WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Is Mingo a Bingo?

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome in, everybody. We've got a Talking Tuesday eight eight

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<v Speaker 3>My question going into the day was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>should Cowboys be buyers or sellers in.

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<v Speaker 5>Today's trade deadline?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as of a couple moments ago, it appears we've

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<v Speaker 3>found out at least semi directional minutes ago, literally as

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<v Speaker 3>we were in the studio this breaks. I mean Jerry

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<v Speaker 3>Jones on one to five three, the fan. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Nosey Walker, Josh Roderiguez, Chrispian. By the way, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle Yeomans, Jerry Jones on one to five three, the Fan,

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<v Speaker 3>the flagship station for your Dallas Cowboys said we're trading

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<v Speaker 3>for a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>He said it, and then since then, multiple reports have

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<v Speaker 3>now surfaced that the Cowboys have traded with the Carolina Panthers.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, so that's the breaking news coming in. Jerry set

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<v Speaker 7>it up in a few minutes after he hung up

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<v Speaker 7>with one five three the Fan. The deal was being

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<v Speaker 7>reported by multiple outlets. Tom Pellicero of NFL Network and

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<v Speaker 7>Ian Rappaport breaking the initial news. Jonathan Mingle is reportedly

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<v Speaker 7>headed to Dallas from Charlotte. Jonathan Mingle will be accompanied

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<v Speaker 7>in his carry on with a twenty twenty five seventh

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<v Speaker 7>round pick that the Panthers are also included in the package,

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<v Speaker 7>and the Cowboys are set to send a twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 7>five fourth round pick in exchange for that package.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where we are right now.

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<v Speaker 7>That ties into the news that as we have a

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<v Speaker 7>wide receiver coming in to hopefully help the Cowboys offense,

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<v Speaker 7>they're losing their franchise quarterback for a minimum of four games.

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<v Speaker 7>That Prescott is likely to head two injured reserve per

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<v Speaker 7>Jerry Jones, which means he will not be eligible to

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<v Speaker 7>return until December ninth at the earliest, which is versus

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<v Speaker 7>the Cincinnati Bengals. And we've already talked about this four

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<v Speaker 7>game gauntlet that they're about to go up against. Per

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<v Speaker 7>Mike McCarthy, he was unequivocal in what the QB rotation

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<v Speaker 7>will be against Philly and going forward it will be

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<v Speaker 7>Cooper Rush as the starter. Trey Lance is going to

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<v Speaker 7>be your number two. So a lot of moving pieces

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<v Speaker 7>there for the Cowboys offense heading into Week ten.

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<v Speaker 3>So just to clean it all up, Jonathan Mingo and

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<v Speaker 3>the seventh router rounder coming from Carolina to Dallas, and

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<v Speaker 3>you exchange a fourth round pick for that, so you

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<v Speaker 3>basically pick swap a fourth and seventh round pick. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not an easy pick swamp, but you get Jonathan Mingo, who,

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<v Speaker 3>as he walks in the building today and the current

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<v Speaker 3>state of this Dallas Cowboys roster will be your wide

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<v Speaker 3>receiver two.

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<v Speaker 5>That is what you just traded for as a wide

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<v Speaker 5>receiver two, a future wide receiver too as well, young

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<v Speaker 5>wide receiver two.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, well, he's contractually speaking for those that are wondering,

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<v Speaker 7>and I know you are because you love the science

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<v Speaker 7>like we. So this is a young man who's still

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<v Speaker 7>on his rookie deal. This is only the second year

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<v Speaker 7>of his rookie deal, so he's contracted through twenty twenty six. Shit,

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<v Speaker 7>the Cowboys keep him throughout the rest of that deal.

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<v Speaker 7>So this is you talk about Brandon Cooks, who is

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<v Speaker 7>eligible to see his twenty one day window activated on

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<v Speaker 7>tomorrow Wednesday's practice. But Brandon Cooks is an unrestricted free

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<v Speaker 7>agent after this season. Trading for Jonathan Mingo, you guarantee

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<v Speaker 7>the WR two situation opposite Ceede Lamb beyond January, February

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<v Speaker 7>or December, whenever this season ends.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, when we were talking about it, we were talking

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<v Speaker 8>about a potential trade at wide receiver a few weeks back,

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<v Speaker 8>when we were still sort of.

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<v Speaker 5>That was the one you wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 8>That was the one that I wanted to do because

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<v Speaker 8>even with Brandon Cooks in the mix, I felt like

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<v Speaker 8>a wide receiver, an actual clear cut wide receiver to

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<v Speaker 8>an actual threat on the outside, gives you a chance

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<v Speaker 8>and we'll be able to open up the run. I think,

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<v Speaker 8>at least for now. You look at Rico doing good

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<v Speaker 8>things behind this line. He was averaging over six yards

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<v Speaker 8>of carry last week, even though it resulted in a loss.

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<v Speaker 8>I think they're starting to find some footing in the

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<v Speaker 8>running game. Now that you have an actual threat on

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<v Speaker 8>the outside, it opens it up even more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I like the trade.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe a little too rich for my taste, sure, but ultimately,

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<v Speaker 8>like Patrick said, you have him under contract until twenty

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<v Speaker 8>twenty six, So now.

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<v Speaker 5>That is your clear cut wide receiver too, Yeah, clear cut.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a twenty twenty three second round pick, and

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<v Speaker 3>I went back into my notes, I had a fourth

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<v Speaker 3>round grade on him. So they went a little bit high.

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<v Speaker 3>Carolina did in drafting him in the second round, but

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<v Speaker 3>there were a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Of individuals around the league that had him as a.

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<v Speaker 1>Top sixty player.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I had him where'd I have him at overall? I

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<v Speaker 3>had him at one twenty four overall in that draft class,

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<v Speaker 3>which I guess now hindsight site twenty twenty he was

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<v Speaker 3>on a bad football team, but I think one twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four in a fourth round grade was.

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<v Speaker 5>Right around where I would have valued.

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Mingo and what he's done so far in the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL forty three receptions, four hundred and eighteen yards. He

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<v Speaker 3>did not have a single touchdown his rookie year, then

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty four. This year, as a twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>year old, he has twelve receptions one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one yards and no touchdowns as well, He's yet to

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<v Speaker 3>catch a touchdown pass in the NFL during a regular

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<v Speaker 3>season game. So, like I said, that's a bad football team.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a bad offense. And he kind of got

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<v Speaker 3>buried in the depth chart because they went out and

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<v Speaker 3>grabbed guys like Adam Thielen. And there's another name there

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<v Speaker 3>in Carolina that I'm blanking on currently. But there are

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<v Speaker 3>bad football teams who really cares. The thing about Jonathan

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<v Speaker 3>Mingo is that he does present a steady hand in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of the wide receiver position that.

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<v Speaker 5>You haven't necessarily had without Brandon Cooks in the fold.

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<v Speaker 7>Correct, But here's my problem with it, And I think

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<v Speaker 7>Mingo has potential. Two things are true. I believe he

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<v Speaker 7>has potential. I believe this is too rich for my blood,

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<v Speaker 7>A great on the fourth round pick. I believe this

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<v Speaker 7>is an overpay. And I believe this is an overpaid

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<v Speaker 7>driven by a sense of desperation, whether the front office

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<v Speaker 7>will admit it or not. Because you're three and five,

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<v Speaker 7>you're coming off your third consecutive loss. You haven't won

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<v Speaker 7>a home and now your next home game is against

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<v Speaker 7>the Philadelphia Eagles. You're heading into this four game gauntlet.

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<v Speaker 7>You lose, well, you might lose wide receiver one. He's

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<v Speaker 7>likely to play, but he's not healthy at all. He's

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<v Speaker 7>far below healthy. And then Dak Prescott, you lose your

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<v Speaker 7>franchise quarterback for minimum four games. Things just spiraling, right,

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<v Speaker 7>So I think the Panthers knew that, and Panthers said, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>you're going to have to overpay if you want to

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<v Speaker 7>get Jonathan Mingo. So again, the potential is there when

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<v Speaker 7>you look at you know what he was unable to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And like you said, Kyle, it's your accurate.

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<v Speaker 7>The Panthers are a bad team and they were a

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<v Speaker 7>bad offense. The Cowboys right now are a bad team

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<v Speaker 7>and the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a bad offense.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah yeah, okay, So you're giving up a fourth round

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<v Speaker 7>pick for a guy to take a shot on it.

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<v Speaker 7>You had to take a shot on the guy who's

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<v Speaker 7>who wasn't able to produce on a bad offense, which

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<v Speaker 7>and I say that because he has to be thrown

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<v Speaker 7>the ball by quality quarterback and things have to happen.

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<v Speaker 5>He is one of those there, which is or here,

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<v Speaker 5>which is.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice, which is fair.

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<v Speaker 8>In Carolina is up for debate, right and say that.

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<v Speaker 7>To say kind of segue back to what I said yesterday,

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<v Speaker 7>which was and this is again, this is not a

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<v Speaker 7>shot at Mango. Again, I believe he has potential. But

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<v Speaker 7>even if this was a blockbuster trade, the blockbuster trade

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't fix nearly as many issues as you need repaired

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<v Speaker 7>in order for the season to get back on track.

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<v Speaker 7>So where you're going to need is Jonathan Mingo or

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<v Speaker 7>someone you know of a higher caliber. And then you're

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<v Speaker 7>still going to need to fix the penalties, and you're

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<v Speaker 7>still going to need to fix your red zone issues,

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<v Speaker 7>and you're still going to need to fix your takeaway

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<v Speaker 7>issues or your lack of takeaways on defense, and you

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<v Speaker 7>need to fix your mistackles, and you need to fix

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<v Speaker 7>your execution, and you need to fix some of the

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<v Speaker 7>play calling.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of this needs to be fixed.

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<v Speaker 7>So when Jerry Jones told one O five three to

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<v Speaker 7>the fan this morning that the move before the news

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<v Speaker 7>came up, the move, that it would be a receiver

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<v Speaker 7>and maybe like quote unquote, a storybook type move, we

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<v Speaker 7>read two different types of storybooks because this, this is

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<v Speaker 7>a move, it's a quality move. I agree with the move,

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<v Speaker 7>I disagree with the compensation for it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm there with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But even on its face, this doesn't hit storybook for me.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, the Cowboys still have until three pm Central time

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<v Speaker 7>for today's deadline to make an additional movie that maybe fits.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they're traded for another Witers maybe, But it just

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<v Speaker 3>gave it a fourth So now what are you giving them?

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I mean?

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<v Speaker 7>So also, they're kind of passing out fourth run like

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<v Speaker 7>and I get it compensatory formula as well, so they're

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<v Speaker 7>banking on getting some of these back. So that's in

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<v Speaker 7>the mix as well. It's it's more chess than Checkers.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, I mean, I'm I don't have a problem

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<v Speaker 7>fourth too. Yeah, I don't have a problem with the move.

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<v Speaker 7>I do have a problem with the compensation. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>like you said, Caw, this is also a future move.

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<v Speaker 7>This is a future proof move.

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<v Speaker 8>It solidifies the wide receiver corps for the next couple

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<v Speaker 8>of years at least, and especially with the you know,

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<v Speaker 8>you have Kvante Turpin out there. Who's I mean, just

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<v Speaker 8>the wide receiver corps that you have. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 8>are deficiencies. There obviously deficiencies in the run blocking deficiencies

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<v Speaker 8>and you know, uh, receiving, actually catching the ball downfield.

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<v Speaker 8>I think some players are playing out of play, out

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<v Speaker 8>of position at the moment, and at least you solidify

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<v Speaker 8>that wide receiver too. Yet again, just to reiterate that point,

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's a solid move, too.

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<v Speaker 4>Rich.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is not the twenty eighteen Cowboys at three

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<v Speaker 3>and four going into Monday Football against the Tennessee Titans

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<v Speaker 3>and trading for Amri Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what this is.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a let's give this guy who's twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>years old, who was a second round pick out of

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<v Speaker 3>Ole miss give him a shot to find his footing

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<v Speaker 3>in Dallas as opposed to elsewhere. Because Carolina is selling pieces.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna they're going to continue to be bad for.

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<v Speaker 5>The for the foreseeable future, and they're going to sell

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<v Speaker 5>some of their their.

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<v Speaker 3>High end pieces as the years go along and continue

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<v Speaker 3>to try and stack up draft picks. So Dallas looks

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<v Speaker 3>at it and says, hey, we're going to try and

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<v Speaker 3>pick swap. We've got a seventh coming back here. But

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<v Speaker 3>if it was a fifth, I think I would be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit exciting, indeed more because if we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>middle day two picks, you're trying to set up a

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver two on your roster for the future by

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<v Speaker 3>all means, all right, sounds good, but a fourth round

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<v Speaker 3>pick is a premium.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick, Jonathan Mingo, So that that's where I get.

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<v Speaker 5>Stuck, and I get it. There's probably some.

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<v Speaker 8>Some who's drafting the fourth round for those I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, Yeah, there's some some pause on who's cow How

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys use that fourth round pick in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>How have they used it in the past. Well, they

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<v Speaker 3>used it last year on Trey Lance. A couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years prior, they used it on Jake Ferguson.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Tree Lance thing. Do you see what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're throwing it out there a couple of different times.

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<v Speaker 3>So they obviously don't have a huge respect for that

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<v Speaker 3>fourth round pick, and they're gonna go try and find

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<v Speaker 3>a wide receiver too if you had.

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<v Speaker 8>You're counting on compicks though, to be fair, absolutely depends who,

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<v Speaker 8>depends where they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, My thought process is which that you won't have

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<v Speaker 3>a fourth round picked.

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<v Speaker 1>It's difficult to get I mean, the fourth round cap.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a high compa. That's the Yeah, maybe Tyrone Smith.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe No, I don't think he's Yeah, his deal is not.

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<v Speaker 5>Big enough for I didn't think so either. Yeah, trying

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<v Speaker 5>to think of who even would be there. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think they have one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>But my thought process is, if you're going into April's

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<v Speaker 3>draft and we're on the draft show and we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it and there's not a move made today and

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<v Speaker 3>you have that fourth round.

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<v Speaker 5>Pick, would you be okay using that fourth round pick

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<v Speaker 5>to get your wide receiver too?

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<v Speaker 7>And that that's an excellent way of framing it, because

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<v Speaker 7>that's basically they're looking at it.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's how they're looking.

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<v Speaker 7>Because they have several years left on this particular deal. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>the caveat is is you don't have four years of Mingo,

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<v Speaker 7>you have two and a half. But the framing is correct.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have the film of him being in the

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<v Speaker 3>NFL seeing what he can do. So I feel confident

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<v Speaker 3>in them saying, hey, we've seen something that we feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we can bring out of this guy and we

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<v Speaker 3>can put him in a decent offense.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, there's a lot to work on in this offense.

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<v Speaker 3>But when Dak Prescott comes back, Jonathan Mingo is going

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<v Speaker 3>to benefit significantly over guys like Bryce Young. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the last time the Cowboys were missing maybe Cooper Rush

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<v Speaker 3>and Dak Prescott, you had Andy Dolton back there.

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<v Speaker 7>Too, But maybe maybe he benefits greatly. And I say

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<v Speaker 7>that because let's just shoot it straight. Before Dak went down,

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<v Speaker 7>the offense was strug The offense was struggling in the

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<v Speaker 7>red zone. They were not struggling to move the ball.

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<v Speaker 7>They could move the ball, but once they got to

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<v Speaker 7>the opponent's thirty and then the red zone, things the

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<v Speaker 7>wheels will fall off. Okay, they are struggling with chunk

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<v Speaker 7>plays mightily.

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<v Speaker 1>They could not. They cannot get chunk plays.

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<v Speaker 8>Even when the ball was in the right right.

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<v Speaker 7>Defenses are playing too high safety because they're basically daring

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<v Speaker 7>CD Lamb to right. So now ceede Lamb. He's battling

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<v Speaker 7>the spring to the ac joint. We'll see how he feels,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, by the time Dak gets back. But CD

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<v Speaker 7>apparently isn't taking any time to rest. So how can

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<v Speaker 7>you heal if you're still getting hit on that shoulder?

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<v Speaker 7>So CD might not be one hundred percent when Dak

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<v Speaker 7>comes back that will need to work his way back.

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<v Speaker 7>It'll be December. What will the record be at that point?

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<v Speaker 7>Can Cooper rush stave off? You know, a possible three

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<v Speaker 7>or four game losing streak on addition to the three,

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<v Speaker 7>which makes it a six or seven game losing streak.

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<v Speaker 7>All these things have to come together and be perfect

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<v Speaker 7>so that when Manko comes back. Schematically, things have to

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<v Speaker 7>be better. Execution has to be better in order for

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<v Speaker 7>the offense to take off, for it to matter this year. Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>that mingle is here, because otherwise we're talking about it

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<v Speaker 7>mattering for next year.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think this is a this year man and

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<v Speaker 3>that that is exactly and which is why I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to give up a fourth round pick for it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's where the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where the conversation as I have a problem with

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<v Speaker 3>what they gave up. And now, like I said, if

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<v Speaker 3>you frame it in the context of in the next

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<v Speaker 3>two years you have a wide receiver two and you

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<v Speaker 3>use the fourth round pick to get there, great, But

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<v Speaker 3>if you're talking about future potential and you're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>a guy who's young like that, I would rather do

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<v Speaker 3>a fifth round pick and a pick swap. With my

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<v Speaker 3>seventh at least you still have the same number of

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<v Speaker 3>darts to throw at the dark board because you flip picks.

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<v Speaker 3>But a fourth round pick is that's that's a heavy

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<v Speaker 3>price to ye for a guy who's probably not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a game changer in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 8>Specifically, he's great a ninetieth out of ninety one wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take our first pick.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we are going to take our first break because

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to talk to Cowboys nation eight eight

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<v Speaker 3>eight eight five two two nine seven. The Cowboys trade

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<v Speaker 3>for Jonathan Mingo. Do you want them to sell at

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<v Speaker 3>the deadline too? If we we knock this one off

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<v Speaker 3>as a future compensation move.

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<v Speaker 5>This is something for the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you rather the Cowboys be buyers or sellers at

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<v Speaker 3>the trade deadline?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you like to share with the class, Josh Rodriguez,

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<v Speaker 3>which you just you just enlightened us too, And I

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<v Speaker 3>think everybody probably has already looked at this.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the dolls just want to put it on the airwaves, right.

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<v Speaker 8>The Dallas Cowboys, uh gave more. I'm sorry, they paid

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<v Speaker 8>more than they acquired.

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<v Speaker 2>What what what?

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<v Speaker 8>I completely botched it.

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<v Speaker 7>They gave up more to they gave acquire Mangle than

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<v Speaker 7>they acquired by sending the Mark Cooper to Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 8>Gy put me on the spot and wait what did

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<v Speaker 8>I it's the stage fright for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 7>Literally just like I said, I just said it as

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<v Speaker 7>the lights of the camera.

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<v Speaker 3>Loving it up for Josh because he just said it

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<v Speaker 3>like right before we went on air.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, like wow, great love that. Yeah, this guy

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<v Speaker 5>voted this morning in America. I'm glad we can still

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<v Speaker 5>laugh that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Cowboys acquire Jonathan Mingle for more draft capital than

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<v Speaker 3>what they got in return from G. B.

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you know great book?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know?

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<v Speaker 9>Not?

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<v Speaker 1>Great?

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<v Speaker 3>Both?

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<v Speaker 1>The more you know? So yeah, yeah, out on the

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<v Speaker 1>compensation for this one.

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<v Speaker 7>This is just too rich. But let's see what the

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<v Speaker 7>coupleys nation thinks about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Eight eight eight eight five five.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what they think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Two two nine seven eight eight eight eight five five

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<v Speaker 3>two two nine seven Talking Tuesday, Chris Beane, Do we

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<v Speaker 3>have anybody on the line back there?

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<v Speaker 1>Not yet?

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<v Speaker 5>Not yet?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh no, it is talking talking to.

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<v Speaker 1>It is no man. No, we got a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>say it with the chest when you come on in eight.

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<v Speaker 5>Eight eight eight five five two two nine seven give

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<v Speaker 5>us a call.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, but while we're waiting on the phone lines

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<v Speaker 3>to start ringing, Uh, Patrick, you mentioned I R possibly

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<v Speaker 3>for Dak. Were there any other takeaways from Jerry?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, as a matter of fact, it was so Dak

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<v Speaker 7>likely hit it to IR and then you got CD

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<v Speaker 7>likely to be available against the Eagles. Will see how

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<v Speaker 7>things play out in practice. Ezekiel Elliott is also likely

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<v Speaker 7>to be available versus the Eagles, per Jerry Jones to

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<v Speaker 7>the fan, and we will see what that means, because

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<v Speaker 7>being available and being active are two different things entirely.

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<v Speaker 7>But what that statement does tell me and the rest

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<v Speaker 7>of Cowboys Nation who were wondering, is that the future

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<v Speaker 7>of Ezekiel Elliott as far as the remainder of this

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<v Speaker 7>season appears to be in Dallas, right, So there was

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<v Speaker 7>some people wondering if the team discipline situation would escalate

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<v Speaker 7>to possibly a release in the two part ways again,

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<v Speaker 7>but that does not seem to be the case at all.

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<v Speaker 7>Mike McCarthy and Jerry Jones are pretty much in locksteup

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<v Speaker 7>as far as Ezekiel Elliott. Sounds like whatever conversations they

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<v Speaker 7>had after that situation, everybody's back on the same page.

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<v Speaker 7>So now the question for Zeke just becomes will will

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<v Speaker 7>they make him active on Sunday? And if they do,

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<v Speaker 7>does that mean Dalvin Cook is not elevated the third time?

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<v Speaker 7>And if Dalvin Cook is and Zeke is active, Like,

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<v Speaker 7>how do you work that? Because Rico Dwudle just showed

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<v Speaker 7>you once again that he can produce at a strong

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<v Speaker 7>level if you continue to give him the ball for momentum.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, that was another big takeaway is Zeke is

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<v Speaker 7>likely to be all set for Philly, good for the

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<v Speaker 7>game against Philly, but we'll see if he if he's

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<v Speaker 7>made inactive or.

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<v Speaker 3>No good news he I mean, despite what has happened

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<v Speaker 3>recently with Zeke.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a legend in these uniforms.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's a legend for the Cowboys, and what

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<v Speaker 3>he's done throughout his career, you never want to see

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<v Speaker 3>it in the way that it could have ended if

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<v Speaker 3>they cut ties and keep him out and inactive and

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it may be. So he's got a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a redemption opportunity this week, and I hope he takes

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<v Speaker 3>advantage of it. And for again, I mean we've said

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<v Speaker 3>it on these airways before. As much as we're analytical

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<v Speaker 3>and we're critical of this team and their performance, it

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<v Speaker 3>would be a lot better if they just played well.

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<v Speaker 5>So I would love for Zeke to have some success.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be so much more fun to cheer for

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<v Speaker 3>Zeke as opposed to analyze what they can do elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 7>Cowboys fans are really giving their feedback on Twitter right now,

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<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you that, man, because.

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<v Speaker 5>You know I'm not even on it right now.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm only just checking to see what the comings

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<v Speaker 7>are for talking Cowboys so people know that they need

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<v Speaker 7>and voice.

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<v Speaker 3>Isaiah said he's trying to give a call in. By

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<v Speaker 3>the way, we got we got a busy tone.

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<v Speaker 5>Currently.

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<v Speaker 7>Somebody asked which story book is it Lord of the Flies.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh gosh, let's I want to go through the comments section.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go to Nebby and Silver Spring, Maryland. Nebbe our guy,

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<v Speaker 5>what's going on? Nebby?

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<v Speaker 11>Uh uh uh uh uh Hi, guys, thank you so

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<v Speaker 11>much for taking my call. I really appreciate it definitely. Uh, Kyle.

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<v Speaker 11>I want to start off by saying, I want to

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<v Speaker 11>thank you so much for the compliment you gave me

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<v Speaker 11>last week when you said uh uh uh uh that

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<v Speaker 11>I said this football team. Well, I really appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 11>so thank you so much. And I also want to

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<v Speaker 11>preach patients because I know our offensive line is struggling

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<v Speaker 11>right now, but I'm really excited about and I am

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<v Speaker 11>very high on these two guys. And that is our

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<v Speaker 11>two rookies on our offensive line, Tyler Guidon and Cooper BB.

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<v Speaker 11>And I'm especially excited about Cooper BB because he can

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<v Speaker 11>just mall whoever is across from him. And I really

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 11>hope that these two guys, but especially Cooper BB, I

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<v Speaker 11>hope that they will be members of this Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 11>roster for a long long time. And one last quick

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<v Speaker 11>thing before I go, and that is even though I

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<v Speaker 11>know this is probably not going to happen. I would

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<v Speaker 11>like to see more abduced fun on the field because,

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<v Speaker 11>as I've said before in the past, I really think

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<v Speaker 11>that to fight his lack of size, if you were

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<v Speaker 11>to get fifteen touches a game, I really think that

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<v Speaker 11>he would do really, really well for us. Take care,

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 11>Thank you so much for being patient with me, and

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<v Speaker 11>have a great week.

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<v Speaker 3>By another great call, Navi. Appreciate you as always. Nebby's

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 3>a true fan for real, and he does. He dissects

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<v Speaker 3>the team. I meant what I said last week, and

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 3>he says it again here. I am also very high

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 3>on the rookies on this offensive line, and this offensive

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 3>line is a problem. It's a It is not playing

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<v Speaker 3>well right now. But it's not because of the rookies.

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you a little secret. It's the guys

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 3>on the right side of the line of scrimmage that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's not a secret.

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<v Speaker 5>That is not a secret, not anymore.

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 11>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the guys you didn't expect to be struggling. Zach Martin,

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Terrence Steele, You're too big.

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<v Speaker 5>Money guys up front. Neither one of them are playing.

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't even want to say adequate football. They're both

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<v Speaker 3>being they're both bad right now.

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 8>It's hurting the off film line bad.

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<v Speaker 5>It's hurting the run game.

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<v Speaker 8>It's hurting the offensive line, and and you're risking the

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<v Speaker 8>health of Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's it's disappointing to see. But hopefully they now

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<v Speaker 8>that you have a little more solidified run game, I

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 8>think that's going to improve. Not that finally had like,

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<v Speaker 8>all right, this is the guy. Rico's the guy.

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<v Speaker 7>The problem is you can't know that until you know

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.479
<v Speaker 7>that because Pittsburgh, he had a career day and then

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 7>he was shelled Okay at the goal line. Fine, other

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 7>than that, had a career day, Okay, then he was shelled.

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:24.400
<v Speaker 7>Now he has another great day, average just under seven

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 7>yards per carry against the Falcons.

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't sit here and tell you that he'll be.

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<v Speaker 7>Given the same number of handoffs when the Philadelphia Eagles

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<v Speaker 7>come to town, because.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 7>There's this whole roller coaster of a ride with the

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 7>running back by committee situation. And I see why Mike

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 7>McCarthy doesn't, quote unquote he doesn't like it as a

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 7>play caller because there's no you don't know who the

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 7>guy is. Even if you know who the guy is,

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 7>it's it's maddening.

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 8>We all know who the guy is. Like at this point,

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 8>what are we? What are we doing?

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:54.120
<v Speaker 1>That's a valid question.

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 7>Now take that question and smear it all over.

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<v Speaker 1>A man.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go to Dylan in north Port, Florida. Dylan, you're

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 5>back on talking cowboys. What's going on?

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 12>Hey, you guys ask the question sellers or buyers the

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 12>trade deadline? I'm self self sell all the way. I'm

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 12>in pure evaluation mode at this point. To me, as

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 12>a fan, I think the seasons just about over, you know.

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.640
<v Speaker 12>Putting on my GM cap, I want to evaluate these

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 12>guys as much as possible to know, especially the young

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 12>guys like a Deuce Fawn. I think this running back

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 12>room is going to be gutt in next year. I

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 12>understand that are our boys going to give us the

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 12>best chance to win right now, but I don't really

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 12>care because it hasn't been happening. I don't think we're

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 12>going to win regardless. Too many more teams, So I

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 12>want to know if guys like Duce can contribute, even

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 12>in just a gadget type role. I want to see

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 12>ten to twelve to fifteen carries us in one game.

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 12>After that, do whatever the heck you want to do

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 12>at that point. But the issue is with with that

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 12>mindset is that we have a coach here on a

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.719
<v Speaker 12>one year deal and the GM and the coach might

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 12>see things differently. Yep, GM might want to evaluate players

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 12>GMS or the coaches is fighting for his job. So

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 12>I don't think we're going to see evaluation. What I

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 12>think we're going to still see competitive try to win mode,

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 12>and I don't like that philosophy for teams are right now.

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:15.679
<v Speaker 12>But I thin guess what we're going to see, you know,

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.919
<v Speaker 12>going forward. But to answer your question, I'm selling as

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 12>much as I can and I'm trying to package picks

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 12>next year to move up and other grab players or

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 12>move up in the draft and grab you know, some

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 12>some young guys. So yep, thanks guys.

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, Dylan always bring in the heat whenever

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 3>it comes to this tach Cowboys team. He's he's very acknowledgeable.

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Whenever it comes to an I looster build.

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent in agreement.

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 5>The one thing is planned and we talked about it yesterday.

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Talked about that exact thing yesterday.

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 5>Same kind of thing the killers.

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 3>You got to make a decision if you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be sellers, because then you've got a head coach over

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 3>there that has no tie to what the future is

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 3>in terms of the Dallas Cowboys. Uh, if you are

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 3>selling and you are conceding and waving the white flag

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 3>in terms of the twenty twenty four season. The thing

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 3>I want to say here is a a lot of times,

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 3>and it's not always this way, but it does work

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 3>out this way traditionally is the value that you get

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 3>at the trade deadline is not the same value that

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 3>you would get on draft day. So there might be

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 3>some positive. It doesn't mean if they don't make any

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 3>deals and they don't sell any of their high quality

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 3>players right now, it doesn't mean that they're not going

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 3>to before the draft happens a lot of times the

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 3>desperation you talk about desperation and what the Cowboys did

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 3>to overpay for Jonathan Mingo, A lot of times that

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 3>desperation will fuel more compensation when you get closer to

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 3>draft day. So don't feel like this is the be all,

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 3>end all trade deadline. It's now, we're never We're not

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 3>gonna sell these picks and we're gonna just pitter patter

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 3>down the stretch. You're probably gonna pitter padder down the

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 3>stretch in twenty twenty four. But that doesn't mean you

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 3>can't revamp anything going into twenty twenty five.

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 5>But there's still ways that you can affect your football.

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 8>But today's price, tomorrow's price is not today's price, right, No,

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 8>you're going going to overpay now if you are desperate,

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 8>which you know, for all intents and purposes, we kind

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 8>of are, and.

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 5>There are other teams that are desperate right now to try.

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 7>And exactly So, maybe you make the trade form Mango

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 7>three weeks ago and it's a.

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 5>Sixth maybe maybe possibly that's.

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 8>Where my brain is, but there's nothing we can do

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 8>as far as speculation goes. You know, like that, it

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 8>sounds great in theory. It sounds great to sell everything

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 8>now and like we talked about yesterday, gain as much

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 8>draft capital as you can going into next year. I

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 8>like what you're saying, Colin, that you can do that

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:37.479
<v Speaker 8>after the season. It's done, after we know what the

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 8>result of the season is. And that feels like what's

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 8>most likely going to happen. But I didn't expect to

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 8>see a trade today. I really didn't. So maybe there's

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 8>there's more, there's more on the table. I hope there's

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 8>more on the table. I hope there's more moves being

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 8>made today.

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 5>And in hindsight, is twenty twenty always. I mean that's

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 5>just kind of the case.

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 3>But you do bring up a good point. I mean,

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Mingo and Jerry said this was on their radar.

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 3>He was a thirty visit for the Cowboys. I mean

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 3>he was in the building. I mean I got to

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 3>sit down and talk with the guy for the draft process.

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 3>They had him on their radar from the very beginning.

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's you suck and whatever. Yeah, I talked

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 3>to everybody, very very social.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, not really.

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 3>The fact of the matter is that they could have

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 3>made this trade previously, but they didn't.

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 5>They didn't do it.

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Because they were trying to figure out what they had.

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 3>They were trying to figure out if they I mean

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 3>they were sitting at three and two, three and three.

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 5>And then it unravels the way.

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 7>That you were five games in at that point, so

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 7>you knew what you had. You knew that Tobert was

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 7>capable wide receiver three with flashes of wide receiver two.

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 7>You knew that Brandon Cooks was on IR for a

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 7>hot man. You knew that you were going to go

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 7>up against the Detroit Lions and then the forty nine ers,

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 7>and then you had to go visit the Falcons.

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 5>These are things that you knew I picked him to

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 5>lose all.

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 8>You knew that your schedule does come out before the season.

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 7>You knew that your offense was struggling to no end

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 7>as far as scoring touchdown. So again, the only thing

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 7>that's really changed between three weeks ago and today is

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 7>the price to acquire mango because of your desperation at

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 7>this point. That didn't exist three weeks ago. But most

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 7>of the variables were pretty much going to be the same.

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 7>So it's proactive versus reactive, and as life teaches you,

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 7>when you're reactive, it tends to cost you more.

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>It's no different from what you're fixing your car. Right.

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 7>You can either pay for maintenance, regular maintenance and you

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 7>get your oil change, or you can buy a new

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 7>motor when that when those pistons lock up.

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 8>This is why insurance exists.

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's got to pay for insurance too.

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I fault them for not making

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 3>this deal two weeks ago, though I really don't. Yeah,

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know what you're saying it because deadlines

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 3>make deals, and.

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 7>Deals caused the overpay. Yes, that's that's the crux of

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 7>my argument. But they weren't going to make this deal

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 7>two weeks ago. Are you being completely I.

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Mean, the the way that they look at this team

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 3>is from an overly optimistic stepoint I'm being just completely

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<v Speaker 3>honest with the way that Jerry Jones runs this team

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<v Speaker 3>and the way that this front office traditionally has run

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<v Speaker 3>this team. It's with the rose colored glasses that you'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to see. Hey, there's a way to fix this.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a way to fix this. If only Jalen Tolbert

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<v Speaker 3>could step up. Maybe we can use Cavante Turpin as

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<v Speaker 3>a weapon more often and get him the football in

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<v Speaker 3>space and he can learn how to catch.

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<v Speaker 5>For the first time in his career.

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<v Speaker 3>There are things that you can hope can happen, that

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<v Speaker 3>you could hope would hang out.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's that hopium that we've talked about forever. They

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<v Speaker 5>weren't gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Make this deal two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 3>They may have had him on the radar and they

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<v Speaker 3>may have been looking for something like this.

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<v Speaker 7>There was a world class philosopher that once said this statement,

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<v Speaker 7>and it will go down in the annals of history

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<v Speaker 7>as one of the greatest statements ever.

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<v Speaker 5>Who's he going to be?

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<v Speaker 3>Hope is not strategy who said that he did. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just I'm not saying that's what I would have done. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like the compensation. I want to just make

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<v Speaker 3>it be clear. But I'm just telling you from the

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<v Speaker 3>way that this front office thinks this was not to

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<v Speaker 3>get done before the trade deadline was even upon you.

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 5>No, and it was never going to happen that way.

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<v Speaker 8>As more losses pile on, the team will be more desperate.

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<v Speaker 8>Desperate now the the more the debo we get into

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<v Speaker 8>the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Whenever you said a world class philosopher, I was like,

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 3>where is this going? I was thinking it was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be like a music reference or something, and then

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:22.399
<v Speaker 3>you looked right at.

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<v Speaker 7>Me and our good friend David Hellman loved David to death.

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<v Speaker 7>This is his tweet, and this is what I mean

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<v Speaker 7>when I say set a top the show. One of

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<v Speaker 7>the reasons because regardless of the Cowboys track record with

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<v Speaker 7>the fourth round pick, the fact that it's a fourth

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 7>round pick for this situation and this player. Not to

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 7>knock the player, but it just it does. The value

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 7>equation doesn't jib for me. So from David Hillman, Cowboys Found,

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<v Speaker 7>Dak Prescott, Tony Poller, Tyler Biadis Dalton, show Storn's Armstrong,

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 7>Jake Ferguson and back in the day, Anthony Hitchins all

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<v Speaker 7>his fourth round picks, most of those are in the

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<v Speaker 7>Will McLay erroo. Okay, and now you've given up a

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 7>fourth Trey Lance. That's not painting out for you right now.

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<v Speaker 7>And now you just gave up a four four Mingle

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<v Speaker 7>for only two and a half years of control. So

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<v Speaker 7>even if you look at it as oh well, if

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 7>you're fine with them using a fourth round pick on

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:14.439
<v Speaker 7>a receiver next season, then maybe you're fine. I get

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<v Speaker 7>the logic, but you lose a year and a half

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<v Speaker 7>in that conversation. So when you start thinking about it

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<v Speaker 7>in that capacity, and then you add like the tidbit

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<v Speaker 7>that Josh added with you gave up more to get

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 7>Mingo than you acquired by losing Amari Cooper. Yeah, it's

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 7>it just the value equation falls short for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna take our

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<v Speaker 3>La on line. I want to hear from Zeus and

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<v Speaker 3>the fans as we continue with more talking Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean from all the way across the country. We've

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<v Speaker 5>Football, Zeus in La. You're on talking Cowboys? What's going on? Zeus?

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<v Speaker 15>Good Fellas? My nickname is zoos aka as they are romon.

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<v Speaker 15>Stand back, by the way, for those.

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<v Speaker 5>That don't know, Zeus is actually your nickname? Like that's

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 5>an actual thing.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, yeah, yeah, my boy Marcella's Kim, one of my

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 15>former BATHLA teammates from growing up, called me Zeus because

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 15>he said I used to throw lightning bulbs. So that's

0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 15>how that came around.

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<v Speaker 5>Brad Sham still calls you that to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all that he did. It absolutely appropriate.

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<v Speaker 7>Legend three and five with things falling apart, I feel

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<v Speaker 7>like we're in hades.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm currently looking at like fire behind you too, because

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 3>your co worker Isaiah Kyle Brandt is like on the

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<v Speaker 3>screen right now with his second So as.

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<v Speaker 4>Soon as you thought you're gonna say, who's on the phone, yeah, network,

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 4>you're like, sorry to disappoint you, Beamer, it's our it's

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 4>our teammate Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 5>Standback.

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<v Speaker 8>So, Isaiah, who's your favorite Kyle that you work with?

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<v Speaker 11>You?

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<v Speaker 15>There's only one Ky now, there's only one k.

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 5>Exactly. You don't even have a KB like nickname.

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<v Speaker 1>What's lame, it's the world famous philosopher.

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<v Speaker 5>Isaiah. Tell me what you think about this trade.

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<v Speaker 3>The Cowboys trade a fourth round pick and they received

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Mingo, former second round pick out of Old Miss

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty three at the wide receiver position, and

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<v Speaker 3>they get a seventh round in return. Just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>your initial thoughts after hearing the news out there on.

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<v Speaker 5>The West Coast.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, well, it was a just a position, and I

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<v Speaker 15>think they did need to get a receiver just because

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 15>of obviously Brandon Cooks is not there. Even when he

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 15>was there, he was being underutilized. Now you have an

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 15>injury to Ceedee Lamb obviously that he'll most likely play through.

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 15>Then you look at the aspect that Jalen Tolberth's not

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 15>giving you much in regards to his productivity on the field,

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 15>so you did need somebody else to come in and

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 15>be a playmaker. But when you start looking at what

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<v Speaker 15>they gave up, they gave up a fourth rounder once again,

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 15>just like you know last year they gave him a

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 15>fourth round er for a trade Lambs, which I know

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 15>you guys already touched on which you're not seeing a

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 15>return on investment. You probably won't see a return on

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 15>investment because he hasn't had any on field time, which

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 15>means that he's no longer a trade asset as a

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 15>trade deadline approaches today. So you pretty much give away

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 15>a fourth rounder for a third or third string quarterback.

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<v Speaker 15>And now you're giving away a fourth rounder just for

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<v Speaker 15>a financial reasons and for a depth move as group

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.360
<v Speaker 15>where he may or may not have an impact. A

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 15>lot lot of people are going to look at it

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 15>and say, well, why didn't they get d Hot d

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:07.839
<v Speaker 15>Hop was a you know, they gave way a fifth

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 15>for d Hop or a potential fourth. Well, it was

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<v Speaker 15>all about the financial situation of the future, which we

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.760
<v Speaker 15>know the Dallas Cowboys are always looking at. They're always

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 15>trying to figure out, how can we get to the

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 15>most bang for our book in terms of finances and

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 15>not necessarily the most bang for our book in terms

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<v Speaker 15>of productivity. And I think that's where people, their fans

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 15>are starting to have a little bit of frustration in

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 15>terms of this conversation that continually gets given away.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I couldn't have said it better myself. I mean,

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 5>the fact to.

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<v Speaker 3>The wall the fact that there's there's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>comparisons made with the Amari Cooper trade and the d

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:46.359
<v Speaker 3>Hop Hop trade, and the all of that is to

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<v Speaker 3>be said in an outside of context and just kind

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 3>of put it together. This is in context. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>depth move for the future.

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 5>That's what it is.

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 3>And there's nothing really more than that that you can

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of pull from it other than the fact that

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 3>you might have over paid and center fourth round pick.

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 5>That's the one knock against this trade. It's a big knock.

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 3>It's one that's not not really what you want to

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 3>see at this point in time. Whenever I think all

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 3>of us and Isaiah, you went on the show yesterday,

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 3>but would you have classified yourself as in the let's

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 3>sell category for the Cowboys at the trade deadline as

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 3>opposed to let's be buyers?

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<v Speaker 15>You know, I don't think they're in a position to

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 15>be selling.

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 11>Well.

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 15>We talked about them coming out of training camp. They

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 15>had a lot of trade assets because everybody was healthy.

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 15>But now you're in a situation where everybody's injured. Right,

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.800
<v Speaker 15>You're your top four defensive the ends are all injured.

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 15>That's the most depth that you had at any position.

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:38.359
<v Speaker 15>Group on your on your team, and that's where all

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:40.799
<v Speaker 15>your trade equity was at. Well, now you're down to

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 15>your fifth and your sixth streen defense events and now

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 15>you cannot trade. Who are you going to get rid of?

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 15>You don't have anybody on offense that you could trade.

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 15>You have nobody on defense that's trade worthy. Where where

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 15>you're going to get in return an impact player? And

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 15>that's where Dallas Cowboys are at right now. If you're

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 15>going to make a move, you need to make a

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 15>move for somebody who's going to come in and have

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 15>immediate impact. If you're trying to save the season. Now,

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 15>if you're not trying to save the season, then you're

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 15>making trades for the future, And that's communicating whatever your

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 15>thought process is to your fan base.

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm waving the white flag. I'm not really worried about

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four. If I'm selling at the deadline, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>waving the white flag. I get what you're saying, like

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<v Speaker 3>impact players. That's that's part of why I would kind

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<v Speaker 3>of concede twenty twenty four. If I'm selling is because

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<v Speaker 3>you look at it. Where are you going to grab a.

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<v Speaker 5>Guy saying that?

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<v Speaker 8>Because you host the draft show man, You're you're looking

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<v Speaker 8>out for yourself right here, buddy, No, no.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be an interesting draft show.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think if you're a realistic.

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<v Speaker 8>I know, right, dang it. If you're realistic, you have

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<v Speaker 8>to look to the future. At this point, I think

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<v Speaker 8>just the and I know you said we're upstairs, probably

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<v Speaker 8>overly optimistic, right, But at this point, sitting here, what

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<v Speaker 8>I would do is sell, sell, sell whatever you can

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<v Speaker 8>to build that up.

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<v Speaker 7>Yesterday, that would have been a seller, absolutely would have

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<v Speaker 7>been a seller. But that's again, and that's two trains

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<v Speaker 7>of thought. It's our train of thought. But then the

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<v Speaker 7>team's train of thought is and like I articulated yesterday,

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<v Speaker 7>if you were to be sellers, that's basically you looking

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<v Speaker 7>at Mike McCarthy and the final year of his contract

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<v Speaker 7>and saying, yeah, we're just setting the rest of your.

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<v Speaker 1>Season on fire. Like that's just what it is.

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<v Speaker 15>Because yeah, but even then, no, see, like who are

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<v Speaker 15>you selling? What are you selling? What position group? What

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<v Speaker 15>position group? Do you have enough value for a player

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<v Speaker 15>to leave your team and go make an impact on

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<v Speaker 15>somebody else's name? What position group can you pull from?

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<v Speaker 7>That's fair and as far as being buyers, and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you go out and you buy the rights to Jonathan Mango,

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<v Speaker 7>which is basically what the trade is.

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<v Speaker 1>For me.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not just the compensation that's the issue. It's the

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<v Speaker 7>timing of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>So again, if you make this move, you know two

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<v Speaker 7>three weeks ago, maybe you're not three and five.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you throw that, you know, when you're.

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<v Speaker 7>Trying to come back against the forty nine ers in

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<v Speaker 7>San Francisco, when you're on that final offense to drive

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<v Speaker 7>and you go deep left, Maybe that's not terping.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's Jonathan Mango.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe you come up with that ball, and then maybe

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<v Speaker 7>the butterfly effect is possibly you walk away with that win.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be maybe.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's what I mean when I say it's not

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<v Speaker 7>the compensation, but it is certainly the compensation because I'm

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<v Speaker 7>out on the fourth round pick. But if you wanted

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<v Speaker 7>that player, you knew three weeks ago what the schedule

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<v Speaker 7>was and that you were without Brandon Cooks and that

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<v Speaker 7>the offense needed uh, you know, an insertion of electricity

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<v Speaker 7>and dot dot dot dot dot. So that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 7>So those are my two biggest problems with it. If

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<v Speaker 7>this was going to happen. It should have happened three

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<v Speaker 7>weeks ago. Now that has happened. Desperation made you overpay

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<v Speaker 7>Mmm mmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the Who's the most famous person that's standing closest

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<v Speaker 3>to you right now?

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<v Speaker 13>Uh?

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<v Speaker 15>The most famous person. Jamie Erdol's over here taking some

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<v Speaker 15>notes right now. She's getting after I call her jukeer, Jamie.

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<v Speaker 13>Uh.

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<v Speaker 15>We got we got ogbar bautch of Miller over there.

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<v Speaker 15>We got mg over here with his feet propped up.

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<v Speaker 15>So yeah, we're on break right now. And there's the

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<v Speaker 15>Jerry Madelon. Jerry Madelon is in the studio right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 15>in the studio right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I don't know why that wasn't the first name

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<v Speaker 5>came out of your mouth.

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<v Speaker 15>Come on, I just saw them.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, thank goodness, sucked to Jerry medalone.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell uh, tell Jamie, she did a phenomenal job on

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<v Speaker 3>the skull chant on Sunday Night Football.

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<v Speaker 15>I thought that was Jamie our Della Cowboys Talking Cowboys

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<v Speaker 15>podcast just said that you did an amazing job on

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<v Speaker 15>a skull call hold hold on, she's coming on.

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<v Speaker 16>Hey, I really appreciate that I do. It was one

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<v Speaker 16>of the most nervous moments of my life. It was

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<v Speaker 16>like wedding day jitters, but it was uh, it was

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<v Speaker 16>an electric moment. And uh yeah, I got the text

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<v Speaker 16>about Jacom Jamie wait to wait to lead the skulls

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<v Speaker 16>out from Isaiah. So I appreciate that from who is

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<v Speaker 16>this Cowboys Talking Cowboys podcast?

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<v Speaker 12>Love you that?

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<v Speaker 5>So wait, wait, wait, wait before we go, Jamie, do you.

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<v Speaker 15>Havename to Isaiah? No about to ask you if you

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<v Speaker 15>had a nickname for me? Yeah, Jimmy, I heard him.

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<v Speaker 11>They don't.

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<v Speaker 15>She hasn't came up one yet, came up one yet.

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<v Speaker 5>Whenever she comes up with one, we got to know.

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<v Speaker 5>We got to figure it.

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<v Speaker 15>Out, all right, and arrested a Crusith.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, sounds up, there's g Matt.

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<v Speaker 5>I heard g Matt in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>There.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Isaiah, will let you go. We got to

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<v Speaker 5>get off the air too.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you've got the rest of your show to go,

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<v Speaker 3>but we'll see you on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 5>Bud goes zeus in.

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<v Speaker 8>L A great, great call today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, calls all the way across, all the way across

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<v Speaker 3>the board. We'll be back tomorrow. It's time to turn

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 3>the page. It's time to turn the age page because

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<v Speaker 3>it's division week.

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<v Speaker 5>Philadelphia Eagles come to town.

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<v Speaker 1>Mingle versus the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 3>Mingo versus Mingo Legacy games. Jonathan Mingo wide receiver won.

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<v Speaker 3>When CD Lamb's out this week, it'll be interesting.

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<v Speaker 8>Last time we straited for a wide receiver and they

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<v Speaker 8>played the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 5>It went off.

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<v Speaker 8>He went off.

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<v Speaker 3>His name was Amari Cooper, not Jonathan Mingo.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at you, Yeah, we shall see.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm feeling good about it.

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<v Speaker 3>As Josh Love's chaos and I'm here for it, always chaos.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a chaos agent if you will, agent chaos.

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<v Speaker 3>For Patrick No c Walker for Josh Right, guess for

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Beam in the backup Kyle Yeoman saying so on

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<v Speaker 3>from Talking Cowboys, we will see you tomorrow. Previewing the

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas defense versus the Philadelphia offense.

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