1: and your boy, that's trade one of the fourth's, trade
Speaker 1: one of the six. Whatever it takes. Let's do some
Speaker 1: math here. Then if you want to go to forty
Speaker 1: guys who is named after the Dallas Cowboys, they do
Speaker 1: some math when we hear David Hellman, you're chick. I'm
Speaker 1: not good at No, you're good. Your pick is your
Speaker 1: pick at fifty is worth four hundred. Yeah, you're the
Speaker 1: we're danger trying to get you is worth that's forty
Speaker 1: one at Oakland, that's four ninety. That's only ninety points. Okay,
Speaker 1: you currently the closest you can get to that one
Speaker 1: thirty seven worth one thirty seven is worth only thirty
Speaker 1: eight points. That's the problem. People are like, oh, package
Speaker 1: all your day three picks. They're not worth that much.
Speaker 1: So you're thinking about if let's see and and sixty
Speaker 1: two is what you're one six Stein's worth. So you
Speaker 1: might have to you might have to part with both.
Speaker 1: Maybe you do a fourth this year and the fourth
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, you couldtually have to or both fourth,
Speaker 1: yeah or both forth. It's like, we saw much, now
Speaker 1: do you we saw? We saw no, but I still
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah. We saw Buffalo do it yesterday with Tampa. Right,
Speaker 1: what is this team ever done in the fourth round? Hey,
Speaker 1: Anthony Hinchins was a fourth round pick. So is the
Speaker 1: Q Oh yeah yeah wow yeah lesbian sarcast I hear you, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know I don't I want to see them
Speaker 1: be aggressive here and go up and get a guy. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean, who's the best tight end on this roster?
Speaker 1: If it's not Jason Winton crickets, ye, Jeff Swain. But default, yes,
Speaker 1: single digit catches and oh no they all do adam up.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, by default I can count I could
Speaker 1: count them all. Yeah that many? She Keene Griffin could
Speaker 1: probably count them all. Yeah, So Lesne with the savage remark, Sorry, no,
Speaker 1: it's the second day, talk to you. Um, I don't
Speaker 1: I get which I mean? This happens all the time.
Speaker 1: I said this last night, like the it all changes
Speaker 1: after the first round, like when the guys you brought
Speaker 1: in on the thirties are gone and the guys you
Speaker 1: like get picked. But I'm you know they I don't
Speaker 1: care what they say. If if they have been preparing
Speaker 1: for this possibility, they did a great job of hiding it,
Speaker 1: because I don't think they did exactly. And that's so
Speaker 1: to do something drastic like trade up for a position
Speaker 1: that you weren't doing a ton of homework on, is
Speaker 1: it drastic? Though? You're getting rid of two picks, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get you're getting rid of two fourth rounds, Like
Speaker 1: fourth round picks are valuable. I mean they all are.
Speaker 1: I get it. But and we don't know Like on
Speaker 1: my board, Dallas Guard, it's thirty fourth that's okay, I
Speaker 1: guess good value. We just don't know how they view it.
Speaker 1: Let me expound on a little bit more. Do you
Speaker 1: do that deal to go get a tight end that
Speaker 1: you haven't been doing a lot of homework on because
Speaker 1: Jason went and retired today? Or you do you do
Speaker 1: that deal to go get a receiver that all indications
Speaker 1: point towards you love him to death right? And I
Speaker 1: think we all agree this team likes Courtland Sutton quite
Speaker 1: a bit. I think, all things being equal, Like if
Speaker 1: you made me bet on a player that they're going
Speaker 1: to try to get tonight, it would be him. I agree,
Speaker 1: I agree. I think yeah, if whether and that's what
Speaker 1: we said, I think, I think you're right. They're gonna
Speaker 1: push the chips, but they're gett And that's my point.
Speaker 1: Do you, I mean, do you? That's what I'm saying too.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying trade up for a tight end. I
Speaker 1: just want to se him trade up. I want to
Speaker 1: see him trade up and go get that guy. Whether
Speaker 1: it's Dallas Goddard, whether it's Courtland Sutton, trade up and
Speaker 1: go get your guy. Don't wait at fifty and hope
Speaker 1: he falls, do you. They've made too big of a
Speaker 1: point about how valuable having all these picks are, and
Speaker 1: we know they're not going to use them all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've made too big of a point about it. And
Speaker 1: even hey, obvious the d Law trade worked out, but
Speaker 1: I remember I didn't love it at the time because
Speaker 1: I wanted that third round pick so badly. So if
Speaker 1: you can make a trade to go get somebody without
Speaker 1: giving up your third even better, I'm all in on that. Um. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Dallas's best offer, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: the now. Maybe they'll flip, you know, maybe they'll flip
Speaker 1: one of those what one ninety three or something like that,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever, sixth round. Maybe they'll say, Okay, here's
Speaker 1: a two and one ninety three, which is a six
Speaker 1: round pick. Maybe that's it, which and this is it
Speaker 1: kind of goes back to And there's no way to
Speaker 1: know this unless they want to show us their board,
Speaker 1: which sometimes they do on accident. Yeah, not often. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm me, I'm sitting here saying, well, my
Speaker 1: trading up to get Courtland Sutton because I love him,
Speaker 1: or it seems like a decent bet DJ Charcoal fall
Speaker 1: to me at fifty, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: they might not even see that as the same conversation,
Speaker 1: you know, Like they might they're like, well, we wouldn't
Speaker 1: even take Chark if he was there at fifty, you know,
Speaker 1: and hard to know that type of stuff, right, We've
Speaker 1: seen some guys slide in the first round. We've seen
Speaker 1: some guys slide here of Sutton and Chark. Who could
Speaker 1: be the slider that could get to you at fifty.
Speaker 1: Neither I don't think either, I really Okay, I'd be
Speaker 1: more surprised if Sutton was there than Chark, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I would expect they both go. I think both are
Speaker 1: gonna go. So in the first ten picks to the
Speaker 1: first ten tonight. Yeah, okay, so you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to You're gonna have to go up to get
Speaker 1: this guy. You're gonna have to get one of those guys.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to go really and and your spot
Speaker 1: and your spot, your spot is at Oakland at forty one.
Speaker 1: And in my mock that I did today. I had
Speaker 1: Um Sutton going to the Colts at thirty seven and
Speaker 1: Well Chark at forty five. So first fifteen picks in
Speaker 1: the second round, Okay, that's doable, and go up five spots.
Speaker 1: Currently those picks are being held. Give me the numbers,
Speaker 1: Skins thirty seven. Okay, it's Indianapolis and green Bay, right,
Speaker 1: So how much would it cost to trade up to
Speaker 1: forty four? Trade to forty four that's Washington, that's four sixty.
Speaker 1: It's a sixty point deal you could give. You could
Speaker 1: do it. You give it one, you give it one, sixteen,
Speaker 1: and you're on the button. I see. I would I
Speaker 1: would do that because I don't see a huge difference
Speaker 1: between Courtland Sutton and DJ Chark. But again it's all
Speaker 1: about what they think. And the thing is I would
Speaker 1: shade it for Anthony Miller. Well, yeah, that's don't you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they wait and we gotta
Speaker 1: clean bill of health on Anthony Miller by the way, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they said the foot he won't be available early like
Speaker 1: OTA's mini camp, but would be ready for training camp.
Speaker 1: That's what I heard it. Going back to Dallas, got
Speaker 1: it real quick. Remember he did not play in the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. It hurt. First practice, he got hurt, he
Speaker 1: was out, did not at the Combine. His Pro day
Speaker 1: was limited because he still wasn't quite one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: So this is a guy that I think, not only
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are a lot of teams are kind of
Speaker 1: and we like him. But he's going from the FCS
Speaker 1: and didn't really have the pre draft process that we
Speaker 1: hope to see him on the field, So little little
Speaker 1: uneasiness there. I'd still be surprised if he got past
Speaker 1: forty two Miami Dolphins. A right, Dane, Well, thank you
Speaker 1: very much. That's gonna be all the time that we
Speaker 1: have today. We have to get ready for for a
Speaker 1: press conference today. And is there a stone we're not
Speaker 1: guard What if will Hernandez falls? I don't see that
Speaker 1: he's gonna go to or the second pick in the
Speaker 1: second round of the Giants sounds about right. That sounds yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. I'm That's where I'm We've there's so much
Speaker 1: smoke on receiver. I'd be shocked not to see it
Speaker 1: come to pass. I think you guys rap sure. Okay, again,
Speaker 1: that's all the time we have. We gotta get ready
Speaker 1: for Clayton vander Esh's press conference. By the way, he
Speaker 1: is gonna wear number fifty five. Rolando. Let's go for
Speaker 1: your Dallas Cowboys. Okay. So for my Scoutny buddies, Dane Burglar,
Speaker 1: David helmat K Garrison Executive Producing, we're gonna be with
Speaker 1: you tonight. We're gonna start at five forty five tonight.
Speaker 1: We'll be working with h Kevin Turner and Jeff Kavanaugh
Speaker 1: one oh five three, so the band will all be together.
Speaker 1: We're gonna carry you through the next two days. So
Speaker 1: luke forward to seeing you. Then you guys, take care
Speaker 1: of watch that last minute tape, figure some things out,
Speaker 1: and we'll see you then