1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They called 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: Paul mission controlled decant. Most importantly, you are you. You 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: are here. That makes this the stuff they don't want 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: you to know. We have returned fresh from another misadventure 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: that we narrowly survived, and as you know, the first 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: thing we decided to do once we realized we were 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: all going to make it to the next week was 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: to get excited about our listener mail segment. It's one 14 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: of our favorite times of the week. We are gal 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: Vin Eyes by the energy of being able to have 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: an adventure out in Austin, Texas. Hello Austin, if you're listening, Uh, 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: stay weird. They measure up to the hype and good 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: luck with the chaos and pandemonium that is south by Southwest. 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: Amid our adventures, Matt, Noel and yours truly dug into 20 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: some emails, We made some calls, We listened to some 21 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: correspondencies via our telephone number one eight three three std 22 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: W y t K, and we have returned to Podcast 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: Civilization with some fascinating stories from you. We're going to 24 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: talk about a secret Internet true story. We're going to 25 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: hear some follow ups on the Sonic Boom investigation that 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: we've been we've been holding for several weeks now, and 27 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: we're going to travel to Nebraska for some drone action. 28 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: I I think we kick off today with a letter 29 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: from E. Also, I love that we've got a lot 30 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,919 Speaker 1: of people who are writing in and choosing a single 31 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: letter as their respective code names. We're going to try 32 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: to keep track of them. I've got a little list 33 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: of the alphabet, will let you know when someone gets 34 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: to the gets to the last one. Uh, here we go, 35 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: Here we go. E writes in and says, hey, gentlemen, 36 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: I love your show and I wanted to give you 37 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: guys some info to check out. He's got two things here. 38 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: First point is, I was in an uber writing to 39 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: d C in October of one. There was traffic on 40 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: the fourteenth Street bridge, so we were in stopping go 41 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: traffic for a bit. Shortly after being stopped, I heard 42 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: the distinct sound of an airplane flying extremely low, like 43 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: one hundred to two hundred feet low, directly over the 44 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: bridge and specifically over the uber I was in. The 45 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: strange thing is that there were absolutely no lights on 46 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: the plane and it was almost silent. It was completely 47 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: by chance that I even looked up from my phone 48 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: for a split second to notice it. I know for 49 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: a fact it wasn't anything taking off from Reagan. It's 50 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: the airport, because obviously commercial aircraft have to have lights. 51 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: We talked about that, and d C is protected airspace. 52 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: We've talked about that as well. I didn't even think, 53 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: says E, to try to get a video or a picture, 54 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: because by the time my brain processed what was happening 55 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: and what I was witnessing, the plane flew west. I've 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: looked on the web to see if there have been 57 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: any reports, but sadly I haven't seen or heard anything. 58 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: If you guys, that just doesn't mean Matt Nolan myself 59 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: means you as well, fellow conspiracy realist. If you guys 60 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: hear anything about a nearly silent, all black classified aircraft 61 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: being tested, I'd love to hear about it. I'm not 62 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: focusing on that part today. I want to put that 63 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: out there because we have a lot of great folks 64 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: in let's say, various career paths who could speak authoritatively 65 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: about this. So if you feel like helping the team 66 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: out and helping your fellow listeners and helping E out, 67 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and write to us. Well, we'll give you 68 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: all the ways to contact us at the end of 69 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: today's show. But let's get to the second point. Well, wait, 70 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: before you do that, Ben, just remember everybody that was 71 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: October Washington, d C, low flying, silent plus very low flying. Uh. 72 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: And he lays out why that is so weird some 73 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: of the reasons that's very strange. So here we go. 74 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: This is the part that I knew Nolan. I knew 75 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: you two would especially love this, he says. Secondly, I 76 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: was listening to the show the other day. Matt was 77 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: reading a letter from a guy who has a friend 78 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: in no such agency, and you guys were commenting on 79 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: what messaging service those guys used to communicate. Well, lo 80 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: and behold, I was reading an article about Trump supporting 81 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: intelligence agents in just about all twenty two of the 82 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: intelligent services who supported the I'll say it since no 83 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: one else wants to say it attempted coup on January six. 84 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: Others will call it an insurrection. But I know what 85 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: I saw. Sounds like he is speaking from experience living 86 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: in d C. Anyway. Apparently, there is a messaging service 87 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: that intelligence agents and officers use called intel Link E 88 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: I N T E L I n K. It's a 89 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: mirror of Twitter, where government officials with security clearances can 90 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: go chat privately. That's cool, says he, But the scary 91 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: part of that is that there are a bunch of 92 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: pro Trump factions in our government that agree with destroying 93 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: our government. Please do a show on both of these things, 94 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: because that info is truly the stuff they don't want 95 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: us to know. Thanks and keep up the good work. 96 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: E Let's start with you, guys. What do you think 97 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: secret secret Internet? Secret Internet for the spies excuse me, 98 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: the tradecraft enthusiasts or whatever we're supposed to say. I mean, 99 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: I guess so, wouldn't that just be like an encrypted 100 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: channel on the Internet? Like what, why doesn't need a 101 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: whole secret Internet? Well, it's just, you know, it's fun 102 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: to have secrets. I suppose that. Yeah, it won't ben, 103 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: it won't let me go to intel link dot gov 104 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: from my work machine because you don't have the clearance 105 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: for the secret Internet. Bro. No, it says, it says 106 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: it's not secure. Yeah, that's pretty interesting too, and of itself, 107 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. In our notes here I put in 108 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: the official link, but if you try to get to it, 109 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: you will be worn depend on which browser you're using. 110 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: That it is indeed not a secure, not a secure site. 111 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: So let's talk about what it is because you can 112 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: find these resources. Intel link started kind of in its 113 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: testing phase in so it describes itself as an architectural 114 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: framework and an integrated intelligence dissemination and collaboration service provide 115 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: uniform methods for exchanging intelligence among intelligence providers and users. 116 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: You can tell that's that super sexy government language. Uh. 117 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: This this isn't something that is necessarily unique to the 118 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: United States and Uncle Sam's spies. Uh, they're even unique 119 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: to the public in general, because if you live in 120 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: certain isolated countries or even just authoritarian countries that aren't isolated, 121 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: you will see that the domestic Internet is very different 122 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: from the worldwide Internet. Sites can be banned, you have 123 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: to have workarounds like tour proxies that kind of stuff 124 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: and in some you know, like very much more extreme examples. 125 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: We've talked about this. In the case of North Korea, 126 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: there may as well be it's its own internet, you 127 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's own kind of it's own 128 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: kind of completely cordoned off infrastructure. But obviously people can 129 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: get in two parts of the Internet because that one 130 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: guy allegedly ACKed North Korea. Check out our past segment 131 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: to hear more about this. But when we talk about 132 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: it into into Link, we need to understand that before 133 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: we talk about the idea of if I read what 134 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: you're saying correctly, you're talking about the concept that there 135 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: would be UH secessionist seditionists in the government, right, almost 136 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: a fifth column of people who want to destroy the 137 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: same thing that is employing them. That happens, that happens 138 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: throughout human history, from the ancient past to the modern day. 139 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: It is a very real concern, and you see it 140 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: time and time again. But first let's talk about who 141 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: uses into Link. They're going to be members of the 142 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: i C, the U S. Intelligence community. They've done a 143 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: couple of different things. They have an internal network, they 144 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: have their own Twitter called the Burst of Creativity E 145 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: chirp because you know, like a bird. Uh, it's it's 146 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: very much as I understand, it's very much like, um, 147 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: we have Twitter at home. It's that kind of meme. 148 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: But it's Uh. The intelligence community here in the US 149 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: has about seventeen distinct organizations. They each function under their 150 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: own kind of regimes of secrecy. And I'm using regime 151 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: there to mean a set of governing rules. So they 152 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: had in each chirp had eleven thousand, five hundred sixty 153 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: nine users and a little less than a hundred thousand chirps. 154 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: Because you you can imagine probably people aren't people aren't 155 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: just what do we call it these days, people probably 156 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: aren't posting as much as they do on civilian Twitter. Initially, 157 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: this makes sense that something like each Chirp or intel 158 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: link would exist because one of the huge flaws in 159 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: the intelligence structure of the US was laid bare in 160 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: the events of September eleven, which is that often due 161 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: to the way they siloed information, the left hand didn't 162 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: know what the right hand was doing, or the fourth 163 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: tentacle didn't know what the eighth tentacle was doing. And yes, 164 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: technically octopuses have arms, not tentacles. It is known, as 165 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: they say in Game of Thrones. But but here's the thing, 166 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: it's a paradigm shift, right. This is so interesting because 167 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: intelink represents this see change from the idea of need 168 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: to know basis to need to share basis. Let's cut 169 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: past the red tape. Let me just let me just 170 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: go on this thing and just give a heads up, 171 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: brief heads up for everybody else in the tradecraft or 172 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: intelligence collection community. And now we can avoid all of 173 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: the hassles that slow the operations down, right, or that 174 00:10:53,880 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: stymy initiatives. So that's cool, right, like that, that's seems 175 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: like that could be a good thing. But E is 176 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: pointing out a serious concern, which is that you know, 177 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: because this is not public facing, is concerned is that 178 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: there may be there may be people who actively want 179 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: to overthrow the government. Supporting a political candidate who lost 180 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: an election is definitely not the same as mutiny, right 181 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: and uh, and I feel like we have to give 182 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: this disclaimer. There are you know, there are expectations for 183 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: anyone in public service, and spies do still technically count 184 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: as public service. I shouldn't say spies, not all intelligence 185 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: folks or spies but there are expectations about how you 186 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: handle your own political beliefs. You can absolutely vote for 187 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: whomever you wish, right, you can absolutely support the candidate 188 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: or the policies of your choice, but that's not supposed 189 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: to interfere with your job. And already just saying that, 190 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: we can see that in practice that's probably often not 191 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: the case. So the concern here is that uh, people 192 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: who are on the far end of a political spectrum, 193 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: people who want to overthrow the current government the same 194 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: way that the tycoons of old sought to overthrow the 195 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: FDR administration. The ideas that these folks are able to 196 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: get together in a way that they weren't able to before, 197 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: and that this new, increasingly seamless form of communication may 198 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: even be radicalizing them, allowing some of the most powerful 199 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: people in the world of intelligence to possibly act on 200 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: their knowledge and to maybe further their aims on the offset. 201 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: That might sound crazy, but guys, I don't know. I 202 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: don't think it's too fun. I don't think it's outside 203 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: the realm of possibility. Honestly, I agree, Ben, And it 204 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: is true that I think it doesn't matter who's in office, 205 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: what administration is in there there's potential to have, you know, 206 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: the same kind of splinter cells, no matter who's in 207 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: charge and what parties in charge or whatever. Just people 208 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: who think you know a different way and are able 209 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: to communicate quietly on something like this platform. And uh, 210 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: it's just creepy because of the positions held by the 211 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: people maybe having those quiet conversations. M m m m yeah. 212 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: And it's also it's it's like a series of different intranets, 213 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: none of which you have access to legally if you 214 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: are if you don't qualify to be a member. So 215 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: the average Jane and Joe whomever are not going to 216 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: be able to see a whiff of this. There's another 217 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: cool thing. I don't know if you you had clocked 218 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: this as well. E um, but Matt Noel, there is 219 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: a secret version of Wikipedia. I kid you not. It's 220 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: called Intellipedia. It came about in two thousand six, in April, 221 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: and it's just for intelligence analysts and they can add 222 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: and addit just like any other Wikipedia, but you can't 223 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: read it. So it's just like a subscription thing like 224 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: lexa Nexus or something, but you have to have the 225 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: cred to get in. So easily editable, probably super simple 226 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: representation on the page. Uh wow, that's brilliant. And what 227 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: would you give just for twenty minutes on that bad boy? 228 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: You screen grab everything printed out and run twenty minutes 229 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: is not enough time, No, it's not so Yes, this 230 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: may be a full episode. E. You have introduced us 231 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: to stuff that is frankly like delicious. This kind of 232 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: stuff is so tasty for us. A secret Wikipedia, yeah, 233 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: a classified communications platform that that took its cue from Twitter. 234 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: You have to wonder what private sector entities can access 235 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: amongst this. The interesting thing here is that we may 236 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: be thinking about the problem in the wrong light because 237 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: the n s A is actively infiltrating these private industries. 238 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a secret at this point. Like 239 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: in two thousand ten, Google went to no such and 240 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: asked them to help secure the Google network, and the 241 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: n s A just infiltrated their cloud system. I remember 242 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: when was it Neantech, that company that like had previous 243 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: affiliations with the n s A that went on to 244 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: create Pokemon Go. Um, it's not exactly the same thing, 245 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: but it's just interesting the way these organizations kind of 246 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: repurposed themselves. Yeah, that's it. That's why I kept hiding 247 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: my face. You guys were playing Pokemon go. It spooked 248 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: me on not one No wait wait, there's a chars 249 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: are right on the tip of your nose. No, don't 250 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: knock them off. I gotta capture them for my portfolio. 251 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: Freak out. Yeah, but I get that. It's so that's it. 252 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: That's it, So get to the Pokemon jip. But thank 253 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: you for writing e For anybody who can provide more information, 254 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: we'd love to hear from you. One three st d 255 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: w y t K conspiracy die heart radio dot com, 256 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: or if you wish, you can just find me on 257 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: personal social media. Hit me up there, I don't sleep, 258 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: appen Bowl and Instagram, Eppen Bowl, and hsw on Twitter. 259 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna pause, we have a word from our sponsors, 260 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: and then we're going to return with even more listener mail. 261 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: And we're back with a missive from a frog daddy. Uh. 262 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: Here's what frog Daddy writes. Yeah, frog Daddy says frog Daddy. Um, 263 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: he says this. I have been listening to your show 264 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: for about a year now, and I'm amazed at how 265 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: great of a job you do with it. Thank you, 266 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: frog Daddy. Uh. Today I listened to one of your 267 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: listener mail segments in which K to your point, bim 268 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: not a single letter um submissions for nicknames, in which 269 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: K tries to explain recent sonic booms heard around Tucson, Arizona. 270 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: This has caused me to finally write to you about 271 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: something that I have been fascinated by and have researched 272 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: for years now. I'm talking about sky trumpets, which some 273 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: folks tend to lump into the theory of the worldwide 274 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: hum um. Check out our previous episode right on the 275 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: what is it called? Just like the the Great hum Or? 276 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: Just the hum hum? Yeah, let me start by saying 277 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: I've never heard this sound except through video, and it 278 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: gives me goose bumps. I will attach some videos of 279 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: the exact sky trumpets sound I am trying to talk about. 280 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: It is my belief that this is not the same 281 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: sound as the Worldwide hum However, the hum is interesting 282 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: as well. There is a man who put together a 283 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: website where people can submit and report on when they've 284 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: heard the hum or trumpets, but I think the site 285 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: is flawed as some folks just seem to be reporting 286 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: on loud aircraft. I will also try to attach the 287 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: link to the site. I'd love to hear what you 288 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: think on this topic, as I'm terrified and obsessed with 289 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: the matter. Is the world crying out in pain? Let 290 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: me see that in the Werner Herzog voice. Is the 291 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: world crying out in pain? When these pokemon meet in 292 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: the streets? Is their violence? Is their murder um moving 293 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: on our angels? Signaling the end of times? Is it 294 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: simply construction machinery or could it be the stuff they 295 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: don't want you to know? Thank you keep up be 296 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: awesome working then supplies some great links. Who was that? Okay, 297 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: Austin yea, I seen you this link in the in 298 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: the chat here, here's one during a baseball game and 299 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: the fund is foul. The count is one and one, 300 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: and what could that possibly need? Somebody shut the door. 301 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: It sounds supernatural, guys here that yeah, so you know, 302 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: it sounds to me like one of those kids to 303 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: ways you get It's like a tube that you swing around, 304 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: you know, and he goes. It's kind of like an 305 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: oscillator kind of sound. And there there's a ton of 306 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: other examples. Um, you just just google sky trumpets or 307 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: look on YouTube and you'll find them from all over 308 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: the world, and there's a really great article from the 309 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: Baltimore Sun of all places, not in all places. They 310 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: do great reporting, but it is not necessarily specifically tied 311 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 1: to a region. UM. It's been heard as you know, 312 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: in as far as the Czech Republic, Australia, UM, you know, 313 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: all over the United States, UM, in different places Germany. 314 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: There's examples on this article on the Baltimore Sun, uh 315 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: from let's see New Jersey, Texas, New Zealand, Chicago, Australia, 316 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: all over the place, Finland, UM. And it is you 317 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: know there there is some similarity to the sound. It 318 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: does have this kind of weird, supernatural ethereal quality to it. 319 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: And as we discussed in the Holm episode, there are 320 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: some folks that would like to attribute this to harp UM, 321 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: which is the US government's high Frequency Active Oral Research 322 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: program UM that's analyzed the ion sphere UM, you know, 323 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: and this is something that's associated with what like lizard 324 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: people and things like that, and you know, weather control 325 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: and all manner of what harp was all about. Uh, 326 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: you know some of them. The less conspiratorial explanations for 327 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: this would be things ranging from you know, high tension 328 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: power lines too, UM, small earthquakes, electromagnetic radiation, high pressure 329 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: gas situations, UM, wireless communication devices, submarines even and then 330 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: one of my favorites again, these are all from this 331 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: wonderful Baltimore Sun article that you can find um what's 332 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: causing those weird trumpet noises in the sky by Debbie 333 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: Baker from May nineteen. My favorite and also Debbie's, is 334 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: the reverberating mating call of a male midshipman fish which 335 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: looks a lot like remember muddy mud skipper from ren 336 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: and Stimpy, This sort of weird, legless, kind of maccab 337 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: looking fish that can like flop around on the on 338 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: the ground. Yeah, totally, yeah, it's and you know, there 339 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: have been lots of um debunkings of these. You know. Again, 340 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 1: to uh frog Daddy's point, there is a flaw in 341 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: a in a system. It just allows anybody to submit 342 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: this stuff. But but again it's not meant to it's 343 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: not meant for each submission to necessarily be considered valid. 344 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a database of a place where 345 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: people can submit these sounds and then you can compare them. 346 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: But apparently one couple according to this Baltimore Sun article, 347 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: um published one of these recordings onto YouTube and then 348 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: later admitted that she was simply just pointing her iPhone 349 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 1: out the window while her laptop was playing a creepy 350 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: sound in the background. UM. But then you know plenty 351 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: of these, like, for example, a couple who posted one 352 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: from Germany UH said that this is unequivocally something that 353 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: they actually experienced, and there's so many examples of it. 354 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: And again you hear the baseball commentators on that clip 355 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: that we played talking about it, like, what is that 356 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: It sounds supernatural? And it it truly does. UM, So 357 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I don't know, I'd be interested to hear 358 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: a little bit more of Frog Daddy's research. Sounds like 359 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: he's been digging into this for a while and UM 360 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: sort of falls under the purview of that great home 361 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: episode that we did UM, which has been a long time. 362 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: But I know that we definitely rattled off some potential 363 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: uh explanations for these types of sounds UH seismic events, UM, 364 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: pressurized gas and things like that. But it's it's super interesting, 365 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: and I'm you know, you know, I'm a big fan 366 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: of sound and weird sound transmissions in the way things 367 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: can be very deceiving depending on how they're bouncing around. Um. 368 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: But there's also a pretty cool Guardian article that literally 369 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: under the header has that image of these like angels 370 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: blasting trumpets, you know, from heaven. So it certainly is 371 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: something that people are talking about and hearing all over 372 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: the place. Um, where do we land guys with that? 373 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: That Tucson tho. Sonic booms just potentially some research that 374 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,239 Speaker 1: was going on that wasn't being reported. Aircraft, well, at 375 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: least according to one of our sources, there's there are 376 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: a few now uh likely a test aircraft that is 377 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: unbeknownst to anybody you know, officially operating both military and 378 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: private um airports there or stuff. They caused multiple sonic booms, 379 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: probably during re entry from a very high altitude. Yeah yeah, yeah. 380 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: And these are also what what we're describing here. These 381 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: are also known as sky quakes. You might hear that 382 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: as another word for sky trumpets. I think there's a 383 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: really interesting theory. I was gonna point this out, uh 384 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: but didn't they want to break the flow, But I 385 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: was gonna point out. I do think it is interesting 386 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: that the Baltimore Sun wrote about this because CME s 387 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: have been advanced as the cause of at least some 388 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: of these sounds. Uh CME coronal mass ejection a k a. 389 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: The thing that's gonna break human civilization one day, for 390 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: for a little while, not permanently, but it's definitely gonna 391 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: We're gonna civilization is gonna eat the pavement for for 392 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: a little while once the right CME heads at the 393 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: right time. But because they generate shock waves that are 394 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: really like they're similar in many ways to a sonic boom, 395 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: this solar wind could receivably create some sort of sound. 396 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: You know, the atmosphere is a dynamic thing, right, It's 397 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: always changing. We forget that there there's no vacuum right 398 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: in the Earth's atmosphere. It's full of stuff, and a 399 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: lot of it humans put there, but a lot of 400 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: it was it was already full of stuff in the beginning. 401 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: So Siamese could be something generating these sounds. But for 402 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: me from a folkloric perspective, and I think this is 403 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: really interesting. Can you imagine the role this could play 404 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: when you hear this in auspicious or inauspicious times. It 405 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: would be like eclipses before ancient civilizations learned to predict 406 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: them and I yeah, they can't really predict um seems 407 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: at this point in a way that most people would 408 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: be aware of. Right. We did some scary math about 409 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: how quickly they can hit the planet. That's that's the 410 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: other part anyhow. I just I wanted to bring that 411 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: out there because the folklore is fascinating. I bet you 412 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: could find ancient descriptions of sky trumpets. Um. They're even 413 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: wartime reports from like World War One, I believe, and 414 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: they're seen as supernatural or divine events. I tend to 415 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: believe that it's something more natural like that then connected 416 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: to more modern technology. I think for that exact reason 417 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: that I think it's something that we've heard reports of 418 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: throughout history. Uh, that it's probably something to do with 419 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: like shifting seismic activity or these sky quakes that you're 420 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: you're mentioning. That so something that's not necessarily tied to 421 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: like some sort of modern innovation. Guys, you're so close. 422 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you exactly what this is. Let's down, Maddie, 423 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: this is what I need you to do. Guys. Ready, 424 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna do an experiment. Everybody close your eyes if 425 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: you can, unless you're driving, Unless you're driving, every sitting 426 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: in a room. Man, oh you mean everybody? Okay, okay, okay, everybody, 427 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: Let's close our eyes listen to this ound. And I 428 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: think this is the sky trumpet. I think that's it's 429 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: that from more of the worlds the world. But I 430 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: have verified so many video clips online that say sky 431 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: trumpet or whatever, whatever, whatever, and it is that clip. 432 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: Its sound design uses organic sound. I mean a good film, 433 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, we know that, like the t Rex roar 434 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: in Jurassic Park was the combination of like an elephant 435 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: in a walrush something like that. Like good sound design 436 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: uses naturally occurring sounds. That's what makes them hit, you know. 437 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: So I think that is probably a combination of like 438 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: sounds like a foghorn combined with like, you know, trumpets. Sorry, 439 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: get out, but hey, thanks frog Daddy Froggy daddy um 440 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: for writing into us about that. It's super interesting and 441 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: that we're all definitely you know, sonic enthusiasts here. So 442 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and then we'll be back 443 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: with another message from you. All right, we are back, 444 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 1: and we are jumping immediately to our voicemail lines for 445 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: a message. Here we go, gentlemen, you may call me 446 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: Nick Nabus Still Matt, men know the reason for my 447 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: call the strange things which we think are drones dying overhead, 448 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: mostly at night here where we dwell in central Nebraska. 449 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: We're somewhere around the Grand Island area, and we see 450 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: on a regular basis in the evenings numerous what we 451 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: believe to be drones flying in groups the majority of 452 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: the time, usually in grid patterns. It has made the 453 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: news in the area. However, there has never been an 454 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: actual explanation or a reasoning from the governing bodies as 455 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: to these flights. Rarely seen during the day, you can 456 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: hear them when they do fly overhead Light patterns are 457 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: different than that of an airplane, and the altitude is 458 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: also different. What I'm looking for from my fellow conspiracy realists, 459 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: it's some help, because we have seemed to come to 460 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: at that end here in Nebraska. I would love your 461 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: assistance on this, gentleman. Look forward to hearing from you. 462 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: Big fan of the show. Listen to all the episodes. 463 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, and keep your eyes to the sky. Okay, 464 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: now that has to send off skys Nick Nabisco, Tobisco, 465 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: Shreddy Wheat, best Cereal, many eats, many eats frosted, gotta 466 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: be shreddy wheat. I used to just come in these 467 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: big bricks, you know, and you just to smash it 468 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: up with your with your spoon and then like add 469 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, your topics. But then they shrunk it down 470 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: and uh coded it in glucose and sugar. That's right. 471 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: We do have to put out. Yeah, I love the 472 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: name Nick Nabisco. Whether or not if it's your real name, sir, 473 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: then the hats off, because that is an awesome name. 474 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: But there's also an awesome question. Man, it's one that 475 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: we have. One thing we can say for sure, I think, 476 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: just to set us up here, is that Nick, you 477 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: are far from the only person reporting this, as you know. 478 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: It's even hit regional news at different times. Not just 479 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: in Nebraska, man, I think, but in Colorado as well. Yeah, 480 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: made a whole episode out about this, Nick, and it 481 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: was in the news in January of There were a 482 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: ton of reports coming out of that sector. If you're 483 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: looking at the United States, there's Nebraska here and then 484 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: Colorado kind of meets up near the bottom part and 485 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: goes this way, and there are people tracking drones all 486 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: all the way across Nebraska going into Colorado, and I 487 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: think going back. The other direction was mostly traveling from 488 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: the Nebraska area west towards Colorado. Again, you can check 489 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: out our whole episode on that. Let me just give 490 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: you the title so you can look for it if 491 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: you'd like to. It was titled Colorado's Mystery Drones. Came 492 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: out in February, so if you want to get the background, 493 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: you can go check that out. You can also read 494 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: articles from all over the place. There's a New York 495 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: Times article titled It's creepy unexplained drones are swarming by 496 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 1: night over Colorado, and it goes into several parts of 497 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: Nebraska as well that we're reported to have night drones, 498 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: really creepy night drones, especially ones that hover over houses 499 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: at night and then just kind of continue on their journey. No, 500 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: thank you, What are they up to? Oh? No, what 501 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: are they building it up there? I can't do that reference, 502 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: So so I gave nikicle, talked to him a little 503 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: bit more, learned a bit about where he is, so 504 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: Grand Island, Nebraska. I put a link to this in 505 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: our dock here, guys, if you want to look at it. 506 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: It's about an hour drive west of Lincoln, Nebraska. Pretty 507 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: big city there again called Grand Island, and where Nick 508 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: lives is a place a little bit south called Hastings, 509 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: and he said they're in Hastings is where he has 510 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: personally seen these and also in a small town that's 511 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: just kind of southwest of Grand Island called Alda A L. 512 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: D A. He knows people there that have specifically seen them. 513 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: And Nick said, this is a weird thing because right now, 514 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: in and last year, it just wasn't spoken about much 515 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: in the news. It wasn't reported on much. A few 516 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: times here and there, but not really much. But if 517 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: you go to a local bar or hang out the 518 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: way we would do if we were in that city, 519 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: people are just talking about it all the time, like 520 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: what do you think that is? Man? What are they doing? 521 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: And they don't have intel. Bro. I've said this on 522 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: the show multiple times because there's all these opportunities to 523 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: kind of share this tale. But I was on tour 524 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: with the band the one time I've done like a 525 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: cross country tour, and we were driving across Nebraska. You know, 526 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: it was corn and stuff, and uh, I I saw 527 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: a thing. I saw this triangular shaped hovering kite looking thing, 528 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: but way too far off on the horizon um for 529 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: it to have been the size that I was experiencing 530 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: it as. And I got video of it on like 531 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: my little mini DV cam quarter that I had back 532 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: in the probably early two thousand's I think it was 533 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: probably like two thousand two. And um, I recently found 534 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: my bag oh DV tapes, so I want to go 535 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: through and like digitize those and see if that is 536 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: still on there. But um, interesting that all this talk 537 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: is coming out of Nebraska. I really feel like maybe 538 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: I saw one of these things. Maybe man Drone tech 539 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: has been around for quite a while now, and it's 540 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: only getting more and more sophisticated. Longer battery life, you know, 541 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: longer travel times and all that, uh and altitude, all 542 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: kinds of things are are being improved. And if you 543 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: think from twenty nineteen twenty twenty onward, this stuff has 544 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: been in a high operating level for quite a while. 545 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: I want to make one quick correction. I said Hastings 546 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: is where Nick lives. It's not Hastings. I think it's 547 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: called Donophan, which is between Hastings and Grand Island. Just 548 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: as for you, Nick and and everybody there, and Donophanum 549 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: shout out so um. He said, only a few people 550 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: have ever seen them during the day, and it's usually 551 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: only a single drone if it's during the day. So 552 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: that sounds to me like someone operating a drone, right, 553 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: getting some aerial footage. That's very common, especially here in 554 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: Atlanta and a couple of their places. I'm assuming out 555 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: in Nebraska there's some great filming locations, uh, where you 556 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: just want to get an overhead shot of that kind 557 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: of area. Might be that, But then for so many 558 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: at night, he said, it's um. The grid pattern is 559 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: really astounding when you watch it, when you just look 560 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: up and observe it, because you really can't tell. He said, 561 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: it sounds exactly like a prop plane, but like maybe 562 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: a little higher pitched, which is really what a drone 563 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: sounds like. And they always flying straight lines, he said, 564 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: so you can just watch them go across. Is that 565 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: Is that why they call them drones? Because of the 566 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: kind of drone e sound they make. I've always wondered that, 567 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't know who that question has ever been posed 568 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 1: on this show. I'm sure it's been posed by somebody. 569 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: Why is a drone called a drone? Well, the sound 570 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: is drone. E. It's like a steady pitch like a drone. 571 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: That's what a drone is. A drone as a you know, steady, 572 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: single note pitchy. I think it's it might even be 573 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: something going back to bees, because I do remember it 574 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: comes from it comes from written in the nineteen thirties. 575 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: I think these radio controlled aircraft as target practice like 576 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: smart smart skeet shooting basically. Um. But I think yeah, 577 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: it's related to hashtag, not Pete Davidson with a different 578 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: ski we're talking about, and not that ski we're talking 579 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: about sting. Yeah, yeah, let's not touch it. Let's not 580 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: touch it, let's move. Um. But I think it is 581 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: reasonable too to say that the etymology ultimately derives from 582 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: the sound drone and and the the idea of a drone. 583 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: B Um. But there's there's even more to this story. Now. 584 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: I know. I know you pretty well, madam. I remember 585 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: one of the first things that you suggested we do 586 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: when we were looking into mystery drones was just just 587 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: for the halibit, as they say in the old Sketch comedy, 588 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: going onto maps services and seeing what what nearby areas 589 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 1: if there's an air force base nearby, or if there's 590 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: something like that that's it's a really smart step, is 591 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: a smart initial step in any investigation like this. It 592 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: stands out to me from a Guardian article that you 593 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: pointed us to, is that these drones, in addition to 594 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: be mysteriously there for unknown reasons that we can only 595 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: guess at as the public, they also seem to have 596 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: a longer flight time, right almost as most of the 597 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: battery life is very finite socially an our max right. Yes, 598 00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: it does seem like government slash military grade hout of 599 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: your life kind of thing in one of these more 600 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: like one of these U a v S that you'd 601 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: have associated with military reconnaissance, you know, But that's many 602 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: of those are not this type of drone when you're 603 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: thinking about the like helicopter style drone, which is what 604 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: I think we're describing here, But that might not be it. 605 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: If you look at some of the some of the 606 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: drone tech that we've explored in the past, some of 607 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: them do have a propeller on the back and or 608 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: more airplane style, and perhaps that's what we're dealing with here. 609 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: So it would be a single prop as opposed to 610 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: a quad that we're used to with like commercial or 611 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: prosumer type drones. Yeah, I mean this is for video, 612 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: but um, if you imagine a helicopter in the way 613 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: the blades spin and how they're oriented spinning kind of around, 614 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: this would be more facing forward on probably the back 615 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: of the the vehicle, the unmanned vehicle, and it uses 616 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 1: that to propel itself forward and then the keeps lift 617 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: with its wings rather than just having the force that helicopter, 618 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: how does it cover if it doesn't have something up top, Well, 619 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: it's less of a hover. And again, think about what 620 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: we're seeing here. In most of these cases, we're seeing 621 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: drones in a in a grid pattern, flying in one direction. 622 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: We're traveling in one direction, and that sounds to me 623 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: more like one of these plane like U. A V. S. 624 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: I just want Ben, going back to the Guardian article 625 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: that you mentioned here, there was an entire task force 626 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: of various agencies that was put together in one to 627 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: try and figure out what these drones were. You know, 628 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: were they associated with some kind of illegal activity. There 629 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: were rumors back then that perhaps had something to do 630 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: with cannabis crop and production and delivery. There are there's 631 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: rumors about that. So you know, the FBI got involved. Seriously, 632 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: the FBI, the Air Force got involved in this task 633 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: force trying to figure out what it was. I don't know. 634 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: You can read that whole article if you want to. 635 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: You can check it out right now. It's titled Attack 636 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: of the Drones, The Mystery of Disappearing Swarms in the 637 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: US Midwest. He was published April, and at the point 638 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: out here it's titled Disappearing Swarms because once that task 639 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: force came through and actually started looking into this, the 640 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 1: drones appeared to not be flying like they were anymore. 641 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: But now we're getting a call from Nick in two 642 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: in March saying, yeah, there's still drones all over the place. 643 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm really glad that the author of the Guardian article, 644 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: who is let's give it a shout out to Amelia Tate. 645 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm really glad that Tate also notes something that stuck 646 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: out to me and I think stuck out to all 647 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: of us. On the earlier Vice examination, the author writing 648 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: for Vice on this phenomenon attributed the majority, if not 649 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,959 Speaker 1: the entirety, of these sightings to hysteria. And that does 650 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: that does play a role, you know, that's part of 651 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: the flying saucer craze that went through the US and 652 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: parts of the world. People here reports that allow them 653 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: to kind of have a framework for what they witnessed before, 654 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 1: and that sure that can happen, that that's only can happen. 655 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: But the investigation itself, which was the multi agency endeavor, 656 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: it was unable to explain a minority of those sightings. 657 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: I think four and they mentioned in the Guardian article 658 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: and similar to the U. A. P. Research that the 659 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: Pentagon put out earlier. Uh, but you should be you 660 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: should be interested in those four. We shouldn't be collectively 661 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: quick to dismiss the sightings of various people entirely as 662 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: hysteria or what Jonathan Strickland would call made him up 663 00:41:52,760 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: seats because I'm purposeful. Hoaxes do happen. Misidentification definitely happens, 664 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: but it's intellectually lazy. I would argue to dismiss everything 665 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: as hysteria out of hand unless you really really dig in. 666 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: And I love that you pointed out the timing there 667 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: to Matt it's maybe it's just that coincidence, like when 668 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: someone takes their car to the mechanic and it's not 669 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: making that noise anymore. And you just sound like you're 670 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: accidentally beatboxing when you describe it, you know, like you 671 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like maybe, but that timing is 672 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 1: really suspicious. And there's also I think this is maybe 673 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: something that we're noticing too that you may notice. To 674 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: Nick Nabisco, Uh, it is entirely possible that people just 675 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: aren't reporting this in official news outlets right like maybe 676 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: the news cycle has moved on. It doesn't necessarily mean 677 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: there's a cover up, but that I think, coupled with 678 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: the timing of the disappear earn some of the drones 679 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: fascinating stuff. And Nick, I do hope you get a 680 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: chance to listen to the drones episode that Matt mentioned, 681 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: because it's a good setup. It could use an update. 682 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 1: It's a good sew. And just to chime in really 683 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: quick on the etymological question that I posed, the term 684 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: drone was originally used in Old English to refer to 685 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: the male be uh and specifically it was almost like 686 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: a disk, because the male bee's only job was to 687 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: like idle around and like mate, and so drone became 688 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: a stand in for lazy people and then was eventually 689 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: also used as a verb to describe a monotone buzzing 690 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 1: sound as well. So it's like chicken or the egg 691 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: kind of thing be or the drone. I have to say, guys. 692 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: I talked to Nick. He believes it, he's seen it. 693 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: I believe him. So I've seen it. I mean I 694 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: really have. I really did see a thing. It was. 695 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: You know, the horizon line is very it's very flat 696 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 1: there in in Nebraska, and I was in a van 697 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: and I was we were passing through these cornfields and 698 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: I saw this kind of triangular hovering thing off in 699 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 1: the distance, and of course I was like, that's definitely 700 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: a UFO. But now they of course updated that to 701 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: U a p UM to encompass all of these types 702 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: of technological advancements that maybe we're not fully clued in on. 703 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: But um, I want to see if I can dig 704 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: this tape up, because I swear to God, I want 705 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: to show you guys, because I did capture it and 706 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: I've watched it. I just got to see if I 707 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: actually still have it. Yeah, let me know when you 708 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: find it. And just to put in to put in 709 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: my um, I'll call it my fifty cents due to inflation. 710 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: To put in my fifty cents here, we are all convinced. 711 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: I am definitely convinced that there are weird night drones 712 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: in not just Nebraska, but in Colorado as well. Simply 713 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: too many people are reporting them. And it's not just 714 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, one person on the fringes of society. These 715 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: are regular people. These are intelligent people, These are learned people, 716 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: and in many cases the are people who are drone 717 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: operators themselves, so they would be more than qualified to 718 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: ask these questions and more than qualified to say that 719 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: something is abnormal. So we know that there's something going 720 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: on up there in the skies. We just need to 721 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: figure out what the motivation is, uh, and whether there 722 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: is you know, it's just testing whether there is a UM. 723 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: What was one of the possibilities we had a nighttime 724 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: surveillance network, which is a really clever thing to do 725 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: with drones. Uh. There are a couple of very very 726 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: credible explanations here, and I wish that I understand the 727 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: necessity for secrecy and classification in some cases, but I 728 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: wish that government agencies, if any are involved in this initiative, 729 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: would just understand that if you don't want people to 730 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: make wild speculation about whatever you're doing, then be a 731 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: little more transparent when you can't just a little, because yeah, 732 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,879 Speaker 1: because speculations rives in the absence of transparency. That's that's 733 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: my take on it. But also, you know, that's a 734 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: take I think a lot of us can agree with, 735 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: not just the one and only Nick Nabisco again, I 736 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: love your name, man, but also the man, the midth Legend, 737 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: Frog Daddy, as well as E and E ads. We 738 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: have we have yet again chipped away a little bit 739 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: at our trove, our our vast store of communications from you, 740 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: fellow conspiracy realist. Have you been on the government secret Internet? 741 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: Is it cool? Or is it like? Is it like Facebook? 742 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No being on Facebook? Like like, 743 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,760 Speaker 1: what's the demo? What's the how would you rate the memes? 744 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: What do you think the night drones are doing out 745 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: there in Nebraska? What do you think by the timing 746 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: of that study Matt mentioned? What do you think about 747 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: sky trumpets? You know? And I can't wait because we're 748 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: going to get I guarantee you guys, We're going to 749 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: get one of us out there is gonna is gonna 750 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: send in some amazing fart jokes. And I'm not mad. 751 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: I am here for it. You know, Yeah, that's my contration. 752 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: It's a different like, what if those guys at that 753 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: baseball game clip we've played, it's always the color commentator, right, 754 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: What if the color commentator was just like slowly farting 755 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: the whole time that jeez, someone closed the door. Huh 756 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: sounds almost super central, more like open a window? Am 757 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: I right? When the door closes? But window opens a 758 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: window of communication. We can't wait to hear from you. 759 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: Take a page from e Nick Nibisco. I'm frog Daddy, 760 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,439 Speaker 1: and I have to keep saying your name like that. 761 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: That's such a cool name, and uh reach out. We 762 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: try to be easy to find online. Oh boy, are 763 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: we ever easy? You can find us on Facebook, you 764 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter. You can find us on 765 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 1: YouTube under the handle Conspiracy Stuff. On Instagram, we are 766 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: Conspiracy Stuff Show. But wait, there's more. S Use your 767 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: phone for its intended purpose. 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