1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for you coming back. 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: Part two is underway with Al is in his car 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,079 Speaker 2: and he's not listening to himself. Who are some of 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: the guys? Who are some of the rappers you listen to? 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Like all day long? Yeah? I mean who you like? 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Obviously, you know you got these news you got obviously 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: you got the Drake and the k Dots in the 8 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: little way. 9 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: But who do they are? Like? Hell, who's It's a 10 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: great answer. Who do I like? 11 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: I like a lot of different artists, man, But I 12 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: listen to everything. I listen to everything from scissor to 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: from a little baby to scissor from I mean you, 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: David Man, they could be it depends, but I go. Also, 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 3: I might listen to Bob Marley man, you know, like 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: I might listen to Bob Dylan. I might listen to 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 3: the Earrhythmics. I might listen to and yeah, I might 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: listen to that. 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: I might listen to you know what I mean. 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: I listen to what whatever moves me in the moment, 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like, I don't feel obligated 22 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: to listen to nothing. But if I want to hear 23 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: Glo Rilla, if I want to hear Sexy Red. I'll 24 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: listen to it if the meg joint is playing and 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: I'm feeling that I play it. If it's a little Nikki, 26 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 3: is it, Cardy? 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: Is it? You know what I'm saying? Is it a 28 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: little dirt? We gotta hear some dirt on there? Okay? 29 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: You know if I need to hear it, you know 30 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: what I mean? Do I want to hear some Asap 31 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Rocky or you know what I mean? 32 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: I want to go to Canal Street with it, like 33 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 4: like it depends on my move movie. 34 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: I might listen to Rihanna, though then I might listen 35 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: to See You. I might listen to Mick Jagger. 36 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm you know, I 37 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: listen to what I just because I like greatness, Michael Jackson, Prince, 38 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: I like greatness man, you know. But then I flip 39 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: it and you know Lauryn Hill's son with that that song, 40 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 3: you know that that you know that joint? 41 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: You know like ooh, I got one, I got two 42 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 2: questions from you give me your mount rushmore depth jam Artist, 43 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: Death jam On. 44 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah when you heard it. 45 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: Death d L Yeah, I wrapped that when that would 46 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: I wait? 47 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean listen. Look if you tell me, look my 48 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: rushmore that fore head. If I'm looking, I'm listening at him. 49 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 4: So I'm the first artist on death Chair. So I 50 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: mean not all that, all that. Look at man, your honor. 51 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: He philibuster, philibuster he man he meandering me. 52 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: Fucking ghost right and came over here. You know, the 53 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: whole interview. I would have the people that I don't have. 54 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: These people wait, they don't even wearing the funk out 55 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: about this nonsense about the ghost rights. 56 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: Hey, listen here, okay, my rush Okay, we got jay Z, 57 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: we got Kanye, we got l ll we got Rihanna, 58 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: we got d M Max, we got Looder, we got Nabs, 59 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: we got jay z al got. 60 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: To jay Z twice. 61 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: No, no, no, get a public enemy. Okay, So you 62 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: talking about the death jam, death jam, How you're gonna do? 63 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: How you put Poe hands on there? You know you 64 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: were there putting four hands on there. 65 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: It's ll it's public enemy, it's it's it's the Beastie boys. 66 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: And it would have to be it would have to 67 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: be slick Rick. 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: Okay, that's all you have because death jam okay with 69 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: with holding out a depth jam. 70 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, a thousand years later. Let me make your question. 71 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 2: If I say, give me your mott Rushmore presidents, I'm 72 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: not talking about no no saying current no no, no, no, no, 73 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not saying the I'm not saying the 74 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: current heads. I'm saying all the presidents. If you want 75 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: to put all the presidents, give me four. So since 76 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: all up, all the four I want four depth jam artists. 77 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 78 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: I mean four depth jam We got one certified, we 79 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: got one. 80 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm coming back with it. I'm coming back. I 81 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: got nothing with you. No no, no, he finished, Let's stay 82 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: on that. Okay, okay, okay. 83 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: Like I said, when you think about that era, when 84 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: you think about because I'm when I say, when you 85 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: think about Mount Musmore. 86 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: See most people, it's a lot of ways. What's the 87 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: criteria for it is? It is the metric? Popular success 88 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: is the metric impact? Meaning is the metric? Because public 89 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: enemy what they did in terms of building a label? 90 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: Llo what he did in terms of building a label, 91 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: and then I got them? Sorry, what about Rick and Russell? 92 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: LLL is your list whatever metric you want to you, 93 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: it ain't my list. Rana so so so so just 94 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: so we're clear, youurana. It's whatever evidence I want to yes, yes, 95 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: all right yo, so his his evidence is inadmissible. It's 96 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: anything I'm thinking about you anything there you Yeah. 97 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: So, like I said, you gotta have llll cool J. 98 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: You gotta have the public enemy. You gotta have the 99 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: beastie boys, and you gotta probably do slick Rick because 100 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: now and now, these comments are gonna be nuts to 101 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: be because I don't know what the. 102 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: Comment is gonna be. I hadn't read the comments yet. 103 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: You know exactly what the commic is gonna be. This 104 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: ship so tee though, they're gonna be wearing me out. 105 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 4: This is gonna be crazy, This is gonna be No, 106 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: he's capping, he's hating. 107 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: Like you know, I tell you what I'm doing. I 108 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: would give you a chance to redeem yourself the chain 109 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: of cap I will give you a chance of captain. Yeah, 110 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: oh my god, I can read it. Now, let me 111 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: get some more than as I prepare for this bullshit. 112 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: Hold on, let me just prepare myself for this bullshit. 113 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: Now we toasted his list. Now I ain't got nothing 114 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: to do with that. Oh Lord, have mercy, Lord, have mercy. 115 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: What can you do any of what about not just depth? 116 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 4: Damn about all right? You know what four pictures of Rihanna? 117 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: Don't he already gave you list? He gave his list. 118 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. 119 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: When people talk about the greatest rappers of all time, 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: term that you, I'll leave with the first to say it, 121 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: I'm the greatest of all time. 122 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: But you coined the phrase. 123 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: Goat, which incidentally I got because of Earl and manago 124 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: Y Street, Yes Street and put them together. 125 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: But yes, yes, Okay. 126 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: When they talk about these you hear them mentioned Hove 127 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: and Tupac and Big Heir and Nods and Eric and 128 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: rock Him and Kris One all them. 129 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 5: Wayne El never comes up. Bro, they don't know if 130 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 5: that's true. I don't feel like that. I don't feel 131 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 5: like that. 132 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: No, I'm not I'm saying I know. I mean, And 133 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: I was thinking, me and my homeboy was talking. I 134 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: was like, man, the man is still to test the 135 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: time for Ford and nobody's had a career that spanned 136 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: this loan. 137 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 4: But that's okay. Everybody got the right to entitle to 138 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 4: their own opinion. Man, I don't like what am I 139 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: supposed to feel? I'm sposed to fucking feel left out? 140 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, why you think when they talk about the 141 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: greatest time I got, I. 142 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: Got Grammys, them in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 143 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean my resumes feest for itself, you know what 144 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 145 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: Like, I mean the dudes that they mentioned, you know, 146 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: most of them had you know, peak success when at 147 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: the birth of the internet. 148 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: Why would I trip off of that? 149 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: And guess what what I grew up in the music 150 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: I started off at sixteen? 151 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I just don't care about that 152 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: shit like it doesn't. 153 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: That's not because do you use to care? No, because 154 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: I already believed that about myself. That's why I coined 155 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: the term. You gotta remember, like they're calling everybody the 156 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: term that I created, not a term that they So 157 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, you know, he's the gold, He's the god. 158 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: So for me, it's like, think about it. From my end, 159 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: it's like, why would I care? Why would I care? 160 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: Explain to me why I would care? Why you would care? 161 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when you have the level of success 162 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: that you've had, and a lot of guy get that sentence, 163 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: just as I think, no, no, no, no, no, no, 164 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I mean, that's why I wouldn't care. No, 165 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: but when you've had the level of success, we all 166 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: want validation. 167 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: That grant, that Grammy is validation. That gim me you 168 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: got is validation. 169 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: That walker that's starting the Walk of Famous, validation, the 170 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: Ken of the Honor Award is validation. 171 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: You don't want those, you didn't want those. I think 172 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: you're putting them all. 173 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no, I'm just asking civil questions, 174 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: civil yester. 175 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: No, what is different from a pap? Wow, it's different. 176 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 1: There is that not validation to what you've done that 177 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 178 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: Yes, it's all validation, but you don't want to fad 179 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: it's all validation. 180 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: You don't want that. No, no, no, no, it's all. 181 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: I want it all. I want it all, I want 182 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: it all. Okay, However, however, however, here's the difference. 183 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, You're not gonna make me 184 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: care about some shit just because I got this ship. 185 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: It's like, yo, I got a blob counsel, I got 186 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 4: a green couch, I got a purple couch, I got 187 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: a blue couch. 188 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: You ain't gonna make me care about this motherfucker great 189 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: couch over. But if you want me to want the 190 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: green couch, I got all them couches. I don't need 191 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: that couch because I got all them couches. You know 192 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you're trying to make me. 193 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: Want this particular couch because somebody else funky hass to 194 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: sit so it's easy. Yet No, no, it ain't about 195 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 4: no easy dog. Listen, Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. 196 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: You when you launch you know a label like death Chair, Yes, 197 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: when you when you get you know, when you you 198 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: scoop up a couple of Grammys, getting nominated eleven times, 199 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: when you get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 200 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: when you get Kennedy Center honors, when you have albums 201 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: platinum in a row, when you have all of these accolades, 202 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: when your wall is full. 203 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: Ten it don't whatever it is, whatever you know, whatever 204 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: it is, No not, I have my people right down. 205 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: You know when you do, you know, when you have 206 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 4: all of that, you don't trip off of Like I 207 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: don't see lack. 208 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't see lack. You fulfilled? You got everything 209 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: I see. 210 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: No, No, I see abundance, bro, Like I'm winning what 211 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 3: you want me to do, Like why why do you 212 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 3: want me to be mad? 213 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: Like they just want me to be mad about some shit. 214 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: I didn't rather to be that. I see what it 215 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: is I say, they want me to be mad. 216 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: I'm not mad. I want am I to be mad 217 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 3: at man? Like like what I'm gonna be mad because 218 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: another person loves Tupac? Like why would I be mad 219 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: because somebody else loves Tupac? That's like you know, like listen, 220 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: I love I respect Braun at the highest height. I 221 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: like Jordan. I know you a bron got. I'm not 222 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: mad at you for that. I'm not mad at somebody 223 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: because they love Biggie. I'm not mad at somebody because 224 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 3: they think weigning is dope, because guess what, all three 225 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: of them are dope. And I do respect their artistry 226 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: and they do got some hot ass ship, So I 227 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: can understand that you respect that, of course. But that's 228 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 3: what you gotta remember when you talk to me. You're 229 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: talking to an MC. See, people are only think about 230 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: the rap career. They not think about the MC. And 231 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: the one thing that the difference is that mcs appreciate 232 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: of the MC's MC's don't. That's not the thing that 233 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 3: people think is missing is actually motivation and inspiration that 234 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 3: only gives me a desire to want to do better, 235 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: to make a better album, to make most shit, to 236 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: make hotter shit, and to prove my case on the music. 237 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: You cannot talk your way into the Hall of Fame, 238 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: you can't talk your way into none of that shit. 239 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: You can't talk your way into a super Bowl championship. 240 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: You have to deliver. 241 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: So if somebody has an opposing opinion, then you got 242 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: to respect that and do something about it. 243 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: In the booth. 244 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: But check a l's resume homie in terms yes, for 245 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 2: in terms of in terms of my personal accomplishments. Because 246 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: you remember you raise the term validation, right, well, I 247 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: think I got enough. 248 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: Validation if that's what I was looking for. However, here's 249 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: the thing. 250 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: I never set out looking for validation, because the whole 251 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: key to MCing and the whole key to even life 252 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: and be a successful is to be self validated. The 253 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: validation comes when you validate yourself. You gotta have self validation. 254 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: You gotta be able to look in the mirror and say, 255 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go kick ass, I'm gonna get that job 256 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 3: inter view, I'm gonna take it to the next level. 257 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take my life in my career and elevate it. 258 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go I believe in me. When you believe 259 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: in you, and you you self reference you. When you 260 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 3: understand deep in your heart and your soul that you 261 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: capable of going to the next level, you don't need 262 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: no validation from nobody else. I don't walk in those 263 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 3: rooms wishing that somebody would say something different. 264 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm who I am. You know what I'm saying? Like 265 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: that that's important. Let me ask your question. 266 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 2: Go ahead, If record sales is ticket sales validation, that 267 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 2: validation everything is. 268 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: Everything can be validation or so so everything. 269 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 3: A motherfucker can tell you that, Like your shirt and 270 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: it's validation, You're gonna go by nine hundred and same shirt. 271 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 4: So you keep getting valid Validate me, some mouth, validate me, 272 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: some mother me. Hey, got that validation, mol got that validation, 273 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 4: got that validation for your Like when we do it, 274 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 4: we're gonna just validate, like just be validated. Like what 275 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 4: we doing, Man, We're gonna roll up to validate that 276 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 4: validation pack. You're like, we're gonna just roll up the 277 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 4: validation pack. 278 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's like so it's like 279 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: it's just like yo, listen man, it's not the wrong listen. 280 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: I love awards just like the next man. 281 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: I love accolades like the next man, and I respect 282 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: them too, and I respect all of those bodies that 283 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: bestow those honors on me. 284 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: I really do. And you do have millions of people 285 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: who think that LL is the goat. 286 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter whether they show up in this poll 287 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: of that survey or whatever, because I see them every 288 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: day in the comments every day every day. If you 289 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: go on my comments right now on YouTube and you 290 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: look at past, you'll see it. But the point is, 291 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: how do you feel about you? How do you feel 292 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: about your game when you step on the court, when 293 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: you step on the field, are you on your A game? 294 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: Are you maximizing your potential? Or you to being the 295 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 3: best that you could be? When you bone up for 296 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: that bar exam? Are you being are you on your 297 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: A game? You know what I'm saying. Do you need 298 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 3: somebody to tell you you look great today? 299 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: Like? This is real ship? Right? 300 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: So on this album on the four the fourth just 301 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: coming out, you believe that you laid your best work 302 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: down thus for you I do, and you sleep good 303 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: at night. 304 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: Noing it. This is this is the benefit absolutely absolutely 305 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: shi it is hot. I love it, And that don't 306 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: mean everybody gotta like it, right, I love it? Yeah? Yeah. 307 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: Have there ever been an album that you put out 308 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: that you like this, Hey, this is gonna this is 309 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: gonna rock and didn't get the commercial success that you 310 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: thought it would. 311 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: No, No, because you know, I make different types of albums, 312 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: and you know you have something that perform at a 313 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: higher level than others. 314 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: But you know that's okay. You pour the water like this, Lecker. 315 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: You gotta keep your hydrad. I gotta keep you hydrated. See, 316 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: I see how you do it. Man, You're like, I 317 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: get it now, I get it. 318 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, buddy, you know yeah yeah yeah yeah. 319 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: What were you saying? Yeah? 320 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: I love you brother, Yeah nah nah nah share nah. 321 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: I just I just do what I do. You know 322 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like it's kind of like sports. 323 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: Artists different from sports because you can keep doing it 324 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: a longer time. But that being said, it's kind of 325 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: like you have seasons where you win the championship, you 326 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: have seasons where it blows up, you have seasons where 327 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: you have a great season. You have seasons where your 328 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: numbers you look at them like you have seasons where 329 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: it explodes. Again, it doesn't mean you're not a pro. 330 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: You were a professional throughout. You're still a pro. You 331 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: but your whole career you had different You had your people, 332 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: but you're not gonna have a You had different seasons. 333 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: But year, yeah, you felt like a pro to every 334 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: year regardless. You know, maybe you tweet the ankle, maybe 335 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: something was hammy was you know whatever, It's all good. 336 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: Nah, I feel good. 337 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: You were in the studio when Biggie recorded who shot you? 338 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: Correct? Absolutely did what was going through your mind? 339 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: Because it's interesting because I like hearing when people like 340 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: in the studio and they seeing other artists do their thing, 341 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: their craft. I mean obviously like Tupac, I don't think 342 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: too like Hole don't write, don't write anything. I mean 343 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: Little Wayne and Hold they don't. They just go off 344 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: the top of the head. And I don't know if 345 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: Bigger had anything down on paper. But it's interesting to 346 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: see because when I went to the Pro Bowl, I 347 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: like to see other guys like Okay, I can understand 348 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: why he's like. I can understand why they're like that. 349 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: So you're in the studio and you're seeing Bigger and 350 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: he recording. 351 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Who shot you? What? What was it like? Did you 352 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: did you know that album was gonna do, that song 353 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: was gonna do? 354 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: I thought it was great. I thought it was dope. 355 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: And I'm just sitting there vibing with him, you know 356 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I mean, I just asked him your 357 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: big why he smoked so much? 358 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: Weak? He said, just it made me feel like I'm 359 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: in the track, you know what I mean? 360 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: Right, it was fun. It was just a vibe. It 361 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: was just vibing. You man, won't get you some water? Yeah, 362 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 4: it was just a vibe. 363 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: Yea, we keep you hydrated and yeah yeah we No, No, 364 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: that was it. 365 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: He was just vibing, saying it was, you know, putting this, 366 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: putting this thing together, putting. I watched them put it together, 367 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 3: you know, separate the week from the opposite, you know 368 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 3: what I mean? 369 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: It was crazy, It was dope. 370 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: Did you pass on two tracks from Biggie? Pass on 371 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: them when you met? Like he recalled, like you were 372 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: supposed to do those, You were supposed to be on those. 373 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: No that's not true, that's not true. No, No, I 374 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: didn't pass on no tracks from bick. 375 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: So Sky's the limit Junior Mafia players anthem get in no. 376 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: But you know what, Now, if did the producers send 377 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: it to me on a beat tape or something, I 378 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: don't know, they might have they might remember that more 379 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: than me, right, you know what I mean? Like like 380 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 3: sometimes you'll have producers. They'll send them put a tape 381 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: together with a bunch of beats on it or CD 382 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 3: back then at that era, send it to you. I 383 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: might have heard it and didn't, but it don't matter 384 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: because I probably wasn't gonna do nothing with it anyway. 385 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: Like what Biggie did on it was what was supposed 386 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: to be. Okay, I'm looking at you. 387 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: You looked at Jennifer Lopez, run DMC, Mariah Carey, bought 388 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: to Man one twelve, so many more in the studio. 389 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: Like when you go into studio and you. 390 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 2: Work with these different artists, do you pick up anything 391 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: from the how they do it? Like you said, Big 392 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: Biggest smoked a lot of weed. What's ll vibe in 393 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 2: the studio? Water flowing protein, protein. 394 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 4: Boll pro Yeah yeah, yeah, protein oatmeal with protein on 395 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: top of it like that right before you go in 396 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 4: the city with no milk or water, real dry and 397 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: I just get it there, don't Yeah, right like that, 398 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 4: I'm like that dry. Just what's l L vibe? You 399 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: just going the extract. 400 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: All the fun out that motherfucker is. There's some fun. 401 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: Get rid of that ship. Hey, that's some fun. Get 402 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: rid of the fun. A yeah, just yeah. So I 403 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: mean so so you going to the studio, obviously you 404 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: got them. I mean like when you doing let's let's 405 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: just say, for the sake of argument, mama gonna knock 406 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: you out, Like mam, I'm I'm in a game and 407 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: when the when the game, like I'm having one of 408 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: those games. 409 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: Uh, I don't hear nothing. 410 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like it's like everything is just 411 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: like moving this slow motion like I feel right now. 412 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: It's like, so shit is moving the slow most If 413 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: that is that? How you is that? 414 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: How like when you go in the studio and you 415 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: get on getting on, you get in the zone. 416 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: Man, You get in the zone. 417 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 3: And you know, sometimes you can write conscious streaming. It's 418 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: like streaming consciousness. Sometimes you can go back and forth 419 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: and iterate kind of like Ernest heaving away. 420 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: It all depends, you know what I'm saying. 421 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: And you know, it also depends on who you're working 422 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: in the studio with, okay, because that you know, one 423 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 3: plus one can equal three, one plus one can equal two, 424 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: one plus one can equal four. It really depends because 425 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 3: they are intangible elements that come to play when two 426 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 3: artists getting the studio together, you know what I mean. 427 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's what it is. You know. 428 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: Something can like like a person might be playing a 429 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 3: beat and I might look a certain way and they're like, 430 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: I need to change that baseline just because the way 431 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: I looked, or I might say a verse to somebody 432 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: and they're like they kind of. 433 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: Like and I'm like, that didn't he didn't feel let me, 434 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 435 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 3: So it depends. It really depends on you know, who 436 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: you're working with. But in the studio, my thing is 437 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 3: that I approach it like I've never done. 438 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: Anything interesting, you know what I mean? 439 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 3: Like like you still like, I'm still approach it like 440 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: I've never done anything ever ever, I know nothing about 441 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: the process. So if I'm working with a producers, like 442 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 3: what you're thinking, I've never done anything. 443 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: Wow, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's how I 444 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: approach it. You know what I'm saying. I don't. 445 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: I don't go in with a like a whole bunch 446 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: of I know how to do this and I know 447 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: how to do that. 448 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Who is it? LLL? Been 449 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: on the track with that? You like? 450 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: I really like? I really like the way he vibe. 451 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 2: Who haven't you been on the track with that? You 452 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 2: like to build a track with. 453 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: You? 454 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: I think we should do like a motherfucker, like a 455 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: real uptemple the road, get both. 456 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: We should remix set it off by two fifty six 457 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: year old can't be on no rap bullshit? No, hell no, 458 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: here you go with your bullshit. Don't be holding me 459 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: to your standard to listen it was let's one listen man. No, no, no, no, no, no, 460 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: I got nothing to do. 461 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 4: That's that's your own personal I'm saying you clue rope 462 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 4: me into that one? Know how you? 463 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: I feel fresh? I feel fresh. 464 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: I've heard you say that a lot of people after 465 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: they reach a certain age say they feel like they 466 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: don't have anything to rap. 467 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 4: About, so they no, no, you've heard other people say that. 468 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 4: Any comment, No, you comment on that. No, I'm saying, 469 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 4: they saying, I'm not saying you said it. 470 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: That's but that's just you have to stay curious about 471 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 3: the world and interested in the world. See the difference. 472 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 3: People make a lot of music, They make a lot 473 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: of analogy analogies on metal. They try to use sports 474 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 3: as a metaphor or make an analogous to music and art. 475 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: But it's different because as long as I say curious, 476 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: as long as spiritual, I'm open, as long as I 477 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 3: listen to new things that are happening, as long as 478 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: I care, as long as I'm really interested in pushing 479 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 3: the envelope creatively, I can do anything. There's no reason 480 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: like because at the end of the day, if I'm nineteen, 481 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 3: if I'm twenty, the only thing that matters is when I. 482 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: Press play, Do I like that shit? Okay, That's the 483 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: only thing that matters. 484 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: So then you feel that should be the only thing 485 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: that matters right now. 486 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: Well, it is the only thing that ultimately matters. 487 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 3: I mean, you might have a few that are little 488 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: resistant or hesitant early on, but ultimately when they press 489 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: play and they like it, they going with it. People 490 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: gonna rock to the shit that's hot. A lot of dudes, 491 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: a lot of older dudes don't want to you know, 492 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: respect that you know, like people gonna rock the what's 493 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: hot Manna, you're. 494 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 2: Gonna be You're gonna be up on the stage like 495 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: Mick Jagger. Goddamn right. Absolutely can't wait to do it. 496 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: I started to wear I'm Rolling Stones T shirt. And 497 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: that's facts, the facts. Absolutely, you know what I'm saying. Yes, absolutely, 498 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: you know. I mean you think you know, Like, let 499 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 2: me tell you something. 500 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 4: If you had fresh, fresh legs, if your legs felt 501 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: fresh and your back felt fresh, you wouldn't be out there. 502 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: That's a yes. No, yeah right. 503 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie because I retired at thirty five 504 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: and I felt fresh. But they started, they started moving 505 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: too fast. 506 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: And you heard what you just said. 507 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah you heard what you just said, right, yeah yeah yeah, 508 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: you made it external but your body. 509 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: Was yeah yeah yeah, well me. 510 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 2: But see, I had already been a validator. I had 511 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 2: already been validated. You know what I'm saying. I got 512 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: them super Bowls? I got it, bro, Why don't we 513 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: validate Braun together? 514 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: Right now? You know what I mean? You already know it. 515 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 4: Well, well he's twenty, so he's twenty second, twenty second 516 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 4: year to coming up right, so still doing it? 517 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he's still He's still But see, like you, 518 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: you still have a passion to ride love it. You 519 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: still have a passion to get enough age. You still 520 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: having a passion to pack that stuff up. Living a suitcase, 521 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: live out of a suitcase, can go country. 522 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 4: The luxury little suitcase ninety as little tiny ass suitcase 523 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 4: with a whole bunch of shit in it, and buying 524 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 4: clothes as you go on, buying ship t shirts out 525 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 4: the ad part nasty. 526 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: How about you know I love New York. I'm good 527 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: now you you know, where's the show tonight? How you 528 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: feel about sampling love it? You cool? Because I think 529 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: that bigger I'm going back to Kelly, didn't he Yeah, 530 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean. 531 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: He didn't sample it, but he it was in interpolation, 532 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: going back to Cali. I mean, yeah, has done Like 533 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 3: a lot of people use myself all the time. 534 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't. 535 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: When you do, you tell anybody no, yeah, yeah, oh 536 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: I hate. 537 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, I got to here. 538 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 4: Yeah you know, I'm the biggest hater in the game. 539 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, that's my goal to move 540 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 4: is just hate on some sh yo. You're trying to 541 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: be successful. 542 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: Fuck that? Yeah yo, stop that? Yeah, cut that off. 543 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: How do you determine who you let sample and who 544 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: you say no to? 545 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, if it sounds like dog shit, 546 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 3: I probably say. 547 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: Oh so they gotta let you hear they got you 548 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: gotta hear what you think? Hey, I'm just. 549 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 2: Gonna see you the check first ship check first hear 550 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: that record you infit of you about. They're gonna best 551 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: ride to tell. 552 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: My do here? You know, a validation. I can get 553 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: a cheeseburger, broke. 554 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: You know, we could talk money later, but boy, your 555 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 3: boy can get a cheeseburger. 556 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: So let me let me, let me hear the song. 557 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: Let's start there, okay, okay, let's start with the song. 558 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 3: Let me hear it. Okay, you know, and then we 559 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 3: go from there. And you know what, but I give 560 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: them love man, like I don't. I try not to 561 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: be too brutal with the especially with the young artist 562 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 3: when they make new music. I don't want to like 563 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 3: over judge them. I don't want to an r their material. 564 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: I mean, if it's just like I can't take it, 565 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, I can't do it. But if it's borderline, 566 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: sometimes I get my past, you know what I'm saying, 567 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 3: Because I feel like I would want somebody. They may 568 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: have a you know, a kind of approach. I don't 569 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: understand them, so I give them that, you know what 570 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: I mean, give benefit of that. I give him benefit 571 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: of the doubt. I don't want to you know, I don't. 572 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 3: I want to see kids making. I like to see 573 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 3: people succeed. You know what I'm saying. I like, like, 574 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 3: I really do, man like it. I just like even 575 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: on my new album, I got a song called the 576 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: Val I put three new kids on it that are unknown. 577 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 3: You know, this kid Don Pablito, he's from south Side Queens, 578 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: This kid Mad Squabbles from Philly, and this kid Jayson 579 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: from Lafayette, Louisiana. And I got all three of them 580 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: and they own the new song, and we found them 581 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 3: on the internet, me and Q Tip and I. 582 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: Put them on it. I made a vow because I 583 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: got the Eminem's on the album. 584 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: I got Snoop Dogg and Nas and all of these 585 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: you know, Ross and Joe and all of these superstar 586 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 4: heavy hitters, goats and you. 587 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: Know artists on there. 588 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 4: So it's like, let me get some people that haven't 589 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 4: who never had the opportunity, opportunity, I made that vow, 590 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 4: and so I really love seeing other. 591 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: People win too, you know what I'm saying. 592 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 2: You know, do you feel that that's a responsibility for 593 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: artists that have made it to go back and possibly 594 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: give other artists that's up in an opportunity. 595 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny saying I know that the politically 596 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 3: correct answers for me to say, yes, I think the 597 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 3: real answer is to say artist needs to do what 598 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: they feel inspired to do. 599 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: That's the real answer, dog, you know what I'm saying. 600 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 4: Like I said, yeah, billion everybody be but that's not 601 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 4: like it's are you inspired to do that? Like I 602 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: was truly inspired to get those kids opportunity. 603 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: I didn't sign them. I didn't. 604 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: It was no bs attached to it, there was no contingencies, 605 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: no strings. I just wanted to give my opportunity, right, 606 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: And so yeah, that's how I moved. 607 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: Doesn't make sense, yes, you know. 608 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: And then so like I think artists, you know, like 609 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: like my new album, my only obligation was to be 610 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 3: purely inspired and right from the heart and create something, 611 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: whether it was imaginary, whether it was fiction, whether it 612 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: was factor, whatever mixture thereof just to give people a 613 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: home cooked meal that they can really enjoy, you know 614 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 3: what I'm say, And that's what the album is. 615 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 616 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about this new album because then 617 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: I want to get into a little bit of your 618 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: your career outside of music. The Foce. Yeah, your first 619 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: album in eleven years, your fourteenth studio album. You have 620 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: eminem you have Nas Snoop Dogg, Rass, Fat Joe, Bust, 621 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: the Sweetie q Tail produced their entire album. Yeah, what 622 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: motivated l after eleven years? Go back in the studio, 623 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: Roll the sleeves up and do it, roll them up to. 624 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: Cut them. You know, they said, what was the motivation? Man? One? 625 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: I really love it. Two. 626 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: I love the challenge because it just hasn't been done nobody, 627 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: you know, and hip hop is you know, been in 628 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: year forty dropping heat. I just think that's really cool shit, right, 629 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean that just being year forty 630 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: dropping heat is crazy. 631 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: You know, like. 632 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: It hasn't been done, right, It excites me, and I 633 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: like what it sets up for the for the future generation, 634 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: right you know what I mean? Yeah, Like it says 635 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: to them as possible, Like I went to a Rolling 636 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: Stones concert and I saw Mick Jagged. I was like, yo, 637 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: I was actually playing with their lights that you know, 638 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: they had a part in the show. I was working 639 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: the lights. I'm messing with the legs I make. I'm like, yo, 640 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: this is you know. And it was like it was 641 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: just like he shows up, he's approaching eighty, he's eighty one. 642 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: Oh he's eighty one. 643 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: Are you really trying to be up there another twenty 644 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: four years? Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah man? Why not? Why not? 645 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: What would would it make people happier if I just. 646 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: I'm just sing down relaxed days so they can get it, 647 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: so they can pretend in their minds that I'm somehow 648 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 3: in their way. 649 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 4: It's like, look, you wouldn't gonna do ship no way. 650 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: You're acting like I'm in your way. I'm like, oh, now, 651 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: would do then I can succeed. I don't think so 652 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: on me. 653 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: So it's like, nah, yo, I I love it, man, Yeah, 654 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: I love what I do. I love hip hop, man, 655 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: I love like I love being called the rapper, I 656 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: love being called the MC. I'm not uncomfortable with that, 657 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: and I unapologetically love it. I don't have to hide 658 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 3: behind any of my other business dealings. I don't have 659 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: to hide behind anything. It's I love you are who 660 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: you are. I love hip hop, you know what I'm saying. 661 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: And when you see me, you getting that hip hop shit. 662 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: And that's what's walking in the room. When I walk in, 663 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a man first and a lover of 664 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: God and the God in me and the God above 665 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: first that being said, and I love my family, but 666 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: that being said, I love hip hop. 667 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 668 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: I can't think of a better person to ask than you, 669 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: because you at the very beginning in the early eighties. 670 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: Obviously help. I've been around fifty years, but you've been 671 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: almost fifty years. 672 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: It's rap dying. 673 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we got to edit this shit because 674 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: you can't pause and think anymore because everybody thinks of 675 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: pause is pregnant, and. 676 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: You get it. 677 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: You're giving birth to the worst answer whatever. You know. 678 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 3: So you know, like if you stumble on a word 679 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: at the answer, it's like cap yeah, you know, you know, 680 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: it ain't got nothing to do with my mouth being. 681 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 4: Dry and the fire was hot as hell. I've been 682 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: needing chapsticks for fifteen minutes. It has nothing to do 683 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 4: with that. It's all cap you know. 684 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: That Being said, That being said, you know what I mean, 685 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 3: no physiological issues at all. 686 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: It's all just emotional capping. 687 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: They don't realize that an interview that you don't get 688 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: the questions. You're having to answer questions as they come out. 689 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: So I didn't get a script. I knew what shables. 690 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: You know, if I flob the line, don't take it 691 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: as a lie or I'm capping. 692 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: Okay. 693 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: So that being said, I think it's evolving, okay, because 694 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: I think that Remember the hip hop that a lot 695 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 3: of people know about that emerged early on was rooted 696 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: in hip hop culture. 697 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: The rap was rooted in hip hop coltre yes. 698 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 3: So the rap that's rooted in hip hop culture ain't 699 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 3: going nowhere. The rap that's rooted in hip hop culture 700 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 3: is still strong and still solid, and that's why you 701 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 3: have people putting out albums and that day one audience 702 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: loving it. Rap that's not as rooted in the purity 703 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: of the culture. It can be different because it's very 704 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 3: pop now. And you know, there are just a lot 705 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 3: of different variables, you know what I mean, There's so 706 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: many variables. 707 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: Man, Something as simple as. 708 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 3: A producer not being musically trained, but sampling people who 709 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 3: are musically trained and thus keeping the integrity of a 710 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 3: sound recording and that sound recording hitting people in their 711 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 3: souls because they are musically trained people a part, are 712 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: a part of the creation, Whereas if you're just tinkering 713 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: on the laptop and you're not musically trained, it's gonna 714 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: you may catch a vibe and catch a moment, but 715 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: it's not sonically the same. I don't want to get 716 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 3: complicated with people because it'll drive them insane. Basically, what 717 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying is, don't make bullshit. 718 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 4: Don't make bullshit like let me, let me just put 719 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 4: it in language that people can understand. 720 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: Don't make bullshit, right, you know. And it's just like you. 721 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 3: Know, Nah, I ain't dying, man, Nah, you know, It's 722 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: just like it grows and it evolves. 723 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: It ain't the newest thing no more. There are subcultures. 724 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: Afrobeats has exploded, reggaetne and the Latin music has exploded. 725 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 3: There are other genres that are blowing up. So it 726 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: ain't the young upstart anymore. The genres that are younger 727 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 3: and fresher in that sense. 728 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: But nah, it ain't ain't. It's just evolving, you know. 729 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: But the thing is, it's just like, look, man, with 730 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 3: these dudes and with these guys and these girls, like 731 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: you know, if we're gonna only rap about you know, 732 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 3: money and Pete only only, yeah, get a little exhausting, right, 733 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: It's like how many times? How many different ways you're 734 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: gonna tell me about that pee baby? 735 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what I mean? Hey, Hey, by the way, 736 00:33:53,400 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: I believe you. I believe you. Yeah, no, I believe it. 737 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: I would take your well, I'll tell you work for it. 738 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: You might have to remix that shit though, and talk myself. 739 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: It's just it's just a. 740 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 3: Thought, Hey, just a thought, rap about some other than 741 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 3: the peak, Just a thought. But then that flip side 742 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: of that is if I'm gonna talk about money on 743 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: every song only and nothing. 744 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 4: Else, or running down on the odd, well, I mean, look, 745 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 4: those are all parts of life. 746 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: But it's also you know, if dude told me this 747 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 3: a long time ago, very talented super producer, he said, 748 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 3: things can be in bad taste as long as they 749 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 3: don't taste bad. What he was basically trying to say 750 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 3: is you could talk about all the things that we 751 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: just talked about, but it's the art. 752 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: Are you injecting art into it? Right? 753 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 3: Is it being is it artful storytelling? Is it artful? 754 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: Is it an artful approach? Or is it just the 755 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 3: same old sigma? But that's where you know, it's not 756 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 3: about criticizing what's going on. It's about if you have 757 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 3: a different opinion, then you need to get into booth. 758 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: Right. 759 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 3: So like my thing is is oh lll, you feel different, 760 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 3: you think it should be something well than getting the 761 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: booth and prove it. Don't tell us what to do, 762 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: don't tell us how to make the music that you 763 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 3: think you know should be leading the way, and then 764 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 3: we'll decide from there. 765 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: So I go kind of more in that space last 766 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: couple of minutes. 767 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: I want to go, ell, I don't want to What 768 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 2: made you decide to say, you know what, I've mastered 769 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,959 Speaker 2: this rap. I don't know if you used the term master, 770 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 2: but I've done a lot in this game of rap. 771 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: Let me try TV, let me try movies. How did 772 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 2: you come to that? How did you come to that conclusion? Well, 773 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: a couple of things. One, when you got more than 774 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: one talent, you use it. And then two, I just 775 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: didn't want to be a slave to music. 776 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 3: I wanted to be able to express myself in different 777 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 3: areas and have the freedom to benefit from what I do. See, 778 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 3: I'm in a position where I can do you know, 779 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 3: I can do many things, and I'm grateful for that. 780 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 3: And I have many relationships, great relationships with great people, 781 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 3: and they all give me love and I give them love. 782 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: And I'm able to work with different people, different industries, 783 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 3: and that's a lot of fun. I just didn't want 784 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 3: to limit myself. I didn't want to limit myself, you 785 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 786 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: When did you realize that you had that you could 787 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: do other things? 788 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: Because it seems to me like early on you're like, okay, yeah, 789 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: I like the fact I like boxing, but I ain't 790 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 2: really want to be no boxing. Now the NFL thing, 791 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 2: if that could have worked out, I could have been that. 792 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 2: But you liked the wrap. It's like your heart was 793 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 2: into that, and now all of a sudden you're like, well, hey, 794 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 2: TV interests me too, and so do the movies. 795 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 796 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 3: So I mean the short answer, man, I just I 797 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 3: just you know, I just decided that I was just 798 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: gonna just make it happen. 799 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm just a dreamer. Ship it's a dreamer, bro. Like 800 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm a dreamer. 801 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,959 Speaker 3: I'm one of them dudes that like if I dream 802 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: about something, if I say I'm gonna do something, I 803 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: do it, man, and I just go get it and 804 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I'm relentless, man. I'm relentless. See 805 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: that's the thing that people don't understand. I'm relentless man. 806 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 3: Like I'm the guy like if I tell you yo, 807 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 3: if I tell you yo, it's seven years, I'm gonna 808 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 3: be hiding in your bushes on May eleventh. On May eleven, 809 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: you better be ready for the bushes. And it might 810 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 3: be the bushes across the street on me. So don't 811 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So I'm like that dude, 812 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 3: right and so so it's like I just loved it. 813 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: I see a lot of I see a lot of myself, 814 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 2: and U l You strike me as a guy that 815 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: you worked extremely hard to get to a level, And 816 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 2: a lot of times people work extremely hard to get 817 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 2: to a level and they're okay with that. You worked 818 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: extremely hard to get to that level and worked even 819 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: harder to go even higher. 820 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 3: And want to just keep going and want to just 821 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 3: keep growing and keep going and keep getting it because 822 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 3: guess what, apple trees don't retire. 823 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: Bro, you're from the country. When a peace tree retires, 824 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: it's dad. We do what you know. 825 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 3: I don't feel like giving up no peaches this week, y'all. 826 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 3: Chill this season. I'm gonna take a season. 827 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you only get a couple of years not to 828 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 2: bear no fruit. They gotta chop your down. 829 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: You feel me. 830 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you see what I'm saying. You keep bearing fruit 831 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 3: in life. So whatever that fruit chooses to be. You 832 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 3: could be a mechanic, you could be a girl doing 833 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 3: hand You could be a doctor, you could be a surgeon. 834 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: You could be a lawyer. 835 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 3: You could be a damn mechanic, or you know, you 836 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 3: can work back and handling at the airport. 837 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: It don't matter. 838 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 3: Whatever it is that you do in your life. You 839 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: want to take care of your kids, you want to 840 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 3: take care of yourself. You want to put yourself through class, 841 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 3: you want to take an online class. Whatever it is, 842 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 3: you bear fruit in life. You know what I'm saying. 843 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: You maximize your personal potential. You here doing this a 844 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 3: lot of big hall of you know, guys like you, 845 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 3: high level athletes, they just let it go. You ain't 846 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 3: let it go. Why you ain't let it go because 847 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 3: you want it more? How much is enough? 848 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: More? 849 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 3: It's not about so it's like we're in this world 850 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 3: of maximum that potential. Right, I'm not here to pretend 851 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 3: to like not to be too cool to have goals. 852 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: I ain't got time for that shit going at all. 853 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you out of here on this. 854 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 2: I think you've accomplished so much in the music industry, 855 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: film industry, television. 856 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: You're an entrepreneur. Hell, I be honest with you. 857 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 2: I think the most impressive thing you've been the same 858 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 2: woman for damn there forty years. Yeah, I know my 859 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: audience want to know how when the success that you've 860 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: enjoyed for forty years and a lot of times, when 861 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,919 Speaker 2: one individual wants to be successful, the other individual must 862 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: be willing to sacrifice maybe their goals and what to 863 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 2: stand behind that person and push them forward. Well, look what. 864 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 3: I do is this, man, If there are times when 865 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 3: I need to go in my room and close the 866 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 3: door and relax and take a break, I know when 867 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 3: to take a break. 868 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: Okay, all right? 869 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 3: That being said, when it comes to helping somebody pursue 870 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 3: their dreams, helping them become whatever it is they need 871 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 3: to want to become, helping them be the businesswoman or 872 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 3: career that have the career they want to have, a 873 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 3: willing to help and encourage that. 874 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: And that not only. 875 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 3: Goes for some own it also goes for my daughters, 876 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 3: my son and all of them. So it's a matter 877 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 3: of being helpful when I need to be and taking 878 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 3: space for me when I need to right, you know 879 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I'm not above taking some space. 880 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 3: I'm telling you I'm not goding. Okay, I'll take some space. 881 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 3: That being said, I'm gonna be there. I'm a help 882 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do everything I can to encourage you to 883 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 3: go to the next level in your life. And I'm 884 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 3: gonna be supportive all along the way because I want 885 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 3: you to be successful and independent and able to take 886 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 3: your life to the next level. 887 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: And that's what I do. 888 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 2: How did you know she was the one l because 889 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 2: you knew what you wanted to become, You saw you 890 00:40:59,160 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 2: saw the future. 891 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. 892 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 3: No, you don't know. There is no answer. So people 893 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: in live with Oh yeah. 894 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 2: I. 895 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 3: Thirst bucking ass doing I knew she was the one dog. 896 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 4: Yo, you know what man, I like that skirt that 897 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 4: ship out these dudes. 898 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: You don't know. 899 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 3: I listen, you know, some things the best just you know, 900 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 3: let them be, Let time answer them questions. 901 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 902 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 3: I just put it like this man in life, Man, 903 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 3: we got to maximize our potential. We gotta be you know, 904 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 3: you want to be the best human being you could be. 905 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 3: You gotta have faith in God, faith in yourself, and 906 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 3: you gotta you know, you also got to allow some 907 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 3: things to happen in your life. 908 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: It's not only about hard work. 909 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 3: It's about actually tuning into the frequency that's gonna allow 910 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 3: some good things to happen to you. And it's also 911 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 3: wanting the best and wanting to see other people succeed. 912 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 913 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 3: Like, it's just like when you call me, when you 914 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 3: call me the first time about this podcast, it was 915 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 3: just an idea. This is before all of the big interviews, 916 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 3: and it blew up and all that I had already said. 917 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 1: Yes, so you got people watching this. Oh I don't 918 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: want to get on shining nowaday hot. 919 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 4: This is with three years in the may see. But 920 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 4: that's you said it. But I'm just saying you know 921 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 4: what I mean. So it's like letting. You gotta let 922 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 4: life happen. 923 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 3: You gotta let life happen, man, and if you tuned 924 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 3: into the right frequency, good things to happen. And so 925 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 3: you ain't gotta be like I don't try to be perfect. 926 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I don't claim to be perfect. 927 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm not that guy. I 928 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 3: also don't claim to be like you know, off my rocker. 929 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not gonna ruin my life just to 930 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 3: be successful. It's just like, because that's not success, right, 931 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna be publicly I'm not gonna publicly 932 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 3: rum personally ruin my life to have public success, you 933 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 934 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: You just kind of live and that's what I do, 935 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 936 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 3: And then take care of them kids, make sure they 937 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 3: can take care of themselves, and then just get a 938 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 3: people love. 939 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: That's it. How do you? 940 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 2: What I struggle with the ell is that tough men 941 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: create easy times. Easy times create weak kids. 942 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you? 943 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 2: How did you balance you being who you are but also, 944 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 2: like you said, trying to raise kids to realize that 945 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 2: you know, just because you're my child. 946 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean. 947 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 2: It's gonna be as perfect or and it's not never 948 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 2: was perfect it. 949 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. How did you do that? 950 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean? The real thing is like, don't ask me 951 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,439 Speaker 1: for nothing that ain't attached to a dream. Oh wow, 952 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 953 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 3: I'm not here to be your personal you know, concierge services, 954 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 3: your video games is all. 955 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: You know, that ain't my job? 956 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 4: Right? 957 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 3: Like, you know, my kids growing up, they ain't even 958 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 3: have TVs in their rooms. I wouldn't let them. Why 959 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 3: because I wanted them to use their imaginations, because that's 960 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 3: the where you get the preview of life's coming to attractions. 961 00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: Right. 962 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 3: Their imaginations were good, were good, you know what I'm saying. 963 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 3: That's what we That's right. So they have TVs in 964 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 3: their room and then it's like, okay, custodial account yea, 965 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do all that. 966 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna hook it up. But what's the dream? 967 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: What's the goal. 968 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 3: I'm not heated by you a bunch of shoes. I'm 969 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 3: not tricking on my kids. I didn't grow up tricking 970 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 3: on them, you know. And also encouraging them to be 971 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 3: creative and what do I mean by creativity. I'm not 972 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 3: talking about just the arts. I'm talking about in life, 973 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like that's a real important factor. Yeah, 974 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because if they don't have 975 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 3: that inner desire to create, you have rich bumps, you 976 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 977 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: Because it's easy to like, Listen, man, you know, money 978 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: doesn't make you more of a man. 979 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 3: Like you can have all the money in the world, 980 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 3: be goofy as hell, right, and you just be at 981 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 3: restaurants eating with people and eating with you know, you 982 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 3: be eating with a girl and she's just there because 983 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 3: she like the scenery and shit, you know what I mean. 984 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: Like, you could be goofy and rich easy, you know 985 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. 986 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 3: So you can also be a kid can be from 987 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 3: a wealthy background and be a bum because their mentality, right, 988 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 3: they got a bum mentality. 989 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: My kids don't have that. My kids have a wealthy mentality. 990 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 3: Their spirits are rich, right because I you know, when 991 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 3: I was when they was eight nine years old, I 992 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 3: was taking them down to the stock exchange, going around 993 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 3: the back showing them, oh yo, all the meat trains 994 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 3: of dollars go through here, just so they could see 995 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,720 Speaker 3: what was going on, you know what I mean, teaching 996 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 3: them about being entrepreneurial, teaching them about spirits and now 997 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 3: you know, you know the spirit and now you know 998 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 3: one has her denim line, and another works with me 999 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 3: at Rock the Bells and my company, and another one 1000 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,240 Speaker 3: has her skin line, and their mother has their jewelry line. 1001 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: Right, you know, like all of them are working and 1002 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 1: doing different things. You let them have their dream, didn't you? 1003 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 2: Because people ask me about my kid this when your 1004 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 2: son didn't play football, I said, that was my dream, 1005 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 2: that wasn't his. I want them to live their life, yeah, 1006 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 2: because I got an opportunity to live mine. Yeah, that's 1007 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 2: why I didn't name my son's junior, you know. And 1008 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 2: I'm a third by the way, so he would have 1009 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 2: a fourth. He would have been a fourth, and then 1010 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 2: you could have a fifth, I know, but he stopped 1011 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 2: it here. 1012 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1013 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 3: I want them because that's you know, that's all order, like, 1014 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 3: you know, I want them to be as old domain. 1015 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: You know. 1016 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 3: I'm so I'm the third, you know, James Smith like 1017 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 3: like probably the fourteen thousand. 1018 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: But that's that's a whole number show. 1019 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was the third so it's like, but yeah, 1020 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 3: that's the thing, man, just teaching them to dream and 1021 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 3: not spoiling them. Like, you know, like I'm not with 1022 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 3: that man, Like I'm you know, like people like I'm 1023 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 3: a little maintenance man. High expectations Shannon, Wow, you know 1024 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 3: like that low maintenance, high expectation, no question. You know, 1025 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 3: I don't I don't need to require a lot of 1026 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 3: pampering and creaming and all that bullshit. But I want 1027 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 3: the best in the world. I want to I need 1028 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 3: luxury around me. I want to feel, but with an. 1029 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: Asterisk of not all that extra that comes along with it. 1030 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1031 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 3: Man, it's Corny's you're boring or you're leading with your wallet. 1032 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 3: You know, you're trying to, you know, tell everybody you 1033 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 3: got money. So that's why they should like you. It's like, 1034 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 3: come on, man, like, who are you inside? 1035 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: Bro? 1036 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 3: You know when I'm in the gym and we're sitting 1037 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 3: there on the bench and were talking or we you know, 1038 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 3: we're doing some curve and it ain't about your bank account, right, 1039 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 3: you know, if we just have a conversation, can we 1040 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 3: just have a conversation, bro, Like, you know, I know 1041 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 3: you got to contract big dog. 1042 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: Congratulations Doe. Congratulations, Doc, You know what I mean. But 1043 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: so that's kind of like how I live my life. 1044 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 3: And when I look at all this, when I look 1045 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 3: at my kids, when I look at human beings, when 1046 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 3: I look at people, I come from that space. 1047 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: What up? You know what I'm saying? Like, nothing changed, 1048 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: like you. 1049 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 3: Know, except yes, I've evolved, but I haven't changed in 1050 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 3: terms of my view of human beings. 1051 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 1: I still love people, you know what I mean. The One, 1052 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: The Only The album is the album. 1053 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 3: Out the album September six September sixth, The Boards Frequencies 1054 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 3: of real creative energy. 1055 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: Almost fifty years in the game, The One The Only, 1056 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 1: LLL cool. 1057 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 6: J Peace, Ah, love It bro awful all my life, 1058 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 6: grinding all my life, Sacrifice, Muscle Pad, the Price, want 1059 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 6: to Slice, Got the Brother Diap all my life. 1060 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,479 Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life. Yeah, all my life, 1061 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: grinding all. 1062 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 6: My life, sacrifics, tustle Plad, the Price on Wanta Slice, 1063 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 6: Got the Brother Dice Swap all my life. 1064 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life. 1065 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 4: Passssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss