1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Dearest John, it's been a fortnight since I felt your 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: warm embrace. 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Dear Sam, such it has since we started the Okay 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Storytell podcast. 5 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 3: Yes, and I have a message for you, a delicious 6 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 3: story that I think you'll love. 7 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Sincerely Sam. But before that, thine, divine two minute outbreak 8 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: must happen. I bid thee farewell. See you in two minutes. 9 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 4: I cut off my ex without letting him explain because 10 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 4: the situation is weird. 11 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't need to hear your story. 12 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 4: Okay, you're good. I, twenty female, broke up with my 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 4: ex boyfriend Hiram. 14 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: He is twenty two mail and I broke over with 15 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: him two days ago. 16 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 4: We met on a dating app a few months back 17 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 4: and officially dated for less than a month. During this time, 18 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 4: I met his sister, Daphne twenty one female, and i'd 19 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 4: also meet Hiram in person. When I met him in person, 20 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: things went well and he made a good impression on 21 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: my friends. By the way, this comes from Levy Athena 22 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 4: seven seven seventy five two and if you want to 23 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 4: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay 24 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 4: story Time Separate it. 25 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: So what's the problem. 26 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 4: The problem was that something didn't feel right about his 27 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 4: relationship with Daphne, not that anything was inappropriate between them, 28 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 4: just that things didn't make sense. 29 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: And fell off. 30 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: I won't give too many examples for privacy reasons, but 31 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 4: I will say that the two main events that rang 32 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 4: alarm bells in my head were the time that Hiram 33 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 4: insisted that I told him something that i'd actually told 34 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: Daphne instead. 35 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: The other one was when he showed me his family tree. 36 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: That he'd spent a long time working on, and Daphne 37 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: wasn't on there, but his brother was. When I asked 38 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: about it, he said that he didn't add her, But 39 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: upon deepening it further, it doesn't make sense because we're 40 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: from a community where family history is hella important, and 41 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: it's hard to believe that he'd trace his family back 42 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 4: by centuries upon centuries but not at his own living sister. 43 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: The more I thought about it, the less sense it made. 44 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: Things basically came to head when I asked about family 45 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 4: pictures and he said that he. 46 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Had none, and neither did his parents. 47 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 4: You liar, he yeah, No one has vissures, right, no 48 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: one's ever tato were vampire's right. Usually I wouldn't question 49 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: people's faily traditions or dynamics. But it felt dodgy that 50 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: she wasn't in his family tree, and now he couldn't 51 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: even show younger photos. He's previously explained that she wasn't 52 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: close to the family, which I understand because my sister 53 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 4: is estranged from the family too. But I still show 54 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 4: pictures of us as kids and talk about her a 55 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: lot despite being no contact. For me, that comes with 56 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 4: getting to know me, getting to know my family through 57 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 4: me too. Maybe that's just me, and that's okay. Regardless, 58 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 4: the family photo thing was the final straw for me, 59 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: and I couldn't see you way forward because I felt uneasy. 60 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 4: The day after that conversation, I dumped him over the phone. 61 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 4: I didn't want to flat out accuse him of lying, 62 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: especially without any definitive proof, so I explained that I 63 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: didn't feel like I could trust him, and it was 64 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 4: partly due to how he'd react to when I. 65 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: Would talk about his sister. 66 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: I also reflected a bit, and I said that I've 67 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: got some inner work to do and he deserved better 68 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: than me. The conversation lasted five minutes and was hecka awkward. 69 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: He was understandably upset. 70 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: Also, immediately after, Daphne messaged me saying that she heard 71 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 4: what happened and kind of went off on me. Oh oh, 72 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: I thought you weren't that close to the family though. Oh, 73 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: but she weren't really there. 74 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: How'd you know so fast? 75 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 5: Hmmm. 76 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 4: She accused me of not trusting her, which isn't exactly true. 77 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 4: I was more suspicious of her brother. She kind of 78 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 4: tried to claim that I clearly had hard feelings towards them. 79 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: I didn't. 80 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 4: Following the phone call, I kept getting a lot of 81 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: messages from Hiram and Daphne, mainly ranging from shifting the 82 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: blame on me, I'll take it, to giving me instructions 83 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: to even making it out. 84 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Like I was lying about how I felt. 85 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 4: I had to take them both off my do not 86 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: disturb exception list so that I wouldn't reply immediately. Both 87 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: Hiram and Daphne messaged me saying that he hadn't moved 88 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 4: for hours after the call. Obviously, this with the messages 89 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: from Hiram made me worried that he seriously wasn't taking 90 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: it well, so I found his coworker on Instagram and 91 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: messaged them to check in on him to make sure 92 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: he's okay since I he did space. The next day, 93 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: I woke up to him messaging me asking to not 94 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: message his friends, and I'll admit I. 95 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: Was a little pissed off. 96 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: I asked him what I should do instead and if 97 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: I had misstepped. I also told him that he'd made 98 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 4: me feel like a monster when I was just worried. 99 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: This was then followed by an apology and just more 100 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: awkward messages. 101 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: Here's where I risk being the a whole and one 102 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: of the last few messages, he'd asked if he could 103 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: call me again so that he could explain his side. 104 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: Usually I would hear people out, but after his behavior, 105 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 4: I don't know if I just want to end it 106 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 4: here for good or let him explain himself. My friends 107 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 4: agreed that the whole situation about Daphne was just extremely 108 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: off and we're worried that she may not be who 109 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: they say she is. I'm scared that if I let 110 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 4: him explain myself, there will be expectation for me to 111 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: take him back, and after seeing his reaction to this 112 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: whole thing, I don't think I can get. 113 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: Involved with him again. But also, if I don't hear 114 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: him out. I fear it may be unfair of me. 115 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 4: So if you've read this far, first of all, thank you, 116 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 4: and second of all, don't hesitate to leave your opinion. 117 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 4: I actually really need it. So would I be the 118 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 4: ahle if I don't hear him out? And there's a 119 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: quick edit. When I say I met Daphne, I meant 120 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: that I'd met her online on Instagram after removed our 121 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 4: conversation off the dating app, not in person. And there 122 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: is an update. But do you think op would be 123 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: the a hole? Okay, just to recap, of course. 124 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 6: So so far, Opie knows that Hiram has told her 125 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 6: that Daphne is his sister, refuses to show any proof 126 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 6: of this, refuses to let them really meet. Besides, like 127 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 6: her harassing op on Instagram. And now instead of trying 128 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 6: to like be like, yeah, this is my sister, here's 129 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 6: you know. I would love to have you guys come together, 130 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 6: blah blah blah, they're attacking Opie, which doesn't even make 131 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 6: sense in what he said because he said they weren't close, 132 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 6: but now they're close enough to attack his girlfriend. 133 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 1: I think that you could say. 134 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 6: Hey, if you want to, like, you know, meet and 135 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 6: talk like adults and explain with this this relationship with 136 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 6: Daphnie or whatever. Sure, but right now I really don't 137 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 6: appreciate you attacking me, making me feel crazy. 138 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: So yep, no exactly, it's just yeah, because I mean, 139 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: it doesn't seem like you has been dating for that long. 140 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: I think if you wanted to break up, you can 141 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: break up. You don't need to explain that. I don't 142 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: think it's going to be unfair. 143 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 7: I mean, well, I mean. 144 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 4: Maybe I guess it would be unfair if you don't 145 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: hear him out. I don't really totally see why. But 146 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: even if it was, I don't care. 147 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 7: Who cares. 148 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: I don't care. Just just yeah, move on. She don't 149 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: get harassing you. Yeah, they're they're getting his sister to 150 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 4: harass you. 151 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 7: Quote sister. 152 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: This is such like high school drama, just like all 153 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 4: of this texting of like me, and then it's just 154 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 4: just just walk away. You don't want to date him anymore, 155 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 4: so't you? You don't owe him literally anything? Nope, I 156 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: don't care. So there is an update though. So a 157 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 4: lot of people were telling me to just block, while 158 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: some people were curious but told me to proceed with caution. 159 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: I decided to message high Rum and ask him to 160 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 4: tell me what he expected if we were to call, 161 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 4: so that he could explain himself. I did this so 162 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: that I could decide from his response whether or not 163 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: the call would be a good idea. 164 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: That's that's a good way to go about it. Yeah, Surprisingly, 165 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: he changed his mind and said that he wasn't going 166 00:06:59,440 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: to call me. 167 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 4: I'll admit I got a little bit annoyed and asked 168 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: him what changed his response. 169 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. 170 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: Sorry, I got a little bit annoyed again. He then 171 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 4: gave me the same recycled message of I'll leave you alone. 172 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: I hope you find someone amazing. You're amazing, which I 173 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: wouldn't have minded, only he sent me that message multiple 174 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: times instead of actually leaving me beat. I promised him 175 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: that I wouldn't settle for less, and then I started 176 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: typing my message. I won't pacete what I said word 177 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 4: for word, but I'll try to sum it up essentially. 178 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: I told him that I had thought about it for 179 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: a day in a bit and decided that we should 180 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: go no contact. 181 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: I explained that while he may not have meant. 182 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: To, his messages came across as manipulative and guilt tripping. 183 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: For example, him saying that he hadn't moved for hours 184 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: after I dumped him, and yeah, that's that's such a lie. 185 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: That's just I haven't moved for hours. 186 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 6: I've been in the fetal position since she broke up 187 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 6: my one month talking Phace just broke up with me. 188 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: I haven't moved. 189 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: Look how much you ruin me. It's just like do I. 190 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: I've been stuck in the same position. 191 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 7: I couldn't even text you. 192 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: I just stupid. It was just. 193 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 4: Devastated and we're just no way to talk to someone 194 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: who broke up with you. I told him it felt 195 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 4: like he shut me out, even though I was willing 196 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: to give him a chance to explain. 197 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: Don't worry. 198 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: I wasn't planning on taking him back, and I told 199 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: him as much, because after seeing how he and Daphney 200 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: reacted to the breakup, I couldn't marry into such a 201 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: family if that's what we were dating for. I then 202 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: advised him to seek support and open up more, as 203 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 4: well as wishing him well. I probably should have blocked 204 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: him right after that message, but I didn't want to 205 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: risk having a longer conversation by a hopping platform, so 206 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: I let him reply. Hiram basically argued against my points 207 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 4: and apologized for coming across the wrong way. He also 208 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 4: brought up the thing about me messaging his coworker, which 209 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 4: two people brought up in the first post, and said 210 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: that it was a breach of privacy and he didn't. 211 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: Want her to worry about him. 212 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm the ahole here for messaging her, but I 213 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: told him that the only reason I did that was 214 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: because he literally told me that he couldn't move because 215 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: of me, and that I couldn't message his quote sister 216 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: because she was basically attacking me, and she also told 217 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 4: me the same thing. He also told me that he 218 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 4: wouldn't message my friends in this case, and I told 219 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: him I would have appreciated it if he did, because 220 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: it would have shown me that he cared. But to 221 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: each their own and that's okay. He then apologized for 222 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 4: Daphne's actions and claimed that he was going to have 223 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 4: a word with her, which I don't know how to 224 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 4: feel about, because why are you both mad at me? 225 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: Heyo? Why aren't you going to look at him? Had 226 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: on over there? 227 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 6: Why not? 228 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: Why did she do that? Why not? 229 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 4: But there is a little bit more to the story. 230 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 4: But yeah, girl, just blog him and it is not 231 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 4: worth it. 232 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 6: One month, I'd be like, oh, this is exhausting. I 233 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 6: did not want a relationship with this person long term. 234 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 6: Oh bye. Yeah, I don't know why you boys are 235 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 6: mad at me. I'm just gonna let you guys go 236 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 6: crazy on your own. Sorry, if you can't move, talk 237 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 6: to your freaking sister. 238 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 7: I guess I talk to you. 239 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, sorry, I'm talk to a therapist if you are. 240 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 6: So, if you're debilitated by you know what relationship ending, Yeah, 241 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 6: like that's a huge problem. Oh gosh, such high schoo 242 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 6: old type. 243 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: And it's annoying me. It's annoying. It's annoying me. 244 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 7: I'm up. 245 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: So I don't like it. But there is a little 246 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: bit more into the story. 247 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: So then Hiram told me that the reason he changed 248 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: his mind about calling me was because he panicked and 249 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 4: it was too awkward for him. 250 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: Try I understand. 251 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: I told him that he could have communicated that earlier 252 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: and maybe he should work on that. 253 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: I've struggled with the same thing. I know it's not easy. 254 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 4: I told him that I wasn't happy things ended this way, 255 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 4: but I messaged because it needed to be done. I 256 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: thanked him for everything, wished him well, and then blocked 257 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: him on one platform. 258 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 7: All platforms go all platforms. 259 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 6: Are you. 260 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: You silly goose? What's going on? 261 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: He then messaged me on two other platforms wants to 262 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: tell me that he wanted to be friends, but new 263 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: friendship was a two way relationship. 264 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: YadA, YadA, YadA, and then the. 265 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: Final message was to thank me before I blocked him 266 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: on that platform too. 267 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: I've blocked him. 268 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: Everywhere into the same for Daphne Lesson learned trust your gut. 269 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, good job. 270 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 7: He got there. Eventually got there. 271 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: That's all right, you got there eventually. 272 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 7: It's okay. 273 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: Maybe dragged on for a little longer than it needed to, 274 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 4: but it happens, is okay, it happened. I refuse to 275 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: be with my boyfriend after I got hospitalized because of 276 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 4: his laziness. 277 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, get away from him with I. 278 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 6: I twenty three female, recently got diagnosed with MDRTV. It's 279 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 6: a substance resistance form of tuberculosis. After having kind of 280 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 6: dismissed symptoms for a long time, I did not think 281 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 6: I had anything serious going on until it got progressively worse. 282 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 6: I collapsed during a trip abroad, and the hospital stay 283 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 6: was horrific. I was in and out of consciousness after 284 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 6: a while, dealing with organ failure, nerve pain, and constant nausea. 285 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 6: I had to stay in the hospital for more than 286 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 6: a month. I'm still recovering. It's going to take at 287 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 6: least a year to feel somewhat normal. By the way, 288 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 6: this comes from Commission Alarmed two nine three and if 289 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 6: you want to spend your own stories, go to the 290 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 6: r slash Okay Storytime severed it. This issue is my 291 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 6: boyfriend twenty seven mal Jake. We have been together for 292 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 6: about five years now. He was supportive while I was 293 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 6: in the hospital, messaging me daily and even visiting me. 294 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 7: While he could. 295 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 6: But now that I'm out, he keeps bringing up how 296 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 6: this whole thing made him realize life is short and 297 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 6: we should move in together. 298 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: Not that short. Take a minute, yeah, you've got time. 299 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 6: He's been pushing this idea since week one of my discharge. 300 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 6: I'm barely functional right now. I still have to take 301 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 6: medications daily, which comes with horrible side effects. My energy 302 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 6: is so low I can't even walk for long periods, 303 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 6: and I've had to move in with my mom because 304 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 6: I can't manage on my own yet. Jake says he'll 305 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 6: take care of everything if I move in with him, 306 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 6: but honestly, I don't trust it. He's kind, but he's 307 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 6: also notoriously lazy. He can barely keep his apartment clean. 308 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 6: I can't imagine adding my needs into that mess. I've 309 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 6: told him he needed to. 310 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: Deep clean the place, deep clutter, and keep it that way. 311 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 6: On top of that, he smokes occasionally a lot, usually 312 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 6: just when he's stressed out or with friends, but I 313 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 6: told him that he has to quit entirely. Besides, his 314 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 6: friends drop by constantly, often without warning. I can't deal 315 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 6: with loud gatherings or unexpected visits right now, so I 316 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 6: told them that has to stop too. I feel like 317 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 6: I'd end up taking care of him instead, which I 318 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 6: physically and emotionally. 319 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 7: Can't do right now. 320 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 6: When I told him I'm not ready to move in, 321 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 6: he got really defensive and accused me of not being 322 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 6: serious about a relationship at all. He said, I'm using 323 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 6: my illness as an excuse and thinks I'm being over 324 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 6: dramatic about the recovery process because I'm already out of 325 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 6: the hospital. 326 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so, really, as someone who's kind of a dork 327 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: and understands what tuberculosis and TV actually is and used 328 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: to do. Like we back to your Like, a medication 329 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: to drug resistant tuberculosis is one of the scariest things 330 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: you could get, because it's like that would just like always, 331 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 2: it would always win pretty. 332 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: Much like well, like you would get a dictators No, 333 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: it's like you would your lungest would stop working. 334 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, so he is like head it, battling it out. 335 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: It's areamely serious illness and yeah, you shouldn't be around 336 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: anyone who's probably. 337 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: For yeah, like your lungs are already messed up, dude, 338 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: and boundaries. Yeah. 339 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not like thinking about you and this experience 340 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: at all. It's like, oh, you just got out of 341 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: the hospital and you can't you're not fixed already. 342 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: The crazy thing is that he was like your life changing. 343 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 7: Your near experience made me realize that life is short. 344 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 6: And then she's like, ah, I would rather my life 345 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 6: be a little bit longer, and he's. 346 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 7: Like what the heck? 347 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, wow, if you care so much about uh, like, 348 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: it's either it's either me or your tuberculosis. 349 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, you got it. 350 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: Crazy. 351 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 6: Oh and something I did not mention. He once said, well, 352 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 6: you should be glad it's not yikes. You should be 353 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 6: glad that I didn't deck you. His dad got diagnosed 354 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 6: earlier this year. But it is a dumb comparison, in 355 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 6: my opinion. I tried to explain how dangerous it is 356 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 6: for me to skip even one dose of my medication 357 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 6: and now I'm struggling with basic daily tasks, but he 358 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 6: just got defensive and said something like, I've done have 359 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 6: right thing for you these past few months, and it 360 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 6: feels like you don't even appreciate that. I told him 361 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 6: that just because he visited me in the hospital, which 362 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 6: I actually think is the bare minimum of what a 363 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 6: boyfriend should do, doesn't mean he's ready to be my caretaker. 364 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 6: And then I don't need another burden in my life 365 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 6: right now. Now that I think about this, maybe that 366 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 6: was a bit harsh of me. 367 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 7: To say, but he needs to hear it. 368 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, since then, he's been distant. 369 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 6: I know he loves me and wants to help, and 370 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 6: I wonder if I'm being too defensive or if I 371 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 6: should try harder to meet him halfway. A part of 372 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 6: me also feels like he's making this all about himself. 373 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 6: When I'm the one who almost passed away. He's been 374 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 6: telling friends I'm ungrateful for everything he did while I 375 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 6: was sick, and I'm just trying to find an excuse 376 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 6: not to move in with him. They're split something he's 377 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 6: being pushy, but others think I should give him a 378 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 6: chance to prove he can step up. He has already 379 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 6: wanted to move in with me even before I got sick, 380 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 6: but then I thought I was too young. 381 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 7: I think maybe that is why he's like this. Am 382 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 7: I the ale for. 383 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 6: Refusing to move in with him unless he makes a 384 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 6: ton of changes, even though he's been really supportive in 385 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 6: other ways while I first got sick. I'd love some responses. 386 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: Edit. 387 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 6: I have talked to him this morning, and we made 388 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 6: the agreement to first try it for a week to 389 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 6: see if he can keep his promises to me. My 390 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 6: mom is helping me pack some of my stuff so 391 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 6: I can go there tomorrow morning. I really want to 392 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 6: try and make this work. 393 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: I know I sounded negative about him, but I think 394 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: part of my problem is also just that I do 395 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 4: not like feeling like a burden to him. He does 396 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: live two hours away from where my mom lives, but 397 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 4: if anything happens, I want to go back to her place. 398 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: He will just come and pick me up. I'll keep 399 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 4: you updated, and there is an update. 400 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: There is an update. I do think this is a 401 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: good test, you know, to do. 402 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 6: I don't think that he is going it, like based 403 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 6: off everything that he's said before. I don't think he's 404 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 6: going to you know, rise to the occasion. But I 405 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 6: think it's a good test for op to be like 406 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 6: I tried everything. 407 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it could be a good test. 408 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: It kind of still feels like she doesn't want to 409 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: move in though, Like she doesn't. Yeah, so I feel like, like, 410 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: don't let any of you know doing that just because 411 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: he wants it. 412 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 413 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 7: There's an update. This did not take long. I messed up. 414 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 6: I just woke up about twenty minutes ago, felt a 415 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 6: bit unwell, had to throw up. No big deal, this 416 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 6: happens sometimes after one of my medications. I looked around 417 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 6: and didn't see my boyfriend in the kitchen or living room. 418 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 6: It's a web bendroom apartment, so not much to search. Okay, 419 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 6: he's probably on the toilet. I've waited for ten minutes 420 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 6: and he does not come out. I call his name. 421 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 6: He doesn't respond. I go and check and he's not 422 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 6: on the toilet. Okay, maybe just take it out the trash. 423 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 6: I look the trash can. It's not emptied. I call 424 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 6: him on his phone and he doesn't pick up, but 425 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 6: I don't hear his ringtone anywhere in the apartment. I 426 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 6: called him a second time and he says he's back 427 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 6: in five minutes from where. Apparently he had to deliver 428 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 6: a key to his workplace or else they couldn't open. 429 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 6: My boyfriend was the last one to close last week 430 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 6: and normally the first to open on Monday. He didn't 431 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 6: think about how he's still at the key at home. 432 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 6: The other cowork could not leave the workplace as he 433 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 6: does not have a car and came by bus, so, 434 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 6: according to my boyfriend, yet to go there himself and 435 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 6: give it to him. I had no idea how to 436 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 6: even feel about this. It effing scares me that he 437 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 6: did not tell me he didn't want me to wake up, 438 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 6: and it is less than a ten minutes each way, 439 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 6: but I didn't know he left me alone. If it 440 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 6: wasn't for all the comments I have gotten on my 441 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 6: post here, I would have said I'm overreacting and he 442 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 6: meant well, but I don't like them. Here is a 443 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 6: copy and paste of some stuff I wrote my notes yesterday, 444 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 6: positives not the pros and gone list. 445 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: Oh oh, it's so nice. 446 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 6: To be with him. We have the same sense of humor. 447 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 6: It's just different being with him than being at my parents. 448 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 6: My mom is pretty stern and serious. I like the 449 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 6: physical aspects, pressing, hugging, things like that. 450 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 7: My mom also does not really hug or tell me 451 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 7: she loves me. 452 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 4: She shows love more in a practical way. He had 453 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: an air purifier and humidifier that he bought, which I 454 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 4: think is really considerate. He got free from work, he 455 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 4: reminded me of my medication and gave them to me 456 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 4: on said times. 457 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 6: The apartment looks cleaner than I have ever seen it. 458 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 6: He makes sure I eat enough and I don't have 459 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 6: to do anything, but he seems more irritated and still 460 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 6: not completely understanding some things he says are also more 461 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 6: easily rubbing me the wrong way. After reading the comments 462 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 6: people left, like, for example, that I'm sleeping too much 463 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 6: during the day, so that's why I cannot sleep at 464 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 6: night and I should stop doing that. But I am 465 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 6: just exhausted regardless of the time of day, and also 466 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 6: my nerve pain is worse at night. He still smokes 467 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 6: on the balcony and not inside, but still he was 468 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 6: super apologetic when I said that I didn't want that either. 469 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 6: He claimed he didn't know. He wouldn't do it again. 470 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 6: He'll buy nicotine strips tomorrow. I did not even know 471 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 6: he now actually smokes that much to need something like that. 472 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 6: He didn't about two months ago. I found out why 473 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 6: he wanted this in the first place, besides wanting to 474 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 6: be with me and moving forward in a relationship, not 475 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 6: spicy sleep or some weird caretaking fantasy, but money. I 476 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 6: could stop the lease on my place, which I probably 477 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 6: will do anyway, I'm not going there anywhere soon and 478 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 6: split his bills like. 479 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: That stucks, That sucks. 480 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 7: He's like, yeah, no, I want we have to take 481 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 7: the step in our relationship. And also you have to 482 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 7: help me pay for this. 483 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why. 484 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 7: That's actually the reason. Right. 485 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: Oh, oh my gosh, that's crazy, mind you. 486 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 6: I don't even earn that much as a sports coach, 487 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 6: and especially not now where I'm not able to. 488 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 7: I think I shouldn't have done this, and I. 489 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 4: Will leave, get out of it out of there, someone 490 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 4: like if you have these issues and like have to 491 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 4: go to the hospital and stuff like that. I mean, 492 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: first of all, money, like you need money to go 493 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 4: towards that. But then second of all too, like you 494 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 4: your partner needs to be able to take care of 495 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: you when you need it, because like you need it here. 496 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 6: And you told him, you said, hey, I don't like 497 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 6: want you to have to do all of this. 498 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 7: It's gotta be a lot of work. 499 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, gave him all of you laid everything out, you said, 500 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 6: this is what I need, right, are you up to that? 501 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: If you're not totally fine exactly, we don't have to 502 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 4: move that. And it doesn't feel like. 503 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 7: He wants that. 504 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: It's a lot, It's a lot, yeah, but you gotta be. 505 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: Realized that he's not up to it exactly, instead of 506 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: just diminishing what you need exactly. 507 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 6: Edit formatting in time. It did not take five minutes 508 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 6: to get back. He got stuck in traffic. It was 509 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 6: about twenty minutes from the time I have called him there. 510 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 6: I already waited twenty minutes, and I have no way 511 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 6: of knowing how long before I woke up that he 512 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 6: left pals. My mom is mad at me for even 513 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 6: considering going to him. My boyfriend does not see the 514 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 6: problem and is mad. 515 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 7: I called my mom. 516 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I should have listened to all of you. Edit 517 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 6: to why was I discharged in this condition? I was 518 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 6: discharged a bit earlier than they would have done normally, 519 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 6: just until I was not contagious with TV anymore and 520 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 6: stabilized due to health insurance issues and me being in 521 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 6: a hospital abroad instead of in my home country. There 522 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 6: being someone present with me twenty four to seven, at 523 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 6: least for the first few weeks, was a condition they 524 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 6: set to make the discharge possible. So this isn't just 525 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 6: like he was gone. 526 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 7: It's fine. 527 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: Whatever she needed. She probally told them I need someone 528 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 6: there twenty four seven. If you were not up for that, 529 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 6: I'll stay. 530 00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 7: With my mom. That's fine. 531 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah. Come on, he's not up for 532 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 4: the town. 533 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 7: Just not fot him. 534 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 4: My mother in law said, we ruined Christmas just because 535 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 4: we put the kids first. 536 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: You ruined Christmas. 537 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 7: My way. 538 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: This is from the r slash Okay Storytime Suppers. This 539 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: is directly submitted to us. 540 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 4: Heck, yeah, let's go so so mackstory I twenty seven 541 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 4: female and married to my best friend twenty eight female. 542 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 4: Let's call her Taylor for three years now, but I 543 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: have been together for seven years total. Taylor's mom and dad, 544 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: mainly Mom are Bible thumpers. Dad really isn't, even though 545 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 4: he was a pastor, but he did a lot of 546 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: sinning in his marriage if you know what I mean, 547 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 4: yanks anyway, that's hypercritical. Yeah, anyway, mother in law isn't 548 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 4: a fan of the relationship because Taylor is going to 549 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: be the heck blah blah blah. My family is Catholic 550 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 4: and called me like a lot of cat and we 551 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: laughed a lot when I came. 552 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: Out legoltacat is also better than what they said. Oh totally. 553 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: It sounds like just like sounds better anyway. 554 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: All this will kind of tie together, I think with 555 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: the story, and sorry if it doesn't, I guess. By 556 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: the way, this comes from Okay Nobody six' three nine 557 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: seven and if you want to submit your own, stories 558 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 4: go to the art Slash okay Story, Time, sepreddit so and. 559 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 4: Who taylor has two, siblings a brother we will Call 560 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: sean's thirty six, male married To, katie forty eight. Female 561 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 4: they have three kids. Together all in their early, teens 562 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: And katie has two kinds. 563 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: From two previous. 564 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 4: Marriages she's also a pill head and thinks that we 565 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 4: are all, oblivious acting like she stopped forever. Ago taylor 566 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 4: also has a, Sister jenna thirty four, female married To 567 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 4: eddie thirty six. Male they have four, kids ranging from 568 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: twelve to. ONE i was the first girl my wife 569 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 4: brought home and introduced as her. 570 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: Girlfriend she felt comfortable BECAUSE i was. 571 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 4: COMFORTABLE i have a take no bs kind of, attitude 572 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: just like the rest of my. Family we tend to 573 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 4: hash everything out right when it, happens and if we 574 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 4: get past, it, great but we're quick to cut people. Off, 575 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 4: normally everyone was okay with. Me that's as it can 576 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: be meeting someone new in these, situations except for sister 577 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: in Law. Katie she was overly nice and basically already 578 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 4: trying to plan our. Future we had only been together 579 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 4: about a month when we decided to meet family and 580 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 4: make it. Official so in my, HEAD i shrugged her 581 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: off as a weirdo and is. Whatever my wife told 582 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 4: me to basically ignore or stay away from her because 583 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 4: she's nothing but. 584 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: DRAMA i have a great relationship. 585 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 4: With all of her, children even the ones from previous, 586 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 4: marriages two, girls one twenty five and the other. Twenty 587 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 4: for the twenty year, OLD i did a lot for, 588 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: her did her hair and makeup for every, dance took 589 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: her and picture, up gave her advice when she needed, 590 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 4: it taught her how. 591 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: To use a. 592 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: Tampon her mom was too scared to use, them and 593 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 4: she came to me when she lost her. VIRGINITY i 594 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 4: mean literally anything and. Everything katie got very. JEALOUS i 595 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: even started getting close with My bible thumper mother in, 596 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 4: law and that was. Big katie started making comments to 597 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: mother in law about HOW i was the new. 598 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: Favorite she started telling her. 599 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 4: Daughter that she could do better than me at hair and, 600 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 4: makeup and she definitely. Cannot she started trying to talk 601 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 4: about my wife's ex a. Lot my brother in law 602 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 4: and sister in law knew THE, x but not mother 603 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 4: or father in. Law the three younger children call me 604 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: their second mom because we get them a, lot AND 605 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: i really do love them as my. Own we try 606 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 4: to treat them to things that they don't get at 607 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 4: home when we have them on weekends or weeks in the. 608 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 4: SUMMER a few examples ice cream dates home cooked, meals 609 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 4: giving them space and safe conversations so they can get 610 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 4: some emotions. Out they get to put on games in 611 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: their rooms and basically eat ramen all. Day and they 612 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 4: told me. This so a few big incidents, happened And 613 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 4: i'm at a. Crossroads SHOULD i cut off my sister 614 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 4: in Law katie and brother in Law sean and risk 615 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 4: not seeing the kids. ANYMORE i feel Like i'm punishing 616 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 4: them for something that they have nothing to do. With 617 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 4: and this is promoted to oh and she's promoted to 618 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: fiance at this point in the. 619 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: Story pass. 620 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 4: Forward so my sister in law started a, rumor BUT 621 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 4: i was cheating on my wife with a girl at. 622 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 4: Work she's my friend AND i feel bad for saying, 623 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: this but, yuck definitely not my. 624 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: Tie funny, yikes she. WAS i don't know you had 625 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: to say, yuck not My you just said she's not my. 626 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 4: T i don't have to be, like, oh, yuck, right personally, 627 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: thing all my friends are, gorgeous, yeah, exactly doesn't Mean 628 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: i'm attracted to. 629 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 7: Them, right don't have to say. 630 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 4: Yuck? Yuck she, was and had just come out to 631 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: everyone and was proud of. It, anyway she told my 632 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: brother in law that she THOUGHT i was sleeping with 633 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: my friend because she just came, Out oh my, god 634 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 4: AND i was her only. Friend that must be why 635 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 4: that has been. Prolong brother in law texted my wife 636 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: and basically was calling her every name in the book 637 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 4: because she basically said that she believes me over his 638 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: wife and that she didn't know why he cared so 639 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 4: much because him and his wife cheats so, much like 640 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: it's a game at this point of who has? 641 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 6: More, Y, wow, dang they're doing this straight version where 642 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 6: you sleep with as many. People, yeah we had to 643 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 6: talk early about, cheating and she knows exactly HOW i 644 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 6: feel about. IT i told her from the rip to 645 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 6: please never cheat AND i would always let her go 646 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 6: and to be honest with. Me that's kind of crazy to, 647 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 6: me like LIKE i understand where you're coming from a 648 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 6: pee of, like, yeah let's have conversations, stuff but just 649 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 6: like the fact that you have to have a conversation 650 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 6: and be like this is HOW i don't feel good about, cheating, RIGHT. 651 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 7: I, KNOW i don't like. 652 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 6: IT i wonder if it came up of like well 653 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 6: they had Previous, yeah, no, NO i think it's it 654 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 6: makes sense BYOP i just thought that was. 655 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 7: Funny it's, funny like it makes. Sense wyope's right to 656 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 7: have a. 657 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: Conversation please don't cheat on. You just just to be, 658 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: CLEAR i wouldn't like. 659 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 7: IT i would be upset by. 660 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 4: That i'd rather you tell me you don't want me 661 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 4: anymore than to betray me like. That we cut them 662 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: off for three months and my mother in, law father in, 663 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 4: law sister in, law and brother in law all got THE. 664 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: Vid they live in my. 665 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 4: Mother in law's basement and share a room with, them 666 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 4: and they're three. Kids we got asked by mother in 667 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 4: law while she's the hospital on behalf of sister in Law, 668 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 4: katie if we would take the kids because they weren't 669 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 4: being taken care of because they just didn't have the 670 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 4: energy with being. 671 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: Sick, anyways we said. 672 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: Yes we had them for two or three, weeks and 673 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 4: we both had to quarantine for two weeks from work 674 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: from being. Exposed we didn't. Mind we loved the kids 675 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 4: and they were my first. Priority after they got, better 676 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 4: sister in law thanked us and acted like it had 677 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 4: all blown. OVER i told her for a conversation and 678 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 4: told her That i'll let it go this, time but 679 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 4: to cut the. Crap, basically she was, smiley happy and 680 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: fake her normal. 681 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: Bs but whatever uh and now now hope he is 682 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: promoted to wife at some point. 683 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 4: Here. Nice she told my mother in law THAT i 684 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 4: was the devil and THAT i was ruining the. 685 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: Family. Wow she told my. 686 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: Wife i've found out a year later that she picked 687 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 4: the wrong, brother meaning my, wife because she dresses better 688 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 4: and her cologne smells, good and overall she takes care 689 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 4: of her. Appearance she gets her fades every two, weeks gets, 690 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 4: waxed just. 691 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 1: Overall she definitely gives Off. 692 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 4: Daddy she told her kids THAT i don't love them. 693 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: Anymore what her oldest has completely cut her. 694 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 4: Off and we have a great relationship with her daughter 695 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: and grandkids because we had her grandkids for a week 696 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 4: to give her daughter and her fiance a well deserved. 697 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: Break she's done a lot of, crap naming a. Few 698 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 4: i've had a few choice words with mother in law. 699 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: Too her and my sister in Law kati love to 700 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 4: hate each other in. Gossip mother in law calls my 701 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 4: wife to which about her siblings and their dad her, 702 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: husband and does the same with brother in law's wife 703 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 4: and my wife's other Sister, jenna mother in, law likes 704 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 4: to say hurtful things when she doesn't get her. Way 705 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 4: this past, year my wife got a promotion and had 706 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 4: to be at work until three the night, before so 707 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 4: we couldn't show up To, christmas but could plan a 708 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 4: day to bring them their gifts from us along with 709 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 4: the other. Adults she was okay until she found out 710 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: that we planned a weekend at the beginning Of december 711 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 4: to get all seven of our young nieces and nephews 712 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: for a night to watch them open The christmas presents 713 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 4: that we got them and spend a little time with the. 714 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: Kiddos she told my wife and said that we were 715 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 4: taking her moment away from watching them open the gifts 716 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: from us and ruining Her. 717 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: Christmas how does that even mean that you're you're what 718 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: do you mean you Had? Christmas you ruined? 719 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: It you're just watching them open gifts are such a normal. 720 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: Thing what do you mean you're taking your moment? Away 721 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: it's giving you the. 722 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: Moment that's, Insane my wife told, me AND i put 723 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 4: her mom and dad in a group chat and basically 724 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 4: told her that she made her daughter cry AND i. 725 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: Hope that she was proud of. 726 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 4: Herself we still went the, weekend we planned to give 727 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 4: them their gifts after all of, this AND i was still. 728 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: Fuman so as soon as we. 729 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 4: Walked, IN i basically just told her she won't ever 730 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 4: speak to my wife like that, again because next TIME 731 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: i won't be as. 732 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 7: Nice don't be. 733 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 4: Nice, yeah and long story short on me flipping out 734 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 4: because her other two kids suck and my wife is 735 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 4: the only one who shows up. 736 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: Then they need something or just want to vent as AM. 737 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: I she tried to, argue and then my tone got 738 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 4: meaner and she just ended with an, okay, yeah she 739 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 4: won't do it. Again, yeah, okay put her in her. 740 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 4: Plate her husband knows better than to mess with. Me 741 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 4: i've told him what's up, too and it didn't even 742 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 4: try to defend his. 743 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: Wife it's a little bit more to the. Story but 744 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: do you have any final thoughts on? 745 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 4: This? 746 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, YEAH i just think it's, like if they're gonna 747 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,239 Speaker 6: keep making, problems set your, boundaries tell them straight and be, Like, 748 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 6: Okay i'm just stop blaming me for your kids getting. 749 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: Upset, yeah stop. 750 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 7: It stop telling your kids that. Lies. 751 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 4: Right it's Like i'm not even doing anything wrongs that 752 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 4: you're obsessed with, me right, stop that's so. Crazy like 753 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: she's making up the stories about, cheating, yeah and then 754 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 4: like just not using, it like not even just using, 755 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 4: them but like asking them for help for the kids and, 756 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 4: stuff which is so nice of them to do to 757 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 4: help and, like and then she's just spewing all these 758 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 4: lies and and just crap it on. 759 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 7: Them. 760 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: Man SO i don't, KNOW i really want to say. 761 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 4: Fmol and my wife has grown a backbone and started 762 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 4: standing up for, herself so she's getting there. Too but 763 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: the kids art breaks thinking about never seeing them until 764 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 4: they turn. Eighteen she tried to mind f them so hard, 765 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 4: now and the youngest is her little. 766 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: Spy and not a good. 767 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 4: ONE i won't, dang she told me Her she told 768 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: me her mom asked her to listen IF i talk 769 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 4: bad about, her AND i never do to her. KIDS 770 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 4: i think kids need out of grown folk. Business but 771 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 4: she uses her kid as on and involves. Them BUT 772 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: i know IF i got them all, off we wouldn't 773 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 4: get the. Kids and they still have four to eight 774 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 4: more years until they turn eighteen between the three of, 775 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 4: them and that's a long time with a self absorbed 776 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 4: person telling you lies about someone you won't see anymore 777 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: as a. Kid, yeah because even if they did turn, 778 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 4: eighteen like they probably wouldn't want to Be yeah yeah 779 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 4: if they've been you, know poisoned or you've been. Poisoned, yeah, yeah. 780 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 4: Dang any questions are. Welcomed sorry if you're. Confused my 781 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 4: wife calls me a betty bad. Butt but something about 782 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 4: these three kids pulls at my. HEARTSTRINGS i had a crappy, 783 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 4: childhood SO i think it's an extra big soft spot 784 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 4: for the. Situation advice needed and all comments are, appreciated thank. 785 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 6: YOU i, MEAN i don't think you have to cut 786 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 6: her off if you really want to be these kids in, 787 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 6: LIFE i don't think you have to necessarily cut her off. 788 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 7: Completely. 789 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: YEAH i think it's just setting. 790 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 6: Boundaries and every time you hear she says something, wild you're, like, 791 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 6: yeah not, Sure i'm fly stop? 792 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: Lying yeah what was your? 793 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 5: Mean? 794 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: Boys? Right AND i wonder if like a conversation can 795 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: be held of just like why why are you doing? 796 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: This like DID i actually do LIKE i? Thought i've 797 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: like treated you? WELL i THOUGHT i like you done 798 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: a good job of being there for. You and what's going? 799 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 7: On? Yeah like? 800 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: Why, yeah what what's going, on she's. 801 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 4: Just jealous and, dasty, yeah feeling and scared about how 802 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 4: she takes care of her, kids that the love of 803 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 4: her kids are possibly going off to. 804 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: Another but just, like enjoy that you have someone that 805 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: will take care of the. 806 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 7: Kids and that your kids like, like come on, literally come, On. 807 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: Hey It's. Sam we're gonna get back to these. Stories 808 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: but here's three bits of ads from our sponsors that 809 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: keep the show. 810 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 5: ALIVE i just got engaged to my, fiance but my 811 00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 5: family is not. 812 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: Happy boo that entire, Family boo. 813 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 5: THEM i just got engaged last week To frank and 814 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 5: we have been super excited and. 815 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: Happy some. Backstory we both live In. 816 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 5: Canada frank's entire family both sides are here as, well 817 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 5: but aside from my, mother my dad passed away a 818 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 5: couple years. Ago all of my relatives still live in 819 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 5: the country my family immigrated. From by the, way this 820 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 5: comes from engage excitement and if you want to spit 821 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 5: your own, stories go to the r slash okay storytime. 822 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 5: Subreddit i've met all his relatives and am quite close with. 823 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 5: Them they are all super. NICE a smattering of relatives 824 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 5: from both sides of my family have Met frank when 825 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 5: they've come to visit and when they were here for 826 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 5: my father's. Funeral there is a bit of a language 827 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 5: barrier with them For, frank but he's always been polite and. Kind, 828 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 5: luckily With easter, weekend we were able to tell most 829 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 5: of our families who live In canada in person before posting. 830 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 5: Online we got a really warm reaction from his parents 831 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 5: as well as both sides of his. Family it was 832 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 5: all really. Lovely before posting on social, MEDIA i messaged 833 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 5: my overseas relatives through group chats with the news and 834 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 5: a picture of us smiling together was with some champagne 835 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 5: and the. 836 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: Ring from my paternal, relatives. 837 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 5: There was a, big happy slew of congratulations and well, 838 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 5: wishes and WHEN i later posted On, facebook a few 839 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 5: of them commented again with happy. 840 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: Wishes before my dad. 841 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 5: Passed, away he spent a lot of time in the 842 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 5: hospital and he had made a point of saying That 843 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 5: frank should be allowed to come visit him as one 844 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 5: of our, own even when my dad didn't really want visitors. 845 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 5: Anymore frank hates, hospitals but he spent a lot of 846 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 5: time visiting my. Dad seeing that my paternal relatives were 847 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 5: accepting A frank was a really nice reminder of how 848 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 5: loving my dad was and how EXCITED i think he 849 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 5: would have been for. 850 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: Us but here's the. 851 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 5: Issue the REACTION i got from most of my maternal, 852 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 5: relatives including my, mother really surprised and disturbed. Me we 853 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 5: saw her For Easter monday and excitedly announced it to. 854 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 5: Her she seemed almost suspicious and asked what our plans 855 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 5: were for the, future before giving two kind of robotic 856 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 5: handshakes and saying. 857 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: Congratulations we got marriage. Handshakes she got marriage handshakes from her. 858 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 5: Mother that's a bad. Sign then later she sat us 859 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 5: down and asked how this would affect our educational. Futures 860 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 5: she even pulled me aside to talk to me about 861 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 5: life insurance and, wills saying that WHOEVER i, marry she 862 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 5: wants to ensure a good life for me and her future, 863 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 5: grandchildren and not any step. Grandchildren she outright warned against 864 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 5: leaving money To frank or sharing my resources with, him 865 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 5: because what if you pass away and he remarries and 866 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 5: has kids with the new, Wife she'll spend all the 867 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 5: money and he won't care about your. Kids this isn't 868 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 5: the first time she has basically coached me to assume, 869 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 5: everyone including my future, husband is out to get, me 870 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 5: and THAT i can't trust anyone except blood. FAMILY i 871 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 5: find it ridiculous and really really. DEPRESSING i told, her 872 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 5: in no one certain, terms THAT i knew exactly WHO 873 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 5: i was going to, marry so she can lay off 874 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 5: the hypothetical WHOEVER i marry, talk and furthermore that he 875 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 5: wasn't the type of person who would have bandon our 876 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 5: children just Because i'm passed. Away she insisted she was 877 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 5: giving practical and realistic. 878 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: Advice SO i just changed the. 879 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,479 Speaker 5: Subject in the group chat for my maternal, relatives only 880 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 5: three of them have. Responded there are nine people total 881 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 5: in the, chat including. Me one, Cousin, larry sent a shocked, 882 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 5: emoji and an aunt, said most, importantly don't let it 883 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 5: affect your. STUDIES i wasn't sure how to even respond to, 884 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 5: that SO i just sent back With frank's, support everything 885 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 5: has been better in my, life including my. 886 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: Studies larry just, said oh. 887 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 5: REALLY i stopped responding after, that AS i found the 888 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 5: reactions really bizarre and. Hurtful another of my, Cousins dan 889 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 5: piped up to say That frank's a lucky guy and congratulated, 890 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 5: us which was nice AND i thanked. Him but after 891 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 5: that it's been radio silence for a whole. Day i've 892 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 5: Messaged dan privately to ask IF i wrote or said something, 893 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 5: wrong THOUGH i haven't heard back yet. 894 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: Update dan has no. 895 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 5: IDEA i am super grateful for all the positive reactions 896 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 5: we have, gotten both From frank's family and from my paternal, 897 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 5: relatives as well as from our friends and, community BUT 898 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 5: i can't help but feel really shaken by my mom's 899 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 5: reaction and the response of my maternal. RELATIVES i don't 900 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,439 Speaker 5: understand the fixation on my, studies aside from the fact 901 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 5: That i've already GRADUATED uni and have been actively applying 902 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 5: to medical, schools WHICH i hear back about in a few, 903 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 5: weeks which me luck while working full. Time i've never 904 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 5: been the type to engender worry about my. Academics MY 905 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 5: gpa has always been around to thirty, nine And frank 906 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 5: is literally the most supportive person when it comes to my. 907 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 5: Schooling he took care of me during my undergrad, thesis 908 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 5: helped proofread my medical, applications and has always celebrated my. 909 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 5: Successes he takes great care of me and uplifts me so. 910 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: MUCH i don't. 911 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 5: KNOW i GUESS i WISH i knew why they were 912 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 5: reacting like. This i'm just floored and have no idea 913 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 5: how to proceed with them being so weirdly hostile towards my. 914 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 5: ENGAGEMENT i really thought they'd be, excited because, well that's 915 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 5: how people generally. 916 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: React what DO i do you move on without these? 917 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 2: PEOPLE i know it's really easy to just be, like 918 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: don't care from an outside, perspective but it's, like truly, 919 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 2: like if these people just can't be like happy for 920 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: you and excited you're getting, married forget them in the context. 921 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: Of your engagement or your wedding or your. Marriage forget. 922 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: Them who? Cares if you really want them to that. 923 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 5: Bad the next thing you do is you send them 924 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 5: an invite to the, wedding and if they say, no 925 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 5: they say, no you don't even need to do. 926 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: THAT i have a. 927 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 2: Sneaking it's, like there's there's a classiest thing going on. 928 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 2: Here there's some kind of othering happening to your husband 929 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: by this whole side of your. Family, YEAH i gotta 930 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 2: assume it like came down the chain of command from 931 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 2: like your mom and that AND edsad just infected. 932 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: Everybody we have an. 933 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 5: Update hey, EVERYONE i posted my original issue a little while. 934 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 5: Ago long story, SHORT i got, engaged and WHEN i 935 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 5: announced it to my mom and maternal, RELATIVES i got 936 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 5: a really cold. RECEPTION i posted basically BECAUSE i didn't 937 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 5: really know how to process. 938 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: It i'm still kind of in. 939 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 5: Disbelief BUT i actually had a chance to chat with 940 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 5: one of my maternal. 941 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: AUNTS i thought she called me and called her. 942 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 5: Back turns out it was a butt, Dial but SINCE 943 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 5: i had her on the, LINE i decided to ask 944 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 5: what her perspective. WAS i won't really hush out the 945 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 5: details of the, conversation but essentially it seems to boil 946 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 5: down to a few. Things, first because of the distance 947 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 5: and language, barrier none of them really Know frank very, 948 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 5: well so mostly they are going off what they're told about. 949 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 5: Him it seems that my mom has been talking about 950 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 5: him in unflattering ways and just overall painting him as 951 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 5: not good. 952 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: Enough, yeah why are we doing? 953 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 5: That? 954 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 7: Mom why are we? 955 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 5: Do he? Said one weird thing that they seem to 956 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 5: have fixated on is that he doesn't have a bold driver's. 957 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 5: LICENSE i don't. EITHER i have a new driver's, license 958 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 5: and he has a. Learner's neither of us have a, 959 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 5: car and public transit is decent enough in our, city 960 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 5: so getting a full license hasn't really been a top. 961 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 5: Priority it seems, though that between that and him not 962 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 5: being in the workforce full time yet because. 963 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: You, know still in. 964 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 5: School even though they've been told about his part time, 965 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 5: job my mom doesn't think very highly of his ability 966 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 5: to provide and, disapproves despite saying to my face that 967 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 5: she will just love WHOEVER i. Love they see only 968 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 5: my mom's disapproval and nothing of how hard he, works 969 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 5: how sweet he, is how creative. Funny so IF i 970 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 5: am to change their, MINDS i am already starting on 971 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 5: the back foot and running damage. Control, second they seem 972 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 5: to Think i'm still a. Baby my aunt was, saying 973 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 5: How i'm still young at? ALL i pointed out THAT 974 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 5: i was turning twenty five this year on the young 975 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 5: end for an, Engagement, sure but by no means a. 976 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 5: Child she actually did a double take when she realized, That, 977 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 5: yeah but. 978 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: Like, also twenty five is still. Young twenty five is still. 979 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 5: Young BUT i have also had this realization of talking 980 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 5: to CAUSE i just turned twenty five of my cousins 981 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 5: and then being, like you're you're, Twenty, no you're, eighteen, 982 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 5: Right And i'm, like, No. 983 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,959 Speaker 1: I've been an adult for a. While, yeah it's probably 984 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: more of like a it's just been a. While it's 985 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: been a lot of, distance and they're, like, oh you're. 986 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 2: Right. 987 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 5: Yeah she also asked about a lot of, things what 988 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 5: we plan for the, future if we've talked about having, 989 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 5: kids what sort of lifestyle we. Want basic butt crap 990 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 5: that anyone with half a brain a foresight would talk 991 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 5: about before an. 992 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: Engagement they. Don't, yeah they just don't know that. Though, 993 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 1: yeah they're excited to hear. 994 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 5: IT i obviously had answers for all the things she, 995 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 5: asked and she almost seems surprised THAT i never once 996 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 5: had to say we've never talked about that OR i don't. 997 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 5: Know she ended up saying That i'm a grown person 998 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 5: who can make her own decisions and that she just 999 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 5: wishes me. Well we also talked about my mom a. 1000 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 5: Bit we kind of ended the conversation. There it's been 1001 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 5: a few days, now and at the end of it, 1002 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 5: ALL i Think i'm just angry and. SAD i know 1003 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 5: Neither frank NOR i are at our life goals, yet 1004 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 5: and we still have plenty of growing to. Do BUT 1005 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 5: i just feel super disrespected and. Underestimated i'm pissed that 1006 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 5: my mom would claim to just want me to be 1007 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 5: happy and that she'd love WHOEVER i, love and then 1008 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 5: turn around and talk crap about the MAN i love 1009 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 5: and who has been an incredible supportive partner to. Me 1010 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 5: she keeps saying that she wants a better relationship with, 1011 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 5: me but, Honestly i'm starting to see that she. Doesn't not, 1012 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 5: really she wants a better relationship with who she wants 1013 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 5: me to, be not WHO i actually. 1014 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: Am, yeah oh p said, It Oh pie said. It 1015 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: Said the thing guys that she just wants. You she 1016 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: wants to just mold, you inform me like a little 1017 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 1: ball of. Clay but you are a. 1018 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 5: Human but we have an, Update and to be, FAIR 1019 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 5: i GUESS i feel the same. WAY i would love 1020 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 5: a better relationship with my mom if my mom were 1021 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 5: more genuinely supportive and less judgmental and didn't think her 1022 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 5: perspective is the objective truth quite so. Much, Whatever i'm 1023 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 5: still going to get married And i'm super happy about. That, 1024 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 5: yeah my future husband is a swell guy who makes 1025 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 5: me really. 1026 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: Happy. 1027 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 5: Yeah if anyone can't bring themselves to feel genuinely happy for, 1028 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 5: us then they can feel free to f write off. 1029 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 7: End of that. 1030 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: Story we got. There that's exactly where you want to. 1031 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 2: Be, Yeah and if you can fully embody that in 1032 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 2: a real, way you're. 1033 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: Perfect your mom's not giving him a. 1034 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 5: CHANCE i think it's clear that maybe her parents were, 1035 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 5: divorced AND i think your mom is projecting all of 1036 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 5: that onto you And, frank. 1037 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: There's definitely some nonsense going on in the logic department 1038 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 2: of your. 1039 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 1: Mom's my father ruined my. Guitar it was the last 1040 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: straw for me and the last string on the. 1041 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 2: Guitar trigger warning on this episode right now for narcissistic 1042 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 2: parents as this dad is a narsy and. 1043 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: Also for mentions of self. 1044 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 2: Harm AND i am a pharmacy intern and an immunizer 1045 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 2: that has been helping out. 1046 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: Since the pandemic started. 1047 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 2: It i've been working crazy hours and my schedule at 1048 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 2: the hospital is all over the. 1049 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: Place for everyone. 1050 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: Listening And dad That ani stands for Nars i'm going 1051 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 2: to just refer to him As dad for the rest 1052 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 2: of the. 1053 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: Story my dad is. 1054 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 2: The type where he needs total control over my life 1055 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 2: and needs to know my exact schedule and times and 1056 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 2: tracks the mileage on my car and, everything which sounds 1057 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 2: like narcissism'. Me my mom just sticks to everything my dad, 1058 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: says so there is no use. There i've learned to 1059 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 2: live with, it As i'm staying home with my parents 1060 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 2: during the pandemic to save. Money by the, way this 1061 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 2: comes from Muser Kitty glock and if you want to 1062 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 2: submit your own, stories go to the rt Slash okay 1063 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 2: storytime subredd. It this, day in, particular the hospital was 1064 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 2: severely understaffed AND i stayed behind three hours to help, 1065 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 2: out per my supervisor asking me. TO i called my 1066 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: dad to let him know and he didn't, answer SO 1067 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 2: i left him a voicemail and shot him at tex 1068 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 2: just in. Case after, THIS i left my phone on 1069 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: the pharmacy desk somewhere AS i was assisting and delivering 1070 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 2: medicine throughout the hospital and it was so, HECTIC i 1071 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 2: just didn't think much of. It after my shift was, 1072 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 2: OVER i grabbed my stuff and NOTICED i had twenty 1073 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 2: plus missed calls from my. DAD i called and he was, 1074 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 2: furious calling me a liar cheater and effing's stupid. Witch 1075 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 2: he told Me i'd regret lying and to come home. 1076 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 2: Immediately WHEN i came, HOME i expected another screaming. Match 1077 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 2: but WHAT i didn't expect is that my even as 1078 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 2: black or a, burst just completely effed up on the. 1079 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 2: Ground it was a gift from my late, uncle who 1080 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 2: was an avid guitar player and taught me from the 1081 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 2: age of. Ten he left me a sum of money 1082 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 2: after he passed for me to pick any guitar of my. 1083 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 2: Choice he was my dad's bio brother and saved me 1084 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 2: from a lot of butt slappins and basically raised me 1085 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 2: into WHAT i am. TODAY i considered him basically my father, 1086 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 2: figure so the guitar was extremely sentimental to. Me he 1087 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 2: passed away WHEN i was fifteen from colon, camp and 1088 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 2: the guitar was the last THING i had from. Him 1089 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 2: playing the guitar for me was a hobby that took 1090 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 2: away so much stress and gave me so much happiness and. 1091 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 2: Relief my guitar saved me from so many times WHERE 1092 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 2: i considered self harm and gave me a reason to. 1093 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,479 Speaker 2: Live so coming home to see her smashed to crap 1094 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 2: on the living room floor was like looking. 1095 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: At my will to live literally being. 1096 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 2: Destroyed as corny as that, sounds, anyways my dad basically 1097 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 2: said it's my fault SINCE i didn't wait to call 1098 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 2: him multiple times to pick. Up but apparently he can't 1099 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 2: effing read a text message or listen to a. VOICEMAIL 1100 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 2: i gathered the pieces of my guitar into a trash 1101 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 2: bag and, clothing AND i stole all his toilet paper 1102 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 2: and booked it to a hotel Where i'm writing this 1103 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 2: on my. iPhone i don't know What i'm gonna do, 1104 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 2: now BUT i Know i'm never gonna talk or see him, 1105 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 2: again and that makes me feel. BETTER i WISH i 1106 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 2: could see my uncle, again though there's an edit. Here 1107 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 2: the black Or burst is a twenty nineteen model guitar 1108 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 2: THAT i bought with the money that my uncle left with, 1109 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 2: Me hence it was his last gift to. Me but 1110 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 2: he passed away and was buried with His IBANEZ rg seven. 1111 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 2: Seventy that was his. Guitar he was An ibanez, man 1112 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 2: AND i wanted to just carry on the. TRADITION i 1113 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 2: wanted to clear up the confusion if there was, any 1114 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 2: and there is an. Update hello, Everyone i'm so SORRY 1115 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 2: i haven't been able to update. Sooner life has been, 1116 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 2: hectic and, honestly it's been really hard for me to 1117 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 2: really think about. It thank you so much to everyone 1118 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 2: who gave me great advice and. REASSURANCE i don't know 1119 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 2: what would have happened IF i didn't have the. Support 1120 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 2: going to go ahead and address a couple of, things 1121 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 2: and thank the people who reach out to me, privately 1122 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 2: not only to extend a hand of me, financially but 1123 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 2: give me such kind. 1124 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: Words thank. 1125 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 2: You it means a. Lot what is the model of the? 1126 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 2: Guitar IT'S rgd seven to one alms work. Situation the 1127 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 2: day after the incident, HAPPENED i notified security of the 1128 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: threat immediately and removed my parents from my contact. LIST 1129 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 2: i also let some of my coworkers know about my, 1130 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 2: situation AND i have coworkers who work nearly the same 1131 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 2: schedule AS i, do so we've been parking next to 1132 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 2: each other and they've basically been escorting me to and 1133 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 2: from the, buildings And i'm eternally. GRATEFUL i have also 1134 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,959 Speaker 2: spoken with my supervisor about having me transferred to another 1135 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: hospital farther. Away, unfortunately due to the, circumstances we are 1136 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 2: in right, now short staffed and, pandemic and most positions are. 1137 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 2: Filled i'm unable to, transfer but a transfer is SOMETHING 1138 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 2: i would have to wait for in a couple of 1139 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 2: months necessary documents for moving. Out my best Friend rob 1140 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 2: and his boyfriend have allowed me to stay with them 1141 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,439 Speaker 2: for as long AS i need. To rob is very 1142 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 2: familiar with my dad and has even extended the offer 1143 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 2: to let me stay with him even before the guitar smash. 1144 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 2: Happened really grateful for his support right, now And i've 1145 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 2: been trying my best to be an amazing roommate because 1146 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 2: this seems like it's. 1147 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: Going to be a long term. 1148 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 2: Thing seeing How i'm unable to transfer with my, JOB 1149 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 2: i was thinking of looking at getting my own, apartment 1150 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 2: But robin sits on me staying as long AS i 1151 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 2: can pay rent and do chores around the, house Which 1152 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 2: i'm more than happy to, do so no. 1153 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 1: Worries living situation figured. 1154 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 2: Out i'm sure children of narcissistic parents get very familiar 1155 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 2: with their parents' schedule so they can plan around. It 1156 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 2: all throughout my teen, LIFE i memorized my parents' work. 1157 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 2: Schedule knowing this, INFO i basically planned sneaking back into the, 1158 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 2: house packing the rest of my stuff and. Bouncing SINCE 1159 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 2: i did a half butt job the first, TIME i 1160 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 2: knew where all my important documents were fortunately and got 1161 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 2: the rest of my clothes and. Belongings the surprising thing 1162 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 2: was WHEN i went in my, room there was a 1163 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 2: card on the desk from my, parents and it was 1164 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 2: addressed to. Me, basically in the letter was an apology 1165 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 2: from my. Dad he was saying how he lost control 1166 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 2: and he was only worried about me Since i'm his only, 1167 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 2: child and THAT i should understand his anger comes from 1168 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 2: a place of. Love he says he knows his an 1169 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 2: is an issue and it's the reason why we don't 1170 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 2: have a healthy. Relationship it was really painful for me to. 1171 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 2: Read dang it straight up balled my eyes out in my. 1172 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 2: Room the crazy thing about my narcissistic parents is that 1173 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 2: most of the time they realize how damaging their actions, 1174 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 2: are but they won't fix them because they think they're 1175 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 2: right and that they can't do anything. Wrong if we 1176 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 2: the children get hurt by their, actions we deserve. It 1177 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 2: that is how their mind. Works as much AS i 1178 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 2: wanted to forgive, him BECAUSE i do love him very, 1179 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 2: MUCH i knew IF i, did the cycle would start 1180 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 2: all over, again and next Time i'd lose much more 1181 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: than a guitar over his. TANTRUM i left the note 1182 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 2: on the, desk opened so he would KNOW i read, 1183 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 2: it and still chose to leave a police report for damaged. 1184 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 2: PROPERTY i am not filing a police report against my. 1185 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,280 Speaker 2: DAD i really thought about, it BUT i decided against, 1186 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 2: it even though that guitar was a good chunk of 1187 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 2: money and it would be a felony. CHARGE i really 1188 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 2: just don't have the energy to put into. It but 1189 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,280 Speaker 2: my parents are on the wealthier, side So i'm sure 1190 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 2: it would be a really drawn out legal. Fight addressing 1191 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 2: the cheating, Part, yes my dad called me a cheater 1192 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 2: over the phone for, real and it isn't the first 1193 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 2: time he has a skewed definition of the word. Cheater but, 1194 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,280 Speaker 2: Again i'm his only child And i'm also a. Girl 1195 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 2: he's always felt like he's had this claim over, me 1196 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 2: Like i'm his. Property that's actually the most disturbing Thing 1197 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 2: i've read in this entire. 1198 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 1: Story, ah your. 1199 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 2: Dad claims you as property and says you're cheating on 1200 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 2: him with just other human. 1201 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: Beings Ah, No. 1202 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah that's LIKE i Would can you file a restraining 1203 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 2: order against your dad with just the information you have right? 1204 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: Now BECAUSE i would do. 1205 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 2: THAT i would try to find a way to make 1206 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 2: it illegal for him to come around you and something 1207 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 2: that could get him punished by. 1208 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: Law make the. 1209 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 5: Police, report but say you don't want to press, charges 1210 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 5: so that they still have the, report and if he 1211 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 5: comes back and tries, anything it's. Noted you can do 1212 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 5: that without actually having to go through with any legal 1213 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 5: action against. 1214 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,760 Speaker 2: Him he always lost his crap WHEN i was dating 1215 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 2: someone or if anyone showed interest in. 1216 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: Me it was so effing. 1217 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 2: Weird, ah this is a whole other piece of trauma 1218 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,879 Speaker 2: in my childhood THAT i don't want to visit right. 1219 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 1: Now what happened to the. 1220 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 2: GUITAR i took my baby to an old friend of 1221 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 2: my uncle's who he used to play, with Named. ADAM 1222 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 2: i basically just handed him the trash BAG i had 1223 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 2: the guitar in and left and told him to call 1224 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 2: me to see if it was. FIXABLE i really didn't 1225 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 2: want to look at the guitar anymore THAN i had. 1226 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 2: To he called me a couple hours later and told 1227 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 2: me there was no WAY i could salvager if anyone 1228 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 2: knows anything About, ibanez they are known for their slender, 1229 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 2: necks and her neck was so damaged it was on 1230 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 2: the verge of. Snapping my dad didn't just smash my 1231 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 2: guitar on the. Ground he took a hammer or something 1232 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 2: to the body and bent the. NECK i just ended 1233 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 2: up deciding to burn the guitar and just keeping the 1234 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,479 Speaker 2: metal pieces like the tuner's bridge and. Strings as it keeps, saying, 1235 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 2: honestly losing that guitar feels like losing my uncle all over. 1236 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 2: Again painful as f and it took a day after 1237 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 2: the incident for all the emotions to set. In i've 1238 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,240 Speaker 2: been drowning myself in work and maybe a little booze 1239 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 2: to not think about. It AND i don't THINK i 1240 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 2: really want to play anytime. Soon why DID i steal 1241 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 2: all the toilet? Paper he stole the toilet paper because 1242 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 2: it's the pandemic and these people deserve to not be 1243 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 2: able to wipe their. 1244 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 1: Butts that's why he did. 1245 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 2: It, clearly the toilet paper Was the toilet paper was 1246 00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 2: stolen because it was gonna be hard for them to 1247 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 2: get more toilet. Paper any smashed his, guitar AND i 1248 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 2: love that this toilet paper, thing that's, great the greatest 1249 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,240 Speaker 2: form of petty. Revenge no crimes were, committed just toilet. 1250 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 2: Paper why don't you do? 1251 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 1: It have a? 1252 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 2: Pioneers did? It you have two, hands right left, hand right? 1253 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 2: Hand pick. ONE a lot of you are saying this 1254 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 2: is a last gift from my, uncle the freedom from 1255 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 2: my dad, forever and that's, beautiful AND i think it's. 1256 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 2: True i'm not a spiritual, person but that night in 1257 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 2: the hotel AFTER i made this, POST i had some 1258 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 2: dark thoughts AND i dreamed about my uncle that night 1259 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: for the first time in. YEARS i guess everything happens 1260 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 2: for a. Reason, again thanks so much to. EVERYONE i 1261 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 2: owe this update to, y'all and just a final. Edit 1262 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 2: my uncle actually left me quite a bit when he, 1263 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 2: passed AND i will be very comfortable for a. 1264 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,399 Speaker 1: While money was never an. 1265 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 2: Issue the only Reason i'm staying With, rob my, friend 1266 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 2: is because he's just afraid for my safety IF i 1267 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 2: were to stay home. Alone my dad is crazy enough 1268 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 2: to hire A. PI i also plan on melting the 1269 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 2: metal pieces down into, jewelry as many of you. Recommended, 1270 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 2: yeah AND i will post the. 1271 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 1: Results love, you, Guys and that is the end of that. 1272 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 2: Story your father hiring A pi against you probably could 1273 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 2: be used for some kind of maybe harassment. CASE i 1274 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 2: don't know all the stuff that your dad does against, 1275 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 2: you pay per trail. It your priority one is making 1276 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 2: it so that if he does try to get close 1277 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 2: to you, again you can have that be an arrestable. 1278 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,399 Speaker 5: Offense, yeah and staying with your friend for safety for. 1279 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: A, while that's a great. 1280 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 5: Idea, Yeah and eventually maybe you can find a different 1281 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,800 Speaker 5: roommate for a place on your, own or maybe eventually 1282 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 5: live on your. 1283 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: Own but, yeah it's safe for. Now, hey It's john. 1284 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: Here we're gonna get back to the. 1285 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 2: Stories put a quick three minute ad break from our 1286 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:41,919 Speaker 2: sponsors that keep the show. 1287 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 5: GOING i refuse to join my family's holiday trip because 1288 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 5: my mother will be. 1289 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: THERE i hate my, mom and. 1290 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 5: We have a trigger warning mentions of A my twenty 1291 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 5: eight female dad is a massive enabler of my narc, 1292 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 5: mom who will just call mom. 1293 00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: Despite the fact that they're. 1294 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 5: Divorced my dad keeps in contact with her every, day 1295 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 5: and if it wasn't for, him probably no one in 1296 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 5: my family would talk to. Her by the, way this 1297 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 5: comes from Fake, Lancelot and if you want to submit 1298 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,760 Speaker 5: your own, stories go to the r Slash okay storytime 1299 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 5: sup reread. It she is harmful and probably always will, 1300 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 5: be and we haven't talked in three. Weeks after our last, 1301 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 5: fight she blew up at me over a random news 1302 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 5: article and then showed up in my room at one 1303 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 5: am crying about HOW. 1304 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: I pick fights with her to get her to yell on. 1305 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 5: Purpose SO i love my dad and, sister they have 1306 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 5: a really bad habit of manipulating me into going along 1307 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 5: with all of their. Plans this, YEAR i found out 1308 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 5: that my dad had planned a trip to another province 1309 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,760 Speaker 5: to stay with my mom's extended family for a, week 1310 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 5: and most definitely because he KNEW i would not want to, 1311 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 5: come booked my airline ticket In airbnb without telling, me 1312 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 5: and has told all of our RELATIVES i will be. 1313 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 5: COMING i found out from my grandpa he never asked 1314 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 5: me directly and just kept ASSUMING i would. Come he 1315 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 5: dropped literally hundreds of dollars on willful. Manifesting WHEN i 1316 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,720 Speaker 5: finally brought this up to him and SAID i didn't 1317 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 5: want to come and that he never actually asked, me 1318 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,760 Speaker 5: he admitted that he didn't and, apologized but then pulled 1319 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 5: out every manipulation tactic in the book to get me 1320 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 5: to agree to. 1321 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: Come your relatives will all be passing away. 1322 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 5: Soon what if you just come for three days And 1323 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 5: i'll book you an early flight. Back you're my, favorite 1324 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,760 Speaker 5: so if you don't, GO i won't want to go. Either, 1325 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,320 Speaker 5: DISGUSTING i refused and told HIM i didn't want to 1326 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,439 Speaker 5: spend My christmas holidays worrying about my mom coming into 1327 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 5: my room at WHEN i am to randomly shout at. 1328 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,280 Speaker 5: Me he insisted she wouldn't do, that but we both 1329 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 5: know she. Will she always. Does my sister sympathizes that 1330 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 5: my dad never asked me and That mom's behavior towards me. 1331 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 5: Sucks but despite me having multiple conversations with both my 1332 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,720 Speaker 5: dad and my, sister they still tell Everyone i'm coming 1333 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 5: and act like nothing's. Happened this is obviously disrespectful and crazy. 1334 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 5: Making but despite my therapist and my friends all telling 1335 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,719 Speaker 5: ME i should absolutely not go on the trip and 1336 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 5: uphold my boundaries for my own peace of, MIND i 1337 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 5: still find it very hard to disappoint my. Family i'm 1338 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 5: weirdly petrified by the. Idea it's made me really, depressed 1339 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 5: And i've been self isolating like. Crazy my friends have 1340 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 5: all Made christmas plans to include, me SO i won't 1341 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 5: be alone for the. Holidays i'm so lucky to have 1342 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 5: them AND i want to Spend christmas with, Them but 1343 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,879 Speaker 5: the conversation with my dad is. TERRIFYING i know he's 1344 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 5: going to try to wriggle around, it And i'm going 1345 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 5: to be the holiday bad. Guy any chance of supportive 1346 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 5: people of this sub can give me the final galvanizing. 1347 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 5: PUSH i need to plant my feet down and hold my. 1348 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 5: Ground any advice is also. Welcome thank, you and we 1349 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 5: have an. UPDATE i FIGURED i should post this update 1350 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 5: BECAUSE i was blown away by the response to my 1351 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 5: first post for support and want to thank you all 1352 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 5: from the bottom of my. Heart This subredda is a 1353 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 5: godsend and without, IT i would probably be at the 1354 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 5: airport right. 1355 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: Now what, Dreams you're. Nice let's go fake love to 1356 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 1: this amazing. 1357 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 5: Community my mom came over yesterday so we could all 1358 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 5: leave to the airport early the next. Day she was 1359 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 5: giving me the cold shoulder off all, day only speaking 1360 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 5: to me to ask me to carry her suitcase into the. 1361 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 5: HOUSE a lunch with my sister's family and. 1362 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 1: In laws was. 1363 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 5: ORGANIZED i was not asked or consulted on. PLANS i 1364 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 5: was just expected to. Come, HOWEVER i was happy to 1365 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 5: do this BECAUSE i was not going on The christmas 1366 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 5: trip AND i still wanted to see my niece and 1367 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 5: give my sister's family their. Present as, expected everyone acted 1368 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 5: as if my travel plans were. SET i was scared 1369 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 5: out of my mind of telling my dad a firm. 1370 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: No BUT i had everything in. 1371 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 5: PLACE i had everyone's gifts ready to. GO i made 1372 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 5: plans from the twenty fourth Until New. YEAR'S i ordered 1373 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 5: groceries online for the, week my therapist was on. CALL 1374 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 5: i had posted On reddit for the final. 1375 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: Push it was. 1376 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 5: Time let's go to the many people who SAID i 1377 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 5: should just text her email and get out of the 1378 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 5: house until they were. GONE i see the wisdom in your. Advice, now, 1379 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 5: no she still did. 1380 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: It, yeah but the hard. Way, yeah like to stay 1381 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 1: on hard. MODE i was. 1382 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,959 Speaker 5: Too scared to do that BECAUSE i worried it would 1383 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 5: be too cold, hot AND i wanted to talk it 1384 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 5: out like. 1385 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 1: Adults from now, On i'll probably just do as you. 1386 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 1: Suggested it would save myself a lot of. 1387 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 5: GRIEF i decided to talk to my mom, first because 1388 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 5: sometimes she will take my side in conversations with my. 1389 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 5: Dad she was surprisingly chill WHEN i told HER i wasn't, 1390 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 5: coming and agreed That dad shouldn't have gone behind my 1391 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 5: back for. 1392 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: Plans he's just always been that. WAY i don't think it's, 1393 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: intentional but. 1394 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 5: Compulsive but then very randomly segued into all the WRONGS 1395 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 5: i had committed a month, ago which primarily seemed to 1396 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 5: be letting her eat the ham i'd bought and being 1397 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 5: snappy about it when she offered to buy me. 1398 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: More, ope just eat the, ham eat all the. Ham, 1399 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: gosh what the? 1400 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 5: Heck? Obi she, SAID i don't think about the WORDS 1401 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 5: i say and how they affect. 1402 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: PEOPLE i said THAT i definitely. 1403 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 5: Have times WHERE i get, snappy but, usually especially in 1404 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 5: the very odd cases she was giving, me it was 1405 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 5: in response to her And dad's. 1406 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: Behavior she said she didn't think that was, fair and 1407 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:56,439 Speaker 1: that she. 1408 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 5: Had tried to be patient with, me and THAT i 1409 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 5: was lucky to have the pair parents THAT i, have 1410 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 5: and that MAYBE i should consider how ENTITLED i was 1411 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 5: being and my expectations were too. HIGH i, said, CALMLY 1412 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 5: i don't have any expectations for. YOU i don't want 1413 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 5: you to do. ANYTHING i just want to have Fun 1414 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 5: christmas with my. Friends my mom said she wasn't going 1415 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 5: to be satisfied UNTIL i showed her some. Gratitude dad 1416 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 5: came into the. Room somewhere in the middle of all of. 1417 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 5: This my mom was crying and yelling as she berated 1418 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 5: me for HAM i let her. Eat it is probably 1419 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 5: relevant information that my mom has diagnosed by polar. DISORDER 1420 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 5: i think her meds made need an. Update he just 1421 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 5: sat on the couch and silently, watched which is what 1422 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 5: he always. Does, finally he asked what's going, on AND 1423 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 5: i said To i'm not going to A christmas trip. 1424 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 5: Location she's mad about something, else THOUGH i have no. 1425 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 5: Idea this post is getting a little, long but suffice 1426 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 5: it to say That dad's response was the. Worst he 1427 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 5: got very, upset INSISTED i could not cancel. This late 1428 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 5: SAID i couldn't deal with, this gestures to mom. Anymore, 1429 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 5: oh in a, way and my mom exploding again was 1430 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 5: a gift From god because it reminded. 1431 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: Me that this was WHAT i would be dealing with 1432 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 1: all week IF i went on the. Trip but My 1433 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 1: dad couldn't accept. 1434 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 5: This we went two rounds of conversations Because he insisted 1435 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 5: that we needed to talk this, out but the whole 1436 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 5: time gave me the silent treatment and just sat on 1437 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 5: the stairs with his head in his, hands without, speaking 1438 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 5: acting like a. 1439 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 7: Child. 1440 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Dude come, on come, on. 1441 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 5: Dad i'd only seen him this way when my aunt passed. 1442 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 5: Away he was acting like someone had passed away BECAUSE 1443 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,439 Speaker 5: i wasn't going on The christmas a TRIP i never 1444 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 5: agreed to. 1445 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 1: And that you didn't know. 1446 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 5: About, YEAH i, said is there anything you want to 1447 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 5: talk about besides trying to get me to change my? 1448 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: Mind he said. 1449 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 5: No later, ON i, said imagine IF i did suddenly 1450 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 5: change my mind and told You i'd go after all, this. 1451 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Would that really make you feel? 1452 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 5: Better he said, yes AND i, said even Knowing i'd 1453 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 5: be miserable the whole. Time he was silent for a 1454 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 5: while and then, said you don't know how you'd feel 1455 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 5: when you got. There my mom proceeded to mock me 1456 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 5: for thinking he would answer in any other. 1457 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Way it was. 1458 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 5: Unbelievable, HONESTLY i feel like it's already believable at this 1459 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 5: point that you heard know. 1460 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 3: This, ALSO i just think the mom likes to get 1461 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 3: onto the, dad so anything the dad does wrong she's 1462 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 3: just gonna come after. 1463 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: Him, yeah it's the Vibe i'm. Getting but, also she's. 1464 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 3: Gonna come after you because she remembers what you did 1465 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 3: with that ham last, month and she, eats. 1466 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Didn't eat her ham and didn't buy. More why were 1467 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: you so snappy with? 1468 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 2: Her? 1469 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 5: HUH i knew my parents were not normal and very, 1470 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 5: undependable but the way they reacted still shocked. Me if 1471 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 5: you're ever not sure your family is self, absorbed tried 1472 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 5: telling them, no BUT i saw them off this, morning 1473 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 5: and as soon as they were, GONE i felt lightheaded 1474 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 5: from how good it. FELT i had cried myself to 1475 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 5: sleep without taking my makeup, off and had a couple 1476 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 5: of new zits this, morning AND i still smiled at 1477 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 5: my reflection in the. Mirror the world feels so big right, 1478 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 5: now and the house doesn't feel like a giant venus fly. 1479 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 5: Trap my friends called me to check on, me and 1480 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 5: my therapists responded to my text at the speed of. 1481 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 5: Light my sister was incredibly understanding and. SUPPORTIVE i made 1482 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 5: myself eggs and washed the sheets for the guest room 1483 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 5: because my friend is coming tomorrow to stay with me 1484 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 5: for a few. DAYS i am, so so grateful to 1485 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 5: myself for choosing. 1486 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 1: ME i feel LIKE i. 1487 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 5: Stood up for a little kid today who really needed. 1488 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 5: ME i have a lot of decisions to make by 1489 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 5: the end of the, week but for the first, TIME 1490 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 5: i KNOW i can do what's best for. Myself thank, 1491 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 5: you thank, you thank you to everyone in the SUB 1492 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 5: i hope everybody who reads this chooses peace for themselves 1493 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 5: this holiday. 1494 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 1: Season